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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Well, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm rosday Night
and welcome back to X Revision, the podcast wed with
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Movies, comics of pop culture company from.
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My Ora podcast War, bringing out three episodes a week
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
News is News.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
In today's previously on episode, we are catching you up
on the biggest geek news of the week, including new
trailers for Alien Enough and Frankenstein and a very fun,
lightly spoilery.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Chat with the Philippo Brothers.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Directors have talked to me whose newest film, Bring Her Back,
is on wide release right now and it is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But first news, First up, the Alien Earth official trailer
has dropped and the show run by Noah Hawley, who
has done such great work spinning off the world of
Fargo into its own world. Oh love that will be
running this and it is a prequel set twenty years
(01:14):
before the events of the original Alien film. Looks like
we're going to see the origins of the synth technology
and listen, I love Alien I love the world I'm in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It looks great, looks great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I can't believe how in the world it looks it
definitely Disney at Hulu.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Fox has spared no expense like John Hammond at Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
This is looking good.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I guess it's going to be kind of a hybrid
synth story. A girl's consciousness is uploaded. I think it's
going to be really interesting. I want to see those aliens.
I want to know more about this period, specifically in
Whale and your Tawny Corporation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I yeah, it looks great. I thought I looked great.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Also another iconic female lead for the franchise with a
very hilariosity, very now hack everyone's at that little little honey.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Ball going on. But yeah, it looks good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Coffe maintenance, that haircut. Oh, don't get, don't don't get.
Don't get sucked into that. If you don't have the
ability to be at the in the barber's chair of.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
A couple of years, don't begin the tiny bags. It's hot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Don't do that. Careful, careful, You're gonna be ironing those.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Things to your head. You're gonna iron down.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
They wing up.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Listen, I've seen it happen. Next up, new trailer for
Guillermo del Toro has much waited Frankenstein film, which is
coming to Netflix in November. No release state of yet,
but just in time for Halloween of twenty twenty five,
you will get to see Hot Frankenstein, Oscar Isaac, hot Monster,
Jacob Alurda.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh yeah, and he's doing another bad English accent. Guys,
what more could you want? Is that? Did you miss
it from the night? Will you wait? Hey? Where would you?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Where would you?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Where would you pinpoint that accent if you tried to?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I think people the argument online is like the Frankenstein
is like, he's a Germanic guy and he's traveled around,
so he's had lots of different accents.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm open to it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I love to see Oscar Isaac with a luscious hair.
I think that the set design looks incredible. I think
this has sparked a very important conversation that I hope
Netflix takes heed of, which is everybody wants it in theaters.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They want to see this.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
If you remember when the second NYE of the Doubt
movie came out Glass Onion, they allowed it to be
in cinemas for the weekend of Thanksgiving, I believe, and
it made like a hundred million dollars or something insane
because of how much people really wanted to go and
see that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I'm saying let's get this in theaters.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I think people love Giemo del Toro enough. I would
have loved to see his Pinocchio in theaters, and I
think that this looks like a movie that could be
good enough to get us to the theatrical release. So
please ted sarandus listen to us at least a mini
theatrical release.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I saw some great early.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Release pictures of me are Goth with this kind of
outrageous green green kind of bail.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
On that looked really cool and styly.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
We haven't had a full look at the monster yet,
but we do get to see kind of some of
the practical ways that del Toro is bringing to life
his creation.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think it looks great.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Also starring the wonderful Christoph Wilson glad to himself l Innison.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be back with
more headlines, and we're back. The PlayStation state of play
occurred recently and there's lots of things to talk about,
including new Metal Gear, Solid Delta Snake Eater game with listened,
all the weird touches that you are accustomed to if
(04:36):
you are a metal gear person, one day we need
to explore the absolutely insane metal Gear.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean it's like literally the most insane.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And also I think out there influential Samson's Creed also
secretly crazy, but like metal gear crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, I was really happy with how excited Super Produced
Joel was for the fact that there's going to be
some kind of like mini game or like with the frog,
like you can get you could catch a frog, which
you guys know is very me coded, but then the
frog is gonna like help change your camouflage. That's the
kind of weird shit that we need from metal game
and video.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Games in general.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's gonna be released super soon too, August twenty eighth,
so I guess we will be checking in on that
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
A new fighting game, a new Marvel ip fighting this
big fighting Souls so kind of like a Soul Caliber.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, it's a cell shaded fighting game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
With all the characters that you would expect, including the
Guardians of the Galaxy, including Expier Man, including Thor, including Iron.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Man, oh the miss Marvel. I Marvel.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I am not a fighting game person, but this looks
super super fun.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I love fighting games.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think that the big conversation that was had when
this was announced was in the community was basically like
good because Capcom and Marvel have not been working together well.
Marvel Bus Capcom Infinite was very controversial game, and this
looks a lot more like what the fans have been
looking for. I am very excited because this was made
by Arc Systems Works, who made Dragon Ball Fighters with
(06:08):
a Z, which I am surprisingly good at and is
one of the only modern fighting games that I can
really hold my own in after post Mortal Combat eleven,
which I just failed terribly even though that I've been
playing that franchise my whole life.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Looks great. I love the miss Marvel design.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think that in a post Rivals world this could
be a really big hit.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's a Smash Brothers seemingly all yeah as well.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Four before Tag Team Fighter, which I think is a
really popular game.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing this
as a competitive fighting game going into the future.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I can't wait. I think that this is going to
be a big hit in the fighting game community, but
also just in.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Like the Marvel community because we love to play as
these characters as rivals has proven up next.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Double O seven first light official announcement trailer. This is
kind of like a almost a Hitman style three D
third person action game from Io Interactive, the creators of
the hit Man franchise, launching a twenty twenty six of
the PlayStation five. You know, I thought this was if
(07:16):
you like the hit Man and you love Bond, this
will be a game for you.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's definitely a more action focus, less stealth focus like
the hit Man, but looks pretty fun and it seems
clearly built on.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The hit Man architect.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, and also it's gonna be Bond before he became
Double O seven very much that kind of opening scene
of Casino Royale with Daniel Craig, no suits, no Martiniz,
just like fucking people up. And I think in the
discord there was like a lot of excitement for people
to have another great James Bond game. Obviously Golden Eyes
that is the legendary one.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And I am excited and interested that they are still
just like banging out games for the PS five at
this higher.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes, and finally, in sad news. You may have seen
that King of the Hill Voice actor Jonathan Joss was
shot and killed in Texas this week. Details emerging from
that particular crime seemed to indicate that it was a
hate crime, pure and simple, and I think that there
are troubling signs that the local police are trying to
(08:26):
walk back the hate crime details of this. But Joss's
husband has claimed that Joss and himself were under constant
harassment from the perpetrator, who was uttering homophobic slurs at the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Time of the murder and indeed for years.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Police are currently looking into, they say, whether his sexual
orientation played a role in the murder, but I think
there seems to be significant evidence out there that it did.
Very very sad and troubling news.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, it's really sad stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And it is a total loss that one of the rare,
you know, comanche elder actors that we have was killed
in a hate crime. And yeah, just sending love to
his family and his partner and to all of the
incredible community that he had in Hollywood who have been,
(09:25):
you know, speaking out about this loss.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We're gonna go to a break and will be right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, and we're back it's me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Be careful if you have not seen the incredible movie
Bring Her Back, or if you're scared to see it
and you want to know how scary it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
There's light spoilers.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
In this next interview with the talk to Me direc
the Philippo Bros. About their newest a twenty four horror,
Bring Her Back, which is currently on wide release. And
if you guys want to check out the chat with
the Philipoop Bros. On YouTube, You've been asking for it,
so guess what. You can watch the whole chat on
YouTube and there's a link in the show notes to
click on and see our chat on the screen. This
(10:19):
is a very high energy interview. In case you couldn't tell,
the three of us are very similar, So enjoy this.
It's a really long chat, but it's a great chat,
and go and check out the movie because it's one
of my favorites of the year so far. How are
you guys feeling after watching seeing people watch the movie
last night and hearing it?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What was that like?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Oh my gosh, we still have not watched the movie
with an audience. Okay, yeah, it's still.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Because Jonah, who plays Oli, our he's not young. Yeah,
so he was having dinner, so we didn't want to
leave him by himself.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That is very cute of you guys.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
It's very nice, and we will terrified of watching with
an audience, but yeah more so Jonah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I was.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I was kind of hoping you guys were going to
be at least listening, just because the responses were crazy, Like.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I really I wish we did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
There were like multiple moments where people just like gave
a round of applause for the sight, for the kind
of absolute like horrific ship that you guys were putting
on the screens. Okay, so and we can talk about
this is going to be held till June, so we
can talk about spoilers. The the mouth, the biting the table,
(11:38):
people like lost their ship over that one, and while
the teeth were cracking.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
There like also the.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Arm peel.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Arm was a big one, and the knife, but that
one really freaked people out. I didn't that already because
I did the trailer launch and it was like people
were really freaking out.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Oh my gosh, I really wanted record or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.
One day we'll watch all of an audience.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, you got You've got plenty of time. You've got
plenty of time. The movie's not even out yet, but
kind of like going all the way back. Could you
talk a little bit for people our listeners who like
don't know how you guys got started. Could you talk
a little bit about Rakaaka and kind of the origins
of your filmmaking stuff and how you started with wrestling
and just really your origin story that got you to
(12:26):
hear Like, we.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Started off very very young making stuff, Like we first
got our hands on our dad's video camera when we're
like nine years old, and we haven't stopped making stuff
ever since then.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And all the way through growing.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Up, we would like mock things that we loved, so
that it was like I loved Buffy, so we do
like our own spin on Buffy. Or it was like
I love Child's Place, so we would do the Evil
Flamingo based on my sister's doll.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
It was all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
And then we had this series that we were doing
as kids, like from the ages of thirteen or eighteen.
We had like ten seasons of this thing, and then
I was like the episodes and we were on the
sixth and final film of this series, and everyone was like, wen't.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Too old to be doing this. Everyone was like yeah,
they're like why are we still making They were like,
I got kids anymore.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
But we still loved doing it, so that fell apart.
But I still needed a way to you know, make
things or express myself. So we started just making sort
of fake fails online, which is like pretending that I
stuck a knife in a toaster and it blew up.
Oh yeah, like mocking the Harlem shake and retaining this
explosion went off. So there was all these sort of
(13:31):
fake fails and they were going viral online and and
and so we needed a place to like put everything,
and so we made rack Racker and that became our
job for like the next But it was never intentional
like that, yeah, because we were trying.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
We were like, we're making short films as well.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
That were we're trying to because we wanted to get
into film and television. So we were working on film
sets and trying to get enough money to make our
own short films. And we did a couple, but the YouTube,
like the online stuff was just exploding.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
And then so we put.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
A channel, made a channel rack of record and put
everything on and it just you know, it was one
video just yeah, took off. And then we're like, oh,
what if we put actual energy into this, the energy
that we're putting into the short films and stuff, Let's
put that into the YouTube channel and see where it goes.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
And then it was yeah, all for ten years or
something crazy.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
Because my job before that, because I literally can't do
anything else, I was a lab rat. So I would
check at the hospitals and then try out drugs that
weren't on the market yet.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
That was literally my job for like three years.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I'm glad you moved on from that. I feel like
this is a safer job.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I feel like I felt like three years is like
you put in your time as a medical test patient,
and you know what.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I sort of want to return. I want to make
my return trial.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
One last trial, one last job.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
They called the final trial.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Oh yeah, that's the next there we are after the
deathmatch wrestling. That's your next one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What did it feel like?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Because I feel like a lot of times when we
make up and we make movies and I make comic
books and stuff, it really does just start with like
making shit with your friends. So how did it feel
to kind of make that stuff with your friends, keep
making it, and then suddenly you put it online and
it just like changes your life and kind of changes
the trajectory of where you're going.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
It's so weird because nothing even though everything's changing, you know,
when you're in the middle of it, you don't really
reflect or realize that it's changing. It's like, oh, yeah,
this is this now, Oh this is happening now, Oh
yeah this and so like.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
That, That's what I sort of felt like.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
But I did feel like that we were getting stronger
maybe as filmmakers, all learning so much by doing so.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Much and meeting amazing people.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yeah, so like through YouTube world to meet amazing other
artists that we'd work with, some that we still work
with now, Like we are makeup artists.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Spect Burato, she used to help.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Us way back in the day, you know, with YouTube stuff,
and now she's head as apartment for makeup. You know,
there's all those people that we met along the way
that's that we know are passionate and love what they do,
and bringing them on and set with us is the
most incredible thing.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
And you don't lose that, you know.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
It's already such a mammoth task making a movie.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
It's so hard.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
You want to at least have fun while you're doing
it and surround yourself with people that are passionate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And I want to.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Be what comic books do you write?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I want to?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Okay, okay, So recently my most I've been writing Godzilla
comic books like official.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, I love Godzilla.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That we recently did one called Monster Islands Summer Camp
that's about Godzilla some Manila going to summer camp. And
that was like a graphic novel for kids. So that
was like a blessing. I actually am really really stoked
they just announced because I love horror, but for some reason,
I just like ended up writing more like kids comics.
But I have a creep Show story in the next
(16:38):
Creep Show anthology. Yeah, I'm very stoked about that because
that was like definitely one of the things that scared
me as a kid. So now getting to be like
doing a version of it. And it's about like living
in like a shitty rental apartment.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So I feel like I'm getting to like Channel. I'm
like Channel I lived experience.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
It's a very personal story, this one.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly, I'm like, guys, it's emotional but you know,
you guys are sort of talking about like the makeup
and the people you've brought along, something I love about
all your movies, But I think like this in particular
really leans in to like the practical nature like horror
and SFX, and that's something that you guys were always doing.
So could you talk a little bit about like why
(17:19):
that was always so important to you guys?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
It seems like I love when you can use horror
or body horror to reflect themes or to express something.
And there's stuff that you can't even put into words,
and the only way to express it is through these
sort of visuals.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
And the idea of like trying to execute something practically
and the challenge of it, and like it always feels
like those practical.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Effects stand the test of time.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
I don't know that that's always at the funnest part
where we're writing anything like it automatically, we're thinking about
that sort of stuff, like how we can execute it
and the most elaborate way possible, and it's such a
fun puzzle to try and solve.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, and you guys were working with like I got
I was lucky enough the first more or Combat movie.
I got to go to the set and like, I
fucking love morel Combat And you guys worked with Scarecrew
Studios right, like effects they're so amazing. I actually when
I did More when we did the Mortal Combat set,
they were like they knew I'm like the loser of
the set visit and they were like, who wants to
(18:15):
get some facial like like Scott and walk around with
it all day And they were like, Rosie, we know
it to you and Scarecrew got to do it for
me and everything.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So I was really stoked to see. Could you talk
a little.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Bit about how like having the having those kind of
physical aspects on set and it being all in camera, Like,
can you distinctly see how that helps the cast kind
of experience it in a more real way?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah, because they're not they're not acting off something that's
not there. It's there in front of their face, you know.
And that's and even being in that makeup, in that
prosthetics helps you get to a place it's.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
It's not of it.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Yeah, So there's like a realism to it. So that's
that's always the most incredible thing. Like even when we're
feeling some.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Of that stuff, and you're like behind the camera, the
whole crew is wincing as well, like, oh yeah, it
looks so good, but it's so fucking violent.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Yeah, and because all those yeah, when you had that
collaboration of amazing artist or in practical stuff, it's like
there's a buzz that comes from it. And there is
these things where like sometimes you've only got one shot
at something, like you've made something.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, you're like, oh my gosh, this has to work.
I don't know what the fuck is going to happen
when we roll.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
The cameras, but like, yeah, like you just gotta hope,
you gotta pray, and it's always there's always something incredible
that you capture, and that's that.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It was like a part of the magic of film.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, so talk a little bit about you said, like,
talk to me, it's definitely like your party horror. I
mean we I remember the trailer launch people were talking
to you about how they were using like the hand the.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A twenty four gave out as like a bong.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So it was like it was so inherently like a
party movie. And obviously there's like a fun to that
you're working with young people. You kind of establish yourself
as like good with working with young people. But then
for Bring Her Back, you're like, Okay, how do we
do a movie that's more violent, more scary and has
a younger cast? So could you talk a bit about that.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Yeah, it's so interesting, like the young characters, because they
were developed at the same time. There was this interchange
that was sort of happening between the projects, and like
both films have like in one lens of fun Montage
but in another lens are really fucked up Montage. So
like that felt like there was a parallel there, and yeah,
they felt they feel like brother sister films to me.
(20:31):
And yeah, like and the challenge of working with a
younger cast or a young cast, they just bring something
raw and authentic and they're not play pretending too much,
like they are putting themselves sort of in those positions
and playing those characters in a more real way.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
So that's always super rewarding.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Also to the idea of like helping these people break
out as well is so cool, Like I feel like
Jonah playing Oliver is gonna explode and saa if she
wanted to be sure, it could definitely be sure, Like
oh yeah, yeah, that feels really rewarding as well.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I thought Sara was like so brilliant.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I actually asked, you guys, like at the trailer launch
was I was the one who was like, so, tell
me about having someone who is like sit impaired as
your lead character.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I feel like we don't really get to have disabled
people in horror movies unless they're the villains and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And now I've seen the movie, I get you know,
Sara gets to be the final girl if there is one.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
She's obviously very traumatized. Could you talk a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I would love to hear you guys tell the story
about what inspired that character, because I thought that was
really cool.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
It was based on our friend's little sister who's non sighted,
and she was wanting to catch the bus by herself,
and her family were a little bit reluctant and a
bit worried about it because you know, it could be
really dangerous, and that she really wants to learn how
to navigate the world on her own and learn how.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
To be independent.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
And I could see both sides of that argument, and
it was a fascinating argument, and I so I continued
talking with her, and then she ended up saying I
was like, what do you feel like it would be
to see? Like, what do you think that would feel like?
What that experience be like? And she's like, I'm glad
I can't see because I don't have to see the
ugly things in the world. And it was such a
(22:16):
profound statement and it became like the thematic bass for
the entire film. And she's so strong and resilient and
she like you know, fights with her brother and and
the like rough house a little bit, and and like
same with Sore, Like she fights for her dad and
rests with her dad.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
She was like, my favorite part of the movie was
geg to choke out Billy.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yes, she's so down for everything.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
She did, all her own studs, all these own studs,
and like was jumping in the pool, diving in there,
rolling down these hills.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Like gold bowl even, which is like a sport.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Really cool to see that.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
That's a terrifying It hurts so much.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
All it's so happy. I could going across the floor.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Yeh, lay there and you just hear it coming towards
your cough.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Fuck, it's a ball full of balls are bells, and
it's like you can't see your blindfolded and so you're
having to block it and you're hearing it.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
So this thing is coming.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
At you and it is terrifying and it's such a rough,
tough sport and it's just like there's a resilience. And
Sora would just like jump with the pool dive in
and was like, love being so physical and practical is amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, I love that because I also think it like
contradicts a lot of ideas about what people think about
like frailty of people who can't see, or who are disabled,
or who are women, or who women of color, And
instead we get Sura who's just like absolutely fucking going
for it at like every point.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
And will never fall down.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
She never falls, Like I don't love it, Like love
that Piper as well, always getting back up and it's like, yeah,
she inspires me and like overcomes these things, Like yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Like going down as a legendary final girl. I think like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
She fucking does that moment when she just fucking throws
the glass into Laura's head.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Everyone in the.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Cinema was just like like everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Was like what a fucking throw, Like just like like
don dumb right in the fore Ye yes, I also
thought something was really cool about the bell ball kind
of sports scene.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
It's like the ball is coming towards Sora as like
everything just like every something comes towards Viper as everything
fucking comes towards I thought that was really really cool,
and I would yeah, I mean the movie is definitely
I think part of the reason I love it is like, uh,
it spoke very deeply to like my experience of like
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being a kid, and I think, like something I really
loved and feel free to be like funk off.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I don't want to talk about the themes.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
The art should speak for itself, but like I really
love I think a lot of times about how, like
I don't have any kids, I will never have kids,
but like I think a lot about how like kids
are viewed kind of as adults property like if you,
if you're an adult, you can like beat your kid
and nobody cares, but if you beat your wife then
you shouldn't do that, you know, Like, and a kid
is seen as kind of this like the thing that
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is an extension of yourself, And I thought the movie
was really interesting around that and kind of the agency
of these kids who go through this terrible thing and
then they just put them with this other adult and
they're like, they'll look after you now.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
So could you kind of talk about the.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Real life inspirations that led you to make this movie,
because it's like it does feel like a companion piece
to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But I think people who've.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Only really watched Rakaraka or who have seen talk to me,
I think they are going to be really shocked by
kind of how dark this movie goes.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Yeah, there were so many different things that were inspiring
different thematic parts of the film, and like it's always
tapping into things that like freak you out.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Or scare you and so like a never ending grief
cycle and not.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Being able to break out of that was a really
big thing that was a thematic part. And then the
idea of us psychologists that is trained to help nurture
and fix people, like using those skills to try and
break somebody that is so terrifying to me.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Oh yeah, an adult.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Guardian with uh, you know, different motives, motives that's you're
supposed to it's supposed to be trusting and I'm the.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Person who takes care of you and yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Yeah, and then that and there's there's things in life
that kind of inspire that that experiences that that's like, oh,
this person is supposed to be looking after us, and
there's just that there's other things that like that that
that's not their whole reason. Like you're you're full trusting
in them, but there's that's not their full thing, you know. Yeah,
and then also like like looking at Laura in a
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way that it's like not always like an inherently bad person,
and like how how this has twisted her and like
this grief has turned her into a monster and in
turn she's turning this other kid into a monster. Yeah,
there's just so many things and it's so hard to
like put into words, but like usually putting it out
there as a way to.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah, you know, I think like even for me, there
was something that felt very cathartic about watching the movie
and kind of so I'm sure that for you guys
it's the same. It's like you put it on the screen.
But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm really excited. I want
to my mum, I want my friends who are mums
to watch it because I even just as like an
(27:12):
I have a lot of nieces and nephews. I am
like a perennial auntie and I love that. But like
even for me, like the early parts of the movie,
I'm like thinking, I don't want to think those things,
but I have OCD, so I'm constantly ruminating. But like
I'm like watching it and I the brain is going like, well,
what if that was your niece or what if that
is your nephew, And even for that, it's like the
(27:34):
gut check is like so fucking huge of like, well,
I probably would do anything, but like where is the
line of anything?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I want to know?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like I want to see the parents watching this movie
and hearing their response is because I think that's going
to be like a really interesting, unexpected kind of response
because we don't really get a lot of horror that
is about like the realities of being a parent, or
like the kind of the absolute inherent that you just
constantly have if you love a child, because you're like
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something terrible could happen. Yeah, that's basically your life once
you have a kid.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
And there was like there was so many different parents
that we spoke to, and that's like a part of
the process as well, when you're building out these characters
and listening to certain experiences and then even like a
mum talking about like her nightmare for years there were
stairs in their house that she would wake up, come
down and you know the kid had fallen down the
stairs or passed away, and.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like that is so horrific. And then like talking about
like yeah, where would that line be? How far would
you go? Like what would you do?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
And like that's always fascinating hearing the answers, And then
like one thing like between all of them is like
they would definitely take their life or lose.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Like yeah, yeah, there would be like they would swap
their life, no question.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So then you start like, well who else is life exactly?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's always the thing. Okay, what about
this And they're like.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, and then they're like, don't record me, Like this
is a trap, guys.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
This is totally anonymous hypothetical question.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Would you kill a child?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Yeah, but there's there has been a lot of moms
that have watched it that there aren't even horror fans
that I've loved the movie.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I feel like it's gonna find an audience there, kind
of like The Babba Duke.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Did you guys worked.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
On Yeah, it was awesome. We loved working on the Marble.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Yeah, it was amazing, And yeah, it's so so fascinating
because like in my head only because because my YouTube
audience is always fifty to twenty five year old guys,
that's always what I think the audience is always gonna be.
And and so like we sat we've sat next to
people and watched it in like well like trying out
cuts and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
And watching of moms and stuff, and their reaction is
way more profound than.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Anyone else's, which is so beautiful and so magical, and
having like a deep conversation about it afterwards.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah, it's super simp awarding.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, also as well, like your audience is growing up.
Like I hate to tell you guys, but you guys
have been doing this for quite a long time.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like we're all getting old terrible news. I'm not cool.
I'm not cool. I do fight with that every day.
I'm like, guys, I have tattoos, you tell.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I'm like cool, Like I'm not, like I'm not like
other adults guys.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
But like also.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Every adult thinks they look younger than they do exactly,
Like I don't even look like I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
They're still like deeing me like you just live in
American They fucking id everyone. But like, also there is
like a version of this where kids have like grown
up with your storytelling. And for someone who is now
in that like twenty eight and above, there's a chance
that they have kids.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And they watch this and they're like, oh shit, like this.
Shit's like you guys are growing up with them, you know.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Yeah, they're more mature than we are. But what's amazing.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Yeah, it's so interesting like meeting people that have grown
up on the videos and like the support like from people,
it's been so incredible, Like like there were just people
like around the block.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
At the screen.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
That was crazy, right, it's the it's the warmest feeling,
like I feel, Yeah, I feel so.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Lucky to be able to do this and to have
people be that supportive. It's yeah, it's so incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
What was it like taking that step from because you
were like always wanting to make movies, right, and that's
why you started it. Then you diverge into this like
unexpected online career that's like a smash hit success, so
you've already achieved a lot of the stuff that people
want to achieve. How did it feel to then take
that step into filmmaking, like feature filmmaking with talk to
(31:38):
me like what how did it feel when you made it?
And not just that how did it feel when, like
you say, with this, like suddenly everybody loved it and
you're getting those screenings and you're getting that kind of
understanding of like, Okay, we're connecting with people.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
You never know what the because we had a screening,
We've talked to me in Adelaide where we're from. Before
it got into Sundance or anything like that, it was
just with family and friends in the cast, and then
you know, we showed it and then.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
We're speaking to people. What do you guys think? And
everyone's like, who's good?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Where do we what? What now? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:18):
And then so and I would never believe people when
they said that they liked it. And then when it
got into Sundance, it was suddenly like, oh my god,
this there might be something here. And then all those
studios came to the Sundance screening and they wanted the movie.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
All these different people wanted the movie.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
It was such a bringing back who was screening and
people were saying that they liked it.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I was like, I don't believe I.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Like, what do you like about it?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
What do you hate about it?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's the that's like the ultimate creative cast is like
whatever we make, even if somebody loves it, we're gonna
be like probably not good, you know, just okay, h.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Cold better Rosie?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Can I say something it could be better?
Speaker 8 (33:17):
I love your laugh, Rosie, It's very.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
My mom used to call it a Sid James laugh,
like from carrying those old carry on movies.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's like I was in the Dude, I was feeling
bad yesterday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I was in the arrow and like something terrifying would
happen on Scream and and I'd be like and then
I'd be like that that that gang. Like I'd be
in the cinema, I'm killing the bie saying they all
these influences, just like I didn't used to love it,
(33:50):
but now I love it. Like I'm like I'm cackling, like.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It's like I just think that there is something about
finding like community in horror, and that is why, like
I'm from London originally, but I love living in la
like the magic of like being able to just like
go to a movie screening like that last night and
I was really no joke, guys. I when I'm getting old,
as we talked about, but like I used to be.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like a gorehound.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Like in my review that I did on Letterbox of
the movie, I gave it five stars. By the way, guys,
I actually I really fucking loved it.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I was like, I was very profoundly moved by the movie.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
My true I'm going to be speaking to my therapist
about it, and like, but I I compared it to Martyrs,
which was like a movie that I saw a long
time ago and that really profoundly affected me and I
never watched it again.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
But I said, your movie was.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Better, because I I love Martyrs, but like this is
like this is a different level of.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Sci was a tough one. I've only ever watched it once.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And the funniest thing is I wrote the letterboxed review
and as I was, I waiting to use the bathroom afterwards,
and there was a girl behind me, Alexandria, who we
immediately became friends, and she was wearing a fucking Martyrs
T shirt.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
And I was like, this is like fucking blow in
my mind.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But it's like I had actually messaged my incredible friend James,
and I was like, hey, man, like, I'm really scared
to watch this movie. I was like, I used to
be like a French new extremity like sore Gorehound, but
as I've gotten older, that has like changed and I've
kind of had less of an appetite for it. And
i'd been to the trailer launch, so I'd seen the
(35:32):
knife scene and uh, I really got into my own
head about it by message shames, and I was like,
you know what, the one good thing is like, even
if I'm really scared and I don't know anyone, and
I didn't, it's gonna be in the era where there's
just gonna be tons of people who fucking love movies
and that's like a great place to be.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And that's and that was kind of how I went
into it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And I ended up just thinking it was it was
so great and I was not that scared.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
It was just like I was crying a lot.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
It's one of those experiences. I loved the film culture,
the film culture in LA and.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
When you go to New York, it's like, I can
I love how much people love film. Yeah, it's such
a like there is a bit of a film movement
inside Australia, but it's not like this where you can
go and watch all these obscure films.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Even in London, like they don't have They had like
one cinema that I love, Prince Charles Cinema where I
feel like, you guys will definitely be for this movie
because it's kind of our big rep cinema. But like
in la you can just be like, oh, I really
wish I could go and see like Possession, and they're like, well,
there's three screenings today and this is fucking great Heaven exactly,
(36:32):
it's it's and it's so it's very amazing to kind
of have that community and have that space of just
people who love movies and who are always excited to
see something like like this. Like most people went into
this like really knowing nothing about it apart from the trailer,
which I feel like you guys left stuff very open ended.
It doesn't really reveal a lot. So it was it
(36:53):
was very cool to see just how much people responded
to it. And like you said, I mean I texted
the producers of the pot I texted our group chat
and was like, there is like a two hundred people
lying here. I was like, this is like very crazy,
Like this is, and so it was very cool to
see just how excited.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
People are for it. Is that heartwarming for you guys?
Or is it like scary?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
It's all it's all yeah. I don't exactly know how
to feel about it. I know it warms my heart
and it is like a.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Fear for people watching it.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
And you know what was funny is that the line
was big out there and a bunch of people couldn't
get in, and I was like, I'm going to go
like say hello to.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
The people that went a loud in. So I quickly
went around.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
The block and was shaking everyone's hands, but no one
knew that they weren't not getting in.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
So I was.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There, Yeah, I'm really sorry, man, Yeah you make it in.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Yeah they're And they're like, I'm asking me, you can't
wait to see the film?
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Can't wait to get in? And I was like, oh no,
you can't come in.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It was so bad.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah they know, yeah, they know. Yeah, you talking.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
About it like a twenty four is bringing you to
every screening there.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Now they're like, okay, guys, go tell them. We don't
want to tell them of Philip. Our brothers are here.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
They're gonna tell you ain't getting in if you see
Michael or Danny, you're not going.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, that was that was tough. That was it was.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
It was very heartwarming and the energy was incredible. It
was it was an amazing night. It was amazing. And
it's so called Saura, you know for Australia is like
in Hollywood, bell like at a film from here.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That that is incredible to me as well.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, I thought that was really amazing that you guys
like had Saura and Jonas and Billy out there, like
because the.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Movie is really theirs.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Like obviously you have Sally Hawkins, who we have to
talk about because she's Sally fucking.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Hawkins, But like, what was it?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
How does it feel to have seen the kids go
through the experience of making it and then get to
see them kind of getting that acclaim because especially from
the reviews that I was reading and the friends I
spoke to, I'm a I'm definitely a Sora was my breakout.
But I think a lot of people were really blown
away by Billy. I think that performance is really going
to put him in those kind of conversations.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Yeah, so it's so that is like the most rewarding thing.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
And then hearing them applaud them and then being proud
of the film as well, Like you hear about people
that make films that they're not proud of or they're
like embarrassed, like they're so proud of the movie.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Like Sarah loves the movie, Billy loved the movie. Isn't
allowed to watch the movie?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
That's so funny. How old is he? Like twelve?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Now twelve? It was filmed eleven.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
When he's got like he's got sensible parents because when
I was his age, I was watching like Texas Chainsaw Massive.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Oh my god. Yeah, mom would have let me, but
I just a fire and watched it anyway.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, it was actually banned in the UK till two
thousand and one, so was it really Yeah, because of
video nasty rules, it just never got unbanned.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
So like my dad had like a shitty VHS tape
copy that was like what it's like.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Internet video nasties, Like, yeah, twelve, I like, I think
I think my twelve year old self probably would have
been better not watching some movies.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
So good for good for Jonah's parents.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
Yeah, but it was because everyone's worked so hard in
the movie, Like everybody did. Everyone gave so much of
themselves to make it the best thing possible, so to
be able to bring them there so they can experience
the rewards of it was so incredible that that last
night was so much fun and just having fun with
them and celebrating with everyone because it is such a
(40:26):
hard process to make a movie and like, so they
did all that hard work so to be able to
reward them.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
They're down, like yeah, these like Australian kids in hills.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Also, like Jonah was like running around with like all
his little friends, Like yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It was like you were at a wedding, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
And they got to say, like they were like running
I guess they were like running up and down like
that on the balcony and I.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Was like, yes, I love this. This is exactly how
it should be.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
And all the drunk the drunk uncles, this is our
whatever look at It's so funny. This is our Sora's
dad and Jonah's dad in the photo booth together.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
God, that's so cute.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
He is a picture of two dads and they are
looking very excited to be there. I made I made sure,
like I saw Sura with her dad, and I made
sure to go up and I was like, congratulations sor
you're really really good, and I was like, I was like,
I hope you feel in that dad in your heart
that like I'm like, she did it, Like this is if,
like you said, if she wants to pursue it, I
think all three of them are going to be in
(41:29):
a great position. I mean, Jonah, he could become like
a creature actor, like the youngest world's youngest monster actor,
like young Doug Jones, you.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Know, yeah, yeah, and so physical and so down for it.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
And then it was on the table where it's like
you don't have to do the prosthetics side of it.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
Once the demon starts breaking out of you.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
We can get like an older actor and stuff like that,
because there is a lot of prosthetics, like it is
going to be like you know, it's full on.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
But he was like no, no, no, like I want
to do it. I want to do it.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
And he was so down for it and keen for
it and never complained and yeah that to do that
every day with prosthetics and with a smile on his
face and want to come back and do more.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, that's a way forever.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
And deb too, we had that those conversations with production,
but like there's a chance he just doesn't want to
do it.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I doesn't want to come back back. And it's understandable.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
It's like we have to have like a fallback planner
every and but yeah, he was just the best.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
It was.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You were just so into it. I mean, it really
is in a way like his movie. You know, there's
like that's kind of one of the things I love
about the movie too, is you can really watch it
from like any perspective. It can be Laura's movie, it
can be Piper's movie, it can be Annie's movie, it
can be you know, Jonah's movie, and or shall we
say Ollie for now. But but yeah, I just I
(42:38):
thought it was just, yeah, astonishingly good and obviously at
the heart of that aside from these brilliant kids who
I love and everyone on the podcast who listen to
podcasts knows, I love to have like my little children,
and I will kill anyone if they do something to
them in the movie.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And I was really I was struggling.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I was like crying in the seat next we like
sorry to the lovely, very glamorous couple next to me,
and then the lady next to me who was so
fucking scared. She's streaming, but I was like crying away,
just like a little grandma watching, like how could.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You do this to my dolly children? What are you doing?
But otherwise obviously it's it's Sally Hawkins.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
So could you talk a little bit about that casting
because I feel like this is so different for her,
but I also feel like, in a post Sinners world,
I feel like this.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Could be like an Oscars type.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Role for I just feel like she's so unbelievable and
so different in this role. So could you talk about
getting like these Sally Hawkins? And was that always your
dream casting for Laura? Like how did it happen?
Speaker 8 (43:41):
It's literally like there was a list that was made
up and like Sally was at the top of the list,
And like watching her films and every single time she's
in a movie, she's completely different. Like I love her
in Internal Beauty and I love her with Jasmine, and
I love her and Paddington, and.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Like Paddington is like a transformative performance. The movie doesn't
exist without you believe that she's talking to Paddington every
single time. Like I was showing it to friends recently
and I was like, this is why it works like
Paddington is real to her in this movie, So to
go from that to this is like a juxtaposition.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
It certainly is.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
And I was like, I felt impossible that we're going
to get her because because that Filmophe was so strong,
and because she played roles like pantenting, and she'd never
taken on.
Speaker 7 (44:23):
Like a horror or a full genre role. So I
was like, I don't think she'd even be interested and
I'm not gonna hear from her.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
So we sent the script and we waited a couple
of days, and then they got back to us to
like Sally loved the script.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
And I was like what. I was like, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Like she loved the script and like she wants to
talk to you guys. And then and then the next
feel was she's gonna have an ego that like she's
gonna have.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
A girlfriend ego because Hawkins.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
So you wouldn't even blame her, But you're also like,
do I want to work with that?
Speaker 8 (44:53):
Like how Yeah, it's kind of like we want to
be able to be open with people and try things
and not be nervous about acting someone. So but after
that first call with her, she was so down to
earth and amazing and picked up all these little nuances
in the script that no one else had that and
she was saying like she wanted to go deep. She said,
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she likes going deep with the character. She walks around
the shops as the character. She she buys stuff to
dress to set as in character, like.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
All that stuff in character she does.
Speaker 7 (45:26):
That was the best light. That was good. It was
funny because every house that we went to to ding
Dong dam.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Wait for context, there's a scene in the movie that
got cut where Laura takes these kids.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Ding Dong dashing.
Speaker 8 (45:36):
Uh and yeah, so that and then one night we'll
like it was like midnight and we're going through the
script through the beats, we're talking about ding Dong dashing
and we said, do.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You want it?
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Should we go? Haven't you ever d dash? Yeah? She's like, yeah,
should we go? Yes?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes, She's like, can we less than ding Dong dashing?
Speaker 7 (45:55):
The funniest thing, because Sally is so funny.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
Every house that we went to she had a different
excuse that she was ready the drapes.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
There might be someone in there all.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
The tree, the tree, this could actually be a murderer
in this house. Guys, I'm in the you know, I'm
in the mindset and the spider website.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
That's not right, that's all right, not this one, every house. Yeah,
and then she did it and then like the one
that she did had cameras at the front of it,
so I know, you know, the hair sprinting away, the funniest.
He is so cute.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
She's like, yeah, she's just unbelievable. So once she's on
set and you I love it. I love like a
limited set setting movie. And the house is like so beautiful.
Once she's on set and she's there with the kids, Like,
how does it kind of feel to start putting that
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to screen? Because this is just so different tonally and
is aesthetically like such a gorgeous movie. But there's also
like law as the kids would say, l O I
E not l A w as or my Discord members
always drag me for like I know, I'm English, bro,
That's why it sounds like that. But like, but like,
there's there's so many different levels to it, but at
(47:17):
the heart of it is this kind of familiar relationship.
So what did it start to feel like once you
were there with the family that you'd build and kind
of start delving into that kind of darkness.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
Well, it was like as much as we could, we
structured the film so that the more difficult stuff was
at the end for sa so you could build up
to like other heavier scenes, but like Sally as well,
so we really track the performance and that naturally it
was very sequential and it was very much like from
them arriving from the house was the first thing that
we show everyone in and like they were able to
(47:47):
get comfortable and grow into their characters and and you
know what's coming, and like Sally's so good in these scenes.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So good early on, like you want to live there. Yeah,
that's the thing I thought, you guys, Scott, that was
so cool.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
Like I was.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
I was homeless when I was a teenager, and I
interacted with so many different like cool adults who would
let you drink, who would smoke with you, who, But
so often there was something behind that and the reason
that they're hanging around with a teenager or that they're
happy with that kind of behavior.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
So there were just so many levels to those early moments.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
But at the same time, I absolutely still wanted to
be in that house, like with her, Like she has
this magnetism even when from early on, you know, like
she's cutting out Andy, she's not interested in him being there.
The photo got like such a huge laugh in the
cinema because I think it just established very quickly when
you and Sally does this, like there's this incredible moment.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
She takes a selfie of her and the kids and
she does this huge grin, like just.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
The happiest those fucking Paddington grin and every and but
she blocks out Andy and you understand very quickly that
Piper is is the focus, you know, but you still
she manages to make it so warm and so fun
that even though you know what's coming, you want to
be in there.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Yeah, that's her, And that's not like the way that
she's able to balance all these different things, and like
it was like like like Laura's over compensating a little
bit here, like yeah, and so like she's able to
play all these little things so subtly and so beautifully,
and then like the idea, like she's able to portray
this stuff. This is so exciting to shoot the stuff
that's coming, Like I can't even imagine.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
What this is going to be like.
Speaker 8 (49:27):
And like Sally gets in such an amazing zone and
when she's there, she's there. And there were scenes where
she was so scary to approach. She was so in
the character and in the moment and stuff, and she's
like like pacing and crying between takes.
Speaker 7 (49:40):
And stuff, and you're like going up and trying to talk.
And then but then there's also.
Speaker 8 (49:44):
If she always gives one hundred percent, even in rehearsals.
So we say we're doing rehearsals as there's a part
where she falls.
Speaker 7 (49:52):
Down, and there's some people like, now, don't fall down, Sally.
We can put them out here if.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
You want to say, no, I'm not going to fall down.
As soon as we start by just going through the
ass every take is like she's the is the goal,
Like she's going for one hundred percent, even.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
When the cameras aren't rolling.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
Even when it was Andy by himself in his room
and there's going to be a knock at the door
from Laura. She wanted to do that even though she's
not gonna be on camera. She wanted to just be everything.
Everything is incredible, and even Oliver like pushing up against
there's a part where he pushes up against the wall
and stunt.
Speaker 7 (50:26):
He's like I'm gonna put some pads on. She's like,
would Laura be wearing?
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, bruises and even if they like they're jumping into
the pool when she gets Kathy was the first thing
that we shot, was the very first thing, and everyone
there's safety had like a wet suit for her to
wear to jump in, and she's like.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Wearing She's like, I don't think she'd have time to
put that on the excuse me, no, I will.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
I thought she was like so astonishing, And I just
think that people are going to be really excited. I
could talk to you all day about the movie, but
I also don't want to take up all your time.
So just I think something people are really gonna want
to talk about is the knife scene. So last, just
before I let you guys go, what are your memories
of recording that scene on that day? Because I think,
like it looks really scary, but I'm guessing on set
(51:20):
was probably kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Because it's so out there. So could you talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
And kind of Jonah that performance in that moment, because
I think it's going to be like one of the
defining moments of the movie.
Speaker 8 (51:30):
It's so it's yeah, literally, when you're doing any of
that practical stuff, it's so fun He's not this foam
knife that he's like gnawing on and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
He's got these teeth that have magnets in it so
we can.
Speaker 8 (51:41):
Control and they're sort of pushing it off and there's
like a bit of metal that's hidden under the foam knife.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
So let's try and get this and push this here
so it's not this fake magnet teeth in. And then
we built his face as like a mannequin and it
was like so photo real, and then we had a
real knife on that like the lip could get cut.
Speaker 8 (51:57):
Yeah, so it was design that the lip could get
cut in every thing. So like all of that stuff
was like you're grabbing all these different it's so funny.
Jonah said that because Danny was the one doing the
like cutting the lip.
Speaker 7 (52:06):
To get the right like of course, and there's a
lot of repressed aggressions. Face. You've been mucking around a
lot of sas you've been danged on.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Dashing people with us.
Speaker 7 (52:19):
How dare you?
Speaker 3 (52:20):
How dare you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (52:22):
That?
Speaker 7 (52:22):
I think it's one thing, so.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
Like really quickly just jumping back to Sally, Like the
most magical part of the whole thing was movie nights
of Sally Hawkins.
Speaker 7 (52:30):
Like I watched Whatever Happened to Baby Jane with shut
Up that their was heaven. I loved it.
Speaker 8 (52:37):
And she was like doing the characters' voices, like she's
mocking them and doing the thing, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
God, she's so incredible.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I love that so much.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
And guys, congratulations, thank you for coming on next revision
and you can come back anytime.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
Oh you've been amazing. You've been amazing.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
Just come and talk about anything that you like, movies, TV,
horror movies, comic books.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Just come back. Because this was a joy and it
was so great.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
And I hope you guys have a really lovely press
tour for this, and I hope that you realize that
you made something that's really really cool.
Speaker 7 (53:06):
Oh awesome. We love you.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Thank you so much, Christine, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Tuesday on X ray Vision, we're looking ahead at the
summer TV schedule.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's it for news.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Thanks for listening. Bye.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
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Speaker 4 (53:31):
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News is News.
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In today's previously on episode, we are catching you up
on the biggest geek news of the week, including new
trailers for Alien Enough and Frankenstein and a very fun,
lightly spoilery.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Chat with the Philippo Brothers.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Directors have talked to me whose newest film, Bring Her Back,
is on wide release right now and it is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But first news, First up, the Alien Earth official trailer
has dropped and the show run by Noah Hawley, who
has done such great work spinning off the world of
Fargo into its own world. Oh love that will be
running this and it is a prequel set twenty years
(01:14):
before the events of the original Alien film. Looks like
we're going to see the origins of the synth technology
and listen, I love Alien I love the world I'm in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It looks great, looks great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I can't believe how in the world it looks it
definitely Disney at Hulu.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Fox has spared no expense like John Hammond at Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
This is looking good.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I guess it's going to be kind of a hybrid
synth story. A girl's consciousness is uploaded. I think it's
going to be really interesting. I want to see those aliens.
I want to know more about this period, specifically in
Whale and your Tawny Corporation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I yeah, it looks great. I thought I looked great.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Also another iconic female lead for the franchise with a
very hilariosity, very now hack everyone's at that little little honey.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Ball going on. But yeah, it looks good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Coffe maintenance, that haircut. Oh, don't get, don't don't get.
Don't get sucked into that. If you don't have the
ability to be at the in the barber's chair of.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
A couple of years, don't begin the tiny bags. It's hot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Don't do that. Careful, careful, You're gonna be ironing those.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Things to your head. You're gonna iron down.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
They wing up.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Listen, I've seen it happen. Next up, new trailer for
Guillermo del Toro has much waited Frankenstein film, which is
coming to Netflix in November. No release state of yet,
but just in time for Halloween of twenty twenty five,
you will get to see Hot Frankenstein, Oscar Isaac, hot Monster,
Jacob Alurda.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh yeah, and he's doing another bad English accent. Guys,
what more could you want? Is that? Did you miss
it from the night? Will you wait? Hey? Where would you?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Where would you?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Where would you pinpoint that accent if you tried to?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I think people the argument online is like the Frankenstein
is like, he's a Germanic guy and he's traveled around,
so he's had lots of different accents.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm open to it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I love to see Oscar Isaac with a luscious hair.
I think that the set design looks incredible. I think
this has sparked a very important conversation that I hope
Netflix takes heed of, which is everybody wants it in theaters.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They want to see this.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
If you remember when the second NYE of the Doubt
movie came out Glass Onion, they allowed it to be
in cinemas for the weekend of Thanksgiving, I believe, and
it made like a hundred million dollars or something insane
because of how much people really wanted to go and
see that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I'm saying let's get this in theaters.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I think people love Giemo del Toro enough. I would
have loved to see his Pinocchio in theaters, and I
think that this looks like a movie that could be
good enough to get us to the theatrical release. So
please ted sarandus listen to us at least a mini
theatrical release.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I saw some great early.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Release pictures of me are Goth with this kind of
outrageous green green kind of bail.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
On that looked really cool and styly.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
We haven't had a full look at the monster yet,
but we do get to see kind of some of
the practical ways that del Toro is bringing to life
his creation.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think it looks great.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Also starring the wonderful Christoph Wilson glad to himself l Innison.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be back with
more headlines, and we're back. The PlayStation state of play
occurred recently and there's lots of things to talk about,
including new Metal Gear, Solid Delta Snake Eater game with listened,
all the weird touches that you are accustomed to if
(04:36):
you are a metal gear person, one day we need
to explore the absolutely insane metal Gear.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean it's like literally the most insane.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And also I think out there influential Samson's Creed also
secretly crazy, but like metal gear crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, I was really happy with how excited Super Produced
Joel was for the fact that there's going to be
some kind of like mini game or like with the frog,
like you can get you could catch a frog, which
you guys know is very me coded, but then the
frog is gonna like help change your camouflage. That's the
kind of weird shit that we need from metal game
and video.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Games in general.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's gonna be released super soon too, August twenty eighth,
so I guess we will be checking in on that
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
A new fighting game, a new Marvel ip fighting this
big fighting Souls so kind of like a Soul Caliber.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, it's a cell shaded fighting game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
With all the characters that you would expect, including the
Guardians of the Galaxy, including Expier Man, including Thor, including Iron.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Man, oh the miss Marvel. I Marvel.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I am not a fighting game person, but this looks
super super fun.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I love fighting games.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think that the big conversation that was had when
this was announced was in the community was basically like
good because Capcom and Marvel have not been working together well.
Marvel Bus Capcom Infinite was very controversial game, and this
looks a lot more like what the fans have been
looking for. I am very excited because this was made
by Arc Systems Works, who made Dragon Ball Fighters with
(06:08):
a Z, which I am surprisingly good at and is
one of the only modern fighting games that I can
really hold my own in after post Mortal Combat eleven,
which I just failed terribly even though that I've been
playing that franchise my whole life.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Looks great. I love the miss Marvel design.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think that in a post Rivals world this could
be a really big hit.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's a Smash Brothers seemingly all yeah as well.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Four before Tag Team Fighter, which I think is a
really popular game.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing this
as a competitive fighting game going into the future.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I can't wait. I think that this is going to
be a big hit in the fighting game community, but
also just in.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Like the Marvel community because we love to play as
these characters as rivals has proven up next.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Double O seven first light official announcement trailer. This is
kind of like a almost a Hitman style three D
third person action game from Io Interactive, the creators of
the hit Man franchise, launching a twenty twenty six of
the PlayStation five. You know, I thought this was if
(07:16):
you like the hit Man and you love Bond, this
will be a game for you.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's definitely a more action focus, less stealth focus like
the hit Man, but looks pretty fun and it seems
clearly built on.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The hit Man architect.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, and also it's gonna be Bond before he became
Double O seven very much that kind of opening scene
of Casino Royale with Daniel Craig, no suits, no Martiniz,
just like fucking people up. And I think in the
discord there was like a lot of excitement for people
to have another great James Bond game. Obviously Golden Eyes
that is the legendary one.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And I am excited and interested that they are still
just like banging out games for the PS five at
this higher.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes, and finally, in sad news. You may have seen
that King of the Hill Voice actor Jonathan Joss was
shot and killed in Texas this week. Details emerging from
that particular crime seemed to indicate that it was a
hate crime, pure and simple, and I think that there
are troubling signs that the local police are trying to
(08:26):
walk back the hate crime details of this. But Joss's
husband has claimed that Joss and himself were under constant
harassment from the perpetrator, who was uttering homophobic slurs at the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Time of the murder and indeed for years.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Police are currently looking into, they say, whether his sexual
orientation played a role in the murder, but I think
there seems to be significant evidence out there that it did.
Very very sad and troubling news.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, it's really sad stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And it is a total loss that one of the rare,
you know, comanche elder actors that we have was killed
in a hate crime. And yeah, just sending love to
his family and his partner and to all of the
incredible community that he had in Hollywood who have been,
(09:25):
you know, speaking out about this loss.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We're gonna go to a break and will be right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, and we're back it's me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Be careful if you have not seen the incredible movie
Bring Her Back, or if you're scared to see it
and you want to know how scary it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
There's light spoilers.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
In this next interview with the talk to Me direc
the Philippo Bros. About their newest a twenty four horror,
Bring Her Back, which is currently on wide release. And
if you guys want to check out the chat with
the Philipoop Bros. On YouTube, You've been asking for it,
so guess what. You can watch the whole chat on
YouTube and there's a link in the show notes to
click on and see our chat on the screen. This
(10:19):
is a very high energy interview. In case you couldn't tell,
the three of us are very similar, So enjoy this.
It's a really long chat, but it's a great chat,
and go and check out the movie because it's one
of my favorites of the year so far. How are
you guys feeling after watching seeing people watch the movie
last night and hearing it?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What was that like?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Oh my gosh, we still have not watched the movie
with an audience. Okay, yeah, it's still.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Because Jonah, who plays Oli, our he's not young. Yeah,
so he was having dinner, so we didn't want to
leave him by himself.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That is very cute of you guys.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
It's very nice, and we will terrified of watching with
an audience, but yeah more so Jonah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I was.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I was kind of hoping you guys were going to
be at least listening, just because the responses were crazy, Like.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I really I wish we did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
There were like multiple moments where people just like gave
a round of applause for the sight, for the kind
of absolute like horrific ship that you guys were putting
on the screens. Okay, so and we can talk about
this is going to be held till June, so we
can talk about spoilers. The the mouth, the biting the table,
(11:38):
people like lost their ship over that one, and while
the teeth were cracking.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
There like also the.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Arm peel.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Arm was a big one, and the knife, but that
one really freaked people out. I didn't that already because
I did the trailer launch and it was like people
were really freaking out.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Oh my gosh, I really wanted record or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.
One day we'll watch all of an audience.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, you got You've got plenty of time. You've got
plenty of time. The movie's not even out yet, but
kind of like going all the way back. Could you
talk a little bit for people our listeners who like
don't know how you guys got started. Could you talk
a little bit about Rakaaka and kind of the origins
of your filmmaking stuff and how you started with wrestling
and just really your origin story that got you to
(12:26):
hear Like, we.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Started off very very young making stuff, Like we first
got our hands on our dad's video camera when we're
like nine years old, and we haven't stopped making stuff
ever since then.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And all the way through growing.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Up, we would like mock things that we loved, so
that it was like I loved Buffy, so we do
like our own spin on Buffy. Or it was like
I love Child's Place, so we would do the Evil
Flamingo based on my sister's doll.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
It was all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
And then we had this series that we were doing
as kids, like from the ages of thirteen or eighteen.
We had like ten seasons of this thing, and then
I was like the episodes and we were on the
sixth and final film of this series, and everyone was like, wen't.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Too old to be doing this. Everyone was like yeah,
they're like why are we still making They were like,
I got kids anymore.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
But we still loved doing it, so that fell apart.
But I still needed a way to you know, make
things or express myself. So we started just making sort
of fake fails online, which is like pretending that I
stuck a knife in a toaster and it blew up.
Oh yeah, like mocking the Harlem shake and retaining this
explosion went off. So there was all these sort of
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fake fails and they were going viral online and and
and so we needed a place to like put everything,
and so we made rack Racker and that became our
job for like the next But it was never intentional
like that, yeah, because we were trying.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
We were like, we're making short films as well.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
That were we're trying to because we wanted to get
into film and television. So we were working on film
sets and trying to get enough money to make our
own short films. And we did a couple, but the YouTube,
like the online stuff was just exploding.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
And then so we put.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
A channel, made a channel rack of record and put
everything on and it just you know, it was one
video just yeah, took off. And then we're like, oh,
what if we put actual energy into this, the energy
that we're putting into the short films and stuff, Let's
put that into the YouTube channel and see where it goes.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
And then it was yeah, all for ten years or
something crazy.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
Because my job before that, because I literally can't do
anything else, I was a lab rat. So I would
check at the hospitals and then try out drugs that
weren't on the market yet.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
That was literally my job for like three years.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I'm glad you moved on from that. I feel like
this is a safer job.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I feel like I felt like three years is like
you put in your time as a medical test patient,
and you know what.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I sort of want to return. I want to make
my return trial.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
One last trial, one last job.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
They called the final trial.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Oh yeah, that's the next there we are after the
deathmatch wrestling. That's your next one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What did it feel like?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Because I feel like a lot of times when we
make up and we make movies and I make comic
books and stuff, it really does just start with like
making shit with your friends. So how did it feel
to kind of make that stuff with your friends, keep
making it, and then suddenly you put it online and
it just like changes your life and kind of changes
the trajectory of where you're going.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
It's so weird because nothing even though everything's changing, you know,
when you're in the middle of it, you don't really
reflect or realize that it's changing. It's like, oh, yeah,
this is this now, Oh this is happening now, Oh
yeah this and so like.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
That, That's what I sort of felt like.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
But I did feel like that we were getting stronger
maybe as filmmakers, all learning so much by doing so.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Much and meeting amazing people.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yeah, so like through YouTube world to meet amazing other
artists that we'd work with, some that we still work
with now, Like we are makeup artists.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Spect Burato, she used to help.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Us way back in the day, you know, with YouTube stuff,
and now she's head as apartment for makeup. You know,
there's all those people that we met along the way
that's that we know are passionate and love what they do,
and bringing them on and set with us is the
most incredible thing.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
And you don't lose that, you know.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
It's already such a mammoth task making a movie.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
It's so hard.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
You want to at least have fun while you're doing
it and surround yourself with people that are passionate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And I want to.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Be what comic books do you write?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I want to?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Okay, okay, So recently my most I've been writing Godzilla
comic books like official.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, I love Godzilla.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That we recently did one called Monster Islands Summer Camp
that's about Godzilla some Manila going to summer camp. And
that was like a graphic novel for kids. So that
was like a blessing. I actually am really really stoked
they just announced because I love horror, but for some reason,
I just like ended up writing more like kids comics.
But I have a creep Show story in the next
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Creep Show anthology. Yeah, I'm very stoked about that because
that was like definitely one of the things that scared
me as a kid. So now getting to be like
doing a version of it. And it's about like living
in like a shitty rental apartment.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So I feel like I'm getting to like Channel. I'm
like Channel I lived experience.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
It's a very personal story, this one.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly, I'm like, guys, it's emotional but you know,
you guys are sort of talking about like the makeup
and the people you've brought along, something I love about
all your movies, But I think like this in particular
really leans in to like the practical nature like horror
and SFX, and that's something that you guys were always doing.
So could you talk a little bit about like why
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that was always so important to you guys?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
It seems like I love when you can use horror
or body horror to reflect themes or to express something.
And there's stuff that you can't even put into words,
and the only way to express it is through these
sort of visuals.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
And the idea of like trying to execute something practically
and the challenge of it, and like it always feels
like those practical.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Effects stand the test of time.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
I don't know that that's always at the funnest part
where we're writing anything like it automatically, we're thinking about
that sort of stuff, like how we can execute it
and the most elaborate way possible, and it's such a
fun puzzle to try and solve.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, and you guys were working with like I got
I was lucky enough the first more or Combat movie.
I got to go to the set and like, I
fucking love morel Combat And you guys worked with Scarecrew
Studios right, like effects they're so amazing. I actually when
I did More when we did the Mortal Combat set,
they were like they knew I'm like the loser of
the set visit and they were like, who wants to
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get some facial like like Scott and walk around with
it all day And they were like, Rosie, we know
it to you and Scarecrew got to do it for
me and everything.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So I was really stoked to see. Could you talk
a little.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Bit about how like having the having those kind of
physical aspects on set and it being all in camera, Like,
can you distinctly see how that helps the cast kind
of experience it in a more real way?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah, because they're not they're not acting off something that's
not there. It's there in front of their face, you know.
And that's and even being in that makeup, in that
prosthetics helps you get to a place it's.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
It's not of it.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Yeah, So there's like a realism to it. So that's
that's always the most incredible thing. Like even when we're
feeling some.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Of that stuff, and you're like behind the camera, the
whole crew is wincing as well, like, oh yeah, it
looks so good, but it's so fucking violent.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Yeah, and because all those yeah, when you had that
collaboration of amazing artist or in practical stuff, it's like
there's a buzz that comes from it. And there is
these things where like sometimes you've only got one shot
at something, like you've made something.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, you're like, oh my gosh, this has to work.
I don't know what the fuck is going to happen
when we roll.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
The cameras, but like, yeah, like you just gotta hope,
you gotta pray, and it's always there's always something incredible
that you capture, and that's that.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It was like a part of the magic of film.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, so talk a little bit about you said, like,
talk to me, it's definitely like your party horror. I
mean we I remember the trailer launch people were talking
to you about how they were using like the hand the.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A twenty four gave out as like a bong.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So it was like it was so inherently like a
party movie. And obviously there's like a fun to that
you're working with young people. You kind of establish yourself
as like good with working with young people. But then
for Bring Her Back, you're like, Okay, how do we
do a movie that's more violent, more scary and has
a younger cast? So could you talk a bit about that.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Yeah, it's so interesting, like the young characters, because they
were developed at the same time. There was this interchange
that was sort of happening between the projects, and like
both films have like in one lens of fun Montage
but in another lens are really fucked up Montage. So
like that felt like there was a parallel there, and yeah,
they felt they feel like brother sister films to me.
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And yeah, like and the challenge of working with a
younger cast or a young cast, they just bring something
raw and authentic and they're not play pretending too much,
like they are putting themselves sort of in those positions
and playing those characters in a more real way.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
So that's always super rewarding.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Also to the idea of like helping these people break
out as well is so cool, Like I feel like
Jonah playing Oliver is gonna explode and saa if she
wanted to be sure, it could definitely be sure, Like
oh yeah, yeah, that feels really rewarding as well.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I thought Sara was like so brilliant.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I actually asked, you guys, like at the trailer launch
was I was the one who was like, so, tell
me about having someone who is like sit impaired as
your lead character.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I feel like we don't really get to have disabled
people in horror movies unless they're the villains and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And now I've seen the movie, I get you know,
Sara gets to be the final girl if there is one.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
She's obviously very traumatized. Could you talk a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I would love to hear you guys tell the story
about what inspired that character, because I thought that was
really cool.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
It was based on our friend's little sister who's non sighted,
and she was wanting to catch the bus by herself,
and her family were a little bit reluctant and a
bit worried about it because you know, it could be
really dangerous, and that she really wants to learn how
to navigate the world on her own and learn how.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
To be independent.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
And I could see both sides of that argument, and
it was a fascinating argument, and I so I continued
talking with her, and then she ended up saying I
was like, what do you feel like it would be
to see? Like, what do you think that would feel like?
What that experience be like? And she's like, I'm glad
I can't see because I don't have to see the
ugly things in the world. And it was such a
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profound statement and it became like the thematic bass for
the entire film. And she's so strong and resilient and
she like you know, fights with her brother and and
the like rough house a little bit, and and like
same with Sore, Like she fights for her dad and
rests with her dad.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
She was like, my favorite part of the movie was
geg to choke out Billy.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yes, she's so down for everything.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
She did, all her own studs, all these own studs,
and like was jumping in the pool, diving in there,
rolling down these hills.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Like gold bowl even, which is like a sport.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Really cool to see that.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
That's a terrifying It hurts so much.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
All it's so happy. I could going across the floor.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Yeh, lay there and you just hear it coming towards
your cough.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Fuck, it's a ball full of balls are bells, and
it's like you can't see your blindfolded and so you're
having to block it and you're hearing it.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
So this thing is coming.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
At you and it is terrifying and it's such a rough,
tough sport and it's just like there's a resilience. And
Sora would just like jump with the pool dive in
and was like, love being so physical and practical is amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, I love that because I also think it like
contradicts a lot of ideas about what people think about
like frailty of people who can't see, or who are disabled,
or who are women, or who women of color, And
instead we get Sura who's just like absolutely fucking going
for it at like every point.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
And will never fall down.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
She never falls, Like I don't love it, Like love
that Piper as well, always getting back up and it's like, yeah,
she inspires me and like overcomes these things, Like yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Like going down as a legendary final girl. I think like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
She fucking does that moment when she just fucking throws
the glass into Laura's head.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Everyone in the.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Cinema was just like like everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Was like what a fucking throw, Like just like like
don dumb right in the fore Ye yes, I also
thought something was really cool about the bell ball kind
of sports scene.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
It's like the ball is coming towards Sora as like
everything just like every something comes towards Viper as everything
fucking comes towards I thought that was really really cool,
and I would yeah, I mean the movie is definitely
I think part of the reason I love it is like, uh,
it spoke very deeply to like my experience of like
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being a kid, and I think, like something I really
loved and feel free to be like funk off.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I don't want to talk about the themes.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
The art should speak for itself, but like I really
love I think a lot of times about how, like
I don't have any kids, I will never have kids,
but like I think a lot about how like kids
are viewed kind of as adults property like if you,
if you're an adult, you can like beat your kid
and nobody cares, but if you beat your wife then
you shouldn't do that, you know, Like, and a kid
is seen as kind of this like the thing that
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is an extension of yourself, And I thought the movie
was really interesting around that and kind of the agency
of these kids who go through this terrible thing and
then they just put them with this other adult and
they're like, they'll look after you now.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
So could you kind of talk about the.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Real life inspirations that led you to make this movie,
because it's like it does feel like a companion piece
to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But I think people who've.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Only really watched Rakaraka or who have seen talk to me,
I think they are going to be really shocked by
kind of how dark this movie goes.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Yeah, there were so many different things that were inspiring
different thematic parts of the film, and like it's always
tapping into things that like freak you out.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Or scare you and so like a never ending grief
cycle and not.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Being able to break out of that was a really
big thing that was a thematic part. And then the
idea of us psychologists that is trained to help nurture
and fix people, like using those skills to try and
break somebody that is so terrifying to me.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Oh yeah, an adult.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Guardian with uh, you know, different motives, motives that's you're
supposed to it's supposed to be trusting and I'm the.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Person who takes care of you and yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Yeah, and then that and there's there's things in life
that kind of inspire that that experiences that that's like, oh,
this person is supposed to be looking after us, and
there's just that there's other things that like that that
that's not their whole reason. Like you're you're full trusting
in them, but there's that's not their full thing, you know. Yeah,
and then also like like looking at Laura in a
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way that it's like not always like an inherently bad person,
and like how how this has twisted her and like
this grief has turned her into a monster and in
turn she's turning this other kid into a monster. Yeah,
there's just so many things and it's so hard to
like put into words, but like usually putting it out
there as a way to.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah, you know, I think like even for me, there
was something that felt very cathartic about watching the movie
and kind of so I'm sure that for you guys
it's the same. It's like you put it on the screen.
But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm really excited. I want
to my mum, I want my friends who are mums
to watch it because I even just as like an
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I have a lot of nieces and nephews. I am
like a perennial auntie and I love that. But like
even for me, like the early parts of the movie,
I'm like thinking, I don't want to think those things,
but I have OCD, so I'm constantly ruminating. But like
I'm like watching it and I the brain is going like, well,
what if that was your niece or what if that
is your nephew, And even for that, it's like the
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gut check is like so fucking huge of like, well,
I probably would do anything, but like where is the
line of anything?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I want to know?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like I want to see the parents watching this movie
and hearing their response is because I think that's going
to be like a really interesting, unexpected kind of response
because we don't really get a lot of horror that
is about like the realities of being a parent, or
like the kind of the absolute inherent that you just
constantly have if you love a child, because you're like
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something terrible could happen. Yeah, that's basically your life once
you have a kid.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
And there was like there was so many different parents
that we spoke to, and that's like a part of
the process as well, when you're building out these characters
and listening to certain experiences and then even like a
mum talking about like her nightmare for years there were
stairs in their house that she would wake up, come
down and you know the kid had fallen down the
stairs or passed away, and.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like that is so horrific. And then like talking about
like yeah, where would that line be? How far would
you go? Like what would you do?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
And like that's always fascinating hearing the answers, And then
like one thing like between all of them is like
they would definitely take their life or lose.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Like yeah, yeah, there would be like they would swap
their life, no question.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So then you start like, well who else is life exactly?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's always the thing. Okay, what about
this And they're like.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, and then they're like, don't record me, Like this
is a trap, guys.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
This is totally anonymous hypothetical question.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Would you kill a child?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Yeah, but there's there has been a lot of moms
that have watched it that there aren't even horror fans
that I've loved the movie.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I feel like it's gonna find an audience there, kind
of like The Babba Duke.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Did you guys worked.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
On Yeah, it was awesome. We loved working on the Marble.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Yeah, it was amazing, And yeah, it's so so fascinating
because like in my head only because because my YouTube
audience is always fifty to twenty five year old guys,
that's always what I think the audience is always gonna be.
And and so like we sat we've sat next to
people and watched it in like well like trying out
cuts and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
And watching of moms and stuff, and their reaction is
way more profound than.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Anyone else's, which is so beautiful and so magical, and
having like a deep conversation about it afterwards.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah, it's super simp awarding.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, also as well, like your audience is growing up.
Like I hate to tell you guys, but you guys
have been doing this for quite a long time.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like we're all getting old terrible news. I'm not cool.
I'm not cool. I do fight with that every day.
I'm like, guys, I have tattoos, you tell.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I'm like cool, Like I'm not, like I'm not like
other adults guys.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
But like also.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Every adult thinks they look younger than they do exactly,
Like I don't even look like I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
They're still like deeing me like you just live in
American They fucking id everyone. But like, also there is
like a version of this where kids have like grown
up with your storytelling. And for someone who is now
in that like twenty eight and above, there's a chance
that they have kids.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And they watch this and they're like, oh shit, like this.
Shit's like you guys are growing up with them, you know.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Yeah, they're more mature than we are. But what's amazing.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Yeah, it's so interesting like meeting people that have grown
up on the videos and like the support like from people,
it's been so incredible, Like like there were just people
like around the block.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
At the screen.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
That was crazy, right, it's the it's the warmest feeling,
like I feel, Yeah, I feel so.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Lucky to be able to do this and to have
people be that supportive. It's yeah, it's so incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
What was it like taking that step from because you
were like always wanting to make movies, right, and that's
why you started it. Then you diverge into this like
unexpected online career that's like a smash hit success, so
you've already achieved a lot of the stuff that people
want to achieve. How did it feel to then take
that step into filmmaking, like feature filmmaking with talk to
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me like what how did it feel when you made it?
And not just that how did it feel when, like
you say, with this, like suddenly everybody loved it and
you're getting those screenings and you're getting that kind of
understanding of like, Okay, we're connecting with people.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
You never know what the because we had a screening,
We've talked to me in Adelaide where we're from. Before
it got into Sundance or anything like that, it was
just with family and friends in the cast, and then
you know, we showed it and then.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
We're speaking to people. What do you guys think? And
everyone's like, who's good?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Where do we what? What now? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:18):
And then so and I would never believe people when
they said that they liked it. And then when it
got into Sundance, it was suddenly like, oh my god,
this there might be something here. And then all those
studios came to the Sundance screening and they wanted the movie.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
All these different people wanted the movie.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
It was such a bringing back who was screening and
people were saying that they liked it.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I was like, I don't believe I.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Like, what do you like about it?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
What do you hate about it?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's the that's like the ultimate creative cast is like
whatever we make, even if somebody loves it, we're gonna
be like probably not good, you know, just okay, h.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Cold better Rosie?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Can I say something it could be better?
Speaker 8 (33:17):
I love your laugh, Rosie, It's very.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
My mom used to call it a Sid James laugh,
like from carrying those old carry on movies.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's like I was in the Dude, I was feeling
bad yesterday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I was in the arrow and like something terrifying would
happen on Scream and and I'd be like and then
I'd be like that that that gang. Like I'd be
in the cinema, I'm killing the bie saying they all
these influences, just like I didn't used to love it,
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but now I love it. Like I'm like I'm cackling, like.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It's like I just think that there is something about
finding like community in horror, and that is why, like
I'm from London originally, but I love living in la
like the magic of like being able to just like
go to a movie screening like that last night and
I was really no joke, guys. I when I'm getting old,
as we talked about, but like I used to be.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like a gorehound.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Like in my review that I did on Letterbox of
the movie, I gave it five stars. By the way, guys,
I actually I really fucking loved it.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I was like, I was very profoundly moved by the movie.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
My true I'm going to be speaking to my therapist
about it, and like, but I I compared it to Martyrs,
which was like a movie that I saw a long
time ago and that really profoundly affected me and I
never watched it again.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
But I said, your movie was.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Better, because I I love Martyrs, but like this is
like this is a different level of.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Sci was a tough one. I've only ever watched it once.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And the funniest thing is I wrote the letterboxed review
and as I was, I waiting to use the bathroom afterwards,
and there was a girl behind me, Alexandria, who we
immediately became friends, and she was wearing a fucking Martyrs
T shirt.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
And I was like, this is like fucking blow in
my mind.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But it's like I had actually messaged my incredible friend James,
and I was like, hey, man, like, I'm really scared
to watch this movie. I was like, I used to
be like a French new extremity like sore Gorehound, but
as I've gotten older, that has like changed and I've
kind of had less of an appetite for it. And
i'd been to the trailer launch, so I'd seen the
(35:32):
knife scene and uh, I really got into my own
head about it by message shames, and I was like,
you know what, the one good thing is like, even
if I'm really scared and I don't know anyone, and
I didn't, it's gonna be in the era where there's
just gonna be tons of people who fucking love movies
and that's like a great place to be.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And that's and that was kind of how I went
into it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And I ended up just thinking it was it was
so great and I was not that scared.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
It was just like I was crying a lot.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
It's one of those experiences. I loved the film culture,
the film culture in LA and.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
When you go to New York, it's like, I can
I love how much people love film. Yeah, it's such
a like there is a bit of a film movement
inside Australia, but it's not like this where you can
go and watch all these obscure films.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Even in London, like they don't have They had like
one cinema that I love, Prince Charles Cinema where I
feel like, you guys will definitely be for this movie
because it's kind of our big rep cinema. But like
in la you can just be like, oh, I really
wish I could go and see like Possession, and they're like, well,
there's three screenings today and this is fucking great Heaven exactly,
(36:32):
it's it's and it's so it's very amazing to kind
of have that community and have that space of just
people who love movies and who are always excited to
see something like like this. Like most people went into
this like really knowing nothing about it apart from the trailer,
which I feel like you guys left stuff very open ended.
It doesn't really reveal a lot. So it was it
(36:53):
was very cool to see just how much people responded
to it. And like you said, I mean I texted
the producers of the pot I texted our group chat
and was like, there is like a two hundred people
lying here. I was like, this is like very crazy,
Like this is, and so it was very cool to
see just how excited.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
People are for it. Is that heartwarming for you guys?
Or is it like scary?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
It's all it's all yeah. I don't exactly know how
to feel about it. I know it warms my heart
and it is like a.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Fear for people watching it.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
And you know what was funny is that the line
was big out there and a bunch of people couldn't
get in, and I was like, I'm going to go
like say hello to.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
The people that went a loud in. So I quickly
went around.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
The block and was shaking everyone's hands, but no one
knew that they weren't not getting in.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
So I was.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There, Yeah, I'm really sorry, man, Yeah you make it in.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Yeah they're And they're like, I'm asking me, you can't
wait to see the film?
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Can't wait to get in? And I was like, oh no,
you can't come in.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It was so bad.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah they know, yeah, they know. Yeah, you talking.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
About it like a twenty four is bringing you to
every screening there.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Now they're like, okay, guys, go tell them. We don't
want to tell them of Philip. Our brothers are here.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
They're gonna tell you ain't getting in if you see
Michael or Danny, you're not going.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, that was that was tough. That was it was.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
It was very heartwarming and the energy was incredible. It
was it was an amazing night. It was amazing. And
it's so called Saura, you know for Australia is like
in Hollywood, bell like at a film from here.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That that is incredible to me as well.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, I thought that was really amazing that you guys
like had Saura and Jonas and Billy out there, like
because the.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Movie is really theirs.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Like obviously you have Sally Hawkins, who we have to
talk about because she's Sally fucking.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Hawkins, But like, what was it?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
How does it feel to have seen the kids go
through the experience of making it and then get to
see them kind of getting that acclaim because especially from
the reviews that I was reading and the friends I
spoke to, I'm a I'm definitely a Sora was my breakout.
But I think a lot of people were really blown
away by Billy. I think that performance is really going
to put him in those kind of conversations.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Yeah, so it's so that is like the most rewarding thing.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
And then hearing them applaud them and then being proud
of the film as well, Like you hear about people
that make films that they're not proud of or they're
like embarrassed, like they're so proud of the movie.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Like Sarah loves the movie, Billy loved the movie. Isn't
allowed to watch the movie?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
That's so funny. How old is he? Like twelve?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Now twelve? It was filmed eleven.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
When he's got like he's got sensible parents because when
I was his age, I was watching like Texas Chainsaw Massive.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Oh my god. Yeah, mom would have let me, but
I just a fire and watched it anyway.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, it was actually banned in the UK till two
thousand and one, so was it really Yeah, because of
video nasty rules, it just never got unbanned.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
So like my dad had like a shitty VHS tape
copy that was like what it's like.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Internet video nasties, Like, yeah, twelve, I like, I think
I think my twelve year old self probably would have
been better not watching some movies.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
So good for good for Jonah's parents.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
Yeah, but it was because everyone's worked so hard in
the movie, Like everybody did. Everyone gave so much of
themselves to make it the best thing possible, so to
be able to bring them there so they can experience
the rewards of it was so incredible that that last
night was so much fun and just having fun with
them and celebrating with everyone because it is such a
(40:26):
hard process to make a movie and like, so they
did all that hard work so to be able to
reward them.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
They're down, like yeah, these like Australian kids in hills.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Also, like Jonah was like running around with like all
his little friends, Like yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It was like you were at a wedding, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
And they got to say, like they were like running
I guess they were like running up and down like
that on the balcony and I.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Was like, yes, I love this. This is exactly how
it should be.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
And all the drunk the drunk uncles, this is our
whatever look at It's so funny. This is our Sora's
dad and Jonah's dad in the photo booth together.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
God, that's so cute.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
He is a picture of two dads and they are
looking very excited to be there. I made I made sure,
like I saw Sura with her dad, and I made
sure to go up and I was like, congratulations sor
you're really really good, and I was like, I was like,
I hope you feel in that dad in your heart
that like I'm like, she did it, Like this is if,
like you said, if she wants to pursue it, I
think all three of them are going to be in
(41:29):
a great position. I mean, Jonah, he could become like
a creature actor, like the youngest world's youngest monster actor,
like young Doug Jones, you.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Know, yeah, yeah, and so physical and so down for it.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
And then it was on the table where it's like
you don't have to do the prosthetics side of it.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
Once the demon starts breaking out of you.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
We can get like an older actor and stuff like that,
because there is a lot of prosthetics, like it is
going to be like you know, it's full on.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
But he was like no, no, no, like I want
to do it. I want to do it.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
And he was so down for it and keen for
it and never complained and yeah that to do that
every day with prosthetics and with a smile on his
face and want to come back and do more.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, that's a way forever.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
And deb too, we had that those conversations with production,
but like there's a chance he just doesn't want to
do it.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I doesn't want to come back back. And it's understandable.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
It's like we have to have like a fallback planner
every and but yeah, he was just the best.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
It was.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You were just so into it. I mean, it really
is in a way like his movie. You know, there's
like that's kind of one of the things I love
about the movie too, is you can really watch it
from like any perspective. It can be Laura's movie, it
can be Piper's movie, it can be Annie's movie, it
can be you know, Jonah's movie, and or shall we
say Ollie for now. But but yeah, I just I
(42:38):
thought it was just, yeah, astonishingly good and obviously at
the heart of that aside from these brilliant kids who
I love and everyone on the podcast who listen to
podcasts knows, I love to have like my little children,
and I will kill anyone if they do something to
them in the movie.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And I was really I was struggling.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I was like crying in the seat next we like
sorry to the lovely, very glamorous couple next to me,
and then the lady next to me who was so
fucking scared. She's streaming, but I was like crying away,
just like a little grandma watching, like how could.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You do this to my dolly children? What are you doing?
But otherwise obviously it's it's Sally Hawkins.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
So could you talk a little bit about that casting
because I feel like this is so different for her,
but I also feel like, in a post Sinners world,
I feel like this.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Could be like an Oscars type.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Role for I just feel like she's so unbelievable and
so different in this role. So could you talk about
getting like these Sally Hawkins? And was that always your
dream casting for Laura? Like how did it happen?
Speaker 8 (43:41):
It's literally like there was a list that was made
up and like Sally was at the top of the list,
And like watching her films and every single time she's
in a movie, she's completely different. Like I love her
in Internal Beauty and I love her with Jasmine, and
I love her and Paddington, and.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Like Paddington is like a transformative performance. The movie doesn't
exist without you believe that she's talking to Paddington every
single time. Like I was showing it to friends recently
and I was like, this is why it works like
Paddington is real to her in this movie, So to
go from that to this is like a juxtaposition.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
It certainly is.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
And I was like, I felt impossible that we're going
to get her because because that Filmophe was so strong,
and because she played roles like pantenting, and she'd never
taken on.
Speaker 7 (44:23):
Like a horror or a full genre role. So I
was like, I don't think she'd even be interested and
I'm not gonna hear from her.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
So we sent the script and we waited a couple
of days, and then they got back to us to
like Sally loved the script.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
And I was like what. I was like, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Like she loved the script and like she wants to
talk to you guys. And then and then the next
feel was she's gonna have an ego that like she's
gonna have.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
A girlfriend ego because Hawkins.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
So you wouldn't even blame her, But you're also like,
do I want to work with that?
Speaker 8 (44:53):
Like how Yeah, it's kind of like we want to
be able to be open with people and try things
and not be nervous about acting someone. So but after
that first call with her, she was so down to
earth and amazing and picked up all these little nuances
in the script that no one else had that and
she was saying like she wanted to go deep. She said,
(45:13):
she likes going deep with the character. She walks around
the shops as the character. She she buys stuff to
dress to set as in character, like.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
All that stuff in character she does.
Speaker 7 (45:26):
That was the best light. That was good. It was
funny because every house that we went to to ding
Dong dam.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Wait for context, there's a scene in the movie that
got cut where Laura takes these kids.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Ding Dong dashing.
Speaker 8 (45:36):
Uh and yeah, so that and then one night we'll
like it was like midnight and we're going through the
script through the beats, we're talking about ding Dong dashing
and we said, do.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You want it?
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Should we go? Haven't you ever d dash? Yeah? She's like, yeah,
should we go? Yes?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes, She's like, can we less than ding Dong dashing?
Speaker 7 (45:55):
The funniest thing, because Sally is so funny.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
Every house that we went to she had a different
excuse that she was ready the drapes.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
There might be someone in there all.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
The tree, the tree, this could actually be a murderer
in this house. Guys, I'm in the you know, I'm
in the mindset and the spider website.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
That's not right, that's all right, not this one, every house. Yeah,
and then she did it and then like the one
that she did had cameras at the front of it,
so I know, you know, the hair sprinting away, the funniest.
He is so cute.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
She's like, yeah, she's just unbelievable. So once she's on
set and you I love it. I love like a
limited set setting movie. And the house is like so beautiful.
Once she's on set and she's there with the kids, Like,
how does it kind of feel to start putting that
(46:56):
to screen? Because this is just so different tonally and
is aesthetically like such a gorgeous movie. But there's also
like law as the kids would say, l O I
E not l A w as or my Discord members
always drag me for like I know, I'm English, bro,
That's why it sounds like that. But like, but like,
there's there's so many different levels to it, but at
(47:17):
the heart of it is this kind of familiar relationship.
So what did it start to feel like once you
were there with the family that you'd build and kind
of start delving into that kind of darkness.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
Well, it was like as much as we could, we
structured the film so that the more difficult stuff was
at the end for sa so you could build up
to like other heavier scenes, but like Sally as well,
so we really track the performance and that naturally it
was very sequential and it was very much like from
them arriving from the house was the first thing that
we show everyone in and like they were able to
(47:47):
get comfortable and grow into their characters and and you
know what's coming, and like Sally's so good in these scenes.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So good early on, like you want to live there. Yeah,
that's the thing I thought, you guys, Scott, that was
so cool.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
Like I was.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
I was homeless when I was a teenager, and I
interacted with so many different like cool adults who would
let you drink, who would smoke with you, who, But
so often there was something behind that and the reason
that they're hanging around with a teenager or that they're
happy with that kind of behavior.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
So there were just so many levels to those early moments.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
But at the same time, I absolutely still wanted to
be in that house, like with her, Like she has
this magnetism even when from early on, you know, like
she's cutting out Andy, she's not interested in him being there.
The photo got like such a huge laugh in the
cinema because I think it just established very quickly when
you and Sally does this, like there's this incredible moment.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
She takes a selfie of her and the kids and
she does this huge grin, like just.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
The happiest those fucking Paddington grin and every and but
she blocks out Andy and you understand very quickly that
Piper is is the focus, you know, but you still
she manages to make it so warm and so fun
that even though you know what's coming, you want to
be in there.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Yeah, that's her, And that's not like the way that
she's able to balance all these different things, and like
it was like like like Laura's over compensating a little
bit here, like yeah, and so like she's able to
play all these little things so subtly and so beautifully,
and then like the idea, like she's able to portray
this stuff. This is so exciting to shoot the stuff
that's coming, Like I can't even imagine.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
What this is going to be like.
Speaker 8 (49:27):
And like Sally gets in such an amazing zone and
when she's there, she's there. And there were scenes where
she was so scary to approach. She was so in
the character and in the moment and stuff, and she's
like like pacing and crying between takes.
Speaker 7 (49:40):
And stuff, and you're like going up and trying to talk.
And then but then there's also.
Speaker 8 (49:44):
If she always gives one hundred percent, even in rehearsals.
So we say we're doing rehearsals as there's a part
where she falls.
Speaker 7 (49:52):
Down, and there's some people like, now, don't fall down, Sally.
We can put them out here if.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
You want to say, no, I'm not going to fall down.
As soon as we start by just going through the
ass every take is like she's the is the goal,
Like she's going for one hundred percent, even.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
When the cameras aren't rolling.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
Even when it was Andy by himself in his room
and there's going to be a knock at the door
from Laura. She wanted to do that even though she's
not gonna be on camera. She wanted to just be everything.
Everything is incredible, and even Oliver like pushing up against
there's a part where he pushes up against the wall
and stunt.
Speaker 7 (50:26):
He's like I'm gonna put some pads on. She's like,
would Laura be wearing?
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, bruises and even if they like they're jumping into
the pool when she gets Kathy was the first thing
that we shot, was the very first thing, and everyone
there's safety had like a wet suit for her to
wear to jump in, and she's like.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Wearing She's like, I don't think she'd have time to
put that on the excuse me, no, I will.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
I thought she was like so astonishing, And I just
think that people are going to be really excited. I
could talk to you all day about the movie, but
I also don't want to take up all your time.
So just I think something people are really gonna want
to talk about is the knife scene. So last, just
before I let you guys go, what are your memories
of recording that scene on that day? Because I think,
like it looks really scary, but I'm guessing on set
(51:20):
was probably kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Because it's so out there. So could you talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
And kind of Jonah that performance in that moment, because
I think it's going to be like one of the
defining moments of the movie.
Speaker 8 (51:30):
It's so it's yeah, literally, when you're doing any of
that practical stuff, it's so fun He's not this foam
knife that he's like gnawing on and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
He's got these teeth that have magnets in it so
we can.
Speaker 8 (51:41):
Control and they're sort of pushing it off and there's
like a bit of metal that's hidden under the foam knife.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
So let's try and get this and push this here
so it's not this fake magnet teeth in. And then
we built his face as like a mannequin and it
was like so photo real, and then we had a
real knife on that like the lip could get cut.
Speaker 8 (51:57):
Yeah, so it was design that the lip could get
cut in every thing. So like all of that stuff
was like you're grabbing all these different it's so funny.
Jonah said that because Danny was the one doing the
like cutting the lip.
Speaker 7 (52:06):
To get the right like of course, and there's a
lot of repressed aggressions. Face. You've been mucking around a
lot of sas you've been danged on.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Dashing people with us.
Speaker 7 (52:19):
How dare you?
Speaker 3 (52:20):
How dare you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (52:22):
That?
Speaker 7 (52:22):
I think it's one thing, so.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
Like really quickly just jumping back to Sally, Like the
most magical part of the whole thing was movie nights
of Sally Hawkins.
Speaker 7 (52:30):
Like I watched Whatever Happened to Baby Jane with shut
Up that their was heaven. I loved it.
Speaker 8 (52:37):
And she was like doing the characters' voices, like she's
mocking them and doing the thing, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
God, she's so incredible.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I love that so much.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
And guys, congratulations, thank you for coming on next revision
and you can come back anytime.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
Oh you've been amazing. You've been amazing.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
Just come and talk about anything that you like, movies, TV,
horror movies, comic books.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Just come back. Because this was a joy and it
was so great.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
And I hope you guys have a really lovely press
tour for this, and I hope that you realize that
you made something that's really really cool.
Speaker 7 (53:06):
Oh awesome. We love you.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Thank you so much, Christine, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Tuesday on X ray Vision, we're looking ahead at the
summer TV schedule.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's it for news.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Thanks for listening. Bye.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie
Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
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Speaker 4 (53:37):
Producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
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