Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Tabitha Carr.
Founder of Good Girl Chocolate, shares her journey of overcoming health challenges and creating a brand that blends science, simplicity, and flavor. She discusses her struggles with high blood pressure, weight management, and hormonal imbalances, which led her to explore natural health solutions. Dr. Carr explains how Good Girl Chocolate is crafted to be vegan, gluten-free, soy-free, and made with organic ingredients, catering to various dietary lifestyles. The brand has gained national recognition, being featured in Grammy and Oscar nominee gift bags. She also addresses the misconceptions surrounding vegan products and how she ensures her chocolate remains rich and delicious. Beyond business, Dr. Carr talks about her passion for empowering women, sharing insights from her contribution to the book Open Your G.I.F.T.S., where she discusses overcoming self-doubt and embracing personal power. She reflects on how her personal health journey inspired her to create a brand that supports wellness without compromising taste. Her story is a testament to perseverance, self-discovery, and the impact of making healthier choices. This episode is filled with inspiration, health-conscious insights, and entrepreneurial wisdom for anyone looking to turn their struggles into success.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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show started. My next guest is Dr Tapitha car Indeed,
she's the leading authority in the field of women's health
and wellness. She's the founder of the vegan based Good
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Girl Chocolate, a best selling author after high school, let's
talk about all this and continue to battle high blood
pressure and blood where all nobody in the black community
or the minority community. High blood pressure is always out there,
and sugar and balances. Doctor Tapitha decided not only to
focus on her diet and desire to contribute positive energies
to community, but through studies with the focus on women's
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health and wellness, she created Good Girl Chocolate to thrive
at the intersection of science, simplicity, and flavor. Good Girl
Chocolate has been featured in the Grammy's Gift Giving Sweet
and select Oscar nominee gift bags, and was a twenty
twenty grant recipient of Beyonce's Big Good Foundation.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Our interviews about I'm following.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Your dreams that leads to a healthy lifestyle and becoming
a leading authority in the field of women's health and fitness.
Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. For the very first time,
I feel like I've known her because we've had some
technical glitches.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Doctor Tabitha car and d how you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Doing good morning? Good morning, I am fantastic. How are
you doing well?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm doing good, you know, in some of your chocolate.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I was kind of you know, one thing I've
learned now, where you eat something that good, you shouldn't
like immediately going to introducing someone. So in between between
certain sentences, I was just getting that nice taste was
just rushing through my mouth. And so I want to
apologize to anybody going Richarde doesn't sound like he normally
say else he introduces people.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I was enjoying good girl chocolate. That was all
in my mouth. It was all in my system, and
I'm having a good time. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I apologize to everybody who's watching and to everybody who's listening.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I a subcomme to Good Girl chocolate, and that's a
good thing. By the way.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I love it. I love it. I love it. Hey,
you're not the first one, and you are not the
first one to taste Good Girl chocolate and absolutely loved it.
I'm thrilled that you like it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, I am, you know, thank you for sending me something.
This is another packaging that she sent me. But I
was dining on this because the whole brownie batter and this.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is the sweetest item that you make right here?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Correct it is? It is. I started out making seventy
percent dark chocolate, and that's not your average grocery story
dark chocolate because folks can claim dark chocolate and have
sixty percent sugar in it. So I have real seventy
percent dark chocolate. And what I found is some people
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like a semisweet, some people like are really sweet. So
I go from seventy percent all the way down to
thirty four percent cacao, so I can bless everyone's palate.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Absolutely. You know the whole thing about it. When you
put the word vegan in front of anything.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
People tend to run off or tend to think it
doesn't taste the same, or it doesn't it's not going
to taste as good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And right now this is like, this is vegan based,
gluten free, dairy free, and sore free. Talk about being
able to deliver.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Something I'm eating right now that tastes so very good,
but also overcoming the stigma that if you go vegan,
it will not taste as good.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Here's the thing. I have been on a different diet
like every single day of my life. I was sixteen
when I was put on my very first blood pressure
pil and I was a woman's size twenty twenty two.
So I've been on the keto diet, the cabbage soup diet,
raw plant based pescatin, everything you can think of. So
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I actually wanted to create a chocolate that would basically
fit into everyone's healthy lifestyle. So what it actually is
is a plant based chocolate that supports all healthy lifestyles.
You can be vegan, you can be paleo, you can
be whole thirty. It's soy free, it's gluten free. For
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those who can't tolerate gluten or ciliacs is soy free.
It's non GMO, it's made with organic ingredients, it's single origin,
fair trade, and it's being to bar. So this is
about really spreading this to everyone, not just vegans.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, the thing about it is that I'm gonna be
honest with you. You know when I talk about it,
I'm a meat eater. I'm a guy who goes out there.
I have fallen in with product like beyond Meat. I
I love enjoy my beyond the burger. Now they've got
Beyond mea making. So I'm excited about trying that out.
But then we talk about vegan and you talk about vegetarian.
So you know, I really want to get a clarification
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cause I ran into a friend of mine and she
went over to Jr's barbecue, and she said, well, I'm
a vegetarian. So what is the difference between a vegan
and a vegetarian or is there or is there a difference?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
There is a difference, And I first want to start
off by saying I identify with being plant based. So
a vegan is truly a person who supports animals. I
mean it's a movement. So they don't eat anything as
it relates to animal products, they don't wear anything as
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it to relates to animal products. They are true animal activists.
They don't even consume honey.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Interesting thing about your brand, you know, I know we're
talking about the Good Girl chocolate brand right now.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But you as a person that's always been.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
About uplifting individuals, especially empowering female Either of the book
Believe in twenty seventeen with a Girl Kim Cole, actress,
Fame of Living Single, about Open Your Gifts g I
F t S twenty two lessons on Finding and Embracing
your personal power. We find so much that is so
much in the forefront of conversation, right, personal power, leading
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with your gifts, leading with your passions.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What is the book about?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Why did you feel the need to do a book
and then you did a book with a did the
book with a very very funny actress named Kim Cole's
So I wanted to know the basis of your whole
structure of empowering people. Why is it so important to
empower because, like you said, at the age of sixteen,
you own blood pressure pills, So right there, that means
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that you are the point in your life where you
need to be empowered both physically mentally. It had to
be an understanding that it was all right. You were
beautiful as you are. Nobody needed to tell you how
you look, to be special and things like that. So
talk about the whole empowerment and embracing your personal personal power.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I tell you what this is actually the book right here.
I don't know if you can see.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It, but I exists, and it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Was It was so important, And Kim is a dear,
dear friend of mine, and it was so important to
write this chapter because I know there are women out
there that are going through the same things that I
went through. And the name of my my chapter is
about triumph. And the name of the chapter is are
you ready to free Yourself? And let me just read
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you the first sentence. It says, I'm free. I'm finally free.
That's two sentences. Actually, are you ready to free yourself?
And triumph from weight challenges, from hormone challenges, from fibroids,
from cysts, from lack of energy, from blood pressure challenges,
from blood sugar challenges. These are all the things that
affected me. I remember that day when I was at
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the doctor's office and she said that she was putting
me on a blood pressure pill, and I asked her why,
you know, why do I have to take medicine? I'm
sixteen And she said, so you don't have a stroke
at the age of thirty. And you know, when I
look back, you know, I come from the South, and
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we come from you know, a family of just rich
cooking rich foods. You know, we cook with fat back
and pork and bacon and things like that. And when
I look back, there was an opportunity there to figure
out why was a sixteen year old having blood pressure problems.
You know, it couldn't be clogged dotteries. You know, I
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wasn't old enough. But because things did not change, by
the time I was thirty, I was on three different
blood pressure pills. And when you are a large child,
when you're getting teased about your weight, being almost three
hundred pounds, being on blood pressure pills, that affects you
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and that that just carries on into your adulthood. So
the self doubt, the lack of confidence, all of that
carried on into my adulthood. I majored in pre med
I ended up getting a master's in health administration, but
I did not go into the medical field because I
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felt like a hypocrite. I felt like someone, you know,
I can't tell anyone how to eat and how to live,
and here I am three hundred pounds. So I actually
ended up working for a technology company for eleven years
before I really started having panic attacks and hormone problems.
And it was the hormone problems and being on a
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cycle for three months that really really made me realize
and say, Okay, enough is enough. I have got to
deal with this because I want kids. And my grandmother,
my mother, my aunt, I had cousins all have hysterectomies
before the age of forty and they had kids, you know,
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and so of course they just followed their doctor's orders
and you know, telling them, Okay, we need to have
a hysterectomy. But I didn't want my options taken away
from me, and that's why I said, Okay, I need
to go back to the roots. I need to go
back to natural health. And within thirty days, because my
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doctor basically suggested to me surgery or more medication to
fix my hormone problems, and within thirty days of natural
health and researching it myself, I stopped the cycle. And
I ended up losing over eighty pounds and that's when
I actually went back to school to study nature apathy
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because there are so many of women in our community.
I'm suffering from the estrogen dominance, suffering from the fibroids,
the cysts, the blood pressure, the blood sugar, and I
wanted to let women know through this book that there
is hope, there's another way. Now, that doesn't mean that
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you can one hundred percent get off all of your medication.
Fortunately enough I was able to, but it took some work,
it took exercise. I mean, a complete lifestyle change for me.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So when if somebody says, okay, a complete lifestyle change,
and now, how do we tie good Girl Chocolate into that?
Because when people hear the word good Girl chocolate, they
hear sweets, they hear fact, they hear weight gain, all
those things. And so that's why I wanted people to
hear your story. Because when we go on these journeys
and I'm able to do all my show money making conversation,
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I like to be able to tie things together and
why there is a purpose behind the actual creation of
this product. Now, let's talk about the evolution of Good
Girl Chocolate. From the conversation we just had about your
journey of being a sixteen year old nearly three hundred pounds,
being bully lead, being ostracized, and then your family history
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with all your relatives nearly an age of forty and
you also wanted to have a normal life.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Talk about that, and then into Goo Girl chocolate.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And I think the journey of our conversation would have
a certain motivational tone to it as well as a
product that we all should buy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Are all considered by.
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Speaker 3 (12:53):
Absolutely so, like I said, I have been on a
diet every single day of my life, a different diet
every year of my life, and one year, over ten
years ago, I decided to go raw. And of course,
when you're on a raw diet, you know you don't
eat meat unless you're gonna eat it raw. You know,
you don't eat cheese and dairy and things like that.
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So it was a truly raw diet, and I said, okay,
you know I need something sweet to eat, you know,
to really wash down all the raw food.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm telling you that those raw diets they are good
in theory, but you got to have something to give
rid of that taste.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Thank you, Yes you do. So I started making raw chocolate.
I mean seriously, I would melt down cocoa butter at
one hundred and twelve degrees because when you dehydrate your
food on a raw diet, you have to keep it
at that one hundred and twelve degree temperature, so it
still is a raw food. But I would melt down
my cocoa butter, you know, mixing my coco powders and
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coconut oils, and I would use organic raw a god
and all of this to mix up this chocolate. I
brought bought equipment to mold the chocolate and it just
started from there. And I kept this chocolate to myself
for years. My mom loved it, and she was like,
you know what, you need to spread this chocolate to
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the world. Let her run chod. Okay, So back in
twenty seventeen, I went to the Texas Women's conference and
applied to present in front of QBC and the food
buyer loved the chocolate and she said it was actually
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like the best chocolate or plant based chocolate that she
had ever tasted. And that was my confirmation that I'm
onto something. I ended up quitting my technology job and
started my own business, and by the time twenty eighteen
rolled around, I was online. I have my own packaging
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and I was selling Good Girl Chocolate. But it's called
good Girl chocolate because you can eat it every single
day and still say you've been good. So it's about
clean eating. It doesn't have the hydrogenated oils in it.
The sugar that I use is coconut sugar. It doesn't
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have table sugar in it. It's free from gluten, it's
free from soy, it's single origin, it's fair trade, so
the workers are treated equally, and we make it ourselves.
So it takes four days. That brownie batter bar that
you're eating, it takes four days to make that chocolate
because we actually roast the beans ourselves and we put
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it into our grinders and we grind the beans, we
grind the.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Coked Keep Talk Georgie's Chocolate. Keep Talking Good Girl flyund
George's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Come on that that's right, and it is the best
chocolate ever. And let me tell you if that one
is too sweet for you, then I'll put you in
the semi suite. I love being able to figure out
what people like from the seventy percent dark to the
fifty two percent dark to the thirty four percent dark
and just really enjoying chocolate. You know, we have one
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life to live, and I believe in the eighty twenty room. Anyway,
you know, you eat clean eighty percent of your your
your life, but that twenty percent because we have birthdays,
we have Christmases, we have Thanksgiving, and let me tell you,
I get down during those days.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But to this clean doctor taviit I just had gallbladder
sy surgery.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, my gallbladders removement World forty.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of course that's when you usually the symptoms of having
a gallbladder issue.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now me, eating Good Girl chocolate should be a good.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thing, right, So let me tell you this. Everything and moderation,
and as a natural pathic doctor, I do have to
tell you when you do not have have a gallbladder,
it's harder for you to digest fats and that's why
for all of my clients I recommend a food enzyme
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that has life paste in it because life paste actually
helps you digest fats. But everything, no matter what you're eating,
whether it's the beyond sausage or meat that we're talking about,
you know, eat everything in moderation. Just because it's plant
based doesn't mean that you should be eating a whole
wagon full of it. A potato chip is plant based,
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but you shouldn't eat the whole high a big bag
of them, right right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But and that's me, And I've said I'm one of
those people I eat out of control. Like when you
said we shall you can eat this every day? I went, okay,
But you need to get the whole story before you
start just jumping into the wagon and having a party
and destroying all the good things that can happen in
your life by misinterpreting what you are trying to say
in this interview, or what anybody's ever trying to say,
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is about my iteration, weight loss is by moderation. Living
an uncomfortable life is moderation. They always tell you, don't overdrink,
don't overpart it, don't overdo it, don't over exercise.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Can leads to knee injuries, pulled muscles.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You know, people out there they want to become young
in the day by going in a gym and trying
to run a mile when they only should be walking
a mile instead of running a mile. And so the
whole purpose of when I look at the whole platform
of what you've done with Good Girl Chocolate is tied
to good health and a good healthy lifestyle with moderation
and a product that allows you to eat. I've never
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used the word healthy and mislead people, but this is
a naturally sweetened it is vegan based, and it's free
of gluten, their in soy, and it's made with our GMOs.
That's pretty good to me, doctor.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Thank you. And I want to piggyback on what you
just said, don't use the term healthy, and I don't.
I don't say, oh, I have a healthy chocolate. What
I do is I say I have a chocolate that
supports this lifestyle, that's free of the gluten, the soy,
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you know, the dairy, supporting the vegan, the paleo and
the whole thirty lifestyle. And it's sweetened with coconut sugar,
which is a lower glycemic sugar. And while we're at it,
we also have sugar free. One of the things that
my my diabetics or my ketos told me, they said, hey,
you know, doctor T, we really want something free of sugar.
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I understand you have the coconut sugar in it, but
we want something sugar free. So we also have a
sugar free chocolate that has xylotol from Birch, which is
the best of the best when it comes to alternative
sweeteners for the diabetic A community and for the keto community.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Now you're based in Oklahoma, and the Good Girl Chocolate
is based in Oklahoma. You just opened to a Rick
and more in the Pinch Square.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Mall in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And now, doctor T, let's talk about some good things
that have happened that made you smile. You know, Beyonce
when say she came to your rescue but bore her
brand really came in and put some love on you. Really,
it's not really about the amount of money she gave you.
It's the brand association, don't you agree?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Absolutely, It's just and first of all that it just
felt so good. I didn't receive an email or anything.
It was posted on social media. Who the grant recipients
were and I saw my chocolate, and let me tell
you that I think I cried. I'm serious, I was
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crying because it was just so.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I felt so much overwhelming joy from seeing that and
knowing that I'm onto something, I'm doing something right.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You know, when I was invited to the Grammys Gifting Suite,
you know, they tasted it first and said, hey, we
really don't like healthy chocolate, but your chocolate is awesome,
your energy is great. We definitely want you here. It's
just been confirmation after confirmation and being the first permanently
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black owned business in my local mall. Oh man, you
I'm just I'm just full of joy. I'm very very
very grateful, and I'm just excited.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, let's let's go and talk about you know, being
the first of anything is tied to pressure because you
can't be the first to close. You know, you're the first,
So that means that you have to endure you know,
internal mental, sometimes depression. You have to deal with being
in an environment that people can surround you positive people
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and also surround yourself with people who understand your dream.
Talk about your network of people who support you and
also who have been to get to where you are
today with Good Girl Chocolate.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You know, I tell you I would be remiss if
I didn't say my parents first when it comes to support.
They are my number one supporters. As a matter of fact,
right now, it's so hard to find people to work
right now, and my parents, who are retired, have stepped
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up and have been helping me in the store, you
know this past week. Keep things together. But I believe
your network is very important. You know, there's that saying
your network is your net worth, but it really really
is about building relationships. I am an alpha Kappa alpha woman,
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and you know I have a network from my sorority sisters,
you know, who came together and supported me my first
you know, week open. You already know my good friend
Kim Cole's you know, she has definitely opened up some amazing,
amazing doors for me. But it's really about relationships. You know.
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I think your character and who you are is very
important and people are going to see that. People are
going to see that uniqueness about you. And I'm a believer.
I believe in God. God is first in my life
and I've just been so blessed with people who love me,
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people who have embraced me, people who have helped me
get to where I am today. I am truly grateful.
I went through the Oklahoma City Thunder Accelerator program here
in Oklahoma City, and I came out with my first investor.
And it was that investor who helped me because I
had to totally redo this store in Pennsquirre Mall from
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drop ceilings to electrical to equipment. That's fifteen thousand dollars
of peace. So all of that costs money. And I'm
just excited. I'm excited about the growth. I'm excited about
the wholesale opportunities that are out there that have approached me.
It's just an exciting time. And it's just it's truly
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about relationships. And I'm excited about sitting here with you,
talking to you and on your show. And I appreciate
the opportunity and thank you so much from the bottom
of my heart.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, thank you for this good girl, Chocolic. First of all,
it's gonna be real. It's a selfish motivation.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Here. You give me some good. I gotta talk to
you about how good it is.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And it's really I can't wait to get in this
little this little bag of tricks right here, the little
covered with those pecan nuts.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
This is going to be my favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Let me tell you that pecan fudge. I don't know
if we can even let you dig on it, if
you can dig in on it on the show, but
that pecan fudge truffle that's in that box, that's probably
going to be your favorite.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well I know, but you know, a rich old Rushan,
you know, im morsels in moderation.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I'm working on this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I can't immediately bust open this little package here, especially
liberity just wrapping up surgery, but more importantly, just I
wanted to tell your story. I just you know, and
there's always a great story. There's always the product's fantastic.
Let's let's move past that. But what made that product
a reality? And the reality is through personal triumph. A
reality is trying to change not only your lives, but
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other people lives through your empowerment. And it started with
your book. It started when he was sixteen years old.
It started with you not accepting the fact that this
is going to be your life and you didn't want
it to be your life. It started through your education.
It started through you realizing that the way you look
was limited in your dreams and you had to change that.
But more importantly, doctor Carr, your product is amazing. Don't
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let the word vegan run you away from this product.
It is what it is, but it's for you. It
tastes good. Everybody knows I'm a dessert nut. I am
a foodie. When I say something is good, and you
should stamp that as a reality. I do not allow
people to come on my show and then, you know,
eat their food and then go around the corner and
spit it out. That's not how it works on Money
(26:13):
Making Conversation. This is fantastic and I will be dying
on this this weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Thank you very much for coming on those show, Doctor Carr.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for the
opportunity I have enjoyed this time. I love talking about
health and wellness. I love talking about good Girl chocolate,
and I love to inspire and empower women.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
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she's the leading authority in the field of women's health
and wellness. She's the founder of the vegan based Good
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Girl Chocolate, a best selling author after high school, let's
talk about all this and continue to battle high blood
pressure and blood where all nobody in the black community
or the minority community. High blood pressure is always out there,
and sugar and balances. Doctor Tapitha decided not only to
focus on her diet and desire to contribute positive energies
to community, but through studies with the focus on women's
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health and wellness, she created Good Girl Chocolate to thrive
at the intersection of science, simplicity, and flavor. Good Girl
Chocolate has been featured in the Grammy's Gift Giving Sweet
and select Oscar nominee gift bags, and was a twenty
twenty grant recipient of Beyonce's Big Good Foundation.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Our interviews about I'm following.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Your dreams that leads to a healthy lifestyle and becoming
a leading authority in the field of women's health and fitness.
Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. For the very first time,
I feel like I've known her because we've had some
technical glitches.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Doctor Tabitha car and d how you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Doing good morning? Good morning, I am fantastic. How are
you doing well?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm doing good, you know, in some of your chocolate.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I was kind of you know, one thing I've
learned now, where you eat something that good, you shouldn't
like immediately going to introducing someone. So in between between
certain sentences, I was just getting that nice taste was
just rushing through my mouth. And so I want to
apologize to anybody going Richarde doesn't sound like he normally
say else he introduces people.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I was enjoying good girl chocolate. That was all
in my mouth. It was all in my system, and
I'm having a good time. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I apologize to everybody who's watching and to everybody who's listening.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I a subcomme to Good Girl chocolate, and that's a
good thing. By the way.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I love it. I love it. I love it. Hey,
you're not the first one, and you are not the
first one to taste Good Girl chocolate and absolutely loved it.
I'm thrilled that you like it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, I am, you know, thank you for sending me something.
This is another packaging that she sent me. But I
was dining on this because the whole brownie batter and this.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is the sweetest item that you make right here?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Correct it is? It is. I started out making seventy
percent dark chocolate, and that's not your average grocery story
dark chocolate because folks can claim dark chocolate and have
sixty percent sugar in it. So I have real seventy
percent dark chocolate. And what I found is some people
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like a semisweet, some people like are really sweet. So
I go from seventy percent all the way down to
thirty four percent cacao, so I can bless everyone's palate.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Absolutely. You know the whole thing about it. When you
put the word vegan in front of anything.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
People tend to run off or tend to think it
doesn't taste the same, or it doesn't it's not going
to taste as good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And right now this is like, this is vegan based,
gluten free, dairy free, and sore free. Talk about being
able to deliver.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Something I'm eating right now that tastes so very good,
but also overcoming the stigma that if you go vegan,
it will not taste as good.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Here's the thing. I have been on a different diet
like every single day of my life. I was sixteen
when I was put on my very first blood pressure
pil and I was a woman's size twenty twenty two.
So I've been on the keto diet, the cabbage soup diet,
raw plant based pescatin, everything you can think of. So
(04:02):
I actually wanted to create a chocolate that would basically
fit into everyone's healthy lifestyle. So what it actually is
is a plant based chocolate that supports all healthy lifestyles.
You can be vegan, you can be paleo, you can
be whole thirty. It's soy free, it's gluten free. For
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those who can't tolerate gluten or ciliacs is soy free.
It's non GMO, it's made with organic ingredients, it's single origin,
fair trade, and it's being to bar. So this is
about really spreading this to everyone, not just vegans.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, the thing about it is that I'm gonna be
honest with you. You know when I talk about it,
I'm a meat eater. I'm a guy who goes out there.
I have fallen in with product like beyond Meat. I
I love enjoy my beyond the burger. Now they've got
Beyond mea making. So I'm excited about trying that out.
But then we talk about vegan and you talk about vegetarian.
So you know, I really want to get a clarification
(05:07):
cause I ran into a friend of mine and she
went over to Jr's barbecue, and she said, well, I'm
a vegetarian. So what is the difference between a vegan
and a vegetarian or is there or is there a difference?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
There is a difference, And I first want to start
off by saying I identify with being plant based. So
a vegan is truly a person who supports animals. I
mean it's a movement. So they don't eat anything as
it relates to animal products, they don't wear anything as
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it to relates to animal products. They are true animal activists.
They don't even consume honey.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Interesting thing about your brand, you know, I know we're
talking about the Good Girl chocolate brand right now.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But you as a person that's always been.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
About uplifting individuals, especially empowering female Either of the book
Believe in twenty seventeen with a Girl Kim Cole, actress,
Fame of Living Single, about Open Your Gifts g I
F t S twenty two lessons on Finding and Embracing
your personal power. We find so much that is so
much in the forefront of conversation, right, personal power, leading
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with your gifts, leading with your passions.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What is the book about?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Why did you feel the need to do a book
and then you did a book with a did the
book with a very very funny actress named Kim Cole's
So I wanted to know the basis of your whole
structure of empowering people. Why is it so important to
empower because, like you said, at the age of sixteen,
you own blood pressure pills, So right there, that means
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that you are the point in your life where you
need to be empowered both physically mentally. It had to
be an understanding that it was all right. You were
beautiful as you are. Nobody needed to tell you how
you look, to be special and things like that. So
talk about the whole empowerment and embracing your personal personal power.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I tell you what this is actually the book right here.
I don't know if you can see.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It, but I exists, and it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Was It was so important, And Kim is a dear,
dear friend of mine, and it was so important to
write this chapter because I know there are women out
there that are going through the same things that I
went through. And the name of my my chapter is
about triumph. And the name of the chapter is are
you ready to free Yourself? And let me just read
(07:30):
you the first sentence. It says, I'm free. I'm finally free.
That's two sentences. Actually, are you ready to free yourself?
And triumph from weight challenges, from hormone challenges, from fibroids,
from cysts, from lack of energy, from blood pressure challenges,
from blood sugar challenges. These are all the things that
affected me. I remember that day when I was at
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the doctor's office and she said that she was putting
me on a blood pressure pill, and I asked her why,
you know, why do I have to take medicine? I'm
sixteen And she said, so you don't have a stroke
at the age of thirty. And you know, when I
look back, you know, I come from the South, and
(08:16):
we come from you know, a family of just rich
cooking rich foods. You know, we cook with fat back
and pork and bacon and things like that. And when
I look back, there was an opportunity there to figure
out why was a sixteen year old having blood pressure problems.
You know, it couldn't be clogged dotteries. You know, I
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wasn't old enough. But because things did not change, by
the time I was thirty, I was on three different
blood pressure pills. And when you are a large child,
when you're getting teased about your weight, being almost three
hundred pounds, being on blood pressure pills, that affects you
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and that that just carries on into your adulthood. So
the self doubt, the lack of confidence, all of that
carried on into my adulthood. I majored in pre med
I ended up getting a master's in health administration, but
I did not go into the medical field because I
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felt like a hypocrite. I felt like someone, you know,
I can't tell anyone how to eat and how to live,
and here I am three hundred pounds. So I actually
ended up working for a technology company for eleven years
before I really started having panic attacks and hormone problems.
And it was the hormone problems and being on a
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cycle for three months that really really made me realize
and say, Okay, enough is enough. I have got to
deal with this because I want kids. And my grandmother,
my mother, my aunt, I had cousins all have hysterectomies
before the age of forty and they had kids, you know,
(10:03):
and so of course they just followed their doctor's orders
and you know, telling them, Okay, we need to have
a hysterectomy. But I didn't want my options taken away
from me, and that's why I said, Okay, I need
to go back to the roots. I need to go
back to natural health. And within thirty days, because my
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doctor basically suggested to me surgery or more medication to
fix my hormone problems, and within thirty days of natural
health and researching it myself, I stopped the cycle. And
I ended up losing over eighty pounds and that's when
I actually went back to school to study nature apathy
(10:47):
because there are so many of women in our community.
I'm suffering from the estrogen dominance, suffering from the fibroids,
the cysts, the blood pressure, the blood sugar, and I
wanted to let women know through this book that there
is hope, there's another way. Now, that doesn't mean that
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you can one hundred percent get off all of your medication.
Fortunately enough I was able to, but it took some work,
it took exercise. I mean, a complete lifestyle change for me.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So when if somebody says, okay, a complete lifestyle change,
and now, how do we tie good Girl Chocolate into that?
Because when people hear the word good Girl chocolate, they
hear sweets, they hear fact, they hear weight gain, all
those things. And so that's why I wanted people to
hear your story. Because when we go on these journeys
and I'm able to do all my show money making conversation,
(11:42):
I like to be able to tie things together and
why there is a purpose behind the actual creation of
this product. Now, let's talk about the evolution of Good
Girl Chocolate. From the conversation we just had about your
journey of being a sixteen year old nearly three hundred pounds,
being bully lead, being ostracized, and then your family history
(12:04):
with all your relatives nearly an age of forty and
you also wanted to have a normal life.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Talk about that, and then into Goo Girl chocolate.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And I think the journey of our conversation would have
a certain motivational tone to it as well as a
product that we all should buy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Are all considered by.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
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Speaker 3 (12:53):
Absolutely so, like I said, I have been on a
diet every single day of my life, a different diet
every year of my life, and one year, over ten
years ago, I decided to go raw. And of course,
when you're on a raw diet, you know you don't
eat meat unless you're gonna eat it raw. You know,
you don't eat cheese and dairy and things like that.
(13:16):
So it was a truly raw diet, and I said, okay,
you know I need something sweet to eat, you know,
to really wash down all the raw food.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm telling you that those raw diets they are good
in theory, but you got to have something to give
rid of that taste.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Thank you, Yes you do. So I started making raw chocolate.
I mean seriously, I would melt down cocoa butter at
one hundred and twelve degrees because when you dehydrate your
food on a raw diet, you have to keep it
at that one hundred and twelve degree temperature, so it
still is a raw food. But I would melt down
my cocoa butter, you know, mixing my coco powders and
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coconut oils, and I would use organic raw a god
and all of this to mix up this chocolate. I
brought bought equipment to mold the chocolate and it just
started from there. And I kept this chocolate to myself
for years. My mom loved it, and she was like,
you know what, you need to spread this chocolate to
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the world. Let her run chod. Okay, So back in
twenty seventeen, I went to the Texas Women's conference and
applied to present in front of QBC and the food
buyer loved the chocolate and she said it was actually
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like the best chocolate or plant based chocolate that she
had ever tasted. And that was my confirmation that I'm
onto something. I ended up quitting my technology job and
started my own business, and by the time twenty eighteen
rolled around, I was online. I have my own packaging
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and I was selling Good Girl Chocolate. But it's called
good Girl chocolate because you can eat it every single
day and still say you've been good. So it's about
clean eating. It doesn't have the hydrogenated oils in it.
The sugar that I use is coconut sugar. It doesn't
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have table sugar in it. It's free from gluten, it's
free from soy, it's single origin, it's fair trade, so
the workers are treated equally, and we make it ourselves.
So it takes four days. That brownie batter bar that
you're eating, it takes four days to make that chocolate
because we actually roast the beans ourselves and we put
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it into our grinders and we grind the beans, we
grind the.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Coked Keep Talk Georgie's Chocolate. Keep Talking Good Girl flyund
George's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Come on that that's right, and it is the best
chocolate ever. And let me tell you if that one
is too sweet for you, then I'll put you in
the semi suite. I love being able to figure out
what people like from the seventy percent dark to the
fifty two percent dark to the thirty four percent dark
and just really enjoying chocolate. You know, we have one
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life to live, and I believe in the eighty twenty room. Anyway,
you know, you eat clean eighty percent of your your
your life, but that twenty percent because we have birthdays,
we have Christmases, we have Thanksgiving, and let me tell you,
I get down during those days.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But to this clean doctor taviit I just had gallbladder
sy surgery.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, my gallbladders removement World forty.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of course that's when you usually the symptoms of having
a gallbladder issue.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now me, eating Good Girl chocolate should be a good.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thing, right, So let me tell you this. Everything and moderation,
and as a natural pathic doctor, I do have to
tell you when you do not have have a gallbladder,
it's harder for you to digest fats and that's why
for all of my clients I recommend a food enzyme
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that has life paste in it because life paste actually
helps you digest fats. But everything, no matter what you're eating,
whether it's the beyond sausage or meat that we're talking about,
you know, eat everything in moderation. Just because it's plant
based doesn't mean that you should be eating a whole
wagon full of it. A potato chip is plant based,
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but you shouldn't eat the whole high a big bag
of them, right right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But and that's me, And I've said I'm one of
those people I eat out of control. Like when you
said we shall you can eat this every day? I went, okay,
But you need to get the whole story before you
start just jumping into the wagon and having a party
and destroying all the good things that can happen in
your life by misinterpreting what you are trying to say
in this interview, or what anybody's ever trying to say,
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is about my iteration, weight loss is by moderation. Living
an uncomfortable life is moderation. They always tell you, don't overdrink,
don't overpart it, don't overdo it, don't over exercise.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Can leads to knee injuries, pulled muscles.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You know, people out there they want to become young
in the day by going in a gym and trying
to run a mile when they only should be walking
a mile instead of running a mile. And so the
whole purpose of when I look at the whole platform
of what you've done with Good Girl Chocolate is tied
to good health and a good healthy lifestyle with moderation
and a product that allows you to eat. I've never
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used the word healthy and mislead people, but this is
a naturally sweetened it is vegan based, and it's free
of gluten, their in soy, and it's made with our GMOs.
That's pretty good to me, doctor.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Thank you. And I want to piggyback on what you
just said, don't use the term healthy, and I don't.
I don't say, oh, I have a healthy chocolate. What
I do is I say I have a chocolate that
supports this lifestyle, that's free of the gluten, the soy,
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you know, the dairy, supporting the vegan, the paleo and
the whole thirty lifestyle. And it's sweetened with coconut sugar,
which is a lower glycemic sugar. And while we're at it,
we also have sugar free. One of the things that
my my diabetics or my ketos told me, they said, hey,
you know, doctor T, we really want something free of sugar.
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I understand you have the coconut sugar in it, but
we want something sugar free. So we also have a
sugar free chocolate that has xylotol from Birch, which is
the best of the best when it comes to alternative
sweeteners for the diabetic A community and for the keto community.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Now you're based in Oklahoma, and the Good Girl Chocolate
is based in Oklahoma. You just opened to a Rick
and more in the Pinch Square.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Mall in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And now, doctor T, let's talk about some good things
that have happened that made you smile. You know, Beyonce
when say she came to your rescue but bore her
brand really came in and put some love on you. Really,
it's not really about the amount of money she gave you.
It's the brand association, don't you agree?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Absolutely, It's just and first of all that it just
felt so good. I didn't receive an email or anything.
It was posted on social media. Who the grant recipients
were and I saw my chocolate, and let me tell
you that I think I cried. I'm serious, I was
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crying because it was just so.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I felt so much overwhelming joy from seeing that and
knowing that I'm onto something, I'm doing something right.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You know, when I was invited to the Grammys Gifting Suite,
you know, they tasted it first and said, hey, we
really don't like healthy chocolate, but your chocolate is awesome,
your energy is great. We definitely want you here. It's
just been confirmation after confirmation and being the first permanently
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black owned business in my local mall. Oh man, you
I'm just I'm just full of joy. I'm very very
very grateful, and I'm just excited.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, let's let's go and talk about you know, being
the first of anything is tied to pressure because you
can't be the first to close. You know, you're the first,
So that means that you have to endure you know,
internal mental, sometimes depression. You have to deal with being
in an environment that people can surround you positive people
(21:52):
and also surround yourself with people who understand your dream.
Talk about your network of people who support you and
also who have been to get to where you are
today with Good Girl Chocolate.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You know, I tell you I would be remiss if
I didn't say my parents first when it comes to support.
They are my number one supporters. As a matter of fact,
right now, it's so hard to find people to work
right now, and my parents, who are retired, have stepped
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up and have been helping me in the store, you
know this past week. Keep things together. But I believe
your network is very important. You know, there's that saying
your network is your net worth, but it really really
is about building relationships. I am an alpha Kappa alpha woman,
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and you know I have a network from my sorority sisters,
you know, who came together and supported me my first
you know, week open. You already know my good friend
Kim Cole's you know, she has definitely opened up some amazing,
amazing doors for me. But it's really about relationships. You know.
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I think your character and who you are is very
important and people are going to see that. People are
going to see that uniqueness about you. And I'm a believer.
I believe in God. God is first in my life
and I've just been so blessed with people who love me,
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people who have embraced me, people who have helped me
get to where I am today. I am truly grateful.
I went through the Oklahoma City Thunder Accelerator program here
in Oklahoma City, and I came out with my first investor.
And it was that investor who helped me because I
had to totally redo this store in Pennsquirre Mall from
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drop ceilings to electrical to equipment. That's fifteen thousand dollars
of peace. So all of that costs money. And I'm
just excited. I'm excited about the growth. I'm excited about
the wholesale opportunities that are out there that have approached me.
It's just an exciting time. And it's just it's truly
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about relationships. And I'm excited about sitting here with you,
talking to you and on your show. And I appreciate
the opportunity and thank you so much from the bottom
of my heart.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, thank you for this good girl, Chocolic. First of all,
it's gonna be real. It's a selfish motivation.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Here. You give me some good. I gotta talk to
you about how good it is.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And it's really I can't wait to get in this
little this little bag of tricks right here, the little
covered with those pecan nuts.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
This is going to be my favorite.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Let me tell you that pecan fudge. I don't know
if we can even let you dig on it, if
you can dig in on it on the show, but
that pecan fudge truffle that's in that box, that's probably
going to be your favorite.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well I know, but you know, a rich old Rushan,
you know, im morsels in moderation.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I'm working on this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I can't immediately bust open this little package here, especially
liberity just wrapping up surgery, but more importantly, just I
wanted to tell your story. I just you know, and
there's always a great story. There's always the product's fantastic.
Let's let's move past that. But what made that product
a reality? And the reality is through personal triumph. A
reality is trying to change not only your lives, but
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other people lives through your empowerment. And it started with
your book. It started when he was sixteen years old.
It started with you not accepting the fact that this
is going to be your life and you didn't want
it to be your life. It started through your education.
It started through you realizing that the way you look
was limited in your dreams and you had to change that.
But more importantly, doctor Carr, your product is amazing. Don't
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let the word vegan run you away from this product.
It is what it is, but it's for you. It
tastes good. Everybody knows I'm a dessert nut. I am
a foodie. When I say something is good, and you
should stamp that as a reality. I do not allow
people to come on my show and then, you know,
eat their food and then go around the corner and
spit it out. That's not how it works on Money
(26:13):
Making Conversation. This is fantastic and I will be dying
on this this weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Thank you very much for coming on those show, Doctor Carr.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for the
opportunity I have enjoyed this time. I love talking about
health and wellness. I love talking about good Girl chocolate,
and I love to inspire and empower women.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
posted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests
on the show today, and thank you listening to audience now.
If you want to listen to any episode. I want
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