February 14, 2024 • 11 mins
Just 10 minutes left in the 2023 NFL season and here come the takes:
- You have to knock out the Chiefs
- Always go on defense in overtime
- I love a Super Bowl in overtime, but double OT would've been better
- The Mahomes-Jordan comparisons
- Can the 49ers get back?
- Jim, I love Tony Romo
- We're not ending the season talking about the refs!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ten Takes. We did it. We finished the NFL season.
I'm back from Las Vegas. I'm back speaking to you guys.
I have ten minutes to do it. I'm going to
get those takes in. They're all Super Bowl related. Thank
you very much for joining me throughout this whole season, beginning, middle,
and now the end. Three words I sam every single episode.
(00:37):
Start the clock. Take number one. You have to knock
the Chiefs out. You have to really deliver punishment and
land punches, not glancing blows, not punches off their gloves.
You have to hit them in the face when they
give you a shot. And that's the reason the Niners
(00:59):
are not the champs, because they couldn't. I've seen this before,
especially with this version of the Chiefs team. The other
team looks better for most of the game. Certainly in
the first half, the Niners were just fresher, They were
more physical, they were more energetic, and Mahomes is in
the middle of the longest streak of his career without
scoring a touchdown. His tight end is coming ungraveled on
(01:24):
the sideline against the coach like It's some more of
that in a minute late in the game, as rookie
wide receivers chirping about not getting the ball. The Niners
should have won that game, and they didn't because they
couldn't draw enough blood. They couldn't get paid when it
was payday, meaning there's a touchdown to be had. They
didn't get paid. The McCaffrey fumble on the opening drive.
Don't fumble. You can't make a big special team's mistake
(01:45):
against the Mahomes teams. They made two. If you're a
Niners fan, it's got to be so frustrated. It's not
like Prety messed up. It's not like you weren't equal
to the task. You weren't. You were probably better, and
you couldn't get paid. You couldn't cash in. That game
felt like, you know a lot of it. The Niners
had the Chiefs back in the corner and they're just
(02:06):
unleashing all these punches and uppercuts and straight rights and
jabs and haymakers, and they kind of feel like they're landing,
but no, because the Chiefs are covering up and protecting themselves.
And when the Niners finally punch themselves out, the Chiefs
smile at him in a wink and say, all those
punches didn't do damage. You didn't really land any You
have to knock the Chiefs out. That means going for it,
(02:27):
maybe even more on fourth down. That means being more
aggressive early. That means cashing in and not in field goals.
You can't do it. You just can't do it that way.
We've seen it too many times. Take number two. Of course,
you play defense first and overtime. How is this the debate?
I don't know why Shanahan did that. Put it this way.
If you were playing a friend of yours in Madden
(02:48):
and it was overtime and it was the rules that
they just were last night, like in the super Bowl,
and your friend won the toss and decided to play
offense first, you'd be like, idiot, why are you doing that.
I'm definitely gonna beat you, and you would beat them.
I know. This is deep into the weeds, and it's
coaching philosophy and the analytics. And Shanahan's explanation was, we
did it so that when we score and then they score,
(03:09):
then we get it first in sudden death. Yeah, the
problem is you didn't score a touchdown. It's way too
much assuming I just think, listen, let them have the ball,
they get a field goal, great, you stop them. Great,
they get a touchdown, Fine, they get a touchdown in
a two point conversion. I don't care. Worst case scenario.
Then you get the ball and you know what time
it is, you know what's on the menu, you know
(03:30):
what you have to do. In a Shanahan, a play
calling guy like him, every single set of downs is
four downs. We can run it more early on first
and second because we know, no matter what, we have
to score a touchdown. So there's no way we won't
go for it on fourth. There's no way to kick
a field going forth. We know what we have to do.
And I don't buy the explanation that, well, maybe Shanahan's
(03:50):
defense was gas we want to give them a break.
He was asked straight up is that the case after
the game, and he said, no, No, we decided before
the game. So, in other words, you decided philosophically what
you're going to do in a vacuum that you will
always take the ball first. You're not gonna field the game.
You're not gonna see how it's going. Frustrating to me
if I'm Shanahan, and who the hell am I. I'm
not a play call I'm not a coordinator. But I
(04:11):
sat there watching him like cou'd be nice if Shanahan
knew what he had to do and Mahomes had already
gone frustrating. If you're a nine ers man, I bet
you're pissed about that. You should be take number three.
Overtime super Bowls are the best. I absolutely love him.
If you don't know, that was the fifty eighth Super Bowl,
if only the second overtime one, the first one being
twenty eight to three Falcons Patriots also involved in Kyle Shanahan.
(04:31):
What's really crazy is I bet you didn't know this.
CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus said during the week, he's
joking in the media saying that, you know, since we
got the Super Bowl, the NFL promised us a double
overtime game, and everybody laughs, and it's just a sort
of a media joke. He's laughing about the script joke.
They kind of flirted with a double overtime game. That
(04:52):
was a quote that went around. If they had delivered
on the double overtime game, the scripting conspiracies would have
gone nuts, it would have been really fun. Also, overtime
is weird, so there's a lot of confus usion. Right
about the new overtime, I'll put my hand up and
just say I understood. Both teams get the ball, and
if both teams score and are still tied, it becomes
sudden death. What's the deal with the clock? Why is
(05:15):
there a game clock? The game clock seems to have
no purpose or function whatsoever, and then it leads to
moments like right before the Chiefs game winning Super Bowl
winning touchdown, Romo is screaming like, no, no, the clock
doesn't matter. The clock doesn't matter, and I'm like, wait,
hold on, why is the clock ticking down under ten seconds?
Why aren't they calling it time out? Well, it's the
clock is irrelevant. You just play until the scenarios play
(05:36):
themselves out. So why did they even have a clock?
Is it because if the time expires, you do start
a new period and go to double overtime, But then
the fields flips and you have to go to the
other end of the field. What purpose is that? Who cares?
There's not a home fan section, there's not a wind
in the stadium. It's indoors. I don't even know why
theynse wipe the clock out of the new overtime. It
was confusing, maybe not for the reason that some of
(05:57):
the other people felt take number four. The Mahomes Shorten stuff,
I think is accurate in a sense. Romo was all
over at the end of the game. Certainly many people
in myself included, have compared Mahomes to Jordan, but I
like the comparison in this sense. Jordan never had that
year where it was like, you know, Carl Malone has
earned it and he won and that's fine. Or Charles
(06:18):
Barkley or Patrick Ewing or John Stockton, Sean Kemp, Gary Payton.
He wanted them all, he won them all. He never
lost the finals. Screw it. There was no charitable factor
where Jordan lost in the finals and was, you know,
kind of happy with one of these other guys. Mahomes
is the same way. He was supposed to be Lamar's year.
It's always supposed to be Josh Allen's year. It was
(06:40):
maybe supposed to be the Niners year. He just takes
them all and there's a lot of really great players
who are never going to win a championship because of
Patrick Mahomes, same thing with Jordan. Take them for five.
Chiefs defense was not just good or great, they were
all time great. Think about what that defense did this
year and the type of teams that they faced. First
of all, just the Loan in the playoffs, the Shanahan
(07:02):
offensive machine they faced, the Mike mc daniel offensive machine
they faced, they faced, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. Not to
mention all of the regular season quarterbacks they played, they
never even gave up twenty eight points in a single game.
Twenty one straight games without giving up twenty eight points.
That is an all time record. That is above the
Ray Lewis Ravens defense, the first one. That's above that
incredible Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense to beat the Raiders in
(07:24):
the Super Bowl. Those are the best two defenses along
with the eighty five Bears that I've seen in my life.
There the second and third. I'm not giving up twenty
eight points in the game. The Chiefs are the all
time run that unbelievable, unbelievable plorrence by their defense. So good.
Take number six. The Kelsey Andy Reid sideline thing was weird,
was very strange. Kelsey's very mad on the Pacheco play
where Pachecko fumbles, Kelsey was not in the game. Kelsey
(07:47):
goes over, bumps into Reid, damn near knocked him over.
If he knocked Andy Reid down, they would have been
a majorly different image and was stuck with him forever.
I still think it would have stuck with him. If
they lost the game, for sure, he'd be taking hell
for it. But then they win, Reid as jolly, Kelsey
is happy, and Andy Reid picks up afterwards saying that
I love it. It keeps me young. Kind of a
(08:08):
cheap shot, though, snuck up on me. Listen, I've seen
a lot of takes about if X player had done
that to his coach, you'd be vilified and eviscerated. Well,
if X player was in the middle of his fourth
Super Bowl with the same coach, it was a first
ballot Hall of Famer who had a long history relationship
and congeniality with that head coach, then I do not
think it would be the same. All Right, Kelsey is
(08:29):
a different deal. I wasn't super triggered by it. I
wanted him to win. Anger runs for running over as coach.
Take number seven The Niners and their fans and some
of the media people, including people I work with, are
going through the routine of the loser with the Niners.
You look at the second they lose the game, you say, well,
can I make back next year? Well, let's pull up
the free agents. Let's point out that the quarterback isn't
really highly paid, Let's point out that the division really
(08:51):
isn't coming for him, or anything. That just sucks. It's very,
very difficult to get back. And if you look into it,
the streak of quarterbacks starting and losing their first Super
Bowl and never getting back again is very, very long,
goes back to the mid nineties. Brought where he's gonna
try to break that, It's gonna be very difficult. The
probability says the Niners will not be back.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Take number eight.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Shanahan's reputation is what it is, Guys. I like Kyle Shanahan.
I'm not someone who comes out today and says loser, choker,
all that stuff. But his reputation is earned as a
very good coach and a very good ex's and o's
guy who can't win the big one. That's it. Kyle
Shanahan will get a big lead in a big game,
and he will blow it. Twenty five points. It's the Patriots,
ten points against the Chiefs. Ten points against the Chiefs again,
(09:31):
and he will blow it. That's the way it works.
You know. We used to have the reputation of being
a really good coach and really likable guy who couldn't
win the big one, Andy Reid. But until Kyle Shanahan wins,
that's just the reputation. That's how it works. Sorry, take
number nine. I like Romo in the game yesterday, Tony Romo.
I know a lot of people were just ready to
jump up. I think it was the most anticipated call
of the Super Bowl in a long time. There was
(09:51):
the Chiefs, there was a forty nine ers, there was
a whole bunch of people waiting to hear Romo. The
number one point of annoyance for people with Romo that
seems to be that he says Jim a lot. I
actually kind of laugh at it. I like it, he
says Jim, Jim Jim, And I think at the end
of the game, if you like an enthusiastic call, when
the real offensive nuances are going on, He's really good
at it and gets me excited to listen to the game.
(10:11):
I like Romo take number ten. I'm so thrilled we're
not talking about officiating today. Officials doesn't do anything. I
loved it. I'm so thrilled we're not talking about the
surfaces today, playing surface Matter Factor. Ten minutes up. That's it.
I had more to say, as I usually do. I'm
almost all of them, including what we're not talking about today,
(10:34):
which is fun, but I'm cheating right now. The ten
minutes is up. You've given me your time. You have
other things to do, maybe other shows to listen to.
I will say it again, thrilled, honored, flattered, and just
really really special that of all the things you could
have clicked on, you clicked on my show. That's ten
minutes long. I delivered a promise on you to make
it quick and get you out of here, and I've
done it all season long. I'm so thankful that you listen.
(10:55):
Please continue to do so. Thank you, Love you, Tell
a friend, hope you enjoyed the season.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Goodbye Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in
partnership with iHeartRadio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to the
iHeartRadio app, go to Apple, go anywhere you like.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It'll be there,
Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ten Takes. We did it. We finished the NFL season.
I'm back from Las Vegas. I'm back speaking to you guys.
I have ten minutes to do it. I'm going to
get those takes in. They're all Super Bowl related. Thank
you very much for joining me throughout this whole season, beginning, middle,
and now the end. Three words I sam every single episode.
(00:37):
Start the clock. Take number one. You have to knock
the Chiefs out. You have to really deliver punishment and
land punches, not glancing blows, not punches off their gloves.
You have to hit them in the face when they
give you a shot. And that's the reason the Niners
(00:59):
are not the champs, because they couldn't. I've seen this before,
especially with this version of the Chiefs team. The other
team looks better for most of the game. Certainly in
the first half, the Niners were just fresher, They were
more physical, they were more energetic, and Mahomes is in
the middle of the longest streak of his career without
scoring a touchdown. His tight end is coming ungraveled on
(01:24):
the sideline against the coach like It's some more of
that in a minute late in the game, as rookie
wide receivers chirping about not getting the ball. The Niners
should have won that game, and they didn't because they
couldn't draw enough blood. They couldn't get paid when it
was payday, meaning there's a touchdown to be had. They
didn't get paid. The McCaffrey fumble on the opening drive.
Don't fumble. You can't make a big special team's mistake
(01:45):
against the Mahomes teams. They made two. If you're a
Niners fan, it's got to be so frustrated. It's not
like Prety messed up. It's not like you weren't equal
to the task. You weren't. You were probably better, and
you couldn't get paid. You couldn't cash in. That game
felt like, you know a lot of it. The Niners
had the Chiefs back in the corner and they're just
(02:06):
unleashing all these punches and uppercuts and straight rights and
jabs and haymakers, and they kind of feel like they're landing,
but no, because the Chiefs are covering up and protecting themselves.
And when the Niners finally punch themselves out, the Chiefs
smile at him in a wink and say, all those
punches didn't do damage. You didn't really land any You
have to knock the Chiefs out. That means going for it,
(02:27):
maybe even more on fourth down. That means being more
aggressive early. That means cashing in and not in field goals.
You can't do it. You just can't do it that way.
We've seen it too many times. Take number two. Of course,
you play defense first and overtime. How is this the debate?
I don't know why Shanahan did that. Put it this way.
If you were playing a friend of yours in Madden
(02:48):
and it was overtime and it was the rules that
they just were last night, like in the super Bowl,
and your friend won the toss and decided to play
offense first, you'd be like, idiot, why are you doing that.
I'm definitely gonna beat you, and you would beat them.
I know. This is deep into the weeds, and it's
coaching philosophy and the analytics. And Shanahan's explanation was, we
did it so that when we score and then they score,
(03:09):
then we get it first in sudden death. Yeah, the
problem is you didn't score a touchdown. It's way too
much assuming I just think, listen, let them have the ball,
they get a field goal, great, you stop them. Great,
they get a touchdown, Fine, they get a touchdown in
a two point conversion. I don't care. Worst case scenario.
Then you get the ball and you know what time
it is, you know what's on the menu, you know
(03:30):
what you have to do. In a Shanahan, a play
calling guy like him, every single set of downs is
four downs. We can run it more early on first
and second because we know, no matter what, we have
to score a touchdown. So there's no way we won't
go for it on fourth. There's no way to kick
a field going forth. We know what we have to do.
And I don't buy the explanation that, well, maybe Shanahan's
(03:50):
defense was gas we want to give them a break.
He was asked straight up is that the case after
the game, and he said, no, No, we decided before
the game. So, in other words, you decided philosophically what
you're going to do in a vacuum that you will
always take the ball first. You're not gonna field the game.
You're not gonna see how it's going. Frustrating to me
if I'm Shanahan, and who the hell am I. I'm
not a play call I'm not a coordinator. But I
(04:11):
sat there watching him like cou'd be nice if Shanahan
knew what he had to do and Mahomes had already
gone frustrating. If you're a nine ers man, I bet
you're pissed about that. You should be take number three.
Overtime super Bowls are the best. I absolutely love him.
If you don't know, that was the fifty eighth Super Bowl,
if only the second overtime one, the first one being
twenty eight to three Falcons Patriots also involved in Kyle Shanahan.
(04:31):
What's really crazy is I bet you didn't know this.
CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus said during the week, he's
joking in the media saying that, you know, since we
got the Super Bowl, the NFL promised us a double
overtime game, and everybody laughs, and it's just a sort
of a media joke. He's laughing about the script joke.
They kind of flirted with a double overtime game. That
(04:52):
was a quote that went around. If they had delivered
on the double overtime game, the scripting conspiracies would have
gone nuts, it would have been really fun. Also, overtime
is weird, so there's a lot of confus usion. Right
about the new overtime, I'll put my hand up and
just say I understood. Both teams get the ball, and
if both teams score and are still tied, it becomes
sudden death. What's the deal with the clock? Why is
(05:15):
there a game clock? The game clock seems to have
no purpose or function whatsoever, and then it leads to
moments like right before the Chiefs game winning Super Bowl
winning touchdown, Romo is screaming like, no, no, the clock
doesn't matter. The clock doesn't matter, and I'm like, wait,
hold on, why is the clock ticking down under ten seconds?
Why aren't they calling it time out? Well, it's the
clock is irrelevant. You just play until the scenarios play
(05:36):
themselves out. So why did they even have a clock?
Is it because if the time expires, you do start
a new period and go to double overtime, But then
the fields flips and you have to go to the
other end of the field. What purpose is that? Who cares?
There's not a home fan section, there's not a wind
in the stadium. It's indoors. I don't even know why
theynse wipe the clock out of the new overtime. It
was confusing, maybe not for the reason that some of
(05:57):
the other people felt take number four. The Mahomes Shorten stuff,
I think is accurate in a sense. Romo was all
over at the end of the game. Certainly many people
in myself included, have compared Mahomes to Jordan, but I
like the comparison in this sense. Jordan never had that
year where it was like, you know, Carl Malone has
earned it and he won and that's fine. Or Charles
(06:18):
Barkley or Patrick Ewing or John Stockton, Sean Kemp, Gary Payton.
He wanted them all, he won them all. He never
lost the finals. Screw it. There was no charitable factor
where Jordan lost in the finals and was, you know,
kind of happy with one of these other guys. Mahomes
is the same way. He was supposed to be Lamar's year.
It's always supposed to be Josh Allen's year. It was
(06:40):
maybe supposed to be the Niners year. He just takes
them all and there's a lot of really great players
who are never going to win a championship because of
Patrick Mahomes, same thing with Jordan. Take them for five.
Chiefs defense was not just good or great, they were
all time great. Think about what that defense did this
year and the type of teams that they faced. First
of all, just the Loan in the playoffs, the Shanahan
(07:02):
offensive machine they faced, the Mike mc daniel offensive machine
they faced, they faced, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. Not to
mention all of the regular season quarterbacks they played, they
never even gave up twenty eight points in a single game.
Twenty one straight games without giving up twenty eight points.
That is an all time record. That is above the
Ray Lewis Ravens defense, the first one. That's above that
incredible Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense to beat the Raiders in
(07:24):
the Super Bowl. Those are the best two defenses along
with the eighty five Bears that I've seen in my life.
There the second and third. I'm not giving up twenty
eight points in the game. The Chiefs are the all
time run that unbelievable, unbelievable plorrence by their defense. So good.
Take number six. The Kelsey Andy Reid sideline thing was weird,
was very strange. Kelsey's very mad on the Pacheco play
where Pachecko fumbles, Kelsey was not in the game. Kelsey
(07:47):
goes over, bumps into Reid, damn near knocked him over.
If he knocked Andy Reid down, they would have been
a majorly different image and was stuck with him forever.
I still think it would have stuck with him. If
they lost the game, for sure, he'd be taking hell
for it. But then they win, Reid as jolly, Kelsey
is happy, and Andy Reid picks up afterwards saying that
I love it. It keeps me young. Kind of a
(08:08):
cheap shot, though, snuck up on me. Listen, I've seen
a lot of takes about if X player had done
that to his coach, you'd be vilified and eviscerated. Well,
if X player was in the middle of his fourth
Super Bowl with the same coach, it was a first
ballot Hall of Famer who had a long history relationship
and congeniality with that head coach, then I do not
think it would be the same. All Right, Kelsey is
(08:29):
a different deal. I wasn't super triggered by it. I
wanted him to win. Anger runs for running over as coach.
Take number seven The Niners and their fans and some
of the media people, including people I work with, are
going through the routine of the loser with the Niners.
You look at the second they lose the game, you say, well,
can I make back next year? Well, let's pull up
the free agents. Let's point out that the quarterback isn't
really highly paid, Let's point out that the division really
(08:51):
isn't coming for him, or anything. That just sucks. It's very,
very difficult to get back. And if you look into it,
the streak of quarterbacks starting and losing their first Super
Bowl and never getting back again is very, very long,
goes back to the mid nineties. Brought where he's gonna
try to break that, It's gonna be very difficult. The
probability says the Niners will not be back.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Take number eight.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Shanahan's reputation is what it is, Guys. I like Kyle Shanahan.
I'm not someone who comes out today and says loser, choker,
all that stuff. But his reputation is earned as a
very good coach and a very good ex's and o's
guy who can't win the big one. That's it. Kyle
Shanahan will get a big lead in a big game,
and he will blow it. Twenty five points. It's the Patriots,
ten points against the Chiefs. Ten points against the Chiefs again,
(09:31):
and he will blow it. That's the way it works.
You know. We used to have the reputation of being
a really good coach and really likable guy who couldn't
win the big one, Andy Reid. But until Kyle Shanahan wins,
that's just the reputation. That's how it works. Sorry, take
number nine. I like Romo in the game yesterday, Tony Romo.
I know a lot of people were just ready to
jump up. I think it was the most anticipated call
of the Super Bowl in a long time. There was
(09:51):
the Chiefs, there was a forty nine ers, there was
a whole bunch of people waiting to hear Romo. The
number one point of annoyance for people with Romo that
seems to be that he says Jim a lot. I
actually kind of laugh at it. I like it, he
says Jim, Jim Jim, And I think at the end
of the game, if you like an enthusiastic call, when
the real offensive nuances are going on, He's really good
at it and gets me excited to listen to the game.
(10:11):
I like Romo take number ten. I'm so thrilled we're
not talking about officiating today. Officials doesn't do anything. I
loved it. I'm so thrilled we're not talking about the
surfaces today, playing surface Matter Factor. Ten minutes up. That's it.
I had more to say, as I usually do. I'm
almost all of them, including what we're not talking about today,
(10:34):
which is fun, but I'm cheating right now. The ten
minutes is up. You've given me your time. You have
other things to do, maybe other shows to listen to.
I will say it again, thrilled, honored, flattered, and just
really really special that of all the things you could
have clicked on, you clicked on my show. That's ten
minutes long. I delivered a promise on you to make
it quick and get you out of here, and I've
done it all season long. I'm so thankful that you listen.
(10:55):
Please continue to do so. Thank you, Love you, Tell
a friend, hope you enjoyed the season.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Goodbye Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in
partnership with iHeartRadio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to the
iHeartRadio app, go to Apple, go anywhere you like.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It'll be there,
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