May 5, 2025 • 21 mins
On this episode, Nyla sits with Jordan Adetunji and he shares the inspiration behind his latest mixtape A Jaguar’s Dream, offering insight into his creative process and the experiences shaping his journey as a rising artist. He reflects on the role of vulnerability in his music, the value of collaboration, and the lessons he’s learned navigating the industry. The conversation also includes lighthearted moments, with rapid-fire questions that give listeners a deeper look into Jordan’s personality and evolving perspective on fame. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to we need to talk with production of the
Black Effect Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And you're mosday.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You know I'm trying to get damn with you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We'll get it at your boys know what's up now?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And we need to do talk. Your girl went along
and you're not. You need to talk my girl?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What's we need a time?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's joining out of ten my new mixtape a Jackgus
Dream out Now.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What's up now that we need to talk?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Nolis I'm on here with another episode that we need
to talk. And today I have a very special guest
in the building. We have a Jordan at Tunji here.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, how are you good? Are you?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I am well man? New project out? How does it
feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's excited to finally get it out like and give
like sounds I've been working on for a bit of
time to finally get them out there to the public.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, I do like all the variations and sounds that
we give and I love the fact that it's all up.
I feel like right now, like climate wise, we get
so much mellow music that it's like refreshing to cure
your sound. Thank you, but talk to me about just
the production process, what was the inspiration, direction, and like
meaning behind it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
For me, it was just I was always focused on
the melody and like the sound. You can say, I
always say this, and it's like kind of giving people
a feeling and a vibe or a mood to everything
from the videos to the sound in general, and just
to like kind of the feel of what I'm saying.
A lot of the time, I wanted everything to be
a mood and feel part of a world, like you're
(01:38):
entering my world, like comparing things to a video game,
so like everything is in my world, and I wanted
people to dive into my world and see what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And it was very like I had a lot of black.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Imagery, like very about very like strong black imagery that
was very part of it. And it talks about like love,
lust and like all those things all in one and
just like the situations that I'm in or or want
to be in or have been in. Yeah, that's not
an album, come on, Yeah, everyone fixes an album when
(02:09):
I make an album, then double oh.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is like yeah, it's just it's just the stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So that's why is album giving like something more cohesive?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it will make more sense. Yeah, when it's an.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Album, because this did try a lot of It has.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Loads of different sounds too. Yeah, that's on purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ah, it's a flavor of different sounds, because if I
just went straight in like for an album, I think
that doesn't make sense. People are only getting introduced to me.
I've been doing music for a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But for some people, you're new artists.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm a new artist to them. They're like, Oh, kay, Laney,
I'm gonna come on. I know how this works. I've
been in the game for a long time. I've seen
this happen so many times. I'm used to this.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, now that actually makes a lot of sense. Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Like the comments that people are going to that were saying,
I knew they're going to say it before the said like,
oh it's not sexy drill all the all the songs.
I thought it was going to be sixty drill. And
then I know when people are going to be like, oh,
this sounds like Alani, I'm not stupid.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm very aware.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Damn well, I'm looking forward to that album. Then Okay,
this is good. That's why it's like, it's really refreshing
energy wise.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I appreciate that because you talked about a lot and
shared a lot, I can appreciate the vulnerability. But why
a Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Dream a Jaguars dream?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Reason why is because a jaguar mus through different spaces
and conquers those spaces it steps into. So I felt
that was a fitting name for the mixtape because, like
a lot of the stuff that I've done, especially in
my career, I have been doing music for a long time.
Like people can go back and they can see I've
been doing this for a long time, and every space
that I've stepped in, on every sound I've stepped into,
I've conquered it in some way. So I feel like
(03:46):
that fits me, and that fits the current stage that
I'm map before I get to, like the album stage.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I love that. Okay, Kalani was my introduction to you,
So let me just pull back these layers a little
bit more. How long have you been doing music?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We do music for like over ten years. I played instruments.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I played like the trumpet and stuff like that, and
I was doing that for years. I was uploading every
day or different platforms like all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Some would go viral and some wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So it's just like I was just constantly going and
like doing the same things and like changing my things
and changing my sound a little bit and just adapting
and having fun making music and posting it, you know
what I mean. So I was doing that a lot
of the time, and yoh, I got here.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Ten years is a long time. And within the ten years,
especially in like the hip hop space, sounds have came
and went. And I guess, were you always doing this
style sonically or like did you ever have like a
boombab era did you have a different name at any point?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I was doing a lot of like I was doing
alternative music. So I was very into like alternative music,
like kind of like soft rock and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I was always into that and I still am into that.
Like you kind of kind of hind like the influences
and a lot of the artists I was influences, like
from twenty sixteen. That's when I was in school, so
like twenty sixteen twenty fifteen is the kind of stuff
I was like really developed my listening taste, so I
was listened to like the Weekend and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Okay, so you've always been an all black type
of guy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, this isn't branding, this is really me. Okay, I
can respect it. What was the moment where you were like,
let me take music seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
At the moment when I was like, I'm going to
take it seriously was when I did like this this
audition thing when I was mad young, but it was
like it was so bad, but I was like, I
think it just inspired me because I felt the love
of being on stage and like doing something that I wrote.
I felt like it felt amazing and like just the
feeling of it, and I felt like for me, music
(05:41):
was always a thing to like express myself when I
felt weird. So like in school, I always felt like
I was kind of the odd one. So I would
always make music to like feel like that was my
get back, you know what I mean. Badcorny, but like, yeah,
that was my get back at that time. So I've
continued to develop that and then the love changed into
that things.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
By the way, not mad corny, because it really worked
out for you, you know, like, yeah, there's actual corny
things going on here. There's nothing corny about expressing yourself
and then getting paid to express yourself.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Exactly. That's a win.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's a win, exactly. I love it. Okay, obviously we're
going to start the project off with Kilanie. Side note though,
if you ever had to do another song about a
person and they hop on the remix, who else would
you do?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Cocoa gens m?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That would be tough.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is this is this like a seed that's already planted
or are we planting the seed today?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Is I'm yo, that's the first I'd write a song about.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, Yeah, I would love that. What inspired you about Kilanie?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Her? Like her braveness. That's why I always say the
confidence thing is like you can see that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like that, like even like videos you always see
the edits of Kilane on stage and stuff like, that's
like a radiant confidence, Like it's like it's amazing to see.
So I felt like she was she fitted the picture
for what I was talking about. Yeah, I felt like
she's the best person for it. And yeah I did it.
I was I was brave and it worked. So yeah, yeah,
I had to take my shop.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What or where were you when Kalani hopped on the remix?
Did you know that this was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Nah? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So basically she hit me up on like TikTok and
was like, well, where's my open verse. I was like, nah,
it's crazy because I always wanted to ask, but I
was like a bit shy at the time. And yeah,
and then she sent me. I sent well, basically I
was in the club and she wanted me to send
her like an open verse. I was like, oh damn,
I didn't have the file. But then I looked through
the files and I managed to find one because when
I posted on TikTok, I hadn't finished the song. I
(07:43):
just had the hook. So then I was able to
send her out. I remember, and I was like yes,
So I had to go outside the club sender. My
internet was going slow, but it's like yeah, Luckily I
got it to her and she did like two verses
and they were both fire.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So ten out of ten. Man, such a w Let's
talk about too Many Women's featuring Kwan. Have you ever
been in a situation where there is too too many?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's never too many women, there's never too many.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I was really hoping he was going to do a
different direction with this answer.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All right, go ahead, too many women? We love too
many women?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh, God, and how do you handle that? Maybe thinking
they could be future y'all can't keep up?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh yo, bring the vibes.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Bring the vibes. Everyone comes with vibe out. That's all
you do it. I don't like too many men.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
In my space, fair understand I honestly.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Men smiling in my space. I'm not really on that understood.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, So you've never been in a situation where too
many was a problem.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Nah, it's never a problem.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're obviously just talking about partying.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Though, I'm just saying in general, Nah, this is too much.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wait wait a minute, what's your background?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I'm Nigerian?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh okay, that's why.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Why?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah? That explains It.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Explains everything, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right? Oh, break the system. I love the message
behind this. What's one rule in the industry that you
feel like needs to be broken?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That you have to follow certain rules to be successful?
There's no rule book to it. It's like expression is
the thing that I think gets people the furthest and
just being themselves. And people are people and we relate
to whatever we see that feels relatable to us.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So just be yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, that's real. What was your inspiration behind the creation
of that record. Was it like something you saw? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
A lot of it was like just vibes, is like
the vibe of it. And that's what I do with
the songs And that's why a lot of them were
very short at that time, because I felt like I
was capturing a moment and once the moment felt it
was dragged on for me. Because some people like to
do that and like to extend the moment, and that's
very cool. I find that creatively cool. But I felt
like I like to capture the essence of like how
I'm feeling in that moment, and if I thought it's
(09:58):
a short vibe, short kind of feeling, I felt stop it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
M M.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So when you say vibe and you feel like the
vibe is dragging? What like the fine vibe? Are you
saying like when you get in the booth and you
lay your ability and whenever that cuts off, it cuts off?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, that's how I take. That's how I take a
lot of music.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I felt like I like to capture something really quickly
and then you're going.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
To replay it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Were there any songs on this project where you like
extended the vibe or you stayed.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
A little three or five because I felt like there
was more to say and more more of a vibe
to capturing that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was a big moment for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So okay, let's talk about three or five Miami. Yeah,
inspired by real life.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, But the thing is, I actually wrote it before
I went to Miami because I wanted to go to
Miami so bad. That's the reason I wrote it. And
it's like kind of like a manifestation of what I
would see when I get there. That's that's why I
wrote that song. And then when I got there, that's
exactly what like what I was writing about.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
M thang manifestation is really a thing between Snoop Dogg
three or five. What city has had you acting out
of character the most? It is three o five so far?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So far?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, let's talk about bitter. Have you ever been bitter
after a breakup?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All the time, all the time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh man, I could appreciate the vulnerability in that record
because I feel like a lot of guys wouldn't even
admit to having those feelings. Has anybody hit you like,
is this about me?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Can be? Yeah? I get that sometimes. Well I'll just
say it's about if.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
She fits Like now, all the time. What's your sign?
Oh yeah, you mean that? Ye mean that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, that's why. That's why right, Like that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That explains it. No, I love it. I'm just like, wow,
dirty Diana. What was the wildest encounter that you've had
with dangerous energy?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
A low wild And it depends in what way you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Take me where we're at right now.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'll put myself in some some doudgy situations. I've had
some people tell me like they want to. I always
say this one. This one's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I've ever heard. Like, someone told me they wanted to
put like my blood in the necklace and stuff like that.
I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And that's a bit weird in that in what setting
were they in?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just normal setting? They just told me that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
In just regular conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, because it's just like, let's like me, No, that's
that's weird, that's smad.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That is witchcraft exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, Okay, this is why too many. If you just
have one, you don't got to worry about that your
luck's being hemmed up somewhere. And then let's talk about bedroom. Yeah,
what is the song that instantly sets the mood for you?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Sets the mood for me. It's Party next Door Break
from Toronto. Yeah, yeah, yeah that song.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I gotta read down
love that. That's a sleeper.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, I love that song so much.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What was your inspiration when creating Bedroom?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was just kind of a vibe that I thought, like,
I really wanted to make like an R and R
and B R and B song and like I'm listening
to people like around me that inspire me and stuff
like that. I felt like, oh, I need to I
want to make a song similar to this or similar
to that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So yeah, I had loose references for.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That, well, attractive, be real. What is the first thing
that draws you to someone?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Energy, energy, and looks as well, like, let's not lie,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Come on, let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's not lie.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm not going to give like one of those answers
or it's just like I don't care about Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know, you definitely get pisces when it comes to
how you express yourself musically and even in conversation. But
there's something else in there, because man.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You are just real. Man, I can't lie. I can't
do these like political answers and the correct.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Answers, you know what, I could appreciate it. I'm entertained.
And then options with little baby. Oh you already said
that you've never had There's never been a problem with
happened too many problem one situation has never gone wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
No yet.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, I don't know if you've seen online the whole
discourse about UK influencing America to wear Nike tech.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yo, listen, yeah, I know, I don't. I think New
York mins have been wearing to Nike text for a
long time.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I can't lie.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've been seeing New York man's work to Nike text
years ago, Okay, I do. And even Chicago mans. I've
seen that from Chicago Joel Days, they will wear Nike text. Yes,
but that's only because I'm from young. I've been tapped
into like American rap videos and like Chicago and everything.
I was watching them when I was mad young. So
that's why I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, See, I thought we was going to have smoke,
but you already.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I heard it. But recently, I can't lie. Es Centralcy
has like popularized it more. Let's you can't deny that
he definitely has. He's made it like more popularized.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Maybe more popular in other places.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Mmm, No, I think I think he has. I think
he's made it cool, a little bit cool. He's bought
it black a little bit he has, but color deny that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I feel like he's expanded the fashion within his circle,
like within his realm. But if Tim's is already cooking
out here, like we're already wearing TIMS, just because somebody
else from another place is wearing TIMS doesn't make us
want to wear Tim's more. We already wearing TEMs.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No, but I feel like he has. He's definitely made
more people like wear it. Those people always wearing it,
but he's made more people wear it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, you know, I a'm at at it. Shout out
to Central City. I love everything that he's doing. All
I'm saying is if I'm already doing something, somebody bigger
doing it doesn't make me like what I'm already doing.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Like I love DJ and I love what Marshmallows doing.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah I don't. Marshmallows doesn't gonna make you. It's true.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's all I'm saying. But okay, let's get into this game.
It's called Questions that need answers. All you have to
do is fill in the blank. Okay, all right, the
older I get, the less I sleep.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Mmm.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Okay, oh yeah, you got like going on. You would
never believe me if I told you I used to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Play a game called Conquers. You don't even know where
that is?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think I do.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
How play it?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's on online?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, okay, you never know what that is?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's like a string and a conquer is like a
thing that fools from the trees. You don't even have
trees out here, man, you know what it is. You
guys even have trees. No air, there's no air in here.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Why you could always be trying to pack up?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You guys have no trees.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's no there's no fresh air out here.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Maybe maybe New York, maybe I can give you that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You guys are suffering, you know, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You can tell me.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't bring oxygen.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, yes, I know that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So what we're breathing out here, there's some trees. Central Park,
that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Your park is providing the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So you're going to Central Park every day, and that's
gonna sew everyone out.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Hey, man, don't be coming from you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm just saying, just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, that's funny. He's like y'all is suffering. Yeah, I know,
I know it's all bad though.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, she's so good for you. That s part nature.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm a nature lover. There's no hate over here for
me about that. Jay Z is.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Hm. Jay Z is a great lyricist.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, okay, okay, what happens to you? Don't do pr answers?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Did I lie?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, you didn't lie, but your first reaction seemed like
the reaction I wanted to hear.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He's a great lyricist.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay. The craziest thing that has happened to me on
tour had to.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Be when on Eddie fel on stage, but I didn't so.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That is terrible.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, no is there. So I'm sure this is nearest
to people.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Lord have mercy. Ten years from now, I want my legacy.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
To be what a great piece of art, the whole
catalog everything.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The hardest lesson I learned about fame.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Is mm hmm. The realest people are the people we
hate the most sometimes mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because people don't like reflection of reality and they look
at other people as like as almost inhuman.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That was a bar.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Wow, it's the truth.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Outside from making music, my favorite.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Hobby is outside of making gaming.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Mm hmm yeah. Wait, what's the name of the game again?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Which one with the tree? Conkers?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Honkers?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Look it up on the internet.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Do people still play this?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
M maybe in the UK? You look it off and
you be so so confused, you don't even know what
it is. What is that?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Is it two player?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah? It's two player. You have to put on it
like a piece of string.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It sounds like a muppet puppet type of situation.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
See that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
All right, all right, I'm gonna looking up Blank. Is
one movie I can watch with the sound off?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh? Um, get Richard? I tried?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah? I love that movie. It's fire Wow?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, okay, Jaguars Dream is blank?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
To make my mark.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What does that look like for you?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It looks like people that kind of it at all?
I'm top ten now? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
With my first rap check, I.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What's a rap check again?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Or just like with your first big check?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh, with my first big check, I I think I
bought ricohen Cheese.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I think that's the last thing I did. It wasn't
even that much, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, it's not that much once you get the big
rap check. But before that, it's given. Let me set
my ass down and pay rent Riccohon's rent. They spoke
start with a R.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
My favorite album of all time is Oh.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
My favorite is Invincible by Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, I won't feel like I made it as an
artist until I've worked with.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'll be honest, I don't care, really don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I only work with people out in my final Yeah,
I'm already dying to walk time.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
If anyone died, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Care about understood. Okay, Well, Jordan, thank you for pulling
up on me.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Shout out to your Graham, and let everybody know where
they can follow you if they don't already.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Jordan out of Tenji everywhere, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, all those thanks.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
If they now already tapped in. Until next time, guys
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
And you're mosday.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You know I'm trying to get damn with you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We'll get it at your boys know what's up now?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And we need to do talk. Your girl went along
and you're not. You need to talk my girl?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What's we need a time?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's joining out of ten my new mixtape a Jackgus
Dream out Now.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What's up now that we need to talk?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Nolis I'm on here with another episode that we need
to talk. And today I have a very special guest
in the building. We have a Jordan at Tunji here.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, how are you good? Are you?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I am well man? New project out? How does it
feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's excited to finally get it out like and give
like sounds I've been working on for a bit of
time to finally get them out there to the public.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, I do like all the variations and sounds that
we give and I love the fact that it's all up.
I feel like right now, like climate wise, we get
so much mellow music that it's like refreshing to cure
your sound. Thank you, but talk to me about just
the production process, what was the inspiration, direction, and like
meaning behind it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
For me, it was just I was always focused on
the melody and like the sound. You can say, I
always say this, and it's like kind of giving people
a feeling and a vibe or a mood to everything
from the videos to the sound in general, and just
to like kind of the feel of what I'm saying.
A lot of the time, I wanted everything to be
a mood and feel part of a world, like you're
(01:38):
entering my world, like comparing things to a video game,
so like everything is in my world, and I wanted
people to dive into my world and see what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And it was very like I had a lot of black.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Imagery, like very about very like strong black imagery that
was very part of it. And it talks about like love,
lust and like all those things all in one and
just like the situations that I'm in or or want
to be in or have been in. Yeah, that's not
an album, come on, Yeah, everyone fixes an album when
(02:09):
I make an album, then double oh.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is like yeah, it's just it's just the stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So that's why is album giving like something more cohesive?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it will make more sense. Yeah, when it's an.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Album, because this did try a lot of It has.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Loads of different sounds too. Yeah, that's on purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ah, it's a flavor of different sounds, because if I
just went straight in like for an album, I think
that doesn't make sense. People are only getting introduced to me.
I've been doing music for a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But for some people, you're new artists.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm a new artist to them. They're like, Oh, kay, Laney,
I'm gonna come on. I know how this works. I've
been in the game for a long time. I've seen
this happen so many times. I'm used to this.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, now that actually makes a lot of sense. Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Like the comments that people are going to that were saying,
I knew they're going to say it before the said like,
oh it's not sexy drill all the all the songs.
I thought it was going to be sixty drill. And
then I know when people are going to be like, oh,
this sounds like Alani, I'm not stupid.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm very aware.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Damn well, I'm looking forward to that album. Then Okay,
this is good. That's why it's like, it's really refreshing
energy wise.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I appreciate that because you talked about a lot and
shared a lot, I can appreciate the vulnerability. But why
a Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Dream a Jaguars dream?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Reason why is because a jaguar mus through different spaces
and conquers those spaces it steps into. So I felt
that was a fitting name for the mixtape because, like
a lot of the stuff that I've done, especially in
my career, I have been doing music for a long time.
Like people can go back and they can see I've
been doing this for a long time, and every space
that I've stepped in, on every sound I've stepped into,
I've conquered it in some way. So I feel like
(03:46):
that fits me, and that fits the current stage that
I'm map before I get to, like the album stage.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I love that. Okay, Kalani was my introduction to you,
So let me just pull back these layers a little
bit more. How long have you been doing music?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We do music for like over ten years. I played instruments.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I played like the trumpet and stuff like that, and
I was doing that for years. I was uploading every
day or different platforms like all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Some would go viral and some wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So it's just like I was just constantly going and
like doing the same things and like changing my things
and changing my sound a little bit and just adapting
and having fun making music and posting it, you know
what I mean. So I was doing that a lot
of the time, and yoh, I got here.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Ten years is a long time. And within the ten years,
especially in like the hip hop space, sounds have came
and went. And I guess, were you always doing this
style sonically or like did you ever have like a
boombab era did you have a different name at any point?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I was doing a lot of like I was doing
alternative music. So I was very into like alternative music,
like kind of like soft rock and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I was always into that and I still am into that.
Like you kind of kind of hind like the influences
and a lot of the artists I was influences, like
from twenty sixteen. That's when I was in school, so
like twenty sixteen twenty fifteen is the kind of stuff
I was like really developed my listening taste, so I
was listened to like the Weekend and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Okay, so you've always been an all black type
of guy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, this isn't branding, this is really me. Okay, I
can respect it. What was the moment where you were like,
let me take music seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
At the moment when I was like, I'm going to
take it seriously was when I did like this this
audition thing when I was mad young, but it was
like it was so bad, but I was like, I
think it just inspired me because I felt the love
of being on stage and like doing something that I wrote.
I felt like it felt amazing and like just the
feeling of it, and I felt like for me, music
(05:41):
was always a thing to like express myself when I
felt weird. So like in school, I always felt like
I was kind of the odd one. So I would
always make music to like feel like that was my
get back, you know what I mean. Badcorny, but like, yeah,
that was my get back at that time. So I've
continued to develop that and then the love changed into
that things.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
By the way, not mad corny, because it really worked
out for you, you know, like, yeah, there's actual corny
things going on here. There's nothing corny about expressing yourself
and then getting paid to express yourself.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Exactly. That's a win.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's a win, exactly. I love it. Okay, obviously we're
going to start the project off with Kilanie. Side note though,
if you ever had to do another song about a
person and they hop on the remix, who else would
you do?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Cocoa gens m?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That would be tough.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is this is this like a seed that's already planted
or are we planting the seed today?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Is I'm yo, that's the first I'd write a song about.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, Yeah, I would love that. What inspired you about Kilanie?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Her? Like her braveness. That's why I always say the
confidence thing is like you can see that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like that, like even like videos you always see
the edits of Kilane on stage and stuff like, that's
like a radiant confidence, Like it's like it's amazing to see.
So I felt like she was she fitted the picture
for what I was talking about. Yeah, I felt like
she's the best person for it. And yeah I did it.
I was I was brave and it worked. So yeah, yeah,
I had to take my shop.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What or where were you when Kalani hopped on the remix?
Did you know that this was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Nah? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So basically she hit me up on like TikTok and
was like, well, where's my open verse. I was like, nah,
it's crazy because I always wanted to ask, but I
was like a bit shy at the time. And yeah,
and then she sent me. I sent well, basically I
was in the club and she wanted me to send
her like an open verse. I was like, oh damn,
I didn't have the file. But then I looked through
the files and I managed to find one because when
I posted on TikTok, I hadn't finished the song. I
(07:43):
just had the hook. So then I was able to
send her out. I remember, and I was like yes,
So I had to go outside the club sender. My
internet was going slow, but it's like yeah, Luckily I
got it to her and she did like two verses
and they were both fire.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So ten out of ten. Man, such a w Let's
talk about too Many Women's featuring Kwan. Have you ever
been in a situation where there is too too many?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's never too many women, there's never too many.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I was really hoping he was going to do a
different direction with this answer.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All right, go ahead, too many women? We love too
many women?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh, God, and how do you handle that? Maybe thinking
they could be future y'all can't keep up?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh yo, bring the vibes.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Bring the vibes. Everyone comes with vibe out. That's all
you do it. I don't like too many men.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
In my space, fair understand I honestly.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Men smiling in my space. I'm not really on that understood.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, So you've never been in a situation where too
many was a problem.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Nah, it's never a problem.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're obviously just talking about partying.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Though, I'm just saying in general, Nah, this is too much.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wait wait a minute, what's your background?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I'm Nigerian?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh okay, that's why.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Why?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah? That explains It.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Explains everything, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right? Oh, break the system. I love the message
behind this. What's one rule in the industry that you
feel like needs to be broken?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That you have to follow certain rules to be successful?
There's no rule book to it. It's like expression is
the thing that I think gets people the furthest and
just being themselves. And people are people and we relate
to whatever we see that feels relatable to us.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So just be yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, that's real. What was your inspiration behind the creation
of that record. Was it like something you saw? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
A lot of it was like just vibes, is like
the vibe of it. And that's what I do with
the songs And that's why a lot of them were
very short at that time, because I felt like I
was capturing a moment and once the moment felt it
was dragged on for me. Because some people like to
do that and like to extend the moment, and that's
very cool. I find that creatively cool. But I felt
like I like to capture the essence of like how
I'm feeling in that moment, and if I thought it's
(09:58):
a short vibe, short kind of feeling, I felt stop it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
M M.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So when you say vibe and you feel like the
vibe is dragging? What like the fine vibe? Are you
saying like when you get in the booth and you
lay your ability and whenever that cuts off, it cuts off?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, that's how I take. That's how I take a
lot of music.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I felt like I like to capture something really quickly
and then you're going.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
To replay it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Were there any songs on this project where you like
extended the vibe or you stayed.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
A little three or five because I felt like there
was more to say and more more of a vibe
to capturing that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was a big moment for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So okay, let's talk about three or five Miami. Yeah,
inspired by real life.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, But the thing is, I actually wrote it before
I went to Miami because I wanted to go to
Miami so bad. That's the reason I wrote it. And
it's like kind of like a manifestation of what I
would see when I get there. That's that's why I
wrote that song. And then when I got there, that's
exactly what like what I was writing about.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
M thang manifestation is really a thing between Snoop Dogg
three or five. What city has had you acting out
of character the most? It is three o five so far?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So far?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, let's talk about bitter. Have you ever been bitter
after a breakup?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All the time, all the time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh man, I could appreciate the vulnerability in that record
because I feel like a lot of guys wouldn't even
admit to having those feelings. Has anybody hit you like,
is this about me?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Can be? Yeah? I get that sometimes. Well I'll just
say it's about if.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
She fits Like now, all the time. What's your sign?
Oh yeah, you mean that? Ye mean that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, that's why. That's why right, Like that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That explains it. No, I love it. I'm just like, wow,
dirty Diana. What was the wildest encounter that you've had
with dangerous energy?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
A low wild And it depends in what way you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Take me where we're at right now.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'll put myself in some some doudgy situations. I've had
some people tell me like they want to. I always
say this one. This one's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I've ever heard. Like, someone told me they wanted to
put like my blood in the necklace and stuff like that.
I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And that's a bit weird in that in what setting
were they in?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just normal setting? They just told me that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
In just regular conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, because it's just like, let's like me, No, that's
that's weird, that's smad.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That is witchcraft exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, Okay, this is why too many. If you just
have one, you don't got to worry about that your
luck's being hemmed up somewhere. And then let's talk about bedroom. Yeah,
what is the song that instantly sets the mood for you?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Sets the mood for me. It's Party next Door Break
from Toronto. Yeah, yeah, yeah that song.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I gotta read down
love that. That's a sleeper.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, I love that song so much.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What was your inspiration when creating Bedroom?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was just kind of a vibe that I thought, like,
I really wanted to make like an R and R
and B R and B song and like I'm listening
to people like around me that inspire me and stuff
like that. I felt like, oh, I need to I
want to make a song similar to this or similar
to that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So yeah, I had loose references for.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That, well, attractive, be real. What is the first thing
that draws you to someone?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Energy, energy, and looks as well, like, let's not lie,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Come on, let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's not lie.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm not going to give like one of those answers
or it's just like I don't care about Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know, you definitely get pisces when it comes to
how you express yourself musically and even in conversation. But
there's something else in there, because man.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You are just real. Man, I can't lie. I can't
do these like political answers and the correct.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Answers, you know what, I could appreciate it. I'm entertained.
And then options with little baby. Oh you already said
that you've never had There's never been a problem with
happened too many problem one situation has never gone wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
No yet.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, I don't know if you've seen online the whole
discourse about UK influencing America to wear Nike tech.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yo, listen, yeah, I know, I don't. I think New
York mins have been wearing to Nike text for a
long time.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I can't lie.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've been seeing New York man's work to Nike text
years ago, Okay, I do. And even Chicago mans. I've
seen that from Chicago Joel Days, they will wear Nike text. Yes,
but that's only because I'm from young. I've been tapped
into like American rap videos and like Chicago and everything.
I was watching them when I was mad young. So
that's why I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, See, I thought we was going to have smoke,
but you already.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I heard it. But recently, I can't lie. Es Centralcy
has like popularized it more. Let's you can't deny that
he definitely has. He's made it like more popularized.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Maybe more popular in other places.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Mmm, No, I think I think he has. I think
he's made it cool, a little bit cool. He's bought
it black a little bit he has, but color deny that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I feel like he's expanded the fashion within his circle,
like within his realm. But if Tim's is already cooking
out here, like we're already wearing TIMS, just because somebody
else from another place is wearing TIMS doesn't make us
want to wear Tim's more. We already wearing TEMs.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No, but I feel like he has. He's definitely made
more people like wear it. Those people always wearing it,
but he's made more people wear it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, you know, I a'm at at it. Shout out
to Central City. I love everything that he's doing. All
I'm saying is if I'm already doing something, somebody bigger
doing it doesn't make me like what I'm already doing.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Like I love DJ and I love what Marshmallows doing.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah I don't. Marshmallows doesn't gonna make you. It's true.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's all I'm saying. But okay, let's get into this game.
It's called Questions that need answers. All you have to
do is fill in the blank. Okay, all right, the
older I get, the less I sleep.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Mmm.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Okay, oh yeah, you got like going on. You would
never believe me if I told you I used to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Play a game called Conquers. You don't even know where
that is?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think I do.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
How play it?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's on online?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, okay, you never know what that is?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's like a string and a conquer is like a
thing that fools from the trees. You don't even have
trees out here, man, you know what it is. You
guys even have trees. No air, there's no air in here.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Why you could always be trying to pack up?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You guys have no trees.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's no there's no fresh air out here.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Maybe maybe New York, maybe I can give you that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You guys are suffering, you know, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You can tell me.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't bring oxygen.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, yes, I know that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So what we're breathing out here, there's some trees. Central Park,
that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Your park is providing the oxygen.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So you're going to Central Park every day, and that's
gonna sew everyone out.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Hey, man, don't be coming from you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm just saying, just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, that's funny. He's like y'all is suffering. Yeah, I know,
I know it's all bad though.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, she's so good for you. That s part nature.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm a nature lover. There's no hate over here for
me about that. Jay Z is.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Hm. Jay Z is a great lyricist.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, okay, okay, what happens to you? Don't do pr answers?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Did I lie?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, you didn't lie, but your first reaction seemed like
the reaction I wanted to hear.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He's a great lyricist.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay. The craziest thing that has happened to me on
tour had to.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Be when on Eddie fel on stage, but I didn't so.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That is terrible.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, no is there. So I'm sure this is nearest
to people.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Lord have mercy. Ten years from now, I want my legacy.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
To be what a great piece of art, the whole
catalog everything.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The hardest lesson I learned about fame.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Is mm hmm. The realest people are the people we
hate the most sometimes mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because people don't like reflection of reality and they look
at other people as like as almost inhuman.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That was a bar.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Wow, it's the truth.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Outside from making music, my favorite.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Hobby is outside of making gaming.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Mm hmm yeah. Wait, what's the name of the game again?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Which one with the tree? Conkers?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Honkers?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Look it up on the internet.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Do people still play this?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
M maybe in the UK? You look it off and
you be so so confused, you don't even know what
it is. What is that?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Is it two player?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah? It's two player. You have to put on it
like a piece of string.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It sounds like a muppet puppet type of situation.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
See that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
All right, all right, I'm gonna looking up Blank. Is
one movie I can watch with the sound off?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh? Um, get Richard? I tried?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah? I love that movie. It's fire Wow?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, okay, Jaguars Dream is blank?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
To make my mark.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What does that look like for you?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It looks like people that kind of it at all?
I'm top ten now? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
With my first rap check, I.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What's a rap check again?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Or just like with your first big check?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh, with my first big check, I I think I
bought ricohen Cheese.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I think that's the last thing I did. It wasn't
even that much, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, it's not that much once you get the big
rap check. But before that, it's given. Let me set
my ass down and pay rent Riccohon's rent. They spoke
start with a R.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
My favorite album of all time is Oh.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
My favorite is Invincible by Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, I won't feel like I made it as an
artist until I've worked with.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'll be honest, I don't care, really don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I only work with people out in my final Yeah,
I'm already dying to walk time.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
If anyone died, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Care about understood. Okay, Well, Jordan, thank you for pulling
up on me.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Shout out to your Graham, and let everybody know where
they can follow you if they don't already.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Jordan out of Tenji everywhere, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, all those thanks.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
If they now already tapped in. Until next time, guys
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