This week in PREVIOUSLY ON! Jason and Rosie are taking a look at the final trailer for Fantistic Four and talking Pixar’s lowest opening yet with Elio, is there Pixar fatigue? Then we discuss Jon Beranthal’s return to Punisher in the next Spider Man: Brand New Day AND beloved director of DUNE Denis Villeneuve taking the reigns on the next James Bond film. We ask ourselves, who would we like to see as the next bond girl?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode, we're talking about John Bernhal's return, I'm
not Sure and more.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's news News.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello. My name is Jascon Septi and I'm Rosy Night
and welcome back to x Ready Vision, the podcast where
we dived your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture
company from my Ora podcast. We we're bringing you three
episodes a.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Week, News on Saturday. In today's previously on News episode,
we are catching up on the biggest stories of the week,
including Pixar's lowest box office opening yet with Elio. The
Pixar crew are saying it's hard to make an original
movie right now. I don't know if that's the case.
We've seen it with Sinners, but we're going to be
(00:54):
talking about that. And this one's pretty crazy. I did
not expect this one. It's the newly confound director of
the next James Bond film, and you may have heard
of him.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
First. Up, we get the final trailer for Fantastic Four,
which is opening shortly.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It captures the.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Family vibe and kind of the lightness around this film. Yes,
not too much new, but we do see the thing
with kind of like a rocky beard.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You see a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The get Baby Franklin.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We get Baby franklinby Franklin certainly one of the most
powerful individuals in the MCU if if the comics or
anything to go by, and we get some shots of glackness.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay, So I think this kind of like this kind
of like hints at what I think that they're doing
in this movie. This is my theory is there was
a comic called Fantastic Four Life Story Mark Russell and
Sean is a cassee on AH and it basically was like,
(02:01):
what if Fantastic Four was told like Love and Rockets
where they age over the decades and you actually see
them age and you learn about these stories. Right. I
feel like this movie is gonna do at least a
little bit of that call, Yeah, because I think if
we see it, we're seeing her pregnant, We're seeing her
with baby Franklin, We're seeing them with this beard. I
wonder how much of their lives we're gonna see on
(02:23):
this earth. I also will say this trailer, I think
also for me, sums up the challenges of this movie,
which is the movie is the Fantastic Four the most hopeful,
optimistic science like pure heroes, the Marvel's First Family, as
(02:43):
we call them, but it's quite clear that their world
is gonna get destroyed. So I think there's like an
interesting balance here between like what we expect of a
Fantastic four movie and then this kind of darker Galactus
plot line, which we are all assuming is gonna kind
of end with that planet being destroyed and them having
to you know, come to the main MCU. So I
(03:05):
think there's an interesting kind of balance here between that
lightness that we expect, that retro futuristic optimism that they're
kind of showing on this Earth, but also the fact
that it looks like things are going to go badly.
So I think that is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It looks like things are going to go badly. And
I will say one of the themes of Fantastic four stories,
like certainly over the last thirty ish years, is that
Read of course, is a super genius, arguably the smartest
(03:40):
or certainly one of the two or three smartest people
in the MCU and the Marvel Comics universe. But he's always,
much like Tony creating Ultron, he's always kind of causing
the issues that the Fantastic for them have to solve. Yeah,
And so I wonder how. I think a lot. I
(04:01):
think from the the sense I get from the other trailers,
and the way Reed reacts to this challenge of Galactys
tells me that something he did need this happen.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Definitely, this trailer I think heavily leans into that too.
I'm very intrigued. I feel one like this year is
going so fucking fast, and I can't believe that we're
basically at the biggest moment in summer, which is gonna
kind of I think showcase just how much audiences still
really want superhero movies. We're gonna see it with Superman,
(04:34):
We're gonna see it with Fantastic Four. It's gonna be
whether or not we want it to be. It's kind
of kind of be like a statement on that with
however they go. So it feels really surreal. But I
will say Galactus looking great, huge, big boy, not a
smoke monster Reed. We get to see his stretching for
the first time here. They didn't make him stretch flat.
(04:55):
He's got the kind of the more you know, circular
sphericles stretch, which I think is interesting but looks good. Also,
was making a lot of jokes about this when I
was with Joelle recently at a very fun event we
did with a bunch of other people, which is like,
what if that's the only time we see Reid stretch
because like they never they yeah, he's got a stretch more.
But I will say, you know, this is the crazy
(05:17):
world we live in. The I think about this story
a lot. And look, guys, you're not going to be
surprised to hear me say this, but obviously I am
like obsessed with the really really crazy Cats movie that
they made like five years ago, that they thought could
go up against Star Wars at Christmas and is absolutely
one of the most arranged movies you've ever seen. But
I think about that a lot because the Tom Hooper,
(05:38):
the director, had not seen a finished version of the
movie with Finnish CG on the night he went to
see the premiere. Why right, And that was due to
the fact that they were trying to do this like
digital furd technology. They were like struggling with their CG.
But I think one of my worries about Fantastic Four
is I do feel like part of the reason that
we haven't seen a lot of it is I think
(05:59):
that they're there is still stuff being done to it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I completely agree, and.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I feel for those creators, those digital artists who are
working on the movie at this last minute situation. I
bet that's really stressful, and I worry because I want
this movie to be amazing. But you know what, it's
looking good. I'll tell you my big critique about this though.
Why is I'm guessing at Charla Ball, you know, the
female Silver Supper? Why she got I makeup and like lipstick,
(06:25):
Like that was so weird, Like she's got like, I'm like,
you don't need that. She could just be a shiny baldhead,
just like the origidal Silver Soup.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm gonna maintain my optimism and not discuss my kind
of disappointment on how Chalia looks, but.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's for later. It's hard, it's hard to do. I
don't think she needed makeup. I don't think she needed
like funny makeup for this stuff. But you know what,
I love the character Shalla Ball. Let's give it a try.
Let's see how it goes up next.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Uh Oh in an era in which kids movies are dominating.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh, he has been a year for domination.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Minecraft Leelo and Stitch a live action version the How
To Train Your Dragon. Yep, it might be a live
action era, as much as we've kind of criticized it
because elioh is now Pixar's lowest opening film ever crazy
(07:24):
it opened to twenty one domestic fourteen internationally. That's about
forty three forty four million on a budget of one
hundred and fifty and that's I wonder if we've quietly
entered an era in which kids love kids movies, but
they want to see the live action version.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I also, I also do think that this was something
similar happened with Elemental in twenty twenty three. But though
Elemental open to forty four point five mil globally, it
had like incredibly long legs, ended up being a massive success.
I just wonder if I think what Pixar has really
lost is that first weekend like you have to see it.
(08:09):
That used to be how it was, it's the new
Pixar movie, you have to see it. I don't think
we have that now. I think mums and the people
who are making the decisions to take their kids to
these movies are actually like waiting till they read the reviews,
which for Ilo over positive. Overall, it's about a kid
who wants to go into space. I'm in, let's see
if it has the kind of legs that Elemental did,
(08:30):
which is actually like I've watched with my niece and nephew,
is actually like a really great movie, So I'll see.
I knew a few kids who were very excited about this,
but also this wasn't a movie I got invited to screen,
so I always wonder, like how they're feeling about it.
I don't think Pixar just as name recognition has the juice,
but I still think that from like Luca, a movie
(08:52):
I really love that I thought was very underrated that
didn't get a cinematic release, I would have loved to
see that, and Elemental, I don't necessarily think Pixar is done,
but I think the name recognition of Pixar to fill
a seat like fill seats on opening, it's not what
it was. That's done, Like that part of it is done.
You have to make a great movie and that well,
(09:13):
I mean that's to me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's to me is the concern because the reviews for
Elliot or good. Elemental to your point was good. It's
actually really good, but there's none. The response is not there.
The response is muted. Joelle in the chat is telling
us that the marketing is limited. I agree, you certainly
(09:35):
didn't see the marketing push that you saw with Dragon
Or and certainly not Minecraft, which was like you could
not avoid it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And also I feel like there's so much excitement that
they could have built around it. But yeah, it's very
true that the marketing is kind of limited. We don't
know what they mean. And also something else that I
think is that this we are living in an era
now where DreamWorks exists, where you can go on netl
and you can just watch like an incredible animated movie.
(10:03):
You can go on Apple TV Plus and watch wolf
Walker is one of the best animated movies ever made
by the Fantastic Cartoon Saloon. So it's like it to
me the Pixar who created Toy Story, who made the
first ever fully CGI movie, that era of it is gone,
(10:24):
Like people do not necessarily respond to them in the
same way. But I also think it's good that they're
trying to tell original stories and not just relying on
your Toy Story twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I think I'm just what I'm responding to is the
fact that, as we mentioned, kids Movie is kind of
dominating at the box.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Officer's crazy that this didn't open to like sixty mil
just because kids wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Also, Minecraft and Lelo and Stitch are the biggest dude
you know movies currently, not counting the Nija to the
Chinese movie that is breaking all kinds of records.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And think about Marie movie last year.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
But I don't know how to train your Dragon. I
feel like got about the same sort of marketing push
that Elio got, at least to my I even clunched
the numbers, but anecdotally I saw it, yeah out there
about the same as Elio. So I wonder if to
your point, there's not there's been some sort of generational
loss about the the brand has like lost its luster,
(11:25):
as like other previous fans of Pixar have kind of
aged out, and there's been not been that property to
establish Pixar as a name. I think you're right about that,
And I also wonder like, unless you have something like Minions,
are our kids have they moved on to? Is live
action kind of like the thing that yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Also is live action the thing they want to go
to the cinema for right and animation is what they
watch at home. They watch the thoughts before they go
to bed. They rewatched The Cat in the Hat, Green
Eggs and Hamshow on Netflix, which is one of the
most popular shows on that they watch these things at home.
I don't know if they're drawing them out as much
to the theaters. And I do think the Pixar name
(12:07):
recognition unless you're talking about like a Monster's inc. Or
you know, something like that, And a lot of the
animated movies that people love from Disney Now Cars, etc.
Like Pixar stuff like that, those have almost become their
own thing. They're not even like within that realm. I'm
interested to see if this has the legs, and I
also still need to see it, so like is it good?
(12:28):
But yeah, I do think that there is a distinct
lack of rush or excitement to go and see the
new Pixar movie. It's not a water cooler moment anymore
in the way they used to be.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Let's go to a quick break and when we come back,
we'll be talking James barn.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And we're back.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, what but the Denny Villeneuve cray of the Dune
franchise of many other incredible films, including Sacario, I will
direct the next James Bond film, and boy, I'm excited.
(13:19):
I think this will be like listen, I don't know
what this will mean, but I'm excited to see what
this will look like. I think Denny is one of
the most talented filmmakers currently working, and we're going to
see what this is.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I am incredibly interested by this because I feel
like he's very much in that Daniel Craig kind of vibe.
I feel like we're going to see beautiful locations. I
feel like it's Denny, So it's probably not going to
have that campy humor. I hope. I want that weirdness.
(14:00):
I want to know, like, James Bond has a roster
of incredibly strange villains, and I would absolutely love to
see kind of what Denny chooses for that. Also, this
is going to be the first time that we're not
kind of overseen by the Broccolis, the family of the
guy who originally wrote the James Bond stuff, who recently
kind of sold most of the James Bond writes to Amazon.
(14:22):
So I think Denny's going to be able to make
something really weird. I hope it's really fun. Okay, we
also do not know yet who the new James Bond
is gonna be. So, Jason, what are your like top
three picks for who you would put in as James Bond? Act?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't even know anymore, I truly don't. I I
the Aaron Taylor Johnson thing is interesting to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Me only I think he's great. I would love to
see that. I think him and Denny could be weird together.
There's been a lot of chatter around Aaron Pierre, who
we know is going to be playing Stewa. He's also
fantastic in Rebel Ridge, so it makes a lot of
sense if you've watched that, why you would think of that. Obviously.
Aaron Taylor Johnson recently did make everyone get really excited
(15:05):
because at twenty eight years Later Premiere they asked him
what he's doing next and he said he can't talk
about it, So that sounds very coded. Also, I guess
Pis Brosnan was like, Tom Hardy should play James Bond,
and I'm like, okay, I that would be weird as shit,
But I love Tom Hardy, so I'm interested to see
where it goes. And I think that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
THEO James, THEO James, THEO James who you can see
in What d What is he? I think he's in
an ad for Range Rover. I know you remember him
from White Lotus too, of course, and actually stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He would be really good at, like that you're kind
of a dick James Mark.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, like thee Terrible, the slimy James Bond. Henry Cavill
has often been talked about this, so I think it
were a little too late for Henleary Cavell. Jack Loudon yep,
I know, I so joy Jack loud work on on
slow horses and other things.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think you touch on something a lot of people
have been talking about too, which is like, what wouldn't
it be great to have an actor who maybe isn't
like a totally known name, so like a Jack Cloud,
and it allows people to kind of he gets to
create his whole new version of Bond that is going
to be different because not everyone knows him, you know,
(16:27):
not He's not an instantly recognized person. I mean they're
still thrown around the names like Drissel but I love
dress Alba, but that man, how old is James gonna be?
Bro like reggae?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
On page?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, you know Drion's reggae.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
On page Daniel Koluia.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh well, Daniel, come on now, we're talking to my language.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Let me just say they should do it. They'll never
f they don't have the fun. Okay, what about this,
and then certainly are not going to do it as
the first post Broccoli Bard exactly. Okay, so it's safe
and White Bond for it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, what is I I did say this, and I
probably shouldn't put out into the universe, but I do
think it's funny. Denny. Who's he most recently been working with. Okay,
Timothy Shallow May James Bond, imagine that Timmy, I mean
Timmy James Bond.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think it would be a huge controversy in Europe.
I think that would be a big I think it
would be a huge It would be a scandal, and
I think it would be a scandal. I think I
think the Brits would be really, really mad.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But you know what, We've had an American, We've had
an English Superman at this point, so yeah, I'm I'm
very interested. I trust the need to make a weird,
cool choice, and uh yeah, I bet that every single
person in Hollywood right now is calling up Andrew agents. Okay, Now,
Andrew Garfield, I would love to see it because he's
(17:50):
always think.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like a kind of like gawky, kind of but like
charming James Bond. I think that could be interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And also like if his Andrew Garfield the kind of
like version we see of him in like a Spider Man,
where he's kind of a little bit more of a
he's a little bit more of like a nerdy awkward
that could be a great kind of front for a spy,
but then the real spy is something totally different, exciting.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Rosie who what about Bond girls? Who should be the
next Bond girl? I'm gonna I'm gonna say there's gonna
be two Bond girls in the next Bond Okay, And
who do you think it will be? Or who would
you like to see?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay? I think they're number one Bond ladies. Bond option
right now is a bond option is Gobby Sidney Sweeney.
She's the one that everyone's talking about. She has the
juice soup. I think I think from her horror stuff
that she has done, which has been really interesting and
strange and quite subversive, I think that in a Denny
(18:53):
Villa new Bond movie. I think she could do something
really interesting. I would also say immediately, I think if
they wanted to keep it connect to the last one,
having that Ana Damas character comeback could be really interesting.
But Joelle did put this across to me, and I
think if the Bond is age appropriate, I would love
to see it. A little Zendaya as a Bond girl.
I would like before she's an action star, and as
(19:15):
long as the other the Bond actor is in like
their thirties or whatever, I think that's like an appropriate
and fun Bond girl moment. What about you?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay, well, listen, I've there's been a lot of names
out there, and I like a bunch of them. Margaret
Quayley has been Oh, they've talked about really, they talked
about Emma Mackie, who I like. Yeah, but Jody Comer,
who actually I think would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a big curve.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Ball, Okay, I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Keiky Palmer, Yes, Oh my gosh, that's the kind of
James Bomb movie I want to see.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I think she has the jew She's got the fucking
she can be like the.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
American wild card. Cia and fbi age and something, and
I think she has the juice for a role like this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I truly do. I do. Okay, Aaron just said Dakota Johnson, which,
like Aaron just called herself.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I don't like to listen as a I I just
think Dakota Johnson much respect to her.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
She's the Johnson.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
He's always just Dakota Johnson is too flat for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know what's an affect? I'm loving, Oh a boost
I Rebecca Ferguson now, I would love to see that
Rebecca Ferguson James Bond mother with like Aaron Taylor Johnson.
I'm feeling chemistry, I'm feeling age appropriate relationships. I'm feeling
I'm feeling like someone is going to make sure that
the casting doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
If yah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's x ray off the Dark bab on.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Our Patreon only right after dark. We will discuss that
and other matters. Exciting, exciting, saying, okay up. Next last
bit of news, John Burr will turn as the Punisher
in spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Incredibly, I love this. This is where the Punisher was
first introduced was in Spider Man comics. He was a
Spider Man villain. I think Tom Holland and John Berntham
are going to be so good together. I also think
it's cute because when we were talking about this in
the group chat, I think it was Aaron who brought
up but they had both like kind of helped each
other out on the set of a movie when they
(21:26):
were trying to when they were both kind of auditioning
for well, I think especially when Tom was auditioning for
Spider Man, and they kind of helped each other. So
I love the idea that that's going to be like
a little reunion for them. I think that Punisher's role
in this movie is probably going to first be as
an antagonist he's being too violent, but will eventually become
(21:50):
like a mentor, probably will become somebody that Peter trusts.
I'm guessing as this goes on. Also Ironheart, there's gonna
definitely be some questions about what Brand New Day is
gonna be about and how it's gonna play out. So
I'm very interested. I love John Bernthorp's Punisher, and I
(22:12):
hope this maybe allows him to do a little more
joke He never gets to be jokey in the movie,
but in the We got some really great banter between
him and Matt in The Dead Devil in the New
Dad Devil Show Born Again, So I am excited to
see maybe a little bit of that come to come
(22:33):
to Spider Mandy. Come on, Spidy, Come on, Spidy, what
are you doing? What you do with Man? And I'm
hoping as well that this fits into kind of the
idea that this is going to be Peter as he's older,
a little bit older. Maybe he's a teacher. He can
hang around with an adult like John Bernthorpe because he
is an adult.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh, it's pretty exciting, pretty exciting, And the fact they
announced it like this, I don't think it's like a cameo.
I think this is the main secondary character in this screen.
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On today's episode, we're talking about John Bernhal's return, I'm
not Sure and more.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's news News.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello. My name is Jascon Septi and I'm Rosy Night
and welcome back to x Ready Vision, the podcast where
we dived your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture
company from my Ora podcast. We we're bringing you three
episodes a.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Week, News on Saturday. In today's previously on News episode,
we are catching up on the biggest stories of the week,
including Pixar's lowest box office opening yet with Elio. The
Pixar crew are saying it's hard to make an original
movie right now. I don't know if that's the case.
We've seen it with Sinners, but we're going to be
(00:54):
talking about that. And this one's pretty crazy. I did
not expect this one. It's the newly confound director of
the next James Bond film, and you may have heard
of him.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
First. Up, we get the final trailer for Fantastic Four,
which is opening shortly.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It captures the.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Family vibe and kind of the lightness around this film. Yes,
not too much new, but we do see the thing
with kind of like a rocky beard.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You see a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The get Baby Franklin.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We get Baby franklinby Franklin certainly one of the most
powerful individuals in the MCU if if the comics or
anything to go by, and we get some shots of glackness.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay, So I think this kind of like this kind
of like hints at what I think that they're doing
in this movie. This is my theory is there was
a comic called Fantastic Four Life Story Mark Russell and
Sean is a cassee on AH and it basically was like,
(02:01):
what if Fantastic Four was told like Love and Rockets
where they age over the decades and you actually see
them age and you learn about these stories. Right. I
feel like this movie is gonna do at least a
little bit of that call, Yeah, because I think if
we see it, we're seeing her pregnant, We're seeing her
with baby Franklin, We're seeing them with this beard. I
wonder how much of their lives we're gonna see on
(02:23):
this earth. I also will say this trailer, I think
also for me, sums up the challenges of this movie,
which is the movie is the Fantastic Four the most hopeful,
optimistic science like pure heroes, the Marvel's First Family, as
(02:43):
we call them, but it's quite clear that their world
is gonna get destroyed. So I think there's like an
interesting balance here between like what we expect of a
Fantastic four movie and then this kind of darker Galactus
plot line, which we are all assuming is gonna kind
of end with that planet being destroyed and them having
to you know, come to the main MCU. So I
(03:05):
think there's an interesting kind of balance here between that
lightness that we expect, that retro futuristic optimism that they're
kind of showing on this Earth, but also the fact
that it looks like things are going to go badly.
So I think that is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It looks like things are going to go badly. And
I will say one of the themes of Fantastic four stories,
like certainly over the last thirty ish years, is that
Read of course, is a super genius, arguably the smartest
(03:40):
or certainly one of the two or three smartest people
in the MCU and the Marvel Comics universe. But he's always,
much like Tony creating Ultron, he's always kind of causing
the issues that the Fantastic for them have to solve. Yeah,
And so I wonder how. I think a lot. I
(04:01):
think from the the sense I get from the other trailers,
and the way Reed reacts to this challenge of Galactys
tells me that something he did need this happen.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Definitely, this trailer I think heavily leans into that too.
I'm very intrigued. I feel one like this year is
going so fucking fast, and I can't believe that we're
basically at the biggest moment in summer, which is gonna
kind of I think showcase just how much audiences still
really want superhero movies. We're gonna see it with Superman,
(04:34):
We're gonna see it with Fantastic Four. It's gonna be
whether or not we want it to be. It's kind
of kind of be like a statement on that with
however they go. So it feels really surreal. But I
will say Galactus looking great, huge, big boy, not a
smoke monster Reed. We get to see his stretching for
the first time here. They didn't make him stretch flat.
(04:55):
He's got the kind of the more you know, circular
sphericles stretch, which I think is interesting but looks good. Also,
was making a lot of jokes about this when I
was with Joelle recently at a very fun event we
did with a bunch of other people, which is like,
what if that's the only time we see Reid stretch
because like they never they yeah, he's got a stretch more.
But I will say, you know, this is the crazy
(05:17):
world we live in. The I think about this story
a lot. And look, guys, you're not going to be
surprised to hear me say this, but obviously I am
like obsessed with the really really crazy Cats movie that
they made like five years ago, that they thought could
go up against Star Wars at Christmas and is absolutely
one of the most arranged movies you've ever seen. But
I think about that a lot because the Tom Hooper,
(05:38):
the director, had not seen a finished version of the
movie with Finnish CG on the night he went to
see the premiere. Why right, And that was due to
the fact that they were trying to do this like
digital furd technology. They were like struggling with their CG.
But I think one of my worries about Fantastic Four
is I do feel like part of the reason that
we haven't seen a lot of it is I think
(05:59):
that they're there is still stuff being done to it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I completely agree, and.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I feel for those creators, those digital artists who are
working on the movie at this last minute situation. I
bet that's really stressful, and I worry because I want
this movie to be amazing. But you know what, it's
looking good. I'll tell you my big critique about this though.
Why is I'm guessing at Charla Ball, you know, the
female Silver Supper? Why she got I makeup and like lipstick,
(06:25):
Like that was so weird, Like she's got like, I'm like,
you don't need that. She could just be a shiny baldhead,
just like the origidal Silver Soup.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm gonna maintain my optimism and not discuss my kind
of disappointment on how Chalia looks, but.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's for later. It's hard, it's hard to do. I
don't think she needed makeup. I don't think she needed
like funny makeup for this stuff. But you know what,
I love the character Shalla Ball. Let's give it a try.
Let's see how it goes up next.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Uh Oh in an era in which kids movies are dominating.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh, he has been a year for domination.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Minecraft Leelo and Stitch a live action version the How
To Train Your Dragon. Yep, it might be a live
action era, as much as we've kind of criticized it
because elioh is now Pixar's lowest opening film ever crazy
(07:24):
it opened to twenty one domestic fourteen internationally. That's about
forty three forty four million on a budget of one
hundred and fifty and that's I wonder if we've quietly
entered an era in which kids love kids movies, but
they want to see the live action version.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I also, I also do think that this was something
similar happened with Elemental in twenty twenty three. But though
Elemental open to forty four point five mil globally, it
had like incredibly long legs, ended up being a massive success.
I just wonder if I think what Pixar has really
lost is that first weekend like you have to see it.
(08:09):
That used to be how it was, it's the new
Pixar movie, you have to see it. I don't think
we have that now. I think mums and the people
who are making the decisions to take their kids to
these movies are actually like waiting till they read the reviews,
which for Ilo over positive. Overall, it's about a kid
who wants to go into space. I'm in, let's see
if it has the kind of legs that Elemental did,
(08:30):
which is actually like I've watched with my niece and nephew,
is actually like a really great movie, So I'll see.
I knew a few kids who were very excited about this,
but also this wasn't a movie I got invited to screen,
so I always wonder, like how they're feeling about it.
I don't think Pixar just as name recognition has the juice,
but I still think that from like Luca, a movie
(08:52):
I really love that I thought was very underrated that
didn't get a cinematic release, I would have loved to
see that, and Elemental, I don't necessarily think Pixar is done,
but I think the name recognition of Pixar to fill
a seat like fill seats on opening, it's not what
it was. That's done, Like that part of it is done.
You have to make a great movie and that well,
(09:13):
I mean that's to me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's to me is the concern because the reviews for
Elliot or good. Elemental to your point was good. It's
actually really good, but there's none. The response is not there.
The response is muted. Joelle in the chat is telling
us that the marketing is limited. I agree, you certainly
(09:35):
didn't see the marketing push that you saw with Dragon
Or and certainly not Minecraft, which was like you could
not avoid it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And also I feel like there's so much excitement that
they could have built around it. But yeah, it's very
true that the marketing is kind of limited. We don't
know what they mean. And also something else that I
think is that this we are living in an era
now where DreamWorks exists, where you can go on netl
and you can just watch like an incredible animated movie.
(10:03):
You can go on Apple TV Plus and watch wolf
Walker is one of the best animated movies ever made
by the Fantastic Cartoon Saloon. So it's like it to
me the Pixar who created Toy Story, who made the
first ever fully CGI movie, that era of it is gone,
(10:24):
Like people do not necessarily respond to them in the
same way. But I also think it's good that they're
trying to tell original stories and not just relying on
your Toy Story twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I think I'm just what I'm responding to is the
fact that, as we mentioned, kids Movie is kind of
dominating at the box.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Officer's crazy that this didn't open to like sixty mil
just because kids wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Also, Minecraft and Lelo and Stitch are the biggest dude
you know movies currently, not counting the Nija to the
Chinese movie that is breaking all kinds of records.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And think about Marie movie last year.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
But I don't know how to train your Dragon. I
feel like got about the same sort of marketing push
that Elio got, at least to my I even clunched
the numbers, but anecdotally I saw it, yeah out there
about the same as Elio. So I wonder if to
your point, there's not there's been some sort of generational
loss about the the brand has like lost its luster,
(11:25):
as like other previous fans of Pixar have kind of
aged out, and there's been not been that property to
establish Pixar as a name. I think you're right about that,
And I also wonder like, unless you have something like Minions,
are our kids have they moved on to? Is live
action kind of like the thing that yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Also is live action the thing they want to go
to the cinema for right and animation is what they
watch at home. They watch the thoughts before they go
to bed. They rewatched The Cat in the Hat, Green
Eggs and Hamshow on Netflix, which is one of the
most popular shows on that they watch these things at home.
I don't know if they're drawing them out as much
to the theaters. And I do think the Pixar name
(12:07):
recognition unless you're talking about like a Monster's inc. Or
you know, something like that, And a lot of the
animated movies that people love from Disney Now Cars, etc.
Like Pixar stuff like that, those have almost become their
own thing. They're not even like within that realm. I'm
interested to see if this has the legs, and I
also still need to see it, so like is it good?
(12:28):
But yeah, I do think that there is a distinct
lack of rush or excitement to go and see the
new Pixar movie. It's not a water cooler moment anymore
in the way they used to be.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Let's go to a quick break and when we come back,
we'll be talking James barn.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And we're back.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, what but the Denny Villeneuve cray of the Dune
franchise of many other incredible films, including Sacario, I will
direct the next James Bond film, and boy, I'm excited.
(13:19):
I think this will be like listen, I don't know
what this will mean, but I'm excited to see what
this will look like. I think Denny is one of
the most talented filmmakers currently working, and we're going to
see what this is.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I am incredibly interested by this because I feel
like he's very much in that Daniel Craig kind of vibe.
I feel like we're going to see beautiful locations. I
feel like it's Denny, So it's probably not going to
have that campy humor. I hope. I want that weirdness.
(14:00):
I want to know, like, James Bond has a roster
of incredibly strange villains, and I would absolutely love to
see kind of what Denny chooses for that. Also, this
is going to be the first time that we're not
kind of overseen by the Broccolis, the family of the
guy who originally wrote the James Bond stuff, who recently
kind of sold most of the James Bond writes to Amazon.
(14:22):
So I think Denny's going to be able to make
something really weird. I hope it's really fun. Okay, we
also do not know yet who the new James Bond
is gonna be. So, Jason, what are your like top
three picks for who you would put in as James Bond? Act?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't even know anymore, I truly don't. I I
the Aaron Taylor Johnson thing is interesting to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Me only I think he's great. I would love to
see that. I think him and Denny could be weird together.
There's been a lot of chatter around Aaron Pierre, who
we know is going to be playing Stewa. He's also
fantastic in Rebel Ridge, so it makes a lot of
sense if you've watched that, why you would think of that. Obviously.
Aaron Taylor Johnson recently did make everyone get really excited
(15:05):
because at twenty eight years Later Premiere they asked him
what he's doing next and he said he can't talk
about it, So that sounds very coded. Also, I guess
Pis Brosnan was like, Tom Hardy should play James Bond,
and I'm like, okay, I that would be weird as shit,
But I love Tom Hardy, so I'm interested to see
where it goes. And I think that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
THEO James, THEO James, THEO James who you can see
in What d What is he? I think he's in
an ad for Range Rover. I know you remember him
from White Lotus too, of course, and actually stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
He would be really good at, like that you're kind
of a dick James Mark.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, like thee Terrible, the slimy James Bond. Henry Cavill
has often been talked about this, so I think it
were a little too late for Henleary Cavell. Jack Loudon yep,
I know, I so joy Jack loud work on on
slow horses and other things.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think you touch on something a lot of people
have been talking about too, which is like, what wouldn't
it be great to have an actor who maybe isn't
like a totally known name, so like a Jack Cloud,
and it allows people to kind of he gets to
create his whole new version of Bond that is going
to be different because not everyone knows him, you know,
(16:27):
not He's not an instantly recognized person. I mean they're
still thrown around the names like Drissel but I love
dress Alba, but that man, how old is James gonna be?
Bro like reggae?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
On page?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, you know Drion's reggae.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
On page Daniel Koluia.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh well, Daniel, come on now, we're talking to my language.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Let me just say they should do it. They'll never
f they don't have the fun. Okay, what about this,
and then certainly are not going to do it as
the first post Broccoli Bard exactly. Okay, so it's safe
and White Bond for it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, what is I I did say this, and I
probably shouldn't put out into the universe, but I do
think it's funny. Denny. Who's he most recently been working with. Okay,
Timothy Shallow May James Bond, imagine that Timmy, I mean
Timmy James Bond.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think it would be a huge controversy in Europe.
I think that would be a big I think it
would be a huge It would be a scandal, and
I think it would be a scandal. I think I
think the Brits would be really, really mad.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But you know what, We've had an American, We've had
an English Superman at this point, so yeah, I'm I'm
very interested. I trust the need to make a weird,
cool choice, and uh yeah, I bet that every single
person in Hollywood right now is calling up Andrew agents. Okay, Now,
Andrew Garfield, I would love to see it because he's
(17:50):
always think.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like a kind of like gawky, kind of but like
charming James Bond. I think that could be interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And also like if his Andrew Garfield the kind of
like version we see of him in like a Spider Man,
where he's kind of a little bit more of a
he's a little bit more of like a nerdy awkward
that could be a great kind of front for a spy,
but then the real spy is something totally different, exciting.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Rosie who what about Bond girls? Who should be the
next Bond girl? I'm gonna I'm gonna say there's gonna
be two Bond girls in the next Bond Okay, And
who do you think it will be? Or who would
you like to see?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay? I think they're number one Bond ladies. Bond option
right now is a bond option is Gobby Sidney Sweeney.
She's the one that everyone's talking about. She has the
juice soup. I think I think from her horror stuff
that she has done, which has been really interesting and
strange and quite subversive, I think that in a Denny
(18:53):
Villa new Bond movie. I think she could do something
really interesting. I would also say immediately, I think if
they wanted to keep it connect to the last one,
having that Ana Damas character comeback could be really interesting.
But Joelle did put this across to me, and I
think if the Bond is age appropriate, I would love
to see it. A little Zendaya as a Bond girl.
I would like before she's an action star, and as
(19:15):
long as the other the Bond actor is in like
their thirties or whatever, I think that's like an appropriate
and fun Bond girl moment. What about you?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay, well, listen, I've there's been a lot of names
out there, and I like a bunch of them. Margaret
Quayley has been Oh, they've talked about really, they talked
about Emma Mackie, who I like. Yeah, but Jody Comer,
who actually I think would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a big curve.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Ball, Okay, I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Keiky Palmer, Yes, Oh my gosh, that's the kind of
James Bomb movie I want to see.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I think she has the jew She's got the fucking
she can be like the.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
American wild card. Cia and fbi age and something, and
I think she has the juice for a role like this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I truly do. I do. Okay, Aaron just said Dakota Johnson, which,
like Aaron just called herself.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I don't like to listen as a I I just
think Dakota Johnson much respect to her.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
She's the Johnson.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
He's always just Dakota Johnson is too flat for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know what's an affect? I'm loving, Oh a boost
I Rebecca Ferguson now, I would love to see that
Rebecca Ferguson James Bond mother with like Aaron Taylor Johnson.
I'm feeling chemistry, I'm feeling age appropriate relationships. I'm feeling
I'm feeling like someone is going to make sure that
the casting doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
If yah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's x ray off the Dark bab on.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Our Patreon only right after dark. We will discuss that
and other matters. Exciting, exciting, saying, okay up. Next last
bit of news, John Burr will turn as the Punisher
in spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Incredibly, I love this. This is where the Punisher was
first introduced was in Spider Man comics. He was a
Spider Man villain. I think Tom Holland and John Berntham
are going to be so good together. I also think
it's cute because when we were talking about this in
the group chat, I think it was Aaron who brought
up but they had both like kind of helped each
other out on the set of a movie when they
(21:26):
were trying to when they were both kind of auditioning
for well, I think especially when Tom was auditioning for
Spider Man, and they kind of helped each other. So
I love the idea that that's going to be like
a little reunion for them. I think that Punisher's role
in this movie is probably going to first be as
an antagonist he's being too violent, but will eventually become
(21:50):
like a mentor, probably will become somebody that Peter trusts.
I'm guessing as this goes on. Also Ironheart, there's gonna
definitely be some questions about what Brand New Day is
gonna be about and how it's gonna play out. So
I'm very interested. I love John Bernthorp's Punisher, and I
(22:12):
hope this maybe allows him to do a little more
joke He never gets to be jokey in the movie,
but in the We got some really great banter between
him and Matt in The Dead Devil in the New
Dad Devil Show Born Again, So I am excited to
see maybe a little bit of that come to come
(22:33):
to Spider Mandy. Come on, Spidy, Come on, Spidy, what
are you doing? What you do with Man? And I'm
hoping as well that this fits into kind of the
idea that this is going to be Peter as he's older,
a little bit older. Maybe he's a teacher. He can
hang around with an adult like John Bernthorpe because he
is an adult.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh, it's pretty exciting, pretty exciting, And the fact they
announced it like this, I don't think it's like a cameo.
I think this is the main secondary character in this screen.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Next week's episode of X ray Vision, we're giving you
a breakdown of Superman's history and cinema.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's it for New Cinema.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
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Speaker 3 (23:07):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
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Speaker 2 (23:22):
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Speaker 3 (23:24):
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