February 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Welcome to the final episode of Wrestling with Friends for this season! Join us as we discuss the Super Bowl, reminisce about favorite WrestleMania moments, and dive deep into fan questions. Whether it's debating fantasy WWE and AEW trades, predicting who will dethrone Cody Rhodes, and the suggestions you guys gave for my wrestling federation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now You're mad, even introducing ghosts Wrestling Wind for Ready Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Died and for Ready Friends Junior. What's up, everybody? Welcome
to the final episode this season of Wrestling with Friends.
Mister Jeff dies here and if you get to see
the little clips that we post on social media, he's
looking like Seamus right when they hit him with the spotlight.
(00:29):
The sun is bright in Sherman Oaks. Let me tell
you send him my way. Man, it looks like he's
in a freaking rain over here. Anyway, Welcome to the show, everybody.
I've been cracking up while Jeff tries to fix the
glaring sun that's blasting through his window and it hasn't
been going well. And we'll leave it at that. But
(00:50):
we had the super Bowl on Sunday. I had one
buddy who had two buddies who actually got to go
to the Super Bowl and watch the bud Whoopin' that
took place. I'm a Raiders fan, so fuck both those teams.
To be honest, Jeff, did you watch the Super Bowl?
Did Jeff fund?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I watched Super Bowl at a friend's house. The right
team won. I'm not like a huge Eagles fan or anything.
It's just when a team that hasn't won a super
Bowl in my memory wins, I get happy for them.
I'm like, good for good for the Chiefs that they
won a super Bowl. And then when that same team
wins two years in a row, I go, all right,
we're getting a little greedy. And then if they try
(01:28):
to win three times in a row, I go, They're
not an underdog that I want to root for anymore. Now,
this is just some unless it's my team. If it's
my team, I want them to win ten times in
a row. But I didn't want to see the Chiefs
win three years in a row, and so you know,
it's not fun to watch. So I was rooting for
the Eagles, happy about that, even though the game was boring.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's a very consistent opinion for you because you prefer
Cody Rhodes's story to the title then post titles, so
you do like an underdog in a story, and that's
consistent and I like that. Have you ever been to
a Super Bowl? Freddy? Uh No, I don't think so.
I've been to a World Series. I've been to WrestleMania.
(02:10):
I don't really watch hockey, so I've only been to
like a random game, like a King's game. But it
was fun to go to a Kings game like an
actual hockey game. I guess a lot of people who
don't like wrestling, if they go to an actual like event,
they really like it. That was hockey for me. But
I haven't been to their finals, and uh, I think
that's I've never been to the Olympics. No super Bowl,
(02:31):
but Sarah's been to like three super Bowls. She almost
went to this one too. Yeah. Yeah, my buddy McCauley went. Uh,
you guys know mcaulay culkin. He's big wrestling head. He
went to the Super Bowl this year and missed fucking
game night, which is bullshit, No for real, mass shit
makes me mad, But I hope he had fun. And uh,
and my buddy Rio was out there in uh in
(02:53):
New Orleans. I made a movie down there. I like that. Yeah.
Rio is a good dude, man. Riol's a really good
I love that city though. So if anybody in New
Orleans is listening, I got nothing belove for you, baby.
Let me share this super Bowl story with you guys.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, when the Seattle Seahawks played the Denver Broncos in
New York for the Super Bowl. I went and sat
front row.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No way.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
This is me and the confetti of the Super Bowl
when the Seattle Seahawks won.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And let me just tell you what jersey is. That?
What jersey is.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Marshaun Lynch, the star team who should have been the
MVP two years in a row. Now you think, all
my friends in Seattle, all my friends in Los Angeles,
all my friends around the world, see me on Instagram
and go look at Jeff Die living his best life.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He's got money now, he has a career.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now he got to be in the front row when
the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let me tell you it isn't better. I was. I
spent a ton of money. I was cold.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I only got to be with like one of my friends.
All my friends that are like envying me. They're at
their house with forty of my other friends, jumping around,
hugging each other, loving that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
It wasn't worth bragging that I went to the Super
Bowl and spent all this money. It's better to be
(04:17):
with the ones you love and just enjoy. Sure, I went,
Who cares? They got to be like they spent zero dollars.
They got to eat all these snacks and treats and
drink and they got to be together. It's much much
much better to just enjoy the game on television.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Let me tell you, I thought it was gonna be
happy story. It means everybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, it means like you don't have to like think,
you think to yourself when you look at Instagram, Oh,
it must be better to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It isn't it's better picture.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well that's that's the only part I get out of it,
is that I get to brag that I went to
this thing.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But who cares. We got to grow out of that
bragging crap. Well, we win to a friend's house. All
our kids are friends and uh my son is friends
with their with their kids. My daughter just knows them,
but they all love my daughter. She's cool chie. So
my daughter and I got into two eighty Z and
we cruised to the valley to their new house. Their
house burnt in the in the Palisades fire, So this
(05:18):
was kind of them saying, hey, please come and check
us out at our new house. They already got a
new house. That was a fast transition. Well, they're renting,
they're they're they're renting a house and uh, so we
went over there. I went in and I was meeting
new people, which is always awkward, and uh one of
the moms brought nachos and she had some nachos there
(05:38):
and nobody was touching the nachos. And I was like, well,
I'll be a nice guy, man, you know, I'm trying
to watch what I eat. But I didn't want her
to be bummed. And so I go and I one
of the guys that I met is walking over at
the same time, but he's going for some pretzels and
I grabbed some nachos off the plate and I eat him.
And this dude I just met this dude and he goes, hey, man,
(05:59):
did you you want these? And he offers me some
tongs and I'm like, oh, bro, like come on, man,
that's how you're gonna do me? Like I just met
you and you just put your hand in the pretzel
bowl like what's going on? Like this is how we're
gonna like get off? And I was like, oh my man,
I didn't even see that. I'm real real sorry. I'll
make sure to use it next time for you. And
(06:20):
he was like okay, okay, and he said it down.
I was like, well, we're not gonna be bro, that's
impossible for this, And now you do that to someone
you just met. Man like he saw how careful I was.
I grabbed a chip. I didn't even want any KNATCHO.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I would have I would have just double I would
have over corrected. I'd have been like, oh, you're right,
you're right, Well yeah, next time, next time, but nah, sanitizer?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do you want some hand sanitizer? I noticed you're buying
the food table. My man literally went in the pretzel
bowl and then tried to germ shame me, but uh
but I uh, I took it in stride. That's why
I never go out ever, and I never want to
meet new people. But party, we still had fun. We
had a good time to watch Super Bowl. I want
a little more from the Kendrick Lamar halftime show. Uh.
(07:03):
To be honest, I definitely wanted more. I didn't think
it was his best stuff. But I think he's about
to go on tour. So he was like, man, this
is a rehearsal for when I go on tour this
this summer and then do my thing. Well, it's not
like they pay him all that much to do that.
They don't pay him anything, you know, they make sense
for the halftime show. Yeah, so I don't get too
mad at him if they're like, yeah, you know what,
(07:24):
I'm just gonna make sure my dancers get paid and
I'll take it out of my own pocket and get
the exposure and we'll rehearse. It'll be a dress reexposure.
What a silly word. That word ever, I will say this,
though I liked the halftime show, I thought it was great.
I thought it was I thought it was entertaining. I
didn't understand Sam Jackson's character during it. What was he
(07:46):
Was he playing the guy from Django Unchained or something?
What was he doing? You know? It wasn't you know
how like in rap records in the nineties they had
like skits. I get the skit.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I didn't get the character. It's like, why did they
do this? What's the message? Some sort of anti American
like we don't like that?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, people get pissed off at hip hop. Everyone loves
hip hop. We all like it. If you thinking of like
and talk shit about hop. No, the hip hop everyone's
comfortable with. But like a lot of the Kendrick lyrics
come under a lot of criticism, a lot of criticism
still to this we must live in different worlds.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't know anyone who would even have the balls
to say they don't like hip hop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We got dementals. It wasn't even until like it was
nineteen sixty or nineteen. I think it was nineteen sixty
when you could like do drugs and have sex in
movies like that was illegal to do it before that.
So some people just trip and hold on for a
very long time, and some people hold on too long.
And some people that you know are super chilled and
actually dig hip hop, and I guess is fucking good. Yeah,
(08:49):
he's what you just named was sixty five years ago. Yeah,
there's a lot of people that wish we could go
back to those times.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Man, I don't know anybody it's eighty years old. Watch
in the Super Bowl going, what's with this hippie toppy?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What is the hippie hoppy? Who is this guy? Exactly exactly.
They're getting upset and they want to be hurt. They're
tired of being ignored the retired portion of our population.
They're tired. Well, I agree, they should do old man
skits in hip hop. Records. Actually, that would be remember
the one in the ice cube one where the guy
(09:25):
he's like doing that. He's got this guy in a
dentist chair and he's like, I don't know that. All right,
all right, buddy, just sit back in the chair here
and fix your teeth. And the guy's like, oh, okay,
you can fix my teeth. He's like, yeah, this laid back,
got some novacaine here and brace yourself. And all of
a sudden, you just hear a real gunshot. Shit like
made everybody in my cort jump because I had like
(09:47):
a six stereo system. It was fucking great. That's when
I started loving sketches and hip hop records. But anyway,
it's our final episode of the season, you guys, and
because you guys are awesome and you listen to us,
even when we talk about hip hop, and even when
we argue about the decency of people, you guys still
show us love. So we're gonna be back for season five,
(10:07):
and you're gonna come back just in time for WrestleMania. Jeff,
how's the weekend? Bro? How was good? I already asked
you how super Bowl was? But how was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I was in Denver, did some shows at the Bug Theater,
which was really nice, and then got to hanging out
with my buddy Josh Nelson. Shout out to him and
my buddy Brent Tobler's shout out to him.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Didn't I meet Josh? Yeah yeah that Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
He was really nice.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then came home in time to catch Super Bowl.
So it's a very chill weekend, but it was great
and Denver was cold.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know, I don't think Josh would trip on me
for the Nacho full pop, but part of my friends would. Yeah,
we don't care. Alex, please take over and drive the cart.
I got you, I got I got a couple of
questions here.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm gonna let everyone know who asked it, and I'm
gonna ask tell it to you. You guys, answer your the
best you can. This first one's coming up from Rainbow Goodness.
Reddie and Jeff gave me three AEW talents you would
love to see in WWE and three WWE talents you
would love to see in ae W.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh wait, we gotta switch them over. Yeah, we gotta
trade three for three. Let's do this together. If you want,
We'll come up with three together.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I will say that it's hard because we're currently in
a a in a time period which everything changes where
WB is definitely winning the battle, So be hard to
move guys from WB to ae W at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But let's that'll be the challenge. But we'll just come
up with three combined and that'll make it a little
bit easier, all right. First off, I can do the
first one. I would love to see Will Hobbs with
the WWE power behind him, to see what WWE has
done with Penta, who was really underbooked. I don't know
(11:56):
if that's a term I'm just creating it now or
or it's just out a word, but you guys know
what I'm trying to say, you're right underutilized, under booked, underutilized,
under booked. And to see what they've done with him
in just like three short weeks is a night and
day as far as how the perception of someone is right.
We have a perception that changes when we look at
(12:16):
everyone else's perception. We gain perspective, and I think now
everybody can kind of have a stronger perspective on the
talent that Penta has because we've seen two different sides
of it. Now. So I'd like to see them try
that with someone like Roy Hobbs, who could like pick
up anybody and just throw him out of the ring.
He'd probably throw me four rows deep like Hogan did
Rocky Baba and Rocky three. I'd like to see. I'd
(12:38):
like to see him. You want to see me get
thrown out of the rocking ring? Awesome, I'd like to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'd say, I got to go with my boy, and
you got thrown four rows.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Thanks, I'll be hurt and injured, so you go now,
and then I'll try to come up with a third one.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Uh. My prediction is sorry, my my move is also
a prediction. I believe that MJF is going to come
to WWE now. I also wonder if MJF will shine
as brightly in WWE. I know that he's got all
the chops and talent and words and mic work and
(13:16):
muscles and ability, and in rank performance, he lacks size.
He's not a very tall big guy, and I wonder
if maybe that's what keeps him comfy over in AEW
is the lack of height. But I would love to
see if he could be a gigantic star over in
(13:37):
WB and I mean, Cody Rhodes, at least from my perspective,
was just searching to be a big star for so long,
and now it's finally happened. I couldn't have predicted how
big Cody Rhods would get in WWE.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I would have never foresaw that.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So I wonder if MJF watches that and goes, hmmm,
I wonder if that could be me over Like, I'm
much more talented, in Jeff's opinion than Cody Rhodes, so
maybe you know, maybe he thinks, hey, that should be
me over there.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I like your speculations, sir. I like it very much,
all right. I think for the final one that I'd
like to see, And this is more because I can't
think of the way to do it off the top
of my head. And remember all these questions, I'm not
pre reading these. I didn't even know which ones we
were doing. I was reading the wrong one, so so
(14:33):
bear with me on this. But I think I would
try to see what they could do with Orange Cassidy,
because I have no idea how they would book him,
and I think that would be the challenge that I
would present them, right Like, if I'm Orange Cassidy, and
they're like, yo, we dig you man, your contracts up.
You should come over here. He should like put it
back on them and be like, like most artists should, Well,
(14:56):
what's the plan? Show like you, what are you going
to do? Because I'd be interested to see what their
vision of him is, because to me, he's such an
aw guy that I can't initially see him in WWE
getting a push that would be equal to the push
he's received in AEW But I'd be damn interested to
see what they could do. They took Jay Usso from
(15:18):
a tag team guy that was way overlooked and they were,
you know, mid card to headlining WrestleMania soon, so they
can do something with Orange Cassidy. How's that, Alex? Are
you satisfied with that answer?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I actually let me interrupt real quick. Go ahead, you
got a fourth. Well, here's the thing I disagree with you.
Oh and I'm gonna I've said a lot of controversial
things on this podcast. I'm about to say the most
controversial thing on this podcast that I've ever said. Okay, what,
I don't want to see Orange Cassidy anywhere except like
(15:51):
house shows. I think the first time you see Orange Cassidy,
it's the funniest, coolest thing you've ever seen. And then
the second time you see see Orange Cassidy, you nudge
your buddy and go, oh, this is great. Watch this,
You're gonna love this. And then the third time you
see Orange Cassidy, you go big whoop. The fourth time
you see it, you go, I don't care anymore, the
fifth I just don't care anymore. So I wouldn't want
(16:14):
to see Orange Cassidy really anywhere. So I totally pick away.
I totally ok. I totally disagree with you. I was
the complete opposite on that. When I first saw him,
I didn't get him. I didn't want to get him.
I thought it was hokey.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But I thought the same thing with Babe when I
first saw Adam Cole, and then eventually I came around,
and then eventually I was like, dude, that I'm cold
sick on the mic. And that's kind of how it
hit with Orange Cassidy. It started off where I was like,
what is he doing? Man? What's with these soft fake kicks?
Like why is he doing that? And now when I
watch it, I'm like, Yo, that's math funny. I gotta
show my friends this.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Well, there's a difference between music and jokes, right, Like
when you go see Credence, you want to hear all
the hits you like to re You like to hear music,
and wrestlers are musicians. You want to see them wrestle.
You want to see the music. But with like comedy, right,
you better you can't hear the same joke over and over.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We got to have new jokes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And I think that Orange Cassidy's a he's a comedian,
he's a joke. So it's like, I've seen the joke.
I get the joke. What else do you got? I
want to see more music and less less joke.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I get it. I think he has a pretty good
balance of it. It's it's real limited. When he does
he just does it. Wants a match, And the sunglasses
thing is cool as shit. I don't care what anybody says.
This ship is just badass. When the pulls them out
of the referees pocket or puts them in your pocket,
that's just fucking cool. He's like small, I know, but
raymis Teradio is small and I love Ray and Sean
(17:40):
Michael's as small as hell, and I love Sean Michaels.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I feel like he's doing like a Johnny Cage meets
some sort of comedic.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I like it. I'm fine with it, but I just
i've seen you just don't want to see it on
w Doug what else you got? Well, now you're throwing me.
You know what I want to see. I want to
see Mercedes Monday go back to w W too. That's
that's the one I would trade back. I don't. I
haven't clicked with a single story they've done. And I
think she's way cooler than how she's been portrayed. I
(18:12):
think she's worthy of better stories than she's been given.
And uh, that's what I know you agree with, so
we can vetoed me Bro. I want her to get over.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It doesn't mean, you know, sometimes you see a wrestler
not getting any response from the audience and and you
like it make you go good, I'm glad that that
good person's not over or whatever. I don't enjoy watching
her not get over. I I like I like her
when she's a star.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's weird to hear an audience not be screaming her
name or booing and cussing her name, and it's it
has always been one or the other, and it's it's
not right now, and I don't I don't dig that,
So there, boom, there you go.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The next one was coming from Peter Surrs and he
says who ultimately dethrones Cody Man.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I was ung on this. I thought he would have
a little back and forth, but he's their new Sena,
and it's really hard to bet against Sena unless there's
an orton there to kind of go back and forth with.
And I guess there can only be one of those,
so it has to be Roman, right, But is Roman
going to be a full timer and carry that weight
(19:20):
all over again or is he going to try to
make movies. So right now, I'm gonna say this isn't.
I don't mean this as a cop out Nobody. He's
the new face, he's the new brand. I don't think
he's gonna lose it for a really long time. He's
gonna win WrestleMania and probably not lose it again until
the next WrestleMania. So I think they'll find ways to
(19:43):
do stories the way they have the Kevin Owens thing,
Cody went from having no story to a really cool
one with Kevin Owens. So they can do it. But yeah,
I'm gonna say zero people. What about you, dude, I
that's tricky.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I do think anybody that I could see taking it
away from Cody is already kind of too famous and
in a way moving on or at least becoming kind
of part time, like the Ramins and the Scenas, Like
they're kind of all moved on, right, And I don't
see anybody. This is another kind of mean but controversial
(20:19):
thing to say, is that, like, I'm not that excited
about Jay Usso and Goonther, like that does nothing. I
think Jays all those guys, I like all the rest
of us, But that doesn't that's not a WrestleMania story
to me, Goonther and jay Uso and.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So it's not as big a title as Cody's title.
I'm also not.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
A seth guy, Like, I don't think he's gonna be
as big as like a Sena or any of these
guys used to be. So for I, I some I
definitely agree with you, Like, I don't know who could
take it from Cody. My only guess would be it's
gonna be one of these next guys who will slowly
become the face like a bron Breaker.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Or a La Knight.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I'm still hold on hope to l a Knight, one
of these kind of next guys who will transcend into
the face of the of the industry.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Jef, what do you think about Brown Breaker winning the
Royal Rumble next year? And then I was one, Yeah, dude,
I could see that a star, like just a star. Yeah,
I get that. I heard he works Matt hard to backstage,
like on his promos and stuff like that. I heard
his work ethic is like top shelf. All right, that's
(21:29):
that's good. Well, we disagree on a lot of stuff, man,
but uh, I still love you, Bro.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Not Orange Cassidy. I don't see him dethroning Cody.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We disagree on SETH two. I think that's the ment.
But I hear you, dude. It just makes me cry
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
This next one was coming from NERD David Freddy. Out
of all the characters you played on screen, which one
would you like to play again? But in the world
of pro wrestling, your movies would make the best pro
wrestling storyline.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Man, that's tough, man, because like there's I know what
you did is the easy answer, right, But if you
think about it. Raised not like the best fighter. He
gets like one shouted by Ryan's character. I don't remember
his name, sorry, and he kind of gets beat up
by the fishermen. I don't remember his name, sorry, And
(22:24):
uh it's over twenty years ago, man, laughing at your career,
and you go, you lucky. I remember my guy's name.
I only do because I'm actively shooting the sequel to
it right now. Otherwise that have been like from Mark Brian,
Ryan Ray. It's right. So I don't think that's the one.
And I can't do the cartoons because that's cheating. That
(22:47):
would be that Jedi that I played in the Star
Wars cartoon thing, and that counts. I think it counts.
But it's not a movie, he said, movies, bro, So
I'm gonna go with the movie that nobody saw. Well,
that like a few people saw because the Star Wars
trailer was attached to it. But it was called Wing
Commander and this dude his name that sucks. I don't
(23:09):
remember his name either, but he was like he had
this like power to like chart his way through space
without a computer, without a NavCom right, and he had
an AK forty seven that was modified to look all futuristic,
and he shot fools with it, So he would probably
be the best guy to come in for me in
the wrestling world and win. I'm not trying to just
(23:30):
lose all the time. I'm not trying to be a jobber.
I'm trying to beat a champ. So I think that
guy would have the best shot. But man, I can't
remember his name. That sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
What about the character you played where you killed that
hot young chick and put her in a pool bin.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh the girl in the pool man, he was a
bitch bro like, he made soft decisions the whole storyline.
You know, you'd be a pretty good heel. You know,
be a good storyline, that's for sure. You'd love to
see him get his ass beat. That's yeah, that's a
good idea, Jeff, that's good.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This next one, I hope I'll mess this up. Is
coming from Cartik Merchra. Yeah, hey, Freddy, love your show.
It's always a great listen prior to my boxing training
on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh hell yeah. Here's my question. What are your thoughts
on AJ styles?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
WW Championship runs in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen with Max
and Sina and Do you see him having a bright
moment soon again.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I remember it well because that was when he built
the house that he built, which was SmackDown, and he
had great championship matches against those guys. AJ's a lot older,
so I think the story with AJ is like the
Jimmy Connors Wimbledon story in the late eighties early nineties,
where he was basically retired and no one gave him
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any credit, Like he wasn't even ranked in at the
Wimbledon tournament. And he wins his first match. Oh, that's
a nice story. He's in his forties, man, it's it's cute.
He got one more and then he won his next
match and everyone was like, god, damn, Jimmy Connors won
another fucking matchup, wimbled in. Oh, well, this next guy's
ranked like number thirteen, so he's fucking smoke him. And
then all of a sudden, Jimmy Connors put it on
(25:12):
his ass too, and they're like, hold the fuck on
is Jimmy Connor is gonna go to the quarterfinals. It
fucking wimbled it, and eventually everyone bought into this story.
And then right when when America was behind him, you know,
the age caught up to him and it was just
too many matches in too many days, and Jimmy Connors
couldn't win the Wimbledon title that everyone you know thought
he was gonna. So I think that could be a
(25:33):
really cool story for AJ Styles. The only reason I
think that might not happen is because I think that's
gonna be the John Cena story, which is he keeps
saying the championship seventeen seventeen, so I can hand it
to the man that gets eighteen. And to have that,
I think seene as at a point in his career
where there's where he wants that tragic kind of ending
instead of like the hero's ending, because he was the
(25:54):
hero for so long and he's changed a lot since
I worked there. So that's why I think he sees
he's like a cooler, unique story and so I think
that might be his storyline where he loses a big
match at WrestleMania and the other dude and the other
dude wins. So I don't know about Agent, but I
think maybe you could give him something like that because
(26:14):
I think this is his final, like probably his last contract.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What about you, Jeff, I had hoped that AJ Styles
would be the he's the right age to be the
next guy. As far as what we were just talking about,
how I was saying, like, who's the next Sena, Who's
the next Roman reigns? And I think I thought aj
Styles was on track to be that kind of guy
(26:38):
who just was no matter what you knew, he was
going to win. I don't I'm not good at predicting
these type of things, but I wouldn't mind seeing him
dethrone Cody. I think that that's maybe a guy I
wasn't thinking of a second ago when I when I said.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That, I think a gas match.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
He's so worthy and I think he's paid his dues.
Remember how much we want wanted him to come over
to WWE for so long and and then we got him,
and he was getting pushed for you know, years and years.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But I don't know. I don't think he's done.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So I think there's hope for sure, and I'd love
to see him get that big uh that big push.
I don't I'm not going to predict if it's gonna happen,
but I'd like to see it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We blew that trivia question back in the day that
Alex asked us on the Phenomenal one, and I went
to Fiam and said taker and of course it was
aj Styles.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All right, Alex. Next, this is coming from Hank Nizzle.
How did you and Jeff meet? What's the story with
how Jeff joined the podcast? The podcast is definitely better
with him. I feel like you did this with your burner,
Jeff love the pro Freddy Prince sound effects too. I'm
assuming that means when you're like body slamming people and
talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh those are those are top shelf sound effects man,
that's like Michael Winslow's son. That's that's basically me. Mexicans, Loved.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I know you're Puerto Rican, but Mexicans, you know, are
always speaking with their sounds. You know, half half of
his act, half of Fluffy's act is noises. You know,
half of the language is whistling, you know, so I think.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's in George Lopez has done that. I've heard of
Latin that. My dad even did that. You do the
whole do the whistle. That was a good try.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
H we met because he was a guest on my podcast,
the Jeff Dive Friendship Podcast. We had a mutual friend
Josh Wolf, and I'm I'm a fan of Freddy the
same way everyone else is. And then so I was like, oh, dude,
I'd love to have Freddy on my podcast. And Josh
is like, dude, I know you and I know Freddy.
You guys would be great friends. And so I was like,
(28:56):
if you could set that up, that'd be awesome. And
then I like to use this term, we fell into friendship.
You know, the second I met Freddy, I was like,
I love this guy. To hang out with him anytime
I feel like, you know, you fall in love. I
fell into friendship with Freddy. And then we just kept
going back and forth talking about wrestling on our phones,
and then.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We and now we're bros for life. Deal with it, America.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This next one is from Ian Kennedy. Good Day, Freddy
and Jeff. I listened to the podcast weekly. My son
and I are off to Brisbane tomorrow to attend ae
W Grand Slam. Hell yeah, we went to Perth for
the Elimination Chamber. Have you thought about running the Freederation
in Australia. There's a large independent wrestling scene here. Last December,
our local show in Canberra, Slam Wrestling had over two
(29:46):
thousand people. Attend rage in the cage.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's h First of all, I love Australia, man. I've
worked there a bunch. We did the first Scooby movie
there and we basically lived there for six months. That's
how long it took the film movies back then. And
I've been to Brisbane and had a lot of fun there.
I've been to Sydney, had a lot of fun there.
We filmed in the Gold Coast, had a lot of
fun there, but that was more like old people. So
it was like like old school casinos where people were
(30:11):
playing bingo and lots of golf. And I'm not into
golf or bingos, so that quite wasn't quite my town.
But I loved Sydney and Melbourne. I've never been to,
but my wife's been there a bunch. My wife's even
dove the freaking Barrier reef in the nineties. Man, like
back in the day. She's a hard my wife more
artcore than people realize. Man. She'd be jumping out of
planes and shit if the family would let her. But anyway,
(30:33):
I talked to a stunt guy when I was shooting
I know you did last summer down there, and he
was talking to me about wrestling. He was like, dude,
I listen, May I listened to your podcast. I was like,
fucking in Australia, that's badass, man. And he was talking
about Big Wrestling Head and he was saying the same thing,
and him and I were kind of fantasizing about what
a wrestling federation would look like in Australia, and I
(30:54):
basically came to the conclusion where it was like, Yo,
what if I could like like Braveheart where he's like
talking to Angus McFadden's character and he's like, unite us,
Unite the clans, Unite the klans, And that's what we
came to. It was like, we got to get all
the indie feds, unite them all, bring it all under
one roof, and have that be the traveling one so
you can just combine all their fans into one. And
(31:15):
I was like, man, if I actually live down here,
that would be an achievable dream. But living in Australia
is just not an achievable dream for me. In general.
I like being in America. This is cool ass country too.
Australia's badass. I love working there, but I love being home.
So yeah, so it just wasn't a reality at the
end of the day, and I wouldn't want to do
it remotely because that's a one foot in kind of thing. Man,
(31:38):
that's sort of a bitch move and that I can't.
I can't do that. I'm all in or I'm all out.
So yeah, I really love that question, and I would
love to unite the clans, but brave Heart, I am not.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, it's kind of tough to move your family and
everything to a whole different country.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
To chase my dream. We got listener reviews. Jeff, do
do do? Do?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Do do?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
For this first one? This first one's from a Mark Underscore. Sorry,
I didn't mean to mess up your name, bro Underscore
a Mark and the subject is Seth Rollins would be
furious and this fool gave us a five star review.
Uh so you know it's money. Uh here we go.
(32:20):
Does anyone remember when Seth Freaking Rollins. I love that
he used the freaking in there, when Seth Freaking Rollins
would talk about how the WWE needs a real champion,
not someone who's a part timer like Rogan. Rogan Roman,
we miss you, Jeff. I want to acknowledge you, but
you're busy being a part timer. Bro, he thought you
a part timer, but he loves you anyway. What's your
(32:43):
response to a Mark dude?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
First of all, a Mark, thank you for the kind
words before you dunked on me.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I do love you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Uh. Well, you know what, guess who's a part timer
in pro wrestling?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The rock?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And do you get disappointed when he shows up? You
don't you go, oh my gosh, the rocks here. You
don't cry about all the times the rocks not there.
I'm doing my best. What it is is I've never
had success before, you know, so then with this six,
this new success, I'm managing it terribly. I'll go to
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the airport and then they'll be like, oh, your flight's
delayed seven hours, and so then I've got to just
miss an episode. So I'm doing my best. I am
as committed as I can be. I love you and
uh and I'm trying my best. I second that emotion.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
A second that emotion. And he would always be here,
but a lot of times he's stuck circling the burbanker. Yeah,
it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That's such a stressful feeling too, because you can't text
when you're in the air. Like they they all these
airplanes say they offer Wi Fi. It's the worst Wi
Fi in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know, the only WiFi that works. And nobody ever
gets to fly this airline because they only go like
one or two places. Hawaiian airlines really best. Why do
I fly a lot of frigging airplanes? I just flew
Kuanas Quantas was pretty solid, but there's a dead patch
because you're going over the middle of nothing. Right, Hawaiian
airlines from La to and it also goes all the
(34:12):
way to Atlanta. I think sometimes to Hawaii is five
star Internet. It's just best, the best flight attendance, the
coolest captains. They talk to you. They don't you don't
miss shit. They're like, yo, there's whales. Check it out.
You're like, oh shit, there's well, Like they're so cool man,
I'll freaking love Hawaii. And their seats are comfortable, and
if you pay for first class, you don't get like
(34:33):
screwed on a seat that is like just like one
inch bigger, Like they're actually bigger seats, so you'll see
like big dudes and basketball players sitting up there and
they're like actually comfortable instead of like squished up, like
we're taking my family to Hawaii because we didn't make
the playoffs. It's always better that way. So yeah, so
they have good Internet. Thank you for the review, underscore
(34:54):
a mark and we appreciate you. Next up, Oh, this
is a great name, Anxious Flamingo. Anxious Flamingo's given us
five stars and the subject is the name of our show.
And here's the review. My favorite podcast to start the day.
Freddie and Jeff seem like good dudes. We are good dudes.
Both are big wrestling fans who keep their opinions honest,
(35:16):
but in a positive way. Freddie's behind the scenes of
when he worked in WWE is a cool feature that
leads to some six side quests. That's funny that you
said the way I would say it. Just comedic background
leads to some good laughs. It feels like I'm hanging
out with friends talking wrestling. I've had a hard time
getting oh whoa wait a minute, I've had a hard
time getting into WWE, so some episodes I'm just here
(35:40):
for the ride more aew would be awesome if you
have to appeal to the masses or just aren't as
big of aw fans, I get it. I'm just as
interested in hanging out and hearing how life is going
for y'all. Look forward to the new season. Take care yo,
that's nice, Anxious Flamingo. I totally hear you. If you
were listening to us last year, you heard a lot
(36:01):
more ae W. And then we got a user uh,
a listener review that said, hey man, all you're doing
is talk about AW. You hit us with some WWE,
and so I try to take people's critiques and criticisms
to heart and UH and implement that kind of stuff.
So we have been talking more w w E. The
only reason we haven't been talking as much AEW lately
(36:23):
is because I don't feel that they've been focused that
much on the character stories outside of like Ricochet and
Swerve and maybe one other, whereas ww's got like five
stories a week that it can hit you with. UH,
So we've been speaking about them a little bit less
just because I can't. I can't tell you how match was, Like,
I'm not a wrestler, I'm not an anything, Like, what
(36:46):
what the fuck do you want to know that for?
I can comment more on like the stories and the
promos and and that that kind of stuff, But Uh,
but I appreciate you and if we can get more
AW in there, we will. Jeff, what do you think, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It's tough, Like I think that you know, we go
in in and out the way that the wrestling brands
go in and out. So it's like, you know, when wb'
is the most popular thing on the market, like we
kind of tend to talk about that more. And when
AW is popping, then we like to talk about aw Moore.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
But we you know, we will do.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Wherever Alex, our fearless leader, guides us.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, blame Alex. Yeah, the best way to go. Stay
tuned for Unsanctioned Thursdays. You guys were going to get
into more of your questions. It will be our final
final episode of the season, but this was our final
episode of the regular airing Wrestling with Friends on behalf
of Jeff Die and are Awesome producer Alex. We wish
all of you a wonderful, wonderful time off as well.
(37:44):
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Now You're mad, even introducing ghosts Wrestling Wind for Ready Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Died and for Ready Friends Junior. What's up, everybody? Welcome
to the final episode this season of Wrestling with Friends.
Mister Jeff dies here and if you get to see
the little clips that we post on social media, he's
looking like Seamus right when they hit him with the spotlight.
(00:29):
The sun is bright in Sherman Oaks. Let me tell
you send him my way. Man, it looks like he's
in a freaking rain over here. Anyway, Welcome to the show, everybody.
I've been cracking up while Jeff tries to fix the
glaring sun that's blasting through his window and it hasn't
been going well. And we'll leave it at that. But
(00:50):
we had the super Bowl on Sunday. I had one
buddy who had two buddies who actually got to go
to the Super Bowl and watch the bud Whoopin' that
took place. I'm a Raiders fan, so fuck both those teams.
To be honest, Jeff, did you watch the Super Bowl?
Did Jeff fund?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I watched Super Bowl at a friend's house. The right
team won. I'm not like a huge Eagles fan or anything.
It's just when a team that hasn't won a super
Bowl in my memory wins, I get happy for them.
I'm like, good for good for the Chiefs that they
won a super Bowl. And then when that same team
wins two years in a row, I go, all right,
we're getting a little greedy. And then if they try
(01:28):
to win three times in a row, I go, They're
not an underdog that I want to root for anymore. Now,
this is just some unless it's my team. If it's
my team, I want them to win ten times in
a row. But I didn't want to see the Chiefs
win three years in a row, and so you know,
it's not fun to watch. So I was rooting for
the Eagles, happy about that, even though the game was boring.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's a very consistent opinion for you because you prefer
Cody Rhodes's story to the title then post titles, so
you do like an underdog in a story, and that's
consistent and I like that. Have you ever been to
a Super Bowl? Freddy? Uh No, I don't think so.
I've been to a World Series. I've been to WrestleMania.
(02:10):
I don't really watch hockey, so I've only been to
like a random game, like a King's game. But it
was fun to go to a Kings game like an
actual hockey game. I guess a lot of people who
don't like wrestling, if they go to an actual like event,
they really like it. That was hockey for me. But
I haven't been to their finals, and uh, I think
that's I've never been to the Olympics. No super Bowl,
(02:31):
but Sarah's been to like three super Bowls. She almost
went to this one too. Yeah. Yeah, my buddy McCauley went. Uh,
you guys know mcaulay culkin. He's big wrestling head. He
went to the Super Bowl this year and missed fucking
game night, which is bullshit, No for real, mass shit
makes me mad, But I hope he had fun. And uh,
and my buddy Rio was out there in uh in
(02:53):
New Orleans. I made a movie down there. I like that. Yeah.
Rio is a good dude, man. Riol's a really good
I love that city though. So if anybody in New
Orleans is listening, I got nothing belove for you, baby.
Let me share this super Bowl story with you guys.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, when the Seattle Seahawks played the Denver Broncos in
New York for the Super Bowl. I went and sat
front row.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No way.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
This is me and the confetti of the Super Bowl
when the Seattle Seahawks won.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And let me just tell you what jersey is. That?
What jersey is.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Marshaun Lynch, the star team who should have been the
MVP two years in a row. Now you think, all
my friends in Seattle, all my friends in Los Angeles,
all my friends around the world, see me on Instagram
and go look at Jeff Die living his best life.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He's got money now, he has a career.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now he got to be in the front row when
the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let me tell you it isn't better. I was. I
spent a ton of money. I was cold.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I only got to be with like one of my friends.
All my friends that are like envying me. They're at
their house with forty of my other friends, jumping around,
hugging each other, loving that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
It wasn't worth bragging that I went to the Super
Bowl and spent all this money. It's better to be
(04:17):
with the ones you love and just enjoy. Sure, I went,
Who cares? They got to be like they spent zero dollars.
They got to eat all these snacks and treats and
drink and they got to be together. It's much much
much better to just enjoy the game on television.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Let me tell you, I thought it was gonna be
happy story. It means everybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, it means like you don't have to like think,
you think to yourself when you look at Instagram, Oh,
it must be better to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It isn't it's better picture.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well that's that's the only part I get out of it,
is that I get to brag that I went to
this thing.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But who cares. We got to grow out of that
bragging crap. Well, we win to a friend's house. All
our kids are friends and uh my son is friends
with their with their kids. My daughter just knows them,
but they all love my daughter. She's cool chie. So
my daughter and I got into two eighty Z and
we cruised to the valley to their new house. Their
house burnt in the in the Palisades fire, So this
(05:18):
was kind of them saying, hey, please come and check
us out at our new house. They already got a
new house. That was a fast transition. Well, they're renting,
they're they're they're renting a house and uh, so we
went over there. I went in and I was meeting
new people, which is always awkward, and uh one of
the moms brought nachos and she had some nachos there
(05:38):
and nobody was touching the nachos. And I was like, well,
I'll be a nice guy, man, you know, I'm trying
to watch what I eat. But I didn't want her
to be bummed. And so I go and I one
of the guys that I met is walking over at
the same time, but he's going for some pretzels and
I grabbed some nachos off the plate and I eat him.
And this dude I just met this dude and he goes, hey, man,
(05:59):
did you you want these? And he offers me some
tongs and I'm like, oh, bro, like come on, man,
that's how you're gonna do me? Like I just met
you and you just put your hand in the pretzel
bowl like what's going on? Like this is how we're
gonna like get off? And I was like, oh my man,
I didn't even see that. I'm real real sorry. I'll
make sure to use it next time for you. And
(06:20):
he was like okay, okay, and he said it down.
I was like, well, we're not gonna be bro, that's
impossible for this, And now you do that to someone
you just met. Man like he saw how careful I was.
I grabbed a chip. I didn't even want any KNATCHO.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I would have I would have just double I would
have over corrected. I'd have been like, oh, you're right,
you're right, Well yeah, next time, next time, but nah, sanitizer?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do you want some hand sanitizer? I noticed you're buying
the food table. My man literally went in the pretzel
bowl and then tried to germ shame me, but uh
but I uh, I took it in stride. That's why
I never go out ever, and I never want to
meet new people. But party, we still had fun. We
had a good time to watch Super Bowl. I want
a little more from the Kendrick Lamar halftime show. Uh.
(07:03):
To be honest, I definitely wanted more. I didn't think
it was his best stuff. But I think he's about
to go on tour. So he was like, man, this
is a rehearsal for when I go on tour this
this summer and then do my thing. Well, it's not
like they pay him all that much to do that.
They don't pay him anything, you know, they make sense
for the halftime show. Yeah, so I don't get too
mad at him if they're like, yeah, you know what,
(07:24):
I'm just gonna make sure my dancers get paid and
I'll take it out of my own pocket and get
the exposure and we'll rehearse. It'll be a dress reexposure.
What a silly word. That word ever, I will say this,
though I liked the halftime show, I thought it was great.
I thought it was I thought it was entertaining. I
didn't understand Sam Jackson's character during it. What was he
(07:46):
Was he playing the guy from Django Unchained or something?
What was he doing? You know? It wasn't you know
how like in rap records in the nineties they had
like skits. I get the skit.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I didn't get the character. It's like, why did they
do this? What's the message? Some sort of anti American
like we don't like that?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, people get pissed off at hip hop. Everyone loves
hip hop. We all like it. If you thinking of like
and talk shit about hop. No, the hip hop everyone's
comfortable with. But like a lot of the Kendrick lyrics
come under a lot of criticism, a lot of criticism
still to this we must live in different worlds.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't know anyone who would even have the balls
to say they don't like hip hop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We got dementals. It wasn't even until like it was
nineteen sixty or nineteen. I think it was nineteen sixty
when you could like do drugs and have sex in
movies like that was illegal to do it before that.
So some people just trip and hold on for a
very long time, and some people hold on too long.
And some people that you know are super chilled and
actually dig hip hop, and I guess is fucking good. Yeah,
(08:49):
he's what you just named was sixty five years ago. Yeah,
there's a lot of people that wish we could go
back to those times.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Man, I don't know anybody it's eighty years old. Watch
in the Super Bowl going, what's with this hippie toppy?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What is the hippie hoppy? Who is this guy? Exactly exactly.
They're getting upset and they want to be hurt. They're
tired of being ignored the retired portion of our population.
They're tired. Well, I agree, they should do old man
skits in hip hop. Records. Actually, that would be remember
the one in the ice cube one where the guy
(09:25):
he's like doing that. He's got this guy in a
dentist chair and he's like, I don't know that. All right,
all right, buddy, just sit back in the chair here
and fix your teeth. And the guy's like, oh, okay,
you can fix my teeth. He's like, yeah, this laid back,
got some novacaine here and brace yourself. And all of
a sudden, you just hear a real gunshot. Shit like
made everybody in my cort jump because I had like
(09:47):
a six stereo system. It was fucking great. That's when
I started loving sketches and hip hop records. But anyway,
it's our final episode of the season, you guys, and
because you guys are awesome and you listen to us,
even when we talk about hip hop, and even when
we argue about the decency of people, you guys still
show us love. So we're gonna be back for season five,
(10:07):
and you're gonna come back just in time for WrestleMania. Jeff,
how's the weekend? Bro? How was good? I already asked
you how super Bowl was? But how was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I was in Denver, did some shows at the Bug Theater,
which was really nice, and then got to hanging out
with my buddy Josh Nelson. Shout out to him and
my buddy Brent Tobler's shout out to him.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Didn't I meet Josh? Yeah yeah that Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
He was really nice.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then came home in time to catch Super Bowl.
So it's a very chill weekend, but it was great
and Denver was cold.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know, I don't think Josh would trip on me
for the Nacho full pop, but part of my friends would. Yeah,
we don't care. Alex, please take over and drive the cart.
I got you, I got I got a couple of
questions here.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm gonna let everyone know who asked it, and I'm
gonna ask tell it to you. You guys, answer your the
best you can. This first one's coming up from Rainbow Goodness.
Reddie and Jeff gave me three AEW talents you would
love to see in WWE and three WWE talents you
would love to see in ae W.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh wait, we gotta switch them over. Yeah, we gotta
trade three for three. Let's do this together. If you want,
We'll come up with three together.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I will say that it's hard because we're currently in
a a in a time period which everything changes where
WB is definitely winning the battle, So be hard to
move guys from WB to ae W at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But let's that'll be the challenge. But we'll just come
up with three combined and that'll make it a little
bit easier, all right. First off, I can do the
first one. I would love to see Will Hobbs with
the WWE power behind him, to see what WWE has
done with Penta, who was really underbooked. I don't know
(11:56):
if that's a term I'm just creating it now or
or it's just out a word, but you guys know
what I'm trying to say, you're right underutilized, under booked, underutilized,
under booked. And to see what they've done with him
in just like three short weeks is a night and
day as far as how the perception of someone is right.
We have a perception that changes when we look at
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everyone else's perception. We gain perspective, and I think now
everybody can kind of have a stronger perspective on the
talent that Penta has because we've seen two different sides
of it. Now. So I'd like to see them try
that with someone like Roy Hobbs, who could like pick
up anybody and just throw him out of the ring.
He'd probably throw me four rows deep like Hogan did
Rocky Baba and Rocky three. I'd like to see. I'd
(12:38):
like to see him. You want to see me get
thrown out of the rocking ring? Awesome, I'd like to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'd say, I got to go with my boy, and
you got thrown four rows.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Thanks, I'll be hurt and injured, so you go now,
and then I'll try to come up with a third one.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Uh. My prediction is sorry, my my move is also
a prediction. I believe that MJF is going to come
to WWE now. I also wonder if MJF will shine
as brightly in WWE. I know that he's got all
the chops and talent and words and mic work and
(13:16):
muscles and ability, and in rank performance, he lacks size.
He's not a very tall big guy, and I wonder
if maybe that's what keeps him comfy over in AEW
is the lack of height. But I would love to
see if he could be a gigantic star over in
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WB and I mean, Cody Rhodes, at least from my perspective,
was just searching to be a big star for so long,
and now it's finally happened. I couldn't have predicted how
big Cody Rhods would get in WWE.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I would have never foresaw that.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So I wonder if MJF watches that and goes, hmmm,
I wonder if that could be me over Like, I'm
much more talented, in Jeff's opinion than Cody Rhodes, so
maybe you know, maybe he thinks, hey, that should be
me over there.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I like your speculations, sir. I like it very much,
all right. I think for the final one that I'd
like to see, And this is more because I can't
think of the way to do it off the top
of my head. And remember all these questions, I'm not
pre reading these. I didn't even know which ones we
were doing. I was reading the wrong one, so so
(14:33):
bear with me on this. But I think I would
try to see what they could do with Orange Cassidy,
because I have no idea how they would book him,
and I think that would be the challenge that I
would present them, right Like, if I'm Orange Cassidy, and
they're like, yo, we dig you man, your contracts up.
You should come over here. He should like put it
back on them and be like, like most artists should, Well,
(14:56):
what's the plan? Show like you, what are you going
to do? Because I'd be interested to see what their
vision of him is, because to me, he's such an
aw guy that I can't initially see him in WWE
getting a push that would be equal to the push
he's received in AEW But I'd be damn interested to
see what they could do. They took Jay Usso from
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a tag team guy that was way overlooked and they were,
you know, mid card to headlining WrestleMania soon, so they
can do something with Orange Cassidy. How's that, Alex? Are
you satisfied with that answer?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I actually let me interrupt real quick. Go ahead, you
got a fourth. Well, here's the thing I disagree with you.
Oh and I'm gonna I've said a lot of controversial
things on this podcast. I'm about to say the most
controversial thing on this podcast that I've ever said. Okay, what,
I don't want to see Orange Cassidy anywhere except like
(15:51):
house shows. I think the first time you see Orange Cassidy,
it's the funniest, coolest thing you've ever seen. And then
the second time you see see Orange Cassidy, you nudge
your buddy and go, oh, this is great. Watch this,
You're gonna love this. And then the third time you
see Orange Cassidy, you go big whoop. The fourth time
you see it, you go, I don't care anymore, the
fifth I just don't care anymore. So I wouldn't want
(16:14):
to see Orange Cassidy really anywhere. So I totally pick away.
I totally ok. I totally disagree with you. I was
the complete opposite on that. When I first saw him,
I didn't get him. I didn't want to get him.
I thought it was hokey.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But I thought the same thing with Babe when I
first saw Adam Cole, and then eventually I came around,
and then eventually I was like, dude, that I'm cold
sick on the mic. And that's kind of how it
hit with Orange Cassidy. It started off where I was like,
what is he doing? Man? What's with these soft fake kicks?
Like why is he doing that? And now when I
watch it, I'm like, Yo, that's math funny. I gotta
show my friends this.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Well, there's a difference between music and jokes, right, Like
when you go see Credence, you want to hear all
the hits you like to re You like to hear music,
and wrestlers are musicians. You want to see them wrestle.
You want to see the music. But with like comedy, right,
you better you can't hear the same joke over and over.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We got to have new jokes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And I think that Orange Cassidy's a he's a comedian,
he's a joke. So it's like, I've seen the joke.
I get the joke. What else do you got? I
want to see more music and less less joke.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I get it. I think he has a pretty good
balance of it. It's it's real limited. When he does
he just does it. Wants a match, And the sunglasses
thing is cool as shit. I don't care what anybody says.
This ship is just badass. When the pulls them out
of the referees pocket or puts them in your pocket,
that's just fucking cool. He's like small, I know, but
raymis Teradio is small and I love Ray and Sean
(17:40):
Michael's as small as hell, and I love Sean Michaels.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I feel like he's doing like a Johnny Cage meets
some sort of comedic.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I like it. I'm fine with it, but I just
i've seen you just don't want to see it on
w Doug what else you got? Well, now you're throwing me.
You know what I want to see. I want to
see Mercedes Monday go back to w W too. That's
that's the one I would trade back. I don't. I
haven't clicked with a single story they've done. And I
think she's way cooler than how she's been portrayed. I
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think she's worthy of better stories than she's been given.
And uh, that's what I know you agree with, so
we can vetoed me Bro. I want her to get over.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It doesn't mean, you know, sometimes you see a wrestler
not getting any response from the audience and and you
like it make you go good, I'm glad that that
good person's not over or whatever. I don't enjoy watching
her not get over. I I like I like her
when she's a star.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's weird to hear an audience not be screaming her
name or booing and cussing her name, and it's it
has always been one or the other, and it's it's
not right now, and I don't I don't dig that,
So there, boom, there you go.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The next one was coming from Peter Surrs and he
says who ultimately dethrones Cody Man.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I was ung on this. I thought he would have
a little back and forth, but he's their new Sena,
and it's really hard to bet against Sena unless there's
an orton there to kind of go back and forth with.
And I guess there can only be one of those,
so it has to be Roman, right, But is Roman
going to be a full timer and carry that weight
(19:20):
all over again or is he going to try to
make movies. So right now, I'm gonna say this isn't.
I don't mean this as a cop out Nobody. He's
the new face, he's the new brand. I don't think
he's gonna lose it for a really long time. He's
gonna win WrestleMania and probably not lose it again until
the next WrestleMania. So I think they'll find ways to
(19:43):
do stories the way they have the Kevin Owens thing,
Cody went from having no story to a really cool
one with Kevin Owens. So they can do it. But yeah,
I'm gonna say zero people. What about you, dude, I
that's tricky.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I do think anybody that I could see taking it
away from Cody is already kind of too famous and
in a way moving on or at least becoming kind
of part time, like the Ramins and the Scenas, Like
they're kind of all moved on, right, And I don't
see anybody. This is another kind of mean but controversial
(20:19):
thing to say, is that, like, I'm not that excited
about Jay Usso and Goonther, like that does nothing. I
think Jays all those guys, I like all the rest
of us, But that doesn't that's not a WrestleMania story
to me, Goonther and jay Uso and.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So it's not as big a title as Cody's title.
I'm also not.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
A seth guy, Like, I don't think he's gonna be
as big as like a Sena or any of these
guys used to be. So for I, I some I
definitely agree with you, Like, I don't know who could
take it from Cody. My only guess would be it's
gonna be one of these next guys who will slowly
become the face like a bron Breaker.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Or a La Knight.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I'm still hold on hope to l a Knight, one
of these kind of next guys who will transcend into
the face of the of the industry.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Jef, what do you think about Brown Breaker winning the
Royal Rumble next year? And then I was one, Yeah, dude,
I could see that a star, like just a star. Yeah,
I get that. I heard he works Matt hard to backstage,
like on his promos and stuff like that. I heard
his work ethic is like top shelf. All right, that's
(21:29):
that's good. Well, we disagree on a lot of stuff, man,
but uh, I still love you, Bro.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Not Orange Cassidy. I don't see him dethroning Cody.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We disagree on SETH two. I think that's the ment.
But I hear you, dude. It just makes me cry
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
This next one was coming from NERD David Freddy. Out
of all the characters you played on screen, which one
would you like to play again? But in the world
of pro wrestling, your movies would make the best pro
wrestling storyline.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Man, that's tough, man, because like there's I know what
you did is the easy answer, right, But if you
think about it. Raised not like the best fighter. He
gets like one shouted by Ryan's character. I don't remember
his name, sorry, and he kind of gets beat up
by the fishermen. I don't remember his name, sorry, And
(22:24):
uh it's over twenty years ago, man, laughing at your career,
and you go, you lucky. I remember my guy's name.
I only do because I'm actively shooting the sequel to
it right now. Otherwise that have been like from Mark Brian,
Ryan Ray. It's right. So I don't think that's the one.
And I can't do the cartoons because that's cheating. That
(22:47):
would be that Jedi that I played in the Star
Wars cartoon thing, and that counts. I think it counts.
But it's not a movie, he said, movies, bro, So
I'm gonna go with the movie that nobody saw. Well,
that like a few people saw because the Star Wars
trailer was attached to it. But it was called Wing
Commander and this dude his name that sucks. I don't
(23:09):
remember his name either, but he was like he had
this like power to like chart his way through space
without a computer, without a NavCom right, and he had
an AK forty seven that was modified to look all futuristic,
and he shot fools with it, So he would probably
be the best guy to come in for me in
the wrestling world and win. I'm not trying to just
(23:30):
lose all the time. I'm not trying to be a jobber.
I'm trying to beat a champ. So I think that
guy would have the best shot. But man, I can't
remember his name. That sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
What about the character you played where you killed that
hot young chick and put her in a pool bin.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh the girl in the pool man, he was a
bitch bro like, he made soft decisions the whole storyline.
You know, you'd be a pretty good heel. You know,
be a good storyline, that's for sure. You'd love to
see him get his ass beat. That's yeah, that's a
good idea, Jeff, that's good.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This next one, I hope I'll mess this up. Is
coming from Cartik Merchra. Yeah, hey, Freddy, love your show.
It's always a great listen prior to my boxing training
on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh hell yeah. Here's my question. What are your thoughts
on AJ styles?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
WW Championship runs in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen with Max
and Sina and Do you see him having a bright
moment soon again.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I remember it well because that was when he built
the house that he built, which was SmackDown, and he
had great championship matches against those guys. AJ's a lot older,
so I think the story with AJ is like the
Jimmy Connors Wimbledon story in the late eighties early nineties,
where he was basically retired and no one gave him
(24:50):
any credit, Like he wasn't even ranked in at the
Wimbledon tournament. And he wins his first match. Oh, that's
a nice story. He's in his forties, man, it's it's cute.
He got one more and then he won his next
match and everyone was like, god, damn, Jimmy Connors won
another fucking matchup, wimbled in. Oh, well, this next guy's
ranked like number thirteen, so he's fucking smoke him. And
then all of a sudden, Jimmy Connors put it on
(25:12):
his ass too, and they're like, hold the fuck on
is Jimmy Connor is gonna go to the quarterfinals. It
fucking wimbled it, and eventually everyone bought into this story.
And then right when when America was behind him, you know,
the age caught up to him and it was just
too many matches in too many days, and Jimmy Connors
couldn't win the Wimbledon title that everyone you know thought
he was gonna. So I think that could be a
(25:33):
really cool story for AJ Styles. The only reason I
think that might not happen is because I think that's
gonna be the John Cena story, which is he keeps
saying the championship seventeen seventeen, so I can hand it
to the man that gets eighteen. And to have that,
I think seene as at a point in his career
where there's where he wants that tragic kind of ending
instead of like the hero's ending, because he was the
(25:54):
hero for so long and he's changed a lot since
I worked there. So that's why I think he sees
he's like a cooler, unique story and so I think
that might be his storyline where he loses a big
match at WrestleMania and the other dude and the other
dude wins. So I don't know about Agent, but I
think maybe you could give him something like that because
(26:14):
I think this is his final, like probably his last contract.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What about you, Jeff, I had hoped that AJ Styles
would be the he's the right age to be the
next guy. As far as what we were just talking about,
how I was saying, like, who's the next Sena, Who's
the next Roman reigns? And I think I thought aj
Styles was on track to be that kind of guy
(26:38):
who just was no matter what you knew, he was
going to win. I don't I'm not good at predicting
these type of things, but I wouldn't mind seeing him
dethrone Cody. I think that that's maybe a guy I
wasn't thinking of a second ago when I when I said.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That, I think a gas match.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
He's so worthy and I think he's paid his dues.
Remember how much we want wanted him to come over
to WWE for so long and and then we got him,
and he was getting pushed for you know, years and years.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But I don't know. I don't think he's done.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So I think there's hope for sure, and I'd love
to see him get that big uh that big push.
I don't I'm not going to predict if it's gonna happen,
but I'd like to see it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We blew that trivia question back in the day that
Alex asked us on the Phenomenal one, and I went
to Fiam and said taker and of course it was
aj Styles.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All right, Alex. Next, this is coming from Hank Nizzle.
How did you and Jeff meet? What's the story with
how Jeff joined the podcast? The podcast is definitely better
with him. I feel like you did this with your burner,
Jeff love the pro Freddy Prince sound effects too. I'm
assuming that means when you're like body slamming people and
talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh those are those are top shelf sound effects man,
that's like Michael Winslow's son. That's that's basically me. Mexicans, Loved.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I know you're Puerto Rican, but Mexicans, you know, are
always speaking with their sounds. You know, half half of
his act, half of Fluffy's act is noises. You know,
half of the language is whistling, you know, so I think.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's in George Lopez has done that. I've heard of
Latin that. My dad even did that. You do the
whole do the whistle. That was a good try.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
H we met because he was a guest on my podcast,
the Jeff Dive Friendship Podcast. We had a mutual friend
Josh Wolf, and I'm I'm a fan of Freddy the
same way everyone else is. And then so I was like, oh, dude,
I'd love to have Freddy on my podcast. And Josh
is like, dude, I know you and I know Freddy.
You guys would be great friends. And so I was like,
(28:56):
if you could set that up, that'd be awesome. And
then I like to use this term, we fell into friendship.
You know, the second I met Freddy, I was like,
I love this guy. To hang out with him anytime
I feel like, you know, you fall in love. I
fell into friendship with Freddy. And then we just kept
going back and forth talking about wrestling on our phones,
and then.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We and now we're bros for life. Deal with it, America.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This next one is from Ian Kennedy. Good Day, Freddy
and Jeff. I listened to the podcast weekly. My son
and I are off to Brisbane tomorrow to attend ae
W Grand Slam. Hell yeah, we went to Perth for
the Elimination Chamber. Have you thought about running the Freederation
in Australia. There's a large independent wrestling scene here. Last December,
our local show in Canberra, Slam Wrestling had over two
(29:46):
thousand people. Attend rage in the cage.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's h First of all, I love Australia, man. I've
worked there a bunch. We did the first Scooby movie
there and we basically lived there for six months. That's
how long it took the film movies back then. And
I've been to Brisbane and had a lot of fun there.
I've been to Sydney, had a lot of fun there.
We filmed in the Gold Coast, had a lot of
fun there, but that was more like old people. So
it was like like old school casinos where people were
(30:11):
playing bingo and lots of golf. And I'm not into
golf or bingos, so that quite wasn't quite my town.
But I loved Sydney and Melbourne. I've never been to,
but my wife's been there a bunch. My wife's even
dove the freaking Barrier reef in the nineties. Man, like
back in the day. She's a hard my wife more
artcore than people realize. Man. She'd be jumping out of
planes and shit if the family would let her. But anyway,
(30:33):
I talked to a stunt guy when I was shooting
I know you did last summer down there, and he
was talking to me about wrestling. He was like, dude,
I listen, May I listened to your podcast. I was like,
fucking in Australia, that's badass, man. And he was talking
about Big Wrestling Head and he was saying the same thing,
and him and I were kind of fantasizing about what
a wrestling federation would look like in Australia, and I
(30:54):
basically came to the conclusion where it was like, Yo,
what if I could like like Braveheart where he's like
talking to Angus McFadden's character and he's like, unite us,
Unite the clans, Unite the klans, And that's what we
came to. It was like, we got to get all
the indie feds, unite them all, bring it all under
one roof, and have that be the traveling one so
you can just combine all their fans into one. And
(31:15):
I was like, man, if I actually live down here,
that would be an achievable dream. But living in Australia
is just not an achievable dream for me. In general.
I like being in America. This is cool ass country too.
Australia's badass. I love working there, but I love being home.
So yeah, so it just wasn't a reality at the
end of the day, and I wouldn't want to do
it remotely because that's a one foot in kind of thing. Man,
(31:38):
that's sort of a bitch move and that I can't.
I can't do that. I'm all in or I'm all out.
So yeah, I really love that question, and I would
love to unite the clans, but brave Heart, I am not.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, it's kind of tough to move your family and
everything to a whole different country.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
To chase my dream. We got listener reviews. Jeff, do
do do? Do?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Do do?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
For this first one? This first one's from a Mark Underscore. Sorry,
I didn't mean to mess up your name, bro Underscore
a Mark and the subject is Seth Rollins would be
furious and this fool gave us a five star review.
Uh so you know it's money. Uh here we go.
(32:20):
Does anyone remember when Seth Freaking Rollins. I love that
he used the freaking in there, when Seth Freaking Rollins
would talk about how the WWE needs a real champion,
not someone who's a part timer like Rogan. Rogan Roman,
we miss you, Jeff. I want to acknowledge you, but
you're busy being a part timer. Bro, he thought you
a part timer, but he loves you anyway. What's your
(32:43):
response to a Mark dude?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
First of all, a Mark, thank you for the kind
words before you dunked on me.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I do love you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Uh. Well, you know what, guess who's a part timer
in pro wrestling?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The rock?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And do you get disappointed when he shows up? You
don't you go, oh my gosh, the rocks here. You
don't cry about all the times the rocks not there.
I'm doing my best. What it is is I've never
had success before, you know, so then with this six,
this new success, I'm managing it terribly. I'll go to
(33:17):
the airport and then they'll be like, oh, your flight's
delayed seven hours, and so then I've got to just
miss an episode. So I'm doing my best. I am
as committed as I can be. I love you and
uh and I'm trying my best. I second that emotion.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
A second that emotion. And he would always be here,
but a lot of times he's stuck circling the burbanker. Yeah,
it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That's such a stressful feeling too, because you can't text
when you're in the air. Like they they all these
airplanes say they offer Wi Fi. It's the worst Wi
Fi in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know, the only WiFi that works. And nobody ever
gets to fly this airline because they only go like
one or two places. Hawaiian airlines really best. Why do
I fly a lot of frigging airplanes? I just flew
Kuanas Quantas was pretty solid, but there's a dead patch
because you're going over the middle of nothing. Right, Hawaiian
airlines from La to and it also goes all the
(34:12):
way to Atlanta. I think sometimes to Hawaii is five
star Internet. It's just best, the best flight attendance, the
coolest captains. They talk to you. They don't you don't
miss shit. They're like, yo, there's whales. Check it out.
You're like, oh shit, there's well, Like they're so cool man,
I'll freaking love Hawaii. And their seats are comfortable, and
if you pay for first class, you don't get like
(34:33):
screwed on a seat that is like just like one
inch bigger, Like they're actually bigger seats, so you'll see
like big dudes and basketball players sitting up there and
they're like actually comfortable instead of like squished up, like
we're taking my family to Hawaii because we didn't make
the playoffs. It's always better that way. So yeah, so
they have good Internet. Thank you for the review, underscore
(34:54):
a mark and we appreciate you. Next up, Oh, this
is a great name, Anxious Flamingo. Anxious Flamingo's given us
five stars and the subject is the name of our show.
And here's the review. My favorite podcast to start the day.
Freddie and Jeff seem like good dudes. We are good dudes.
Both are big wrestling fans who keep their opinions honest,
(35:16):
but in a positive way. Freddie's behind the scenes of
when he worked in WWE is a cool feature that
leads to some six side quests. That's funny that you
said the way I would say it. Just comedic background
leads to some good laughs. It feels like I'm hanging
out with friends talking wrestling. I've had a hard time
getting oh whoa wait a minute, I've had a hard
time getting into WWE, so some episodes I'm just here
(35:40):
for the ride more aew would be awesome if you
have to appeal to the masses or just aren't as
big of aw fans, I get it. I'm just as
interested in hanging out and hearing how life is going
for y'all. Look forward to the new season. Take care yo,
that's nice, Anxious Flamingo. I totally hear you. If you
were listening to us last year, you heard a lot
(36:01):
more ae W. And then we got a user uh,
a listener review that said, hey man, all you're doing
is talk about AW. You hit us with some WWE,
and so I try to take people's critiques and criticisms
to heart and UH and implement that kind of stuff.
So we have been talking more w w E. The
only reason we haven't been talking as much AEW lately
(36:23):
is because I don't feel that they've been focused that
much on the character stories outside of like Ricochet and
Swerve and maybe one other, whereas ww's got like five
stories a week that it can hit you with. UH,
So we've been speaking about them a little bit less
just because I can't. I can't tell you how match was, Like,
I'm not a wrestler, I'm not an anything, Like, what
(36:46):
what the fuck do you want to know that for?
I can comment more on like the stories and the
promos and and that that kind of stuff, But Uh,
but I appreciate you and if we can get more
AW in there, we will. Jeff, what do you think, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It's tough, Like I think that you know, we go
in in and out the way that the wrestling brands
go in and out. So it's like, you know, when wb'
is the most popular thing on the market, like we
kind of tend to talk about that more. And when
AW is popping, then we like to talk about aw Moore.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
But we you know, we will do.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Wherever Alex, our fearless leader, guides us.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, blame Alex. Yeah, the best way to go. Stay
tuned for Unsanctioned Thursdays. You guys were going to get
into more of your questions. It will be our final
final episode of the season, but this was our final
episode of the regular airing Wrestling with Friends on behalf
of Jeff Die and are Awesome producer Alex. We wish
all of you a wonderful, wonderful time off as well.
(37:44):
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