Should Republicans be concerned about AOC? Polling numbers are way up, $10 million has already been raised, and AOC is the clear heir apparent to Bernie Sanders. Republican strategist Mike Hahn joins us to discuss the new Bernie!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your Morning show with Michael Del Jono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And the big picture is I'm watching Bernie Sanders, who,
let's face it, would have gotten the Democratic presidential nomination
in twenty sixteen if the DNC didn't rig it for Hillary.
He'd have got it again in twenty twenty if they
hadn't got a deal in South Carolina and rigged it
for Joe. Who knows if he could have gotten it
in this last cycle, but Joe hung out.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
They didn't tell you he was.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A fraud till after he secured all the electoral votes
in the primary and then just handed it to Kamala Harris.
And now I see him handing the torch of the
Justice Socialist Democrats to AOC. That would suggest that she's
the new face of about twenty six to thirty one
percent of the Democrat Party, one that's very active in
(00:51):
the primary process.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And now you may even have a.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Fox in the Henhouse with David Hogg to block any block,
although I think they're going to try to kick him out.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
And meanwhile, she's raised nearly ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So what's up with AOC Is she headed to the
Senate to replace Schumer and Crockett's now the new AOC
or Is she headed for a run for the presidency
and should the Republicans fear her. Republican strategist Mike Hahn
is joining us right now to discuss this. Let's start
first and foremost, any question in your mind, Mike, She's
(01:25):
the heir apparent to Bernie Sanders, is the head of
this coalition?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good morning, AOC is with that question, trying to make
a run for the presidency. The numbers she's putting up
here are presidential level numbers. I mean, she did nine
point six million in just the first quarter of this
year from a quarter of a million individual donors, average
donation of twenty one dollars, and not none of that
(01:50):
came from any lobbyists or a corporate pack So look,
I think this is signaling her growing influence within the
Democrat Party, the fact that the matters the party is
moving further left, and she's the face of that. She's
no longer the laughing stock that we thought she was,
you know, just five years ago. She is very a
very serious contender. And yeah, Republicans do need to start
(02:10):
taking her seriously, because, like I said, these are presidential
level numbers, don't. I work with many congressmen and women
on the Republican side. None of them came close to
watching this number. So it's scary stuff. But she needs
to be taken seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But you know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The Republicans are probably all laughing at you and me.
And by the way, if the DNC doesn't get involved,
she probably would get the nomination. I'm not just saying
she's going to run for president. I'm telling you she
could get the nomination if the DNC doesn't get involved
like they did in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. And
that remains to be seen. But Republicans are all laughing
(02:45):
at this notion. The Democrats are not laughing. They see
it coming and they're scrambling to figure out how to
fix this. For Wes Moore and Ronnie Manuel and I
think the first thing is get rid of David Hogg.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Right right, Well, well, the last thing AOC wants to
get rid of David Hawk because for folks like him
in the DNC, she's.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
On the road to the nomination as absolutely, but get
rid of her, oh absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But here here, here's my thing is in two years,
Republicans are going to be scratching their heads saying, well,
how did AOC get here? I mean, not only are
these numbers and saying you mentioned this, she she is
pulling massive crowds out in Idaho in red areas with
Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I mean, these are.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Trump twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen level rallies. We can't ignore
this type of this type of stuff here. We have
to realize the fact that the party has moved further
to the left, and she's she's the reason why. I mean,
she's been a huge voice, She's had a huge media platform.
She's really awoke in the younger, younger folks. I mean,
(03:47):
I'm a millennial, and you know, people seem to flock
towards her. They feel it's it's it's she's not an outsider,
but she's running on an outsider message.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
There is, like you said, there is a glaring difference, right,
all right, So everybody said.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Donald Trump can't be president.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Those are some of the greatest montages to watch after
the twenty sixteen election. Everybody that said they didn't take
him serious. You know, it's like the old Gandhi quote.
You know, first they laughed at him, then they mocked him,
then they fought him, then they lost kind of a thing.
But the notion was it was a joke that Donald
Trump could ever become president. The notion today is it's
a joke to think AOC could ever become president. Now,
(04:23):
Donald Trump was at least, you know, a business and
a celebrity mogul. She was an ex bartender and a
troublemaker in Congress who said some of the greatest word
salads in the history of word salads. But the Democrat
Party has been looking for a leader. They don't have one.
The people have chosen her. They're going to try to
make you think that people want Wes Moore, and they
could still pull this off Wes Moore and Ronny Manuel.
(04:46):
But look at how it's playing with Rommy Manuel. They're
keeping wes Moore on the sidelines so he's not harmed
by it. But Romney Manual's talking about, forget the bathroom.
We got to get you know, we got to pivot
back towards the American people. No, the party's saying we
got to go further left and fight. So there's a
divide in the party. A party that's been at war
with itself for a long time, and the new leader
they've selected first is AOC that makes her the front
(05:09):
runner and a real chance to be the Democratic nominee.
And I don't know how much the Republicans should fear it,
but I guarantee you the Democrats are faring it because
they simply can't have a socialist justice Democrat former bartender
be their nominee for president, can they.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I think we've seen crazier things happen in the Democrat
Party over the last two years.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But who.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Look, whether the party decides who's the nominee or not,
the fact of the matter is rom Emmanuel wes Moore.
These guys will never put up numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Like this ever they are.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
They'll have to read exactly they have to riga twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, the same, Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The same was true with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was
going all over the place, having these big crowds. It
was a grassroots movement within the party and they had
to scramble and make it Hill was super delicate. You know,
they've scrambled every time. But with David you got to
get rid of David Hope. David Hoes got to go immediately,
or he's going to put twenty million extra dollars to
target this movement within the party. And that's a real
(06:13):
problem because he's the vice chair of the DNC.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, I think we're heading towards a great divide in
this party. I think in twenty sixteen everyone was kind
of on the same page that Bernie Sanders was crazy.
He had a good, good size support.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
But this, the socialist movement has grown in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
This is not a problem that they can ignore anymore
or regan elections so that Bernie Sanders doesn't get in.
It has grown, It is fantastasized, and this isn't going silently.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You want to have some fun mine, Yeah, let's do it.
Let's have some done, all right. Mike con is joining
US Republican Strategist.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So the Democrats go with this, and they go with
AOC and she loses. Well, the socialist justice Democrat movement
is now probably over after that loss. If they spit
and switch with Ronney Manuel and Wes Moore and lose,
then the majority will become socialist. It's already probably in
(07:11):
the thirties, but at that point it'd be fifty if
she wins. Now, you have a socialist nominee. The party
is gone either way. It's a parasite issue where the
parasite will kill the host, and when the host dies,
the parasite dies too. This is the beginning of the
end of the Democrat Party by the end of the decade.
I think, no matter which way it plays, but AOC
is coming. In fact, she's already here.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
It's a lose lose for them and a win win
for us, I guess.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The fact of the matter is that the Democrat Party
can't survive. It's two It is two differing factions in
a party that doesn't exist anymore. You know. The saying
is that this isn't your Grandpa's Republican Party anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
It isn't. I mean, there are.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Two warring factions, and no matter what happens in the
next election, they're head and told to split.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They have to be well, what about.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Republican Party if presuming Donald Trump is leaving and
doesn't try to I think that would have been a
bigger disaster to pull a stunt for a third term.
But there has to be a successful handoff, because I
don't know that this is a red wave or a
red rain. It's an Orange wave and an orange rain.
So the Republican Party's future is just as uncertain because
it belongs to Donald Trump, who's leaving. So trump Ism
(08:17):
has to I actually think the Republican parties become the
Reagan Revolution morphed with the Tea Party, morphed with Maga
trump Ism, and that has to be a solidified identity
and through the next to the carrying of the torch.
I would presume it's Jade Evans, but it could there
could be a window for DeSantis if depending on how
this term finishes, or perhaps even Marco Rubio. But the
(08:41):
future of the party and how it's identified, that's not
an easy course to navigate either.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Right, here's the good news that the Republican Party is
quite unified in the sense you know when we're looking
at the Democrat Party.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But I think that no matter what.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Happened, I think I think President Trump will leave office.
I think he's just just joshing.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Around with the media. I think he'll leave office.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And when he does, his his endorsement is going to
weag heavy on who the next Republican nominee is going
to be.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, isn't that an interesting question Mike Back not to interrupt,
but I think Donald Trump Junior loves jd Vance and
I think Donald Trump does too.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
But I think Marco Rubio is Donald Trump's man.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Not Yeah, it's not a shot that that Marco Rufiou
would like to be president.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I mean he ran in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Fact as the matter is, and here's what's good is
that both Rubio and Vans are pretty young dudes. They're
going to have a shot at this in the future,
whether it's next election or you know, even ten years
down the line. So I'm hoping that we could put
inside our differences pick who the better option is.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
We'll see what We'll see what the polls of the
base is at the time.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And ultimately, this is Donald Trump's party, and whoever Donald
Trump wants to be the Republican nominee is going to
be the Republican nominee and have his support. So I
think we need to we need to come to terms
with that. And I think the fact that we actually
have a leader in our party where the Democrats don't
is fantastic because we could look to that person to
make decisions about the future of the party for whoever
(10:10):
long With that may be, and not fracture the party,
which is where the Democrat Party is heading.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, the Republican Party is headed towards advanced Ruvio ticket.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know who. I don't know who AOC would
put with herself. I can't imagine who she would choose
as a running mate.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Well, I hope it's.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No. She's got to take up the new AOC role.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Mike coun Republican strategist, really enjoyed our time together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Thank you so much for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del
Cherno
Previously on your Morning show with Michael Del Jono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And the big picture is I'm watching Bernie Sanders, who,
let's face it, would have gotten the Democratic presidential nomination
in twenty sixteen if the DNC didn't rig it for Hillary.
He'd have got it again in twenty twenty if they
hadn't got a deal in South Carolina and rigged it
for Joe. Who knows if he could have gotten it
in this last cycle, but Joe hung out.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
They didn't tell you he was.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A fraud till after he secured all the electoral votes
in the primary and then just handed it to Kamala Harris.
And now I see him handing the torch of the
Justice Socialist Democrats to AOC. That would suggest that she's
the new face of about twenty six to thirty one
percent of the Democrat Party, one that's very active in
(00:51):
the primary process.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And now you may even have a.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Fox in the Henhouse with David Hogg to block any block,
although I think they're going to try to kick him out.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
And meanwhile, she's raised nearly ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So what's up with AOC Is she headed to the
Senate to replace Schumer and Crockett's now the new AOC
or Is she headed for a run for the presidency
and should the Republicans fear her. Republican strategist Mike Hahn
is joining us right now to discuss this. Let's start
first and foremost, any question in your mind, Mike, She's
(01:25):
the heir apparent to Bernie Sanders, is the head of
this coalition?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good morning, AOC is with that question, trying to make
a run for the presidency. The numbers she's putting up
here are presidential level numbers. I mean, she did nine
point six million in just the first quarter of this
year from a quarter of a million individual donors, average
donation of twenty one dollars, and not none of that
(01:50):
came from any lobbyists or a corporate pack So look,
I think this is signaling her growing influence within the
Democrat Party, the fact that the matters the party is
moving further left, and she's the face of that. She's
no longer the laughing stock that we thought she was,
you know, just five years ago. She is very a
very serious contender. And yeah, Republicans do need to start
(02:10):
taking her seriously, because, like I said, these are presidential
level numbers, don't. I work with many congressmen and women
on the Republican side. None of them came close to
watching this number. So it's scary stuff. But she needs
to be taken seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But you know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The Republicans are probably all laughing at you and me.
And by the way, if the DNC doesn't get involved,
she probably would get the nomination. I'm not just saying
she's going to run for president. I'm telling you she
could get the nomination if the DNC doesn't get involved
like they did in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. And
that remains to be seen. But Republicans are all laughing
(02:45):
at this notion. The Democrats are not laughing. They see
it coming and they're scrambling to figure out how to
fix this. For Wes Moore and Ronnie Manuel and I
think the first thing is get rid of David Hogg.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Right right, Well, well, the last thing AOC wants to
get rid of David Hawk because for folks like him
in the DNC, she's.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
On the road to the nomination as absolutely, but get
rid of her, oh absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But here here, here's my thing is in two years,
Republicans are going to be scratching their heads saying, well,
how did AOC get here? I mean, not only are
these numbers and saying you mentioned this, she she is
pulling massive crowds out in Idaho in red areas with
Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I mean, these are.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Trump twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen level rallies. We can't ignore
this type of this type of stuff here. We have
to realize the fact that the party has moved further
to the left, and she's she's the reason why. I mean,
she's been a huge voice, She's had a huge media platform.
She's really awoke in the younger, younger folks. I mean,
(03:47):
I'm a millennial, and you know, people seem to flock
towards her. They feel it's it's it's she's not an outsider,
but she's running on an outsider message.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
There is, like you said, there is a glaring difference, right,
all right, So everybody said.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Donald Trump can't be president.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Those are some of the greatest montages to watch after
the twenty sixteen election. Everybody that said they didn't take
him serious. You know, it's like the old Gandhi quote.
You know, first they laughed at him, then they mocked him,
then they fought him, then they lost kind of a thing.
But the notion was it was a joke that Donald
Trump could ever become president. The notion today is it's
a joke to think AOC could ever become president. Now,
(04:23):
Donald Trump was at least, you know, a business and
a celebrity mogul. She was an ex bartender and a
troublemaker in Congress who said some of the greatest word
salads in the history of word salads. But the Democrat
Party has been looking for a leader. They don't have one.
The people have chosen her. They're going to try to
make you think that people want Wes Moore, and they
could still pull this off Wes Moore and Ronny Manuel.
(04:46):
But look at how it's playing with Rommy Manuel. They're
keeping wes Moore on the sidelines so he's not harmed
by it. But Romney Manual's talking about, forget the bathroom.
We got to get you know, we got to pivot
back towards the American people. No, the party's saying we
got to go further left and fight. So there's a
divide in the party. A party that's been at war
with itself for a long time, and the new leader
they've selected first is AOC that makes her the front
(05:09):
runner and a real chance to be the Democratic nominee.
And I don't know how much the Republicans should fear it,
but I guarantee you the Democrats are faring it because
they simply can't have a socialist justice Democrat former bartender
be their nominee for president, can they.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I think we've seen crazier things happen in the Democrat
Party over the last two years.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But who.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Look, whether the party decides who's the nominee or not,
the fact of the matter is rom Emmanuel wes Moore.
These guys will never put up numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Like this ever they are.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
They'll have to read exactly they have to riga twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, the same, Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The same was true with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was
going all over the place, having these big crowds. It
was a grassroots movement within the party and they had
to scramble and make it Hill was super delicate. You know,
they've scrambled every time. But with David you got to
get rid of David Hope. David Hoes got to go immediately,
or he's going to put twenty million extra dollars to
target this movement within the party. And that's a real
(06:13):
problem because he's the vice chair of the DNC.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, I think we're heading towards a great divide in
this party. I think in twenty sixteen everyone was kind
of on the same page that Bernie Sanders was crazy.
He had a good, good size support.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
But this, the socialist movement has grown in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
This is not a problem that they can ignore anymore
or regan elections so that Bernie Sanders doesn't get in.
It has grown, It is fantastasized, and this isn't going silently.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You want to have some fun mine, Yeah, let's do it.
Let's have some done, all right. Mike con is joining
US Republican Strategist.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So the Democrats go with this, and they go with
AOC and she loses. Well, the socialist justice Democrat movement
is now probably over after that loss. If they spit
and switch with Ronney Manuel and Wes Moore and lose,
then the majority will become socialist. It's already probably in
(07:11):
the thirties, but at that point it'd be fifty if
she wins. Now, you have a socialist nominee. The party
is gone either way. It's a parasite issue where the
parasite will kill the host, and when the host dies,
the parasite dies too. This is the beginning of the
end of the Democrat Party by the end of the decade.
I think, no matter which way it plays, but AOC
is coming. In fact, she's already here.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
It's a lose lose for them and a win win
for us, I guess.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The fact of the matter is that the Democrat Party
can't survive. It's two It is two differing factions in
a party that doesn't exist anymore. You know. The saying
is that this isn't your Grandpa's Republican Party anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
It isn't. I mean, there are.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Two warring factions, and no matter what happens in the
next election, they're head and told to split.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They have to be well, what about.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Republican Party if presuming Donald Trump is leaving and
doesn't try to I think that would have been a
bigger disaster to pull a stunt for a third term.
But there has to be a successful handoff, because I
don't know that this is a red wave or a
red rain. It's an Orange wave and an orange rain.
So the Republican Party's future is just as uncertain because
it belongs to Donald Trump, who's leaving. So trump Ism
(08:17):
has to I actually think the Republican parties become the
Reagan Revolution morphed with the Tea Party, morphed with Maga
trump Ism, and that has to be a solidified identity
and through the next to the carrying of the torch.
I would presume it's Jade Evans, but it could there
could be a window for DeSantis if depending on how
this term finishes, or perhaps even Marco Rubio. But the
(08:41):
future of the party and how it's identified, that's not
an easy course to navigate either.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Right, here's the good news that the Republican Party is
quite unified in the sense you know when we're looking
at the Democrat Party.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But I think that no matter what.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Happened, I think I think President Trump will leave office.
I think he's just just joshing.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Around with the media. I think he'll leave office.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And when he does, his his endorsement is going to
weag heavy on who the next Republican nominee is going
to be.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, isn't that an interesting question Mike Back not to interrupt,
but I think Donald Trump Junior loves jd Vance and
I think Donald Trump does too.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
But I think Marco Rubio is Donald Trump's man.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Not Yeah, it's not a shot that that Marco Rufiou
would like to be president.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I mean he ran in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Fact as the matter is, and here's what's good is
that both Rubio and Vans are pretty young dudes. They're
going to have a shot at this in the future,
whether it's next election or you know, even ten years
down the line. So I'm hoping that we could put
inside our differences pick who the better option is.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
We'll see what We'll see what the polls of the
base is at the time.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And ultimately, this is Donald Trump's party, and whoever Donald
Trump wants to be the Republican nominee is going to
be the Republican nominee and have his support. So I
think we need to we need to come to terms
with that. And I think the fact that we actually
have a leader in our party where the Democrats don't
is fantastic because we could look to that person to
make decisions about the future of the party for whoever
(10:10):
long With that may be, and not fracture the party,
which is where the Democrat Party is heading.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, the Republican Party is headed towards advanced Ruvio ticket.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know who. I don't know who AOC would
put with herself. I can't imagine who she would choose
as a running mate.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Well, I hope it's.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No. She's got to take up the new AOC role.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Mike coun Republican strategist, really enjoyed our time together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Thank you so much for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del
Cherno
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