November 17, 2021 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
Radio Together Everything. So don't don't. Welcome to America, listeners,
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America America? Are we America customs and border Patrol? Is
that what this is for the listeners? Okay, because we're
guarding the customs to the border of knowledge. Check your
ears at the U gate. Yeah, check your ears somewhere, motherfucker,
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and your pockets of thoughts. So good at podcasting. This
is really amazing, real, Yeah, you know, life is Cody Katie.
Did you know there's an n f T band? Now? Okay?
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Sorely he can't even he can't even wait to share this.
I don't. I don't know what this story is, so happy,
So if you don't, If you spend any time on
social media, you're probably aware that like n f T
s or a thing, and for reasons that are knowable
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unto not even God. The most popular ones are a
bunch of procedurally generated, um almost identical cartoons of apes
in various clothing like it's the same basic ape image,
and some will have laser shooting out of their eyes,
and yeah, some will have party hats and some have
sold for I think the most one sold for five
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million dollars um and now it didn't it didn't for
real sell because what you do these things, well yeah, well,
I mean yeah, what you do with these things is
you own one and you either have a separate quality,
like pay someone to buy it for slightly more than
a certain amount of money and you give him a
kickback whatever. Like there's a couple of ways to do it,
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but it's just this process of people like by pulling
it like like starting with like you know, you get
up to the first ten, fifteen thousand or whatever like that,
by kind of using your own money to establish that
it has value. And because of the blockchain, the transactions
where this is you selling it to you or a
proxy over and over again, those transactions like are registered
on the blockchain, so it looks like, oh wow, people
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have just been progressively paying more for it. The values
like quadrupled in three days. I should throw down money
right now, and then suddenly no one's willing to buy
it because there's not like actual demand for this, which
is why Logan Paul paid seven thousand for an n
f T that he can't sell for like or last
I checked, he was unable to sell it and the
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one that was five hut forty million dollars. It was
found because whoever did deal wasn't being careful enough. He
like bought it as with a separate wallet and then
transferred it back to his original wallet, which people could see.
So I guess you could say the strength of the
blockchain is that people were able to find out pretty quickly. Oh,
this guy conned everybody. He's just buying his own thing
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to raise up the price. But on the other hand, um,
it doesn't seem to have stopped the irrational exuberance over
cartoon pictures of monkeys selling for millions of dollars as
part of a money laundering scheme. So now Universal Music
Group has bought up four of these like monkey pictures.
The specific thing therefrom is called the Board a Board
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a pyacht Club, which is one of the n f
T projects that like there's a little more of an
actual thing going on, and that having an n f
T like you get into this digital community and ship
like there's some perks that aren't just you own a
link to a drawing um and for whatever reason people
are Universal has decided this is a good thing to
bet on, so they bought like a handful of these
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and f T s, and then they found musicians. They
basically made the monkeys like the band, but they're also
of n FT images, out of n f T images
of monkeys, um, and now they're they're doing a musical thing.
It's probably gonna be like a shitty gorilla's rip off,
right or the monkeys, I mean the monkeys, Yeah, mash up.
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I could get behind that. I can't behind any of this.
It's stupid, it's incredibly right. Have you seen the ad
for the official n f T TV show What Shut
the funk Up? Oh? Yeah, I'm playing this. We're playing
the audio from this in the fucking episode. I'm gonna
drop it in. So this is a ship like again,
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it's another one of these things where a group of
people with some actual money. Um potentially they got rich
in en I don't know, but like they've got enough
to put together a little animation. Um, and they're advertising
a TV show made up of n f T s
that people bought and like licensed to make the show.
Because not this, Every n FC doesn't work this way.
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The n f T on its own confers the right
to nothing. But like where the link is stored um,
but the board apes in particular, when you buy one
of these, you get the ability to like sell the
rights to this procedurally generated ape image, which are deliberately
the laziest things in the world. They're not characters, they're
just like crude images in anyway, some I'm sure grifters.
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I'm certain this is going to fall apart as a grift.
But they had enough actual money or or enough people
who believed in the vision that they put together this
trailer for a cartoon TV show based off like four
licensed n f T s, like three of them are
apes and one of them is identical drawings of lions basically,
So I'm just I'm gonna play or we're gonna play
this now. I hate explaining this because it's so stupid,
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but it continues to be a fighting thing. So I'm
a good job of like not knowing enough about this
to get mad. It's it's it's infuriating. I am a
furious by it. It's not even infuriating because of like
the environmental cost. Like yes, there's a separate place in
my head that's angry about that, because like a billion
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things people do have horrible making normal movies has horrible
environmental costs, right, Like we do a lot of ship
that's bad for the environment. That's not the specific reason
that I hate n f T s. The specific reason
I hate a f is because how fucking stupid they are.
It's so stupid and boring and empty and like it
just isn't the right word. Yeah, I hate to sound
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money on it, but like your grandparents, like just not
understanding the appeal, but really, really, what's the appeal? Um? Yeah,
play this trailer. I mean the appeal is making money
for the people who get really, Yeah, let's watch let's
watch this cartoon masterpiece. One am I reading this right?
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I'm doing a video of that Monkeys going to space?
Oh my god? Whatever, whatever, it gets me paid, right,
we having me. It's the year Earth is dying. Humans
fucked up real bad, Michael Jackson bad. But there's still home.
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Where there's an ape. There's a way. Come on, that's
a dog. Yeah, it's because the dog and I'm guessing
the Red Ape family coming soon. I don't know what
I looked at. How you feeling about that, Cody? You
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look like you're about to have an aneurysm am, I
oh god, it's a combination so many things that Yeah,
like it's nothing, it's nothing. What was that? It's what
it was like, it's a bunch of the spaceship was
called the musk one. Yeah, and the pictures of them
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looking out spaceship windows and trailer the laziest animation and
it's it's not I'm not talking about like like you
watch an old cartoon like The flint Stones, and like
the animation the things that can make the characters do
is kind of primitive to today, and like there's kind
of a charm to that. This isn't charming. This looks
like something somebody put together on a laptop for because
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that's what they did. It's charming. The Flintstones is charming
because that was not lazy in any capacity. That's where
we were at. Like that was a lot of work
to make. Um, this was not. I hate that so much.
And uh, it's just what is it about? What is like?
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What is it about? What? Who is writing? There's no
hint of the plot other than the world destroyed? Yeah.
Also like where there's a what was it? Where there's
a h an ape, there's a way, yeah, something like that,
where there's not an ape, like, come on, yeah, they're
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they're they're not great writers. I mean, it's it's this
thing where they have this all consuming vision. The people
who are like because it's a it's a mix of
people in n f T s of like people who
are just laundering money, right, and and they're just like,
well this is this is a great way to launder money,
or people who are good con artists and are like, well,
I can make and a lot of people have pulled
off multimillion dollar cons by like creating a line of
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n f T s and then taking all of the money,
um and not delivering any of the promised features. Like
it happens all the time in this world. It's just
this like stupid. It's also they're so insistent the people
who are true believers, because that's most of like the marks, right,
Like the people who just want you see this as
a money making venture are using the people who think
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that this is going to be all of society as marks.
And I would feel worse for those people if this
wasn't their vision of all of society, if like they
weren't the kind of people who would look at some
ship like this and be like, oh okay, the or
or or like this is a good future where like
we randomly generate images of apes and cast them in
cartoon shows and and have that be our currency. Right,
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And it's not this on its own, because it's like, yeah,
I'm sure at some point there will be completely computer
generated plots and actors and voice actors and the whole
whole stories that human beings never had a hand in touching.
And maybe they'll just be interesting because of how ridiculous
and unhinged they are, certainly at first, But like, this
isn't fun, it isn't kitchy. It's just crap. It's just
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they've invented away to kill more trees to make crap.
It's like a first draft of a sketch that you
make when you're just out of college. Yeah, and yeah,
and and in fairness, this has seventy nine, which gives
you some idea of like number one, what a con
and f t s are like the big companies that
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are getting in on this, I think are getting fleeced
like a lot of the little people, because the numbers
that some of these are selling for have convinced people like, Okay,
this is a real thing, or at least real for
a while. But this is a small mean. This video
has seventy nine thousand views, right, and most of them
are people making fun of it. It has four hundred
and four likes and twenty nine thousand down earth four
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and four up votes in twenty nine thousand down votes,
which is an amazing ratio. That's wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah,
it's just anyway. The good news is that the new
whatever spending bill that just came out, the big, the big,
you know, Biden's very happy about it. The thing of
the jig um, it's better infrastructure. There's some ship. The
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ship I think it's in that bill. It maybe just
getting passed around the same time. But there's some restrictions
on what n f T s. They're not restrictions, there's
clarification as to how they're being treated. Because a lot
of critics of n f T have been saying, this
is just unlicensed securities trading. You're just you're just trading
securities without a license, um, and you're calling it something else.
And now the government has said, hey, yeah, you got
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to treat these like securities, which means when you sell
one to somebody, you have to have an actual person,
you have to provide a person's information to the government
as to who that sale was, which means you can't
anonymously pay people to just like bid things up as
easily because you're also paying more than thirty taxes or
I think it's about that much on like that the
biggest ones these you're paying taxes on these for every transaction,
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and they have to have the real names of real
people so that you can't The benefit of this from
a grifting standpoint was that since it stood outside of
the UH because like actual art, like real art is
used for money laundering all the fucking time. Um it's
been a huge problem, and a bunch of laws it
came in and safeguards were put in the place to
reduce the ability of art sales to work in the
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same way that I explained in f T s work.
And now the situation is that, um, like for a
while n f T s were kind of nobody was
looking at them or the government was not taking action
on anything, so you could have the same guy just
bid up as long he had other cryptot to uses
like the basis, just continually bit up the price of
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whatever n f T he had into like wow, this
is worth twenty million dollars and look at all these
people who have been Maybe it's just this one guy.
He can't do that anymore because he's paying taxes on
every one of those transactions that exists to jack up
the price of the n f T and he has
to make it public. Who like, he has to he
has to at least let the government know who's um,
who's buying it, So like, yeah, it's just this guy
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manipulating a security um anyway, so hopefully they're fucked. They've
got like a year I think before all this, all
this gets settled. But that's my n f T rant
for the day. How are you all feeling confused? But um, yeah,
it's not. You're not confused because you don't get it.
You're confused because it's just too stupid to be real. Yeah,
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that's that's that's the only your confusion comes from a
place of like, how could how could it be this dumb?
And that's exactly right. I yeah, this sp a man
on the But I've gotten more and more comfortable with
accepting that, Like over the past couple of years. It's
not just n f T s, it's lots of things
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where I'm like everything, and so you just have to, um,
get comfortable with the unknowing. Yeah, embrace the stupid. Uh.
This ties into another piece of news because last last week, Um,
Richard Kianka, better known as Low Tax, founder of the
Something Awful forums, died Um and he had he was
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not a good person. Uh was a spousal abuser on
a number of different cases, like squandered every opportunity in
piece of good fortune that came his way. But he
also invented, like the modern a huge chunk of like
digital culture that even persists in the social media era.
Like Something Awful is where memes in a lot of
cases got started. It's the first time you had like
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people on an internet community like going into the real
world to like go after the Church of scientology and
ship like it. And it's very important piece of foundational
digital culture. And Richard Kianka had a motto for the
website that he ran into the ground called the Internet
makes you Stupid, which is the the only thing he
ever really got right. Um, it's so fucking dumb. Everything
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is so goddamn stupid. And like n f t s,
they don't really like the The environmental impact is horrible.
If you view the total environmental impact of n f
t s on like a global scale, it's not problem
no one, but the sheer, the sheer scope of how
dumb in f t S are as a concept is
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offensive to the soul. Yeah, and how much dumber they'll get. Yeah,
they'll only get yeah blasting off to Mars to Muskville.
They go to Muskville by the way. Yeah, of course
they go to chains by the way. Oh good, so
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somebody knows what they're doing. That's good to hear. This
is so ridiculous, chicks, baby have you You should look
at the lazy Lions art if you really want to
get angry lions. Yeah, there's all the same. Yea procedurally
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generated crap like someone drew one monkey and then plugged
a bunch of fucking accessories into an algorithm. Excuse me,
excuse me, they're idiots, right, Like it's not just lazy art,
it's like offensively shitty. I mean, it's like want to
embrace it, like, yeah, we don't give your eyes general
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And I hate believe you said that I should look
at these you, I there's something important I haven't quite
figured out how to write about this yet and like
what what this is all kind of like swirling around
in my head for me, But like it's just I
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I thinks, as a student of history, you have to
avoid acting as if there's a privileged position within time
to stand from right in terms of like making judgments
about things and how dumb things are. And it is
true that incredibly dumb things we're have been going on
all throughout history, and that's that's made up the majority
of international relations at least, is very dumb things. But
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I'm not a historian, but I am a student. I
do study history quite a lot, and this is one
of the dumbest things I've ever heard of people doing.
Like We've done a lot of stupid stuff, but this
is so fucking dumb. Well, what it really is is
an alarming sign of our devolution, evolution whatever you want
to call it. Um culturally, I don't know if that's
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the case. I think this is the way things go,
you don't think. I think devolution again is kind of
acting from within a privileged position in time and and
taking the stance that, like something else that I experienced
some other moment in history, I think was better now
for these reasons, and so I guess kind of the
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way I prefer to look at it is not that
like this is bad because things were better before, but
like the stupidity of this, um would not have been
possible in another era, the kind of we we invented
a new kind of dumb for this. Right throughout history,
people invent new kinds of stupid, And this is like,
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this is something new being born right now. We haven't
fully seen the shape of this kind of stupid yet. Sure,
that's a better way of approaching it than just devolution,
that's the jokey thing. But you know, yeah, this is
a choice people are trying to make. Yeah, the direction
that we are going used to like people and like
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influencers and like social capital tied up to it, and like, well,
and I guess what's scary is like this might work.
It might be in terms of the metrics by which
you people govern society. Um, this might they might decide, like, Nope,
this was a great idea. Burning up huge chunks of
carbon into the atmosphere in order to make procedurally generated
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monkey pictures into lazy cartoons is the way we want
the human race to work. I mean, just a general
I know, I know what might happen, we might be
seeing this happen, but in general, it just astounds me
that a whole new industry has emerged that is very
bad for the planet, despite the conversations that we all
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have every day that we're like, yeah, let's get behind
this thing. And I know that in the scheme of things,
there's lots of stuff that are bad for the planet,
just like you laid out earlier. But a new thing
that we all like, this is so much. It's one thing.
It's one thing to give, it's one thing to kill
the world by giving human beings what we've always wanted,
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which is like a horse that can never die, um
and protects us from the rain and plays our favorite
music right like that, And that's that's dumb. That was
a bad decision, but it mad like historically you can
see like it's sathing with like air travel horrible for
the environment. It's fulfilling a dream man has had for
going back now air travel as a person to like,
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so we're doing horrible damage to the environment in order
to turn pictures of monkeys into commodities. Why terrible pictures
of monkeys alright, terrible, horrific pictures of monkeys. Um. Anyway,
that's that's all I have to say. Yeah, it was
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a lot, and I thank you. I'm sorry. Break, don't
be sorry. You just we get to take a break,
you know, we get to take a break together. Everything
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all right, We're back. And I think during the break
I came up. I came to the conclusion, like, what
is so offensive about n f t S. To me,
it's the it is the end of all pretense of
the American dream in terms in terms of like the
pretense that like in the United States, you can be
born poor and you can, through good decisions and careful work,
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become a business owner and own your own business and
make and raise your your class and your position in society,
and like anyone can do that. That's like the that's
the American myth, right um. And so past scams like
am Weigh and the like latched onto that myth by
saying like this is the way for you to make
your own business and raise to become a rich person,
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raise out of the working class, and you can do
it if you just work hard enough. And that was
a scam. The whole thing was always a scam. Like
even outside I am way. But it was a scam
with an understandable dream attached, which is like, I I
want to believe that with hard work, I can improve
my position in the world. That's an empowering thing to
believe when you come out of the beliefs that people
had before about like, yeah, your social position is born
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and you it cannot be moved. You know, you're a surf.
You'll die a surf. That's the way it works. You know,
there's there's absolutely no mobility coming out of that world.
It was like this big deal and every scam that's
hit this country since it's like latched onto parts of it.
But there was there was a core there of like
this dream of through your own effort rising ahead in
the world, as opposed to the kind of the core
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of the n f T scam isn't through your own
effort you can rise ahead in the world. It's if
you buy the right procedurally generated monkey picture, you could
become a billionaire. That's the promise of n f T
S and I. It's how to make the most amount
of money with the least amount of effort you can
get you can it's it's it's my nephew, you who's
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way too old to believe that Elon Musk is very
cool to have billions of dollars. Um, what else should
we talk about? I don't know, real quick. When you
when you, if you guys did make the mistake of
googling the lazy lions and seeing the images and the
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image search, if you scroll down, you will be treated
to actual pictures of lazy lions and it's really cute. Yeah,
now that sounds like that sounds like a good thing
to be trading around. That's just exactly I would I
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can imagine a utopian civilization in which human beings are
able to like store the emotional and mental like data
of seeing something for the first time and share that,
and then the currency in that world does become the
cutest things you've seen an animal done, because like then
everyone can relive that moment that your cat fell in
that ridiculous word whatever. That would be a much saner
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base for a system of currency. I think, um, just
shop he's fucking I'm sorry, these fucking stupid apes in
their stupid spaceship escaping Earth, which is destroyed. Why do
you think the Earth is destroyed? Stid F. I just
need to say we've we've spent so much time talking
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about a trailer that none of our listeners saw. They
just listened to us react to it's fine, radio baby, Fine,
let's let's talk about other things. Yeah, uh, Cody, you'd said, yeah, okay.
Well Alex Jones, guys, how about oh yeah he lost God?
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What is this his fourth case for his words once again?
Um yeah, it's like it's uh, it's definitely not his first,
probably not his last. Probably, Um yeah, he's found liable.
Um by default. Umi, almost doesn't happen. Like it's very difficult,
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Like very rarely does a case like this end by default.
It's like almost unheard of because it just means that
the court kept saying, okay, as a result of this case,
you are legally obligated to provide us with X. And
Alex Jones and his lawyers always said no. The the
guy they had acting as the representative of the company,
like that's an official person you have to designate in
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this kind of a case. Is like who who is
speaking for the company? The guy that they picked for
that wasn't told that was his job when he went
in to be the post. Like in the deposition, you
can hear him find out that he's representing Knowledge Fights
done some incredible coverage of this, but yeah, he's he
keeps losing cases. Um, it should put him out of business.
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Uh thinkers business. Through this, I discovered that one of
his companies it is called Free Speech Systems, which I
guess I think it's kind of Ye, it's good stuff. Um,
it's yeah, good stuff. I mean, this thing is discussing.
I mean, I knew that this has been going on,
but in this news breaking and reading through everything, I
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had forgotten just how disgusting it is. I'm just gonna
the shooting. This is from the a p. The shooting
was portrayed on Jones's Infu Infu War shows a hoax
involving actors aimed at increasing gun control. Jones has since
acknowledged the schools shooting did occur, but families of the
victims said that they have been subjected to harassment and
death threats from Jones's followers because of the hoax conspiracy
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pushed on info Wars. I just stop to think about
that for a moment, because we're talking about this and
making jokes. But what this represent these people, I mean,
the greatest tragedy and then to have years and years
and years of this fucking clown making their life a
living hell. Uh and way, there's no point here. I
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just feel like it's important to acknowledge what this is
about and what happened here. Yeah, um it's a gross
man and uh, you know, like the records that he
was supposed to release were related to whether or not
he profited from spreading about this. He wouldn't, so maybe
he did from that. And they're gonna, you know, appeal
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this and everything and push for this, and they're just
trying to say that there's no proof that we did this. Well,
you're not providing proof that you didn't. Man, Yeah you
I mean, Alex does this every time. It's like that.
It's like when you bring up things that he said, um,
in like criticizing him, he'll say, like if you play
a clip from it, he'll say, it's taken out of context.
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Like it it doesn't matter. The only the only thing
that matters from this is that fucking god willing they
will destroy the ability of Info Was to operate as
a company through the lawsuits as a result of this. Um.
That that's all I think we can really get from it. Um. Yeah,
I so this is sort of related, um because the
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same same kind of little little monster. Um. I don't
know if anyone else saw this. Uh Milo Unapolis in
a minute is uh you know he's going through his
like I'm no longer gay phase, like I'm converted and
I'm straight now, Um, a reasonable like respectable guy now. Uh.
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He is currently selling uh little Virgin Mary statues on
a church militant dot shop uh uvc type um the
church militant test its own shopping network. Oh yeah, um.
And it's him next to this like sixties seventy year
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old lady. Uh, just trying to sell these little merry statues. Um,
as if nothing else happened before this. Um, it's very
very funny. I don't know if you want to even
like what's he being? So wait, how do they describe
him on the channel, Like what is he? I haven't seen.
I don't know. I've seen selected clips, so I haven't
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seen like the introduction of this show, like Hi, I'm
this person and here's Milo. Do not google him? But
easier to uh to sell these for you. Um. It's
very it's just very entertaining to watch if you have
if you have the time, check out Milo Annapolis Christian
Church militant YouTube shopping. Look at him sitting on this
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screen next that little old that old lady. It's so
it's so weird, like to see this uh adoring virgins
adoring virtue statue fifty. What a deal? What a deal?
What a freaking deal? Right? Look at gross. It's not
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news and it's not super related, but uh they're the
same person to me. Um, and good for him. I'm
glad he's landing on his feet. Well, yeah, you know,
it's just good to see someone working, you know, by
that he's gotten got something going on, you know, he's yeah,
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he's he's all over this channel dot shop. Um, that's bleak. Yeah,
you don't want to help me determine something. Yeah, So
there was this there's this fucking video going around from
the Laura Ingram Show where it's rough. Um, it's supposed
to be like the name of the segment is Numbers
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Don't Live youre was like woke free TV, and so
I think it's about how uh woke TV is uh
not getting good ratings or some ship. Um, that's what
it's supposed to be about. This comes apparently just in
the middle of of of the segment. Um, Yeah, is
it another thing that we're gonna listen to? Yeah, we
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probably should. Yeah, yeah, I can't tell if it's a
bit or not. Um, I have opinions on this, yeah earlier. Yeah,
it's going. I just checked it, like, I just saw
it for the first time right before we started recording.
So I had and it doesn't there doesn't seem to
be Wait, is this the youth thing? Yeah? It is,
(31:36):
it is. I just can't this a bit or real. No,
it's fucking real, and it's really fucking funny. Okay, Jared, Katie,
I'm so excited for you to see this. You know,
I was watching an episode of You where measles came up.
Wait wait, wait when did I mention measles? I don't
(31:57):
know it was on you? What? What was on me?
What are you talking about? Right? What? I never had
the meas's on you? We never did. We never did
a measles in vaccine episode of my Is this a joke?
I don't know you're talking about? It was on you?
(32:17):
It was on you. I never had Raymond, I've never
had measles. What are you talking about? The stupid it
was an episode of a show Laura, what's it called you?
It's called you. I've never done a show on measles.
I just completely called you on Netflix. There's a show
(32:39):
called Lauring. I'm a Netflix. I'm moving home to Adele.
I can't explain this to you, singer. Oh wow, I
don't know. I think it's real. I think it's fucking real.
I think it's no that real. I think it's real.
I think it's real. I think they're a debate about this.
(33:03):
There's a hearty debate about this. Did she come out
and be like I was joking or something, and like
I understood the whole time because you didn't. You didn't
you just you didn't she She seemed to be getting
flustered a bit about it. It's it's it's clearly it's
obviously an Abbot and Costello bit. I made a joke
(33:26):
about that on Twitter that like, this is the Thousand
Monkeys typewriters version of of of the works of Abbot
and Costello. But that's also like the kind of harmless
old timey comedy that a bunch of right wing ghoules
would pick to replicate on their show for some baffling reason,
I would need to like sit down and look at
the cody if you seen more of the context of this. No,
(33:48):
I haven't seen that before. I would have to look
at an episode of the ingram Angle. Apparently they've done
like things like this before, not exactly the context, but
they've done bits. It's like, it's because the thing is,
if it's not planned, it's extremely funny and embarrassing. Uh.
If it is planned, it's very stupid, And if it's planned,
(34:11):
it's very stupid imporing. But I um, and what's the point,
which I guess means, well, you know what we're talking
about it, so we're talking about accomplished, right, I guess yeah.
I mean we're just here's the thing you're saying. You're
saying that it's very clearly a comedy act or it's
not funny enough to is if it's clearly a calmedy act,
(34:35):
make it clear that it's a comedy act. I don't.
I the I think what it is is more evidence
that that side of the population in this country has
gotten so we've gotten so pulled apart that it's like
I grew up watching Fox News every day and I'm like,
I don't I don't know what they're going for with
this ship. This is just this is just ridiculous. Well,
(34:57):
also like her whole show is like a bit, like
it's just it's like the entire thing is just like
they're all a bit but like they don't tend to
do this. Again, I'm not a regular watcher Laura Ingram.
I think she was a no that was gredive ancestor
and who was the big lady anchor on Fox when
I was a kid. But there's a there's like a moment, Uh,
(35:22):
we're the same guy fell out of his chair um
on the same episode. No, no, no, no no, it's from
here we Go. It's you might have remembered when they
took a they okay, it's when they took pictures of
themselves with bud light. Was during the Kavanaugh hearings and
(35:43):
they were like people, and so they got bud light
out and then they tried to take a selfie and
then he fell out of his chair and she says
they did it on purpose. Uh so, like I just
like this weird like limbo space of like they do
these things is that either don't quite work or they
do them accidentally. And then they claimed that they did
(36:05):
them on purpose. I'm excited, No, Cody, you know what
I'm really excited for when when these these beautiful, precious
moments from the ingram Angle are turned into n f
T s so that you can digitally own it? Would
that fun? You're you joke? But my god, absolutely that's
where it's head and baby if it doesn't. And now
(36:29):
one of our listeners, one of you guys, is going
to take that idea and run with it. Yeah, this
is your chance to be a millionaire. Yeah you got
like a year, right, you got this is your window. Yeah,
you got about a year. We're going to take a
quick break and then we're gonna come back and shoot
the ship somewhere together everything. Oh gosh, we sure are
(37:04):
we sure are? Welcome back to the ingram Angle. Do
a little bit an tell if there are jokes or not? Um,
Michael Flynn, that was pitched as an idea that we
talked about Bannon TV. Has anyone ever done like a
(37:27):
like a Michael Flynn Dr Quinn medicine woman mash up?
It seems that seems doable. Another idea just for the masses.
You're just being gold today, Rob, just just throwing out
money making. So yeah, Michael Flynn's in the news this week.
(37:48):
Is it good? No? Uh? For a comment that he
made during a speech to a conservative Christian audience, um
and what's it called the Reawakened America Tour in Texas.
He said, if we're going to have one nation under God,
which we must, we have to have one religion, one
(38:11):
nation under God, and one religion under God, right, all
of us working together? What the fuck is that? What
is he trying to do? What is he doing here?
He's leaning He's leaning in, leaning hard into it, right,
like this is what this is what like the Republican
Party generally wants, right like like he's like he's like
(38:32):
he's so uh deep in getting away with stuff and
just like being in the news kind of and not
really that he can just sort of say this stuff
out loud. Right, Yeah, you knows these articles like what
is this in the article James Clappers, Mike Flynn today
is not the Mike Flynn of prior to that. I know,
(38:53):
you know this, this guy has changed, you know, I
mean you gotten deep ship. Uh. He was cooperating in
the investigation with the Russian you know, collusion whatever. Oh
my god, we've been through so much. Um, you know.
(39:18):
Then he flipped and campaigned hard for you know and
Donald Trump apardon from Donald Trump, which he got. So
he's just a living example of everything, you know, Like
he keeps doing it. He's doing it because he can,
(39:38):
and he gets away with it, and there's nothing left
for him except to lean and harder now you know. Yeah,
that's the thing that happens when these people like go
go so far off the edge. Um, And it's I
don't know, there's a lot of conversation about like, I
don't know, Um, how do you how do you handle
the fact that with mass media, anyone you try to
(40:01):
like punish for doing something objectively terrible and he's done
a lot of funked up ship is UH is not
going to just like find a fan base and UH
become a millionaire talking about how we need to murder
all the non Christians? Like what do you? I don't
actually know what the solution to Mike Flynn. The problem is,
it's it's a it is a sticky wicket for society
(40:24):
to try to answer, because if you're going to have
free speech and presidents who can pardon people, and a
political system that works the way ours does. You're gonna
have Mike Flynn's and it doesn't it doesn't even matter.
He's he doesn't matter as an individual. There would be
people like him who would make the decisions he's making
because he's just making perfectly rational decisions for a guy
(40:47):
in Mike Flynn's position. Yeah, And I don't know. I
don't know what we do about this. Uh um, Well,
I don't find him on the Yeah, I mean, yeah,
he's like open invitation. Why the fun we can talk
to him about the come of elected leaders. Yeah, yeah,
(41:11):
I mean what do we do about it? Steve Bannon
was indicted this week? Yeah, he sure was. I guess
we'll see if there was. It's I don't know, he's
already out on out without bail. I mean the arraignment
comes Thursday. Yeah. I don't feel great about this. I
(41:33):
don't feel great about contempt of Congress as like a
thing we go after people for. Well, it's not going
to be much, no matter what. It's like thirty days,
it's it's it's dollars, nothing but helped him, like they're not.
It's because it's because they're not willing to go after
him for like well, you could make a pretty strong
legal case that he tried to incite a revolution, like
(41:55):
a violent overthrow of the government, which is like pretty
serious crime. You could be you can you can get
some hard time for trying to overthrow the entire government
of the United States. Um. But again it's he had
another like compromise and half measure in dealing with the coup,
which means we're going to have another fascist coup. That's
the way they work. That's what I mean. I was like,
just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean he's not
(42:17):
still working for it. Yeah, yeah, get like lets himself
get in front of the camera and pay himself as
like this sort of like murder figure for a brief
moment until he pays the fucking fine, uh and give
his little speech about the future and where we're going.
(42:39):
What's fun is that Mike Flynn has also been subpoena
He's just spending his life testifying in front of h anyway, Sorry,
just laugh. I don't know, I don't know what to do.
(43:00):
I'm I'm doing the thing that happens to me at
the end of every year, which is I've completely given
up on society and civilization, and I'm willing to walk
into the woods and hopefully by the time, yeah, by
the time we get to like Jan Feb next year,
I'll be I'll be ready to re engage with the
world in a productive manner. But I'm just I'm not
(43:20):
just at my wits end with it right now. I
am too. I think we all are. I feel well, like,
let's put this into context. I mean, none of us
have had vacations in forever years. It's been a slug
and um to Syria. That was nice. You went to Syria.
(43:41):
That was a vacation. It's part of a vacation. Yeah,
it was. It was nice. It was it was a
part of the vacation. Yeah, it was great. It was
a lot better than than working all the time. I mean,
I guess I've had a week off here there, but
not the same thing. Yeah, it's been a while. So Yeah,
(44:02):
we've been talking guys about how we can have some
fun for the rest of the year on the show,
and we've got some ideas. We're gonna have some fun. Um. Yes,
we we are going to um launch an n f
T band based off of pictures that Katie and I
have taken of Cody in moments where he trusted us. Uh,
(44:23):
it's the it's the Cody collection. There's thirty thou images, um,
and you can and if you own them, you have
the right to monetize Cody's image. Um, you could cast
him in your own n f T cartoon. Yeah, image
for every song songs coming your way. Maybe you should
make yourself an n f T and make an album
(44:44):
to go with it or something. I I will never
participate in n f T s any way, unless unless
it's very funny, right, But so maybe my my line
(45:04):
remains the same, which is that I will I will
take on any deal in exchange for a bear Cat
or equivalent armored vehicle. But in the case of n
f T s, their credit is no good and I
will need the armored vehicle provided to me in full
before I will. I will say anything nice truck count
absolutely not in the under no circumstances. No, it makes sense,
(45:28):
it makes sense. I can't believe I met someone who
bought one. Anyway. Well, I mean whatever, I'm sure it'll
be fun. Most I mean the Tesla products. They're kind
of old for electronic cars now, but like they're fun. Um,
Like I get white people like them. It's the same
thing like the Rivian though like the truck, well, no,
(45:48):
I I don't Well, I don't enjoy the design aesthetics
of the Tesla truck, but I know, like a nightmare.
I mean it like it will eat you. It's not,
it's it's not. It's not a boring design. So I
don't know people like to own weird ship. That makes
sense to me. The fact that people might want to
own a ridiculous space car that looks like the fucking
(46:11):
vehicle from Halo. Um, Like, oh yeah, I get white
people are going to buy that fucking thing. Um and whatever.
It's a thing. At least it has it crosses that
barrier actually being broken. Capable of being broken when you
punch its window, yeah, but capable but capable of moving
(46:32):
even if it's a terrible truck. A terrible truck is
better than the best drawing of a monkey like utility perspective.
No disagreement. I just don't want to date the person
driving that car. That's that's fine. Everyone has the right
to I won't date anyone who drives a Mitsubishi. You know,
we have our we have our opinions. Are lines in
the sand, our lines in the sand. That's right, that's right,
(46:56):
Tell you or die. Yeah, I really like my super u. Um,
have we done it? Have we discussed all the things? Yeah,
this is this is legally, Sophie is legal giving us
the sign off legally an episode, I will say. We
did want to briefly mention Brittany is free. That is good.
(47:18):
That is nice for conservative ship. So if you are
in a conservative ship, be a famous millionaire and maybe
you two can one day get out of it. Um.
I did see, I think yesterday being passed around these
photos of her in her car, Like, oh, look she's free.
Look she's a free woman. I'm so happy, and like,
(47:39):
maybe leave her alone. Ye made her lesson here, Maybe
leave her alone? Maybe just leave her alone. Yeah, that's
my that's a great, a great note to end on.
Yeah for today, UM, leave her the funk alone, guys,
and have a great Thanksgiving next year. We won't be
(48:00):
dropping an episode next week, but back the week after that.
It was something fun. What we're fun. We're thankful. I
would like to also extend congratulations to friend of the
Pod JP Morgan, who is suing Tesla for breach of contracts.
Relating to and they want a hundred and sixty two
(48:22):
million dollars from him immediately. And in this instance, I
I support JP Morgan because I think it would be
funny if Elon Musk paid officially became the man who
paid a hundred and sixty two million dollars to tweet.
The money is going to be in a in a
bad person's hands either way, it might as well be funny.
(48:43):
And it's funny, very funny. Yah, just just so he
can tweet. And sixty nine it's a good stuff. What
an amazing, what a what a world that we live in?
What it's silly n f t of the world. Yeah, anyway,
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Did you know there's an n f T band? Now? Okay?
(01:08):
Sorely he can't even he can't even wait to share this.
I don't. I don't know what this story is, so happy,
So if you don't, If you spend any time on
social media, you're probably aware that like n f T
s or a thing, and for reasons that are knowable
(01:30):
unto not even God. The most popular ones are a
bunch of procedurally generated, um almost identical cartoons of apes
in various clothing like it's the same basic ape image,
and some will have laser shooting out of their eyes,
and yeah, some will have party hats and some have
sold for I think the most one sold for five
(01:51):
million dollars um and now it didn't it didn't for
real sell because what you do these things, well yeah, well,
I mean yeah, what you do with these things is
you own one and you either have a separate quality,
like pay someone to buy it for slightly more than
a certain amount of money and you give him a
kickback whatever. Like there's a couple of ways to do it,
(02:13):
but it's just this process of people like by pulling
it like like starting with like you know, you get
up to the first ten, fifteen thousand or whatever like that,
by kind of using your own money to establish that
it has value. And because of the blockchain, the transactions
where this is you selling it to you or a
proxy over and over again, those transactions like are registered
on the blockchain, so it looks like, oh wow, people
(02:35):
have just been progressively paying more for it. The values
like quadrupled in three days. I should throw down money
right now, and then suddenly no one's willing to buy
it because there's not like actual demand for this, which
is why Logan Paul paid seven thousand for an n
f T that he can't sell for like or last
I checked, he was unable to sell it and the
(02:55):
one that was five hut forty million dollars. It was
found because whoever did deal wasn't being careful enough. He
like bought it as with a separate wallet and then
transferred it back to his original wallet, which people could see.
So I guess you could say the strength of the
blockchain is that people were able to find out pretty quickly. Oh,
this guy conned everybody. He's just buying his own thing
(03:17):
to raise up the price. But on the other hand, um,
it doesn't seem to have stopped the irrational exuberance over
cartoon pictures of monkeys selling for millions of dollars as
part of a money laundering scheme. So now Universal Music
Group has bought up four of these like monkey pictures.
The specific thing therefrom is called the Board a Board
(03:38):
a pyacht Club, which is one of the n f
T projects that like there's a little more of an
actual thing going on, and that having an n f
T like you get into this digital community and ship
like there's some perks that aren't just you own a
link to a drawing um and for whatever reason people
are Universal has decided this is a good thing to
bet on, so they bought like a handful of these
(04:00):
and f T s, and then they found musicians. They
basically made the monkeys like the band, but they're also
of n FT images, out of n f T images
of monkeys, um, and now they're they're doing a musical thing.
It's probably gonna be like a shitty gorilla's rip off,
right or the monkeys, I mean the monkeys, Yeah, mash up.
(04:23):
I could get behind that. I can't behind any of this.
It's stupid, it's incredibly right. Have you seen the ad
for the official n f T TV show What Shut
the funk Up? Oh? Yeah, I'm playing this. We're playing
the audio from this in the fucking episode. I'm gonna
drop it in. So this is a ship like again,
(04:44):
it's another one of these things where a group of
people with some actual money. Um potentially they got rich
in en I don't know, but like they've got enough
to put together a little animation. Um, and they're advertising
a TV show made up of n f T s
that people bought and like licensed to make the show.
Because not this, Every n FC doesn't work this way.
(05:05):
The n f T on its own confers the right
to nothing. But like where the link is stored um,
but the board apes in particular, when you buy one
of these, you get the ability to like sell the
rights to this procedurally generated ape image, which are deliberately
the laziest things in the world. They're not characters, they're
just like crude images in anyway, some I'm sure grifters.
(05:27):
I'm certain this is going to fall apart as a grift.
But they had enough actual money or or enough people
who believed in the vision that they put together this
trailer for a cartoon TV show based off like four
licensed n f T s, like three of them are
apes and one of them is identical drawings of lions basically,
So I'm just I'm gonna play or we're gonna play
this now. I hate explaining this because it's so stupid,
(05:49):
but it continues to be a fighting thing. So I'm
a good job of like not knowing enough about this
to get mad. It's it's it's infuriating. I am a
furious by it. It's not even infuriating because of like
the environmental cost. Like yes, there's a separate place in
my head that's angry about that, because like a billion
(06:11):
things people do have horrible making normal movies has horrible
environmental costs, right, Like we do a lot of ship
that's bad for the environment. That's not the specific reason
that I hate n f T s. The specific reason
I hate a f is because how fucking stupid they are.
It's so stupid and boring and empty and like it
just isn't the right word. Yeah, I hate to sound
(06:32):
money on it, but like your grandparents, like just not
understanding the appeal, but really, really, what's the appeal? Um? Yeah,
play this trailer. I mean the appeal is making money
for the people who get really, Yeah, let's watch let's
watch this cartoon masterpiece. One am I reading this right?
(06:53):
I'm doing a video of that Monkeys going to space?
Oh my god? Whatever, whatever, it gets me paid, right,
we having me. It's the year Earth is dying. Humans
fucked up real bad, Michael Jackson bad. But there's still home.
(07:15):
Where there's an ape. There's a way. Come on, that's
a dog. Yeah, it's because the dog and I'm guessing
the Red Ape family coming soon. I don't know what
I looked at. How you feeling about that, Cody? You
(07:36):
look like you're about to have an aneurysm am, I
oh god, it's a combination so many things that Yeah,
like it's nothing, it's nothing. What was that? It's what
it was like, it's a bunch of the spaceship was
called the musk one. Yeah, and the pictures of them
(07:59):
looking out spaceship windows and trailer the laziest animation and
it's it's not I'm not talking about like like you
watch an old cartoon like The flint Stones, and like
the animation the things that can make the characters do
is kind of primitive to today, and like there's kind
of a charm to that. This isn't charming. This looks
like something somebody put together on a laptop for because
(08:21):
that's what they did. It's charming. The Flintstones is charming
because that was not lazy in any capacity. That's where
we were at. Like that was a lot of work
to make. Um, this was not. I hate that so much.
And uh, it's just what is it about? What is like?
(08:44):
What is it about? What? Who is writing? There's no
hint of the plot other than the world destroyed? Yeah.
Also like where there's a what was it? Where there's
a h an ape, there's a way, yeah, something like that,
where there's not an ape, like, come on, yeah, they're
(09:04):
they're they're not great writers. I mean, it's it's this
thing where they have this all consuming vision. The people
who are like because it's a it's a mix of
people in n f T s of like people who
are just laundering money, right, and and they're just like,
well this is this is a great way to launder money,
or people who are good con artists and are like, well,
I can make and a lot of people have pulled
off multimillion dollar cons by like creating a line of
(09:27):
n f T s and then taking all of the money,
um and not delivering any of the promised features. Like
it happens all the time in this world. It's just
this like stupid. It's also they're so insistent the people
who are true believers, because that's most of like the marks, right,
Like the people who just want you see this as
a money making venture are using the people who think
(09:48):
that this is going to be all of society as marks.
And I would feel worse for those people if this
wasn't their vision of all of society, if like they
weren't the kind of people who would look at some
ship like this and be like, oh okay, the or
or or like this is a good future where like
we randomly generate images of apes and cast them in
cartoon shows and and have that be our currency. Right,
(10:13):
And it's not this on its own, because it's like, yeah,
I'm sure at some point there will be completely computer
generated plots and actors and voice actors and the whole
whole stories that human beings never had a hand in touching.
And maybe they'll just be interesting because of how ridiculous
and unhinged they are, certainly at first, But like, this
isn't fun, it isn't kitchy. It's just crap. It's just
(10:35):
they've invented away to kill more trees to make crap.
It's like a first draft of a sketch that you
make when you're just out of college. Yeah, and yeah,
and and in fairness, this has seventy nine, which gives
you some idea of like number one, what a con
and f t s are like the big companies that
(10:56):
are getting in on this, I think are getting fleeced
like a lot of the little people, because the numbers
that some of these are selling for have convinced people like, Okay,
this is a real thing, or at least real for
a while. But this is a small mean. This video
has seventy nine thousand views, right, and most of them
are people making fun of it. It has four hundred
and four likes and twenty nine thousand down earth four
(11:16):
and four up votes in twenty nine thousand down votes,
which is an amazing ratio. That's wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah,
it's just anyway. The good news is that the new
whatever spending bill that just came out, the big, the big,
you know, Biden's very happy about it. The thing of
the jig um, it's better infrastructure. There's some ship. The
(11:39):
ship I think it's in that bill. It maybe just
getting passed around the same time. But there's some restrictions
on what n f T s. They're not restrictions, there's
clarification as to how they're being treated. Because a lot
of critics of n f T have been saying, this
is just unlicensed securities trading. You're just you're just trading
securities without a license, um, and you're calling it something else.
And now the government has said, hey, yeah, you got
(12:02):
to treat these like securities, which means when you sell
one to somebody, you have to have an actual person,
you have to provide a person's information to the government
as to who that sale was, which means you can't
anonymously pay people to just like bid things up as
easily because you're also paying more than thirty taxes or
I think it's about that much on like that the
biggest ones these you're paying taxes on these for every transaction,
(12:24):
and they have to have the real names of real
people so that you can't The benefit of this from
a grifting standpoint was that since it stood outside of
the UH because like actual art, like real art is
used for money laundering all the fucking time. Um it's
been a huge problem, and a bunch of laws it
came in and safeguards were put in the place to
reduce the ability of art sales to work in the
(12:44):
same way that I explained in f T s work.
And now the situation is that, um, like for a
while n f T s were kind of nobody was
looking at them or the government was not taking action
on anything, so you could have the same guy just
bid up as long he had other cryptot to uses
like the basis, just continually bit up the price of
(13:05):
whatever n f T he had into like wow, this
is worth twenty million dollars and look at all these
people who have been Maybe it's just this one guy.
He can't do that anymore because he's paying taxes on
every one of those transactions that exists to jack up
the price of the n f T and he has
to make it public. Who like, he has to he
has to at least let the government know who's um,
who's buying it, So like, yeah, it's just this guy
(13:26):
manipulating a security um anyway, so hopefully they're fucked. They've
got like a year I think before all this, all
this gets settled. But that's my n f T rant
for the day. How are you all feeling confused? But um, yeah,
it's not. You're not confused because you don't get it.
You're confused because it's just too stupid to be real. Yeah,
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that's that's that's the only your confusion comes from a
place of like, how could how could it be this dumb?
And that's exactly right. I yeah, this sp a man
on the But I've gotten more and more comfortable with
accepting that, Like over the past couple of years. It's
not just n f T s, it's lots of things
(14:10):
where I'm like everything, and so you just have to, um,
get comfortable with the unknowing. Yeah, embrace the stupid. Uh.
This ties into another piece of news because last last week, Um,
Richard Kianka, better known as Low Tax, founder of the
Something Awful forums, died Um and he had he was
(14:34):
not a good person. Uh was a spousal abuser on
a number of different cases, like squandered every opportunity in
piece of good fortune that came his way. But he
also invented, like the modern a huge chunk of like
digital culture that even persists in the social media era.
Like Something Awful is where memes in a lot of
cases got started. It's the first time you had like
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people on an internet community like going into the real
world to like go after the Church of scientology and
ship like it. And it's very important piece of foundational
digital culture. And Richard Kianka had a motto for the
website that he ran into the ground called the Internet
makes you Stupid, which is the the only thing he
ever really got right. Um, it's so fucking dumb. Everything
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is so goddamn stupid. And like n f t s,
they don't really like the The environmental impact is horrible.
If you view the total environmental impact of n f
t s on like a global scale, it's not problem
no one, but the sheer, the sheer scope of how
dumb in f t S are as a concept is
(15:39):
offensive to the soul. Yeah, and how much dumber they'll get. Yeah,
they'll only get yeah blasting off to Mars to Muskville.
They go to Muskville by the way. Yeah, of course
they go to chains by the way. Oh good, so
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somebody knows what they're doing. That's good to hear. This
is so ridiculous, chicks, baby have you You should look
at the lazy Lions art if you really want to
get angry lions. Yeah, there's all the same. Yea procedurally
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generated crap like someone drew one monkey and then plugged
a bunch of fucking accessories into an algorithm. Excuse me,
excuse me, they're idiots, right, Like it's not just lazy art,
it's like offensively shitty. I mean, it's like want to
embrace it, like, yeah, we don't give your eyes general
(16:51):
And I hate believe you said that I should look
at these you, I there's something important I haven't quite
figured out how to write about this yet and like
what what this is all kind of like swirling around
in my head for me, But like it's just I
(17:12):
I thinks, as a student of history, you have to
avoid acting as if there's a privileged position within time
to stand from right in terms of like making judgments
about things and how dumb things are. And it is
true that incredibly dumb things we're have been going on
all throughout history, and that's that's made up the majority
of international relations at least, is very dumb things. But
(17:34):
I'm not a historian, but I am a student. I
do study history quite a lot, and this is one
of the dumbest things I've ever heard of people doing.
Like We've done a lot of stupid stuff, but this
is so fucking dumb. Well, what it really is is
an alarming sign of our devolution, evolution whatever you want
to call it. Um culturally, I don't know if that's
(17:58):
the case. I think this is the way things go,
you don't think. I think devolution again is kind of
acting from within a privileged position in time and and
taking the stance that, like something else that I experienced
some other moment in history, I think was better now
for these reasons, and so I guess kind of the
(18:18):
way I prefer to look at it is not that
like this is bad because things were better before, but
like the stupidity of this, um would not have been
possible in another era, the kind of we we invented
a new kind of dumb for this. Right throughout history,
people invent new kinds of stupid, And this is like,
(18:39):
this is something new being born right now. We haven't
fully seen the shape of this kind of stupid yet. Sure,
that's a better way of approaching it than just devolution,
that's the jokey thing. But you know, yeah, this is
a choice people are trying to make. Yeah, the direction
that we are going used to like people and like
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influencers and like social capital tied up to it, and like, well,
and I guess what's scary is like this might work.
It might be in terms of the metrics by which
you people govern society. Um, this might they might decide, like, Nope,
this was a great idea. Burning up huge chunks of
carbon into the atmosphere in order to make procedurally generated
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monkey pictures into lazy cartoons is the way we want
the human race to work. I mean, just a general
I know, I know what might happen, we might be
seeing this happen, but in general, it just astounds me
that a whole new industry has emerged that is very
bad for the planet, despite the conversations that we all
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have every day that we're like, yeah, let's get behind
this thing. And I know that in the scheme of things,
there's lots of stuff that are bad for the planet,
just like you laid out earlier. But a new thing
that we all like, this is so much. It's one thing.
It's one thing to give, it's one thing to kill
the world by giving human beings what we've always wanted,
(20:06):
which is like a horse that can never die, um
and protects us from the rain and plays our favorite
music right like that, And that's that's dumb. That was
a bad decision, but it mad like historically you can
see like it's sathing with like air travel horrible for
the environment. It's fulfilling a dream man has had for
going back now air travel as a person to like,
(20:28):
so we're doing horrible damage to the environment in order
to turn pictures of monkeys into commodities. Why terrible pictures
of monkeys alright, terrible, horrific pictures of monkeys. Um. Anyway,
that's that's all I have to say. Yeah, it was
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a lot, and I thank you. I'm sorry. Break, don't
be sorry. You just we get to take a break,
you know, we get to take a break together. Everything
(21:12):
all right, We're back. And I think during the break
I came up. I came to the conclusion, like, what
is so offensive about n f t S. To me,
it's the it is the end of all pretense of
the American dream in terms in terms of like the
pretense that like in the United States, you can be
born poor and you can, through good decisions and careful work,
(21:33):
become a business owner and own your own business and
make and raise your your class and your position in society,
and like anyone can do that. That's like the that's
the American myth, right um. And so past scams like
am Weigh and the like latched onto that myth by
saying like this is the way for you to make
your own business and raise to become a rich person,
(21:54):
raise out of the working class, and you can do
it if you just work hard enough. And that was
a scam. The whole thing was always a scam. Like
even outside I am way. But it was a scam
with an understandable dream attached, which is like, I I
want to believe that with hard work, I can improve
my position in the world. That's an empowering thing to
believe when you come out of the beliefs that people
had before about like, yeah, your social position is born
(22:17):
and you it cannot be moved. You know, you're a surf.
You'll die a surf. That's the way it works. You know,
there's there's absolutely no mobility coming out of that world.
It was like this big deal and every scam that's
hit this country since it's like latched onto parts of it.
But there was there was a core there of like
this dream of through your own effort rising ahead in
the world, as opposed to the kind of the core
(22:39):
of the n f T scam isn't through your own
effort you can rise ahead in the world. It's if
you buy the right procedurally generated monkey picture, you could
become a billionaire. That's the promise of n f T
S and I. It's how to make the most amount
of money with the least amount of effort you can
get you can it's it's it's my nephew, you who's
(23:00):
way too old to believe that Elon Musk is very
cool to have billions of dollars. Um, what else should
we talk about? I don't know, real quick. When you
when you, if you guys did make the mistake of
googling the lazy lions and seeing the images and the
(23:21):
image search, if you scroll down, you will be treated
to actual pictures of lazy lions and it's really cute. Yeah,
now that sounds like that sounds like a good thing
to be trading around. That's just exactly I would I
(23:42):
can imagine a utopian civilization in which human beings are
able to like store the emotional and mental like data
of seeing something for the first time and share that,
and then the currency in that world does become the
cutest things you've seen an animal done, because like then
everyone can relive that moment that your cat fell in
that ridiculous word whatever. That would be a much saner
(24:05):
base for a system of currency. I think, um, just
shop he's fucking I'm sorry, these fucking stupid apes in
their stupid spaceship escaping Earth, which is destroyed. Why do
you think the Earth is destroyed? Stid F. I just
need to say we've we've spent so much time talking
(24:26):
about a trailer that none of our listeners saw. They
just listened to us react to it's fine, radio baby, Fine,
let's let's talk about other things. Yeah, uh, Cody, you'd said, yeah, okay.
Well Alex Jones, guys, how about oh yeah he lost God?
(24:47):
What is this his fourth case for his words once again?
Um yeah, it's like it's uh, it's definitely not his first,
probably not his last. Probably, Um yeah, he's found liable.
Um by default. Umi, almost doesn't happen. Like it's very difficult,
(25:11):
Like very rarely does a case like this end by default.
It's like almost unheard of because it just means that
the court kept saying, okay, as a result of this case,
you are legally obligated to provide us with X. And
Alex Jones and his lawyers always said no. The the
guy they had acting as the representative of the company,
like that's an official person you have to designate in
(25:33):
this kind of a case. Is like who who is
speaking for the company? The guy that they picked for
that wasn't told that was his job when he went
in to be the post. Like in the deposition, you
can hear him find out that he's representing Knowledge Fights
done some incredible coverage of this, but yeah, he's he
keeps losing cases. Um, it should put him out of business.
(25:55):
Uh thinkers business. Through this, I discovered that one of
his companies it is called Free Speech Systems, which I
guess I think it's kind of Ye, it's good stuff. Um,
it's yeah, good stuff. I mean, this thing is discussing.
I mean, I knew that this has been going on,
but in this news breaking and reading through everything, I
(26:18):
had forgotten just how disgusting it is. I'm just gonna
the shooting. This is from the a p. The shooting
was portrayed on Jones's Infu Infu War shows a hoax
involving actors aimed at increasing gun control. Jones has since
acknowledged the schools shooting did occur, but families of the
victims said that they have been subjected to harassment and
death threats from Jones's followers because of the hoax conspiracy
(26:39):
pushed on info Wars. I just stop to think about
that for a moment, because we're talking about this and
making jokes. But what this represent these people, I mean,
the greatest tragedy and then to have years and years
and years of this fucking clown making their life a
living hell. Uh and way, there's no point here. I
(27:02):
just feel like it's important to acknowledge what this is
about and what happened here. Yeah, um it's a gross
man and uh, you know, like the records that he
was supposed to release were related to whether or not
he profited from spreading about this. He wouldn't, so maybe
he did from that. And they're gonna, you know, appeal
(27:29):
this and everything and push for this, and they're just
trying to say that there's no proof that we did this. Well,
you're not providing proof that you didn't. Man, Yeah you
I mean, Alex does this every time. It's like that.
It's like when you bring up things that he said, um,
in like criticizing him, he'll say, like if you play
a clip from it, he'll say, it's taken out of context.
(27:50):
Like it it doesn't matter. The only the only thing
that matters from this is that fucking god willing they
will destroy the ability of Info Was to operate as
a company through the lawsuits as a result of this. Um.
That that's all I think we can really get from it. Um. Yeah,
I so this is sort of related, um because the
(28:12):
same same kind of little little monster. Um. I don't
know if anyone else saw this. Uh Milo Unapolis in
a minute is uh you know he's going through his
like I'm no longer gay phase, like I'm converted and
I'm straight now, Um, a reasonable like respectable guy now. Uh.
(28:36):
He is currently selling uh little Virgin Mary statues on
a church militant dot shop uh uvc type um the
church militant test its own shopping network. Oh yeah, um.
And it's him next to this like sixties seventy year
(29:00):
old lady. Uh, just trying to sell these little merry statues. Um,
as if nothing else happened before this. Um, it's very
very funny. I don't know if you want to even
like what's he being? So wait, how do they describe
him on the channel, Like what is he? I haven't seen.
I don't know. I've seen selected clips, so I haven't
(29:24):
seen like the introduction of this show, like Hi, I'm
this person and here's Milo. Do not google him? But
easier to uh to sell these for you. Um. It's
very it's just very entertaining to watch if you have
if you have the time, check out Milo Annapolis Christian
Church militant YouTube shopping. Look at him sitting on this
(29:47):
screen next that little old that old lady. It's so
it's so weird, like to see this uh adoring virgins
adoring virtue statue fifty. What a deal? What a deal?
What a freaking deal? Right? Look at gross. It's not
(30:10):
news and it's not super related, but uh they're the
same person to me. Um, and good for him. I'm
glad he's landing on his feet. Well, yeah, you know,
it's just good to see someone working, you know, by
that he's gotten got something going on, you know, he's yeah,
(30:32):
he's he's all over this channel dot shop. Um, that's bleak. Yeah,
you don't want to help me determine something. Yeah, So
there was this there's this fucking video going around from
the Laura Ingram Show where it's rough. Um, it's supposed
to be like the name of the segment is Numbers
(30:55):
Don't Live youre was like woke free TV, and so
I think it's about how uh woke TV is uh
not getting good ratings or some ship. Um, that's what
it's supposed to be about. This comes apparently just in
the middle of of of the segment. Um, Yeah, is
it another thing that we're gonna listen to? Yeah, we
(31:15):
probably should. Yeah, yeah, I can't tell if it's a
bit or not. Um, I have opinions on this, yeah earlier. Yeah,
it's going. I just checked it, like, I just saw
it for the first time right before we started recording.
So I had and it doesn't there doesn't seem to
be Wait, is this the youth thing? Yeah? It is,
(31:36):
it is. I just can't this a bit or real. No,
it's fucking real, and it's really fucking funny. Okay, Jared, Katie,
I'm so excited for you to see this. You know,
I was watching an episode of You where measles came up.
Wait wait, wait when did I mention measles? I don't
(31:57):
know it was on you? What? What was on me?
What are you talking about? Right? What? I never had
the meas's on you? We never did. We never did
a measles in vaccine episode of my Is this a joke?
I don't know you're talking about? It was on you?
(32:17):
It was on you. I never had Raymond, I've never
had measles. What are you talking about? The stupid it
was an episode of a show Laura, what's it called you?
It's called you. I've never done a show on measles.
I just completely called you on Netflix. There's a show
(32:39):
called Lauring. I'm a Netflix. I'm moving home to Adele.
I can't explain this to you, singer. Oh wow, I
don't know. I think it's real. I think it's fucking real.
I think it's no that real. I think it's real.
I think it's real. I think they're a debate about this.
(33:03):
There's a hearty debate about this. Did she come out
and be like I was joking or something, and like
I understood the whole time because you didn't. You didn't
you just you didn't she She seemed to be getting
flustered a bit about it. It's it's it's clearly it's
obviously an Abbot and Costello bit. I made a joke
(33:26):
about that on Twitter that like, this is the Thousand
Monkeys typewriters version of of of the works of Abbot
and Costello. But that's also like the kind of harmless
old timey comedy that a bunch of right wing ghoules
would pick to replicate on their show for some baffling reason,
I would need to like sit down and look at
the cody if you seen more of the context of this. No,
(33:48):
I haven't seen that before. I would have to look
at an episode of the ingram Angle. Apparently they've done
like things like this before, not exactly the context, but
they've done bits. It's like, it's because the thing is,
if it's not planned, it's extremely funny and embarrassing. Uh.
If it is planned, it's very stupid, And if it's planned,
(34:11):
it's very stupid imporing. But I um, and what's the point,
which I guess means, well, you know what we're talking
about it, so we're talking about accomplished, right, I guess yeah.
I mean we're just here's the thing you're saying. You're
saying that it's very clearly a comedy act or it's
not funny enough to is if it's clearly a calmedy act,
(34:35):
make it clear that it's a comedy act. I don't.
I the I think what it is is more evidence
that that side of the population in this country has
gotten so we've gotten so pulled apart that it's like
I grew up watching Fox News every day and I'm like,
I don't I don't know what they're going for with
this ship. This is just this is just ridiculous. Well,
(34:57):
also like her whole show is like a bit, like
it's just it's like the entire thing is just like
they're all a bit but like they don't tend to
do this. Again, I'm not a regular watcher Laura Ingram.
I think she was a no that was gredive ancestor
and who was the big lady anchor on Fox when
I was a kid. But there's a there's like a moment, Uh,
(35:22):
we're the same guy fell out of his chair um
on the same episode. No, no, no, no no, it's from
here we Go. It's you might have remembered when they
took a they okay, it's when they took pictures of
themselves with bud light. Was during the Kavanaugh hearings and
(35:43):
they were like people, and so they got bud light
out and then they tried to take a selfie and
then he fell out of his chair and she says
they did it on purpose. Uh so, like I just
like this weird like limbo space of like they do
these things is that either don't quite work or they
do them accidentally. And then they claimed that they did
(36:05):
them on purpose. I'm excited, No, Cody, you know what
I'm really excited for when when these these beautiful, precious
moments from the ingram Angle are turned into n f
T s so that you can digitally own it? Would
that fun? You're you joke? But my god, absolutely that's
where it's head and baby if it doesn't. And now
(36:29):
one of our listeners, one of you guys, is going
to take that idea and run with it. Yeah, this
is your chance to be a millionaire. Yeah you got
like a year, right, you got this is your window. Yeah,
you got about a year. We're going to take a
quick break and then we're gonna come back and shoot
the ship somewhere together everything. Oh gosh, we sure are
(37:04):
we sure are? Welcome back to the ingram Angle. Do
a little bit an tell if there are jokes or not? Um,
Michael Flynn, that was pitched as an idea that we
talked about Bannon TV. Has anyone ever done like a
(37:27):
like a Michael Flynn Dr Quinn medicine woman mash up?
It seems that seems doable. Another idea just for the masses.
You're just being gold today, Rob, just just throwing out
money making. So yeah, Michael Flynn's in the news this week.
(37:48):
Is it good? No? Uh? For a comment that he
made during a speech to a conservative Christian audience, um
and what's it called the Reawakened America Tour in Texas.
He said, if we're going to have one nation under God,
which we must, we have to have one religion, one
(38:11):
nation under God, and one religion under God, right, all
of us working together? What the fuck is that? What
is he trying to do? What is he doing here?
He's leaning He's leaning in, leaning hard into it, right,
like this is what this is what like the Republican
Party generally wants, right like like he's like he's like
(38:32):
he's so uh deep in getting away with stuff and
just like being in the news kind of and not
really that he can just sort of say this stuff
out loud. Right, Yeah, you knows these articles like what
is this in the article James Clappers, Mike Flynn today
is not the Mike Flynn of prior to that. I know,
(38:53):
you know this, this guy has changed, you know, I
mean you gotten deep ship. Uh. He was cooperating in
the investigation with the Russian you know, collusion whatever. Oh
my god, we've been through so much. Um, you know.
(39:18):
Then he flipped and campaigned hard for you know and
Donald Trump apardon from Donald Trump, which he got. So
he's just a living example of everything, you know, Like
he keeps doing it. He's doing it because he can,
(39:38):
and he gets away with it, and there's nothing left
for him except to lean and harder now you know. Yeah,
that's the thing that happens when these people like go
go so far off the edge. Um, And it's I
don't know, there's a lot of conversation about like, I
don't know, Um, how do you how do you handle
the fact that with mass media, anyone you try to
(40:01):
like punish for doing something objectively terrible and he's done
a lot of funked up ship is UH is not
going to just like find a fan base and UH
become a millionaire talking about how we need to murder
all the non Christians? Like what do you? I don't
actually know what the solution to Mike Flynn. The problem is,
it's it's a it is a sticky wicket for society
(40:24):
to try to answer, because if you're going to have
free speech and presidents who can pardon people, and a
political system that works the way ours does. You're gonna
have Mike Flynn's and it doesn't it doesn't even matter.
He's he doesn't matter as an individual. There would be
people like him who would make the decisions he's making
because he's just making perfectly rational decisions for a guy
(40:47):
in Mike Flynn's position. Yeah, And I don't know. I
don't know what we do about this. Uh um, Well,
I don't find him on the Yeah, I mean, yeah,
he's like open invitation. Why the fun we can talk
to him about the come of elected leaders. Yeah, yeah,
(41:11):
I mean what do we do about it? Steve Bannon
was indicted this week? Yeah, he sure was. I guess
we'll see if there was. It's I don't know, he's
already out on out without bail. I mean the arraignment
comes Thursday. Yeah. I don't feel great about this. I
(41:33):
don't feel great about contempt of Congress as like a
thing we go after people for. Well, it's not going
to be much, no matter what. It's like thirty days,
it's it's it's dollars, nothing but helped him, like they're not.
It's because it's because they're not willing to go after
him for like well, you could make a pretty strong
legal case that he tried to incite a revolution, like
(41:55):
a violent overthrow of the government, which is like pretty
serious crime. You could be you can you can get
some hard time for trying to overthrow the entire government
of the United States. Um. But again it's he had
another like compromise and half measure in dealing with the coup,
which means we're going to have another fascist coup. That's
the way they work. That's what I mean. I was like,
just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean he's not
(42:17):
still working for it. Yeah, yeah, get like lets himself
get in front of the camera and pay himself as
like this sort of like murder figure for a brief
moment until he pays the fucking fine, uh and give
his little speech about the future and where we're going.
(42:39):
What's fun is that Mike Flynn has also been subpoena
He's just spending his life testifying in front of h anyway, Sorry,
just laugh. I don't know, I don't know what to do.
(43:00):
I'm I'm doing the thing that happens to me at
the end of every year, which is I've completely given
up on society and civilization, and I'm willing to walk
into the woods and hopefully by the time, yeah, by
the time we get to like Jan Feb next year,
I'll be I'll be ready to re engage with the
world in a productive manner. But I'm just I'm not
(43:20):
just at my wits end with it right now. I
am too. I think we all are. I feel well, like,
let's put this into context. I mean, none of us
have had vacations in forever years. It's been a slug
and um to Syria. That was nice. You went to Syria.
(43:41):
That was a vacation. It's part of a vacation. Yeah,
it was. It was nice. It was it was a
part of the vacation. Yeah, it was great. It was
a lot better than than working all the time. I mean,
I guess I've had a week off here there, but
not the same thing. Yeah, it's been a while. So Yeah,
(44:02):
we've been talking guys about how we can have some
fun for the rest of the year on the show,
and we've got some ideas. We're gonna have some fun. Um. Yes,
we we are going to um launch an n f
T band based off of pictures that Katie and I
have taken of Cody in moments where he trusted us. Uh,
(44:23):
it's the it's the Cody collection. There's thirty thou images, um,
and you can and if you own them, you have
the right to monetize Cody's image. Um, you could cast
him in your own n f T cartoon. Yeah, image
for every song songs coming your way. Maybe you should
make yourself an n f T and make an album
(44:44):
to go with it or something. I I will never
participate in n f T s any way, unless unless
it's very funny, right, But so maybe my my line
(45:04):
remains the same, which is that I will I will
take on any deal in exchange for a bear Cat
or equivalent armored vehicle. But in the case of n
f T s, their credit is no good and I
will need the armored vehicle provided to me in full
before I will. I will say anything nice truck count
absolutely not in the under no circumstances. No, it makes sense,
(45:28):
it makes sense. I can't believe I met someone who
bought one. Anyway. Well, I mean whatever, I'm sure it'll
be fun. Most I mean the Tesla products. They're kind
of old for electronic cars now, but like they're fun. Um,
Like I get white people like them. It's the same
thing like the Rivian though like the truck, well, no,
(45:48):
I I don't Well, I don't enjoy the design aesthetics
of the Tesla truck, but I know, like a nightmare.
I mean it like it will eat you. It's not,
it's it's not. It's not a boring design. So I
don't know people like to own weird ship. That makes
sense to me. The fact that people might want to
own a ridiculous space car that looks like the fucking
(46:11):
vehicle from Halo. Um, Like, oh yeah, I get white
people are going to buy that fucking thing. Um and whatever.
It's a thing. At least it has it crosses that
barrier actually being broken. Capable of being broken when you
punch its window, yeah, but capable but capable of moving
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even if it's a terrible truck. A terrible truck is
better than the best drawing of a monkey like utility perspective.
No disagreement. I just don't want to date the person
driving that car. That's that's fine. Everyone has the right
to I won't date anyone who drives a Mitsubishi. You know,
we have our we have our opinions. Are lines in
the sand, our lines in the sand. That's right, that's right,
(46:56):
Tell you or die. Yeah, I really like my super u. Um,
have we done it? Have we discussed all the things? Yeah,
this is this is legally, Sophie is legal giving us
the sign off legally an episode, I will say. We
did want to briefly mention Brittany is free. That is good.
(47:18):
That is nice for conservative ship. So if you are
in a conservative ship, be a famous millionaire and maybe
you two can one day get out of it. Um.
I did see, I think yesterday being passed around these
photos of her in her car, Like, oh, look she's free.
Look she's a free woman. I'm so happy, and like,
(47:39):
maybe leave her alone. Ye made her lesson here, Maybe
leave her alone? Maybe just leave her alone. Yeah, that's
my that's a great, a great note to end on.
Yeah for today, UM, leave her the funk alone, guys,
and have a great Thanksgiving next year. We won't be
(48:00):
dropping an episode next week, but back the week after that.
It was something fun. What we're fun. We're thankful. I
would like to also extend congratulations to friend of the
Pod JP Morgan, who is suing Tesla for breach of contracts.
Relating to and they want a hundred and sixty two
(48:22):
million dollars from him immediately. And in this instance, I
I support JP Morgan because I think it would be
funny if Elon Musk paid officially became the man who
paid a hundred and sixty two million dollars to tweet.
The money is going to be in a in a
bad person's hands either way, it might as well be funny.
(48:43):
And it's funny, very funny. Yah, just just so he
can tweet. And sixty nine it's a good stuff. What
an amazing, what a what a world that we live in?
What it's silly n f t of the world. Yeah, anyway,
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I get your monkeys and lions, so dumb everything, so
dump it's got again. I tried Dan. Worst Year Ever
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