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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I thought the game was over well before that DeVante
Smith touchdown. The context is, all right, Chiefs down seventeen
to nothing, but they're with the ball before the four halftime,
so they're gonna go score. They get the ball to
start the second half. It was all set up for
the comeback to them, and then the Zach Baughn interception happened,
and it was this combination of you're not gonna have
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that scenario. I just laid out, you're not going to
score before the half, and also Mahomes just doesn't have
it today and he doesn't have the protection, he doesn't
have the eye at the tiger. A couple of plays later,
AJ Brown's gonna score. But at this point I was
not worried about the Chiefs. I was like, it'll be
at least seventeen to three, probably seventeen to seven, then
seventeen to ten.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Vaughn jumps in front of this thing, and it's like,
what a doing that? What is this Chiefs team? What
is Mahomes? This to me, Monte Smith, it was you
can go home if you want.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
This was we have major major problems and the Eagles
are gonna win the super Bowl because it was a
really bad play by Mahomes. It was real bad pass protection.
And this is when I said something's rotten in Denmark,
and I think we have a new Super Bowl champion.
It was the Bond interception. That was your dream come true.
That was terrible from start, Tomson, or maybe it was
wonderful from start to finish.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Maybe I understand going into this.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm still kind of in shock, guys, Like with respect
to the Eagles, I'm still not coming down that I
can't believe it was this one sided. We've said this
a lot of times. All Right, So Mahomes, he'd won
nine playoff games in a row. He was eight to
zero against Vick Fangio. Another stat I saw he has
never lost the game indoors ever, He's never his NFL career.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
He's done so much winning. We have obscure stats like that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, if he's in a dome or a roof that's closed,
he's never ever lost, and it was never a game.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm not shocked that they lost.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm not even shocked that they lost by double I
am shocked that they didn't show up.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And I think this was worse than the Bucks Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I remember that thinking they had all these offensive line issues,
which were different from last night's offensive line issues, and
the whole sentiment was Mahomes doesn't have a chance out there.
He's just running around trying to make plays, and the
Bucks were better. This was worse than that start to finish.
Never showed up. And I keep saying this, I have
so much respect for Mahomes and for the Chiefs and
for Reid. I just kept you, kept waiting for the comeback.
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When is it gonna happen. It's ten to nothing, it's
seventeen nothing, it's twenty four to nothing. When is the
run gonna happen? There was no run. It's I hate
that the score is forty to twenty two. Mahomes pulls
out a couple of crazy touchdowns the worthy end of
the game that were meaningless, and it was onside kicks
and it was just garbage. It was a complete, complete shellacking.
And I didn't think in a million years we would
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ever get that. Peter, you know, you say they ran
out of gas, Like I don't know what that means.
This is the team that understands the scheduling to understand
the season, they got to buy, they were healthy, they
were rested. I don't know what the excuse is that
it's probably the worst game of mahomes Careermes was bad
in this game. I mean, I can't think of a
worst game that he's played. I mean, so he got
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woefully outplayed. And listen, if it's Josh Allen, if it's
Lamar who plays that game, we're jumping and we're carving.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Mahomes was really bad in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And like, I don't take pleasure in saying that I
didn't need the hate watch.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
They were bad.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And this is not the first time he's not played
his best game in a Super Bowl. It's not the
second time either, So listen, we have months to talk
about this.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It wasn't just Jalen Carter and Nick and Nick Bough
and Zach Bonn. He had like Avonte maddox is all
over the field and.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Milton Williams all like Jylex Hunt was making it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Every Eagles defender got a lick on Mahomes. Yes, we listen.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I was on about seven hours of pregame yesterday. A
lot of us were Most of the conversation was with
a wins tonight? Is this the greatest dynasty ever? Is
Mahomes now in the driver's seat for the goat debate?
If you believe any of that stuff, there was a
huge step back. Pat Mahomes sensational, a time player, but
to wake up this morning and say he's Brady, He's this, No,
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he played poorly in that game.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
He played poorly in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We have six months to talk about it and maybe
fifty years to talk about it. But it was a
devastating night for the Chiefs and all their enthusiasts and
all their supporters.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
If you wanted to hate watch, you got it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
There's something about the football gods and three peats where
they just don't want them to happen, and who knows
if we'll ever get one. I was sitting around some
Chiefs fans and I like illustrate from the true Chiefs
fan base and these people who go to the Super
Bowl and they travel to the Super Bowl city and
they have the routine and the jerseys.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
There was really never even a flicker. And I really
mean that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And what I keep coming back to every segment is
when was the comeback going to happen?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I just was watching those people.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
There was never even this glimmer of, oh wait, hold on,
we might have something on this drive, because they didn't,
and by the time they had anything, it was completely
over and it was already Gatorade shower and we got
Kenny Pickett in the game.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It was just they never even had a flicker. You know.
It's a different kind of crowd sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
At the Super Bowl, I was in the stand and
I was surrounded by some people who were, I always say.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Just casual observers of the game. They don't digest it
like we do day and day out.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I was beside myself at halftime trying to be like, you, guys,
don't understand how crazy this is.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Nuts.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I need you to understand. It's twenty four to nothing.
What is the Chiefs are losing twenty four to nothing?
So but do you understand this is historic? What they're
doing right now? That you understand this is nuts? And
I don't think they understood, and I'm still trying to understand.
The fact is that Saquon Barkley was stuffed in this game. Okay,
he did not do anything, and so you think, well
that passing yards must have been nuts for the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Aj Brown had forty three yards and they still rolled.
That was the most shocking halftime score in Super Bowl history.
I'm going to put it like that. We've seen worse,
We've seen blowouts, We've seen all kinds of things. I
was reminded a lot of the Peyton Manning versus Seahawks
Super Bowl last night, in which you have this proven
superstar quarterback and Manning or Mahomes who you trust implicitly
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and can always get it done, who just never had
it from start to finish. From the first snap of
the game, you said, oh, something's off, and they ran
into the jaws of a defense that was just not
having it on that day. This reminded me of Peyton
versus the Seahawks. So I say most shocking halftime score
in Super Bowl history. If it wasn't for the second
half of twenty eight to twenty two three, I'd say
it's the most shocking half of Super Bowl football ever.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Twenty five.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's not that the Eagles were winning, It's not even
that they were winning by double digits. They were shutting
them out for a long time. The Chiefs were stuck
on sixteen yards of offense. Is an incredible, incredible thing.
The one thing I wanted to see in this game
was I wanted Saquana get stuffed just for the fact
that can Jalen Hurts do it? Does he have it
in him? Can he carry this team? He can carry
this team. There's a very very famous photograph out there
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online that people love to talk about, that people love
to tweet and retweet, and it is the club. It
is the club of quarterbacks who have beaten Patrick Mahomes
in a playoff game. It's Joe Burrow, it's Tom Brady.
They took a picture at this white party and that's it,
and that was like, oh my god, those guys have
beaten Mahomes in a playoff game. And now Brady's retired.
There's an up updated photograph. Put it out there, and
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this is the one you should be posting, you should
be tweeting. That is a new member in the club.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
All white.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
He's got a little look on his face. He's feeling satisfied.
He beat Mahomes in a playoff game. He did it decidedly,
and that is a new member of the club. Incredible,
incredible picture. I still can't believe what happened in that
first half, but maybe I should. Philadelphia was that good
and Jalen Hurts was that cool and that much better
than Mahomes, so we will talk about it really was
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a terrible butt kicking, wasn't it. I'm just looking at
back at that game and we just don't see much
of that normally when we run that package. It's very
tense at the end of the game. Will the field
goal be good? Will the past be no? This thing
was over at halftime, and it's been that. We haven't
gotten one of those since. I think the Chiefs Bucks
won and then before that, I think it was Broncos Seahawks.
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It doesn't happen very much, so all the Eagles kind
of were celebrating for the entire fourth quarter. The gatorade
shower came before the two minute warning. That's very, very
unusual that that would happen. But it's funny to see
their reactions by the end of it. I think it
means different things to different people. I'm watching Dallas Goddard
almost give a hype speech to Jalen Carter about how
cool this is that we won the Super Bowl. Jalen
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Carter Georgia two National Championship Dallas Goddter, South Dakota State
had a Super Bowl that he lost. I think it
means different things to different people, And it's an unusual
post super Bowl video where it's normally much more tense.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
This was just a party. Yeah, you're on it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
He's outplayed Mahomes and two super Bowls and he's won
one of them. And Mahomes is the grest quarterback of
this generation, which is why it is definitely Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
The Sirianni thing is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's this game wasn't even over yet and he just
made it back to a super Bowl and he destroyed
the Chiefs, and all of the talk was about Vic
Fangio won this game, and oh look, his coordinator is
going to stay here.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
To take the Saints job.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I think that there was more talk about his coordinators,
not even after, but during that game than there was
about the head coach.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
If you mentioned the top.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Five quarterbacks whatever. So in the off season, the national media,
which we're part of, makes their list of top five
head coaches. Are you putting Nick Sirianni there, or you
got to put Andy Reid who we just beat. I've
put McVeigh who he just beat like you just keep
going in it. At one point you have to get
over whatever prejudices you may have against Syrianni or whatever
memories you have of him.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The media is tough right now.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It is so difficult to re establish a reputation. It
is so difficult to get over a first impression. And
I think there's a lot of impressions in regular people
sitting at a bar or people who have a TV
show that Nick Sirianni is still the loudmouth on the
sideline talking crap to the camera who looks like the
kid from Elf. Like that gift was taken a couple
of years ago, and he's done a lot of amazing
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things since then, that he is not just some loudmouth
dufas who chirps in his fans. I got to be
there at the Super Bowl press conference on Monday morning
when he accept the Lombardi Trophy, where he showed up
in AJ Brown's high school jersey and was smart and
thoughtful and very serious, and there's no dufist, there's no
jackass whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There's no gift to him at all.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He was a guy who just won the Super Bowl
over Andy Reid and Mahomes and felt every bit the part.
So I think Hurts has now looked at as this
like golden God, like he's amazing and he's cool and
he beats Mahomes. Sirianni is still like, all right, well,
let's see what you do without Kellen Moore next year.
Let's see where you go next year, and watch they
start two and two, like, it'll be Sirianni again.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
At what point does he have to get to it? Still,
that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If they start off two and two next year, do
you think someone's got the courage in the media to
be like, I don't know, maybe they should move on
from Sirio.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think the take will be that Kellen Moore carried Sirianni.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Now I don't personally think that because Kellen Moore has
not always been around with Sirianni. Sirianni was successful before him,
he'll be successful after him. I'm being asked about who
helped himself the most in the media and their image,
and it is Hurts.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
In a long shot.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I still think there is a crowd on social media
or in debate shows that is waiting to jump Sirianni.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's not Teflon.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
He should be like I felt like Doug Peterson should
have after he won that Super Bowl and they ran
about of town a couple of years later and just
got fired from his second team. So it's it's a
shame because I really will always remember him at that
press conference when it wasn't really going to the masses
and not everyone was watching, and it wasn't the subject
for debate shows, and he showed up. He was cool,
and he was smart, and he was a leader. That's
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what I'll try to remember. But I don't think a
lot of people see him that way. Do you remember
I'm gonna take him into this week fourteen, Philadelphia at Carolina.
Do you remember this game? The Panthers should have beat
the world champ Eagles. This was an incredible thing where
Bryce Young was going to have his moment, have his
signature win. He throws this long pass to Xavier Legette
and he drops it on the goal line. This was
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the game that led to the Eagles A J. Brown say,
you need to get better at passing. They were totally
upset after this win. Look at Price up the hero
and Legets just drops it. Dave Canalis afterwards says he
has to catch that ball.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He was not mincing words at all. This was the
signature win for everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
A year ago at Honors Keegan Michael Key had Carolina
Panthers jokes about how bad they weren't, how far from
a super Bowl they were. They made strides this year,
Prince Young mate strides canals had them going and they
should have won this game against the Eagles, and they
dropped it the only byproduct of it and it was
a bad moment for Xavier Lagett, but it kind of
put him on everybody's radar, and then he got to
do things like this where he talks about how he
eats raccoons.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Y'all fat in that video when I said, coon, I
your raccoon?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You what I said? What do you mean raccoon? Like
the raccoon? Like a raccoon that you see in the chair? Oare?
Where do you even eat that at? Where do you
even get that? I hunted it, I skinned him, cool
ate them it. So when was the last time you
had a raccoon? I give you wait, what does it
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taste like? It got it?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know everybody judged they still take like cheese, But
raccoon got his.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So he has raccoon for Thanksgiving. I think there's a
new thing where you take a raccoon and you put
it inside a possum and then inside of a squirrel
and expected to version he's at I hunt him, I
skin him, and I came from Mullins, South Carolina Mullins.
So if you're tired of turkey and thanksgivin, who's not raccoon?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
That's the new turkey.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Where do you even place Jalen Hurts, Well, you know,
we go through this all the time. They vote on
those things during the season, so all that Super Bowl
stuff won't.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Be part of it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Listen, where would I plays my own personal one hundred
as a quarterback? I don't think he's as good as
a quarterback as Lamar and Josh Allen. And then then
the most fascinating one is the Mahomes thing, because Mahomes is.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Just the standard and we've just all been married to
this idea. He's the best quarterback when it counts.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I mean, we've got some things to talk about right now,
and he didn't put up the biggest stats this year,
but at the end of the game, I don't know
Jalen Hurts It took a huge leap in his reputation,
I think in his respect amongst the players and fans.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And if you don't say that he a top five guy.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So let's just brass tacks, Mahomes, Alan Lamar Burrow and
and five quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's I think Satsalon nine there. That's my top about quarterbacks.
Top five rankings.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Then we have to include like Lane Johnson, and we
have to include pass rushers.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But in top five quarterbacks, I think that's the five
that we've landed on. And I don't know the order yet.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I have a sympathy, I really do in the time
when no one does. With the NFL officials and the referees.
I particularly love Sean Hockey. I'll have that entire crew
because my first random job, little league umpire.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I've been in those shoes before. And I'm not talking.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
About getting seventeen bucks a game to stand out there
by second base like that guy. That guy is the
infield umpire and I respect it.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But you go behind the plate, that's the bart.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You start calling balls and strikes and you get in
this game where.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You're up in nine, Y're all like that guy.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know, when they throw twenty seven balls in a row,
you start to get a pretty generous strike zone.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Because you're trying to move the game along. I would
call strikes. I'd get the kids looking back at me,
I get the parents chirping me. I've been there. I
put up with none of it.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So I sympathize not only with our MLB brothers and sisters,
but with our crews.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
On the field.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Thought they officiated a pretty good game, maybe a little
bit of a rocky start, but it wasn't the story afterwards.
It's because I've been there, little ball strike clicker. I
made nineteen dollars a game in like nineteen ninety two,
and I felt like Warbucks.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It was incredible. I was, I was bezos. Wouldn't I
ever go to belly to belly with a dad now.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
With a coach though, a coach who used to sign
my thing. Afterwards, you have to go up and say
will you signed this? And he wouldn't sign it, and
like the calls, and then I go to the manager
who runs the whole league. He's like, what an idiot,
here's your money. I was like yeah, and he, by
the way, you know, he was safe.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
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