March 30, 2024 • 34 mins
Join The AntMan and Michael Glavin on episode 51 of the WrestleChat Podcast. This electrifying episode is all about the excitement building up to WrestleMania 40 in Philadelphia.
We delve into the intense WWE scene, discussing the possible end of the PG era following the heated altercation between The Rock and Cody. We analyze key confrontations, including Punk, Seth, Drew, and the surprising alliance of Jade Cargill.
Hear our thoughts on the latest developments in WWE storytelling, including how real-life elements are enhancing wrestling narratives.
Plus, we tackle the balance of enjoying wrestling as parents in a changing WWE landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When it comes to professional wrestling. If you are talking
about it, we are talking about it. Welcome to the
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aimed at the City of Brotherly Love. This week, bags
are packed and Philly Cheese steak stops are mapped out.
We are officially ready for wrestle Mania forty. Welcome to
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episode fifty one of wrestle Chats podcast. I'm your host,
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Michael Glavin, or as he's better known in the ring,
(00:44):
the Glavalanche, although he's still yet to set foot in
a wrestling ring. MG. Welcome back Big Week in Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah yeah man. I mean it's all it's all coming
to a head. It's all building to this one weekend. Man,
Like it was really over just this week that I
really started to feel it in my gut that man
Russell Manie is around the corner. It's that time of year.
The greatest time of year. Screw Christmas, Screw Thanksgiving. It's
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Russell Mane this season.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Baby Wow, Wow, screwed Christmas? All right, that music really
amped you up. The new intro really really set Michael
on fire. I guess let's dissect the electrifying confrontation between
The Rock and Cody. It's not just about the hard
hitting action. There's a narrative unfolding. It's as gripping as
(01:33):
any Hollywood blockbuster. And we can't skip the intense dynamics
between Punk Seth Drew and also Jade is now turning blue,
a whirlwind of excitement in the ring. I'm ready to
jump in. I hope you guys are too. I mentioned
we're doing this live right now. Remember you're a part
of our wrestling community's pulse. Drop your comments, your thoughts,
or your fiery opinions, and we'll feature them live right
(01:55):
here on the show. Your voice matters in the Wrestle
Chat Arena. Is the PG era over for WWE? It
would appear so after the altercation between The Rock and
Cody on Monday Night, We've we've often wondered if we
were headed this direction over the past couple of years,
with rumors pointing to that way to only have that
(02:16):
rumor squashed. But when you have the final Boss using
the language that overloads the sensors and showing Cody busted open,
you know, without turning the footage to black and white,
it would appear that we're on the doorstep of a new,
unnamed era in WWE, one where any and all language
could be arable. Commercials are moved from from traditional breaks
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to the mat shout out to prime the segment with
Rock and Cody started the show. It weave throughout. They
never let you forget that there was a conversation that
started all started, it all off, and it certainly ended
in epic fashion. Michael, have you seen a Monday Night
raw any more well crafted than what we consumed this
(03:02):
past Monday?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I can tell you what it's been years. Does it exist? Yeah?
Does it exist in recent memory? No way. I mean
it's so interesting in the conversations that you and I
have had this week over text during you know, the
weekly uh segments of wrestling, whether it be Monday or Friday,
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where where we point out tropes that we think are
normal and then we go, oh, no, wait a minute,
they're paying attention now and and to see especially this week,
and I know we're gonna I'm not gonna get into
any details because we're gonna it's gonna come, but Monday
and Friday, just the attention to detail that is that
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is being paid, attention to uh crafting not just intentional
threads throughout both shows, but also nodding to these stereotypical
overdone tropes that have been done in the past. And
you know, when we get around a SmackDown, I'll talk
about one in specific that stuck out to me. But man,
(04:07):
what an amazing show Monday night was with just an
explosive ending that I don't think anybody saw coming.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, agreed, And I want to do this here at
the top because there's I want to kind of do this,
get it out of the way, mention it. If you
guys want to chime in, great, If you don't, let
it roll and we'll maybe bring it up later it
becomes an issue. Here's the only place that I have
any kind of problem with any of this, the aggression.
I absolutely love the blood you sparingly and when the
story calls for it, I don't have any issues at all.
(04:38):
The language. This is where as a father of young kids,
it gets a little tricky. And here's why. And there's
only really one part of it that gets really tricky.
I know, we don't hear what they say when they
curse on the USA Network. They bleep it out, but
the and the point is made too. They get the
point across by bleeping the words out. You know what
they mean. However, as a father of a young girl
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who thinks that she is the mini white version of Bianca,
bell Air shows up with Dad at Raw wearing her
Bianca T shirt, hopped up on cotton, candy and coke.
And here's no, not Dwayne Johnson nor the Rock Here's
Frank Wolf from the Jungle Cruise or Mowanna drop four
or five or or ten f bombs uncensored on Cody
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Roads there in the arena because you heard it all
when you're in the arena without getting a warning. Dad's
not going to be too happy if that were to happen.
If we're headed into a twenty twenty four version of
the Attitude era. Let me be the first to say
I am all about it. That brought us the most
memorable moments in all of pro wrestling consistently. But if
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you're flipping the switch. Could you just do me a
favor tell us so we as parents can be responsible
with what we expose our children to at live events. MG,
you got kids, How do you toe that line when
you're not sure where the line is each and every week.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think it's a great point. I sit more on
the fence with it. Here's why. To your point, I
think that, you know, WWE has always been good on
the TV side about saying, hey, you know, we're at
seven o'clock Central right now. You know, there's probably still
some kids awake whatever. When they roll over into that
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nine to nine thirty Central timeframe, there's a you know, mathematically,
there's a good chance that anybody that is watching is
probably of a slightly older you know age live exactly
to your point, that gets a little tricky. You know,
I'm not gonna say that. You know, my kids are
never exposed to language, whether it be from school or
(06:47):
out in public. But when you're looking at your hero, yeah,
when you're looking at her heroes and to your point,
you know, looking at Maui from Mowana, you know, and
kids making that connection, it does create some difficult conversations
to have that you know, it's it's trying to explain
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k fabe to a kid that can't a kid that
can't understand cave fab. Well, this isn't really Maui. It
is Maui, but it's not Maui, you know, the whole
type of thing. And so, yeah, I don't necessarily want
my son. You know, my son's ten years old. I
imagine in the next few years, he's going to start attending,
you know, arena shows with me, and uh, I don't
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necessarily want him exposed to it either. The difficult part
is when you're Dwayne Johnson and you sit on the board,
what repercussions from who can actually exist? And so I
don't know, that's a tough one to be honest.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The repercussions only come from us. And I'm not saying
we need to We're not going to stop watching. The
only thing I asked is again, just tell us, don't
tell us stop watching. The threat's gotta be the place
the threat. Well, the point it's not even stop watching.
The watching is not the problem. It's the going there live.
And I don't want this to be the whole of
this entire podcast or the bulk of it anyway, But
(08:13):
if you wouldn't mind just do us a favor. Hey,
I want to let you know that we are moving
a different direction. I'm not even talking about the live broadcast. Listen,
I'll I can edit that really quick, or I can
censor that really quick, hit mute, change the channel, whatever.
You're right there. But if you're going to an event
and man, she can't wait to see Bianca beell Air,
she can't wait to see Becky Lynch or whatever. But
(08:35):
in that she gets this, and you didn't tell me,
Just tell me. I don't care, Hey, just want to
let you know some of you you're gonna hear some
stuff that you haven't heard a lot of in the
past on our at our live events. Great, And if
you're fine with your kid, then that's your business. I'm
it's I know she's going to be exposed to it, obviously,
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And like I said, sometimes it's when somebody pulls out
in traffic in front of me. If I'm just being real,
But I get then have that conversation with her dad,
let his emotions get the best of him, etcetera, etcetera.
But with all that said, what an incredible way to
craft a story on raw bringing it back here regardless
of what goes down at WrestleMania forty. You know next weekend.
(09:16):
I'm anxious to see Cody versus Rock one on one
down the line, possibly Summer Slam in Cleveland in August.
I don't know, but we are jumping ahead. What's what's
been done for so long in wrestling? Both guys have
a mic and take turns yelling one liners at each other.
Here though we had first a surprise appearance by The Rock.
(09:37):
He wasn't advertised to be on this raw, but once
the shock of him even being there wore off, we see, hmm,
the Rock doesn't have a mic. Well, that's weird. Why
does The Rock not have a mic? He even shows
his hands to Cody as though he's you know, hey,
I come in peace, listen. I'm not here to you know,
put my hands behind my back. I'm not going to
(09:57):
hit you. But he leans in and he whispers something.
And now for the rest of the night, you got
all of social media buzz and wondering what did the
Rock say? People lipreading? Boy? Did we find out what
he said? After a run in from Solo and Jimmy
on the Jay and Shin match, Cody and Seth came
to the rescue. Cody and Jimmy battle the back. First
(10:19):
solo tried to jump in, but the final boss got
the final SmackDown, leaving Cody bloodied in the loading dock
in a scene reminiscent of a John Wick movie. Objectively,
how could anyone not love how this played out?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Michael, I'll tell you what it was cinema. It was
nothing short of incredible. And to your point, the John
Wick vibes there at the end of the show were
just incredible. And we continue to see this beautiful evolution
of this new rock character that he's just a bad
(10:58):
sob and uh and man. He put on a great
show tying together all the things that he said, you know,
an appropriate street type of beating on Cody that didn't
insult our intelligence by you know, I think there was
one time that he slammed his head into a plastic
table where I was like, it's a plastic table.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But besides that, you know it it was They still hurt, Michael,
They still hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's still hurt. But you know, they didn't go straight
for the blood. They waited till the very end. But
then you know, we transitioned right into Rock gave us
a little bonus content that nobody signed up for well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'll tell you a lot of that came from I'm
standing in the living room. Family's all there. My oldest
daughter came into town and for for Easter weekend, and
I'm sitting there just scrolling through Instagram reels or just
through whatever, and it's I just hear somebody in the
background say something and a rock go No, that'll stop.
(12:01):
My wife just looks over at me. I'm look, I
didn't go searching for rock f bombing people. I think
it just happened. Don't get mad, but we'd like for
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(12:24):
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That's how good this show was. We're gonna be talking
Punk Drew Seth here when we get back on the
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(13:13):
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If all Monday Night Raw had to offer was that
story with Cody and Rock, that would have that would
have easily satisfied everybody. I think. However, that wasn't all
we got. By long shot Michael, we got an unscripted promo.
(13:33):
At least it felt that way from seeing Punk Seth
Rawlins and Drew McIntyre. I mean this with affection, clunky
in all the best ways comments that left Drew grinning
into the camera with nothing to say because you know,
he technically couldn't say anything with a reference to Vince
genuine a reaction of disgust from seeing Punk after hearing
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Seth's music all around an amazing promo from these guys
that didn't involve one second of an altercation. Michael, why
did you love this promo interaction so much? Because I
know you did?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You you said it it was clunky in all the
best of ways. Here's why people can tell when something
is real and when something is fabricated. And real is
not always pretty, but real is always good. This promo
between all of these guys shows how sharp they all are,
(14:33):
shows how conversation, when not done from a group of writers,
can carry weight inside of a segment on a TV show. Yeah,
and to me, this feud and this ongoing feud and
these potential feuds between this group of guys was you know,
the stakes were raised even more by the shots that
(14:56):
they were taking at each other.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, And not only that, but behind the k fabe,
you can tell that they were enjoying it because they
were able to craft these sharp, pointy phrases and spit
them out at each other. As you pointed out, when
Drew got caught, you know, Seeampunk says, Oh yeah, Drew,
who said you were the chosen one? Who's the one
(15:20):
that you know, tell us the name of the person
that said you were the chosen one. And Drew knew
that he got got and you know, there were several
moments between all guys involved that they got one over
on the other. It was just a beautiful display of
not only trust in trusted talent, but also how good
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things can be when you let these talented people do
what they're paid to do.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, and there was something I heard Bully Ray say
about that moment because even left guys in the business going,
this seemed pretty real and I wonder if anybody knew
what anyone was going to say, and if you know,
there's a he and this is these are his words,
not exactly I'm spitballing here, but in just it was
(16:12):
it was about how you don't leave the other person
their words are with their in their hand. And that's
what he kind of felt that cim Punk did to Drew.
But if, but if they knew about it, that's that's
not an issue. And may I'll be honest though as
a viewer not as neither one of us are in
the business. We don't climb in a ring every week.
(16:35):
I I kind of like that for Drew because it
gave him an opportunity to sink or swim if it
if it truly was something he wasn't expecting. Also knew
that he couldn't say Vince McMahon's name on raw. Then
he had to think of some way to get out
of it. And doing that sharpens sharpens your the tools
in the tool chest. And if you have a way
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to get out of that around it, use it for
your advantage. If you don't, you look like a fool.
I didn't think he'd looked like a fool at the
end of that, but because I mean, especially when everybody
I guess it would seeing Punk that left the ring first,
and Drew was like, this isn't over. Just because you
leave isn't doesn't mean this whole thing's over. I've got
stuff to say and stuff to do. And and the
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fact that also set the way Seth cross paths without
even looking at seem Punk there on the rampway too.
Just there's so much to be I'm glad. I was
a little iffy of why they're continuing to pull see
Him Punk back into the story when the when the
match at Mania is between Seth and Drew, but now
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we know why, and listen. I be honest, I'm really
glad that they have much like I am with Cody
and Rock, although the match is really with Cody and
Roman because and we'll touch on this later on SmackDown.
Stuff later, but on SmackDown they've started to make sense
of the things that most of the time are just
left hanging. You know, why would the Rock attack Cody?
We we kind of know why. But it also pulled
(18:00):
it back to to Roman when the wise Man says,
do you know why he attacked him? Because it was
an order from the head of the table. This is like, oh,
you're connecting dots. We're so used to not. We have
to connect stuff ourselves in our head or go rewatch
old episodes and see where stuff ties together. There were
many things in the promos too that if you didn't
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know what, like seeing Punk was talking about, it would
it would right over your head. And to be honest,
most of it did with me. He said that he
didn't listen to Pat McAfee's show. He's more of the
drive through type. That was a reference to why did
I just lose his name? I just lost his head? Cornette?
(18:41):
It was to Cornette's podcast because he doesn't anyway, it
was just cool how he was throwing little nuggets out there,
gave a little hint that maybe more things could be
said if they were already on Netflix, and I think
it just kind of gave us a little preluding things
to coming.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And the other thing that we're just not used to
is long term storytelling. When you think about when you
get into a real life beef with somebody, normally somebody
else is involved along with you, whether it's your best
friend or their best friend, or it's rarely just a
one v one type scenario. And what we're not used
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to seeing from WWE is multiple people in this feud
pot at the same time. But if you really look
at it, it's highly likely we're gonna get Cody Rocket SummerSlam.
You know, it's highly likely that cm Punk is probably
gonna have more matches with Seth and matches with Drew
and whoever's got the title. And you know, we're crafting
(19:39):
a universe where everything is not linear. And we talked
about that within the last couple of weeks. This is
what real life is like, and real life and k
fabe has merged into one, and we're all better off
for it. So hats off to everybody on the WWE
side for giving us things to look forward to without
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eclipsing what we're waiting on now.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, so true. Your thoughts on Punk Drew Seth from Monday,
chime in, drop a comment, We'll share it and discuss
here on wrestle Chat Live. Thank you for joining us
on YouTube or x or Facebook or even on Instagram.
We love that you're here. I'm going to touch on
a few things that we haven't mentioned about Raw so
far and why it was the best raw that we've
(20:27):
seen in so many years. Rock makes a surprise appearance,
crowd is high. Many times WWE would have put a
like a non thinker match, one that doesn't really have
any consequences, but no, they put Ricochet and JD McDonald.
This is an incredible match, and that's not typically where
they put a match like that. This kept the crowd
up all while still, you know, whispering about what the
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Rock might have whispered to Cody, and then we got
the Punk Seth Drew confrontation, or the conversation as it
would be. Crowd super engayged. Then they continue this story
with Maxine Dupree which is actually you talk about being
real man. You hear from the other ladies back in
the in the locker room they love Maxine in real
(21:10):
life and love are just so impressed that she's learning
on the job in front of the world and people
attacking her. Well, now they're using that as a storyline. Interesting,
how much real they're pulling into that tag match with
DIY and draw a match on and on and on,
then ending it as hot as it started. Michael, what
am I missing that helped make this the best raw
(21:33):
in years? Was there something else in your mind?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know? I think it's just the intentionality of how
they book their shows. You know, there's a lot of
conversation on the internet right now about some organizations not
really being able to structure TV well, and what WWEE
over the last six eight months has been successfully able
(21:58):
to do is take us on an emotional ride and
knowing when we need that break and when we don't,
And when you invest an equal amount of effort into
your entire roster. This is the outcome of paying equal
attention to everybody. Yes, your titles are important, Yes your
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upper mid card is important, but what's also important is
the female superstars of tomorrow like Maxine Dupree that is
learning on the job, that yeah, has had matches like
rough matches in front of us, but continues to handle
it with grace, respect, and maturity. This is what professional
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you know, professional intentionality looks like. Is giving us a
front to back show that doesn't insult our intelligence, that
doesn't bore us and want us to change the channel.
The whole thing, front to back just incredible. And don't
even get me started. We'll probably talk about this more
when we get around a SmackDown, but what we've seen
(23:07):
transformatively in the tag division and then subsequently with factions
is just off the charts awesome. So long way to
answer your question, to see what's happening in the tag
division right now and then subsequently factions. We have some
of the best factions going on right now since I
(23:28):
would argue Degeneration X first version Nation of Domination all
the way back then. We have some of the best
things happening since then.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Not the current DX, the DIY DX.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Those guys are cool.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
D I why is great, but it's funny though not
modern DX. No, Yeah, I got it, okay. John Michael
is watching from Australia on Instagram. John Michael, thank you
for joining us today. Appreciate it. What time is it there?
What time is it in Australia right now? Going to
try to factor that maybe it's the exact same time.
It's just another day to add another day to it.
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Chime in, what was it about Monday that made it
so good to you? We'll share your comments and discuss
here on the show. Listen, you know it appears that
some late night tweets from Tony Kahan are back. I'll
share that and we'll discuss when you get back here.
You go be shaking your head on the wrestle Chat podcast.
Hang on, guys, Thank you guys so much for hanging
(24:32):
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(24:55):
to that, even some surprise us to us, uh that
we don't even know about yet, but we're excited to
share that with you because this is what it's all about,
hanging with you guys each and every weekend or when
the occasion calls for it. Speaking of social media, Twitter
is well, it's getting Tony Kahn in some hot water again.
So John Albert tweeted that strictly business with he and
Eric Bischoff was was going away, and Eric kind of
(25:17):
explained The reason why was that Eric's travel over the
next two or three months is erratic. John is a
very very busy man and it was a challenge to
do that and schedule that, especially when they wanted to
have guests on each and every time. And he John
announced that this next episode would be their last. And
here's how Tony responded, sun setting this fraud of a
(25:41):
business podcast before the next AEW media deal is a
wise choice, to which Eric Bischoff responded with a brand
new YouTube of him doing a podcast solo called Wise Choices.
It's really just him answering questions. But I love it,
(26:01):
and it's just him at the opportunity that he has
to jump on and go on YouTube. Michael, is it
time for Eric and Tony to have a reality show
or is it time for someone to change Tony's Twitter password?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Uh? Definitely the latter. Okay, okay, bear with me. It
is a bold, bold, bold strategy to start poking at
somebody like Eric Bischoff. Yes, was he at the helm
(26:33):
as WCW went under? Yes, But Eric Bischoff is also
the only person in all of history that can say
they got over or got one over on Vince McMahon
for over a year. WCW murdered WWF at the time
(26:58):
in writing, and Eric Bischoff is no scrub. Eric Bischoff
is a very, very smart businessman, and if anything, it
should be the fact that Eric was in charge of
a company that went under is still a reason why
you should listen to him, because either he's a case
(27:19):
study of what you should do or what you should
not do, and in his case, he's both. He'll tell
you don't give inflated contracts with guarantees to superstars because
it'll come back to bite you in the butt.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You know, we have.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know, the the you know. Tony wants to you know,
to go biblical on it, wants to complain about the
speck and Eric Bischoff's eye while Tony's got a plank
in his because what Tony does not realize is he
is following the exact same trajectory of w CW. Here
(28:00):
within the last few months, I mentioned that when we
were talking about AEW, probably the last time we did that,
in the year twenty twenty three, AEW lost something upwards
of fifty million dollars in financial losses versus their income.
That's the same thing that was happening to WCW. WCW's
(28:21):
last full year was a loss of sixty million. And
the fact that also Eric Bischoff came to WWE and
had such an incredible run not only creatively but as
an on screen character as a general manager. This is
a guy that you want to listen to. And I
apologize for, you know, using some pointed language, but Tony
(28:45):
is just acting like a petulant child when it comes
to somebody like Eric Bischoff. And I'm not saying that
Eric Bischoff is the end all be all, but boy,
you're taking a dump on a significant amount of industry
wiz them and experience. And then when you when you
literally just say on Twitter, hey, I'm glad this show
(29:08):
is shutting down because they're critical of me, and now
the critical things they're going to say will allow me
to get a better TV deal. What does that say
about you? Take it from me, I want to say
more stupid stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I just I wonder what the what people at Warner
Brothers Discovery think about Tony's tweets and that all By
the way, that also happened at like three point fifty
in the morning. Man. Jade Cargill's appearance on SmackDown was
more than just a planned promo. It was a It
was a statement. Her alliance with Bianca and Naomi at
(29:46):
the end of the show is a game changer. This
new team is poised to wreak havoc in the best
possible way. I love the promo at the beginning felt
really stiff. Here's some lines. Go read these and I'm like, oh,
is that all work? Getting really from Jade? Her first
appearance on Spackdown, that's it? And what are you wearing?
And then you come back at the end of the
(30:07):
show and she gets in and does what she does
best in the ring now with some credible training. Man,
how'd you feel about this? Michael Holy cow Man?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, one word presentation, presentation, wwe nailed this. Okay, she
comes in, they announce her signing, big deal. Great, Now
we're gonna put you off to the side for a
little while. It feels weird. Trust Us created anticipation, and
(30:40):
there were some very subtle things in her two appearances
on SmackDown that I have to point out. First of all,
you know there might be an echo in here. What
was she wearing? That's neither here nor there. But she
came out, yeah, a little stiff. It was planned, definitely rehearsed.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I didn't hate it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It was still deliver well. Was mad about it. I
knew there had to be more, though, I would say
the single most pivotal moment was when she came back
out the second time. And here's why people are getting
beat up in the ring music hits. She comes out.
(31:20):
Whoever instructed her on this moment is an absolute genius
because she walks out and she takes her time. Her
walk to the ring is both intentional, it is calculated,
and it conveys the message of who she is, which
(31:40):
is I don't need to run in there. Because whether
I run, walk, jog, or am carried to the ring.
The outcome when I get there is the same and
that's I'm going to clear all of you out. I'm
going to beat you guys up and I'm going to
end and what you guys have started. Her confidence, her look,
(32:05):
her attitude has made her a superstar after last night
as great as she was before. WWE has capitalized on
everything that she is and we have just a massive
talent for the next decade that has arrived in the WWE.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Did you see Mercedes Monee and her her when she
came into aaw just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Afterwards, if that tells you anything.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So, she came out at the beginning, she did her
thing at the beginning, then she came out and got
into action at the end. A lot of people critical
of what happened to that. I feel almost like this
was an answer of like, hey, we're going to show
you how to do it real quick with a superstar
that's not as big as Mercedes Monee. Whether if they
had a parallel or it didn't, it was just kind
of interesting to see something that was very similar but
(32:59):
done so much, so much better. It's really what you know,
not w W shills, but I mean, you see it
and you go, okay, Well there's the difference. Look look
at how they did this, but also it was kind
of rem of this it and I even tweeter or
text you during the show and it's like Bobby heenan.
But which side is she on? And that's what when
(33:19):
she comes out slow like that, who's she coming out
to side with? Is she a new member of Damage
Control or is she uh you know, because they kick
somebody out, they kick Bailey out, they have a new
one with with Jade or is she going to team
up with Bianca? And no, we we got the answer
there on that one. It's WrestleMania week, y'all. Let's go.
If you're going to be there, let's connect dm us
(33:42):
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(34:03):
we go live and join in on the chat here
on the wrestle Chat podcast. So I'm missing anything, Michael.
I know there's plenty that we could continue talking about
anything that we need to hit it. It was this
is massive.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This could be an all day show if we wanted
it to be. But I think we hit the highlights.
But all that to say is just super stoked about
this mania. It's going to be the biggest ever, greatest
wrestle Mania of all time, or at least today.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
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(00:44):
the Glavalanche, although he's still yet to set foot in
a wrestling ring. MG. Welcome back Big Week in Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah yeah man. I mean it's all it's all coming
to a head. It's all building to this one weekend. Man,
Like it was really over just this week that I
really started to feel it in my gut that man
Russell Manie is around the corner. It's that time of year.
The greatest time of year. Screw Christmas, Screw Thanksgiving. It's
(01:11):
Russell Mane this season.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Baby Wow, Wow, screwed Christmas? All right, that music really
amped you up. The new intro really really set Michael
on fire. I guess let's dissect the electrifying confrontation between
The Rock and Cody. It's not just about the hard
hitting action. There's a narrative unfolding. It's as gripping as
(01:33):
any Hollywood blockbuster. And we can't skip the intense dynamics
between Punk Seth Drew and also Jade is now turning blue,
a whirlwind of excitement in the ring. I'm ready to
jump in. I hope you guys are too. I mentioned
we're doing this live right now. Remember you're a part
of our wrestling community's pulse. Drop your comments, your thoughts,
or your fiery opinions, and we'll feature them live right
(01:55):
here on the show. Your voice matters in the Wrestle
Chat Arena. Is the PG era over for WWE? It
would appear so after the altercation between The Rock and
Cody on Monday Night, We've we've often wondered if we
were headed this direction over the past couple of years,
with rumors pointing to that way to only have that
(02:16):
rumor squashed. But when you have the final Boss using
the language that overloads the sensors and showing Cody busted open,
you know, without turning the footage to black and white,
it would appear that we're on the doorstep of a new,
unnamed era in WWE, one where any and all language
could be arable. Commercials are moved from from traditional breaks
(02:40):
to the mat shout out to prime the segment with
Rock and Cody started the show. It weave throughout. They
never let you forget that there was a conversation that
started all started, it all off, and it certainly ended
in epic fashion. Michael, have you seen a Monday Night
raw any more well crafted than what we consumed this
(03:02):
past Monday?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I can tell you what it's been years. Does it exist? Yeah?
Does it exist in recent memory? No way. I mean
it's so interesting in the conversations that you and I
have had this week over text during you know, the
weekly uh segments of wrestling, whether it be Monday or Friday,
(03:23):
where where we point out tropes that we think are
normal and then we go, oh, no, wait a minute,
they're paying attention now and and to see especially this week,
and I know we're gonna I'm not gonna get into
any details because we're gonna it's gonna come, but Monday
and Friday, just the attention to detail that is that
(03:45):
is being paid, attention to uh crafting not just intentional
threads throughout both shows, but also nodding to these stereotypical
overdone tropes that have been done in the past. And
you know, when we get around a SmackDown, I'll talk
about one in specific that stuck out to me. But man,
(04:07):
what an amazing show Monday night was with just an
explosive ending that I don't think anybody saw coming.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, agreed, And I want to do this here at
the top because there's I want to kind of do this,
get it out of the way, mention it. If you
guys want to chime in, great, If you don't, let
it roll and we'll maybe bring it up later it
becomes an issue. Here's the only place that I have
any kind of problem with any of this, the aggression.
I absolutely love the blood you sparingly and when the
story calls for it, I don't have any issues at all.
(04:38):
The language. This is where as a father of young kids,
it gets a little tricky. And here's why. And there's
only really one part of it that gets really tricky.
I know, we don't hear what they say when they
curse on the USA Network. They bleep it out, but
the and the point is made too. They get the
point across by bleeping the words out. You know what
they mean. However, as a father of a young girl
(05:00):
who thinks that she is the mini white version of Bianca,
bell Air shows up with Dad at Raw wearing her
Bianca T shirt, hopped up on cotton, candy and coke.
And here's no, not Dwayne Johnson nor the Rock Here's
Frank Wolf from the Jungle Cruise or Mowanna drop four
or five or or ten f bombs uncensored on Cody
(05:24):
Roads there in the arena because you heard it all
when you're in the arena without getting a warning. Dad's
not going to be too happy if that were to happen.
If we're headed into a twenty twenty four version of
the Attitude era. Let me be the first to say
I am all about it. That brought us the most
memorable moments in all of pro wrestling consistently. But if
(05:47):
you're flipping the switch. Could you just do me a
favor tell us so we as parents can be responsible
with what we expose our children to at live events. MG,
you got kids, How do you toe that line when
you're not sure where the line is each and every week.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think it's a great point. I sit more on
the fence with it. Here's why. To your point, I
think that, you know, WWE has always been good on
the TV side about saying, hey, you know, we're at
seven o'clock Central right now. You know, there's probably still
some kids awake whatever. When they roll over into that
(06:25):
nine to nine thirty Central timeframe, there's a you know, mathematically,
there's a good chance that anybody that is watching is
probably of a slightly older you know age live exactly
to your point, that gets a little tricky. You know,
I'm not gonna say that. You know, my kids are
never exposed to language, whether it be from school or
(06:47):
out in public. But when you're looking at your hero, yeah,
when you're looking at her heroes and to your point,
you know, looking at Maui from Mowana, you know, and
kids making that connection, it does create some difficult conversations
to have that you know, it's it's trying to explain
(07:13):
k fabe to a kid that can't a kid that
can't understand cave fab. Well, this isn't really Maui. It
is Maui, but it's not Maui, you know, the whole
type of thing. And so, yeah, I don't necessarily want
my son. You know, my son's ten years old. I
imagine in the next few years, he's going to start attending,
you know, arena shows with me, and uh, I don't
(07:33):
necessarily want him exposed to it either. The difficult part
is when you're Dwayne Johnson and you sit on the board,
what repercussions from who can actually exist? And so I
don't know, that's a tough one to be honest.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The repercussions only come from us. And I'm not saying
we need to We're not going to stop watching. The
only thing I asked is again, just tell us, don't
tell us stop watching. The threat's gotta be the place
the threat. Well, the point it's not even stop watching.
The watching is not the problem. It's the going there live.
And I don't want this to be the whole of
this entire podcast or the bulk of it anyway, But
(08:13):
if you wouldn't mind just do us a favor. Hey,
I want to let you know that we are moving
a different direction. I'm not even talking about the live broadcast. Listen,
I'll I can edit that really quick, or I can
censor that really quick, hit mute, change the channel, whatever.
You're right there. But if you're going to an event
and man, she can't wait to see Bianca beell Air,
she can't wait to see Becky Lynch or whatever. But
(08:35):
in that she gets this, and you didn't tell me,
Just tell me. I don't care, Hey, just want to
let you know some of you you're gonna hear some
stuff that you haven't heard a lot of in the
past on our at our live events. Great, And if
you're fine with your kid, then that's your business. I'm
it's I know she's going to be exposed to it, obviously,
(08:56):
And like I said, sometimes it's when somebody pulls out
in traffic in front of me. If I'm just being real,
But I get then have that conversation with her dad,
let his emotions get the best of him, etcetera, etcetera.
But with all that said, what an incredible way to
craft a story on raw bringing it back here regardless
of what goes down at WrestleMania forty. You know next weekend.
(09:16):
I'm anxious to see Cody versus Rock one on one
down the line, possibly Summer Slam in Cleveland in August.
I don't know, but we are jumping ahead. What's what's
been done for so long in wrestling? Both guys have
a mic and take turns yelling one liners at each other.
Here though we had first a surprise appearance by The Rock.
(09:37):
He wasn't advertised to be on this raw, but once
the shock of him even being there wore off, we see, hmm,
the Rock doesn't have a mic. Well, that's weird. Why
does The Rock not have a mic? He even shows
his hands to Cody as though he's you know, hey,
I come in peace, listen. I'm not here to you know,
put my hands behind my back. I'm not going to
(09:57):
hit you. But he leans in and he whispers something.
And now for the rest of the night, you got
all of social media buzz and wondering what did the
Rock say? People lipreading? Boy? Did we find out what
he said? After a run in from Solo and Jimmy
on the Jay and Shin match, Cody and Seth came
to the rescue. Cody and Jimmy battle the back. First
(10:19):
solo tried to jump in, but the final boss got
the final SmackDown, leaving Cody bloodied in the loading dock
in a scene reminiscent of a John Wick movie. Objectively,
how could anyone not love how this played out?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Michael, I'll tell you what it was cinema. It was
nothing short of incredible. And to your point, the John
Wick vibes there at the end of the show were
just incredible. And we continue to see this beautiful evolution
of this new rock character that he's just a bad
(10:58):
sob and uh and man. He put on a great
show tying together all the things that he said, you know,
an appropriate street type of beating on Cody that didn't
insult our intelligence by you know, I think there was
one time that he slammed his head into a plastic
table where I was like, it's a plastic table.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But besides that, you know it it was They still hurt, Michael,
They still hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's still hurt. But you know, they didn't go straight
for the blood. They waited till the very end. But
then you know, we transitioned right into Rock gave us
a little bonus content that nobody signed up for well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'll tell you a lot of that came from I'm
standing in the living room. Family's all there. My oldest
daughter came into town and for for Easter weekend, and
I'm sitting there just scrolling through Instagram reels or just
through whatever, and it's I just hear somebody in the
background say something and a rock go No, that'll stop.
(12:01):
My wife just looks over at me. I'm look, I
didn't go searching for rock f bombing people. I think
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(13:13):
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If all Monday Night Raw had to offer was that
story with Cody and Rock, that would have that would
have easily satisfied everybody. I think. However, that wasn't all
we got. By long shot Michael, we got an unscripted promo.
(13:33):
At least it felt that way from seeing Punk Seth
Rawlins and Drew McIntyre. I mean this with affection, clunky
in all the best ways comments that left Drew grinning
into the camera with nothing to say because you know,
he technically couldn't say anything with a reference to Vince
genuine a reaction of disgust from seeing Punk after hearing
(13:56):
Seth's music all around an amazing promo from these guys
that didn't involve one second of an altercation. Michael, why
did you love this promo interaction so much? Because I
know you did?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You you said it it was clunky in all the
best of ways. Here's why people can tell when something
is real and when something is fabricated. And real is
not always pretty, but real is always good. This promo
between all of these guys shows how sharp they all are,
(14:33):
shows how conversation, when not done from a group of writers,
can carry weight inside of a segment on a TV show. Yeah,
and to me, this feud and this ongoing feud and
these potential feuds between this group of guys was you know,
the stakes were raised even more by the shots that
(14:56):
they were taking at each other.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, And not only that, but behind the k fabe,
you can tell that they were enjoying it because they
were able to craft these sharp, pointy phrases and spit
them out at each other. As you pointed out, when
Drew got caught, you know, Seeampunk says, Oh yeah, Drew,
who said you were the chosen one? Who's the one
(15:20):
that you know, tell us the name of the person
that said you were the chosen one. And Drew knew
that he got got and you know, there were several
moments between all guys involved that they got one over
on the other. It was just a beautiful display of
not only trust in trusted talent, but also how good
(15:44):
things can be when you let these talented people do
what they're paid to do.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, and there was something I heard Bully Ray say
about that moment because even left guys in the business going,
this seemed pretty real and I wonder if anybody knew
what anyone was going to say, and if you know,
there's a he and this is these are his words,
not exactly I'm spitballing here, but in just it was
(16:12):
it was about how you don't leave the other person
their words are with their in their hand. And that's
what he kind of felt that cim Punk did to Drew.
But if, but if they knew about it, that's that's
not an issue. And may I'll be honest though as
a viewer not as neither one of us are in
the business. We don't climb in a ring every week.
(16:35):
I I kind of like that for Drew because it
gave him an opportunity to sink or swim if it
if it truly was something he wasn't expecting. Also knew
that he couldn't say Vince McMahon's name on raw. Then
he had to think of some way to get out
of it. And doing that sharpens sharpens your the tools
in the tool chest. And if you have a way
(16:56):
to get out of that around it, use it for
your advantage. If you don't, you look like a fool.
I didn't think he'd looked like a fool at the
end of that, but because I mean, especially when everybody
I guess it would seeing Punk that left the ring first,
and Drew was like, this isn't over. Just because you
leave isn't doesn't mean this whole thing's over. I've got
stuff to say and stuff to do. And and the
(17:17):
fact that also set the way Seth cross paths without
even looking at seem Punk there on the rampway too.
Just there's so much to be I'm glad. I was
a little iffy of why they're continuing to pull see
Him Punk back into the story when the when the
match at Mania is between Seth and Drew, but now
(17:39):
we know why, and listen. I be honest, I'm really
glad that they have much like I am with Cody
and Rock, although the match is really with Cody and
Roman because and we'll touch on this later on SmackDown.
Stuff later, but on SmackDown they've started to make sense
of the things that most of the time are just
left hanging. You know, why would the Rock attack Cody?
We we kind of know why. But it also pulled
(18:00):
it back to to Roman when the wise Man says,
do you know why he attacked him? Because it was
an order from the head of the table. This is like, oh,
you're connecting dots. We're so used to not. We have
to connect stuff ourselves in our head or go rewatch
old episodes and see where stuff ties together. There were
many things in the promos too that if you didn't
(18:21):
know what, like seeing Punk was talking about, it would
it would right over your head. And to be honest,
most of it did with me. He said that he
didn't listen to Pat McAfee's show. He's more of the
drive through type. That was a reference to why did
I just lose his name? I just lost his head? Cornette?
(18:41):
It was to Cornette's podcast because he doesn't anyway, it
was just cool how he was throwing little nuggets out there,
gave a little hint that maybe more things could be
said if they were already on Netflix, and I think
it just kind of gave us a little preluding things
to coming.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And the other thing that we're just not used to
is long term storytelling. When you think about when you
get into a real life beef with somebody, normally somebody
else is involved along with you, whether it's your best
friend or their best friend, or it's rarely just a
one v one type scenario. And what we're not used
(19:17):
to seeing from WWE is multiple people in this feud
pot at the same time. But if you really look
at it, it's highly likely we're gonna get Cody Rocket SummerSlam.
You know, it's highly likely that cm Punk is probably
gonna have more matches with Seth and matches with Drew
and whoever's got the title. And you know, we're crafting
(19:39):
a universe where everything is not linear. And we talked
about that within the last couple of weeks. This is
what real life is like, and real life and k
fabe has merged into one, and we're all better off
for it. So hats off to everybody on the WWE
side for giving us things to look forward to without
(20:03):
eclipsing what we're waiting on now.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, so true. Your thoughts on Punk Drew Seth from Monday,
chime in, drop a comment, We'll share it and discuss
here on wrestle Chat Live. Thank you for joining us
on YouTube or x or Facebook or even on Instagram.
We love that you're here. I'm going to touch on
a few things that we haven't mentioned about Raw so
far and why it was the best raw that we've
(20:27):
seen in so many years. Rock makes a surprise appearance,
crowd is high. Many times WWE would have put a
like a non thinker match, one that doesn't really have
any consequences, but no, they put Ricochet and JD McDonald.
This is an incredible match, and that's not typically where
they put a match like that. This kept the crowd
up all while still, you know, whispering about what the
(20:49):
Rock might have whispered to Cody, and then we got
the Punk Seth Drew confrontation, or the conversation as it
would be. Crowd super engayged. Then they continue this story
with Maxine Dupree which is actually you talk about being
real man. You hear from the other ladies back in
the in the locker room they love Maxine in real
(21:10):
life and love are just so impressed that she's learning
on the job in front of the world and people
attacking her. Well, now they're using that as a storyline. Interesting,
how much real they're pulling into that tag match with
DIY and draw a match on and on and on,
then ending it as hot as it started. Michael, what
am I missing that helped make this the best raw
(21:33):
in years? Was there something else in your mind?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know? I think it's just the intentionality of how
they book their shows. You know, there's a lot of
conversation on the internet right now about some organizations not
really being able to structure TV well, and what WWEE
over the last six eight months has been successfully able
(21:58):
to do is take us on an emotional ride and
knowing when we need that break and when we don't,
And when you invest an equal amount of effort into
your entire roster. This is the outcome of paying equal
attention to everybody. Yes, your titles are important, Yes your
(22:22):
upper mid card is important, but what's also important is
the female superstars of tomorrow like Maxine Dupree that is
learning on the job, that yeah, has had matches like
rough matches in front of us, but continues to handle
it with grace, respect, and maturity. This is what professional
(22:45):
you know, professional intentionality looks like. Is giving us a
front to back show that doesn't insult our intelligence, that
doesn't bore us and want us to change the channel.
The whole thing, front to back just incredible. And don't
even get me started. We'll probably talk about this more
when we get around a SmackDown, but what we've seen
(23:07):
transformatively in the tag division and then subsequently with factions
is just off the charts awesome. So long way to
answer your question, to see what's happening in the tag
division right now and then subsequently factions. We have some
of the best factions going on right now since I
(23:28):
would argue Degeneration X first version Nation of Domination all
the way back then. We have some of the best
things happening since then.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Not the current DX, the DIY DX.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Those guys are cool.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
D I why is great, but it's funny though not
modern DX. No, Yeah, I got it, okay. John Michael
is watching from Australia on Instagram. John Michael, thank you
for joining us today. Appreciate it. What time is it there?
What time is it in Australia right now? Going to
try to factor that maybe it's the exact same time.
It's just another day to add another day to it.
(24:05):
Chime in, what was it about Monday that made it
so good to you? We'll share your comments and discuss
here on the show. Listen, you know it appears that
some late night tweets from Tony Kahan are back. I'll
share that and we'll discuss when you get back here.
You go be shaking your head on the wrestle Chat podcast.
Hang on, guys, Thank you guys so much for hanging
(24:32):
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(24:55):
to that, even some surprise us to us, uh that
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hanging with you guys each and every weekend or when
the occasion calls for it. Speaking of social media, Twitter
is well, it's getting Tony Kahn in some hot water again.
So John Albert tweeted that strictly business with he and
Eric Bischoff was was going away, and Eric kind of
(25:17):
explained The reason why was that Eric's travel over the
next two or three months is erratic. John is a
very very busy man and it was a challenge to
do that and schedule that, especially when they wanted to
have guests on each and every time. And he John
announced that this next episode would be their last. And
here's how Tony responded, sun setting this fraud of a
(25:41):
business podcast before the next AEW media deal is a
wise choice, to which Eric Bischoff responded with a brand
new YouTube of him doing a podcast solo called Wise Choices.
It's really just him answering questions. But I love it,
(26:01):
and it's just him at the opportunity that he has
to jump on and go on YouTube. Michael, is it
time for Eric and Tony to have a reality show
or is it time for someone to change Tony's Twitter password?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Uh? Definitely the latter. Okay, okay, bear with me. It
is a bold, bold, bold strategy to start poking at
somebody like Eric Bischoff. Yes, was he at the helm
(26:33):
as WCW went under? Yes, But Eric Bischoff is also
the only person in all of history that can say
they got over or got one over on Vince McMahon
for over a year. WCW murdered WWF at the time
(26:58):
in writing, and Eric Bischoff is no scrub. Eric Bischoff
is a very, very smart businessman, and if anything, it
should be the fact that Eric was in charge of
a company that went under is still a reason why
you should listen to him, because either he's a case
(27:19):
study of what you should do or what you should
not do, and in his case, he's both. He'll tell
you don't give inflated contracts with guarantees to superstars because
it'll come back to bite you in the butt.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You know, we have.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know, the the you know. Tony wants to you know,
to go biblical on it, wants to complain about the
speck and Eric Bischoff's eye while Tony's got a plank
in his because what Tony does not realize is he
is following the exact same trajectory of w CW. Here
(28:00):
within the last few months, I mentioned that when we
were talking about AEW, probably the last time we did that,
in the year twenty twenty three, AEW lost something upwards
of fifty million dollars in financial losses versus their income.
That's the same thing that was happening to WCW. WCW's
(28:21):
last full year was a loss of sixty million. And
the fact that also Eric Bischoff came to WWE and
had such an incredible run not only creatively but as
an on screen character as a general manager. This is
a guy that you want to listen to. And I
apologize for, you know, using some pointed language, but Tony
(28:45):
is just acting like a petulant child when it comes
to somebody like Eric Bischoff. And I'm not saying that
Eric Bischoff is the end all be all, but boy,
you're taking a dump on a significant amount of industry
wiz them and experience. And then when you when you
literally just say on Twitter, hey, I'm glad this show
(29:08):
is shutting down because they're critical of me, and now
the critical things they're going to say will allow me
to get a better TV deal. What does that say
about you? Take it from me, I want to say
more stupid stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I just I wonder what the what people at Warner
Brothers Discovery think about Tony's tweets and that all By
the way, that also happened at like three point fifty
in the morning. Man. Jade Cargill's appearance on SmackDown was
more than just a planned promo. It was a It
was a statement. Her alliance with Bianca and Naomi at
(29:46):
the end of the show is a game changer. This
new team is poised to wreak havoc in the best
possible way. I love the promo at the beginning felt
really stiff. Here's some lines. Go read these and I'm like, oh,
is that all work? Getting really from Jade? Her first
appearance on Spackdown, that's it? And what are you wearing?
And then you come back at the end of the
(30:07):
show and she gets in and does what she does
best in the ring now with some credible training. Man,
how'd you feel about this? Michael Holy cow Man?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, one word presentation, presentation, wwe nailed this. Okay, she
comes in, they announce her signing, big deal. Great, Now
we're gonna put you off to the side for a
little while. It feels weird. Trust Us created anticipation, and
(30:40):
there were some very subtle things in her two appearances
on SmackDown that I have to point out. First of all,
you know there might be an echo in here. What
was she wearing? That's neither here nor there. But she
came out, yeah, a little stiff. It was planned, definitely rehearsed.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I didn't hate it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It was still deliver well. Was mad about it. I
knew there had to be more, though, I would say
the single most pivotal moment was when she came back
out the second time. And here's why people are getting
beat up in the ring music hits. She comes out.
(31:20):
Whoever instructed her on this moment is an absolute genius
because she walks out and she takes her time. Her
walk to the ring is both intentional, it is calculated,
and it conveys the message of who she is, which
(31:40):
is I don't need to run in there. Because whether
I run, walk, jog, or am carried to the ring.
The outcome when I get there is the same and
that's I'm going to clear all of you out. I'm
going to beat you guys up and I'm going to
end and what you guys have started. Her confidence, her look,
(32:05):
her attitude has made her a superstar after last night
as great as she was before. WWE has capitalized on
everything that she is and we have just a massive
talent for the next decade that has arrived in the WWE.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Did you see Mercedes Monee and her her when she
came into aaw just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Afterwards, if that tells you anything.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So, she came out at the beginning, she did her
thing at the beginning, then she came out and got
into action at the end. A lot of people critical
of what happened to that. I feel almost like this
was an answer of like, hey, we're going to show
you how to do it real quick with a superstar
that's not as big as Mercedes Monee. Whether if they
had a parallel or it didn't, it was just kind
of interesting to see something that was very similar but
(32:59):
done so much, so much better. It's really what you know,
not w W shills, but I mean, you see it
and you go, okay, Well there's the difference. Look look
at how they did this, but also it was kind
of rem of this it and I even tweeter or
text you during the show and it's like Bobby heenan.
But which side is she on? And that's what when
(33:19):
she comes out slow like that, who's she coming out
to side with? Is she a new member of Damage
Control or is she uh you know, because they kick
somebody out, they kick Bailey out, they have a new
one with with Jade or is she going to team
up with Bianca? And no, we we got the answer
there on that one. It's WrestleMania week, y'all. Let's go.
If you're going to be there, let's connect dm us
(33:42):
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it sometime. This show will be live from Philly next
week with a full list of predictions. More importantly, we
want to get yours, so join us next weekend when
(34:03):
we go live and join in on the chat here
on the wrestle Chat podcast. So I'm missing anything, Michael.
I know there's plenty that we could continue talking about
anything that we need to hit it. It was this
is massive.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This could be an all day show if we wanted
it to be. But I think we hit the highlights.
But all that to say is just super stoked about
this mania. It's going to be the biggest ever, greatest
wrestle Mania of all time, or at least today.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
We thank you guys for hanging out for Michael Glavin.
I'm the ant Man and we'll see you next week.
You're on the wrestle Chat podcast.
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