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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Two three starting your morning off right. A new way
of talk, a new way of understanding because we're in
this together. This is your.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Morning show with Michael o'deil Charman.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
For those of you that are just joining us, we've
covered a lot already. One of the stories is CHUCKI Schumer.
It's an Axios piece. I can't figure out if this
is condemning Chucky or trying to defend Chucky, but apparently
it just reveals this has all been political theater. This
government shutdown never was going to happen. He negotiated with
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moderate Democrats to go along with it until early November.
The reason when the story is important is it shows
an expiration date on subsidies for the Affordable Care Act
that is anything but affordable. That the Democrats created, their
expiration date came to pass, and they wanted to shut
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the government over providing this At the end of the day,
what ends up being one party is able to pander
to voters to give them free healthcare that the rest
of America will pay for. But even it had an
expiration date. So the government shutdown will come to an
end today. I suspect this afternoon in the House and
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then signed by the President late afternoon early evening. The
real question is how long before things get back to normal?
And what did we just experience, which you just experienced
was a failed political theater that reveals far more than
anyone can afford to miss. David Sinati's our senior contributor.
Let's start first in this line of questioning, David, big
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winners and big losers, same question I asked John Decker,
who's the big winner of this whole government shutdown?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
If Chucky did this in order.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To wait for the open enrollment of the Affordable Care
Act in November so that he could show everybody how
somebody was getting free insurance. But now they're going to
have to pay double or triple for their premium. And
that's a Republican failure. Who's the big winner and loser
in all this because the knives are all off for
Chucky's Michael.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It's a very fair question and it beats the heck
out of me. I don't really have an answer for that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'd say the socialist Democrats because they're going to use
this as the momentum coming out of those November elections
and in the narrative for unseating Democrats. Look, the lesson
of twenty twenty four was the Democrat Party was too
far from left for America and rather coming back to center,
they went further left. Islamis socialist and they've got momentum
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now and they're going to show everybody that are Democrats
caved and they got the media buying this from the
view to John Stewart, and they're going to do what
they do. They are a parasite wanting to take over
the host, the Democrat Party. The problem is when the
host dies, you're going to die with it, or you're
both going to become third party smaller groups. You're not
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going to survive as a party. The moderates and the
rest of the independence in America aren't going to go
along with socialism and Islam. That's all this theater created.
And you can tell in how they're treating Chucky.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well, let me repair to history for just a moment.
This conversation was about Obamacare. Yes, this is the bill
that no one read. My guess is that every person
voting today in regards to this budget over the conflict
of Obamacare, along with every member of the media who
said two cents about this, of all of them put together,
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not one of them has read the bill. They don't
know what the law is. They don't know what the
law says. They didn't know what it was when they
voted on it. The famous Pelosi statement, which probably should
be on her tombstone, that we have to pass the
bill to know it's in it. We have to shut
down the government for someone to finally tell the truth.
And so ifar no one's told the truth. The fact
of the matter is is that Obamacare is one of
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the most inefficient, foolish mechanisms to attempt to pay for
healthcare bills that we've ever seen. It's a political football
of massive confusion, and it's fundamentally stupid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, I was just gonna say, if the Affordable Care
Act was foolish the Affordable Care Act with subsidies on steroids.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't know what the aadginative for that would be. Sure, well,
here's the actual the noun for it. It's called medicaid.
What they're trying to do is to get to medicaid
for all. What does that term mean? It sounds okay,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We should just have the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Honesty to say, you're talking about people who are working
and paying income taxes to the federal government paying for
one hundred percent of the health care insurance costs of
a group of people at a certain level of income
and down. It's called free healthcare for many, not all free.
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So the people who are working for a living who
are personally responsible in.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Paying and their employers insurance, and their employers their employers
will pay for everybody.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Now understand something. We've been paying for people who are
in desperate poverty and cannot afford healthcare.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
We've been paying for them since the sixties.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And I'm not objecting to the fact that we do that,
don't get me wrong, but let's call it what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But we used to do it at check out. Now
we're doing it at premium. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
That's that's brilliant about, very well said. And we also
have an insurance system set up for people over sixty five,
which is not optional, it's mandatory. And so once you
get to sixty five, you were removed from the realm
of personal responsibility and private insurance and you were forced
onto Medicare. Now, the thing about Medicare is that it
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works because it's an insurance program. Yes, it's a high
risk pool, but there are so many of them, and
people on Medicare pay so much. They pay ten thousand
dollars a year at least for their health care in
many instances. Now, what are people on Obamacare paying? The
goal is for them to pay nothing or next to nothing.
So in twenty twenty five they decided they wanted to
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expand it, and they use COVID as the excuse. There
were twelve million people on Obamacare before that time, and
they put the subsidy in and suddenly there's twelve million more.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It doubled twenty four million.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
How good was the deal, Well, the deal is basically free.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
They paid for their health care free.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
So what the Democrats are saying is we want free
healthcare for twelve million more people. Was zero accountability just
because it makes us look good and they'll vote for us.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh the government, they'll never come out and say it,
and the media will never ask the question and force
them to. David Sinati's their senior contributor.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Keep in mind, Obamacare came about because we had thirty
plus million Americans uninsured.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Now, that didn't mean they were an.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Alley forty seven million, get your numbers far for whatever
it was.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I got that one tattooed on my soul.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Forty seven million.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But they weren't out, you know, they weren't in alleyways
with flies in their eyes. They were getting care, they
just weren't paying for it. And then we were all
hang on, hanging on.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
There's one critical point, and the hospitals were giving it
to them and the medical institutions. That's why people like
the Cleveland Clinic and others got behind Obamacare because Obama said,
you're doing it on charity care right now, because you're
scheduled as incorporated as nonprofits. I'll take your charity care
off for you and lay it off on the government.
And all of a sudden, all the docks in the
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big hospital said fantastical that that profitability but we're a nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but yeah, But but the question is did Obamacare
insure everyone? No? Why because young people didn't? They were healthy,
they were young. No, not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Mich believe it.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
What they giveaways the forty seven million number were only
a twenty four million.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well yeah, you still haven't. But but what I want
them to see is that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
A the reasons you couldn't get everybody insured weren't impacted.
Then you were left with just the sickest and the oldest.
That's Actuary one oh one. So that you can't bring
premiums down, they're going to go up, which they did.
So you didn't ensure everyone, you didn't lower premiums, and
you didn't increase the quality of care. It was a
massive failure, such a massive failure. Everyone said it was
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designed to fail so that a single payer system would
be all that was left. And then it just went
on hole for ten years with nobody looking. But it
wasn't ensuring everybody. Then they added the subsidies, then they
put them on steroids.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
During COVID and.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You basically had four hundred percent of the poverty level.
You could have an individual what sixty thousand, I guess
a family over one hundred thousand and you would qualify
for subsidies. So instead of paying four hundred a month,
they gave sixty billion dollars to make sure you paid nothing. Well,
that would get some people to sign up. He get's free,
why not? But even then you only got to half insured.
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So at best, what has Obamacare done in two decades?
Still hasn't insured hardly more than half, and that's giving
it away to many and premiums are as they're griping
and shutting down the government over.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I mean, that's really the ultimate right. Pass it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, you got to pass it to know what's in it.
Then you got to shut down the government to keep
it going. But nobody, forgive God's sakes, read it. Maybe, yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Maybe ten percent of the people, even having this conversation
on Capitol Hill would even understand what you and I
just talked about.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Okay, so here's the other thing. Remember this about Obamacare.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
There's no pre existing conditions, which means you get sick,
you go to the hospital, you have no care, they
sign you up for Obamacare on the spot.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That's not insurance.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
No insurance is when you take personal responsibility and you
participate in the system when you are well so that
the system pays for you when you're not. That's shoebox
insurance one oh one. That's how insurance started, and there's
nothing wrong with it. People used to put money in
a shoebox in case they got sick, and then they said,
let's do it.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
As a community.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That was called mutual funds in healthcare. Remember Blue Cross,
Blue Shield, mutual companies. People got together in regions and
took care of each other. That's insurance, and insurance works
saying to somebody who carry no responsibility until you get sick,
and then since you don't qualify for Medicaid, you're sitting
there in the emergency room and they're signing you up.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And that's what the Democrats are defending right now, and
the Republicans don't have the guts to expose. That's why
Ran Paul and other people understand healthcare.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So upsets all right, is that they don't have the
guts or they don't understand it either.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, the first off, we know they haven't read it,
and let's do this.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Let's throw everybody out of Congress that hasn't read Obamacare
and had.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
A briefing on it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Let me pay how many thousand, oh, twenty four hundred, yeah,
twenty four hundred pages, No wonder that it.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Depends on what version.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And you had to read it and your staff had
to read it twelve times.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We had members of Congress and calling us asking what
was in the bill?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
That it's a fraud, Michael.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
It has been a fraud from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It's all politics over socioeconomics to put votes in the
Democrat Party. Now I'm an independent. I can't stand any
of them because they're all lying to us. They are
all lying to us.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And yet they want to just pick on Chucky Schumer.
That's the extent of their understanding. All right, more with
David Sanati when we return.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chuno.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I have made this point in the air several times.
I'll never forget. My father has a an unrealistic fear
of people in motorized chairs. I don't know how I
laugh every time.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But he's like serious, Uh, they're going to kill somebody,
I said he They're just in a motorizer.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, but they'll look with a go in the fast
and I crack up. I pee my pants when he
does this. So one time I'm at publics and this
very large woman in a motorized chair full speed doesn't
even slow down full speed going down the aisle, reaches,
grabs the big bag of chips without slowing down, and
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then opens them.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And as she's shopping, she's eating the chips. She had momentum.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I thought to myself, how many people you know,
because this whole shutdown is over Snap and Obamacare, how
many people are we paying for the unhealthy foods they're eating,
and then we're paying their premiums for when they get unhealthy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think that's what the caller is expressing.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Dave from Surprise here again, as you guys were pained,
so they can get very unhealthy, and then we're paying
for them to be on Obama Care to solve these
health problems that were generated by the unhealthy choices they
made through processed foods and sugary drinks and Snap.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How different, David, would the argument be if Democrats got
on television and said, listen, those that vote for us
shouldn't have to pay their insurance premiums. They don't have
to pay for healthcare until after they're sick, or if
we started arguing to you don't have to have car
insurance until you get in a wreck.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I mean, that's how insane it is.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And so for the few that get it, it's like,
oh my gosh, but most don't. And here we go,
so the shutdown will be over, but we haven't solved.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
The problem, right mom, Donnie for president.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, that's or ReOC That's how they planned there.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It is because if your philosophy is Marxism, the justice
is based upon everyone having the same We're almost there
right now. You have fifty percent of American households that
pay no income tax to the federal government at all,
and you have a permanent and underclass that is being
paid for with food, housing, healthcare, education, everything that they
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need to the level where if you tried to buy
somebody out of that benefit plan into the private sector,
they've got to get an opening job for sixty thousand
dollars a year. And so it's better for them to
not work and live in the lifestyle where they make
a choice. They don't have to work, because if they
come out and they get a job, they change their
lifestyle not at all, but they've got to put forty
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hours in somewhere. Now, these are the choices that we
have made available to people.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Why would government has done that, Why Congress has done that?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Why would we have a pursuit of happiness and we
can just sit on our butt and have it come
to us.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I always love that.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Not everybody satisfied with that, Michael. There's still is a
lot of people who are working. The problem is those
of us that are working are now forced to give
fifty percent of everything that we earn back into the
tax system to pay for those who don't.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
You want to know how civil war comes?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, and this notion that both have to work, that
was beautiful because you don't really gain much, but the
government does.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
They can text two incomes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I might add too that you know, at some point,
if we don't solve this and moving forward, which clearly
we're not going to, these numbers get worse with time.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
They do, and the reason for that is we have
watched in our lifetime the diminishment of a fundamental principle
of economy. And this is the sort of stuff that
Bonson talks about, but very few other people do. The
fundamental economic drive of an economy is one. People are
good for business, but there's a caveat to that. People
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accepting personal responsibility are really good for business. But if
I know I can lay off my responsibility on excuses
based on envy because someone has something I don't have,
and I take the Marxist pill that says everything has
to be equal before it can be fair, and I'll participate.
Then everything goes to You know what, that's where we
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are right now, and that's what this Congress. That's why
it smells so much in that building. That's why it
stinks in every emanation that you hear coming from the
United States Capitol because they're peddling us a boatload.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And you know what, Well, now you're into my biggest,
my biggest idea. You know, like when you leave the beach,
there's a shower before you get to where your car is.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You can rinse off off the sand.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We need a shower outside the doors of Congress and
we can all be clean after we've been inside there.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I will go overnight inside the district and no, I
won't drink.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The water either.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
When I go in there.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Time to overtime, we go with the CEO of the
American Policy Round Table and the host of Public Square
on the dysfunction that we call what once was a
great republic.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Hey, this is Jeff from Tulsa, Oklahm.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
And my morning show is your Morning Show with Michael Deljorno.
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is the show that belongs to you, and we're on
or to serve. This is your morning show. House will
vote today, I presume, and reopen the government. The President
will sign it immediately, But how soon before things get
back to normal. Delays and cancelations and airports across the
country are only going to get warse especially as we
go from six percent to ten percent. And that's mostly
at the forty busiest airports and hubbs. Venezuela mobilizing its
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military as a US aircraft carrier Gerald R.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Ford arrives in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And millions are dealing with below average temperatures, especially in
the eastern section of the country. We had that earlier
this week, although we're starting to warm up here in
the middle of the country. And we're visiting with David
Sonati and I want to start with Joe Rogan. Quote
U picture. We're having a party and all of a
sudden the doorbell rings and someone who has entered the party,
and that person is Joe Rogan. He's finally figured out
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the trajectory of all this division and all this hate
Civil war.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating, like whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
You want people to die that you disagree with?
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Like, where are.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We right now?
Speaker 10 (18:24):
On the scale of one to two Civil War? Where
are we are we at seven? Because I thought we
were five. Other were like four, four or five. But
after Charlie Kirk, now I'm like, oh, we might be
like seven, might be like seven.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm on a golf course, you know, just trying to
work out my game, and David turns to me goes, Michael,
it's eighteen fifty. You got ten years to solve the
Civil War. Go I'm trying to solve my steep swing,
and he gives me solve the Civil War, which I
found to be a historic intellectual a wonderful exercise. And
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if you've studied history, or if you've at least googled it,
chat gpted it, you would see there were moral issues,
intent issues, were all men created and being treated equally?
There were states rights issues, agricultural issues, there were a
lot of issues, and it was I finally looked at
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him after about four or five holes, I can't solve it,
and we didn't, and we had it. Okay, Well where
are we now, which is why we started the podcast
eighteen fifteen And I remember I came up with the
name because of your first question, eighteen fifteen you got
ten years to solve the Civil War from happening, And
I thought, well, we got to make it a place though,
so we called it eighteen fifty Main Street. Well, here's
Joe Rogan arriving at the same place. Maybe with his influence,
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more Americans will take seriously, we are the divided states
of America, quite frankly, an urban divide versus the rest
of America. The differences between the left and the right
are much greater than they've ever been. There's a lot brewing. Well,
you were the originator of the question three years ago.
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I'd say about a seven is right in terms of
the trajectory.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, and it just depends, Michael. These things if, as
you've noted regularly, they come out of nowhere. But then
you look back and go, wow, it was obvious in
plain sight, Like, for example, at what point in time
will a confrontation over the immigration policy break out into
urban warfare between federal troops and locals at whatever level
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locals may be. At what point in time will a
mayor commission his police department to do battle with the
feds or the.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Gangs themselves or the game cartels?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Exactly, how will the cartels choose to make their stand
here on our land right and mobilize that activity? And
how many of those outbreaks there? And one thing leads
to the next leads to the next. There were people
that were actually dueling in Congress at that period of time,
members of Congress killing each other in duels. There were
members of Congress walking across the aisle and beating each
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other mercilessly, almost to death. I mean, this kind of
violence is not uncommon to our country. But let's take
a big step back. This is not historic inevitability. This
is a systematic pattern. When people loses their core identity,
they lose their character. When they lose their shared character,
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then they are no longer able to work together in
communion and in harmony, and they break into full discord.
Now we shortened that whole equation down to lose God
lose man. Because there was a time in our country
when people believed that their source wasn't the government, their
source was their creator, that same creator that's mentioned four
times in the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
And since we didn't look to.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
The government to solve our problems for us, that we
actually believe there was a God and we would answer
to him, but not only answer to him, but that
he would provide for us, that he brought us here
for a reason and for a purpose, and that his
destiny was bigger than our politics.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
That sense of reality gave us a sense.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Of both initiative and security, and we looked at each
other differently. We looked at each other differently, and people say, oh, yes,
but you had slavery. Of course we had slavery. It
was the number one issue in everybody's face. Every time
you held up the mirror, that's what you saw, because
we couldn't come to our full identity until we've dealt
with that issue. But the issue was created equal, not
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made equal. And the problem is we've now turned to
our government to be the great equalizer. That's the Marxist
trick that happened in the eighteen hundreds, and now it's
on our doorstep.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I have in my notes how do we avoid this?
How do we find our way out of this mess?
And I just wrote two five zero, the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of a document. This document could get
us out of this mess. And that's why I think
there's going to be a spiritual and human tugg a
war over this document in the coming year.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And that's why The Atlantic is already publishing and relentlessly
every week coming out with another article to blast the
founding reality of what we just described, which is that
individuals are made in the image of God and are
purposed by God, and that purpose prevails over everything else.
That's the fundamental reality of what John Locke was contributing
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to this process in the sixteen hundreds, and Montesque is
doing the same, these philosophical fathers that the Founders lead into.
But they read Ephesians to attend they knew their Bible.
They didn't need Montesque in Locke to tell them they
were already connected to the soil.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So now it's twenty twenty five. People don't know created
equal versus made equal differences. They don't know God anymore.
They don't respect God. They certainly don't know that we
were all created in Christ Jesus. We are His workmanship,
created to do good. I mean, they don't have any
of this. How do you get out of it?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Well, you start by teaching your kids the twenty third psalm.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. In
other words, the government's not my shepherd. God God put
me here for a reason of purpose. That single idea
alone breaks the chain. I am here with a transcendent
purpose that is bigger than humanity and bigger than government.
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And there is a benevolent, loving God who cares about
my future. That's used to be what we taught in
our inner cities, Michael, And where is the church? Where
are believing people? And look, I'll expand it, where is
the Judeo Christian ethic?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
And the church and the synagogue?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Explaining that humans are not just the sum of their parts,
not just cosmic accidents that the government's got the shepherd
and steel. No, this is the core reality. It's identity.
Because from identity flows national character. And without national character,
General Washington made it very clear from the battlefield. The
victorious General said, the single most important thing now must
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do to become a nation in seventeen eighty three at
the victory point of the war is to develop our
national character.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I know we've had this conversation before, but I don't
know that we've ever had it on your morning show.
We only got a minute. But when you think of
the Declaration of Independence, if I had to pick one thing,
self evident truth, imagine in that time those people in
that room what self evident truth meant versus the non
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existence of self evident truth today? Is there a way
to do this without rediscovering our self evident truth?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Introducing the word truth actually is a hostile moment because yeah,
well they're all playing conscious pilot. What's truth? That was
not the case in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We got a real mess, and when Joe Rogan sees it,
you know itself, it's pretty apparent to many. The question
becomes like, eighteen fifty can we stop it before it's
too late?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Oh, it's kind of what we're about.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Right, Well, it requires a change of mind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
David Zanati will are we getting a bonus appearance tomorrow? Sure?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Sure temperature is steady. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
More with David Zanatti tomorrow and in your favorite David
Bonsen will be here too. We'll probably run some of
this by our theologian economists as well. All right, I
hope we went beyond just the headlines to further understanding
and meaning. This shutdown never should have happened. But then again,
we shouldn't be thirty seven trillion dollars a debt and
Obamacare never should have happened. The government may reopen, but
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have our eyes opened? Tough question to answer, but I
pray they do, David, Thanks for helping us get them open.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Thanks, Michael. All right, if you're just.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Waking up, we expect the House to pass the bill
and end the shutdown this afternoon and the President to
sign it shortly after two.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sammy Trio has our top story.
Speaker 11 (27:02):
Overnight, the House Rules Committee voted along party lines to
advance a government funding deal that's already passed in the Senate.
The majority GOP committee did not adopt any amendments to
the bill that would extend federal health care subsidies. The
funding package now makes its way to the House, where
a final vote is expected before the end of the day.
I'm Tammy Trio.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The Supreme Court is extending an order allowing the Trump
administration to withhold full SNAP payments.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
Last week, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson issued an administrative stay
that blocked a lower court order requiring the administration to
make the payments. Tuesday's ruling extends that stay through Thursday.
This comes as a spending bill that would reopen the
federal government is set to be voted on in the
House after it was approved by the Senate earlier this week.
The bill would provide full funding for SNAP benefits through
next September and keeps most of the government running on
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a short term basis through January thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well, the big.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Airlines are warning the cancelations will continue even after the
government reopens.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And yesterday was a mess, today is expected to be worse. Rory.
This is not good news. They're saying, is that this
is not like flipping a switch.
Speaker 13 (32:01):
That getting all these airlines fully operational and getting all
these air traffic control systems fully operational is going to
take a minute or two. And you know, we're all saying, well,
when is it going to get back to normal. Well,
it's not going to get back to normal until the
first week of December and when we're through the Thanksgiving
holiday travel. But so we're trying to get back to
normal in a time when air travel is very unnormal.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I guess, so abnormal is the word.
Speaker 13 (32:26):
So we are expecting the Transportation Secretary to give us
some more details about how they can bring up this
flight capacity as they get more evidence that shows that
safety is improving within the system. Yesterday, Secretary Duffy described
how some of the conversations between air traffic and pilots
is got a little lax and a little too casual,
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that sometimes planes got a little too close, either on
the ground or in the air, So they want to
see safety data first then they'll start talking about increasing
that airline capacity.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Again, my head does the emoji explosion when I think
Thanksgiving Christmas travel. What became of everybody that had booked flights?
And will those flights? Have they been canceled? Will they
be restored before they have to be canceled? What if
you were going on today, how could you book a
flight for Thanksgiving? Would would be better off waiting for
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the last minute? And then what would the price be
I mean just you know, yeah, I mean I think
to some degree. You and I talked about this, I
think on Monday, and we were like, well, it wouldn't
be instantaneous, could it be leveled off and improved by Thanksgiving? Well? Yes,
if you bought your ticket like a train in the
old days, right before you get on, I suspect you're
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going to.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Feel the ripples of this long through New Year's well.
Speaker 13 (33:47):
Right, and then you get the add in things like Okay,
we're flying to get on our cruise and we have
to be at this airport at this time and get
there at the port at that time. You know, a
lot of these travel plans are part of bigger plans,
and it can also be different goal to manage, because yeah,
a lot of that business travel can be turned into
a zoom call instead, but a lot of that other
family travel and holiday travel has very specific deadlines to
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get to weddings, funerals.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, they run the gamut. So yeah, it's a
stressful time.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Indeed, finish the lyric I'll be home for I don't
know when right, but I get home for Christmas. Halsdale
roy O'Neil. Great reporting as always, we'll talk again tomorrow.
I want to finish with an email kind of wraps
up and ties a bow on our whole hour long conversation. Michael,
my wife and I had Obamacare since twenty twenty two.
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I retired in early twenty twenty. I'm now sixty five
and I met Acare. My wife is sixty three. I
signed her up two days ago for the twenty twenty
six Bronze Obamacare at two seventy nine a month. The
subsidy is about seven hundred and twenty five dollars a month.
All I hear is the Affordable Care Act premiums will
skyrocket for everyone.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Not true.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The debate is over the Biden extensions due to COVID. Well,
that's the steroids part I talk about, And that was
the Democrats, and they set it up with an expiration date.
And now that the expiration date they set is here,
they want to shut down the government. Those of us
who stay under the four hundred percent still get the
tax subsidies as before. I estimated twenty twenty six AGI
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at sixty five thousand dollars. The past two years we've
had to pay back most of the subsidies. Well, that's
how I know. I got twenty seconds. How can I
do this? But that's the trick of the game. If
you can get all your subsidies up front and get
a great premium rate, but you're going to get a
surprise with them without congress if you make too much money,
(35:36):
so it becomes a you better be really good at
guessing and predicting what your income will be because every
penny over you will be taxed. Dear leon Or, as
he's suggesting, paying back those subsidies. Great email, Keep coming,
Michael di atiheartmedia dot com.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
For those of you that are just joining us, we've
covered a lot already. One of the stories is CHUCKI Schumer.
It's an Axios piece. I can't figure out if this
is condemning Chucky or trying to defend Chucky, but apparently
it just reveals this has all been political theater. This
government shutdown never was going to happen. He negotiated with
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moderate Democrats to go along with it until early November.
The reason when the story is important is it shows
an expiration date on subsidies for the Affordable Care Act
that is anything but affordable. That the Democrats created, their
expiration date came to pass, and they wanted to shut
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the government over providing this At the end of the day,
what ends up being one party is able to pander
to voters to give them free healthcare that the rest
of America will pay for. But even it had an
expiration date. So the government shutdown will come to an
end today. I suspect this afternoon in the House and
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then signed by the President late afternoon early evening. The
real question is how long before things get back to normal?
And what did we just experience, which you just experienced
was a failed political theater that reveals far more than
anyone can afford to miss. David Sinati's our senior contributor.
Let's start first in this line of questioning, David, big
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winners and big losers, same question I asked John Decker,
who's the big winner of this whole government shutdown?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
If Chucky did this in order.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To wait for the open enrollment of the Affordable Care
Act in November so that he could show everybody how
somebody was getting free insurance. But now they're going to
have to pay double or triple for their premium. And
that's a Republican failure. Who's the big winner and loser
in all this because the knives are all off for
Chucky's Michael.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It's a very fair question and it beats the heck
out of me. I don't really have an answer for that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'd say the socialist Democrats because they're going to use
this as the momentum coming out of those November elections
and in the narrative for unseating Democrats. Look, the lesson
of twenty twenty four was the Democrat Party was too
far from left for America and rather coming back to center,
they went further left. Islamis socialist and they've got momentum
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now and they're going to show everybody that are Democrats
caved and they got the media buying this from the
view to John Stewart, and they're going to do what
they do. They are a parasite wanting to take over
the host, the Democrat Party. The problem is when the
host dies, you're going to die with it, or you're
both going to become third party smaller groups. You're not
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going to survive as a party. The moderates and the
rest of the independence in America aren't going to go
along with socialism and Islam. That's all this theater created.
And you can tell in how they're treating Chucky.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well, let me repair to history for just a moment.
This conversation was about Obamacare. Yes, this is the bill
that no one read. My guess is that every person
voting today in regards to this budget over the conflict
of Obamacare, along with every member of the media who
said two cents about this, of all of them put together,
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not one of them has read the bill. They don't
know what the law is. They don't know what the
law says. They didn't know what it was when they
voted on it. The famous Pelosi statement, which probably should
be on her tombstone, that we have to pass the
bill to know it's in it. We have to shut
down the government for someone to finally tell the truth.
And so ifar no one's told the truth. The fact
of the matter is is that Obamacare is one of
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the most inefficient, foolish mechanisms to attempt to pay for
healthcare bills that we've ever seen. It's a political football
of massive confusion, and it's fundamentally stupid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, I was just gonna say, if the Affordable Care
Act was foolish the Affordable Care Act with subsidies on steroids.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't know what the aadginative for that would be. Sure, well,
here's the actual the noun for it. It's called medicaid.
What they're trying to do is to get to medicaid
for all. What does that term mean? It sounds okay,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We should just have the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Honesty to say, you're talking about people who are working
and paying income taxes to the federal government paying for
one hundred percent of the health care insurance costs of
a group of people at a certain level of income
and down. It's called free healthcare for many, not all free.
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So the people who are working for a living who
are personally responsible in.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Paying and their employers insurance, and their employers their employers
will pay for everybody.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Now understand something. We've been paying for people who are
in desperate poverty and cannot afford healthcare.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
We've been paying for them since the sixties.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And I'm not objecting to the fact that we do that,
don't get me wrong, but let's call it what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But we used to do it at check out. Now
we're doing it at premium. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
That's that's brilliant about, very well said. And we also
have an insurance system set up for people over sixty five,
which is not optional, it's mandatory. And so once you
get to sixty five, you were removed from the realm
of personal responsibility and private insurance and you were forced
onto Medicare. Now, the thing about Medicare is that it
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works because it's an insurance program. Yes, it's a high
risk pool, but there are so many of them, and
people on Medicare pay so much. They pay ten thousand
dollars a year at least for their health care in
many instances. Now, what are people on Obamacare paying? The
goal is for them to pay nothing or next to nothing.
So in twenty twenty five they decided they wanted to
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expand it, and they use COVID as the excuse. There
were twelve million people on Obamacare before that time, and
they put the subsidy in and suddenly there's twelve million more.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It doubled twenty four million.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
How good was the deal, Well, the deal is basically free.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
They paid for their health care free.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
So what the Democrats are saying is we want free
healthcare for twelve million more people. Was zero accountability just
because it makes us look good and they'll vote for us.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh the government, they'll never come out and say it,
and the media will never ask the question and force
them to. David Sinati's their senior contributor.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Keep in mind, Obamacare came about because we had thirty
plus million Americans uninsured.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Now, that didn't mean they were an.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Alley forty seven million, get your numbers far for whatever
it was.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I got that one tattooed on my soul.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Forty seven million.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But they weren't out, you know, they weren't in alleyways
with flies in their eyes. They were getting care, they
just weren't paying for it. And then we were all
hang on, hanging on.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
There's one critical point, and the hospitals were giving it
to them and the medical institutions. That's why people like
the Cleveland Clinic and others got behind Obamacare because Obama said,
you're doing it on charity care right now, because you're
scheduled as incorporated as nonprofits. I'll take your charity care
off for you and lay it off on the government.
And all of a sudden, all the docks in the
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big hospital said fantastical that that profitability but we're a nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but yeah, But but the question is did Obamacare
insure everyone? No? Why because young people didn't? They were healthy,
they were young. No, not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Mich believe it.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
What they giveaways the forty seven million number were only
a twenty four million.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well yeah, you still haven't. But but what I want
them to see is that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
A the reasons you couldn't get everybody insured weren't impacted.
Then you were left with just the sickest and the oldest.
That's Actuary one oh one. So that you can't bring
premiums down, they're going to go up, which they did.
So you didn't ensure everyone, you didn't lower premiums, and
you didn't increase the quality of care. It was a
massive failure, such a massive failure. Everyone said it was
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designed to fail so that a single payer system would
be all that was left. And then it just went
on hole for ten years with nobody looking. But it
wasn't ensuring everybody. Then they added the subsidies, then they
put them on steroids.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
During COVID and.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You basically had four hundred percent of the poverty level.
You could have an individual what sixty thousand, I guess
a family over one hundred thousand and you would qualify
for subsidies. So instead of paying four hundred a month,
they gave sixty billion dollars to make sure you paid nothing. Well,
that would get some people to sign up. He get's free,
why not? But even then you only got to half insured.
(09:12):
So at best, what has Obamacare done in two decades?
Still hasn't insured hardly more than half, and that's giving
it away to many and premiums are as they're griping
and shutting down the government over.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I mean, that's really the ultimate right. Pass it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, you got to pass it to know what's in it.
Then you got to shut down the government to keep
it going. But nobody, forgive God's sakes, read it. Maybe, yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Maybe ten percent of the people, even having this conversation
on Capitol Hill would even understand what you and I
just talked about.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Okay, so here's the other thing. Remember this about Obamacare.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
There's no pre existing conditions, which means you get sick,
you go to the hospital, you have no care, they
sign you up for Obamacare on the spot.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That's not insurance.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
No insurance is when you take personal responsibility and you
participate in the system when you are well so that
the system pays for you when you're not. That's shoebox
insurance one oh one. That's how insurance started, and there's
nothing wrong with it. People used to put money in
a shoebox in case they got sick, and then they said,
let's do it.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
As a community.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That was called mutual funds in healthcare. Remember Blue Cross,
Blue Shield, mutual companies. People got together in regions and
took care of each other. That's insurance, and insurance works
saying to somebody who carry no responsibility until you get sick,
and then since you don't qualify for Medicaid, you're sitting
there in the emergency room and they're signing you up.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And that's what the Democrats are defending right now, and
the Republicans don't have the guts to expose. That's why
Ran Paul and other people understand healthcare.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So upsets all right, is that they don't have the
guts or they don't understand it either.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, the first off, we know they haven't read it,
and let's do this.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Let's throw everybody out of Congress that hasn't read Obamacare
and had.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
A briefing on it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Let me pay how many thousand, oh, twenty four hundred, yeah,
twenty four hundred pages, No wonder that it.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Depends on what version.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And you had to read it and your staff had
to read it twelve times.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We had members of Congress and calling us asking what
was in the bill?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
That it's a fraud, Michael.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
It has been a fraud from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It's all politics over socioeconomics to put votes in the
Democrat Party. Now I'm an independent. I can't stand any
of them because they're all lying to us. They are
all lying to us.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And yet they want to just pick on Chucky Schumer.
That's the extent of their understanding. All right, more with
David Sanati when we return.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chuno.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I have made this point in the air several times.
I'll never forget. My father has a an unrealistic fear
of people in motorized chairs. I don't know how I
laugh every time.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But he's like serious, Uh, they're going to kill somebody,
I said he They're just in a motorizer.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, but they'll look with a go in the fast
and I crack up. I pee my pants when he
does this. So one time I'm at publics and this
very large woman in a motorized chair full speed doesn't
even slow down full speed going down the aisle, reaches,
grabs the big bag of chips without slowing down, and
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then opens them.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And as she's shopping, she's eating the chips. She had momentum.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I thought to myself, how many people you know,
because this whole shutdown is over Snap and Obamacare, how
many people are we paying for the unhealthy foods they're eating,
and then we're paying their premiums for when they get unhealthy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think that's what the caller is expressing.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Dave from Surprise here again, as you guys were pained,
so they can get very unhealthy, and then we're paying
for them to be on Obama Care to solve these
health problems that were generated by the unhealthy choices they
made through processed foods and sugary drinks and Snap.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How different, David, would the argument be if Democrats got
on television and said, listen, those that vote for us
shouldn't have to pay their insurance premiums. They don't have
to pay for healthcare until after they're sick, or if
we started arguing to you don't have to have car
insurance until you get in a wreck.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I mean, that's how insane it is.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And so for the few that get it, it's like,
oh my gosh, but most don't. And here we go,
so the shutdown will be over, but we haven't solved.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
The problem, right mom, Donnie for president.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, that's or ReOC That's how they planned there.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It is because if your philosophy is Marxism, the justice
is based upon everyone having the same We're almost there
right now. You have fifty percent of American households that
pay no income tax to the federal government at all,
and you have a permanent and underclass that is being
paid for with food, housing, healthcare, education, everything that they
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need to the level where if you tried to buy
somebody out of that benefit plan into the private sector,
they've got to get an opening job for sixty thousand
dollars a year. And so it's better for them to
not work and live in the lifestyle where they make
a choice. They don't have to work, because if they
come out and they get a job, they change their
lifestyle not at all, but they've got to put forty
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hours in somewhere. Now, these are the choices that we
have made available to people.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Why would government has done that, Why Congress has done that?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Why would we have a pursuit of happiness and we
can just sit on our butt and have it come
to us.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I always love that.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Not everybody satisfied with that, Michael. There's still is a
lot of people who are working. The problem is those
of us that are working are now forced to give
fifty percent of everything that we earn back into the
tax system to pay for those who don't.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
You want to know how civil war comes?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, and this notion that both have to work, that
was beautiful because you don't really gain much, but the
government does.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
They can text two incomes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I might add too that you know, at some point,
if we don't solve this and moving forward, which clearly
we're not going to, these numbers get worse with time.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
They do, and the reason for that is we have
watched in our lifetime the diminishment of a fundamental principle
of economy. And this is the sort of stuff that
Bonson talks about, but very few other people do. The
fundamental economic drive of an economy is one. People are
good for business, but there's a caveat to that. People
(15:39):
accepting personal responsibility are really good for business. But if
I know I can lay off my responsibility on excuses
based on envy because someone has something I don't have,
and I take the Marxist pill that says everything has
to be equal before it can be fair, and I'll participate.
Then everything goes to You know what, that's where we
(16:00):
are right now, and that's what this Congress. That's why
it smells so much in that building. That's why it
stinks in every emanation that you hear coming from the
United States Capitol because they're peddling us a boatload.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And you know what, Well, now you're into my biggest,
my biggest idea. You know, like when you leave the beach,
there's a shower before you get to where your car is.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You can rinse off off the sand.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We need a shower outside the doors of Congress and
we can all be clean after we've been inside there.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I will go overnight inside the district and no, I
won't drink.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The water either.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
When I go in there.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Time to overtime, we go with the CEO of the
American Policy Round Table and the host of Public Square
on the dysfunction that we call what once was a
great republic.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Hey, this is Jeff from Tulsa, Oklahm.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
And my morning show is your Morning Show with Michael Deljorno.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hi, I'm Michael. We'd love to have you listen every
weekday morning to your morning show live. Even take us
along with you on the drive to work. We can
be heard on great radio stations like one oh four
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and News Talk five fifty k FYI and Phoenix, Arizona.
Love to be a part of your morning routine. But
we're always grateful you're here. Now, enjoy the podcast. This
(17:19):
is the show that belongs to you, and we're on
or to serve. This is your morning show. House will
vote today, I presume, and reopen the government. The President
will sign it immediately, But how soon before things get
back to normal. Delays and cancelations and airports across the
country are only going to get warse especially as we
go from six percent to ten percent. And that's mostly
at the forty busiest airports and hubbs. Venezuela mobilizing its
(17:41):
military as a US aircraft carrier Gerald R.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Ford arrives in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And millions are dealing with below average temperatures, especially in
the eastern section of the country. We had that earlier
this week, although we're starting to warm up here in
the middle of the country. And we're visiting with David
Sonati and I want to start with Joe Rogan. Quote
U picture. We're having a party and all of a
sudden the doorbell rings and someone who has entered the party,
and that person is Joe Rogan. He's finally figured out
(18:10):
the trajectory of all this division and all this hate
Civil war.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating, like whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
You want people to die that you disagree with?
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Like, where are.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We right now?
Speaker 10 (18:24):
On the scale of one to two Civil War? Where
are we are we at seven? Because I thought we
were five. Other were like four, four or five. But
after Charlie Kirk, now I'm like, oh, we might be
like seven, might be like seven.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm on a golf course, you know, just trying to
work out my game, and David turns to me goes, Michael,
it's eighteen fifty. You got ten years to solve the
Civil War. Go I'm trying to solve my steep swing,
and he gives me solve the Civil War, which I
found to be a historic intellectual a wonderful exercise. And
(19:03):
if you've studied history, or if you've at least googled it,
chat gpted it, you would see there were moral issues,
intent issues, were all men created and being treated equally?
There were states rights issues, agricultural issues, there were a
lot of issues, and it was I finally looked at
(19:23):
him after about four or five holes, I can't solve it,
and we didn't, and we had it. Okay, Well where
are we now, which is why we started the podcast
eighteen fifteen And I remember I came up with the
name because of your first question, eighteen fifteen you got
ten years to solve the Civil War from happening, And
I thought, well, we got to make it a place though,
so we called it eighteen fifty Main Street. Well, here's
Joe Rogan arriving at the same place. Maybe with his influence,
(19:46):
more Americans will take seriously, we are the divided states
of America, quite frankly, an urban divide versus the rest
of America. The differences between the left and the right
are much greater than they've ever been. There's a lot brewing. Well,
you were the originator of the question three years ago.
(20:07):
I'd say about a seven is right in terms of
the trajectory.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, and it just depends, Michael. These things if, as
you've noted regularly, they come out of nowhere. But then
you look back and go, wow, it was obvious in
plain sight, Like, for example, at what point in time
will a confrontation over the immigration policy break out into
urban warfare between federal troops and locals at whatever level
(20:34):
locals may be. At what point in time will a
mayor commission his police department to do battle with the
feds or the.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Gangs themselves or the game cartels?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Exactly, how will the cartels choose to make their stand
here on our land right and mobilize that activity? And
how many of those outbreaks there? And one thing leads
to the next leads to the next. There were people
that were actually dueling in Congress at that period of time,
members of Congress killing each other in duels. There were
members of Congress walking across the aisle and beating each
(21:07):
other mercilessly, almost to death. I mean, this kind of
violence is not uncommon to our country. But let's take
a big step back. This is not historic inevitability. This
is a systematic pattern. When people loses their core identity,
they lose their character. When they lose their shared character,
(21:27):
then they are no longer able to work together in
communion and in harmony, and they break into full discord.
Now we shortened that whole equation down to lose God
lose man. Because there was a time in our country
when people believed that their source wasn't the government, their
source was their creator, that same creator that's mentioned four
times in the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
And since we didn't look to.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
The government to solve our problems for us, that we
actually believe there was a God and we would answer
to him, but not only answer to him, but that
he would provide for us, that he brought us here
for a reason and for a purpose, and that his
destiny was bigger than our politics.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
That sense of reality gave us a sense.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Of both initiative and security, and we looked at each
other differently. We looked at each other differently, and people say, oh, yes,
but you had slavery. Of course we had slavery. It
was the number one issue in everybody's face. Every time
you held up the mirror, that's what you saw, because
we couldn't come to our full identity until we've dealt
with that issue. But the issue was created equal, not
(22:30):
made equal. And the problem is we've now turned to
our government to be the great equalizer. That's the Marxist
trick that happened in the eighteen hundreds, and now it's
on our doorstep.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I have in my notes how do we avoid this?
How do we find our way out of this mess?
And I just wrote two five zero, the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of a document. This document could get
us out of this mess. And that's why I think
there's going to be a spiritual and human tugg a
war over this document in the coming year.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And that's why The Atlantic is already publishing and relentlessly
every week coming out with another article to blast the
founding reality of what we just described, which is that
individuals are made in the image of God and are
purposed by God, and that purpose prevails over everything else.
That's the fundamental reality of what John Locke was contributing
(23:24):
to this process in the sixteen hundreds, and Montesque is
doing the same, these philosophical fathers that the Founders lead into.
But they read Ephesians to attend they knew their Bible.
They didn't need Montesque in Locke to tell them they
were already connected to the soil.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So now it's twenty twenty five. People don't know created
equal versus made equal differences. They don't know God anymore.
They don't respect God. They certainly don't know that we
were all created in Christ Jesus. We are His workmanship,
created to do good. I mean, they don't have any
of this. How do you get out of it?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Well, you start by teaching your kids the twenty third psalm.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. In
other words, the government's not my shepherd. God God put
me here for a reason of purpose. That single idea
alone breaks the chain. I am here with a transcendent
purpose that is bigger than humanity and bigger than government.
(24:20):
And there is a benevolent, loving God who cares about
my future. That's used to be what we taught in
our inner cities, Michael, And where is the church? Where
are believing people? And look, I'll expand it, where is
the Judeo Christian ethic?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
And the church and the synagogue?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Explaining that humans are not just the sum of their parts,
not just cosmic accidents that the government's got the shepherd
and steel. No, this is the core reality. It's identity.
Because from identity flows national character. And without national character,
General Washington made it very clear from the battlefield. The
victorious General said, the single most important thing now must
(25:00):
do to become a nation in seventeen eighty three at
the victory point of the war is to develop our
national character.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I know we've had this conversation before, but I don't
know that we've ever had it on your morning show.
We only got a minute. But when you think of
the Declaration of Independence, if I had to pick one thing,
self evident truth, imagine in that time those people in
that room what self evident truth meant versus the non
(25:31):
existence of self evident truth today? Is there a way
to do this without rediscovering our self evident truth?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Introducing the word truth actually is a hostile moment because yeah,
well they're all playing conscious pilot. What's truth? That was
not the case in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We got a real mess, and when Joe Rogan sees it,
you know itself, it's pretty apparent to many. The question
becomes like, eighteen fifty can we stop it before it's
too late?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Oh, it's kind of what we're about.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Right, Well, it requires a change of mind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
David Zanati will are we getting a bonus appearance tomorrow? Sure?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Sure temperature is steady. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
More with David Zanatti tomorrow and in your favorite David
Bonsen will be here too. We'll probably run some of
this by our theologian economists as well. All right, I
hope we went beyond just the headlines to further understanding
and meaning. This shutdown never should have happened. But then again,
we shouldn't be thirty seven trillion dollars a debt and
Obamacare never should have happened. The government may reopen, but
(26:41):
have our eyes opened? Tough question to answer, but I
pray they do, David, Thanks for helping us get them open.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Thanks, Michael. All right, if you're just.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Waking up, we expect the House to pass the bill
and end the shutdown this afternoon and the President to
sign it shortly after two.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sammy Trio has our top story.
Speaker 11 (27:02):
Overnight, the House Rules Committee voted along party lines to
advance a government funding deal that's already passed in the Senate.
The majority GOP committee did not adopt any amendments to
the bill that would extend federal health care subsidies. The
funding package now makes its way to the House, where
a final vote is expected before the end of the day.
I'm Tammy Trio.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The Supreme Court is extending an order allowing the Trump
administration to withhold full SNAP payments.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
Last week, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson issued an administrative stay
that blocked a lower court order requiring the administration to
make the payments. Tuesday's ruling extends that stay through Thursday.
This comes as a spending bill that would reopen the
federal government is set to be voted on in the
House after it was approved by the Senate earlier this week.
The bill would provide full funding for SNAP benefits through
next September and keeps most of the government running on
(27:48):
a short term basis through January thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm Marknefield, Hungry Democrat, constituents and holiday travel. That's what
really ended this. Venezuela is lizing its military. Why well,
the USS gerald Ford has arrived in the Caribbean.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
The Navy says the USS gerald R Ford is in
the region. Meanwhile, in response to rising tensions with the US,
Venezuela's defense minister is announcing the country will mobilize troops
and carry out exercises this week. The Trumble administration has
said the recent military built up in the Caribbean is
part of a campaign against drug trafficking. The US military
has carried out strikes on several.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Alleged drug boats in recent months. I'm Jim Roop.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Pop stars Sabrina Carpenter. She is set to star in
and produced a musical movie inspired by Lewis Carroll's Alice
in Wonderland. Universal Pictures is inc to deal with Carpenter
for the untitled production and it will make her It
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Today's day that ninety nine percent of us celebrate because
(28:54):
of that one topic we don't like on our pizza.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
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is eighty years old today. But it's your birthday. Happy birthday.
We're so glad you were born and thanks for waking
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well, the big.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Airlines are warning the cancelations will continue even after the
government reopens.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And yesterday was a mess, today is expected to be worse. Rory.
This is not good news. They're saying, is that this
is not like flipping a switch.
Speaker 13 (32:01):
That getting all these airlines fully operational and getting all
these air traffic control systems fully operational is going to
take a minute or two. And you know, we're all saying, well,
when is it going to get back to normal. Well,
it's not going to get back to normal until the
first week of December and when we're through the Thanksgiving
holiday travel. But so we're trying to get back to
normal in a time when air travel is very unnormal.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I guess, so abnormal is the word.
Speaker 13 (32:26):
So we are expecting the Transportation Secretary to give us
some more details about how they can bring up this
flight capacity as they get more evidence that shows that
safety is improving within the system. Yesterday, Secretary Duffy described
how some of the conversations between air traffic and pilots
is got a little lax and a little too casual,
(32:48):
that sometimes planes got a little too close, either on
the ground or in the air, So they want to
see safety data first then they'll start talking about increasing
that airline capacity.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Again, my head does the emoji explosion when I think
Thanksgiving Christmas travel. What became of everybody that had booked flights?
And will those flights? Have they been canceled? Will they
be restored before they have to be canceled? What if
you were going on today, how could you book a
flight for Thanksgiving? Would would be better off waiting for
(33:21):
the last minute? And then what would the price be
I mean just you know, yeah, I mean I think
to some degree. You and I talked about this, I
think on Monday, and we were like, well, it wouldn't
be instantaneous, could it be leveled off and improved by Thanksgiving? Well? Yes,
if you bought your ticket like a train in the
old days, right before you get on, I suspect you're
(33:42):
going to.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Feel the ripples of this long through New Year's well.
Speaker 13 (33:47):
Right, and then you get the add in things like Okay,
we're flying to get on our cruise and we have
to be at this airport at this time and get
there at the port at that time. You know, a
lot of these travel plans are part of bigger plans,
and it can also be different goal to manage, because yeah,
a lot of that business travel can be turned into
a zoom call instead, but a lot of that other
family travel and holiday travel has very specific deadlines to
(34:09):
get to weddings, funerals.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, they run the gamut. So yeah, it's a
stressful time.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Indeed, finish the lyric I'll be home for I don't
know when right, but I get home for Christmas. Halsdale
roy O'Neil. Great reporting as always, we'll talk again tomorrow.
I want to finish with an email kind of wraps
up and ties a bow on our whole hour long conversation. Michael,
my wife and I had Obamacare since twenty twenty two.
(34:36):
I retired in early twenty twenty. I'm now sixty five
and I met Acare. My wife is sixty three. I
signed her up two days ago for the twenty twenty
six Bronze Obamacare at two seventy nine a month. The
subsidy is about seven hundred and twenty five dollars a month.
All I hear is the Affordable Care Act premiums will
skyrocket for everyone.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Not true.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The debate is over the Biden extensions due to COVID. Well,
that's the steroids part I talk about, And that was
the Democrats, and they set it up with an expiration date.
And now that the expiration date they set is here,
they want to shut down the government. Those of us
who stay under the four hundred percent still get the
tax subsidies as before. I estimated twenty twenty six AGI
(35:16):
at sixty five thousand dollars. The past two years we've
had to pay back most of the subsidies. Well, that's
how I know. I got twenty seconds. How can I
do this? But that's the trick of the game. If
you can get all your subsidies up front and get
a great premium rate, but you're going to get a
surprise with them without congress if you make too much money,
(35:36):
so it becomes a you better be really good at
guessing and predicting what your income will be because every
penny over you will be taxed. Dear leon Or, as
he's suggesting, paying back those subsidies. Great email, Keep coming,
Michael di atiheartmedia dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We're all in this together. This is your morning show
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