November 13, 2025 • 39 mins
Rosie is joined by super producer Joelle Monique to discuss the lasting cultural impact of Netflix's Stranger Things. D&D and Eggos weren't the only things that saw a boost after the 2016 debut of the 80s nostalgia-fueled series. It also gave birth to new stars like Sadie Sink, Finn Wolfhard, and Maya Hawke. Rosie and Joelle predict the future of these stars and list out the five most impactful moments from the series.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Today's episode con taste light spoilers for Stranger Things season
one to three, but more so, it's an exploration of
the impact of Stranger Things and Netflix on streaming.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello. My name is Rosie Night and I'm Joan Monique.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where
we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and
pop culture. We are here at iHeart Podcast, where we'll
be bringing you three episodes a week plus news news.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Do I sound like a Grumlin today?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I do that too? Sometimes something it's got to be.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's the plus plus news. I love it. Oh gosh, guys,
we have such an exciting show for you today. We
are going to be talking about the way Stranger Things
has impacted the culture. All Right, maybe you weren't there,
maybe you don't remember. Possibly we're doing lots of drugs
between now and then. You know, we don't know your life,
(01:11):
but we want to revisit it, and honestly, good for you. Okay,
you're surviving. We get it. So we had to talk
about the history. We're gonna talk a little bit about
the five big moments that shaped and changed us, and
then we're gonna talk about the future of the precious
babies who were given to us unto us through this show.
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So yeah, here we go. First, let's talk about the
history now. Before we started recording Rosie, we were talking
about our different experiences coming into Stranger Things. Yes, what
was yours in England? Because it was different.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, Netflix didn't really exist in the same way in England.
Netflix did not have the massive known quantity effect of
being a DVD by male company, though I will say
I do if I'm not mistaken, I do believe there may.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Have been a small.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Version of that in the UK, but we were generally
not able to watch Netflix until I would say, like
the early early zeros, Like I'm actually, wow, guys, I'm
learning so much about Netflix right now and my own
memory of my life because actually Netflix was not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Launched in the UK until.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like twenty twelve, so I was actually, yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Wow, that was crazy wow.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So yeah, love love that, And that was like six
years after Netflix had already sent out like a billion
DVDs or something, you know, like they were so established,
but we didn't really know what they were. But yeah,
twenty twelve was that big thing. And then you know,
a year later you get first Netflix original, so for
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us and for its perception in Europe, it comes as
a streaming service boom, and then you get House of
Cards and then you get Stranger Things. So I think
for me, like I was not a big Stranger I mean,
I wasn't a big House of Cards head at that time.
So I think for me, I really have such a
distinct memory of like Netflix Stranger Things. The Stranger Thing
(03:23):
logo is red, the Netflix logo is red, Like they're
so intertwined for me, and like I think, I mean,
we were just watching Stranger Things on Netflix on my
friend's computer, you know, in her house, and yeah, I
just I really remember it. It felt so definitive to me
that Stranger Things in Netflix were were kind of forever
connected in my cultural mind. How was it for you,
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because obviously Netflix was like established in the late nineties, right.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, so Netflix is birthed in ninety seven. I would
say it catches on by like oh four, Like that's
my recollection. My recollection is uh and O four. I'm
in high school. I remember my dad signing up and
being like, there's this DVD delivery service that's really dope.
(04:08):
We should check it. Out. We have access to all
these DVDs of movies we have never seen. That's great.
What I remember when I got to college, it was
sort of a revelation because before Netflix, all you have
our cable or your local antenna, but antenna stopped being
produced on TVs, and also cable became completely outpriced for
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like a college like it was, there was no winning.
And then here comes Netflix, and if I remember correctly,
we played like five ninety nine for Netflix. Maybe you
know that's easy to split between like four roommates in
a two bedroom and now we have TV magically and
we love it. And back then Netflix is mostly movies,
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so they don't really they're not into their TV getting
bad yet. So that's how I remember sort of coming
into Netflix now twenty six teams.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Why I thought Stranger Things came out earlier than twenty sixteen,
but it's premiere to Age July fifteenth, twenty sixteen. So
now I'm firmly established in Los Angeles. I've moved on
from Chicago, and from what I can remember of those
early days of Stranger Things, I remember both that we
were coming toward maybe the apex of the eighties renaissance
(05:22):
at this point, right and stranger things. For some was
like this too on the nose, we hate it? Why
is it so eighties and in your face annoying? I
think the rest of the world was like, this is awesome,
Like it's giving nostalgia fuel. The D and D Nerds
were like, we are seen and heard and respected. The
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lore taken so seriously and with such great vibrato. And
I think what really moved the needle for me was like,
whenever you cast as many children, it's almost impossible to
get solid performances out of all of them, and there's
not really a weak acting link in the bunch. Yeah,
you're able to believe and follow these kids. Their adventures
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feel emotionally grounded and yet still accessible to young children.
They can enjoy it as an old person, like it's
really a four quadrant series. You want to watch it
with everybody, from the bicycle chase scenes to the demogorgans
to just like the basement, like playing in like that whole,
Like if you I hung out in a lot of
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basements going. I grew up in the Midwest Tornado alley,
so we were always in a basement. Uh, and I
just like the nostalgia feels all of it was really hitting,
especially early on. What we didn't know was that there
would be ages, sometimes centuries, it would feel like, between seasons,
and that's had a real impact on the series. How
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do you think the series has been sort of impacted
both are exs on how long between seasons and our
ability to carry over from season to season and continue
on with the show.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I would definitely say that I think most of
us who cover TV, you know, this show was released the.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Same year that I moved out to America.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Actually, wow, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that now. It's
just kind of crazy, and I just have such a
distinct memory of like it was such a nostalgic Yeah, Like,
we definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Could tell it was very tropy.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
We were like noticing all the you know, homages, let's
put them in comment like quote marks, because there's a
lot of ripping off going on too. But like, but
you know, it immersed us. It was something fun, It
was something that felt really unique to what was coming
out on TV at the time. It felt very streaming,
and I think that ironically has kind of still been
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shaping what we expect from these companies. And the companies
have used that as a way to change the format,
the shape, the amount of episodes. Stranger Things is an
incredible TV show, but you know, over nine seasons it
will you know, barely have if you can believe it,
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actually less than fifty episodes. There will only be forty
two episodes of Stranger Things by the time, Wow, see
the whole series comes to an end. And that is
extremely different to what we have seen in the past.
As we know, like shows you'd like Riverdale was one
of the last shows we'll probably ever get that would
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get a twenty two to twenty five episode run, and.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It was some of the craziest stuff you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And that was coming out every single year with Stranger
Things because it was a massive success. It was a
very different kind of TV show. It wasn't a one
camera drama show. It wasn't a prestige style TV show.
It was a huge genre show with a massive budget
and special effects. Suddenly they had to make a follow up,
and I think I think that because they were so
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new in the game, the follow up took a longer time,
and then that started to establish. I mean, when this
show first came out, I had just left working in
a comic bookshop. That was my main career. By the
time season three came out, I was a professional journalist
who was able to visit the set of season three
in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So just that that is a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was a long time that was not a short
period of time. But like that set up a new
expectation from these shows. It also set up something which
I think is one of the biggest impacts of this show,
you know, not particularly positive one, but definitely a true one,
which is the way that the series utilized branding and
(09:45):
I am assuming many many product placement deals to finance itself.
Means that Stranger Things was able to use brands as
nostalgia and was able to then be selling Stranger Things
branded Eggos, Stranger Things branded seventies or eighties cover KitKat, like,
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there were so many different things. And obviously that has
gone way beyond that now to the point where now
you have you know, Stranger Things X Teenage Mutant Ninja, Turtles,
action figures, and you have Demo Gordon plushes and Target
and stuff. So it ended up becoming a brand in
of itself, but a lot of that, Yeah, no, at
the nostalgia of other brands, and then they use that
(10:28):
to turn themselves into a sellable nostalgia brand. And now,
because it's taken nine years, there are kids who feel
nostalgic about season one.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Mind blowing bananas. I think there's no better example of
that than D and D. And what we've seen coming
out like watching these kids play D and D ignited
a desire to learn about D and D in me.
I mean genuinely went to my friend's place and was like,
how come we're not playing DND? Does that make sense
to you? Because we like all Oh absolutely, we love building,
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we love storytelling, we love creating a character. Ask me
how long I spend creating characters and video games I've
never finished. I love crafting. And I think there's the
reason D and D is where it's at today is
because of what happened with Stranger Things. So yeah, the
impact absolutely cannot be denied. We're gonna go to break
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real quick, and when we come back, we're gonna talk
about the five most impactful moments from Stranger Things to
stay and we're back. Oh my god, he recapping that
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show is so weird. I've been revisiting it as we
prepare you and Jason have a lovely season four recap
coming up. I've been trying to refamiliarize myself with the
show and the number of iconic moments, and we should
say it was interesting earlier you were talking about the
time between shows. So like season one premier July fifteenth,
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twenty sixteen, then October twenty seventeen we get season two.
It is then two years later in twenty nineteen, again
back in July we get season three. Season four comes
out May twenty seventh, twenty twenty two. So there will
be four years and.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Some yeah, difference then, yeah, and then four years now.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's uh, it's daunting. Yeah, three years. I I what
is math? Guys, please don't judge me. I'm sort of
blown away by the moments. I think, you know, running
up that hill is one that everyone kind of remembers.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I actually think for me, I would say that's probably
the defining scene of the show now, just culturally, I
think I've I was talking to Jason, I was like, basically,
here is what you see in the garden of every
fancy person in La They have a floating max. They
still do, and it's an incredible thing. It looks incredible
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and that is like decorations.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, they have them all over.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And they're so great, and I think that to me
is taken over from say the Four Bikes, and in
its own way, it's actually pretty cool because it is
more unique than necessarily the four Bikes, which was very
much homage to your etis and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I want to shout out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's something that I know people have been skipping in
their rewatches.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I know you've been doing this and that is acceptable,
but I have been in there arguing the goodness of
In season three, there was a very maligned episode where
Eleven goes to Chicago and she goes and it is
essentially an adventure where she ends up finding out that
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she has a lost sisters that it's episode seven, and
she finds Carli, who is number eight, and it is
legitimately fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's basically a really brilliant teen X Men episode, and
at the time people.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Just did not get it, and you know why, because
they don't like a story that's just about Eleven. It
has to be in the context of the men in
her life. It has to be Hopper, it has to.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Be the boys.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But here she gets to go have her own existence,
find her sister, have this found family kind of realization
that then inspires her to allow her to save Hawkins
and her friends because she understands the importance of friends,
She understands the importance of found family.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I thought it was super cool. It's really punky everyone.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
When it came out. Oh, I think the Lost Sister
goes in the top five because I think it's we
get a story that's actually just about eleven. It's not
about eleven in Henry Creole, It's not about eleven and
her shit head dad. It's not about eleven ship that
she had second dad. Hot, but it's not about.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's about eleven and Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's just about it's not about eleven relationship.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I obnoxious, if not very honest about what if you
find a romantic interest at that age? So obnoxious mostly
sometimes okay, can sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So those are so far we've got running up that
hell and then we've got I'm doing the Lost Sister.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
What's your third My sister is so bold, Rosie so bold, dude.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I know I'm gonna put it in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Then I'm gonna tell everyone you better be watching it, Guys,
I'm gonna make an infographic and put it on Instagram
and saying.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wow, I should threaten you. Uh, then let me also
threaten you with a good time. His name is Joseph Quinn.
In this show, he plays Eddie Monthson, Bass got long hair,
and he shreds on guitar, and he's friends with all
of the losers. You'd want to be his best friend.
After watching this show, good kid labeled bad misunderstood because
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he wants to be a punk in the eighties and
people don't get it. But he's actually the most golden
hearted teddy bear. Joseph Quinn jumping in made me care again. Yeah,
I think I'm back.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Most of our extra vision coverage of season four at
the time when it came out was us talking about
the impact of Eddie Munson. There has been a lot
of talk about whether or not he's coming back. They
denied that he is coming back this season, but I
feel like he at least we at least have to
get a vision of him, especially now we understand the
way that Vecna is connected to the upside Down and
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the way that it seems like there are other people
who are trapped in the upside down.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Who can be possessed or maybe possessed other people.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I feel like we're gonna at least get like
a demo organ version of Eddie.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
One hundred percent. And let me just pause right here
to do a couple of honorable mentions because I don't
want our list to be too thirsty. I just we
have to have some containedness. So I'm gonna also, uh,
Steve in the ice cream suit, what was half? It
was crazy? Shnany I was like, this is the most
adorable like moment if I can borrow a for as
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from two thousand and eight, just really cute moment. I
also think when we found out Vecna was weirdly hot,
when we were like, Jamie Campbell Bauer is playing Vecna,
what's under that makeup? For real? Truly a moment for us.
And then I would also finally just end sorry to
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be all white men in this space, but Sean Aston
out here representing for the big guys. We love him.
He's such a game. When we talk about our golden
hearted Teddy bears, none better, none better than a man
who laid down his life for his friends. We love
Bob Nuby and see, I just wanted to sneak a
couple of honorable mentions of some of my favorites. Oh,
(17:48):
I dude, in this show.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, there's so many there's so many great things
and stranger things. I mean, just my fav I do
think that when they introduced Max in season two, they
really did expand the old of Eleven and having the
idea of its starting off with jealousy but then actually
ending off is like a friendship and the evolution of
that friendship and allowing Eleven to have a female friend
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in the way that kind of evolves in season three
and season four. I think that's actually like a really
powerful good choice they made, even though it's not necessarily
like the again, like it's is that like the most
thing most people are gonna remember at the end.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Nobody was absolutely not an essential choice necessary so that
we don't hate the show, because honestly, because the only
other option that is to make them enemies or to
have no other girls on the show. You know, we
have the little Sisters and they're fun, but let's be honest,
they haven't had much of an arc. You know, there's
not a lot for them to do. Even our girl
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Erica Sinclair played by Prior Ferguson, who I think is
like an incredibly talented actor.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They're so good together. Two, they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They're so funny. I really hope Ericauld it's more to
do in the coming season two. But yeah, okay, we
have one final place. I think we should choose it
together for our top five. What do we think is ahead?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Is it just the first episode?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like I feel like if the I feel like if
the pilot didn't hook people so much, Like we know,
a lot of shows on Netflix don't get past people
pressing play on the first episode. So I do think
when I think of Stranger Things, and I think of
eleven with her little shaved head and her little you know,
hospital outfit, which, by the way, we should probably put
in there is like one of the most influential Halloween
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costumes of all time that had every the world in
a choke hold for like five years.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
If we did see so many Elevens early on, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, so so, like I wonder if it is just
the first episode. Joelle pitched me your final spot in
our top five.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Okay, and hear me out. We're so feminist. I love
our No. One else will come up with the women
some hot eyes. Anyway, Uh my pitch is the death
of Barb because to me, the internet discourse was so
we're talking like Twitter's booming in twenty sixteen, it's fabulous.
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We truly were not appreciative of what we had at
the time, and Barb's death like killing off the ugly
friend off like annoying, frustrating, the lack of care consideration
most of the characters had for her afterwards, like it
really was a point, and then the fact that we
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get barely like they kind of get justice for Barb
in season two, but it's ish, is it?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And I don't know, Yeah, I think you win.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I actually think you could argue that the death of
Bob is the most culturally impactful thing for a Stranger
Things because actually, guess yes, who was at the Stranger
Things season five premiere Shannon Purser. It was Shannon Purson
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aka bab Bob, who was styled by the incredible Sophie Strauss,
who I love, who I feel I didn't pay this,
She's just amazing, and Sophie styled her as like Daddy Bob,
so it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Was incredible, hot black outfit. She looked incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm hoping that's because maybe we'll get Bob in the
upside down, or maybe we'll learn something more about Bob.
But if not, I do also feel like it launed
Shannon Purser's Korea, you know, Riverdale, specifically. Roberto Aguaya Sakasa
like wrote a character in for her. Like she has
become a legend in her own right kind of. You know,
it's like when, yeah, when John Travolta, you know, accidentally
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said Idina Menzel's name was Adele Desim. She said, in
a way, you know, it was kind of the best
that ever happened to because suddenly everyone knew who she was.
And even though they the Duffer brothers were wrong to
kill Bob, Shannon is now, you know, life of the party.
She was in Riverdale right till the very end. I
love to see her in Riverdale makes me so happy.
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Wish Upon really actually just crazy haunted wish Box Slash
a movie which I loved.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Sarah Burgess is.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
A loser, like she's she's doing the stuff. We need
to get her more roles. But yeah, I mean the
fact that she's still there nine years later.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's like they had to bring her back like she
was harm from Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Justice for Barb finally and wait, Eddie Munson, Justice for Bob.
Bob team up in the upside Down to save the kids.
It's two fan services, but I would love.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To see it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It's the final season. When are you gonna get to
service again? This is it?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The five of us? Yes, yeah, go for it. I
was gonna say the same thing as you.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
A great Okay, we have to go to break right now.
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presented us with so many great new talents. Some are
nipple babies, some were plucked from far Afield, some of
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them are older. Some of them are exquisitely talented in
some beautiful gowns. What do we think exactly the future
holds for the children. Let's start with our bright spots.
Let's Sadie sink to the front.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Please, I would say, Sadie sinc She's the only one
thus far that has been at the center of a
very successful Oscar winning film that we won't name because like,
why do we need to?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It wasn't the right to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But she is incredible. She's a fantastic actress.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I think she's really coming out of this as the
Christen's Seer Rob Pattinson type. She makes interesting choices, she's
extremely cool. Obviously we already touched on Shannon. Are other
iconic redhead from this series, Millie Bobby Brown. Look is
she gonna be out here winning an Oscar? Probably not far.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think she is a really fun action heroine, and.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I love for her that she now has her Netflix
kind of grandfather in contract where every Soften she gets
to make a really expensive movie where she is an
action star in it and hopefully makes a ton of money.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I love that for her. I would love to get
to see.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Her fronting, you know, an original sci fi franchise, something,
you know, a kin to a New Terminator, maybe outside
of the Netflix space that can be a bit pretty,
a bit more cinematic.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But I love that for her. I love that she
is now married.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
To John Boniov's son, and she has a kid, and
she has a farm. You know what, she saw it
for life and she should be because the show basically
ran for the first few seasons just simply off the
fact that people knew eleven, loved eleven, and that they
had kind of made a gene gray for a new generation.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So she deserves it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What about It was interesting because Finn wolf Pod, who
plays Mike, he felt like he was the front runner
to be the big franchisee you was the first one out.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Of the gates because he landed both it and Ghostbusters
at about the same time, maybe one right after the other.
And then Ghostbusters, Who What Where? Which is a magazine?
Fins in it talking about stranger things, and he's got
what the I'm no longer a young man, I'm a
man now haircut? He is if you were around for
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justin Timberlake, and he went from giant ramen noodle curls
to sexy, army buzz cut. You might know Finn had
quite the like swoosh of hair. He was giving somewhat
like the Emo boys in the early Yachts, but maybe
a little more refined.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And Night thirteen hot heart rob vibes too.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was curtains, but not curtains, indie band curtains.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You could poutily brush that hair out of your face
if you wanted to. It's got now it's gone, which
says to me that his team thinks he gonna be back.
He about to get another franchise or something. Give it
a minute. I'd be so interested to hear what the
girls his age, if he's like a heart throb for
them or not, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What I mean. I'm interested in that too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I do think that most of the Stranger Things kids
are pretty like cool and have like interesting unique tastes
and seem to have come out of the situation of
being a child star on the first really massive smash
like streaming and show from Netflix pretty well. And I
think he is making interesting choices in his own creative life.
He recently directed a movie called Hell of a Summer,
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which I thought was really fun, which is just.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like a slasher movie. He has taken kind of your
summer camp slasher.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Really great stuff, a great eye fun, and I think
like he should do more stuff like that, like Live.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It Up you did Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love those new Ghostbusters movies just because I love Ghostbusters.
But they're not necessarily you know, they're not your next
critical smash like go.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
For something different. We've seen it. We've seen our.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
First Riverdale actor wrongfully snubbed by the Oscars for his
incredible performance last year, and so there's a lot of
different things going on here where these TV stars can
translate into something bigger. But I feel like Finn needs
to make a few more like interesting indie choices on
(27:53):
his own. Yeah, and I'm excited to see where he
goes with it because also he's like really tall and
has funny delivery and is good at like physical body comedy,
but is also good at like being serious and emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So there's good stuff out there. I want to see
him get that great script.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
He's essentially a romantically at an extremely young age and
carry you know, like country between him and Millie Bobby
Brown is good, Like he can deliver on sort of
the emotional resonance of a scene to your point comedy,
which is notoriously difficult. You've got the bone structure and
the foundation to be a star, Finn, if you choose,
(28:29):
I'd be curious to see where that goes. Somebody else
who has the bone structure to be a star? My
a Hawk. We mentioned there would be a Neffo baby
here and Listen, we don't hate neple babies. We just
want everyone to have a fair shot at being able
to create art and live off of it. But my
Hawk extremely talented instantly.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Also my knowledges is and who her parents are and
how it's helped her. Yeah, I think she's amazing. She
basically launched her whole music career off this, at least
in a much more mainstream success way.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I think she makes care choices.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
She's also been directing, She's been in movies with her dad.
She has been taking on really interesting weird roles, which
I think is a Neppo baby is basically your job
because you don't need the money, you don't.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Have the flexibility to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Do I understand why a young actress would have said
yes to being in season two of Stranger Things? Absolutely
like you were right to do that, Maya Hawk. I
am not judging you. What I'm saying now is you
have the Neppo Baby family security and your own security
and your own success and clown. So I'm excited to
see you pursuing more interesting, intriguing things. And also Maya
(29:38):
Hawk's recent appearance on Good Hang with Amy Poehler was
just delightful. I'm I love I love Mayaw.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Let's talk about the two who I think should have
strong careers, but we're not quite sure where that's gonna
end up. And that's Caleb McLaughlin who plays Lucas Sinclair
and get In Mata zero Is I'm saying that right, Yes,
got In Matazerio who play Doesn't Henderson and Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Both of these boys are adorable. I've loved them on
Stranger Things. I've loved them in projects outside of Stranger Things. Again,
these are kids who understand comedy and timing. They can
do they can do the drama. Lucas crying over Max.
Uh yeah, I'm in tears. Literally, anything Dustin does, I
will lay my body down. I just need Dustin to
(30:24):
be protected at all costs. I need Lucas and Max
to get out. Okay, I need my babies to be
all right. I also like them to be all right
in the real world. I think they have, uh the
capacity for such greatness.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Uh yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
What do you what would you like to see them
do when their care is like, what roles do you
think they should be taking out a finn? These would
be doing uh, some kind of like edgyar work, and
we're encouraging Maya to do the weird work. What kind
of work do these guys be looking for?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think like they're still young, you know. I think
Gates and he's done a really good job. He's become
like kind of a prankster. He had his own prank show.
I think like leaning into what people expec from Dustin.
Caleb was actually in a movie you can watch on
Peacock that is like it's a sports drama about Lebron
James's life and it was produced by Lebron James. And
(31:10):
he plays Drew Joyce, the third like one of the
three besties basically who grew up around Lebron. And yeah,
really really interesting stuff. I think he's making good choices.
I don't think he's getting as many options or calls.
And I think the same thing as said for Gayton,
who by the way, is also like physically visibly disabled.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And so like, I think there is an interesting thing here.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But Caleb's been booking those jobs and he's had some
really interesting ones.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Book of Clarence, The Deliverance.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
He's got a basketball comedy coming out from Sony that's
called goat.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And I mean that to me, I'm like, if you
can do an animated.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's pretty good and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Columbia, but it's animated by Sony Pictures Animation. So and
Caleb is the lead in that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So I'm really hoping. I'm hoping that that can be
a big launch.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
FIM, A nice little.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Animation is not really in your faith. And I will say,
stranger things. Whoever did these posts? Well, really, whoever styled
his hair jail? He has no hairline?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Say how is it the same in the two lost
two seasons too? Like they didn't fix it off the
last season. Everyone was telling you it didn't look good
last season.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Guys is so and so talented. He does not deserve
the disrespect of this awful hairline. H But I do
hope you know it's some like interesting live action roles.
I would like to see Caleb in like a Will
Smith ESK role. You know what I mean? IV is
the ability to be that level of charming that like
and let me please clarify early Will Smith role Allah
(32:47):
your independence days, Okay, Men in Black? Men in Black?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Caleb would be so great in like a charming buddy comedy.
But like in a genre space.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yes, definitely so good. I mean maybe someone should because
that would actually like.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Love Gates to go the sitcom route, not because I
don't think you have movie star potential, but just because
I think in the same way that like a Max
Greenfield could do film, but like you just resonates funny
on TV. He's so funny. Actually, that's my pitch. Gates
needs to get with Greenfield. Like if the two of
them come together, Uh, make it a father's son, a nephew, uncle,
(33:28):
a brothers with a very large age gap, some kind
of situation like that where they're playing off each other
and they get to be funny. I think the two
of them would have people in tears. But then again,
both of them have all of that heart and love
that resonates. You know, if you've seen Max and New Girl,
he plays Schmidt who's in love with Cec and you
(33:48):
get to see all of his shenanigans and it's so great,
And imagine like a Schmidt with a Dustin Schmidt.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And Dustin Yeah, that would be great. I love that
idea in Max.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I've done it. You're welcome, TV. You can have that
one for free. Just make it for me.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I just would watch it retract, it retract.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I need to be at least in the writer's room, please,
at least so we've talked about all of the children
who might go forth and conquer. Uh. Wait, Steve, Steve
up to you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I can do him. I can do him quickly. Steve
has actually been doing it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He it's to me no surprise, I think because of
the way that he managed to transform this role and
turn it into an ongoing role with this kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Bully to babysitter vibe, which is so great.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Uh. He has actually taken on some really interesting roles.
He was in this movie that I loved. I watched
it for nadists ended up not like they said, hey,
watch this movie, you can interview.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Him, and ended up I think like we didn't get
the interview. But it was called Spree. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
He's basically like a psycho spree killer in an uber
who is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Killing people live to get followers.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But then he is taken down by SNL ex cast
member Sasha's the Marta, who is so good and she's
so funny and she is a stand up.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
In the Hurt and Agatha, She's so good.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
She's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
In Agatha and I just thought this movie was really cool,
really unique. It's not your classic slasher, but it's also
kind of this idea of followers and fans.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's really strange. So he's been doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But I would say his biggest thing, if I'm not mistaken,
he's a pretty successful music artist now, and that has
been the real thing that he has been doing.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The stranger things. I know, he's really been living it up.
Like good for that man, Joe Aery.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I really yet, like, uh, Joe's kind of got
this the word I'm looking for. I can't figure it out.
But he's he's just naturally like I he felt like
a star coming on. I'll put it that way, you
know what I mean. And I don't mean the superstar
shut everything downwigh. I mean in the this man will
never stop working that he will always be hired. He
(35:59):
is so consistent good. It feels just like second nature
to him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Just makes sense.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, you kind of just want him in things.
There's a reliability and he's giving Uh who's do the please? Nick?
And New Girls? Sorry, probably New Girl references if you're
not a New Girl fan, but oh.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Not the world's most not the world's most beloved boy
next door.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Peter B. Parker, he sure is.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, he gives that kind of hate, that and liability
to him that you're like, yeah, I want.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
To cast him in your Stranger Things reunion sitcom that
you're obviously now pitching.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yes, it's coming together, but yeah, the world. Sorry, guys, sorry,
have you got enough of those? Do you need another one?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Dj O time, he's his that's his Instagram is his
music goes by d j O.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Sorry, guys. If it's just Joe or something, I'm not cool.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He's got two boy four million followers. I see him
doing a lot of shows. A lot of people I
know go to his shows, So I love that for him,
and I think he could also just keep doing cool stuff.
He he was in Fargo, he was really fun and
free guy. I'm just excited to see him do more.
I really do Recommencepree a lot. It's pretty out there.
If you don't like a scary kind of like murderous
(37:16):
horror movie, you might not enjoy it. But I thought
it was really interesting. Take I've been hearing there has
allegedly Okay, we don't wet there is allegedly a rumor
that he is playing Harry Osborne in Brand New Day
that came out in the summer. Allegedly that's what he's
(37:37):
working on. People didn't really felt about. I think it's fantastic, possible.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
People aren't sure, get sure, get rid? I telling you,
let me assure you. But you know, I actually let.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Me, he said, be assured.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
This is who you want because what he can do
so well, you've seen him with as babysitter, so he
could do this. Oh I'm so worried about you, Peter,
like you're my best friend. But also he can do
If I disappoint my dad, I won't exist as a
person and I'll be crushed. And so now I will
make the choice I know is wrong because I just
(38:11):
he is gonna nail that. I really hope it's true.
Uh yeah, joke, right, Joe, Come.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
On, But yes, this was so fun. Thanks for joining
us for our.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Little water cooler chat about the history of Strange Things
and some of our favorite moments.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Uh yeah. The new series is coming out soon.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Guys, Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Episode drops Thanksgiving weekend, and the rest will be released
in three volumes, I believe, so.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Check out the recap that Rosie and Jason do. It's
coming out next week. It's really, really funny, it's full.
If you haven't seen it, you're gonna feel so caught up.
You won't need to watch twenty seven thousand hours of
television in order to enjoy it. This season, final season.
But yeah, that's our show, guys, amazing, Thank you so
much for listening, and we'll see guys soon. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
X ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young and
Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our
executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
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Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Today's episode con taste light spoilers for Stranger Things season
one to three, but more so, it's an exploration of
the impact of Stranger Things and Netflix on streaming.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello. My name is Rosie Night and I'm Joan Monique.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where
we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and
pop culture. We are here at iHeart Podcast, where we'll
be bringing you three episodes a week plus news news.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Do I sound like a Grumlin today?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I do that too? Sometimes something it's got to be.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's the plus plus news. I love it. Oh gosh, guys,
we have such an exciting show for you today. We
are going to be talking about the way Stranger Things
has impacted the culture. All Right, maybe you weren't there,
maybe you don't remember. Possibly we're doing lots of drugs
between now and then. You know, we don't know your life,
(01:11):
but we want to revisit it, and honestly, good for you. Okay,
you're surviving. We get it. So we had to talk
about the history. We're gonna talk a little bit about
the five big moments that shaped and changed us, and
then we're gonna talk about the future of the precious
babies who were given to us unto us through this show.
(01:31):
So yeah, here we go. First, let's talk about the
history now. Before we started recording Rosie, we were talking
about our different experiences coming into Stranger Things. Yes, what
was yours in England? Because it was different.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, Netflix didn't really exist in the same way in England.
Netflix did not have the massive known quantity effect of
being a DVD by male company, though I will say
I do if I'm not mistaken, I do believe there may.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Have been a small.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Version of that in the UK, but we were generally
not able to watch Netflix until I would say, like
the early early zeros, Like I'm actually, wow, guys, I'm
learning so much about Netflix right now and my own
memory of my life because actually Netflix was not.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Launched in the UK until.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like twenty twelve, so I was actually, yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Wow, that was crazy wow.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So yeah, love love that, And that was like six
years after Netflix had already sent out like a billion
DVDs or something, you know, like they were so established,
but we didn't really know what they were. But yeah,
twenty twelve was that big thing. And then you know,
a year later you get first Netflix original, so for
(03:01):
us and for its perception in Europe, it comes as
a streaming service boom, and then you get House of
Cards and then you get Stranger Things. So I think
for me, like I was not a big Stranger I mean,
I wasn't a big House of Cards head at that time.
So I think for me, I really have such a
distinct memory of like Netflix Stranger Things. The Stranger Thing
(03:23):
logo is red, the Netflix logo is red, Like they're
so intertwined for me, and like I think, I mean,
we were just watching Stranger Things on Netflix on my
friend's computer, you know, in her house, and yeah, I
just I really remember it. It felt so definitive to me
that Stranger Things in Netflix were were kind of forever
connected in my cultural mind. How was it for you,
(03:43):
because obviously Netflix was like established in the late nineties, right.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, so Netflix is birthed in ninety seven. I would
say it catches on by like oh four, Like that's
my recollection. My recollection is uh and O four. I'm
in high school. I remember my dad signing up and
being like, there's this DVD delivery service that's really dope.
(04:08):
We should check it. Out. We have access to all
these DVDs of movies we have never seen. That's great.
What I remember when I got to college, it was
sort of a revelation because before Netflix, all you have
our cable or your local antenna, but antenna stopped being
produced on TVs, and also cable became completely outpriced for
(04:28):
like a college like it was, there was no winning.
And then here comes Netflix, and if I remember correctly,
we played like five ninety nine for Netflix. Maybe you
know that's easy to split between like four roommates in
a two bedroom and now we have TV magically and
we love it. And back then Netflix is mostly movies,
(04:49):
so they don't really they're not into their TV getting
bad yet. So that's how I remember sort of coming
into Netflix now twenty six teams.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Why I thought Stranger Things came out earlier than twenty sixteen,
but it's premiere to Age July fifteenth, twenty sixteen. So
now I'm firmly established in Los Angeles. I've moved on
from Chicago, and from what I can remember of those
early days of Stranger Things, I remember both that we
were coming toward maybe the apex of the eighties renaissance
(05:22):
at this point, right and stranger things. For some was
like this too on the nose, we hate it? Why
is it so eighties and in your face annoying? I
think the rest of the world was like, this is awesome,
Like it's giving nostalgia fuel. The D and D Nerds
were like, we are seen and heard and respected. The
(05:46):
lore taken so seriously and with such great vibrato. And
I think what really moved the needle for me was like,
whenever you cast as many children, it's almost impossible to
get solid performances out of all of them, and there's
not really a weak acting link in the bunch. Yeah,
you're able to believe and follow these kids. Their adventures
(06:10):
feel emotionally grounded and yet still accessible to young children.
They can enjoy it as an old person, like it's
really a four quadrant series. You want to watch it
with everybody, from the bicycle chase scenes to the demogorgans
to just like the basement, like playing in like that whole,
Like if you I hung out in a lot of
(06:31):
basements going. I grew up in the Midwest Tornado alley,
so we were always in a basement. Uh, and I
just like the nostalgia feels all of it was really hitting,
especially early on. What we didn't know was that there
would be ages, sometimes centuries, it would feel like, between seasons,
and that's had a real impact on the series. How
(06:54):
do you think the series has been sort of impacted
both are exs on how long between seasons and our
ability to carry over from season to season and continue
on with the show.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I would definitely say that I think most of
us who cover TV, you know, this show was released the.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Same year that I moved out to America.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Actually, wow, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that now. It's
just kind of crazy, and I just have such a
distinct memory of like it was such a nostalgic Yeah, Like,
we definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Could tell it was very tropy.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
We were like noticing all the you know, homages, let's
put them in comment like quote marks, because there's a
lot of ripping off going on too. But like, but
you know, it immersed us. It was something fun, It
was something that felt really unique to what was coming
out on TV at the time. It felt very streaming,
and I think that ironically has kind of still been
(07:52):
shaping what we expect from these companies. And the companies
have used that as a way to change the format,
the shape, the amount of episodes. Stranger Things is an
incredible TV show, but you know, over nine seasons it
will you know, barely have if you can believe it,
(08:13):
actually less than fifty episodes. There will only be forty
two episodes of Stranger Things by the time, Wow, see
the whole series comes to an end. And that is
extremely different to what we have seen in the past.
As we know, like shows you'd like Riverdale was one
of the last shows we'll probably ever get that would
(08:34):
get a twenty two to twenty five episode run, and.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It was some of the craziest stuff you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And that was coming out every single year with Stranger
Things because it was a massive success. It was a
very different kind of TV show. It wasn't a one
camera drama show. It wasn't a prestige style TV show.
It was a huge genre show with a massive budget
and special effects. Suddenly they had to make a follow up,
and I think I think that because they were so
(09:01):
new in the game, the follow up took a longer time,
and then that started to establish. I mean, when this
show first came out, I had just left working in
a comic bookshop. That was my main career. By the
time season three came out, I was a professional journalist
who was able to visit the set of season three
in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So just that that is a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was a long time that was not a short
period of time. But like that set up a new
expectation from these shows. It also set up something which
I think is one of the biggest impacts of this show,
you know, not particularly positive one, but definitely a true one,
which is the way that the series utilized branding and
(09:45):
I am assuming many many product placement deals to finance itself.
Means that Stranger Things was able to use brands as
nostalgia and was able to then be selling Stranger Things
branded Eggos, Stranger Things branded seventies or eighties cover KitKat, like,
(10:06):
there were so many different things. And obviously that has
gone way beyond that now to the point where now
you have you know, Stranger Things X Teenage Mutant Ninja, Turtles,
action figures, and you have Demo Gordon plushes and Target
and stuff. So it ended up becoming a brand in
of itself, but a lot of that, Yeah, no, at
the nostalgia of other brands, and then they use that
(10:28):
to turn themselves into a sellable nostalgia brand. And now,
because it's taken nine years, there are kids who feel
nostalgic about season one.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Mind blowing bananas. I think there's no better example of
that than D and D. And what we've seen coming
out like watching these kids play D and D ignited
a desire to learn about D and D in me.
I mean genuinely went to my friend's place and was like,
how come we're not playing DND? Does that make sense
to you? Because we like all Oh absolutely, we love building,
(11:00):
we love storytelling, we love creating a character. Ask me
how long I spend creating characters and video games I've
never finished. I love crafting. And I think there's the
reason D and D is where it's at today is
because of what happened with Stranger Things. So yeah, the
impact absolutely cannot be denied. We're gonna go to break
(11:20):
real quick, and when we come back, we're gonna talk
about the five most impactful moments from Stranger Things to
stay and we're back. Oh my god, he recapping that
(11:46):
show is so weird. I've been revisiting it as we
prepare you and Jason have a lovely season four recap
coming up. I've been trying to refamiliarize myself with the
show and the number of iconic moments, and we should
say it was interesting earlier you were talking about the
time between shows. So like season one premier July fifteenth,
(12:06):
twenty sixteen, then October twenty seventeen we get season two.
It is then two years later in twenty nineteen, again
back in July we get season three. Season four comes
out May twenty seventh, twenty twenty two. So there will
be four years and.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Some yeah, difference then, yeah, and then four years now.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's uh, it's daunting. Yeah, three years. I I what
is math? Guys, please don't judge me. I'm sort of
blown away by the moments. I think, you know, running
up that hill is one that everyone kind of remembers.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I actually think for me, I would say that's probably
the defining scene of the show now, just culturally, I
think I've I was talking to Jason, I was like, basically,
here is what you see in the garden of every
fancy person in La They have a floating max. They
still do, and it's an incredible thing. It looks incredible
(13:07):
and that is like decorations.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, they have them all over.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And they're so great, and I think that to me
is taken over from say the Four Bikes, and in
its own way, it's actually pretty cool because it is
more unique than necessarily the four Bikes, which was very
much homage to your etis and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I want to shout out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's something that I know people have been skipping in
their rewatches.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I know you've been doing this and that is acceptable,
but I have been in there arguing the goodness of
In season three, there was a very maligned episode where
Eleven goes to Chicago and she goes and it is
essentially an adventure where she ends up finding out that
(13:58):
she has a lost sisters that it's episode seven, and
she finds Carli, who is number eight, and it is
legitimately fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's basically a really brilliant teen X Men episode, and
at the time people.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Just did not get it, and you know why, because
they don't like a story that's just about Eleven. It
has to be in the context of the men in
her life. It has to be Hopper, it has to.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Be the boys.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But here she gets to go have her own existence,
find her sister, have this found family kind of realization
that then inspires her to allow her to save Hawkins
and her friends because she understands the importance of friends,
She understands the importance of found family.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I thought it was super cool. It's really punky everyone.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
When it came out. Oh, I think the Lost Sister
goes in the top five because I think it's we
get a story that's actually just about eleven. It's not
about eleven in Henry Creole, It's not about eleven and
her shit head dad. It's not about eleven ship that
she had second dad. Hot, but it's not about.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's about eleven and Mike.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's just about it's not about eleven relationship.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I obnoxious, if not very honest about what if you
find a romantic interest at that age? So obnoxious mostly
sometimes okay, can sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So those are so far we've got running up that
hell and then we've got I'm doing the Lost Sister.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
What's your third My sister is so bold, Rosie so bold, dude.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I know I'm gonna put it in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Then I'm gonna tell everyone you better be watching it, Guys,
I'm gonna make an infographic and put it on Instagram
and saying.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wow, I should threaten you. Uh, then let me also
threaten you with a good time. His name is Joseph Quinn.
In this show, he plays Eddie Monthson, Bass got long hair,
and he shreds on guitar, and he's friends with all
of the losers. You'd want to be his best friend.
After watching this show, good kid labeled bad misunderstood because
(15:56):
he wants to be a punk in the eighties and
people don't get it. But he's actually the most golden
hearted teddy bear. Joseph Quinn jumping in made me care again. Yeah,
I think I'm back.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Most of our extra vision coverage of season four at
the time when it came out was us talking about
the impact of Eddie Munson. There has been a lot
of talk about whether or not he's coming back. They
denied that he is coming back this season, but I
feel like he at least we at least have to
get a vision of him, especially now we understand the
way that Vecna is connected to the upside Down and
(16:33):
the way that it seems like there are other people
who are trapped in the upside down.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Who can be possessed or maybe possessed other people.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I feel like we're gonna at least get like
a demo organ version of Eddie.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
One hundred percent. And let me just pause right here
to do a couple of honorable mentions because I don't
want our list to be too thirsty. I just we
have to have some containedness. So I'm gonna also, uh,
Steve in the ice cream suit, what was half? It
was crazy? Shnany I was like, this is the most
adorable like moment if I can borrow a for as
(17:05):
from two thousand and eight, just really cute moment. I
also think when we found out Vecna was weirdly hot,
when we were like, Jamie Campbell Bauer is playing Vecna,
what's under that makeup? For real? Truly a moment for us.
And then I would also finally just end sorry to
(17:26):
be all white men in this space, but Sean Aston
out here representing for the big guys. We love him.
He's such a game. When we talk about our golden
hearted Teddy bears, none better, none better than a man
who laid down his life for his friends. We love
Bob Nuby and see, I just wanted to sneak a
couple of honorable mentions of some of my favorites. Oh,
(17:48):
I dude, in this show.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, there's so many there's so many great things
and stranger things. I mean, just my fav I do
think that when they introduced Max in season two, they
really did expand the old of Eleven and having the
idea of its starting off with jealousy but then actually
ending off is like a friendship and the evolution of
that friendship and allowing Eleven to have a female friend
(18:11):
in the way that kind of evolves in season three
and season four. I think that's actually like a really
powerful good choice they made, even though it's not necessarily
like the again, like it's is that like the most
thing most people are gonna remember at the end.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Nobody was absolutely not an essential choice necessary so that
we don't hate the show, because honestly, because the only
other option that is to make them enemies or to
have no other girls on the show. You know, we
have the little Sisters and they're fun, but let's be honest,
they haven't had much of an arc. You know, there's
not a lot for them to do. Even our girl
(18:50):
Erica Sinclair played by Prior Ferguson, who I think is
like an incredibly talented actor.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They're so good together. Two, they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They're so funny. I really hope Ericauld it's more to
do in the coming season two. But yeah, okay, we
have one final place. I think we should choose it
together for our top five. What do we think is ahead?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Is it just the first episode?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like I feel like if the I feel like if
the pilot didn't hook people so much, Like we know,
a lot of shows on Netflix don't get past people
pressing play on the first episode. So I do think
when I think of Stranger Things, and I think of
eleven with her little shaved head and her little you know,
hospital outfit, which, by the way, we should probably put
in there is like one of the most influential Halloween
(19:39):
costumes of all time that had every the world in
a choke hold for like five years.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
If we did see so many Elevens early on, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, so so, like I wonder if it is just
the first episode. Joelle pitched me your final spot in
our top five.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Okay, and hear me out. We're so feminist. I love
our No. One else will come up with the women
some hot eyes. Anyway, Uh my pitch is the death
of Barb because to me, the internet discourse was so
we're talking like Twitter's booming in twenty sixteen, it's fabulous.
(20:16):
We truly were not appreciative of what we had at
the time, and Barb's death like killing off the ugly
friend off like annoying, frustrating, the lack of care consideration
most of the characters had for her afterwards, like it
really was a point, and then the fact that we
(20:37):
get barely like they kind of get justice for Barb
in season two, but it's ish, is it?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And I don't know, Yeah, I think you win.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I actually think you could argue that the death of
Bob is the most culturally impactful thing for a Stranger
Things because actually, guess yes, who was at the Stranger
Things season five premiere Shannon Purser. It was Shannon Purson
(21:10):
aka bab Bob, who was styled by the incredible Sophie Strauss,
who I love, who I feel I didn't pay this,
She's just amazing, and Sophie styled her as like Daddy Bob,
so it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Was incredible, hot black outfit. She looked incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm hoping that's because maybe we'll get Bob in the
upside down, or maybe we'll learn something more about Bob.
But if not, I do also feel like it launed
Shannon Purser's Korea, you know, Riverdale, specifically. Roberto Aguaya Sakasa
like wrote a character in for her. Like she has
become a legend in her own right kind of. You know,
it's like when, yeah, when John Travolta, you know, accidentally
(21:53):
said Idina Menzel's name was Adele Desim. She said, in
a way, you know, it was kind of the best
that ever happened to because suddenly everyone knew who she was.
And even though they the Duffer brothers were wrong to
kill Bob, Shannon is now, you know, life of the party.
She was in Riverdale right till the very end. I
love to see her in Riverdale makes me so happy.
(22:15):
Wish Upon really actually just crazy haunted wish Box Slash
a movie which I loved.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Sarah Burgess is.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
A loser, like she's she's doing the stuff. We need
to get her more roles. But yeah, I mean the
fact that she's still there nine years later.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's like they had to bring her back like she
was harm from Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Justice for Barb finally and wait, Eddie Munson, Justice for Bob.
Bob team up in the upside Down to save the kids.
It's two fan services, but I would love.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To see it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It's the final season. When are you gonna get to
service again? This is it?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The five of us? Yes, yeah, go for it. I
was gonna say the same thing as you.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
A great Okay, we have to go to break right now.
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presented us with so many great new talents. Some are
nipple babies, some were plucked from far Afield, some of
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them are older. Some of them are exquisitely talented in
some beautiful gowns. What do we think exactly the future
holds for the children. Let's start with our bright spots.
Let's Sadie sink to the front.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Please, I would say, Sadie sinc She's the only one
thus far that has been at the center of a
very successful Oscar winning film that we won't name because like,
why do we need to?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It wasn't the right to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But she is incredible. She's a fantastic actress.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I think she's really coming out of this as the
Christen's Seer Rob Pattinson type. She makes interesting choices, she's
extremely cool. Obviously we already touched on Shannon. Are other
iconic redhead from this series, Millie Bobby Brown. Look is
she gonna be out here winning an Oscar? Probably not far.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think she is a really fun action heroine, and.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I love for her that she now has her Netflix
kind of grandfather in contract where every Soften she gets
to make a really expensive movie where she is an
action star in it and hopefully makes a ton of money.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I love that for her. I would love to get
to see.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Her fronting, you know, an original sci fi franchise, something,
you know, a kin to a New Terminator, maybe outside
of the Netflix space that can be a bit pretty,
a bit more cinematic.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But I love that for her. I love that she
is now married.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
To John Boniov's son, and she has a kid, and
she has a farm. You know what, she saw it
for life and she should be because the show basically
ran for the first few seasons just simply off the
fact that people knew eleven, loved eleven, and that they
had kind of made a gene gray for a new generation.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So she deserves it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What about It was interesting because Finn wolf Pod, who
plays Mike, he felt like he was the front runner
to be the big franchisee you was the first one out.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Of the gates because he landed both it and Ghostbusters
at about the same time, maybe one right after the other.
And then Ghostbusters, Who What Where? Which is a magazine?
Fins in it talking about stranger things, and he's got
what the I'm no longer a young man, I'm a
man now haircut? He is if you were around for
(25:59):
justin Timberlake, and he went from giant ramen noodle curls
to sexy, army buzz cut. You might know Finn had
quite the like swoosh of hair. He was giving somewhat
like the Emo boys in the early Yachts, but maybe
a little more refined.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And Night thirteen hot heart rob vibes too.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was curtains, but not curtains, indie band curtains.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You could poutily brush that hair out of your face
if you wanted to. It's got now it's gone, which
says to me that his team thinks he gonna be back.
He about to get another franchise or something. Give it
a minute. I'd be so interested to hear what the
girls his age, if he's like a heart throb for
them or not, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What I mean. I'm interested in that too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I do think that most of the Stranger Things kids
are pretty like cool and have like interesting unique tastes
and seem to have come out of the situation of
being a child star on the first really massive smash
like streaming and show from Netflix pretty well. And I
think he is making interesting choices in his own creative life.
He recently directed a movie called Hell of a Summer,
(27:09):
which I thought was really fun, which is just.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like a slasher movie. He has taken kind of your
summer camp slasher.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Really great stuff, a great eye fun, and I think
like he should do more stuff like that, like Live.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It Up you did Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love those new Ghostbusters movies just because I love Ghostbusters.
But they're not necessarily you know, they're not your next
critical smash like go.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
For something different. We've seen it. We've seen our.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
First Riverdale actor wrongfully snubbed by the Oscars for his
incredible performance last year, and so there's a lot of
different things going on here where these TV stars can
translate into something bigger. But I feel like Finn needs
to make a few more like interesting indie choices on
(27:53):
his own. Yeah, and I'm excited to see where he
goes with it because also he's like really tall and
has funny delivery and is good at like physical body comedy,
but is also good at like being serious and emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So there's good stuff out there. I want to see
him get that great script.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
He's essentially a romantically at an extremely young age and
carry you know, like country between him and Millie Bobby
Brown is good, Like he can deliver on sort of
the emotional resonance of a scene to your point comedy,
which is notoriously difficult. You've got the bone structure and
the foundation to be a star, Finn, if you choose,
(28:29):
I'd be curious to see where that goes. Somebody else
who has the bone structure to be a star? My
a Hawk. We mentioned there would be a Neffo baby
here and Listen, we don't hate neple babies. We just
want everyone to have a fair shot at being able
to create art and live off of it. But my
Hawk extremely talented instantly.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Also my knowledges is and who her parents are and
how it's helped her. Yeah, I think she's amazing. She
basically launched her whole music career off this, at least
in a much more mainstream success way.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I think she makes care choices.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
She's also been directing, She's been in movies with her dad.
She has been taking on really interesting weird roles, which
I think is a Neppo baby is basically your job
because you don't need the money, you don't.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Have the flexibility to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Do I understand why a young actress would have said
yes to being in season two of Stranger Things? Absolutely
like you were right to do that, Maya Hawk. I
am not judging you. What I'm saying now is you
have the Neppo Baby family security and your own security
and your own success and clown. So I'm excited to
see you pursuing more interesting, intriguing things. And also Maya
(29:38):
Hawk's recent appearance on Good Hang with Amy Poehler was
just delightful. I'm I love I love Mayaw.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Let's talk about the two who I think should have
strong careers, but we're not quite sure where that's gonna
end up. And that's Caleb McLaughlin who plays Lucas Sinclair
and get In Mata zero Is I'm saying that right, Yes,
got In Matazerio who play Doesn't Henderson and Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Both of these boys are adorable. I've loved them on
Stranger Things. I've loved them in projects outside of Stranger Things. Again,
these are kids who understand comedy and timing. They can
do they can do the drama. Lucas crying over Max.
Uh yeah, I'm in tears. Literally, anything Dustin does, I
will lay my body down. I just need Dustin to
(30:24):
be protected at all costs. I need Lucas and Max
to get out. Okay, I need my babies to be
all right. I also like them to be all right
in the real world. I think they have, uh the
capacity for such greatness.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Uh yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
What do you what would you like to see them
do when their care is like, what roles do you
think they should be taking out a finn? These would
be doing uh, some kind of like edgyar work, and
we're encouraging Maya to do the weird work. What kind
of work do these guys be looking for?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think like they're still young, you know. I think
Gates and he's done a really good job. He's become
like kind of a prankster. He had his own prank show.
I think like leaning into what people expec from Dustin.
Caleb was actually in a movie you can watch on
Peacock that is like it's a sports drama about Lebron
James's life and it was produced by Lebron James. And
(31:10):
he plays Drew Joyce, the third like one of the
three besties basically who grew up around Lebron. And yeah,
really really interesting stuff. I think he's making good choices.
I don't think he's getting as many options or calls.
And I think the same thing as said for Gayton,
who by the way, is also like physically visibly disabled.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And so like, I think there is an interesting thing here.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But Caleb's been booking those jobs and he's had some
really interesting ones.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Book of Clarence, The Deliverance.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
He's got a basketball comedy coming out from Sony that's
called goat.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And I mean that to me, I'm like, if you
can do an animated.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's pretty good and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Columbia, but it's animated by Sony Pictures Animation. So and
Caleb is the lead in that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So I'm really hoping. I'm hoping that that can be
a big launch.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
FIM, A nice little.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Animation is not really in your faith. And I will say,
stranger things. Whoever did these posts? Well, really, whoever styled
his hair jail? He has no hairline?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Say how is it the same in the two lost
two seasons too? Like they didn't fix it off the
last season. Everyone was telling you it didn't look good
last season.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Guys is so and so talented. He does not deserve
the disrespect of this awful hairline. H But I do
hope you know it's some like interesting live action roles.
I would like to see Caleb in like a Will
Smith ESK role. You know what I mean? IV is
the ability to be that level of charming that like
and let me please clarify early Will Smith role Allah
(32:47):
your independence days, Okay, Men in Black? Men in Black?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Caleb would be so great in like a charming buddy comedy.
But like in a genre space.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yes, definitely so good. I mean maybe someone should because
that would actually like.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Love Gates to go the sitcom route, not because I
don't think you have movie star potential, but just because
I think in the same way that like a Max
Greenfield could do film, but like you just resonates funny
on TV. He's so funny. Actually, that's my pitch. Gates
needs to get with Greenfield. Like if the two of
them come together, Uh, make it a father's son, a nephew, uncle,
(33:28):
a brothers with a very large age gap, some kind
of situation like that where they're playing off each other
and they get to be funny. I think the two
of them would have people in tears. But then again,
both of them have all of that heart and love
that resonates. You know, if you've seen Max and New Girl,
he plays Schmidt who's in love with Cec and you
(33:48):
get to see all of his shenanigans and it's so great,
And imagine like a Schmidt with a Dustin Schmidt.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And Dustin Yeah, that would be great. I love that
idea in Max.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I've done it. You're welcome, TV. You can have that
one for free. Just make it for me.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I just would watch it retract, it retract.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I need to be at least in the writer's room, please,
at least so we've talked about all of the children
who might go forth and conquer. Uh. Wait, Steve, Steve
up to you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I can do him. I can do him quickly. Steve
has actually been doing it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He it's to me no surprise, I think because of
the way that he managed to transform this role and
turn it into an ongoing role with this kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Bully to babysitter vibe, which is so great.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Uh. He has actually taken on some really interesting roles.
He was in this movie that I loved. I watched
it for nadists ended up not like they said, hey,
watch this movie, you can interview.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Him, and ended up I think like we didn't get
the interview. But it was called Spree. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
He's basically like a psycho spree killer in an uber
who is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Killing people live to get followers.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But then he is taken down by SNL ex cast
member Sasha's the Marta, who is so good and she's
so funny and she is a stand up.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
In the Hurt and Agatha, She's so good.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
She's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
In Agatha and I just thought this movie was really cool,
really unique. It's not your classic slasher, but it's also
kind of this idea of followers and fans.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's really strange. So he's been doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
But I would say his biggest thing, if I'm not mistaken,
he's a pretty successful music artist now, and that has
been the real thing that he has been doing.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The stranger things. I know, he's really been living it up.
Like good for that man, Joe Aery.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I really yet, like, uh, Joe's kind of got
this the word I'm looking for. I can't figure it out.
But he's he's just naturally like I he felt like
a star coming on. I'll put it that way, you
know what I mean. And I don't mean the superstar
shut everything downwigh. I mean in the this man will
never stop working that he will always be hired. He
(35:59):
is so consistent good. It feels just like second nature
to him.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Just makes sense.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, you kind of just want him in things.
There's a reliability and he's giving Uh who's do the please? Nick?
And New Girls? Sorry, probably New Girl references if you're
not a New Girl fan, but oh.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Not the world's most not the world's most beloved boy
next door.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Peter B. Parker, he sure is.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, he gives that kind of hate, that and liability
to him that you're like, yeah, I want.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
To cast him in your Stranger Things reunion sitcom that
you're obviously now pitching.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yes, it's coming together, but yeah, the world. Sorry, guys, sorry,
have you got enough of those? Do you need another one?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Dj O time, he's his that's his Instagram is his
music goes by d j O.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Sorry, guys. If it's just Joe or something, I'm not cool.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
He's got two boy four million followers. I see him
doing a lot of shows. A lot of people I
know go to his shows, So I love that for him,
and I think he could also just keep doing cool stuff.
He he was in Fargo, he was really fun and
free guy. I'm just excited to see him do more.
I really do Recommencepree a lot. It's pretty out there.
If you don't like a scary kind of like murderous
(37:16):
horror movie, you might not enjoy it. But I thought
it was really interesting. Take I've been hearing there has
allegedly Okay, we don't wet there is allegedly a rumor
that he is playing Harry Osborne in Brand New Day
that came out in the summer. Allegedly that's what he's
(37:37):
working on. People didn't really felt about. I think it's fantastic, possible.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
People aren't sure, get sure, get rid? I telling you,
let me assure you. But you know, I actually let.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Me, he said, be assured.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
This is who you want because what he can do
so well, you've seen him with as babysitter, so he
could do this. Oh I'm so worried about you, Peter,
like you're my best friend. But also he can do
If I disappoint my dad, I won't exist as a
person and I'll be crushed. And so now I will
make the choice I know is wrong because I just
(38:11):
he is gonna nail that. I really hope it's true.
Uh yeah, joke, right, Joe, Come.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
On, But yes, this was so fun. Thanks for joining
us for our.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Little water cooler chat about the history of Strange Things
and some of our favorite moments.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Uh yeah. The new series is coming out soon.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Guys, Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Episode drops Thanksgiving weekend, and the rest will be released
in three volumes, I believe, so.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Check out the recap that Rosie and Jason do. It's
coming out next week. It's really, really funny, it's full.
If you haven't seen it, you're gonna feel so caught up.
You won't need to watch twenty seven thousand hours of
television in order to enjoy it. This season, final season.
But yeah, that's our show, guys, amazing, Thank you so
much for listening, and we'll see guys soon. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.