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February 27, 2024 53 mins

You have a story you want to tell. But have you ever considered that maybe your body is telling another story entirely? Our bodies are constantly talking to us but we may not be that great at listening. In this interview, my friend and energy expert Elizabeth Bennett shares how we can become better listeners and students of our bodies so we can write and share the most true story possible.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pick up the pieces of your life, pulled them back
together with the words you write, all the beauty and
peace and the magic that you'll start too fun When
you write your story, you get the words and said,
don't you think it's time to let them out and
write them down and cold? It's all about and write,

write your story. Write you write your story.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hi, and welcome back to the Write Your Story Podcast.
I'm Ali Fallon, I'm your host, and today I am
in the studio with my new dear friend more than
just a friend, but this is Elizabeth Bennett. I'm so
excited to introduce you to her. I don't mean that
we're like in a romantic relationship. That sounded that's what
that sounded like. I mean more than just a friend
because I was introduced to you because I scheduled an

appointment with you. You're a fabulous energy healer and body wizard
and you have so much wisdom to share with us
today and so I'm so excited for you get to
get to share that insight and wisdom with my people
here on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thanks for being with us, Elizabeth, so excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Like my favorite things to do to sit with friends
and just talk about our passions.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is any better?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, truly, this is like like pinch me that this
is my job, right. I'm so excited to introduce you
to the listeners. I met you because well, I've actually
met you through Ruthy Lindsay, who's our mutual friend who's
also been on the show. But I think I told
you this story when I was in your office for
the first time. First of all, actually, before I tell
the story, can you say in your own words what

you do? Because energy healer is.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
That the so I would say that the technical phrasing
that I would usually share is that I'm an energy kinesiologist,
which means I use the biofeedback tool of muscle testing
to test all of your energy systems as a listening tool,
and it helps me kind of uncover the story your
body is trying to tell and the balances and balance

is in that energetic electrical blueprint of the body.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
And then I treat it multiple.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Ways through energy through also do a lot of illistic
intuitive work. It's a really kind of listening and weaving
together the clues the body is sharing, and it's kind
of that A quick explanation is very diverse because every
single body is so unique and every single session is
completely unique. So I will never have the same session twice,

almost never even with the same person with the same issue.
It could be I'm working with somebody that is feeling
through cancer or an end of life care or I
stub my left toe on a consistent basis, or I
have this emotional pattern in my relationship or mental struggle
like be applied to any disease in the body that

a person is experiencing. So I always feel like I
give the long answer to the short question.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
But that's what I do. I love it, and it
is complicated and complex. And the thing that made me
want to bring you into the studio to have this
conversation with you after a few sessions with you is
I was thinking about how you're really reading the story
that my body is telling, which is sometimes a very
different story than the one that I would tell you.
And in fact, yes, well I'm getting ahead of myself.

But there have been times where we're having a conversation
about something that's going on and it's kind of like
half like a therapist, half of the doctor kind of,
and so it'll be like, tell me something's going on
when you were thirteen, tell me about it. And I'm like, oh,
it was this, and you're like, Nope, that's not it.
Your body's saying no. And I just thought that was
so interesting because I'm like, there's one story that your

brain is telling, and there's another story that your body
is telling. And when we can learn to listen deeply
to our bodies, we'll tell a more honest story because
the body keeps the score.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
The body doesn't.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lie, doesn't lie, it never lies, and never lies. She
is infinitely wise and holds all of the clues we
could ever need. And So when I started out my
work before I was doing specific energy medicine treatment and
I was just starting out with holistic intuitive work. The
way I felt Mike, my experience was sitting with a

person and hearing them and their stories. And I would
hear all these little clues through their language or their
story or what they were expressing about their symptoms and
their body, and I felt like I was just gathering
little points of light. And in my imagination, I had
this little black velvet bag that I would kind of
toss everything into, and then all of a sudden I'd
peek in and there'd be the constellation, and I was like, oh,

this is how all these dots connect. And then with
the body symptoms and then these intuitive pieces that are
energetic and frequency that are really hard to get information
from when you get blood work. Yeah, every single symptom
and experience in life has this energetic component. And so
often people have pursued all of these other very real components,

which are your chemistry, your biology, your physiology, but things
are still stuck and not moving, and there's this whole
other component that can sometimes be that silver thread that
draws the constellation. And there it is, and the energy
then moves, and then healing then happens. Because when you
work with energy, matter follows energy. That's just physics. Yeah,

so when you're working with the electrical blueprint of health
in the body, then health can't help but unfold and
bloom and it's it's yeah, it's magic.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
The body knows how to heal itself.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's like when you get a cut, and your body
knows exactly what to do to bring in all the
resources that it needs so that it can.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Heal that cut, that wound.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And yet we don't think about it that way when
it comes to other kinds of ailments in our body.
But you were talking about, you know, having some sort
of pain or ailment or something that's going on in
the body, and having you were sort of getting at this,
but like going to the doctor and having the doctor
be like, no, everything's fine.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Everything's showing in your blood work.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, have done thirteen MRIs and I don't see anything
in your in your bone, Andy, But there's this phantom.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Pain, which is exactly what brought me to you, because
I had a kidney surgery a couple of years ago
and was having some just I've been having some kidney issues,
like I can feel the pain in the physical spot
of my kidney. And then also just different things I've noticed,
like I can't drink coffee in the same way that
I used to. I can't drink alcohol in the same

way that I don't drink alcohol at all anymore, because
even a few SIPs of wine will make me feel
kind of sick. And then when I get sick, it
feels like it takes a while for my body to
kind of flush out the sickness. And so I was
trying to figure that out, but I just like you're
talking about, I went and got an MRI. Nothing looks
wrong in the MRI. I did a cat scan. Nothing
looked wrong in the cat scan. You know, every doctor
that I've been to, the blood work all looks normal,

everything looks fine. And I'm like, but I can tell
that something's not fine.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Something's not right, because you know what vitality and vibrance
and health feel like. Yeah, and no one else can
know what health feels like in your How dare we,
as practitioners of any assume that we know your body
better than yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah? Yeah, So with the kidney stuff, I haven't had
this as much, but before when I've had chronic pain too,
because I've had a lot of digestive issues in my life,
and I would have doctors say to me things like,
you know, you just need to calm down, this is
all in your head, that sort of thing. And yeah,
I think that's a really important point, that maybe there
is an element to which this is. It's more than

just physical, it's also emotional. But to downplay someone's experience
or to tell them that what's happening to them isn't
real is I mean, it's gaslighting. Actually it is.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
And it causes so much harm and long term, long
term harm.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
So this is what brought me to you. So I
think I told you this on our first session, but
I was sort of in my mind. I was like,
I'm on the hunt for someone who could who's more
on the holistic side, the natural side, an energy worker
and energy heel or something. And I had looked into
a few different options. I had sort of googled what
was around in my area and just intuitively had looked

at a few different websites and been like, no, not
really for me, not this person, not this person, not
this person. And then Ruthie had you come share with
her substat group and she posted a small clip of
it on Instagram and tagged you, and it was like
one of those things were just within seconds. It was
something about your accountenance and the way that you delivered

the message that you were delivering. It was like forty
five seconds from the first time I listened to your
voice to like a booking an appointment with you. I
was like, just push the buttons, book, book, book, Okay,
we're all set. And then like a month later I
was in your office. So yeah, it's just a cool
story of like following your own intuition.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Intuition, but even that I think about it in an
electromagnetic sense, if you go into the science of that, Okay,
tell me, so we know understand a resonance, right. So
in music, if you have three guitars in a room
and you thumb the D string on one guitar, every
other D string in the room is going to vibrate.
That's how it worked its resonant and so that there

is a matched vibrational match to the tone of the sound,
of the movement of energy of that D string. So
here you are, you've already in your awareness, in your
own consciousness and unconscious been asking and when you ask,
you will receive.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Right when you ask, you're going asking, Okay.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I know there's some other component, there's another being here
that I need on my team, and not it, not it?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Not it?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
And then for whatever reason, the note I was vibrating
in that moment that day was the exact match. And
so there was an unconscious physical experience that you had
that hit your unconscious body first. Yeah, through the tone
and sound of my voice and whatever all that carried.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
That was like thing and it can be countenance.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's that hits all of your electrical fields and they
go literally will light up and you will know that
is the next right step. And it could have equally
have been Okay, you showed up in my office, and
the next right step.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Was I had the perfect referral for you. You would
never have otherwise. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
And so as a practitioner, that's always been a guiding
light for me, Like I never know if you're walking
into my office because there's a tool in my toolbox
that is an alignment for you, or if I just
happen to have the phone number of the person you're
actually supposed to be working with. Yes, And that keeps
me so hands off, like and yet unattached to the
outcome or like what it's supposed to be. It's so

beautiful that that's relevant.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's the thing. It's such a beautiful way to look
at our lives.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I think I, especially during the work, that I
do see my life experiences through the lens of storytelling.
And I think of these experiences like following the popcorn trail.
You know, it's like the story is telling you how
it's going to go, it's telling you the meaning of
the story. It's it's showing you the next step on
the path. Ah and if we're listening closely enough, we

can follow that trail. And I think it's when we
get out of alignment with ourselves, or when we get distracted,
or when we numb out, or when which we do
as a way to protect ourselves. But when we do
those things that we stop hearing the ping. Yeah, so
we lose track of the popcorn trail, and that can
make us feel a sense of being lost in our
lives or undernourished.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Undernourished, yeah, use not knowing which way to go, which
way north and south is. And I love that you're
bringing a story because I've always been like my I
grew up in a book business. I was homeschooled forty
years ago and there was no curriculum, so my mom
just read me great books. I mean, I feasted on
the best literature. So like, I love story. Yeah, I

love story. And really it has been coming up for
me as in my meditation and my writing and my
kind of chewing through my work lately, is that the
body is always telling a story. And this particular modality
gives me a way to like if I've the other
day I was imagining I was actually doing a session
on myself, and I was working with my electromagnetic generator system,

which is also called chakras an ancient but now we
can actually have, you know, these great updated machines that
can read them and tell us that they're electromagnetic generators
for our organs and systems. But classically we called them chakras,
and now we can demystify that wu wo a little bit,
but there's still energy cyentersis to chakras. So I was testing,
So that's my I think a big differentiation point between

a lot of energy medicine and the energy kinesiology is
to be able to have a diagnostic feedback tool so
I can test see what's out of balance and then
treat it and then retest to see when it's in alignment.
So I had tested a couple of things, and again,
like you said, it was completely unrelated to what I
thought it was going to be. And the systems that
were out of balance and disturbed and not moving, and

that there was a lack of voltage and then a
disconnect between generators where there was no communication. And as
I was doing that process, I started thinking of each
one of those systems and each question I was asking,
like a plot line, and it was like, each one
was like a career in my own body, and I'm
just listening to the character. Yeah, I'm listening to the character,

and it's like, okay, well, I thought it was a
safety issue and it wasn't. It was a heart issue
and a willpower and communication issue.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And so these characters.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
In the plot line of this body that I'm in,
I was like, okay, wait, there is a wound in
the heart. There's a wound in the heart, there's a
wound in the throat, and let's play with what I
happened to have this dictionary of data about those particular
organ systems and those chakras. So I was like playing
with words, right, And so it begins to connect dots,

back to connecting dots, and this thread of the storyline
and the plots weaving together. And there's nothing better than
reading a story and having all of those characters somehow
converge in meet and it's like all the threads and
it's just magic. And yet we live in that story
every day, in our electrophysiology and in our biology all

the time, because we have a body and we were
designed to have this exquisite story always being told to us,
whispered to us. And I think getting to become aware
of that tool in the toolbox as a human would
change the world if everyone could just practice that tool
in their toolbox and learn to listen to this whole

system that we're you know, we aren't really taught about
in school. It's like, here's your circulatory system, justice system,
what about your electrophysiology. What about that tells your heart
to be and communicates every single cell to another, communicates
through electrical energy. It's that voltage. It's not some metaphysical,
hyper spiritual disconnect from the physiology. And then maybe there's

a little bit of that too, but you know, the
mystic side. But how much of what was mystical one
hundred years ago is now like science totally right? And
so we're at this really fun point in medicine of
like science catching up.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I think this is one of the reasons that you
really spoke to me is because I would describe myself similarly,
that you have this connection to what some people might
call woo woo or you know, like a very spiritual
kind of ethereal esoteric idea that the body is a
messenger and it's always speaking to you and that they're
you know, the chakras and all that. And then also

you have a way of kind of grounding that into science,
physical matter, what we can see, what we can understand.
And one of the things you said to me in
our first session that was really powerful is that if
you don't have that grounding, a lot of people don't,
a lot of spiritual teachers don't have that kind of
grounding into the physical And if you don't, you lose

some of the power of it, not only because it
becomes really hard to talk about it with people and
really hard to understand it yourself, but also I think,
because well, I don't know, I'd love to hear what's
important for you about grounding that into physical matter. What's

important for you about grounding that into physical matter?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, I think that when I think about it back,
i'll go super techy.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Okay, so the super techy.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Of that, I'll use my house analogy, or you can
imagine a house or an electrical device. FDA requires any
electrical device to be a grounded device, otherwise it has
irregular voltage patterns and is likely to shock you, to
have an arcing energy.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So if you buy a beautiful old home.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I happen to be a sucker for those If you
walk in before you're buying a home and you notice
that there's only two prongs on those outlets, and there's
not that third grounding prong, which that bottom one is
a grounding prong. That means you have a positive and
a negative electrical line coming in with no ground. That means,
in Layman's terms, you're going to have a critter crawl

behind the wall and chew on a wire and they're
going to get electrocuted, and then the wires damaged in
electric is going to arc melt things around it, cause
damage behind the wall, possibly start a fire. It's also
going to anything you plug into. It's going to be
vulnerable because it's going to have an irregular, non coherent
electrical pattern instead of it being smooth from the street

through the house to the device. So you're going to
have highly likely you're putting things at risk. However, once
you rewire that house, what we have now is this
copper wire that goes into the neutral ground and then
ends up twenty feet underground on a steel rod.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So literally, anytime.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Excess voltage or a surge of voltage that is out
of a healthy pattern for that device or house. It
will arc and then the neutral ground grabs that excess
voltage and pulls it directly into the dirt. Not only
does it not do harm, but the earth itself loves electricity.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
It loves to be struck by lightning.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You can look at the land, what happens near a
lightning strike and what flourishes after.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's actually doing.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Good to discharge excess voltage into the ground. So if
a house is so much healthier when it's grounded, imagine
our bodies. Our bodies are designed with four acupuncture points
that work like grounding rods into the dirt, that literally
are outgoing spots for excess voltage to be like a

lightning rod to discharge excess voltage from your body into
the dirt. So when you're able to discharge excess voltage,
then your whole electrical pattern in your body is going
to be more coherent. It's going to be a smooth,
grounded clean energy. It's could be clean energy, not dirty energy.
So when I look at a body, I believe every truly,

I believe every disease starts with some form of shock,
and shock begets irregular energy.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So shock is completely subjective.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
It can be opening a stressful text message or checking
a banked statement, or it can be getting the dreaded
phone call. It doesn't matter what it is. It's completely
subjective to the biology. But any level of shock has
a surge of voltage. Yeah, so we have the sharp
intake of breath or sometimes a holding of breath on
a clinching of jaw. These are all symptoms of a

surge of voltage and an irregular electrical pattern. Well, if
you're in a body that literally is unable to discharge
that lightning into the dirt and let it go, then
it's going to reverse its flow and you start to
get electrocuted on the inside. And if you even listen
to language around anxiety like this last week and I
had just an activating weekend just life, you know, and

I felt like I had this little tiny thumb pressing
on my thyroid right behind my throat, and it just
felt like this electrical tension. And I dealt with that
through breath work. I dealt with that through journaling. I
also dealt with that with energy medicine and testing. Okay,
which electrical pattern is not working? And part of it
was my grounding, So I made sure I was physically grounded.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
So it was the grounding. Why you me reb my
feet with spoons?

Speaker 3 (20:01):

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Okay, so can we talk about that because I came
home with metal spoons. I was like running around chasing
my kids, revving their feet. So my husband's like, what who.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
This woman that you?

Speaker 3 (20:13):

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Where's your feet? I gotta rub them with spoons? Yes? Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So you have this very dense electrical system called your
meridian system. This is the ancient Chinese system that they
identify that we access through acupressure and acupuncture among other things.
That's going to be like a wire in the house.
It is a fixed electrical current that travels through organ
systems and governs a lot of things. And those are

your ground where four of those acupuncture points on the
foot are discharge points.

Speaker 1 (20:41):

Speaker 3 (20:42):
So that's one system. There's another system that's going to
be called more like electromagnetic. So that's going to be
more like a magnet, okay, and that's a totally different
type of voltage pattern, a totally different type of energy
that you're working with. So an outlet as opposed to
a strong magnet. Right, So there's two different types of

physics happening. So A grounding is going to be you know,
working on those making sure that those outlets are functioning correctly.
B you're going to want to check that your electromagnetic
field has the north and south pole, just like if
you have two magnets that you're like, if you have
two magnets, you want to make sure it's flip flip

flipped right side up. Because Earth's grounding, Earth's dirt is
always a north polarity.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
She never changes her mind. She will always be north.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
But through stress and the divorcing of working and living
with nature, our electromagnetic fields can be disturbed and affected
so often, and I will say ninety nine percent of
clients who walk through my door the first time, whether
it's in person or a virtual session.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
That's the first thing I test.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I test to see is that big electromagnetic field that
is there. It covers our entire body, so you can
call it an aura. It's made up of your chakras.
But like you can see this online, anywhere you look at,
every living thing.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Has an electromagnetic blueprint.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
My first test is is northward North is supposed to
be at the top of the head and the south
was supposed to be at the bottom of the feet,
because if it's not, then you are electromagnetically repelling the earth.
Just like if you're pushing a magnet with another magnet
across the could you distart into the right. So it's
two systems I'm checking. I'm checking those electrical wires and

I'm checking the electromagnetic field because if your electromagnetic field
is upside down or disturbed, it's going to be really
hard to If you're real physically repelling the earth, that's
going to also affect the baridian system and those acupuncture points.
So with the nine there's nine different systems. Some of
them are really common you hear, like in the lay

terms with like chakras, energy centers, are electrics, meridian like
that kind of stuff. But then they have all these
other systems and they all interconnect, so one affects the other.
So that's why I'm going to test your big picture
electromagnetic field, make sure it's able to grab earth as
well as your murdy and system, because it's two different
energy types, got it, two different systems in the body.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
And I walked into your office and I was upsided
you're upside down, right, and that shows. But here's what's crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So the spoon is a concave stainless steel device, So okay,
science y.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It just happens to be shaped perfect perfectly.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, and it's a stainless steel you want to make,
Grab a magnet off your fridge, Grab any of your
spoons out of your drawer. What I love a big
cooking spoon. They feel delicious on the feet too. But
you want to see if you have a couple of
stainless steel spoons and then put them everywhere, because if
you rub that curved side, that bowl side, so you're
gonna flip that spoon upside down, rub it on the
bottom of your feet for like those really good twenty

to ninety seconds, and that has a direct effect on
an electromagnetic field pulling the south polarity downward toward it.
So rubbing your feet with it is correcting that electromagnetic field,
pulling that south polarity back toward the Earth so that
South can meet North and then they can connect, and
then it just is magic. The thing I love about

this work is it's macro to micro, macro to micro,
so it's like the big story and then the microplot
line like it's just so magical. So here's this big
story of the electromagnetic field, this big hole. But I
also know that every single cell connects through polarity. So
if your big picture polarity is off, and let's say

someone's experiencing anxiety or let's say insulin issues, well, an
insulin issue is a blood cell either attracting or rejecting
the sugar and insulin. Right, So there's this electromagnetic play
and maybe the information has begun to be disturbed and
one of those little magnets has flipped. Now, in energy medicine,

we don't treat specific illnesses. We treat the energies in
the context of those illnesses. So I'm not gonna say
I'm going to treat diabetes with and you're not going
to tell someone to stop. Is all the ethics, right,
But what I know is that matter follows energy, and
if we can work on the big picture grounding and

electromagnetic stability, that is going to have ripple effect to
the blood cell.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
So it's just kind of magic.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
It makes total s It is magic, and it's also
just such common sense. Yeah, once you start to understand
how and why it works. It's like, oh, this is
also like basics. Yes, we've just never thought to apply
it to our bodies.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So how do we do a better job of listening
to our bodies? I mean, one way is to book
an appointment with you, because I could tell a couple
of really fun stories and maybe we will at some
point about just stuff that came up in our sessions
that was like my body talking to me and in
my conscious brain. Things that my body said to me
were not in my conscious brain. And then yet when
you brought them up, or brought when my body brought

them to my attention. Then I've been able to clear
some really big, you know, shocks or traumas from my body.
I didn't know that they were there. I was attributing
the symptoms to like, you know, I think I brought
up in your office. I was just like, I had
a really traumatic birth with my daughter. That's probably what
it is. And my body's like, Nope, that's not what
we're going to go to thirteen.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, at a school desk. Yeah, you know, you just
never know what those things are.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, And I've been able to even all the therapy
in the world. I mean, Thank God for therapists. But
all the therapy in the world wouldn't have done it
for me because I couldn't have accessed the thirteen year
old incident without my body telling me look at thirteen
and look at church. Right. That was what my body
told me to do, right, and I would never in
a million years have gone there. And it literally, I

mean even in your office that day. I don't know
if you remember, but.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
You were like, oh that lands.

Speaker 2 (26:39):

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm like I don't I can't think of anything.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, And it wasn't until like six days later that
I was like, oh, now I know.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But that's what's when the body is ready to unfold
its story. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
So often that happens in my ofufice. Sometimes there's a
big wow moment and somebody has like aha. A lot
of times it's like two weeks later, I get a
call like, oh, week, crap, this just finally connected.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I just got it. And there's this ripple effect.

Speaker 2 (27:05):

Speaker 1 (27:05):
So as far as stepping in number one, spoon your feet.
If you spin your feet.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Daily, at least you know that you're the compass of
north and south in your being is in alignment, getting
making sure you're physically grounded, and.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
That way, when you're taking on new shocks, you're able to.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Discharge, yes, and you're able to start creating a coherent
pattern in the body instead of it. You know, shock
begets shot, beget shock, but so does healing beget healing
beget healing, So always starting there, and then it's the
basics of being a human, making sure you're walking, drinking
your water and having plenty of proteining like all those things.
Because if your physical body isn't cared for in those

basic human things that we often try to just avoid
and bypass spiritually or energetically, because that's a big thing
for me, you're not going to bypass the basics. So
you go back to the basics of eating, sleeping, pooping,
and walking in sun right, yeah, and making sure that
your whole body is well.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then it's silence.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
For me. No amount of prayer, meditation, journaling was able
to unlock what learning muscle testing and energy testing for
myself did. Kinesiology was my life changer. My trauma process
has always been disassociation and numbing. So I could stay
on the surface, but I couldn't hear my body the
depth that I think it would have taken.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
So I studied.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And I learned how to muscle test, and I have
a class. It's really easy to take and it's actually
really simple, but it is as a mix of science
and art to be able to assess with the pressure
of one muscle meeting another, where is coherence and where
is weakness. So that for me is I think if
everyone could spoon their feet and learn to muscle test,
we would have a totally different planet.

Speaker 1 (28:50):

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I mean, you taught me how to do it, which
I feel like I'm still Oh, it takes time, learn
lots of practice because it's art and science. It's like
like I did it in your office and I was like, oh, yeah,
you know, we muscle tested like oils and vitamins and
you know what supplements. I was asking, like do I
need to take an iron supplement? And it's like your
body will tell you whether you need to.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Begin to take sovereignty, and it's something to actually ask.
You can get immediate biofeedback from that tool. So I
think honestly experiencing energy testing and then whether it's in
person or remotely with a practitioner that's excellent at it.
So learning that taking the class.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Getting some books behind your class, and it's on my website.
I can send it to you. I think it's.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
On the website, and I think it's maybe on the
Calendarly is how I have it set up right now?
I will say, it's kind of funky because you're buying
a class and it's on my calendar, so you have
to like pick a time.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's kind of goofy.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Someday, when I grow up and get an assistant, I'm
going to get all my systems fixed. But for now,
you can book with me there and you can like
get my classes there. Okay, great, but the kinesiology muscle
testing classes will change your life completely. It's a game changer.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So that.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
But there's also a book called Energy Medicine by Donna
Eden that is a fantastic reference that is so beautifully written,
and you can read the very beginning chapters and you
can thumb through it to little boxes of like here's
energy medicine practices you can do on yourself. On Instagram,
I have the daily energy Hygiene routine post. It's pinned

at the top of my account. And if you just
do that and spoon your feet every day, it takes
seven minutes, you literally start to heal all. It touches
all nine energy systems. And when I tell you, over
the years of studying, every year I go in and
be like, I wonder if we're gonna get this super
soup up version because they just do the day teach

you the daily energy routine on day one and all
the reasons why it's great. And I was like, yeah,
but someday we're gonna get the advanced No, y'all, like
after years of doing this, like it's still the most
potent thing to do for your energies in the world
that I have ever found. It is consistent, it will.
It's what got me into this work. In addition to
the intuitive side. I just started doing it with a
couple of women daily, and my exhaus and burnout just

started to heal with no understanding what it was and why.
And so that's why I ended up exploring that modality
a lot more. And that's where I got all my
certifications through because there's such a respect to both the
science and the hygiene and the integrity and the ethics
and the woo woo, and the.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mystery is just a profound.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So anyway, if I were to just boil it down
and spoon your feet, do the basic human things. Sleep, eat, poop, walk,
get in the sun a daily eng hide, eat protein,
eat protein. Yeah yeah, those basics. We can't bypass and
heal trauma in a sick body. It's really hard to
do that. But also I believe it's a chicken in
the egg. So a lot of my physical healing happened

after I started doing energy healing, and then that opened
the doorway for like really deciding what the priority is
in my body. But like for me, I have this
tool of muscle testing, so I can muscle test every day, like, yeah,
I'll be really feeling off and I will energy test.
Is it the most beneficial right now in this moment
to go for a walk, to do a three minute

breath work session, to take a nap, to eat am
I dehydrate it? And I can know within ten seconds
exactly what is the one thing in my add overwhelmed
brain going back to my list of like all the
things I know could be good for me right now.
I'm also a homeschool mom of two teenagers, Like life
is full. Yeah, so I'm not going to tell anybody

like Okay, your first step is to go sit and
meditate for a freaking hour every day?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Like that is? Is it all accessible to most? Most
people know it? Is it also lovely? Sure? Yeah, I
would love to meditate for an hour to Day's be fabulous.
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, right, But there's there's the basics, and there are
energy medicine basics too.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I really appreciated that about you that during our first session.
One of the things you said to me that was
memorable was that you have people come into your office
who were like, Okay, tell me what Crystal, I need,
Like tell you know, like I think I should do
a you know, a mushroom journey or tripsychedelics or whatever.
And you're just like, hold on, wait before we jump
to like all the because that's what we were talking

about before, where people people want to have access to
the spiritual and they want to be connected, which is
a basic human desire and it comes out in a
lot of different ways, Like it could be either like
woo woo New Age kind of spiritual stuff, or it
could be like religion or whatever, but we all have
this need or desire to connect to the divine and
yet if we aren't doing just the basic human stuff first,

like just eat, sleep, evenenough protein, go for a walk,
that sort of thing. If we're not doing that, then
how could we ever have the experiences? Yeah, how could
we ever connect?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I've been hearing lately as I've been like just especially
in my journaly and like prayer, this remembering of and
whisper of the divine of the Creator's voice saying, if
you'll just turn your ear to me, just turn your ear,
just lean in and listen. This vessel have created is perfect,

and it's such holy work to tend the vessel. And
the hearing comes through that. And so when we tune
our instrument, like when we take that guitar and tune
the D string so that it can resonate with all
of these notes being played in the universe, the voice
of the Creator, all of these things we can tune.

We were designed with a physical body. If God had
wanted to make us just spirits, he would have left
us in spirit. Right, there is a mystery that will
never be solved of I will make you in my image.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
He whispered over the face of the deep.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
You know, and then matter, so that we have to
honor the matter, and in doing.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
That it is a word. It is sacred work.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Honestly, to motivate myself, I have to create ritual around
a lot of those things, which I think is a
beautiful way to connect with a divine. So whether it's
like I have a couple of scents that I love,
like a flower essence, and I'll be like, it's my
walking time, I will spray this so it helps me
really tune into the sacredness of it. Or even if

it's like when I'm doing desk work for my kids
or clients, when I'm having to go into that masculine
container of like actioning and doing, I have this very
specific candle I light and a little something I burned
for a split second that turns on my five sentences
and it helps me to lean and turn my ear
in to allow that, Okay, this can be sacred too.

And so that's just my own personal thing. But I
from me, ritual and beauty is just a lifeline to
the divine and how I experience that infusion of presence,
and it can apply to anything you can literally put it.
I have special drops to put next to my water
because I desperately need them.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
My muscle test not.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Necessarily, but for me it's like, yeah, how can I
remember that it all is all sacred and it all
round you?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And yeah, it keeps you grounded. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
The muscle testing thing is something I'm really curious to
keep practicing with because I've been so shocked how often
my body tells me something different than what I thought.
It's not like my body tells me something different and
then I sit with it and I think like, no, actually,
I was really right the first time. It's like I
sit with it and I go, oh, my gosh, I

was on the wrong path. I was doing it the
wrong I was doing it in a way that I
thought was good or that someone else tried, and I
was sort of, you know, that seemed good in one way,
but I was like almost like putting on someone else's
genes or something where it's like totally not morally wrong,
but just not the right fit, right.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Fit, not right for me.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
But your body is expressing it's fit, is asking all
the time, like hey, this would actually be the Other
thing I love about energy is that it's always expressing
toward health and vitality. Energy wants to move, is eager
to move. It's easy to work with the bottoms of
our hands have all of the magnetic power we need
to work with all nine systems. And my teacher, doctor

Sarah Allen, you have to look up her stuff. She's ok, exquisite,
but she used to always say, listen, working with energy
is like just opening up a door full of a
room full of puppies and tossing a tree.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's just that complicated. They're all gonna move so.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Once you can just figure out where the beaver dams are,
where's the locked door and the room full of puppies.
Energy is just excited puppies ready to go live its life,
express your essence and be in vitality and joy. And honestly,
the other reason I chose the modality to study I
did was because I watched the women as the teachers,
and they were all women in their like fifties, sixties

and seventies who were happy, healthy, horny, ridiculous, hysterical and
liked each other. And I was like, this is a
picture of like bad ask women living their best life.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And what she's having make it a double thank you,
and and it was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
And then after sitting with these especially this two immediate teachers.
I've sat with them for four years now and I've
gotten to watch them go through different things in life,
and you know what, it's all real.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It is all freaking real.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
And so energy always moves toward vitality always, and so
when we start to follow it and support it, it
will just lead us. Our body is always saying, yeah, actually,
there's more life in that direction.

Speaker 1 (38:31):

Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's not usually like we're going to lead you toward
restriction and discipline. Now I'm being led right now toward
discipline to support vitality.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Is that context? Instead of okay, Elizabeth, you are this.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Woo woo little mystic fairy child that needs to now
go sit in a corner with your box and learn
how to fill in the blanks, it's more like, hey,
so you're a.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Wild vine more life.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
We're going to need to build this structure of lattice
work so that the vine can reach the sky and
be in the sun and express completely. So we're going
to need to rebuild some of these things here to
create structure for that vitality. But it's a totally different
energy than what I think I need, which is like,
can someone please teach me how to be an organized type.

So it's just always moving us toward joy, is always
moving us toward vitality and a magical experience of wonder,
which is why an invitation to wonder is my like
name for everything. It'll be the name of my book,
it's the name of my website, it's the name of
my innstry. It's just because for me, everything points to wonder,
Like if we can look for wonder, we find it.

And that experience of joy and bliss, when you experience
that sharp in tail of breath around wonder and alle.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
It's like it nourishes everything else.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, And I feel like the body is always speaking,
beauty is always speaking that frequency of wonder.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
We just tune into it. Why do we shut that out?
Why do we shut it out?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I think there's a part of it that I think
about of like the value of being serious and being
taken seriously is a part of my story. And I
think about the number of hours of my childhood I spent,
Like where I grew up had this exquisite brick wall.
There was moss and little tiny, tiny ferns that would

grow out of the cracks and crevices, and I would
spend hours making up stories, staring at the cracks.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Of the brick.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, and just in all and wonder of life coming
out of these tight places. And you know, then it's like, okay,
but I'm not good at math, and so we end
up starting spending so much time, energy and effort to
get better at the thing that we're not good at.
And then now I'm almost forty two, and when I
really think about when my essence is most expressed, it's

with a person or with a situation or where I
am seeing two rocks grinding together and I'm like, oh,
but look there's life there.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah. And I'm like, oh my gosh, little like seven
year old Elizabeth was like, it's all about life and
the cracks.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yes, for life that comes out of impossible places.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, and it will find a way. Life will always
find a way.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
And there's so much value in looking for that, which
I think to go back to, like into like medicine
and holistic So often in health management we often are
focusing on what's the problem, looking for where the problem
or the symptom is, instead of tuning into where is
the health, trying to express the vitality and where's just

the blockage for that so yeah, there's just there's so
much there.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, why do we why do we mute that?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I resonate with what you said about Well, the way
I would say it is like you're listening to the
story the world is telling about you, or telling for you,
rather than the one that's trying to be told through you. Ooh,
that's so good. You should write a book about it.
I should have one coming out my seventh Yeah. Wait,
but you know, one of the things that came up
in one of our sessions was I remember saying to
you that I had asked my husband if he would

call me a free spirit and he laughed, and I
was like, man, somewhere deep inside of me, I am
a free spirit. I expressed as a type. So I
told you that at the beginning of the session. And
then later in the session we were muscle testing and
you were asking my body about a shock that you
had found in one of my systems. I don't remember
it was in my heart or whatever, and my body
said that it was something you had asked, Can I

ask the age? And it said no, And he said
usually when the body says no, it means it was
kind of all ages. And then you were asking, like
what area did this happen in? And you tested a
few different areas and landed on education, and so you
were like, what happened in your education system? That feels
significant to you? And it was like the first thing
that came to my mind was just the way that
as a young woman, I had to choose between being

the like weird creative artist that I was and being
successful at school. And I chose being successful at school
because it was a way to get appreciation and praise
and attention from my parents and you know, like feel good,
felt very validating from my teachers and whatever else. And
so I feel like if there's a path that's split,

and it's like I could either be this version of
myself that was like my truest essence that like I'm
a free spirit, Like I'm late places, I'm like I
love to just sort of like wander in the woods,
like making a flower crown like that.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh my god, that's like my truest essence.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
And yet, you know, my husband laughed when I asked
if he thought I was a free spirit because the
way that I express is I'm absurdly on time places,
I'm you know, like very regimented. I've got I have
a lot of discipline. I get up and work out
in the morning. I do all the things. And so
different from you where you're like living in your fairyland
and you're like, maybe it would be helpful to have
some structure to kind of help me to grow, I

feel like I'm in opposite Yeah, And like, in what
ways can I let go of what other people need
me to be or what the world told me that
I should be, or getting attention and approval and praise
and just do it the fun way, Like, just do
it the way that sounds good to like my five
year old heart right now, which is almost always kind
of absurd to the structure.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
And so I feel like.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I'm doing that work in my life and it's really liberating.
And also I can see why I made the choices
that I did, because the part of me that knew
how to jump through the hoops is dying, and it
means that I don't get the validation and attention that
was fueling that part of me. And so she's kind
of like it's almost like a funeral for her, like

she's slowly dying, and I'm like, that was nice wasn't
it when everybody loved us because we always did the right.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Thing, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
It's like, okay, but there's this other world where I
can do what really speaks to my heart and it's
a different kind of validation, attention, satisfact.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Nis faction for you, because that's the thread, right.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah. Like my core belief, like my gut belief, is
that every single human on this earth has a silver
thread within that is their story, that is the expression
of their essence, their note to sing in the symphony
of the universe. Yes, that can only be sung by them.
And most of us spend, especially as a women, like

forty years trying on everybody else's.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Note and being quiet.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
And then there's this experience of remembering that there is
a note to sing, and that place of letting go
what was dampening and muting that expression of your essence.
Like that's what all the creation has been yearning to
hear from you all along. It's been like, what when

will she sing that note? We need that harmony?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Come on, you can see, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
And life and our bodies will press it. It will
press it out, It will press it out in a
symptom in our bodies. It will press it out in
a symptom, and our emotions, it'll press it out in
numbness where you eventually go something isn't working, yeah, and
I'm not okay or I am stuck. And then we

begin to listen and lean in in whatever way. And
so for some people, I mean, it's gonna look different
for every single person, every single person. For my husband
is going to bed at seven thirty every night, and
it's like this ritual. It's like between seven thirty and
eight thirty, he's in bed and it's like his spiritual
practice of like.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Going to sleep with the sun.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But then I tell you what it has unlocked for
him and the person he is. That's not my journey,
but guess what it is. Yeah, And I'm learning so
much through it, and it's created a whole new rhythm
and our home of value. That thing is that So
the ripple effects of you doing what you're doing right, yeah,
is so infinitely profound. We'll never know, We'll never know,

I'll never know important it is for you to go
back to your essence and to begin to sing that note,
that expression of who you are into the world and
what you're going to create, and the ripple effects into
all of the other stories that you're going to get
to mother through all of these other writers and all
of this, all the whole path. Yeah, it changes, and

the whole world starts to flourish. As you let go
of your shock from your feet, things wake up and.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Then I follow the life in me. Yes, gives life.
It gives everything that I touch.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Everything, It just unfolds and unfolds and life becaus life
because life so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
It's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
What a crazy thing that we get to do, just
live here and figure this shit out be human beings.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Like what, It's so good. It's so good. And I
just love when like orbits collide. Like when I met you,
I was like, oh, hello, old friend. I know it
truly felt like that good.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, yeah, fun, because it's if we're all doing this
this work, whether we know it or not. Yes, facets
of the same diamond. It's social like over here on
my facet and like I'm doing this thing and somebody
else I'm working with music, and I'm working with movement,
and I'm working with ANMRI machine, and I'm working with
the pen and paper and it's like we're all we're

all chiosling away on our side of the diamond, and
it's like everything more beautiful.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
It's the reason I wanted to have you on the
show is because as we were working together, I was like,
you're doing what I'm doing, which is helping people find
that thread. And in publishing we call it the one
golden thread. Oh really, Yes, when you're working on a memoir,
you're working on a book, you want to find the
one golden thread. This is like the one thing that
you want, the popcorn trail that you want the reader
to follow from the start to the finish. There's such

a parallel to our lives and meeting you, I was like,
you know what's interesting is you might think you're following
the popcorn trail and you're actually following the one golden
thread that the world is trying to take you on,
and you've completely lost track of Yeah, you're golden thread.
And you may not realize it, but your body will.
Your body will speak to you and tell you it's like, oh, hey,

you're in the hospital with the kidney surgery. Like this
is wake up call siren going off, you know, like
pay attention, listen to me. To what's going on here,
and I'm going to take you back home. And I
think a lot of times, I think, especially when I
was experiencing the kidney surgery and everything that went along
with that season of my life, it was like, oh,
the blows, they just keep coming, you know. It's felt

like that for the last five years. And when I
frame the story this way, I go, oh, this was
actually a great grace that my body would not shut up.
She was not going to let me lose the trail
that I was supposed to be on. She was like, no,
that essence must be expressed.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah, and we're not going to go toward that block
wall where it's just gonna stay stuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, I'm gonna go throward life every time.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Okay, So aside from the basics the water, food, walk,
poop your feet, daily energy routine, what's one thing that
someone who's listening to this could do today that would
help bring them back home to their own golden thread.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Why don't you just take a minute and put hand
on belly, like right over the belly button or womb space,
and one hand on the heart and take two breaths
in tune into the heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Just for a minute, and where your hand is on
your belly is over this magical lock box where the
body keeps the score of every delight and creative idea
and every giggle you ever giggled. So there's a place
where the body keeps the score of all of those
things to and it's right under that hand on your belly,
And this hand on your heart is touching your destiny

and your purpose and passion and your calling. And just
imagine for a second that you have a figure eight,
a golden thread connecting your womb and your heart, that
you connect the two together and then leave your hand
on your heart and then tap the outside of your
hand with your other hands. So bring your hand off

your belly and tap your hand with your other hand
in a heartbeat rhythm. And that point brings coherence to
anxiety and panic and fear to just move energy around
an your resistance or fear of connecting your joy and
giggles and with your purpose.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Let's just take that minute and then notice if you
feel any different, that's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
So if you connect that joy, creativity, resonance, childlike wonder
with the heart's purpose and destiny, and then move a
little energy around fear and resistance, and things start to move,
the energy starts to move.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
We just crack the door open the room of puppies.
The puppies are going wild. Oh it's so good.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's crazy how the simplest thing can make a big difference,
such a difference. Thank you so much for having this
conversation with me. Thanks for being here, Thanks for sharing
your insight and your wisdom. Thank you for helping me
find my thread, heal my body, listen to my body.
My honor doing that for so many people. Witness It's

my favorite thing to watch. It's just the best book
I've ever read. And how cool that I just saw
you on Ruthie Lindsay's Instagram and was like boot boot Boot,
like Connect Friends, podcasts like Done. I just it just
gives me confidence to keep following the impulses because yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Because they're going to lead you to a life. I
love it. I love it so much. Where can we
find you? Say? Your your website and I'll put it
in there.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And and invitation to wonder dot com perfect and it's
an invitation to wonder on Instagram tape.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Okay, I will put that in the show notes. Thank
you so much Elizabeth, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Thank you,
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The Nikki Glaser Podcast

The Nikki Glaser Podcast

Every week comedian and infamous roaster Nikki Glaser provides a fun, fast-paced, and brutally honest look into current pop-culture and her own personal life.

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