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Because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael O'Dell. Chordan said, shah, you sleepyhead. Certy bird
gets the worm, sleepy squirrel, this is the nut. Seven
minutes after the hour, Welcome to Tuesday, February, the eighteenth
year of our Lord, twenty twenty five on the air
and streaming live on your iHeart app. I am Michael

(00:36):
del Journer. At least eighteen people injured after a Delta
Airlines flight land it on its back another one of
these seats eighty see crjays that I can tell you.
You know the difference between me and a lot of
talk show hosts. A lot of people would come on

(00:57):
the air and talk about things that happen not me. No,
like today, our journey of discovery is over COVID five
years later. Oh so I decided to show up today
at the show with COVID. Well better to talk to
you about COVID and somebody suffering from COVID. And you
don't know this, but I I have a little off

(01:17):
air fetish what I followed plane crash investigations. Okay, there
are like three online that are really really good, and
I have seen what happened here, happened before. So they're
coming in with a seventy mile an hour wind, now,
you know, I don't know, you know, I'd have been

(01:37):
more like these are a seventy mile in our crossments
year runway. Yeah, that's right, seventy mile an hour. We're
gonna go ahead and go to Montreal. That's what I
would have done to find another destination to set this
bird down. But when you have a seventy mile an
hour win, you come in sideways. That's how you come in.
And so I have seen this many I cannot believe
we don't have footage yet. You would think it would surface.

(01:59):
By the way, I would like to interrupt the entire
show and say, how cool are Canadians in a plane crash?
These people get off the plane like it, you know,
like they land on their head. All the time. They
were like bye bye, bye bye, bye bye. They're just
kind of going through their luggage or walking off casually.
Maybe they turned back and took a picture selfie. Can
you imagine I would have been like, you just saw

(02:20):
my jaws, my knees. They don't even look cold. They
just kind of get out bye bye, oh bye bye. Yeah,
they were probably upset. You just go ahead and drag
us right on our back all the way to the terminal.
We did T shirts, but I mean they were I mean,
weren't they really cool? Coming out? I can say that
this eighteen inch can you believe? Because this looks like
the movie Flight with Denzel Washington. What I thought, Yeah,

(02:42):
we're going to roll in black Box, say goodbye to
your son. We're going to roll here we go stays
trapped in, Stay strapped in. I can be the home movie.
But what happens is, so you're coming in literally sideways
because the wind is going to push you, so you're
actually fake, and then right at the last second, you
kind of turn and I think it flipped. I think,

(03:05):
I know, I think I've seen what happened. Happened remarkably,
but we don't have footage of this. But here's the
good new it's not a single death, eighteen injured. It
was from Minneapolis Saint Paul to Toronto. There were eighty
people on board, seventy six passengers, four crew flipped on
landing and you've seen the footage from here. That's the
second of these types of crashes that we've seen involving

(03:29):
this particular aircraft. This one ultimately adulta flight by way
of other carrier. I mentioned the US is holding talks
with Russia over the ending of the war. Yesterday, of course,
the big debate was, you know, you ought to have
europe at the table. The European leadership should have a say.
After all, whatever you negotiate is going to be what

(03:51):
they're going to live with, and it's reasonable and I
would think, you know, the the impression is that the
US negotiators are spending no time discussing anything with Europeans.
But I will say this, not only are there no
European leaders involved in these negotiations with Russia, Ukraine isn't

(04:14):
involved now in these negotiations. You know how to defend that,
I really don't. We decided we're going to end this
war and you're not invited. Well, I don't even know,
John Decker. If he plans to cover that, I think
he's going to go over the Department of Government Efficiency
trying to get access to a personal taxpayer data, like

(04:38):
they really need that. But we will talk about it
with James Karafano or Lieutenant Colonel's going to be joining
us in the third hour. Saverea flooding over the weekend
being blamed for more than a dozen deaths across the South.
Israel set to receive more hostages held by Hamas this Saturday.
Top officials of the Social Security Administration are stepping down
after a disagreement with DOJE and bridgid temperatures are set

(05:01):
to impact millions across the country. Our journey discoveries on COVID,
I really love kind of how the Pew research just
walks you through all of it. I think there's more
to it than this. It may be oversimplification, but they
say the most significant pandemic of our lifetime or created

(05:25):
as such, arrived in the United States, and we experienced
three major societal trends. Number one I agree with wholeheartedly.
The matrix was in motion, the US versus them divide
in our country. This is a combination of America, probably

(05:49):
by way of twenty four hour news walking its way
into political division. So we kind of watch politics the
way we used to watch all are wrestling and think, well,
we can start cracking chairs over people's heads too, you know.
So all the games that used to be played inside
the Beltway were played for real by those watching in

(06:10):
the hunger Games. I think that's probably the root of it.
But we were already very partisanly divided in this country.
We were already experiencing a matrix from the social dilemma
as well as the death of journalism, and COVID took
that and ran didn't it. So the number one thing

(06:31):
we find is a growing divide between the left and
the right. Actually, I think the actual formation of the
matrix you experienced it in COVID. You were living in
two different worlds with people. I had a cousin. I
think she would have been more of my mom's first
cousin and my second cousin, but we just called her
cousin and I would say her name, But I don't
know if we're on in that market. And I went

(06:55):
to Syracuse, New York for a funeral, and she was
at the funeral, and I was like, oh man, we
haven't seen you in forever. You need to come meet
my kids. If you think you had fun with us
growing up, you'll love my kids. They're very entertaining. And
this woman's in full mask. Oh, I ain't going anywhere
with COVID. Of course COVID was over by then. What
do you mean COVID. Oh you still wearing a mask.

(07:15):
I'm like, man, you're living in a different world. Whenever
you're watching you want to turn it off, you want
to do some real research. You're going to be fine.
You don't have any of the of the markers to
really be this cautious and worry. And that's when you realize,
oh my god, when you drove by somebody, they're in
their car alone with a mask on. I think that's
when you realized you were living in two different worlds.

(07:38):
So I love the way Pugh breaks it down, and
you'll see this in our Journey to Discovery, the growing
divide between partisan left and right. It actually became two
different realities, decreasing trust in many institutions. That was a
real result of COVID. By the way, I would say
certainly the CDC, certainly the World Health Organization, but I
think it goes beyond that to government to educate. A

(08:01):
lot of you had some real fights with your local
school boards. I talked about a hernia surgery that took
me out of school for six weeks in the third grade.
I am here to testify. I don't think I ever
caught up, and we did something far worse to every
American student. This is a generational education impact and betrayal.

(08:23):
I might add the economic betrayal that you can send
everybody home and flip off the economy like a light
switch and just turn it back on. And we all
saw that wasn't true. Devastating effects on people's lives and
everything they had built destroyed. So that led to a

(08:43):
decrease in trust in government and medical agencies. Quite frankly,
the media, how about this? It doesn't even show up
in this. How about corporate America. I'll never forget the
first days of COVID. Now I'm still researching the universe
of Washington tables because if you don't have real data,

(09:05):
you're just substituting for data these what do they call
it red? When you don't have the data, you do
the how might blank on that word modeling? Well, yeah,
the models, but it's what makes the model. Of course,

(09:26):
then later when you researched what the model was. I
always used the analogy of do you remember in not
Contagion the other one outbreak when McDreamy gets off the
plane and he's all sweaty and he's spinning, and he's
red around the eyes and purple around the mouth, and
there's mucus coming from every orifice including his ears, his eyes,
his mouth. And what does his girlfriend do? She French

(09:48):
kisses him. And you're like, well, that's kind of how
the models were. That led Defauci going too million, it'll
be dead by Eastern shut the whole thing down, And
of course Trump did it, big mistake. So I'm trying
to pour through the models and figure out assumptions, just
the word I was looking for. What assumptions are you
putting in place of data in these models? And I

(10:08):
couldn't find them anywhere anywhere, And I'm like, well, this
whole thing's being ad libbed. But as that was all
going on, what was I hearing? Whether it was a
Visa commercial or a Coca Cola commercial, I'm just bringing
up these names. I don't even know if they were them.
Everybody with the same messaging stay home, stay safe. This

(10:33):
is the new normal from day one, And I remember
thinking to myself, they don't know anything about this virus.
They don't even have data from Italy, let alone America,
and they know stay home, stay safe. This is the
new normal. And since one is a virus a new normal.
You know, you don't cure viruses. You learn to live

(10:54):
with them. You know how you learn to live with them.
You get them and die, or you get them and
then you're immune. So it's never a new normal, and
it never stays in illness. I have it right now.
What's the difference between me having COVID right this second
and me having COVID five years ago? Five years ago
when you heard somebody at COVID, Oh my god, they're

(11:15):
going to die and the statistics never bear that out.
So what do you think you're going to have when
it's all over. Well, the media told me all these
ridiculous things, and I believe them. The government told me

(11:36):
all these ridiculous things. My doctor, the CDC told me
all these ridiculous things. So a massive decrease in trust
in institutions, and it goes beyond just government to media,
to medical to CDC, World Health organization to your primary physician.
And then finally the massive splintering of the information environment.

(12:00):
That's when you realize not only was journalism dead, you
have something far more sinister and a cabal of sinistry
that somehow companies, media, government, medical, they were all at
the cabal table. And in the end of the day,

(12:23):
you go, well, there's two kinds of people. There's those
that are still driving around with masks, them in their
car alone. I mean, they're just in fear. But you
realize this was all massive fear for the purposes of control.
So we go through these numbers. It's going to paint
a pretty clear picture what were the impacts of COVID

(12:46):
nineteen five years later, And what you're going to find
is what you knew when it was happening. Our response
or reactions to COVID was far more lasting and deadly
than the virus itself. And while the virus is mutated
down to a common cold, almost your mistrust in government,

(13:09):
in media, in corporations, education, it's still there. Bottom line,
five years later, you may have healed from COVID, but
you haven't healed from our reaction and responses to COVID nineteen.
I assure you that'll be our journey of discovery. What
else do I want to do? On the DOGE findings
four point seven trillion dollar budget line item that is untraceable?

(13:33):
Can you imagine me in having an expenditure at four
point in my case, let's say it was forty seven
thousand dollars. My wife goes, where is this forty seven
thousand dollars be going? That's reading on for you to
find out. We'll have all that more between now and
the end of the third hour. Miss it? Will you
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(15:19):
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peace of mind. It's your morning show with Michael del Chorno.
US is holding talks of Russia. They're not even including
Ukraine and Israel set to receive more hostages. By the way,
that's just in this just in My son Nicholas has
made his choice after three days in Norman, where I

(15:40):
can tell you on campus it was delightful. Everybody finds
their sense of community and the place they belong. I
know all the mantra high livability, high scholastic achievement, great
university atmosphere. My son chosen our city. I actually said

(16:11):
to my son, you know I could Daddy could get
a house at Norman, and how are you gonna deal
with having your side? I could quit my job and
you know, we'll just go to you baseball games, basketball games, restaurants,
even went to aid A Baker Mayfield's favorite restaurant. Oh
is that good? Mexican through And then we all came
home with COVID. So here we are. Who better to
walk you through our journey of discovery when we come

(16:33):
back COVID five years later through the eyes of Pew
and the growing divide between the partisan left and right
that still exists, the decreasing trust in many institutions that
still exists, and the massive splintering of the information of
my environment and the matrix in America today, we'll walk
through all of it in our journey of discovery. Next,
a little hattie for early in the morning. But you,

(16:53):
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(17:51):
many of your listeners are true co hosts to the program.
It truly is our radio show. A year and four
months ago, when I was designing this based on forty
one years in radio and thirty five years in talk radio,
and hearing talk radio cease being a part of the
solution and starting to become a part of the problem.

(18:12):
I said, it's time that we reinvent and think about
this thing we call talk radio. I could not have
imagined a better email from somebody than that, we don't
say it, we live it now. The only way this
show would ever become about me and not you is
if you just abandoned it, because we always make it
about you. I can't have your morning show without your voice.

(18:35):
Use that talkback button, ask your questions, make your comments.
But we can't move forward with a show without having
your voice. So we're going to talk about this COVID
journey of discovery. I'm sure you're going to have some
reactions to that. Doge finding millions, literally millions of instances
of fraud within Social Security? How about four point seven
trillion dollars of a budget line that is untraceable? Remember

(18:58):
the bridge to nowhere? This is point seven trillion to nowhere. Wow,
put that your pipe and smoke it this morning, and
only eighteen injured and not a single death with a
Delta commuter flight from Minneapolis Saint Paul to Toronto, landing
on its back with its wings seared off in Toronto.

(19:19):
I mean, I know it's not Sully in the Hudson,
but it was pretty remarkable that everybody walked away from that.
So we'll have more on that coming up. But you
used to talk back butt and you find it if
you're listening on your iHeartRadio app. It's microphone press. It
counting down three to two one. But as Jeffrey would
remind you, you only get thirty seconds. Please use your time.
So many of you have gotten to your most critical
point and that's why I say, and your thirty seconds

(19:41):
was up edit and focus. Who's the Remember the one
lady who was telling us because I was talking about
the Grambling in Southern marching bands, So go boy, you
really have me regret not going to Grambling or Southern
but where I did go was and that's what it ended.
So remember you only have to was the lady that
said you remind me of I'm just saying you will
never know Nathan Lane, who knows. Anyway, It's great to

(20:05):
be back with you, and I appreciate Chris Kroc filling in,
what do you think of my old friend? I have
known Chris Kroc? Now are you ready for this? Twenty
three years? Wow, he's a good guy. That and John
Travolta being seventy one today, and who was it? There
was sixty eight? Oh, Vanna White is sixty eight. Yeah,
and she spent about sixty seven of those years turning letters.

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And we look forward to Pat's say, Jenny, all of
it makes us feel near death. All right, thirty eight
after the hour, here's our big journey of discovery for
the day. Pew Research walks us through COVID five years later,
the impacts of COVID nineteen. Now, I'll never forget. I
was at McGill's restaurant in tells Oklaholma, and I had
to go number one. I go into the bedroom. I

(20:48):
stand at the urinal as I'm going, I look up
and the whole wall is different sayings. And my eyes
go right to this one that says life is best
understood looking back, unfortunately, must be lived looking forward. It
was the most profound p of my life. Think about that?

(21:11):
How true is that golfers know what I'm talking about?
Can't find your ball. Look back, Oh there it is now.
I lived COVID in real time. I had to dodge
a lot of you're gonna get fired if you say this,
You're gonna get fired if you say that, guess what.
I said this and that and twice on Sunday. But

(21:33):
I followed the models. I searched for the assumptions. I
knew virology one oh one, David's NADI and best of
all is doctor McGowan were invaluable resources. So I won't
say that I went through it alone. But none of
it made sense. The notion you get this, you'll die,
so obey us didn't make sense because a lot of

(21:56):
people got it and didn't die, and those who got
it and died were usually explainable. And the notion of
stay home, stay safe, this is the new normal was
too suspicious of a mantra from day one, especially without
the data, because no virus is a new normal. All

(22:19):
viruses are absorbed, they're never cured. You get it, you die,
you get it, you live, and you're immune. But nevertheless,
let's look at COVID. Can't do real time now, but
let's do it looking back through the eyes of ourselves

(22:42):
and pure research, and remember this so much that we
know that is true now that was treated as crazy
conspiracy five years ago that I can't begin to touch.
And judging by who you were getting your information from,
I have no idea what your reality was. There were

(23:06):
a lot of inconsistencies which led to some people driving
around in their car wearing a mask all alone. And
you got to scratch your head and say, what's that
all about, Alphie. I'll never forget a one hundred degrees
Saturday afternoon, a perfectly thin, healthy twelve year old boy

(23:30):
running around playing Little League with a mask on and
one hundred degrees, And I'm thinking to myself, what's the
medical logical one oh one on this? What are the
odds of this kid getting sicker from wearing the mask
and one hundred degrees versus getting COVID and surviving it. Well,

(23:52):
what we find is the most significant pandemic of our
life arrived as the United States was already experience three
major societal trends, and where it took that was to
a whole new level. And that was the growing divide
between partisans on the left and the right, and a

(24:13):
decreasing trust in many institutions and finally a massive splintering
of the information environment, and that all bears out. So
as America is already US versus them, left versus right divided,
here comes COVID with two completely different messages, all playing

(24:37):
the fear card. Because when you're afraid, other than the
fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom, there
really is only two kinds of fears. The kind of
fear that, oh, I'm standing here and there's a ledge
and if I take another step, I'm going to fall
seven hundred feet to my death. I think I'll take

(24:59):
a u step back. That's a good fear. But the
kind of fears for things that probably won't happen. Those
those can be debilitating fears. But they wanted you afraid
so that you would obey. It was a control thing.

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And then when it was all said and done and
you paid all the price and they made all the billions, well,
the betrayal set in. So let's look at these numbers,
the response to COVID nineteen. Looking back, nearly three quarters
seventy two percent of US adults say the pandemic did
more to drive the country apart than bring it together.
I said this all throughout COVID to my local audience.

(25:43):
I'll say it now to my national audience. COVID revealed
far more than it did. Let me repeat that, so
it'll settle in. COVID revealed a lot more than it did.
It revealed how divided we were more than it created divisions.

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It revealed what little faith we have or over faith
we have in government, more than it did it. So,
looking back, nearly three quarters seventy two percent say the
pandemic did more to drive the country apart than bring
it together. Sixteen percent said it didn't have much impact
either way. Eleven percent said it did more to bring
the country together. You know, stand strong, covids strong, We'll

(26:32):
get through this together. Yeah, that's how it started. Wear
a mask and save someone's life, love someone else that
if you don't wear the mask, good oah. Then it
turned into remember invasion of the body snatchers. That's what
COVID reminded me of Donald Southern walking around pointing at
you and the same people. It's my body, don't tell

(26:54):
me what to do, and that we're not telling you
what to do with your body. Fundamental differences arose between
a mirror and so over what we expected from our government.
There's still two kinds of Americans who that every day. Right, Hey,
there was a tornado in Tuscaloosa County. Oh, that's the
government's job to solve it is Tornado's happen. Tasca Lucia

(27:14):
has county officials. Why do we have to all stand
strong now as a nation? And federal government's got to
solve every problem in life. I got a deadbeat husband
who left and isn't supporting the kids. What's the government's
solution for that? But we're both working. We need daycare.
What's the government going to do to pay for my daycare?
There's two kinds of Americans every day, those who want

(27:35):
the government to be everything. I have a god. I
don't need the government. It also revealed the difference between
Americans tolerance for health risk, which groups and sectors to
prioritize in a pandemic, you know, essentral workers versus you.

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Here's a fifteen hundred dollar check that was we thought,
that's what we thought your liberty was worth fifteen one
time fifteen hundred dollars payment. That one did almost get
me fired my OPS manager. You sent me a nasty email.
How dare you you're a contract employee getting paid. How
dare you tell everybody else to feel guilty for taking
their fifteen hundred dollars. Oh no, I'll let them take

(28:20):
fifteen hundred dollars then stay home and have their life run.
I just wouldn't say that. I'm so sorry. I wasn't sorry.
The pandemic left few aspects of daily life in America
on touch. Looking back on nearly five years later, three
quarters of Americans say COVID nineteen's pandemic took some sort

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of toll in their lives. Twenty seven percent said it
took a major toll on their life, forty seven percent
said it took a minor toll on their life. The
virus itself also had a staggering impact. A large majority
of US adults have had COVID nineteen at some point,
and more than one million Americans did die from COVID,

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and those deaths are real, just like the flu can
take people who are very sickly or at end of life,
and that's not to be taken lightly. In fact, there
was probably no greater betrayal, and the only betrayal greater
than the betrayal on our children. Was the betrayal of
the elderly, the most vulnerable. Millions continue to struggle with

(29:29):
long COVID, and most say they know someone who was
hospitalized or died from the virus. Massive gaps remained between
Republicans and Democrats. How did COVID a virus end up
a bend up partisan well? A majority of both Democrats
and Republicans were personally impacted by the pandemic. Eight and
ten Democrats, including independents who leaned to the Democrat Party,

(29:49):
say COVID nineteen took at least a minor toll on them.
Sixty nine percent of Republicans and GOP leaners said the same,
and virtually identical shares of Republicans and Demotocrats say they
had tested positive for COVID nineteen or had been pretty
sure they had it. But I ain't sticking nothing in
my nose. Who knows what the government's going to do
with That's not my DNA. That was my version of

(30:14):
Tom Hanks belittling half of America. Two years after the
pandemic started, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to say
the country had given too little priority to individual choice
and supporting businesses and economic activities in response to the
coronavirus outbreak, and a larger majority of Republicans than Democrats

(30:34):
said the country hadn't given enough priority to the need
of k through twelve students. Democrats, meanwhile, were more likely
to say the country came up short on limiting the
risks for vulnerable population and protecting public health. They still
wanted the government to do more. The left apparently doesn't
even look back and understand. More clearly, most Americans said

(30:58):
they probably would not get the most updated version of
the COVID vaccine. Have you ever done that? Who's still
wearing a mask? Who's still getting these vaccines? Now, there
are some people with certain health proclivities that it could
make great sense, But by and large, culturally, what young, healthy,

(31:23):
non obese, non diabetic, non smoking, thirty five year old
is still walking around with a mask or getting a vaccine?
I still I can't even imagine what's leading to that conclusion.
About eight and ten Republicans, eighty one percent said they
probably wouldn't get an updated vaccine. By contrast, a majority
of Democrats said they were planning to get or had

(31:48):
already received, the latest COVID vaccine same virus same mutations
all the way down to a mild cold. Some are
still wearing masks, some are not, some are still getting vaccines.
A majority of the others are not. Two different Americans.

(32:08):
It speaks to the matrix. With the benefit of five
years of perspective, Americans offer a mixed assessment of how
their leaders and institutions responded to the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Those in the front lines, hospitals and medical centers stand
out for positive ratings. About half of US adults are
fewer now say they're state elected officials forty nine percent,

(32:32):
Joe Biden forty percent, Donald Trump thirty eight percent. I
don't know how you could give Joe Biden a better
ratan than Donald Trump. But because they did the same thing,
the only differences. As Donald Trump knows he was duped
by Fougi, Joe Biden doesn't. A slim majority fifty six
percent get positive ratings to public health officials. I don't

(32:53):
know how only local hospitals get full throated approval from
the Americans looking back, I can think of a few
that or a big part of the problem. Seventy nine
percent of Democrats say public health officials response was excellent
or good, while thirty five percent of Republicans agree, well,
that's all if you believed in the fear and the

(33:13):
hospitals being the only defense. Now looking back, sixty two
percent of Republicans saying they should have should have been
fewer restrictions on activities. I haven't even gotten to education
and the information environment, probably the two most revealing. Or

(33:37):
we'll talk about the twenty twenty election, or the twenty
twenty four election, or even going back to the twenty
sixteen election as a birthplace of the death of journalism.
But COVID was a big breach in that trust. COVID
was the final straw that killed journalism. And the effects

(33:59):
COVID is going to have on our kids K through
twelve that lived it for five years will be felt
for a lifetime. This is your Morning Show with Michael
del Chrono. At least eighteen people are injured after a
Delta flight lands on its back, not its wheels, in Toronto.
The US is holding talks of Russia. Now they're not
even including Ukrainian officials. Remember whateverybody was freaking out yesterday.

(34:22):
You gotta have euro leadership at the table. I mean,
they're gonna have to live with whatever these parameters at
now they're having talked directly with Russia. Ukraine isn't even involved.
Roy o' neil has more on that and the condition
of the pope. We'll get you the very latest on that.
At his age, in this illness, you know, is it serious. Well,
he's not in critical condition, but yes, it can be
very serious at this age. And Israel set to receive

(34:44):
more hostages held by Hamas by Saturday, frigid temperatures set
to impact millions. You know it's bad when old Jeffrey
over there is checking into a hotel downtown just to
be sure it'd be safe. I'll take the free room
and the cable while you're at it. We're not paying
for your food. You're eating on your own. We're all
in this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael

(35:06):
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