May 7, 2025 • 28 mins
What's up everyone? In this episode of Wrestling with Freddie, I'm podcasting solo and sharing some personal updates. We've moved to a new area, away from the California fires, and I'm now broadcasting from my brand new studio. I also talk about my upcoming movie 'I Know What You Did Last Summer,' which is coming out in July and features some amazing performances. On the wrestling front, we dive deep into Seth Rollins' newest faction, the Vision, Jacob Fatu's awesomeness, and what is happening in AEW with their upcoming shows in London and Mexico.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone, Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. I
don't know what time it is where you are, but
wherever you are and whatever time it is, thank you
for listening to Wrestling with Freddie Today. It's just me.
We do not have mister Jeff. I am podcasting to
today from a aluminum step stool with a pillow on it.
It's incredibly uncomfortable and my ass is too wide and
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doesn't really fit inside the bars. So I'm kind of
leaning forward and uncomfortable. But we're still coming to you live.
If you guys, our regular listeners, you know that during
the California fires, I was podcasting from a friend's house
because we were evacuated. Well that's not going to happen again,
because I got my family out of there and we
have moved to an area that doesn't burn. God willing
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and knock on wood wherever you are, knock on your
head if it's made of wood. That's what I just did.
So I'm in a brand new studio, a brand new everything,
and yeah, thank you for listening, and party on and
let's start the damn show. And now your main event
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introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy Jef Die and
Freddy Friends soon all right, This week on Wrestling with Freddy,
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we get into Oh, you're just with me today, by
the way, So you gotta just tell Jeff that you
miss him and we'll see him next week. But this
week on Wrestling with Freddy we have we're gonna get
into Seth's newest faction, the Vision. We're also going to
get into Jacobatu being freakin' awesome and the shift that
they made from solo to him. Your thoughts and my
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thoughts and everyone's thoughts as to why we can talk
some Mox and sam O Joe if we have time,
and a whole bunch of other crap too. So here
we go, you guys, I already kind of gave you
a little update on my life, but also in my
career as well. I have my movie I Know What
You Did last Summer coming out in July. The trailers out.
If you guys haven't seen it, you can see it
on my Instagram page or I don't know the name
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of that. If you type in my name pop up,
or you can just type in I Know. It's easier
just to type in I Know she did last summer
on YouTube. Check out the trailer there. It's really cool.
My friend directed the movie. She's the reason I made
the movie because I just think she's so awesome and cool,
and I wanted to work with her because my wife
already did. She made another movie called Do Revenge for Netflix,
which was really cool too, and her casting is like
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next Frickin' level. She's like Seth Frickin' Rawlins. Yeah, so
I got to make this movie, and I knew it
was gonna be good once we got out there and
started shooting the scenes and saw how all these actors
kind of came together and their performances are amazing. You
have Maddie from Outer Banks, you have Chased from that
show the Lot maybe with the Seth Rogan show, a
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bunch of other really talented actors, and you could see
me and Jay love Hewett. So if you want some
old school vibes too, we're in there too. It's not
just like a cameo. We have big, substantial rules. Oh
maybe I wasn't supposed to say that, but don't edit
it out. If I get in trouble, I get in trouble,
people would be excited, I hope. But yeah, we have
really cool roles in the movie. The script was awesome,
and the kills are really unique and cool. And the
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dead bodies, you guys, the freaking dead bodies, like the
corpses in the original I know you did, are really
good if you want to see some really good prosthetics,
or not prosthetics, but just body parts. The first one
I had great ones, like when my wife's head gets
chopped off and you just see her in the ice
and you just see the head like sticking out of
the eyes, Like that's just that looks awesome And I
know that's my wife and I shouldn't say that, but
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that's just super cool and gross and sticky and and
I like horror movies. You should listen to my horror podcast.
It's called that was pretty scary. But yeah, So the
corpses in this they were made in Australia. And I'm
a big like special effects, practical effects like kind of
snob and have friends that work in the field, so
I was like, well, let's see what they have here
in Australia, And oh my god, they were the best
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dead bodies that I've ever seen on any set that
I've ever been on. I thought, I literally thought it
was this guy. His name's Austin. I was like Austin
and he didn't move and I went, oh my god,
it was a fake body. But yeah, so the movie's
really really cool. I think you guys are gonna love it.
Now let's talk some wrestling. Nobody dies in wrestling, thank goodness.
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They just get beaten, pinned, or submitted. So here we
go the story of the night. Seth Rollins. I don't
even think he needs the freaking like. He's so freaking cool.
He doesn't we say that, We don't need to say
Seth freaking Rollins bron Breaker. Who now we if we
look towards the future, Seth is the man that's gonna
make Bron breaker, which is fucking amazing and awesome. That
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means eventually Bron's gonna pin Seth Rollins one, two three
in the middle of the ring, and he's going to
be the top freaking dude or one of the top dudes.
WW has a lot of top dudes right now, that's
how good they are. But yeah, that's gonna be amazing,
and it's gonna be a long ways away. So we
get to see, like they tell long term storytelling in WWE,
if you want to look back at the bloodline, storyline
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or countless others. They remember slights that have been done
to each other in the ring, and it prevents them
from forming factions or they now talk about their histories
and other federations, like with a lot of the Latino wrestlers,
they do that. They're given a lot of people opportunities
to tell stories here, even if they're not getting in
the ring. Seth Rollins is one of the best wrestlers
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in the in the freaking world. I keep seeing freakings.
You don't have to say Seth freaking Rowlins and he's
I don't. You can't say top guy on the miccause
because when Max wants to cut a promo and when
Ciampunk wants to cut a promo, those are like ten
ten tens. Seth is cut to me a couple of
tens in his career. The first time was when he
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turned on the crowd and bought it and he said
I didn't sell out, I bought in and the crowd
was cheering and he's like, fuck you guys, I don't
want to hear you say shit. You kiss my ass,
And it was like one of the it was to me,
it was his best promo ever. That was when he
wore like the all black. Now it comes out tonight
on Monday or last week on Monday Night Raw in
this sweet ass like kingly royal jacket because he's he's
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like the top dude now in the company. He won
the main event at WrestleMania. He's saying that the future
of the business is now. It's these three men, Paul
Hayman to my left, bron Breaker to my right, and
the future of this industry goes through me. He didn't
say the WWE. He said this industry. He's telling everybody,
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putting everyone on notice. Look at the matches that I have,
look at the promos that I have, and then tell
me you're as good as me. I dare you. I
freaking dare you. And you could argue after that win
and after this promo that he cut, which was a
top shelf promo, it gets cut short by Sammy's sayin
we'll talk about that in a minute, you could argue
this is one of his best promos or would have been.
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So when you're calling peep and you're at the top
of your game and you're in your prime, like that's
next level, that's next level stuff. He's just dropping like
all kinds of Easter Egg subtleties within this promo and
he's just coming off like a straightk. You guys know,
I love seth Rawlins. I might not always love the
clothes he wears, but I get the philosophy behind it. Tonight,
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I thought the wardrobe was fantastic, or on this night,
the wardrobe was fantastic. So he's out there and he's
chewing the fat with the people, and the people love him,
and the cmpunk chants were not big in Kansas City, Missouri,
and I think that's where the show was. And then
they finally like chirped up a bit, but it was
more booze, not because they hate sampunk, but because they
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love seth Rawlins so much and they don't want to
support anyone that he's got beef with, right, and then
he mentions Roman Rain's name, and that one the crowd
was like, nah, fuck you, we love Roman Rains too,
or Georgia. No, DC's super loud, but he got the
most loved, like it's his name of Granted, he's the
one in the ring, so obviously he's got so much
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like on both sides and the crowd is in the
palm of his hand, and now it feels like the
industry's in the palm of his hand. And here comes
Sammy's Ain, and the crowd loves Sammy's Aint too. I'm
telling you, there's so many like upper echelon dudes that
can cut nasty, nasty, clean promos that feel loose and
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feel conversational and don't feel like they were written for.
It's just two dudes talking, two guys chewing the fat.
And he comes out and he's looking at at Rollins
and he's like, man, I don't know, and Rollins he's like, yeah,
you're probably out here to say what's upset. You're the
freaking man all this stuff. And Sammy's like, man, let
me get this microphone. They had him a microphone and
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he's like, Yo, I'm your friend. I've known you a
long time and I have to tell you the truth
and says like, let me have it. Baby. He's like
He's like Kent and the movie Real Genius from the
eighties where he's like, Okay, God, God, let me have it.
And then the laser from space hits the microwave popcorn
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and it's the most popcorn in the world and it
blows him out of the house. It's an awesome movie.
You guys should all see it. So he says, let
me have it, and Seth lets him have it, and
he's like, what the hell are you doing? You used
to think that you were better, a better person than
CM punk, and even though it was self righteous, you
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had evidence to back that up because he'd left, he quit,
he couldn't hack it and you could. And then you
say you're a better wrestler than Roman reigns, that the
industry goes through you and not him. I don't know
if I agree with your problems with them anymore, because
now it just seems like you didn't want to get
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rid of them, you were jealous of what they had
and I and it's just me, I want it, I
want it, and Set's like, dude, what the fuck I
thought we were bros Man. He's not like, Yo, I'm
gonna fight you for saying this, and which was so
smart to go this direction. The easy way is to
be like, oh, yeah, bron Breaker, get him, and he
didn't do that. He's like, Yo, that that freaking hurts man.
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You cut me deep. What the hell we we know
we've known each other forever. We've we've we've we've struggled
with each other. We talked about the future of this
business together and Sammy's like, yeah, bro, we did. And
this isn't what we discussed. Man, This is all you.
This isn't us, This isn't the roster, This isn't all
the dudes in the back that work just as hard
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as you and I do. This is about Seth freaking rollins,
and Seth and Bron break and then he says. Sammy says,
and if your boy doesn't stop eyeballing me like that,
I'm gonna bust his ass too. And Bron breakers liked
to kill you straight up, and Seth stops him. He's like, Yo,
hold up, everybody, hold up, all right, just hold on
a damn minute. Sammy, I got love for you, man,
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I'm not gonna have this dog get after you and
tear you up like he did last time. I think
Bron beat Sammy's ass the last time they wrestled. He says,
I can help you. Let's get you. Let's get you
the hell out of here, man, not out of wrestling
off wrong, because if you don't want to stand with me,
you're gonna become a target because I have to run
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this shit. The way things have been going, I can't
deal with that. It's why I hate punk so much.
He shouldn't even be here. He shouldn't even get an opportunity.
Screw that, that's my opportunity. Everything's about me. Ah, it's
all about me. So let me do you a favor. Man,
I'll send you to SmackDown. I'm gonna send you to SmackDown.
You still wrestle all the time. It's all good. We
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don't have any beef with each other. We don't have conflict.
Cool don't answer now, think about it, but I need
to know at the end of the night. And this
was the long term, a story that plays throughout the show,
and we'll continue to get into it. He's like, all right,
cool bet and they bounce and they take off. So
this segment was mad long. I don't it was like
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probably like fifteen minutes or some shit. I could be
off by a lot, but it felt long in a
good way. These two guys on the MIC are great.
It's a little different with some of the other talent
where they can really wrestle, but it feels tight with
with some of the dialogue. Like Logan, Paul is a
good example of that where it still feels tight. He's
he improves and his wrestling is dope. I don't know
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how he's such a good wrestler. It's having like a match.
He's flipping back, flipping across the ring off the ropes
like a legit or which is awesome. But his promos
still feel tight. He's not one hundred percent comfortable out there,
and he still feels very written for instead of off
the cuff. Even if it is off the cuff or
if he is self writing, it's just it's a little
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it's a little tight. And that's a lot. Man. They're
throwing a lot on him early on. He was super
famous before WWE. But this is a different environment. It's
a different experience. You're you're on a stage in a
live audience. There's no editing. It's not your friends that
are that are gonna support you. It's people that are
hoping you're going to fail. A lot of the time,
people that want to chant what during the mint your
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promo because they want to be a part of the
show too. God damn it. Oh, I'm sorry, I said.
I don't usually curse like that. Sorry, But anyway, Seth
and Sammy are just two dudes, like you want to
have a beer with them at the end of the
night and to see where this is going to go
and how they're going to take over. And Sammy's like, dude,
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you're just like the old blood line blah blah blah,
and Seth's like, well, well you could, like this is
going to be long term and they won't. I don't
know if if the match between Seth and Sammy happens
before or after he has a title. It's probably going
to happen before. But I'm just here's the point. Last
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year we were talking about Seth Rollins was taking a
lot of losses and he needed to win. They knew
this long before we were saying it on the podcast,
and they were just giving other people opportunities. They know
what they have with Seth and it is purely in
evidence at this point, like he's it doesn't matter if
he has a title, but this fool could carer both
titles if he wanted to. At some point, you can
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work it into a storyline and everybody would be like, yo,
Seth Rollins deserves all of the belts and he can
do it for as long as his body will hold up,
because his mic skills aren't gonna diminish at all. Over time,
He's just gonna get smarter and even more nuanced with
his promos. And I think he's the man, all right.
We spent a lot of time on that, but they
kicked ass. What can I say, Becky Lynch Lyra Valkyrie,
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I'm gonna let the helicopter fly over Alex. You don't
have to edit that out. That's Piper Nivin. They circle
my house, Becky Lynch and Tyra Valkyria. The friend of
my enemy is my enemy is the philosophy behind this promo.
And Becky explains her intentions and she was the one
that took out Bailey. Becky's son of a bitch? How
dare you? And then she turned on her own tag partner.
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It's cold blooded beat her ass too, and now she's
gonna fight her for the icy title and take over
because there can only be one Irish woman on WWE. Dammit.
I'm glad they don't do that to Latinos more than one,
because back in the old days it was either Tito,
Eddie or Ray. I hadn't Tablo too we got some love.
I'm just kidding. But anyway, we have their match set
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at Backlash and we will get into all our Backlash predictions.
That's right, predictions are back and they're gonna be always
on our unsanctioned Thursday show. So make sure you turn
in tomorrow or whenever you tune into this podcast, just
make sure you tune in before Backlash. Place your bets.
You can always trust us. I think we're at like
probably a seventy five eighty percent clip of just nailing
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banger after banger after banger. I don't know if that
number is accurate. I've never looked, but I just feel
like we're pretty much money on these, all right, So
moving on, Pat fucking McAfee. See there's Seth freaking Rawlins,
but then there's Pat fucking McAfee versus Gunthar. These dudes
had beef the week before because McAfee said some shit
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like yeah, man, he tapped out bitch ass and Michael
Cole was like, yeah, you little bitch ass tapped out.
They didn't say bitch ass, but I just love that
word and geezer. Not enough people say bitch ass or geezer.
So if you're brave enough, try to bring that back
in your local community and we can make this a
global thing. In England, they're like, we say geezer all
the time, Bro, what are you talking about? Well, bring
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that shit over here. Anyway, Glunter took offense to being
called a bitch ass geezer and came out and whipped
Michael Cole's ass. Pat McAfee came and tried to save
Michael Cole and successfully he did, but then got his
ass real whipped and got choked the f out and
had to get like helped out of there. And he
was selling the whole way as like a twenty minute
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so I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I had to
take some breaks. You could tell he was kind of
holding his breath when the choke was on to make
his face go super red and purple like it looked.
So it looks so good man. That's why we call
him Pat fucking McAfee because he knows what's up man.
This dude, you could tell, genuinely loves wrestling. He hasn't
had a bad night since he started on Common Terry
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and he's only gotten better. And where he started, I
was like Oh my god. If it's never better than this,
this is gonna be awesome. Michael Cole loves this guy.
There's so much more freedom, and there's back and forth,
and he plays and he's knowledgeable about the brand, and
now he's better than that. So he's got a match
with Gunther and again on the Thursday show, we'll get
into our predictions. But I already kind of talked about
this last week on my thoughts if they had a match,
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And here's another reason. And I don't even know this
to be certain, but I'm so confident in Pat McAfee's
awesomeness that I'm gonna go out on a limb and
say this is exactly what's going to happen. He's gonna
be probably not the first. There's got to be another
celebrity that's lost a match. I just can't think of
it right now. I would have lost a match. If
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I was in a match, I sounded like Ferris Brueler
right there. I could have been the Walrus. But I
think Pat McAfee is gonna get some licks in. You know,
he's gonna he's gonna get some throw some potatoes in
there and land a few shots but he's gonna get
beaten bad, and he's gonna I don't know if he's
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gonna get choked out or chaoed and can't continue, but
I feel like he's gonna do something where it's like, nah, man,
goodther is gonna beat my ass. I think it serves
two things. One, it gives massive sympathy to the casual
fans for the Pat McAfee character, right, because they're like,
oh my god, he was so brave. You know, he
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kind of did this for his commentating partner and he
just got beaten by this monster. Because he's a football player,
not a wrestler. This isn't his world. He doesn't know,
but he's doing it because it was the right thing
to do. Sometimes he's got to stand up and fucking fight,
and the hardcores are going to be like, dude, he
fucking jobbed a gounther. What a stud instead of letting
his ego get in the way and go, yeah, yeah,
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I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. And there's a way
to make him win. I'm sure that's believable, but I'm
not a booker. Like there's a way, like his friends
can get involved and they can all help him out,
and you know what I mean, like when the ref
gets hurt or something like that. I'm sure there's a way,
but I just don't think that's I don't think that's dude.
I think McAfee's going to be like, nah, dude, you
have to kill me in there, or damn near kill
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me in there. And I think that's going to get
him so much more, even more is that possible? Even
more over with the hard course that they're just going
to be like, dude, this guy can never leave, and
then when it's time to renegotiate his contract, he can
be like, look, i want a bazillion dollars. I'm the
most beloved commentator in professional wrestling. Give me all the money,
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and they freaking will because they have all the money.
Trust me, they're buying every wrestling company that I want.
This segment's awesome. He at the beginning of the show,
he's like, I get an opportunity to talk, and he
goes out there and does this thing. He says, when
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I die, I want to be remembered. And Nick Ali
makes the match official it's going to be Pat McAfee
versus Goon thro a backlash. Yeah, so I think that
match is going to be awesome. I think it's going
to be short, sweet, and I'm not saying the right
guy's gonna win Gunther and I'm not saying that's who
I'm picking it. You have to listen for Thursday, you
know I'm picking. I think it's gonna go that way.
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I just feel like mc if, he's an old school
guy who's gonna be like, nah, dude, you got you
gotta get me. I don't know why, but that's what
I think we got. Ray Phoenix and Santos Escobar. They've
been really good at maintaining this story for Santos. Even
though the title isn't the US title isn't in the future,
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They're keeping him active backstage. His backstage segments are getting
much much better each and every week, each and every month.
He's really the leader in the heartbeat in all these segments,
in helping get these other wrestlers over in the backstage
segments and then the matches in the ring. Dude, these
guys are luchadors. They are my favorite wrestlers in the world.
So I can't say enough good things about them. And
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I'm not a pro wrestler, and nor have I ever
been an agent of a match, so I don't critique matches,
But his story with Ray Phoenix, who is sick, not
sick like ill, He's fucking sick. And these guys have
a history from the old school Triple A to Luca Underground.
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Luca Underground was so good. If you guys don't know
about it, it's got to be on YouTube. Check it out.
If you guys do know about it, party on. We
both like the same thing and we're awesome. But they
talk about their history and Santos doesn't want to fight Ray.
He wants Ray to follow him. Trust my leadership, trust
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my experience. I made it to the WWE before you.
I can guide you. Ray Phoenix is like, fuck that,
Raymonds Steadio's still here, man, I'm gonna let that fool
guide me, not you. And Santos isn't having that. And
they have a match to kind of like establish some dominance,
and the match was fantastic, But the backstage stuff is
getting much much much better, and it's a good opportunity.
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By the way, all the luchadors, they've been letting speak
in their native tongue and in English too when they
can stephanievcer Man, Oh my god. Like she's killing it
out there. And English is her second language. I don't
know how many languages she speaks, but if it's just
Spanish and English, it's for sure her second language. And
she's doing a great job and her matches are awesome,
and the crowd freaking loves her, and the Devil's kiss
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is less sweet without Booker T is going bananas. So
I think they need to bring Booker T up every
once in a while for one of her matches because
he helps get it over. But she's awesome in there,
and I just want to shout her out because I
think I see her as a future champion for sure.
Everybody does. She's just she's super cool. That's not a
hot take, that's a nice cold take. So let's move on.
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So I wish Jeff was here today because I want
to talk about the miz Alista. Black has made his
return and he was going to have a match against
Miz because they met last week and he kicked him
in the face and nobody kicks Miz in the face
and gets away with it. And I know a lot
of people feel bad for them, Miss sometimes they go man,
he always seems to be the guy that people make
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their comebacks on, or the guy the celebrity punches in
the face, or the celebrity wrestler has a match and
he freaking loses. Let me tell you something, the miss
has been wrestling for nineteen years in the WWE. Nineteen years.
My man is getting paid in the shade and loves
his job and is ready for any and every opportunity
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that comes his way. Would I don't know him that well,
but I know him well enough to know that if
they said, hey, man, we're going to push you to
the top, he'd say, Hell yeah, let's fucking go. What
do you need? And if they said, yo, man, actor
X is coming to the show, he's promoting a movie.
Would you do a job for him and take a care?
I guarantee you would go, Hell yeah, man, I'm your guy.
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Let's make him look fucking great. That's the kind of
dude he was when I worked there. I still know
him a little bit, and he still seems even cooler. Well,
he can't still be cooler. He's cooler than he was
back then. I don't know anybody that has a bad
word to say about this guy. I've been a fan
of his for years. He's earned Jeff's fan hood and
he's the man. So don't feel bad for the miss.
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My man's getting paid. He's got checks, he's got a
beautiful wife, he's got beautiful babies, he's got a beautiful house,
drives a beautiful car, his golf games. But everything else
is money. So the Miss is the man. We love
him here. We should try to have the Miss on
the show again. I think he's already been a guest.
I think he was a season a season one guest,
but we should have him back again. Talk about all
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his awesomeness, awesome ness and anyway, Alista Black gets the win.
His moves look so real and cool. It looks like
movie choreography. When you watch an Alistair Black match for
flashes of it, they'll do like, you know, strike, counter strike, dodge, duck, jump,
woo kick why it's super cool. Anyway, we got a
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little bit of time left so we can talk a
little aw shout out to them. By the way, within
hours of them announcing the Grand Slam event with CMLL
in Arena Mexico, they sold out the entire arena and
it's not even a pay per view it's just a
special themed episode, so they're kicking ass. Also, their aw
NJPW Forbidden Door here in twenty twenty five event at
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London's Two Arena has already surpassed one million in advanced
ticket sales and that positions them to be the third
highest grossing event in AW history, trailing only behind the
two Wembley shows. Also, they're finally well. They're using smaller
arenas but they're getting sellouts. The crowds seem hot, the
energy seems good. That they're miked well well I don't
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know if they're micd but you can hear them. It
just sounds good and clean, so shout out to them.
We're still in the tournament, so there's not too much
that I can talk about other than Hangman Page B
Kyle Fletcher and he's going to face well Osprey and
one of those dudes gets to face either Samoa Joe
or John Moxley for the AEW World Championship, the most
important belt at that company. Although I think they do
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well with all their belts and they have a lot. Again,
there's no story here. It's all more character back motivation,
and then this tournament format where sometimes bros have to
fight bros and sometimes enemies have to fight enemies. Most
of the time you get a good guy versus a
bad guy, but nobody cares because they just want to
see these awesome matches, and all their matches are not
all of them. I don't like every single wrestling match
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I see, but aaw has super cool matches. I just
wish there were stories behind them more. The long term
storytelling with the Hurt Business and MJF, I think is
the way people invest. There's going to be episodes you
don't like, an episode you do, in segments you don't
like in segment you do. But when you have this
much time invested in it and then you get eventually
the Bobby Lashley Maxwell Jacob Friedman match, like that's going
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to mean something. There's going to be a big investment there.
Whether you clicked with the story or not, you know
the story, you know the history, so you understand the
story they're trying to tell in the ring better because
you're better informed. You didn't like every lesson you learned
in history class, but it shaped your brain and it
helps you understand things so that we don't repeat the
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mistakes of the past, right like we didn't enjoy every
day at school, but we still remember it and it
informed us and it helped us make decisions on tests,
so we didn't flunk out like that's and that's the
philosophy in all this kind of stuff. So just remember
that when you guys go through and go I fucking
hate it. I'm talking to you, jeff I. That's it
for today's episode. You guys, don't forget Unsanctioned. Thursday, we're
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gonna call our shots, so to speak, and it's Prediction Thursday,
and we're gonna try to make you guys some money.
As always, that day is sponsored by not any draft people.
Maybe they hate how right I always am. Maybe they
hate how much money they would lose every week, so
to screw them, take all their money, follow our predictions.
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We'll get back to you guys then on behalf of
Jeff I'm my producer, Alex. You guys are awesome, and
we'll see you then
What's up everyone, Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. I
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week on Wrestling with Freddy we have we're gonna get
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get into Jacobatu being freakin' awesome and the shift that
they made from solo to him. Your thoughts and my
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thoughts and everyone's thoughts as to why we can talk
some Mox and sam O Joe if we have time,
and a whole bunch of other crap too. So here
we go, you guys, I already kind of gave you
a little update on my life, but also in my
career as well. I have my movie I Know What
You Did last Summer coming out in July. The trailers out.
If you guys haven't seen it, you can see it
on my Instagram page or I don't know the name
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of that. If you type in my name pop up,
or you can just type in I Know. It's easier
just to type in I Know she did last summer
on YouTube. Check out the trailer there. It's really cool.
My friend directed the movie. She's the reason I made
the movie because I just think she's so awesome and cool,
and I wanted to work with her because my wife
already did. She made another movie called Do Revenge for Netflix,
which was really cool too, and her casting is like
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next Frickin' level. She's like Seth Frickin' Rawlins. Yeah, so
I got to make this movie, and I knew it
was gonna be good once we got out there and
started shooting the scenes and saw how all these actors
kind of came together and their performances are amazing. You
have Maddie from Outer Banks, you have Chased from that
show the Lot maybe with the Seth Rogan show, a
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bunch of other really talented actors, and you could see
me and Jay love Hewett. So if you want some
old school vibes too, we're in there too. It's not
just like a cameo. We have big, substantial rules. Oh
maybe I wasn't supposed to say that, but don't edit
it out. If I get in trouble, I get in trouble,
people would be excited, I hope. But yeah, we have
really cool roles in the movie. The script was awesome,
and the kills are really unique and cool. And the
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dead bodies, you guys, the freaking dead bodies, like the
corpses in the original I know you did, are really
good if you want to see some really good prosthetics,
or not prosthetics, but just body parts. The first one
I had great ones, like when my wife's head gets
chopped off and you just see her in the ice
and you just see the head like sticking out of
the eyes, Like that's just that looks awesome And I
know that's my wife and I shouldn't say that, but
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that's just super cool and gross and sticky and and
I like horror movies. You should listen to my horror podcast.
It's called that was pretty scary. But yeah, So the
corpses in this they were made in Australia. And I'm
a big like special effects, practical effects like kind of
snob and have friends that work in the field, so
I was like, well, let's see what they have here
in Australia, And oh my god, they were the best
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dead bodies that I've ever seen on any set that
I've ever been on. I thought, I literally thought it
was this guy. His name's Austin. I was like Austin
and he didn't move and I went, oh my god,
it was a fake body. But yeah, so the movie's
really really cool. I think you guys are gonna love it.
Now let's talk some wrestling. Nobody dies in wrestling, thank goodness.
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They just get beaten, pinned, or submitted. So here we
go the story of the night. Seth Rollins. I don't
even think he needs the freaking like. He's so freaking cool.
He doesn't we say that, We don't need to say
Seth freaking Rollins bron Breaker. Who now we if we
look towards the future, Seth is the man that's gonna
make Bron breaker, which is fucking amazing and awesome. That
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means eventually Bron's gonna pin Seth Rollins one, two three
in the middle of the ring, and he's going to
be the top freaking dude or one of the top dudes.
WW has a lot of top dudes right now, that's
how good they are. But yeah, that's gonna be amazing,
and it's gonna be a long ways away. So we
get to see, like they tell long term storytelling in WWE,
if you want to look back at the bloodline, storyline
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or countless others. They remember slights that have been done
to each other in the ring, and it prevents them
from forming factions or they now talk about their histories
and other federations, like with a lot of the Latino wrestlers,
they do that. They're given a lot of people opportunities
to tell stories here, even if they're not getting in
the ring. Seth Rollins is one of the best wrestlers
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in the in the freaking world. I keep seeing freakings.
You don't have to say Seth freaking Rowlins and he's
I don't. You can't say top guy on the miccause
because when Max wants to cut a promo and when
Ciampunk wants to cut a promo, those are like ten
ten tens. Seth is cut to me a couple of
tens in his career. The first time was when he
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turned on the crowd and bought it and he said
I didn't sell out, I bought in and the crowd
was cheering and he's like, fuck you guys, I don't
want to hear you say shit. You kiss my ass,
And it was like one of the it was to me,
it was his best promo ever. That was when he
wore like the all black. Now it comes out tonight
on Monday or last week on Monday Night Raw in
this sweet ass like kingly royal jacket because he's he's
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like the top dude now in the company. He won
the main event at WrestleMania. He's saying that the future
of the business is now. It's these three men, Paul
Hayman to my left, bron Breaker to my right, and
the future of this industry goes through me. He didn't
say the WWE. He said this industry. He's telling everybody,
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putting everyone on notice. Look at the matches that I have,
look at the promos that I have, and then tell
me you're as good as me. I dare you. I
freaking dare you. And you could argue after that win
and after this promo that he cut, which was a
top shelf promo, it gets cut short by Sammy's sayin
we'll talk about that in a minute, you could argue
this is one of his best promos or would have been.
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So when you're calling peep and you're at the top
of your game and you're in your prime, like that's
next level, that's next level stuff. He's just dropping like
all kinds of Easter Egg subtleties within this promo and
he's just coming off like a straightk. You guys know,
I love seth Rawlins. I might not always love the
clothes he wears, but I get the philosophy behind it. Tonight,
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I thought the wardrobe was fantastic, or on this night,
the wardrobe was fantastic. So he's out there and he's
chewing the fat with the people, and the people love him,
and the cmpunk chants were not big in Kansas City, Missouri,
and I think that's where the show was. And then
they finally like chirped up a bit, but it was
more booze, not because they hate sampunk, but because they
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love seth Rawlins so much and they don't want to
support anyone that he's got beef with, right, and then
he mentions Roman Rain's name, and that one the crowd
was like, nah, fuck you, we love Roman Rains too,
or Georgia. No, DC's super loud, but he got the
most loved, like it's his name of Granted, he's the
one in the ring, so obviously he's got so much
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like on both sides and the crowd is in the
palm of his hand, and now it feels like the
industry's in the palm of his hand. And here comes
Sammy's Ain, and the crowd loves Sammy's Aint too. I'm
telling you, there's so many like upper echelon dudes that
can cut nasty, nasty, clean promos that feel loose and
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feel conversational and don't feel like they were written for.
It's just two dudes talking, two guys chewing the fat.
And he comes out and he's looking at at Rollins
and he's like, man, I don't know, and Rollins he's like, yeah,
you're probably out here to say what's upset. You're the
freaking man all this stuff. And Sammy's like, man, let
me get this microphone. They had him a microphone and
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he's like, Yo, I'm your friend. I've known you a
long time and I have to tell you the truth
and says like, let me have it. Baby. He's like
He's like Kent and the movie Real Genius from the
eighties where he's like, Okay, God, God, let me have it.
And then the laser from space hits the microwave popcorn
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and it's the most popcorn in the world and it
blows him out of the house. It's an awesome movie.
You guys should all see it. So he says, let
me have it, and Seth lets him have it, and
he's like, what the hell are you doing? You used
to think that you were better, a better person than
CM punk, and even though it was self righteous, you
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had evidence to back that up because he'd left, he quit,
he couldn't hack it and you could. And then you
say you're a better wrestler than Roman reigns, that the
industry goes through you and not him. I don't know
if I agree with your problems with them anymore, because
now it just seems like you didn't want to get
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rid of them, you were jealous of what they had
and I and it's just me, I want it, I
want it, and Set's like, dude, what the fuck I
thought we were bros Man. He's not like, Yo, I'm
gonna fight you for saying this, and which was so
smart to go this direction. The easy way is to
be like, oh, yeah, bron Breaker, get him, and he
didn't do that. He's like, Yo, that that freaking hurts man.
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You cut me deep. What the hell we we know
we've known each other forever. We've we've we've we've struggled
with each other. We talked about the future of this
business together and Sammy's like, yeah, bro, we did. And
this isn't what we discussed. Man, This is all you.
This isn't us, This isn't the roster, This isn't all
the dudes in the back that work just as hard
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as you and I do. This is about Seth freaking rollins,
and Seth and Bron break and then he says. Sammy says,
and if your boy doesn't stop eyeballing me like that,
I'm gonna bust his ass too. And Bron breakers liked
to kill you straight up, and Seth stops him. He's like, Yo,
hold up, everybody, hold up, all right, just hold on
a damn minute. Sammy, I got love for you, man,
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I'm not gonna have this dog get after you and
tear you up like he did last time. I think
Bron beat Sammy's ass the last time they wrestled. He says,
I can help you. Let's get you. Let's get you
the hell out of here, man, not out of wrestling
off wrong, because if you don't want to stand with me,
you're gonna become a target because I have to run
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this shit. The way things have been going, I can't
deal with that. It's why I hate punk so much.
He shouldn't even be here. He shouldn't even get an opportunity.
Screw that, that's my opportunity. Everything's about me. Ah, it's
all about me. So let me do you a favor. Man,
I'll send you to SmackDown. I'm gonna send you to SmackDown.
You still wrestle all the time. It's all good. We
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don't have any beef with each other. We don't have conflict.
Cool don't answer now, think about it, but I need
to know at the end of the night. And this
was the long term, a story that plays throughout the show,
and we'll continue to get into it. He's like, all right,
cool bet and they bounce and they take off. So
this segment was mad long. I don't it was like
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probably like fifteen minutes or some shit. I could be
off by a lot, but it felt long in a
good way. These two guys on the MIC are great.
It's a little different with some of the other talent
where they can really wrestle, but it feels tight with
with some of the dialogue. Like Logan, Paul is a
good example of that where it still feels tight. He's
he improves and his wrestling is dope. I don't know
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how he's such a good wrestler. It's having like a match.
He's flipping back, flipping across the ring off the ropes
like a legit or which is awesome. But his promos
still feel tight. He's not one hundred percent comfortable out there,
and he still feels very written for instead of off
the cuff. Even if it is off the cuff or
if he is self writing, it's just it's a little
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it's a little tight. And that's a lot. Man. They're
throwing a lot on him early on. He was super
famous before WWE. But this is a different environment. It's
a different experience. You're you're on a stage in a
live audience. There's no editing. It's not your friends that
are that are gonna support you. It's people that are
hoping you're going to fail. A lot of the time,
people that want to chant what during the mint your
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promo because they want to be a part of the
show too. God damn it. Oh, I'm sorry, I said.
I don't usually curse like that. Sorry, But anyway, Seth
and Sammy are just two dudes, like you want to
have a beer with them at the end of the
night and to see where this is going to go
and how they're going to take over. And Sammy's like, dude,
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you're just like the old blood line blah blah blah,
and Seth's like, well, well you could, like this is
going to be long term and they won't. I don't
know if if the match between Seth and Sammy happens
before or after he has a title. It's probably going
to happen before. But I'm just here's the point. Last
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year we were talking about Seth Rollins was taking a
lot of losses and he needed to win. They knew
this long before we were saying it on the podcast,
and they were just giving other people opportunities. They know
what they have with Seth and it is purely in
evidence at this point, like he's it doesn't matter if
he has a title, but this fool could carer both
titles if he wanted to. At some point, you can
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work it into a storyline and everybody would be like, yo,
Seth Rollins deserves all of the belts and he can
do it for as long as his body will hold up,
because his mic skills aren't gonna diminish at all. Over time,
He's just gonna get smarter and even more nuanced with
his promos. And I think he's the man, all right.
We spent a lot of time on that, but they
kicked ass. What can I say, Becky Lynch Lyra Valkyrie,
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I'm gonna let the helicopter fly over Alex. You don't
have to edit that out. That's Piper Nivin. They circle
my house, Becky Lynch and Tyra Valkyria. The friend of
my enemy is my enemy is the philosophy behind this promo.
And Becky explains her intentions and she was the one
that took out Bailey. Becky's son of a bitch? How
dare you? And then she turned on her own tag partner.
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It's cold blooded beat her ass too, and now she's
gonna fight her for the icy title and take over
because there can only be one Irish woman on WWE. Dammit.
I'm glad they don't do that to Latinos more than one,
because back in the old days it was either Tito,
Eddie or Ray. I hadn't Tablo too we got some love.
I'm just kidding. But anyway, we have their match set
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at Backlash and we will get into all our Backlash predictions.
That's right, predictions are back and they're gonna be always
on our unsanctioned Thursday show. So make sure you turn
in tomorrow or whenever you tune into this podcast, just
make sure you tune in before Backlash. Place your bets.
You can always trust us. I think we're at like
probably a seventy five eighty percent clip of just nailing
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banger after banger after banger. I don't know if that
number is accurate. I've never looked, but I just feel
like we're pretty much money on these, all right, So
moving on, Pat fucking McAfee. See there's Seth freaking Rawlins,
but then there's Pat fucking McAfee versus Gunthar. These dudes
had beef the week before because McAfee said some shit
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like yeah, man, he tapped out bitch ass and Michael
Cole was like, yeah, you little bitch ass tapped out.
They didn't say bitch ass, but I just love that
word and geezer. Not enough people say bitch ass or geezer.
So if you're brave enough, try to bring that back
in your local community and we can make this a
global thing. In England, they're like, we say geezer all
the time, Bro, what are you talking about? Well, bring
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that shit over here. Anyway, Glunter took offense to being
called a bitch ass geezer and came out and whipped
Michael Cole's ass. Pat McAfee came and tried to save
Michael Cole and successfully he did, but then got his
ass real whipped and got choked the f out and
had to get like helped out of there. And he
was selling the whole way as like a twenty minute
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so I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I had to
take some breaks. You could tell he was kind of
holding his breath when the choke was on to make
his face go super red and purple like it looked.
So it looks so good man. That's why we call
him Pat fucking McAfee because he knows what's up man.
This dude, you could tell, genuinely loves wrestling. He hasn't
had a bad night since he started on Common Terry
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and he's only gotten better. And where he started, I
was like Oh my god. If it's never better than this,
this is gonna be awesome. Michael Cole loves this guy.
There's so much more freedom, and there's back and forth,
and he plays and he's knowledgeable about the brand, and
now he's better than that. So he's got a match
with Gunther and again on the Thursday show, we'll get
into our predictions. But I already kind of talked about
this last week on my thoughts if they had a match,
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And here's another reason. And I don't even know this
to be certain, but I'm so confident in Pat McAfee's
awesomeness that I'm gonna go out on a limb and
say this is exactly what's going to happen. He's gonna
be probably not the first. There's got to be another
celebrity that's lost a match. I just can't think of
it right now. I would have lost a match. If
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I was in a match, I sounded like Ferris Brueler
right there. I could have been the Walrus. But I
think Pat McAfee is gonna get some licks in. You know,
he's gonna he's gonna get some throw some potatoes in
there and land a few shots but he's gonna get
beaten bad, and he's gonna I don't know if he's
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gonna get choked out or chaoed and can't continue, but
I feel like he's gonna do something where it's like, nah, man,
goodther is gonna beat my ass. I think it serves
two things. One, it gives massive sympathy to the casual
fans for the Pat McAfee character, right, because they're like,
oh my god, he was so brave. You know, he
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kind of did this for his commentating partner and he
just got beaten by this monster. Because he's a football player,
not a wrestler. This isn't his world. He doesn't know,
but he's doing it because it was the right thing
to do. Sometimes he's got to stand up and fucking fight,
and the hardcores are going to be like, dude, he
fucking jobbed a gounther. What a stud instead of letting
his ego get in the way and go, yeah, yeah,
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I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. And there's a way
to make him win. I'm sure that's believable, but I'm
not a booker. Like there's a way, like his friends
can get involved and they can all help him out,
and you know what I mean, like when the ref
gets hurt or something like that. I'm sure there's a way,
but I just don't think that's I don't think that's dude.
I think McAfee's going to be like, nah, dude, you
have to kill me in there, or damn near kill
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me in there. And I think that's going to get
him so much more, even more is that possible? Even
more over with the hard course that they're just going
to be like, dude, this guy can never leave, and
then when it's time to renegotiate his contract, he can
be like, look, i want a bazillion dollars. I'm the
most beloved commentator in professional wrestling. Give me all the money,
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and they freaking will because they have all the money.
Trust me, they're buying every wrestling company that I want.
This segment's awesome. He at the beginning of the show,
he's like, I get an opportunity to talk, and he
goes out there and does this thing. He says, when
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I die, I want to be remembered. And Nick Ali
makes the match official it's going to be Pat McAfee
versus Goon thro a backlash. Yeah, so I think that
match is going to be awesome. I think it's going
to be short, sweet, and I'm not saying the right
guy's gonna win Gunther and I'm not saying that's who
I'm picking it. You have to listen for Thursday, you
know I'm picking. I think it's gonna go that way.
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I just feel like mc if, he's an old school
guy who's gonna be like, nah, dude, you got you
gotta get me. I don't know why, but that's what
I think we got. Ray Phoenix and Santos Escobar. They've
been really good at maintaining this story for Santos. Even
though the title isn't the US title isn't in the future,
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They're keeping him active backstage. His backstage segments are getting
much much better each and every week, each and every month.
He's really the leader in the heartbeat in all these segments,
in helping get these other wrestlers over in the backstage
segments and then the matches in the ring. Dude, these
guys are luchadors. They are my favorite wrestlers in the world.
So I can't say enough good things about them. And
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I'm not a pro wrestler, and nor have I ever
been an agent of a match, so I don't critique matches,
But his story with Ray Phoenix, who is sick, not
sick like ill, He's fucking sick. And these guys have
a history from the old school Triple A to Luca Underground.
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Luca Underground was so good. If you guys don't know
about it, it's got to be on YouTube. Check it out.
If you guys do know about it, party on. We
both like the same thing and we're awesome. But they
talk about their history and Santos doesn't want to fight Ray.
He wants Ray to follow him. Trust my leadership, trust
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my experience. I made it to the WWE before you.
I can guide you. Ray Phoenix is like, fuck that,
Raymonds Steadio's still here, man, I'm gonna let that fool
guide me, not you. And Santos isn't having that. And
they have a match to kind of like establish some dominance,
and the match was fantastic, But the backstage stuff is
getting much much much better, and it's a good opportunity.
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By the way, all the luchadors, they've been letting speak
in their native tongue and in English too when they
can stephanievcer Man, Oh my god. Like she's killing it
out there. And English is her second language. I don't
know how many languages she speaks, but if it's just
Spanish and English, it's for sure her second language. And
she's doing a great job and her matches are awesome,
and the crowd freaking loves her, and the Devil's kiss
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is less sweet without Booker T is going bananas. So
I think they need to bring Booker T up every
once in a while for one of her matches because
he helps get it over. But she's awesome in there,
and I just want to shout her out because I
think I see her as a future champion for sure.
Everybody does. She's just she's super cool. That's not a
hot take, that's a nice cold take. So let's move on.
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So I wish Jeff was here today because I want
to talk about the miz Alista. Black has made his
return and he was going to have a match against
Miz because they met last week and he kicked him
in the face and nobody kicks Miz in the face
and gets away with it. And I know a lot
of people feel bad for them, Miss sometimes they go man,
he always seems to be the guy that people make
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their comebacks on, or the guy the celebrity punches in
the face, or the celebrity wrestler has a match and
he freaking loses. Let me tell you something, the miss
has been wrestling for nineteen years in the WWE. Nineteen years.
My man is getting paid in the shade and loves
his job and is ready for any and every opportunity
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that comes his way. Would I don't know him that well,
but I know him well enough to know that if
they said, hey, man, we're going to push you to
the top, he'd say, Hell yeah, let's fucking go. What
do you need? And if they said, yo, man, actor
X is coming to the show, he's promoting a movie.
Would you do a job for him and take a care?
I guarantee you would go, Hell yeah, man, I'm your guy.
(23:48):
Let's make him look fucking great. That's the kind of
dude he was when I worked there. I still know
him a little bit, and he still seems even cooler. Well,
he can't still be cooler. He's cooler than he was
back then. I don't know anybody that has a bad
word to say about this guy. I've been a fan
of his for years. He's earned Jeff's fan hood and
he's the man. So don't feel bad for the miss.
(24:10):
My man's getting paid. He's got checks, he's got a
beautiful wife, he's got beautiful babies, he's got a beautiful house,
drives a beautiful car, his golf games. But everything else
is money. So the Miss is the man. We love
him here. We should try to have the Miss on
the show again. I think he's already been a guest.
I think he was a season a season one guest,
but we should have him back again. Talk about all
(24:30):
his awesomeness, awesome ness and anyway, Alista Black gets the win.
His moves look so real and cool. It looks like
movie choreography. When you watch an Alistair Black match for
flashes of it, they'll do like, you know, strike, counter strike, dodge, duck, jump,
woo kick why it's super cool. Anyway, we got a
(24:51):
little bit of time left so we can talk a
little aw shout out to them. By the way, within
hours of them announcing the Grand Slam event with CMLL
in Arena Mexico, they sold out the entire arena and
it's not even a pay per view it's just a
special themed episode, so they're kicking ass. Also, their aw
NJPW Forbidden Door here in twenty twenty five event at
(25:12):
London's Two Arena has already surpassed one million in advanced
ticket sales and that positions them to be the third
highest grossing event in AW history, trailing only behind the
two Wembley shows. Also, they're finally well. They're using smaller
arenas but they're getting sellouts. The crowds seem hot, the
energy seems good. That they're miked well well I don't
(25:34):
know if they're micd but you can hear them. It
just sounds good and clean, so shout out to them.
We're still in the tournament, so there's not too much
that I can talk about other than Hangman Page B
Kyle Fletcher and he's going to face well Osprey and
one of those dudes gets to face either Samoa Joe
or John Moxley for the AEW World Championship, the most
important belt at that company. Although I think they do
(25:56):
well with all their belts and they have a lot. Again,
there's no story here. It's all more character back motivation,
and then this tournament format where sometimes bros have to
fight bros and sometimes enemies have to fight enemies. Most
of the time you get a good guy versus a
bad guy, but nobody cares because they just want to
see these awesome matches, and all their matches are not
all of them. I don't like every single wrestling match
(26:17):
I see, but aaw has super cool matches. I just
wish there were stories behind them more. The long term
storytelling with the Hurt Business and MJF, I think is
the way people invest. There's going to be episodes you
don't like, an episode you do, in segments you don't
like in segment you do. But when you have this
much time invested in it and then you get eventually
the Bobby Lashley Maxwell Jacob Friedman match, like that's going
(26:40):
to mean something. There's going to be a big investment there.
Whether you clicked with the story or not, you know
the story, you know the history, so you understand the
story they're trying to tell in the ring better because
you're better informed. You didn't like every lesson you learned
in history class, but it shaped your brain and it
helps you understand things so that we don't repeat the
(27:00):
mistakes of the past, right like we didn't enjoy every
day at school, but we still remember it and it
informed us and it helped us make decisions on tests,
so we didn't flunk out like that's and that's the
philosophy in all this kind of stuff. So just remember
that when you guys go through and go I fucking
hate it. I'm talking to you, jeff I. That's it
for today's episode. You guys, don't forget Unsanctioned. Thursday, we're
(27:22):
gonna call our shots, so to speak, and it's Prediction Thursday,
and we're gonna try to make you guys some money.
As always, that day is sponsored by not any draft people.
Maybe they hate how right I always am. Maybe they
hate how much money they would lose every week, so
to screw them, take all their money, follow our predictions.
(27:44):
We'll get back to you guys then on behalf of
Jeff I'm my producer, Alex. You guys are awesome, and
we'll see you then
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