July 26, 2023 • 31 mins
I have returned from Italy refreshed and ready to talk wrestling! Jeff and I break down the most popular member of The Judgement Day, tiny boats, and why the MJF and Adam Cole angle is working so perfectly.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And now you're made even introducing Ghosts of Wrestling with Freddy.
Chef Died, Hana, Fredy, Brits, Junior Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddie. I've
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been in Italy for two weeks and my brain is
still there. There's no news, just a whole lot to
talk about mister Jeff Died. I went to Italy, home
of Santino Morella, where he made his debut the Milan Miracle.
Did you eat all those favorite spots? Go visit his statue?
He did all the thing. Yeah, his family's restaurant. You know,
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he was born and raised it. I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, definitely. He's not a Canadian dude.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Named well sometimes they just Vince just gives you a thing,
you know, he says, oh, I'm sure you're Hawaiian, but
you're from Japan.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
For this, I think that's what he did. So, yeah,
I went to Italy with the family. It was awesome.
We started out in Florence. If you don't know Florence,
go watch the movie Hannibal with Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal
Lecter and you'll know exactly what I saw. And how
I saw it and how I got away with murder.
And then from there we went to Tuscany, which was beautiful.
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I ate some of the greatest meals I've ever had
in my life. The people were amazing. I shouted them
out on Instagram. You guys can check it out if
you're planning a vacation. Not everything I'd do is Bazilion's Bucks.
Sometimes I'd do stuff that's awesome. It's cheap too, so
you should check it out. And then we ended in beautiful,
lovely Pussitano, which is a lovely seaside town built into
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the mountain. We rented this city is where your dad
spent the most money, buddy, and rented this big ass
villa that overlooked the water. It was right beneath like
the most beautiful hotel. We ate some of the craziest
meals I've ever had in my life. My kids loved
the beach. The water was so warm. We took the
boat to the Blue Grot in Capri. That's where my
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mother's family's from. The crazy island people. That's why she's
nuts and we don't talk that much. The trip was awesome.
We flew back through Zurich. Oh here's something. Not a
big fan of France, Air France, big fan of Swiss Air,
took took Air France out there, and they basically just
say and we're borning, go dog. It was like Southwest
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Airlines circa nineteen eighty six. It was so hardcore and yeah,
you probably weren't portant or just born, but Swiss Air Yo,
it was like Now, granted they speak German, so it
was very organized, very very you will do this else,
but it was awesome. Like I've never seen a plane
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board so properly and quickly, and people getting out of
the aisle and once there was space then putting their
like everyone was just on their best behavior for some
strange reason. The flight was beautiful. And I don't know
how to like tag people and complain or or shout
them out on social so on a wrestling podcast is
where you get my love. But it was an amazing trip.
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My kids. It was their first time out of the country,
so it was really good culturally for them to see
a bunch of beautiful art, eat different foods. My son's
a freaking animal hill eat anything. I love them so much.
We went to like even thermal these thermal bats in
Tuscany that stunk like rotten eggs because they were sulfured.
It like healed my body. So I'm all buff. Now, dude,
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it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got to go to this place. How much did
that cost? How much was the fart bath?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How much was that? That one was the cheapest of
the three because it was more like a like an
old person's retreat almost, But the food was so good.
We were but we were the youngest people there for sure,
and I ain't that young, but yeah, dude, it was.
It was pretty awesome. That was the cheapest one. And
then Posatana was like being in a James Bond I
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had a dream. I had two dreams. One I was
the lead singer in that eighties band Aha, that group
that was like Tay I was that guy. And then
I was a guy that was helping out James Bond
in a James Bond movie. My brain wouldn't even allow
my fantasy to let me. Sounds fun, It sounds like
a good time. Everyone had a good trip. Yeah, man,
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everybody had a good trip. Not too much fighting from
the kids, so it was good. And now wait they fight.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The kids fight sometimes brother and sisters yeah, but they
seem like they don't. Every time been around your kids,
they seem very polite and nice too.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now they're good kids, but trust me, they're not perfect.
They fight as much as our listeners kids out there.
WWE Monday Night Raw. Cody Rhoades in his hometown Atlanta, GA.
The people love him. He starts off with his catchphrase,
which I which, I like, what do you want to
talk about? Like La and Knights? Let me talk to
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your Let me tell you something. I love it, let
me talk to you. It's it's st I love it.
I love it. So Cody comes out and he talks
about his mom. The moment he says his mother, I said, oh,
he's getting his ass whipped tonight. I just knew it
right away. He is too sweet of a setup. So
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they cut to his mom in the crowd and she
looks she's just beaming with pride and there's my son,
and he finally made it full circle. And he's looking
at his mom like, you're the MVP, like Kevin Durant,
And all of a sudden we hear and it's brock
Lessener's music and Cody's like, all it's all now, you
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son up? A bitch. Mom get back and he's like
the ultimate like brave son, and then nothing, he doesn't
come out because Brock's a coward. And then all of
a sudden, and this time Cody's not having it. He
charges to the back, straight through into backstage and you
just hear Blair and then you see a steel chair,
go wow, and then Cody Rose just gets his ass
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whipped for the next spot. It was in front of
his mom. It's a try, and it certainly was, and
he got the hell beat out of him in front
of his mom. Jeff, have you ever been beat up
in front of your own mother? No?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I can gladly report that's never happened to me. I
wouldn't let it happen either.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It would be rough man, that's right, that's right. We
wouldn't go out like a poet.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'd lifted that guy whoever's trying to fight me and
lift him up, put on my shoulders, and my mom
would go top rope and clothes line them off my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like the like the like the hard foundation. So yeah,
So he got kimura and beat up pretty bad, and
he said it was hard times, and that was something
that we alluded to. This could be the new Hard
Time story because there's no one for him to wrestle
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because Roman and Brock never wrestle on TV but like
twice a year, so it's hard to get the dude opponents.
But it seems like they're going down that that that
that road. And if they do, uh, then shout out
to my buddy. Maybe at the end of our season,
I'll let the people know who he is. People know
who it is because they know they know he's a
fan and he's an actor, and I can't say too
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much real figure out. Also was the Judgment Day versus
Owens and Sammy's Ain and I loved this match. I
especially loved the finish. I thought it was so cool.
The Halluva kick gets stopped and then Kevin Owens is like, no,
screw you, buddy, Bobby Stunner, Bob Boomski while he's doing that,
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that's what it sounded like. And then he bounced off,
and then Sammy was already backing back up into the
corner and then find ba Ha meant gets them with
the Halluva kick and got the one two three. Now,
granted I just spoiled the match, but this was this
is my favorite match of the show. I really really
enjoyed it. I just love Sammy's ain and and Kevin
Owens and then everybody in the match was really good.
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It's what's a weird question is who's the most over
in the judgment day.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I can answer that with the he's he's easy, like
you what it's it's Dominic. He was on Smacked on
Raw and NXT this week.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now there's wrestlers that can't say that. There's plenty of
us as that kid. They're almost pushing Dominique too much.
I like him, I'm I'm I'm over on him, but.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I feel like they're pushing him too much on purpose
and it's getting it worth so much so much people
want to kill him, so okay, so let's do him
in order. Like most over is Dominic, Second over is
that's hard Damian Priest probably, although Rhea Ripley beats them
all like that's I don't know, Yeah, everybody with Finn,
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you could make a good argument for all for three
out of those four people. Also, Bad Bunny's coming back.
There's all this talk about him wrestling, you know, but
he don't want to leave the company, wants to just
not wrestle. He doesn't even want to be a musician anymore.
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That's why I'm glad I never did it, because you
get the bug man. Even that one little thing I
took for Brandy Orton, and it's legit hurt, even though
he protected me. I just I took it wrong because
I was too excited. For like months and months, I
was like, man, it would be so sweet to go
back and get revenge.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You start thinking of all your storylines. You going too, oh,
this this happen. I could do this, And they're like,
we haven't even thought about that. What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They're like, dude, you were just a a hole guest hos.
But what if?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then the rock comes out and they're like, what do
you Why would we You're pitching them all these and
the hul Cogan.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Puts me on his shoulders and it's like, no, you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Me, you I'm the greatest. That's what's happened with the
wrestlers all the time. They're pitching all these things, and
then we show photos from when I was young about
how I've always been a wrestling fan, and then Trish
Stratus comes out and kisses me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For this car, maybe thet maybe like open mouth and
three times. It's just a weird.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's weird, just throwing out ideas here. I don't know,
everyone's looking at me weird. It's just throwing out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, Jeff, I have a feeling I haven't mentioned your
favorite match from Monday Night Raw and I know what
you're good rules match that was so freaking cool. But
they beat my squad, They beat my outfite cat.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
The way the match is named after them, that's the
funniest part to me. It'd be like, we're gonna have
a tag team match. Is Jeff Jackpot Dive Freddy Prince
Junior and they're facing the Viking Raiders, but it's a
wrestling with friends match where the rules it's like, well,
then of course we're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know, I think we might lose that match, broer Big.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They make all these Freddy Prince Junior rules and then
we just win the match.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But like, that's the hilarious thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's a Viking also, I don't even know what makes
it a Viking match really. They just kind of put
the bow of a boat in front of it. They
put the flags on the ring post and then just
kind of loosely put some shields on the side, so
it looks like a crappy boat. Also, it reminds and funny,
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is cool, but it's silly, like they didn't have a
back end.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
There was no like back part of the boat. It
was just kind of like there was no stern.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Also, it looked like when you buy your kid a
race car bed, but the bed is you know, it's
still a bed, barely looks like a race car. They
kind of have these weird wheels that are no My.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Buddy, my buddy Chris Sandoval had one when we were kids.
But it doesn't it still looks like a bed.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This is like this is just a ring that they've
kind of put some boat like things on. Is so
weird but also really cool and I love I love
both of those groups. You see Dupre went through a table,
which I think that's the first thing, the first time
she's done that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now she's a hardcore rest. She's like, she's not just
a technician, not just a technician. Now she's a hardcore text.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
She'll make it a thing like Lift Morgan like I'm
the badass one.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You're like, she's gonna be dude, she's got, She's the
one man. She's gonna be the most hardcore extreme wrestler ever.
By the way, she's doing great. I know we're poking fun.
I do poking fun because I love her. I think
she's doing We've.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Only said good things about her on this podcast each week.
I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh somebo every week watching that she called me Otis
gets to hang out with her, But I don't. Otis
is the man. He did the worm beautiful. His worm's
so good it's I don't I don't even know how to.
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It's like watching a marble go up and down like
around is the perfect circle. It really is, and it's hard.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's hard to do the worm when you're a circle
because but.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's super strong. He could lift like eight million pounds.
That's how you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It looks like he hits his chin every time he
goes forward. I don't know if he actually does, or
if it's just his beard or something, but if you
watch it. I don't know why why I'm spending so
much time talking about this. It looks like he's hitting
his chin every time he goes down. I was like,
I wonder if that is.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Actually I'm going to do a hard, hard analysis of
this and we'll break it down and bonus footage in
another episode, moving on to a wa and and whereas
that our previous match was my second funniest match of
the night, This one was amazing. Whether you like mjf's
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ideas or not, every single one of them. He takes
a big swing, he takes a home run swing. He
might not always hit a home run, but he'll still
hit a lot of triples. That said, I'm sitting there
with my son and my daughter, and before the match starts,
MJF gets the crowd to start screaming, dance off, dance off,
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dance off. My daughter's a dancer, so she was dying
laughing when this was going on. I was dying laughing.
When the music cut and he and Adam Cole kept
dancing and then like embarrassed himself. My daughter goes, Dad,
it's like you when you did the electric slide for
too long and Scooby dude, Oh my god, which I
don't know how she remembered, but it was so they
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ripped me off. She just trusts me. She roast me
all the time. And then we watched the match and
the way they've built this up. I said it before,
is like forty eight hours and another forty eight hours
like Nick Nolty, the grumpy Adam Cole versus the outgoing,
big personality, singing and dancing Eddie Murphy. And you know
that eventually this ends in betrayal because and you knew
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before the end of this match, because it has to,
because Adam Cole wants the belt and MJF can't, and
he treats it like a girlfriend from the eighties and
like karate kid, like why are you looking at it
like that? Which is so good. But this match, I've
been waiting for the double clothes line because they have
been setting up the double clothes line for so long
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and it is the weakest finisher ever and I love
that they finally won with it and they screamed to
treat and it's so bad. It's so horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It gets refer to the constantly the way it is
always it's the word, and it's really just like two
dudes handholding, which is kind of funny, so like when
it doesn't work, it just looks like they're just standing
there holding hands. Sometimes Rover Red Rover, they'll send him
like on the rope he'll grab the rope, you know,
so he won't come back, and then they're just kind
of holding hands looking at him.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's so funny. I don't know how they're pulling this off,
and to have what four matches together and be the
best tag team or the most entertaining tag team and
wrestling like the vignettes, even the stupid ass vignettes they
do at the Chinese restaurant where the food's too hot
and instead of water, they get the cocktails that are
too strong, and then they're super drunk and telling stories
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and then they both look at the waiter and just
yell double clothesline and they fuck up the waiter for
no reason other than he brought him delicious Chinese food
and awesome cocktails. Do you think who do you think
is writing this? Do you think they're writing it?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Or is there just some great writer down there that's like,
I know these guys can pull this off, and he's
writing it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
They don't have writers, Oh they don't. They don't have it.
So it's Coal and MJF. It's just these two guys
busting this out. Man. They are absolutely But now I'm
forty seven years old and I'm laughing my ass off
at these vignettes, and it set up that finish for
the double clothes line so amazingly well, I couldn't even
believe it. I was. I was cracking up the whole time.
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My son was dying, laughing, my daughter was crying, like,
we love this match so much. I'm sure there's people
out there that hated it, and you hated it, probably
for the right reasons because it wasn't like a tough,
badass tag team wrestling match. But I loved it because
it wasn't that at all, and it didn't try to be,
and it tried to be something way different, and I
love when people take big swings. So I was dying.
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I loved it, and I know I know you, I
for sure loved it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I also think, like I'm pretty critical of wrestling reusing stuff,
repeating things.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I feel like they it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Can get lazy with that kind of stuff, like it's
so vincy where it's like and then someone comes out
and interrupts you, and then it's like it's a area,
like they use a lot of the same tropes. And
I don't know if that's Vince's fault or just wrestling
in general, but to see something different, good or bad
as fun. You know, it's a stupid a biking boat
in it, but it's different. I said, we got that
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the you know the I like these kind of any
any attempt.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
At something different, I'm gonna be supportive of. The Viking
match was like if long John Silver's had a playground
for kids in the back, that's what That's what it
looked like. I have a little pirate ship back here.
You can't see it, but even I have little pirate ships,
and I don't think I have the guts to attach
a wrestling rig to one of it and have a
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pretend match in there. What else, Jeff? We had Jack
Perry versus hook in a match I didn't think I
would care about, and I ended up caring about it
about a third of the way in because a father
had to watch his son get DDT'ed off the apron
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And I thought, I thought Taz did a really cool
job of trying to remain professional while his son's like
potentially brain damage. I thought that the guy's told a
good story. I think Jack Perry has a spoiled shithead.
My dad was famous. Fuck you kind of attitude is cool.
I didn't like his entrance music, although I do like
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the artist behind it. I'm not trying to crap on
the classics, but I think there's a better song out
there for him. But I really like Jack.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Who made the song? Was it Jimmy Hart? Did Jimmy
Harp come up with that song in his in his basement?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, a code named Beeto. I just thought Jimmy Harp
made all the songs. I thought he came up with
all the jingles everybody. No, he did box music. He
wrote for back Perfect. Yeah, so I still work he
was their ghost rider. Yeah, that's how old. I'm not
really buying Jack Perry as a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't really like, Oh tell me why, kind of
what I was just saying, like, it feels like he's
doing all the classic things you do if you're trying
to be a heel.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But I just don't really buy it from him. He
seems like a nice young guy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I don't know, just like when I see him look
into the crowd and act like he doesn't care, like
I don't really, I don't know, it just doesn't it
feels weird.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I got to rewatch it because I felt I felt
he really came off like an entitled prey and I
and I like. I like that. I got to rewatch it. Now,
I don't know I got to rewatch I mean as
far as like the wrestling, yeah it was. It was
typical heels stuff with the title and all that. But
I still thought he was creative with it. I don't know.
Maybe I like him and you don't. And I'll wrestle you. Yeah,
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that'll decide it. That's what we'll have to do. And
we'll have a blood and guts match, you versus me
plus four of our friends with thumbtacks, candy glass nail boards,
and well then we can't talk about the next match.
Blood and guts match. Dude, John Moxley is psychop? How
many of these can he do? Monx is it done?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Seven matches like this and most of them weren't televised
or recorded or anything.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's just in some field somewhere. Dude. He threw a
guy on a table of nails twice and bled more
than the guy he threw on the It's like, it's crazy.
He's a He's a freaking werewolf horror movie man. He's
always harry and covered in blood, grunting he breathes. Dude,
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He's like the most intimidating dude. I wouldn't even want
to meet him. Who does he remind you of? From
E c W? From E c W? I don't know, man,
he reminds me of like Anthony Hopkins in that Benizzio
del Dora Werewolf movie, like the Dad Werewolf. It's God,
I'm telling you, I wouldn't want to meet him in
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real life. I'd be like, oh yeah, hey, hey bro.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He comes off like he really sells talking about like
selling being a bad guy. This Moxley really convinces you
he's insane. He bit Kenny Omega's finger. He just his
gum came out while he was doing it, like the
gum came out of There's also a seat a part
where he's going with scissors, and it looked genuinely like
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it got stuck in Omega's face and you can see
like the skin come up.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I thought I saw that. I thought I saw that too.
I didn't know if he pinched it with his hand
sort of or but it looked like it stuck in there.
I was like, what the oh God, why, Maybe it's
his hair or something. But I remember watching it and
being like that, just dude, it was so gross for me,
and I don't do well with these matches. I wasn't
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that impressed by the Coda Abushi entrance, to be honest,
I thought it would be something bigger. I thought the
crowd would give him more energy, and I thought he
would move with more energy. He just kind of like
strolled out, what's up with her? You do, Papa? And
then just like strolled out with no urgency, and then
even in the ring was I don't know, it just
didn't look like the Abushia I was used to see it.
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I don't know if he was having to slow down
because guys were tired because he's the last dude in there,
or if he just was was tired himself or something.
I don't know, but I wanted to see something more.
I wanted to see the Abushi. I remember, maybe like
everybody would just get a little older, but I was
expecting something a little bit more. Would you think he
was very average? For sure?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know who looked good was the young bucks. I
was actually impressed. I always just I don't know what
my deal is with those guys.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And was like, get these jokers off my TV.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And then this match, they had like a bunch of
I don't know what it would be called, what's the
wrestling term for it, but like there was these little
segments or moments where I was like, holy crap, like
that was really impressive and cool.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And also yeah, when dude was bouncing through all the
ropes and shit, I was like, yo, man, he's like
a rabbit or what.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
The what's the name of the move that x Puck
used to do where he would slam your face go
down like kind of into a leg drop.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But he facebuster the Facebook facebuster. He did one of
those off the off the top rope to a guy.
I was like, that was pretty sweet. Yeah, I just
didn't even know did that. This was my match of
the week, not the Viking Raiders one. I was going
to pick that as a goof, but this is definitely
the match of the match of the month for me.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I thought it was awesome. My match of the week
was det all day long the Mixtag Finals that I
haven't laughed that hard at wrestling since I was a kid.
I'm telling you. It was just on purpose, like where
I'm supposed to laugh, not like, oh my god, that's
so grap I just loved it all right. Moving on
to SmackDown, Lovely Lovely SmackDown, we had raymys Stereo versus
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l A nine Yeah, versus Cameron Grimes versus Seamus and
the Invitational US Championship semi final. This was a pretty
cool match with a surprise victor. I would say I
feel like out of everyone, he would probably be the
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third person you would say would win it. I think
some people could say Cameron Grimes might get a little
bit more of a push or La Night, But I
have a weird theory on La Night. I think they
did the LWO one because it can help tell a
story and it can help either have showed more respect
and more solidarity within the LW when the Raymysterio Santos
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Escobar matches over next week, or there can be a
little bit of a divide in there, which might be
more interesting, But you don't want to break up that faction.
I like that faction, or at least I don't want
to break up that faction. So I think what you
do is when one of them wins, whoever it is,
and it'll more than likely be Ray Ray, because Ray
can put over La Knight without hurting his legacy, and
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for Santos do it kind of puts a stall on
what he's been able to do. So I think Ray wins.
I think they're going to try to start over with
Austin a little bit, and then you save La Night
for Raymysterio, and that's how you get the US title
onto l A Night. With everybody saying tell them, Jeff,
tell the people what you think of my theory. How
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crappy is it?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't think it's crappy at all, but I just
I've heard from a little bird, okay, little source. It's
a almost guy, but he says there might be some
backstage heat with La Night, and that's why they have
been very strange about his bookings, because I've for shame,
because we've been talking. I've been wondering about it on
(25:13):
this podcast. We've talked about it a few times about
how about how you know? Why are why aren't they
put in? Why is he not getting the push in
these things? And so I've heard there's a little back,
back backstage stuff, but I could see everything you saying
happened sounds right. How long is Raymonster? You are gonna wrestle?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Have we forever.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right, It's insane how long he's been wrestling and we're
still talking about him.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Dude, he's the greatest luchat or ever. Yeah, I don't
gar if he wrestles still, he's Rick Flayer's days man.
As long as he can still do his move set,
that's cool with me.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I guess that's also another perk of wearing that mask
is you know he just you can he doesn't age.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You can't see that masks don't wrinkle. Baby. Well, I
hope that it's a LA Night. That's what I hope.
I hope. I hope that that's the And yeah, listen, WWE.
We don't focus on problems here on the Wrestling a
Friends podcast. We focus on solutions. If you booked yourself
into this corner with Latino on Latino Hate Crime is
(26:14):
about to go on next week, then here's your solution,
here's your way out, and you put it on LA
Night and everything's going to be fine. Don't worry about
wrestlers having egos as long as they're not hurting people
in there, everything's okay. Egos, egos all right in LA Night.
It seems cool. So don't be jerks. Yeah, yeah, Senor
(26:36):
jay Uso and Roman Reigns set the rules of engagement
for their feud and tribal combat. The bloodline is imploding
all around us. Jay Uso moves around and has better
body language than anybody in professional wrestling. It's crazy. The
crowd is so hot for him, and he probably says
(26:59):
less than every single over superstar in wrestling right now,
less than MJF, less than Sammy, even less than Kevin,
if that's possible, because Kevin just does those quips. But
he's so active and so looks so volatile that you
can't take your eyes off him. I really think he's
the most like overdude right now in the game because
(27:23):
he's in the main storyline in wrestling, and he's the
main guy in the main storyline in professional wrestling right now.
That said, this was a great back and forth between
these two men. The finish of it was awesome. Paul
Hayman's stuff where he was sort of complimenting but criticizing
Jay all at the same time, was just beautiful. You
(27:44):
can watch the clip if you want to see it
and not watch the whole thing on any social media
that you follow. It was a really, really well constructed segment,
and the end of it was awesome because his punk
ass brother Solo was gonna Roman stops him and it's
just a whole brother on brother fight that looked almost
like an MMA fight, and his punches look good and
(28:08):
everybody's getting their ass kicked, and Roman's leaven looking like
with this look of doubt on his face, like concern
that this guy's a legit threat, and they've they've unleashed
this animal. And it was the best segment of the
week that anybody could have done. Of course it was
because these guys have it every week now. I love
Jay usso I can't say enough good things about him.
I feel like all I do is blow smoke up
(28:28):
his ass, but all he does is bring fire, so
he's awesome. It's hard not to.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Also, we texted about it, but I like that Paul
Himan referred to himself as his favorite Juico. That was
very funny, and the crowd was like, he just popped
that in the middle of his whole speech, So it's
kind of like they didn't get enough credit with the
crowd in my opinion, but it was very, very funny.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I love the storyline they're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I also think it's interesting that now being the tribal
Chief has kind of become its own belt, Like they've
found a way to make a title that has that
isn't really a title, if that makes sense. It's kind
of like, you know, you want to know who's going
to be the tribal Chief? Oh is he holding it now?
Like that whatever that pepper necklace is? Whatever that thing's called.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
The pepper necklace is what it's called. He picks it up.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's looking at it, like, don't you put that on?
I'm the tribal Chief And he's like, yeah, the power
of it, I don't know. I want the powers spicy peppers.
And so I love that they've been able to work that.
I mean, it is the best story in wrestling in
my opinion. It's the fact that it's gone on this
long proofs that it's one of the best stories for sure.
And it's also you know, every fan likes to every
person that talks about wrestling that doesn't really know a
(29:35):
lot about wrestling, but they want to act like they do,
they'll always be.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like, yeah, just like a soap opera. It's a soap
opera for men.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And I was like, shut up, soap operas are corny.
Everything's a story. You don't have to compare it to
a soap opera, like you know, it's it's scripted television
that's really good with like a fight element, with sweet
fight choreography like Jackie Chan awesome. So it's like an
action movie meets a sit cond. But this storyline is
some what soaper oper ish, you know, because the brother
(30:02):
and the and who you know what would seek us.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
In the night. Yeah, and nighttime soap.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, aggressive night Do they fight in the soaps? And
I'd watch it?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So yeah? Do they kill Jr? In Dallas the day?
I think it's amazing. I think it's really really exciting
and fun to watch. Jeff. Tell the fine people where
you're going to be this weekend. I'm going to be
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. On Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If you go to the seven o five Pittsburgh Pirates game,
you'll see Jeff Dye thrown out a first pitch. Come
find me, we'll have a beer and watch the Bucks
play baseball. And then on Saturday, I will be in
Pittsburgh performing. Get tickets for that show if you just
go to my Instagram at Jeff Dye or just go
to do Jeff dot com or search Pittsburgh Jeff Dye
and come find me.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Hey, I'm dragging Sarah out of the house and taking
her to comedy She wants to go to comedy club
performing in La anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
This Thursday, Pasadena Ice House. You guys want to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Come, Yes, I'll talk to you off there. Yeah, so
that's another guy. This has been in the area. Pasaden, nice, Yeah, Pasadena,
Come party with us. This has been Wrestling with Friends Peace.
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And now you're made even introducing Ghosts of Wrestling with Freddy.
Chef Died, Hana, Fredy, Brits, Junior Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddie. I've
(00:23):
been in Italy for two weeks and my brain is
still there. There's no news, just a whole lot to
talk about mister Jeff Died. I went to Italy, home
of Santino Morella, where he made his debut the Milan Miracle.
Did you eat all those favorite spots? Go visit his statue?
He did all the thing. Yeah, his family's restaurant. You know,
(00:43):
he was born and raised it. I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, definitely. He's not a Canadian dude.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Named well sometimes they just Vince just gives you a thing,
you know, he says, oh, I'm sure you're Hawaiian, but
you're from Japan.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
For this, I think that's what he did. So, yeah,
I went to Italy with the family. It was awesome.
We started out in Florence. If you don't know Florence,
go watch the movie Hannibal with Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal
Lecter and you'll know exactly what I saw. And how
I saw it and how I got away with murder.
And then from there we went to Tuscany, which was beautiful.
(01:17):
I ate some of the greatest meals I've ever had
in my life. The people were amazing. I shouted them
out on Instagram. You guys can check it out if
you're planning a vacation. Not everything I'd do is Bazilion's Bucks.
Sometimes I'd do stuff that's awesome. It's cheap too, so
you should check it out. And then we ended in beautiful,
lovely Pussitano, which is a lovely seaside town built into
(01:40):
the mountain. We rented this city is where your dad
spent the most money, buddy, and rented this big ass
villa that overlooked the water. It was right beneath like
the most beautiful hotel. We ate some of the craziest
meals I've ever had in my life. My kids loved
the beach. The water was so warm. We took the
boat to the Blue Grot in Capri. That's where my
(02:01):
mother's family's from. The crazy island people. That's why she's
nuts and we don't talk that much. The trip was awesome.
We flew back through Zurich. Oh here's something. Not a
big fan of France, Air France, big fan of Swiss Air,
took took Air France out there, and they basically just
say and we're borning, go dog. It was like Southwest
(02:27):
Airlines circa nineteen eighty six. It was so hardcore and yeah,
you probably weren't portant or just born, but Swiss Air Yo,
it was like Now, granted they speak German, so it
was very organized, very very you will do this else,
but it was awesome. Like I've never seen a plane
(02:47):
board so properly and quickly, and people getting out of
the aisle and once there was space then putting their
like everyone was just on their best behavior for some
strange reason. The flight was beautiful. And I don't know
how to like tag people and complain or or shout
them out on social so on a wrestling podcast is
where you get my love. But it was an amazing trip.
(03:08):
My kids. It was their first time out of the country,
so it was really good culturally for them to see
a bunch of beautiful art, eat different foods. My son's
a freaking animal hill eat anything. I love them so much.
We went to like even thermal these thermal bats in
Tuscany that stunk like rotten eggs because they were sulfured.
It like healed my body. So I'm all buff. Now, dude,
(03:29):
it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got to go to this place. How much did
that cost? How much was the fart bath?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How much was that? That one was the cheapest of
the three because it was more like a like an
old person's retreat almost, But the food was so good.
We were but we were the youngest people there for sure,
and I ain't that young, but yeah, dude, it was.
It was pretty awesome. That was the cheapest one. And
then Posatana was like being in a James Bond I
(03:55):
had a dream. I had two dreams. One I was
the lead singer in that eighties band Aha, that group
that was like Tay I was that guy. And then
I was a guy that was helping out James Bond
in a James Bond movie. My brain wouldn't even allow
my fantasy to let me. Sounds fun, It sounds like
a good time. Everyone had a good trip. Yeah, man,
(04:16):
everybody had a good trip. Not too much fighting from
the kids, so it was good. And now wait they fight.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The kids fight sometimes brother and sisters yeah, but they
seem like they don't. Every time been around your kids,
they seem very polite and nice too.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now they're good kids, but trust me, they're not perfect.
They fight as much as our listeners kids out there.
WWE Monday Night Raw. Cody Rhoades in his hometown Atlanta, GA.
The people love him. He starts off with his catchphrase,
which I which, I like, what do you want to
talk about? Like La and Knights? Let me talk to
(04:52):
your Let me tell you something. I love it, let
me talk to you. It's it's st I love it.
I love it. So Cody comes out and he talks
about his mom. The moment he says his mother, I said, oh,
he's getting his ass whipped tonight. I just knew it
right away. He is too sweet of a setup. So
(05:13):
they cut to his mom in the crowd and she
looks she's just beaming with pride and there's my son,
and he finally made it full circle. And he's looking
at his mom like, you're the MVP, like Kevin Durant,
And all of a sudden we hear and it's brock
Lessener's music and Cody's like, all it's all now, you
(05:33):
son up? A bitch. Mom get back and he's like
the ultimate like brave son, and then nothing, he doesn't
come out because Brock's a coward. And then all of
a sudden, and this time Cody's not having it. He
charges to the back, straight through into backstage and you
just hear Blair and then you see a steel chair,
go wow, and then Cody Rose just gets his ass
(05:55):
whipped for the next spot. It was in front of
his mom. It's a try, and it certainly was, and
he got the hell beat out of him in front
of his mom. Jeff, have you ever been beat up
in front of your own mother? No?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I can gladly report that's never happened to me. I
wouldn't let it happen either.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It would be rough man, that's right, that's right. We
wouldn't go out like a poet.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'd lifted that guy whoever's trying to fight me and
lift him up, put on my shoulders, and my mom
would go top rope and clothes line them off my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like the like the like the hard foundation. So yeah,
So he got kimura and beat up pretty bad, and
he said it was hard times, and that was something
that we alluded to. This could be the new Hard
Time story because there's no one for him to wrestle
(06:43):
because Roman and Brock never wrestle on TV but like
twice a year, so it's hard to get the dude opponents.
But it seems like they're going down that that that
that road. And if they do, uh, then shout out
to my buddy. Maybe at the end of our season,
I'll let the people know who he is. People know
who it is because they know they know he's a
fan and he's an actor, and I can't say too
(07:05):
much real figure out. Also was the Judgment Day versus
Owens and Sammy's Ain and I loved this match. I
especially loved the finish. I thought it was so cool.
The Halluva kick gets stopped and then Kevin Owens is like, no,
screw you, buddy, Bobby Stunner, Bob Boomski while he's doing that,
(07:27):
that's what it sounded like. And then he bounced off,
and then Sammy was already backing back up into the
corner and then find ba Ha meant gets them with
the Halluva kick and got the one two three. Now,
granted I just spoiled the match, but this was this
is my favorite match of the show. I really really
enjoyed it. I just love Sammy's ain and and Kevin
Owens and then everybody in the match was really good.
(07:48):
It's what's a weird question is who's the most over
in the judgment day.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I can answer that with the he's he's easy, like
you what it's it's Dominic. He was on Smacked on
Raw and NXT this week.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now there's wrestlers that can't say that. There's plenty of
us as that kid. They're almost pushing Dominique too much.
I like him, I'm I'm I'm over on him, but.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I feel like they're pushing him too much on purpose
and it's getting it worth so much so much people
want to kill him, so okay, so let's do him
in order. Like most over is Dominic, Second over is
that's hard Damian Priest probably, although Rhea Ripley beats them
all like that's I don't know, Yeah, everybody with Finn,
(08:33):
you could make a good argument for all for three
out of those four people. Also, Bad Bunny's coming back.
There's all this talk about him wrestling, you know, but
he don't want to leave the company, wants to just
not wrestle. He doesn't even want to be a musician anymore.
(08:53):
That's why I'm glad I never did it, because you
get the bug man. Even that one little thing I
took for Brandy Orton, and it's legit hurt, even though
he protected me. I just I took it wrong because
I was too excited. For like months and months, I
was like, man, it would be so sweet to go
back and get revenge.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You start thinking of all your storylines. You going too, oh,
this this happen. I could do this, And they're like,
we haven't even thought about that. What are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They're like, dude, you were just a a hole guest hos.
But what if?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then the rock comes out and they're like, what do
you Why would we You're pitching them all these and
the hul Cogan.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Puts me on his shoulders and it's like, no, you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Me, you I'm the greatest. That's what's happened with the
wrestlers all the time. They're pitching all these things, and
then we show photos from when I was young about
how I've always been a wrestling fan, and then Trish
Stratus comes out and kisses me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For this car, maybe thet maybe like open mouth and
three times. It's just a weird.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's weird, just throwing out ideas here. I don't know,
everyone's looking at me weird. It's just throwing out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, Jeff, I have a feeling I haven't mentioned your
favorite match from Monday Night Raw and I know what
you're good rules match that was so freaking cool. But
they beat my squad, They beat my outfite cat.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
The way the match is named after them, that's the
funniest part to me. It'd be like, we're gonna have
a tag team match. Is Jeff Jackpot Dive Freddy Prince
Junior and they're facing the Viking Raiders, but it's a
wrestling with friends match where the rules it's like, well,
then of course we're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know, I think we might lose that match, broer Big.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They make all these Freddy Prince Junior rules and then
we just win the match.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But like, that's the hilarious thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's a Viking also, I don't even know what makes
it a Viking match really. They just kind of put
the bow of a boat in front of it. They
put the flags on the ring post and then just
kind of loosely put some shields on the side, so
it looks like a crappy boat. Also, it reminds and funny,
(10:52):
is cool, but it's silly, like they didn't have a
back end.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
There was no like back part of the boat. It
was just kind of like there was no stern.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Also, it looked like when you buy your kid a
race car bed, but the bed is you know, it's
still a bed, barely looks like a race car. They
kind of have these weird wheels that are no My.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Buddy, my buddy Chris Sandoval had one when we were kids.
But it doesn't it still looks like a bed.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This is like this is just a ring that they've
kind of put some boat like things on. Is so
weird but also really cool and I love I love
both of those groups. You see Dupre went through a table,
which I think that's the first thing, the first time
she's done that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now she's a hardcore rest. She's like, she's not just
a technician, not just a technician. Now she's a hardcore text.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
She'll make it a thing like Lift Morgan like I'm
the badass one.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You're like, she's gonna be dude, she's got, She's the
one man. She's gonna be the most hardcore extreme wrestler ever.
By the way, she's doing great. I know we're poking fun.
I do poking fun because I love her. I think
she's doing We've.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Only said good things about her on this podcast each week.
I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh somebo every week watching that she called me Otis
gets to hang out with her, But I don't. Otis
is the man. He did the worm beautiful. His worm's
so good it's I don't I don't even know how to.
(12:22):
It's like watching a marble go up and down like
around is the perfect circle. It really is, and it's hard.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's hard to do the worm when you're a circle
because but.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's super strong. He could lift like eight million pounds.
That's how you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It looks like he hits his chin every time he
goes forward. I don't know if he actually does, or
if it's just his beard or something, but if you
watch it. I don't know why why I'm spending so
much time talking about this. It looks like he's hitting
his chin every time he goes down. I was like,
I wonder if that is.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Actually I'm going to do a hard, hard analysis of
this and we'll break it down and bonus footage in
another episode, moving on to a wa and and whereas
that our previous match was my second funniest match of
the night, This one was amazing. Whether you like mjf's
(13:10):
ideas or not, every single one of them. He takes
a big swing, he takes a home run swing. He
might not always hit a home run, but he'll still
hit a lot of triples. That said, I'm sitting there
with my son and my daughter, and before the match starts,
MJF gets the crowd to start screaming, dance off, dance off,
(13:33):
dance off. My daughter's a dancer, so she was dying
laughing when this was going on. I was dying laughing.
When the music cut and he and Adam Cole kept
dancing and then like embarrassed himself. My daughter goes, Dad,
it's like you when you did the electric slide for
too long and Scooby dude, Oh my god, which I
don't know how she remembered, but it was so they
(13:54):
ripped me off. She just trusts me. She roast me
all the time. And then we watched the match and
the way they've built this up. I said it before,
is like forty eight hours and another forty eight hours
like Nick Nolty, the grumpy Adam Cole versus the outgoing,
big personality, singing and dancing Eddie Murphy. And you know
that eventually this ends in betrayal because and you knew
(14:17):
before the end of this match, because it has to,
because Adam Cole wants the belt and MJF can't, and
he treats it like a girlfriend from the eighties and
like karate kid, like why are you looking at it
like that? Which is so good. But this match, I've
been waiting for the double clothes line because they have
been setting up the double clothes line for so long
(14:39):
and it is the weakest finisher ever and I love
that they finally won with it and they screamed to
treat and it's so bad. It's so horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It gets refer to the constantly the way it is
always it's the word, and it's really just like two
dudes handholding, which is kind of funny, so like when
it doesn't work, it just looks like they're just standing
there holding hands. Sometimes Rover Red Rover, they'll send him
like on the rope he'll grab the rope, you know,
so he won't come back, and then they're just kind
of holding hands looking at him.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's so funny. I don't know how they're pulling this off,
and to have what four matches together and be the
best tag team or the most entertaining tag team and
wrestling like the vignettes, even the stupid ass vignettes they
do at the Chinese restaurant where the food's too hot
and instead of water, they get the cocktails that are
too strong, and then they're super drunk and telling stories
(15:31):
and then they both look at the waiter and just
yell double clothesline and they fuck up the waiter for
no reason other than he brought him delicious Chinese food
and awesome cocktails. Do you think who do you think
is writing this? Do you think they're writing it?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Or is there just some great writer down there that's like,
I know these guys can pull this off, and he's
writing it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
They don't have writers, Oh they don't. They don't have it.
So it's Coal and MJF. It's just these two guys
busting this out. Man. They are absolutely But now I'm
forty seven years old and I'm laughing my ass off
at these vignettes, and it set up that finish for
the double clothes line so amazingly well, I couldn't even
believe it. I was. I was cracking up the whole time.
(16:12):
My son was dying, laughing, my daughter was crying, like,
we love this match so much. I'm sure there's people
out there that hated it, and you hated it, probably
for the right reasons because it wasn't like a tough,
badass tag team wrestling match. But I loved it because
it wasn't that at all, and it didn't try to be,
and it tried to be something way different, and I
love when people take big swings. So I was dying.
(16:34):
I loved it, and I know I know you, I
for sure loved it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I also think, like I'm pretty critical of wrestling reusing stuff,
repeating things.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I feel like they it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Can get lazy with that kind of stuff, like it's
so vincy where it's like and then someone comes out
and interrupts you, and then it's like it's a area,
like they use a lot of the same tropes. And
I don't know if that's Vince's fault or just wrestling
in general, but to see something different, good or bad
as fun. You know, it's a stupid a biking boat
in it, but it's different. I said, we got that
(17:04):
the you know the I like these kind of any
any attempt.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
At something different, I'm gonna be supportive of. The Viking
match was like if long John Silver's had a playground
for kids in the back, that's what That's what it
looked like. I have a little pirate ship back here.
You can't see it, but even I have little pirate ships,
and I don't think I have the guts to attach
a wrestling rig to one of it and have a
(17:28):
pretend match in there. What else, Jeff? We had Jack
Perry versus hook in a match I didn't think I
would care about, and I ended up caring about it
about a third of the way in because a father
had to watch his son get DDT'ed off the apron
(17:51):
And I thought, I thought Taz did a really cool
job of trying to remain professional while his son's like
potentially brain damage. I thought that the guy's told a
good story. I think Jack Perry has a spoiled shithead.
My dad was famous. Fuck you kind of attitude is cool.
I didn't like his entrance music, although I do like
(18:14):
the artist behind it. I'm not trying to crap on
the classics, but I think there's a better song out
there for him. But I really like Jack.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Who made the song? Was it Jimmy Hart? Did Jimmy
Harp come up with that song in his in his basement?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, a code named Beeto. I just thought Jimmy Harp
made all the songs. I thought he came up with
all the jingles everybody. No, he did box music. He
wrote for back Perfect. Yeah, so I still work he
was their ghost rider. Yeah, that's how old. I'm not
really buying Jack Perry as a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't really like, Oh tell me why, kind of
what I was just saying, like, it feels like he's
doing all the classic things you do if you're trying
to be a heel.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But I just don't really buy it from him. He
seems like a nice young guy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I don't know, just like when I see him look
into the crowd and act like he doesn't care, like
I don't really, I don't know, it just doesn't it
feels weird.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I got to rewatch it because I felt I felt
he really came off like an entitled prey and I
and I like. I like that. I got to rewatch it. Now,
I don't know I got to rewatch I mean as
far as like the wrestling, yeah it was. It was
typical heels stuff with the title and all that. But
I still thought he was creative with it. I don't know.
Maybe I like him and you don't. And I'll wrestle you. Yeah,
(19:26):
that'll decide it. That's what we'll have to do. And
we'll have a blood and guts match, you versus me
plus four of our friends with thumbtacks, candy glass nail boards,
and well then we can't talk about the next match.
Blood and guts match. Dude, John Moxley is psychop? How
many of these can he do? Monx is it done?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Seven matches like this and most of them weren't televised
or recorded or anything.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's just in some field somewhere. Dude. He threw a
guy on a table of nails twice and bled more
than the guy he threw on the It's like, it's crazy.
He's a He's a freaking werewolf horror movie man. He's
always harry and covered in blood, grunting he breathes. Dude,
(20:15):
He's like the most intimidating dude. I wouldn't even want
to meet him. Who does he remind you of? From
E c W? From E c W? I don't know, man,
he reminds me of like Anthony Hopkins in that Benizzio
del Dora Werewolf movie, like the Dad Werewolf. It's God,
I'm telling you, I wouldn't want to meet him in
(20:37):
real life. I'd be like, oh yeah, hey, hey bro.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He comes off like he really sells talking about like
selling being a bad guy. This Moxley really convinces you
he's insane. He bit Kenny Omega's finger. He just his
gum came out while he was doing it, like the
gum came out of There's also a seat a part
where he's going with scissors, and it looked genuinely like
(21:01):
it got stuck in Omega's face and you can see
like the skin come up.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I thought I saw that. I thought I saw that too.
I didn't know if he pinched it with his hand
sort of or but it looked like it stuck in there.
I was like, what the oh God, why, Maybe it's
his hair or something. But I remember watching it and
being like that, just dude, it was so gross for me,
and I don't do well with these matches. I wasn't
(21:27):
that impressed by the Coda Abushi entrance, to be honest,
I thought it would be something bigger. I thought the
crowd would give him more energy, and I thought he
would move with more energy. He just kind of like
strolled out, what's up with her? You do, Papa? And
then just like strolled out with no urgency, and then
even in the ring was I don't know, it just
didn't look like the Abushia I was used to see it.
(21:48):
I don't know if he was having to slow down
because guys were tired because he's the last dude in there,
or if he just was was tired himself or something.
I don't know, but I wanted to see something more.
I wanted to see the Abushi. I remember, maybe like
everybody would just get a little older, but I was
expecting something a little bit more. Would you think he
was very average? For sure?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know who looked good was the young bucks. I
was actually impressed. I always just I don't know what
my deal is with those guys.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And was like, get these jokers off my TV.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And then this match, they had like a bunch of
I don't know what it would be called, what's the
wrestling term for it, but like there was these little
segments or moments where I was like, holy crap, like
that was really impressive and cool.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And also yeah, when dude was bouncing through all the
ropes and shit, I was like, yo, man, he's like
a rabbit or what.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
The what's the name of the move that x Puck
used to do where he would slam your face go
down like kind of into a leg drop.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But he facebuster the Facebook facebuster. He did one of
those off the off the top rope to a guy.
I was like, that was pretty sweet. Yeah, I just
didn't even know did that. This was my match of
the week, not the Viking Raiders one. I was going
to pick that as a goof, but this is definitely
the match of the match of the month for me.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I thought it was awesome. My match of the week
was det all day long the Mixtag Finals that I
haven't laughed that hard at wrestling since I was a kid.
I'm telling you. It was just on purpose, like where
I'm supposed to laugh, not like, oh my god, that's
so grap I just loved it all right. Moving on
to SmackDown, Lovely Lovely SmackDown, we had raymys Stereo versus
(23:22):
l A nine Yeah, versus Cameron Grimes versus Seamus and
the Invitational US Championship semi final. This was a pretty
cool match with a surprise victor. I would say I
feel like out of everyone, he would probably be the
(23:42):
third person you would say would win it. I think
some people could say Cameron Grimes might get a little
bit more of a push or La Night, But I
have a weird theory on La Night. I think they
did the LWO one because it can help tell a
story and it can help either have showed more respect
and more solidarity within the LW when the Raymysterio Santos
(24:05):
Escobar matches over next week, or there can be a
little bit of a divide in there, which might be
more interesting, But you don't want to break up that faction.
I like that faction, or at least I don't want
to break up that faction. So I think what you
do is when one of them wins, whoever it is,
and it'll more than likely be Ray Ray, because Ray
can put over La Knight without hurting his legacy, and
(24:29):
for Santos do it kind of puts a stall on
what he's been able to do. So I think Ray wins.
I think they're going to try to start over with
Austin a little bit, and then you save La Night
for Raymysterio, and that's how you get the US title
onto l A Night. With everybody saying tell them, Jeff,
tell the people what you think of my theory. How
(24:50):
crappy is it?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't think it's crappy at all, but I just
I've heard from a little bird, okay, little source. It's
a almost guy, but he says there might be some
backstage heat with La Night, and that's why they have
been very strange about his bookings, because I've for shame,
because we've been talking. I've been wondering about it on
(25:13):
this podcast. We've talked about it a few times about
how about how you know? Why are why aren't they
put in? Why is he not getting the push in
these things? And so I've heard there's a little back,
back backstage stuff, but I could see everything you saying
happened sounds right. How long is Raymonster? You are gonna wrestle?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Have we forever.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right, It's insane how long he's been wrestling and we're
still talking about him.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Dude, he's the greatest luchat or ever. Yeah, I don't
gar if he wrestles still, he's Rick Flayer's days man.
As long as he can still do his move set,
that's cool with me.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I guess that's also another perk of wearing that mask
is you know he just you can he doesn't age.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You can't see that masks don't wrinkle. Baby. Well, I
hope that it's a LA Night. That's what I hope.
I hope. I hope that that's the And yeah, listen, WWE.
We don't focus on problems here on the Wrestling a
Friends podcast. We focus on solutions. If you booked yourself
into this corner with Latino on Latino Hate Crime is
(26:14):
about to go on next week, then here's your solution,
here's your way out, and you put it on LA
Night and everything's going to be fine. Don't worry about
wrestlers having egos as long as they're not hurting people
in there, everything's okay. Egos, egos all right in LA Night.
It seems cool. So don't be jerks. Yeah, yeah, Senor
(26:36):
jay Uso and Roman Reigns set the rules of engagement
for their feud and tribal combat. The bloodline is imploding
all around us. Jay Uso moves around and has better
body language than anybody in professional wrestling. It's crazy. The
crowd is so hot for him, and he probably says
(26:59):
less than every single over superstar in wrestling right now,
less than MJF, less than Sammy, even less than Kevin,
if that's possible, because Kevin just does those quips. But
he's so active and so looks so volatile that you
can't take your eyes off him. I really think he's
the most like overdude right now in the game because
(27:23):
he's in the main storyline in wrestling, and he's the
main guy in the main storyline in professional wrestling right now.
That said, this was a great back and forth between
these two men. The finish of it was awesome. Paul
Hayman's stuff where he was sort of complimenting but criticizing
Jay all at the same time, was just beautiful. You
(27:44):
can watch the clip if you want to see it
and not watch the whole thing on any social media
that you follow. It was a really, really well constructed segment,
and the end of it was awesome because his punk
ass brother Solo was gonna Roman stops him and it's
just a whole brother on brother fight that looked almost
like an MMA fight, and his punches look good and
(28:08):
everybody's getting their ass kicked, and Roman's leaven looking like
with this look of doubt on his face, like concern
that this guy's a legit threat, and they've they've unleashed
this animal. And it was the best segment of the
week that anybody could have done. Of course it was
because these guys have it every week now. I love
Jay usso I can't say enough good things about him.
I feel like all I do is blow smoke up
(28:28):
his ass, but all he does is bring fire, so
he's awesome. It's hard not to.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Also, we texted about it, but I like that Paul
Himan referred to himself as his favorite Juico. That was
very funny, and the crowd was like, he just popped
that in the middle of his whole speech, So it's
kind of like they didn't get enough credit with the
crowd in my opinion, but it was very, very funny.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I love the storyline they're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I also think it's interesting that now being the tribal
Chief has kind of become its own belt, Like they've
found a way to make a title that has that
isn't really a title, if that makes sense. It's kind
of like, you know, you want to know who's going
to be the tribal Chief? Oh is he holding it now?
Like that whatever that pepper necklace is? Whatever that thing's called.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
The pepper necklace is what it's called. He picks it up.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's looking at it, like, don't you put that on?
I'm the tribal Chief And he's like, yeah, the power
of it, I don't know. I want the powers spicy peppers.
And so I love that they've been able to work that.
I mean, it is the best story in wrestling in
my opinion. It's the fact that it's gone on this
long proofs that it's one of the best stories for sure.
And it's also you know, every fan likes to every
person that talks about wrestling that doesn't really know a
(29:35):
lot about wrestling, but they want to act like they do,
they'll always be.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like, yeah, just like a soap opera. It's a soap
opera for men.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And I was like, shut up, soap operas are corny.
Everything's a story. You don't have to compare it to
a soap opera, like you know, it's it's scripted television
that's really good with like a fight element, with sweet
fight choreography like Jackie Chan awesome. So it's like an
action movie meets a sit cond. But this storyline is
some what soaper oper ish, you know, because the brother
(30:02):
and the and who you know what would seek us.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
In the night. Yeah, and nighttime soap.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, aggressive night Do they fight in the soaps? And
I'd watch it?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So yeah? Do they kill Jr? In Dallas the day?
I think it's amazing. I think it's really really exciting
and fun to watch. Jeff. Tell the fine people where
you're going to be this weekend. I'm going to be
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. On Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If you go to the seven o five Pittsburgh Pirates game,
you'll see Jeff Dye thrown out a first pitch. Come
find me, we'll have a beer and watch the Bucks
play baseball. And then on Saturday, I will be in
Pittsburgh performing. Get tickets for that show if you just
go to my Instagram at Jeff Dye or just go
to do Jeff dot com or search Pittsburgh Jeff Dye
and come find me.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Hey, I'm dragging Sarah out of the house and taking
her to comedy She wants to go to comedy club
performing in La anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
This Thursday, Pasadena Ice House. You guys want to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Come, Yes, I'll talk to you off there. Yeah, so
that's another guy. This has been in the area. Pasaden, nice, Yeah, Pasadena,
Come party with us. This has been Wrestling with Friends Peace.
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