November 30, 2024 • 41 mins
Travis is back in the film room to dissect where things went wrong - and what went right - in the Dolphins Thanksgiving loss in Green Bay.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, doll fans, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not gonna do the intro here on these podcasts where
the epic intro seems just a little bit to come
up short for a team that's playoff life is kind
of on life support.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're gonna break down the film today for you guys offense, defense,
Who stood out, who did not, All of that and
more from the Baptist Hill Studios inside the Baptist Health
Training Complex. This is the drive time podcast. We kick
it off as we do on these normally Tuesday episodes.
This we'll run on either Friday night or Saturday morning,
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doesn't matter. But we're gonna kick it off with the
offense here in some general points to begin everything.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I am glad I saw this tape.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean I see them all, so it's not like
I wasn't gonna see it, but I'm glad I saw
it because I haven't answer that explains to me. The
offensive issues. It's the same thing that it always is,
because this game wasn't sloppy beyond like the first quarter.
From an operations standpoint for the Dolphins offense, it goes
back to practice time last year. It was key parts
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not practicing really every single week down the stretch, whether
it was Reek or Waddle, Reek and Waddle, most Aret
eight Cham. They just had a lot of missing parts
down the stretch that I think produced some offensive incontinuity,
especially across the offensive line, and they sputtered at times
because of that. We didn't have a single practice this week.
Most teams don't on short weeks. It's usually just walked throughs.
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And think about that. We have three TNF games under
Mike McDaniel. Do you know what the record is of
those games, zero and three. Do you know what the
cumulative score of those games is? It's eighty eight to
forty nine. And you could argue that Tua was trying
to create plays in the Bengals game that caused him
to get that injury that really sent that season off
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the rails for a little while. The Buffalo game, the
same exact thing happened, and then in this one a
little bit more of the same, but more from an
operation standpoint and two it took some big shots. Luckily
he's still healthy going into next week. The first two
run plays they ran looked like nobody knew the play.
Liam had this very strange technique and set then the
draw that no one seems to understand what was going
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on there. This team needs time on the grass to
rep this stuff and not just walk throughs at full speed.
And that's why I believe that they got things going
after a little bit of a ramp up period in
the first quarter of the game. The only time we
played well on a short week, I mean, I guess
technically the Buffalo game a couple of years ago that
was a really good contest, was a short week, But
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it was Black Fria last year, and you played Tim
Boyle in that game, So I don't really put a
lot of stock into that, despite what I thought looked
like some early game confusion that led to some of
the penalties and negatives and simple stuff right like the
exchange on that draw, for instance. But what was also
pretty simple was the well they kept going back to,
and that was that little fake toss sweep throw to
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the backside glance.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
What is the glance?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
There are variations of inbreaking routes. Right, the dig is
the hard cut inside ninety degree cut. A post is
where you take it up field and go towards the goalpost.
A slant is a hard press upfield and then slant
across the linebacker's face. A glance is like a mini
skinny post. If that works for you, Like get behind
the second level and just kind of like run a
little bit down the seam and the quarterback pops the
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football right in your chest pad and they wrinkled off
of that or showed wrinkles off of that off the
fake glands and then came back to the front side
dig to waddle. That's just a good job of creating
an exploiting space in the middle of the football field
and it was by far our most effective play of
the entire night. We hit it with variations or that
exact play five times in the game. Alec Ingold's long
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catch and run was a cool drop action by Tua,
who tied to the run fake. He took his drop
like a right handed quarterback, and then Alex collisioned the
force defender that's the furthest outside edge defender, which got
him to turn flat. He turned alec Ingole as a
receiver into the flat naked, which means wide open. Nobody
on him, and Tua found him at the numbers and
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the nearest defender to him on that play when he
caught the football was the line who was at the
hash mark. He catches at the line of scrimmage and
rumbles for seventeen yards. And what's cool about that fake
action is you see the linebacker who could have covered
him turn and sprint vertical to the hook zone. He
thinks that Alex is staying in protection. Really well designed
play to get that wide open seventeen yard completion. And
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what do you know, after a couple of bonkers run plays,
the first normal looking run scheme outside zone left goes
for thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You can go figure. They had a really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Cool concept on the big Wattle completion when it was
fourteen zero. Tyreek runs a Cover two buster right between
the two safeties. That's how you attack splitfield safeties, right.
But when the defense runs the middle linebacker on a
straight vertical drop, that is your classic Tampa two defense.
Split the safeties run the backer down the pipe. That's
what Derek Brooks used to do. That's what Brian Urlacker
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used to do, It's what Zach Thomas used to do.
Then Wattle runs a dig right off of that eighteen
yard indcut off that seam buster, who lifts the pipelinebacker
who lifts the two high safeties and Tua has work.
That first progression to the front side comes back to
this longer developing secondary progression, because you want your original
progression to open up quick your secondary progression to take longer.
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It's kind of how you build the timing of the
passing game to make sure the quarterback can scan through
his protections and play on time and on rhythm. And
that works in this instance because of really good pass protection.
Then he rips it right over the linebacker's head and
right on the money. So there was plenty of like
really cohesive, good looking plays in this game. After a
big play to waddle, Hn gets hit for the six
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yard loss on jet sweep and I feel like that
will garner the old they got too cute in that situation,
and maybe you could say some of that, but they
also scored a long touchdown to Malik Washington doing something
similar against the Rams a few weeks back, a few
weeks back. But the truth is is the packer's edge
just played it really well. Sometimes other guys make plays
where he's playing that backside contained. He doesn't take the
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cheese and follow the inside action because we ran a
fake handoff to I think it was Moster on the inside.
I'm not sure entirely. I'd have to go back and look,
I'm not gonna do it live right now. But on
that play, he just hangs out in his like five
technique position, unblocked and just waits for a Chan to
run right to him. I think the only option there
for eight Chan is to try to angle upfield, but
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it's like two steps away from him at a full
speed sprint, and he has to make that decision before
you can blink. And if he stops, I do believe
that edge which was Mosby, blows him up.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So it's a tough spot there. He loses six yards.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And I hated the next two plays because they essentially
folded the tent or put up the tent, I should say,
and fold it up shot because it was a screen
to ma League Washington and then a check down to
Raheem Moster. And on the Raheem Moster play they dropped
eight and got pressure, So I'm not really sure what
else you can do there. But the play design in
general was basically saying, like this is a field goal drive.
It looked like we ran more gap scheme and a
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couple of times I thought the Packers had us beat
with their pre snap alignment, like running to the left
side a gap, which is the gap between Brewer and
Rob Jones. There's a one technique in there that's between
those two players right off the outside shoulder of the
center is the one technique, and Brewer climbs up to
the linebacker, but Rob is out leverage and he can't
turn him and he runs right downhill. The defensive tackle
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does unencumbered to the running back for a tackle for loss.
And this run game has just been terrible the last
three weeks, and I don't blame McDaniel for not calling
on it because we can't execute it in a variety
of ways. The vision I thought was bad. We'll talk
about devon a Chan's night here in a second. I
thought the blocking techniques were not great, and I think
some of the calls stunk, like this one. It's a
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la carte bad and I want to get to this
on the podcast later this week. But I think I
have the solve for this offseason and teaser. It includes
moving Tyreek and pivoting your offense to more of the
traits that Tua has developed with his short game. Stay
tuned for that later next week here on the podcast
random Note, we had some slipping issues and it stood
out to me on offense and defense, But the offensive
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one that really popped off to me was an end
around to Raheem Moster when Aran Brewer tried to change
directions and just went flying. I thought they'd created some
pretty good intermediate throw options, and Tua hit a bunch
of them, slam and glances and digs, but he also
missed on three big ones we'll get to that here
in one second that were pretty impactful in this game.
And I keep getting asked about, like what happened to
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this base offense of yesteryear, and where are these deep
shots and intermediate shots to Reagan Waddle? And you know,
I kind of explained to on the show last week.
I did the HQ breakdown showing you that these guys
had open opportunities, but the balls going short to higher
percentage throws. And this is why I think that you
can make a philosophical change in the very near future
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next year, because we don't ask Reek and Waddle to
win with their shake and suddenness in the quick game.
They don't run quick game routes. That's not how this
offense operates. We run them on wraps. Do you guys
know what that means. It's where you basically take vertical
releases vertical stems and you try to stretch that hook
zone and then wrap your route around those guys. And
most of the time their routes are coming off of
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like long stems where they can be on the move
at full speed. So the possession and spot stuff is
reserved for the other guys. Because Reakan Waddle's game is
conducive to to lifting coverage and the way defenses play
into that, we just keep taking the other stuff and
so they get open sometimes on underneath throws, but we
are not asking them to run those relief routes. That's
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reserved for John new Smith, for Devon a Cham, for
the running backs, for you know, even a River Craycraft
or a DRMS Like, it's for everybody else besides those
two guys. So I guess that's how you change the
offense if you want to get them more touches for
the sake of getting them more touches. But there's just
not like some secret code to opening routes fifteen plus
yards down the field when teams are playing eighteen yard
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hook drops into you know, three high looks behind that.
It is what it is. They can take away that
part of the field. And those are the routes that
Wreak and Waddle run Again, do you want to run
hitch and flat and these routes to Waddle and Tyreek
where those guys aren't tackle breakers? I mean, when was
the last time you saw those guys like put a
stiff farm on a guy and break a tackle. They
run around people, and the best way to maximize that
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is to run ten plus yard routes and hit them
on the move where they can then exploit safe he's
in space and run past those guys. So you know,
at that point, I think you can then say, all right,
well where is the option to find one of those guys,
because I think that's that's probably what Eric Azukama was
supposed to be in some ways. I would say Malik
Washington is probably supposed to be some of that as well.
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I won't put Obj in that category. He was more
of a replacement I think on the perimeter for Reek
or Wattle should they have gone down. But I look
at someone like Jayden Reed, who was a mid round
draft pick with speed and some skill to develop and
some toughness to him, it would accomplish almost the exact
same thing where he can help lift coverage and run
those deeper routes and you don't have to pay you know,
twenty eight million, thirty million dollars a year for it.
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And to continue that line of thinking, you know, I've
you got to take your l sometimes, and I think
one l that I can kind of hang I can
take in this situation is I didn't really worry about
rounding out your receiver call like a basketball team. I
just thought, get the best players, and for someone like me,
who's an absolute speed queen, I thought, get me more
Reeks and Wattles. But I think I might concede that
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point at this point because the Packers have Dobbs and Wicks,
who are both bigger players or you know, not super
fast players. I should say the Niners have Juwan Jennings,
who is is that how you say? Yeah, Jawan Jennings,
who is an absolute demon blocking and being a possession
guy off the perimeter for them. Deebo Samuel is not
a super fast guy. He does a lot of the
under these stuff as well. The rams, I mean one
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of their best guys is not a speed merchant in
Cooper Cup. So not all of these teams off the
Shanahan Tree have just speed guys. In fact, it's kind
of just us. So I can see the argument for that,
especially in a post Tyreek Hill world where you try
to use you know him as a massive resource to
help rebuild multiple other positions, because right now it's just
not the juice ain't worth the squeeze in terms of
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what you're paying and the type of resources you could
probably get back from that with how this offense operates
and how I mean, the biggest complment you can play
to a quarterback is the way teams defend us, or
the Bills or the Chiefs. They're not gonna let us
beat them deep. And so if they're not gonna do
that like the Chiefs did, this is my whole point.
I'm gonna put in the pods later. You don't need
it then, not at that rate. You do need it,
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but you can do it for cheaper like Xavier Worthy
does that. Hollywood Brown could have done that for them,
like you can do it in cheaper ways. All right,
put a pin in that we'll do on a show later.
On this week or next week.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So the goal to go.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Plays that didn't work were both kind of doomed from
the start, Guys falling down routes running directly into leverage.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The third and fourth down.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know that everyone kind of got upset by down
by sixteen points, a tough sequence. After the first down
play got to the one yard bind and damn near scored.
And on the second downplay Kendall Lamb just lost his
block and got smoked. I wasn't a touchdown there, But
you know, I think our true weakness as an offense
the must throw a situation pass protection plays that kind
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of reared its head late, as as tends to happen
in these blowout games. It happened in the Buffalo game,
it happened in this one. It happened last year. Like
it happens, you get bad communication, bad technique and lost
blocks to a stack. Number starts to pile up and
the game gets wonky. That's usually what happens when the
Dolphins get behind late in these games. Let's talk about
the quarterback. Let's go macro first. I'm gonna talk about
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two from a macro perspective. We'll take a break and
then do his game breakdown and comb through all the
micro Nothing about this game moved the needle one way
or the other for me. On the quarterback, the argument
is big moments, you know, the one drive where they
had to have it. He missed two throws and I
thought he was late on a third miss to OBJ,
so that's three misses and they were chunk plays.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So that's not good.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And that's why I agree he wasn't as good as
his statlane would tell you. And I put a post
up on Blue Sky the kind of graded each of
his games this year, and I had this game. I
think I had it as a seven along with Arizona.
That's where this game kind of ranked for me in
terms of his overall production. I had two games of
the perfect ten, the game at Buffalo and the game
home for New England. The Raiders game was a nine,
the Rams game was a six, and then I think
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Jacksonville was a four, and I believe Buffalo was a two.
So I kind of showed you how I felt each
game went for Tua, and this one was, you know,
on the upper side of his It wasn't the best performance,
but it was like kind of middle of the pack
for him, which which is above average if you ask me.
But it's still this. The tape is still this. He's
the adult in the room. He's a professional. He's prepared,
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he's got great knowledge of the way defenses react and
how they want to attack, and he has total command
of his system and what his system does.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
None of that change in this tape.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He played that way for I don't know eighty percent
of the game, but the other twenty percent were those misses,
and then a trait that is not uncharacteristic to him
because those misses were came up in some big spots.
So he was I thought elite, stepping through pressure, attacking
the line of scrimmage and layering those intermediate throws right
on the money.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Naw Chef's kiss. It was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But when he has to break contain on an edge
that has the angle, that has the contain that hasn't
gotten sunk too far inside, crossing face to the tackle,
and contains their outside post, he's not doing that. That's
not in his repertoire. I can live with that, but
I can't live with it when you peel back and
retreat further away and give yourself nine eleven yard sacks.
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That's the type of stuff that made me disavow Zach
Wilson as a prospect and said, why do you guys
care about this proday stuff?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Go watch this BYU tape. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And why I don't buy the hype on Caleb Williams.
Neither of those guys knew how to play the position
from a quarterback standpoint, and Williams I think still can
develop that, but that's a different discussion. We cannot have
these seven, eight, nine, ten yard sacks. It's going to
kill a drive step up and if it muddies, then
we lose three yards when you get sacked, right because
you're attacking the lane of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'll take that trade off for the explosives that we're
getting as a result to when he does find space
when he steps up to operate from because he's ripping
some of those shots for eighteen twenty yard games down
the field. But that's the root of Tua's primary issue
that still remains in his game and really the only
one that I think that he still holds control over
that he can write. And that's like kind of the
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last step for me. The final boss if you will.
He's never going to be a top RPM guy. He's
not going to rip the ball of revolutions more than
anybody else. He's not going to be a running quarter
and that is totally fine. Most of the greats were
not those things. But if we can mitigate the lack
of willingness to give up on a play both for
the yardage sake and the sake of our health of
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our quarterback, then I think we can say that he's
fully developed and will help nudge him into that category
that exists right behind Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, and Burrow, which
to me are the top four quarterbacks. And actually I'll
put Stafford in there as well, so those the top
five quarterbacks. And he might be falling back into this
category more, but I'm not going to take him out
just because of a few games this year. But either way,
that next category is GoF Love, Purty Murray, Herbert Stroud,
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and Hurtz, and that's sort of my non to ranking,
and if I slot him in based on that, I
mean it's the goth Love and Murray category or part
of the territory top part of that second tier and
the too long didn't read on why that is. You
guys know the common threat in those quarterbacks, right, It's
the ability to play the position. It's the one trait
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they all excel at a high, high level with. And
if he had better physical traits, he would be in
that elite category. It's the one thing that keeps him
out of that category. For me, I have never once
put him in that position because I don't think he
does have elite physical traits. And you have to knock
that at some point, even if you're like me and
you think it's a very very deep secondary trait to
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have as a quarterback. And the last thing I'll say is,
I don't think the results define Tua in terms of
wins and losses, isolate his play, and he is not
regressing in these spots. He has a collection of games
in cold weather, on the road, primetime, YadA, YadA, yad
check him off the blot whatever. Some of them are
very good, right, the Buffalo games that we've talked about
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twenty two in this year. Some are good, some are
just decent like the Rams game. Some are not so good,
like every single quarterback has those different levels of games. Again,
Buffalo was the same, and he was he was absolute
nails the same game in the twenty two season, now
the twenty one Titans game or the rookie year twenty
twenty Buffalo game, abject disasters right last night, somewhere in
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between all of that, closer to a better version, but
not his best. We good, all right, cool, Let's go
ahead and take a break right there, come back and
talk more to a to a talk tie. We'll also
do the rest of the offense and the defensive film
review here on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Auto Nation. I just felt like
it was a good spot there to have a bit
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of a tua dialogue as more of a big picture
thought on his game. I didn't want to do on
the show on Friday night or Friday morning because I
felt the tape had to be watched, had to be
grinded to a pulp to get that take for you guys.
Let's go ahead and continue to go and talk about
the micro this game itself. So the first sack that
he ran into was was rough, terrible. Actually, I don't
know what he was thinking on that play. He had
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a great pocket and he ran himself right into the sack.
Nothing was really open, but I think if he gave
it another beat, he would have had wabble for a
tough layered throw behind the hook at like twenty five
yards and that sack will go to Toront Armstead, but
it's totally one's fault. Or actually no it won't because
it was negated by off sides, but still it's on
the tape. Watching Tua go through his progressions is the
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best treat you can ask for as a quarterback evaluator.
And like this concept that the quick game system is
the only way that he could excel. Like, dude, put
this guy in Detroit and he would at minimum give
you exactly what Jared Goff has given the lines right now.
The way he plays from a clean pocket is untouchable.
It's the best the entire National Football League. The way
the vision is tied to pump fakes and the body
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action that sells the idea the ball is going to
go to where he's gonna pump or try to influence you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You can see these.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Zone defenders reacting to him very very dramatically, both pre
and post snap. With all the stuff that he does,
he's so good at clearing windows and why I think
he is the pre eminent player in the league from
a clean pocket, and it fits so well with what
Mike McDaniel wants to do right. Deception designed to create
overplay and then play against the flow of that overplay.
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All those mechanics being hardwired together makes him so difficult
to play because if you jump something, chances are you've
taken the cheese he wants you to and done exactly,
and move exactly because he wants you to, and the
ball is going to go right to that spot that
you've just vacated, and even if you don't move more
than a step, he's throwing it right when you move,
so that you cannot get momentum back in the direction
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to react and get a hand on the football and
then just to hone in on the micro he's reading
the defense. But then you have to be able to
understand where the timing of the play and how it's
broken down when you move off the spot, for instance,
where it's put receivers in relationship to their route with
your footwork, and the way you see his helmet stripe
move from the defender to his target, and then how
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quick the succession is on that throw bang bang bang,
It's so quick.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's such a treat to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Man. I really do enjoy watching this quarterback on tape.
He's pretty special. Delay of game that hasn't happened in
a while, but I will always go back to the
quarterback for that. So I'm kind of like, what the
hell was that? To a I reference the Tampa two
beater in the general column and the offense. Another example
of Tua's progression play is he pumps to one side
and a linebacker reacts and vacates space, and then all
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in one motion, Tua's head comes back to the backside
to locate Wattle while he's throwing while the motion to
throw the football begins, so he's so in tuned to
how it moves and how you know, like how it looks.
He walks in the putt, meaning you know, before the
ball falls in the cup, he's walking it down the field,
meaning that he threw the ball and started walking towards
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the first down marker before Wattle caught the football, because
he already knows that's where the next huddle is going
to occur. I like it when he gets to the
last progression, it's covered and he climbs to the lion scrimmage,
and that's when he's seeing it the best. We saw
that a few times in this game. I also get
so tired of the arm strength argument because go watch
the Raheem Mostert fourteen yard play up the sideline. It's
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classic cover to the cornerback bumps Raheem and turns him
free and the safety and it's the boundary so it's
the short side, so he's closer to that side. Reacts
as to is throwing the football, which is anticipatory because
he cuts it loose before the underneath zone corner has
even turned hem from So if you want to bait Tua,
you could try it. It's the only way you're gonna
get him. But he's so quick at seeing the stuff
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that if you don't bait him, you have no chance.
And the ball splits both he and the half field safety.
It's this tiny, tiny window that he drills, and he
does it so frequently. I think the Tyreek miss at
the end of the first half was an example of
when you're just one step off in this offense, it
can make misses look really bad. What I see is
the packer rotation into cover three and Tua throws the
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ball with Tyreek three yards away from even clearing the
curl flat defender, and it looks like Tyreek takes one
hard step inside and maybe to a thought he was
going to just kind of keep it skinny up the post.
And you know, Tyreek has told me so many times
in press conferences, I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I didn't know the play. I forgot the play.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So like when I know that inherently going in, my
initial reaction is to blame Tyreek, even if I don't
know the result. That's my inclination. And that's kind of
the place to attack on this look. When they're in
deep third, you want to split those two safeties and
you can throw it, you know, horizontally, which is not
an issue either, but splitting those guys puts Tyreek on
a path to split them for a touchdown, not just
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a twenty yard play, just different pages on that one
step and the ball is on the back shoulder. And
it's a shame because it was a chunk play for
the offense. I did think two was high on the
next one to Devon e Chan, I felt he might
have had a chance to you know, hold it for
a chan to clear the second window, which didn't have
the underneath backer, which I thought forced the throw to
go high. But that's so easy for me to say,
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and I'll say it, well, I'm sitting here eating chips.
I'm not eating chips. Another deal. This is a third
and third and three to open the second half. You
worked so hard to put yourself in a third and
short situation, and because you can't get the snap off,
it turns right back into a tee off pass situation
for the Packers. And then that led to the last miss.
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I thought he had to Odell Beckham Junior, who was
open on that eighteen yard bread and butter dig rap,
but we were a bit behind, a symptom of being
just one hitch late with the football. In my opinion,
I feel like these you know, the bad these last
few plays has way down the earlier good. But it
turned around beginning on the very next drive. The fourth
down completion of Johnny Smith was a thing of beauty.
Hits the top of his drop, eyes down the field,
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senses pressure and delivers a strike to keep us alive
in the game at that point. Then the rip to
waddle on our coolest design where he faked the toss,
faked the screen and then threw that dig to seventeen
that rhymes. Those throws and a collection of other plays
really tell me that this cold weather thing is more
perception for him, for him, not the Dolphins, but for
him than anything else. The elements did not affect the
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way the ball came off of his hand. That's what
you're looking for and talking about, like, is he affected
by this now? It did in Kansas City in that
game last year negative twenty five degrees. It did not
against the Packers at you know, twenty degrees whatever it was.
I mean, look at the throw in the two point
conversion play. That's an insane throw from your quarterback. The
biggest game on those fake toss digs we were running
was when Tua got pressures and drove up off of
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his spot with urgency and threw the ball to Tyreek
on the move, an absolute dot, not to the connected
to the ground. Big time throw there. I just thought
the concept really illustrated a lot of twish traits his
ball handling, his accuracy, his timing, and anticipation with a
little bit of creativity mixed in there. And then the
third and sixth conversion to Obj the slant against the
cover zero when he was hot, he knows he's gonna
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get drilled. He reads that cover zero look and throws
it before Obj's out of the break, balls right there,
takes a huge hit, moves the sticks. So yeah, I
thought TWOA played a seven out of ten in this game.
Some really three throws took it from a ten because
he was playing really well outside of those plays and
then the one kind of couple bonehead sacks, but some
of those late sacks that the game was already over
and we're in true dropback situations and the coverage is good.
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So it's basically the chan tyreek and OBJ throws that
I'm harping on that knock him because those were big
misses in the game, and that's why he gets a
seven for me out of ten in the grading department
Individual standouts Offensively, I thought alec Ingold had a three
play sequence and he didn't play many snaps, so this
is why he gets in here. He makes two catches
for twenty yards and then just obliterates contained defender the
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forced defender on a thirteen yard devon eight chan run.
John new Smith sort of exemplifies so many things about
the way this offense has evolved. The Shanahan offense has
always top players to catch you, and then you get
north and south and you remove the ability of the
pursuit defenders to find you. When you do that, you
just split defenders and get upfield. And he gets upfield
in a hurry and guys just bounce off of him.
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He's so dependable. Him and Tua are on the same
page on those quick hookup throws that look so easy
when they can sometimes lead to tips and mistakes if
you're not linked up. I do have to acknowledge the
personal foul though, and the false start on the opening drive,
like come on, big dog, But another big day for
him forty nine catches in five hundred and seventy yards
in his last seven games. I love the way he
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paces himself into soft spots and zone coverage where he
kind of can throttle down and speed up at the
right times. He's the true definition of a guy that
understands zone coverage. As a pass catcher. I thought Rob
Jones had the best game on the offensive line. Some
of his losses I thought were alignment and leverage based,
which I can't really fault him for that. He has
a great block on the eight Chan touchdown catch and run.
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I thought he had good passpro for the most part
and got the most surge in the running game throughout
the course of the night.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And then waddle.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I thought he made some really tough catches, especially that
two point conversion.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What a great play that was.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
He continues to just bust his button block well and again,
I really hope he's the receiver one next year. That's
kind of where I'm leaning towards this this entire thing.
I like the way that he is competing through this
dip and production as well. It shows you kind of
what he's all about right now. The misses, there were
plenty of these Devon eight Chan, and he makes me
feel like I'm a bad evaluator sometimes because I mostly
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wanted to give him a million touches because he's special.
But then he has some of these bad vision plays
where he takes the wrong track, and that compounds the
lack of forward lean that makes me think we just
need to have a little more from a secondary running back.
And that was Raheem until the fumbles change that and
the last thing on Devon, or maybe not the last thing,
but I think the lack of patience or rather practice
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time hurts him as much as anybody else. I know,
he's a young guy that is, you know, enjoying you know,
South Florida. But then he does things like catching a
checkdown and cutting it against the grain for fourteen yards.
So it's hard for me to get too mad. Just
give him a one B and that's to me to solve.
And the more I got through this tape, the more
I just hated his decisions. I thought his vision was,
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you know, bad decision on the on the big loss
and the jet sweep, a bad decision on the first
play of the next drive. He had a possible touchdown
on a screen that was down in the red zone
as well. Just not his best vision game in this one.
I thought Kendall Lamb has been getting his butt handed
to him the last few weeks. Bordering on disaster. He's
getting no movement in the running game whatsoever, and his
true passts have been bad also, Like I mean Aaron
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Moseby getting a pressure on you on a three man rush,
dropping eight and the coverage and he dog walks you
on third and long, a third and long goal, I
should say like come on, dude, And then that's you know,
that's that play. Shut down immediately stuff because you ate
and coverage, you can't lose that block. To me, it's
time for Patrick Paul. If we're going to sacrifice pass protection,
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we might as well get someone who can, you know,
displace the line of scrimmage running game in a lot
of ways. That game was lost when he couldn't hold
his block on the second and goal run that got
stuffed at twenty seven to eleven. That's a walk in
touchdown if he does not slip off of that block.
I thought Aaron Brewer had like his second bad game
of the year. I think a lot of the help
that Liam had to peel off and give Kendall put
Aaron in some one on one spots versus bigger defensive
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tackles like Kenny Clark and DeVante Wyatt. On third and one,
Raheem has a negative run where Brewer got walked back
and it allowed the linebacker to shoot through and make
that tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So not his best night.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Tea Stead, you know, I can't even say it was
injury aid because they made some bad reason a couple
of plays, and some of those probably weren't his fault.
Maybe they were, I'm not sure. But there's a third
and eight with four to play in the first half.
It's a fourteen to three game. If we convert that,
maybe it's different, you know. And it's a huge, huge
mist assignment. T Stead signals to Raheem like I thought
you were gonna chip help never got there. He releases
into the route. It's a walk in the park sec
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for Inogbray. I can't say that guy's name. And then
the league obviously the punt the dropped the end of
the first half. He just look a little bit slower
on some screens rough night for him. Snap counts, your
left tackle through right guard played the distance, so did
the quarterback. Kendall Lamb played three quarters, Patrick Paul played
one quarter. Waddle played ninety two percent, Reek eighty percent, moleak.
This drop off is consistent every week now thirty eight percent,
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Obj played twenty percent and great Craft thirteen percent, John
New seventy two percent. And this is where I thought
maybe you'd see a little bit more because Durham played,
or rather Julian Hill played thirty four, Durham played twenty percent,
Ingle played twenty five. You think in these games, with
the more running game opportunities you might get more tight
ends and backs, but didn't go that way. And then
run eight chan sixty nine percent nice most are thirty
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five percent, and then both Right and Wilson got one
carry a piece, So those guys are that backfield split
seems to be pretty set and stone at this point
with how it's going to go the rest of the way.
All right, let's go ahead and take our last break
right there. Come back on the other side and to
the Defense Set's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Auto Nation. Okay, Defense, First off,
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want to go ahead and shout out Chris Kaufman on
I think it was Blue Sky, maybe Twitter as well,
but he talked about the Dolphins having tired legs. I
just wanted to agree with that entire thread, and I
thought it was really well put out or thought out
and written out there on those social media sites to
go check him out. I feel like we played pretty
damn good football on the first two series of the game.
The game plan, you know, early was pretty clearly to
me to run games up front with slants and twists
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and stunts and all that fun stuff, which tracks with
what I covered on the preview show. Given their many
offensive line combinations, now they have settled into this one,
going with Sean Ryan at right guard over Jordan Morgan,
and we attacked him successfully on three of the first
six plays of the game, quite frankly, a Campbell run
stuff and a Zach pressure on the first drive you know,
the would be sack fum that was overturned. Then Benito
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had a stack and shed on him at the goal
line right before the touchdown play. The first two were
games and the third was Benito just winning out and out.
But we got negative plays, we got pressure, we held
up against the run, and the only really positive play
that Packers had through the first six plays of the game.
They did have a Jacob's run on the first and
goal play that was nice, but we stack up the
second down play, and really the most effective play they
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had was just an insanely good throw by Jordan Love
to read on the outside. If that ball is a
foot further inside, it's a ninety nine yard pick six
by Storm Duck, who I honestly thought covered it as
well as he could. Because they got Jaden Reid, who
has a really good burst out of his brakes, they
were able to isolate him in a one on one
situation where he's able to square up Storm Duck and
have a two way go from there. And he ran
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right with re on that play, but it was a
perfect throw just out of his reach for a touchdown.
They had some really well timed calls, man like, Lafleur
is pretty damn good at this right he's one of
the best coaches in the league. They had a Tucker
Craft chip release screen called on a play where Chopp
was going to peel back into coverage on his sim
pressure look, and all that did was allow the offensive
line to climb further downhill on him, and just really
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well timed and kind of lucky for you know, to
be honest with you. They ran some two man flat
rubs at the right time against pressure looks and short
yards to create some easy completions for Jordan Love. They
went after our areas of substitution, be it with injuries
or just you know, rotating guys up front in and
out of the lineup for Campbell and Seedler. I still
love our ability to get to unique coverages from different looks,
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Like there was a play that was quarter quarter half,
which is a variation of cover six, or it can
be where you know your deep coverage is a quarter
of the field, a quarter of the field, and then
another player has half of the field and deep and
three deep with Ramsey, Cater and Holland, and I think
you can withstand the loss of one of our three
very versatile cornerbacks speaking of Ramsey, Coho and Fuller. But suddenly,
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you know, those veteran, multifaceted players go from three down
to one when Cohu gets hurt. And no knock on
the young guys, but there's no way they have the
same knowledge and experience as a two nine year Vets
and a third year player. In general, I thought our
pass rush just looked tired, like, which is pretty pretty
common symptom of playing on the road on a short week,
especially when the fourth quarter of the game on Sunday
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played out the way it did against the Patriots. On
some reps with four rushers, you would see our initial
move just kind of like like kind of you know,
lean into the block and then not really have any
type of secondary move or really even you know, leg
drive to try to push the block backwards, just kind
of like give up and hope if the quarterback scrambled.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I can get off this block and make the play.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But there's a reason when the schedule came out that
this was a game you pointed out and said, that's
probably the toughest game on the entire twenty four Dolphins schedule.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I bet you know, as most fans do.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You go, you get the schedule, you go win, win, lost, law,
that's a win four wins right there. I would venture
to guess this game was the most frequently picked l
by Dolphins fans doing that exercise back in April or
May or whenever the hell of schedule comes out. And
to this point, the Packers run game clicked when we
made our line changes. You know, ninety two and ninety
three got breathers. They blocked Neil Ferrell to Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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on the first rep of the game at twelve yard
Jacob's run. So that's been consistent all year long. You
have to have at least one of Sealer or Campbell
on the field otherwise things get dicey pretty quick. And
I still believe that af Seiler had played both the
Arizona and Buffalo games, we would have won both of
those games. Contrasting, I think it's It's like a yard
at one point eight yards per carry better when one
of those guys is off the field for the opposing offense.
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And I think we would have those two extra wins
had seeler and not got poked in the freaking eye
man this season, I tell you what I think the
way they blocked us on the perimeter, tracked with the
missed tackles like they would they hit this end around
to Jaden Reid. I think in the second quarter where
both Christian Watson and Tucker Craft drove Javon Holland and
Cam Smith ten yards off the football and they never
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got off the blocks even after the whistles echoed, and
then we missed two tackles to afford him ten more yards.
It's a tough, tough way to make a living, you know.
I feel like these allegations of cold and checked out
kind of starts with twenty one, and you know, maybe
eight and twenty four a couple of guys that fit
that mold as well.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's what this tape showed me.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Anyways, sometimes really good players make really good plays too,
like the deep ball from Love to Watson on Storm Duck.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's such a tough assignment.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man, They're like, he gets single coverage, and I thought
he was in pretty good shape. But Watson is a
pretty damn good player for a reason. He had a
last second acceleration to kind of run through the football
and get that second gear and Jordan Love through it
in a really good spot to allow him to separate.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
At the catch point. Tip of the cap to those
guys for that play.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So some bad alignments, some well time plays against our calls,
some really bad tackling, some high level plays by a
damn good offense and a good quarterback, and that's how
they were able to control the game on that side
of the football. If you ask me individually, I thought
Ramsey stood out in a big way. I've got I've
got five guys this week on the standouts list. It's
pretty short defensively, who goes there? Sorry, I'm doing this
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podcast from home. Ramsey is here every single week for
good reason.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I mentioned the coverage versatility that we have through our
multi skilled cornerbacks, but you watch the way that he
can cover routes with vertical stems that can threat to
break in either direction or work back down the stem
or go vertical for the long ball. His ability to
cover all those different break opportunities and flip his hips
without losing acceleration allows him to get in position to
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funnel the route to where he wants to go and
then jump where that route goes. It's like so impressive
the way he moves, you know, nine years into his career,
shows no signs of slowing down. In my opinion, Zach Seeler,
It's funny to watch him because I saw a bad
rep on the second drive where he got washed out,
and it stands out because you never see it. I
saw him lose his feet when he tried to put
him in the ground for the anchor on that second drive,
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and like, whoa, Zach got displaced.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That never happens.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But then like the next ten reps or him, you know,
splitting a double team, holding the point against double team
in the running game, getting knocked back, hitting the corner
back to the ground. What a special player he shows
up every single week. Quintin Bell continues to really impress
me with his work in these small sample sizes. I
think he's showing you more as a good edge run defender,
and I think he's playing that curl flat drop that
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he gets like three or four times a game each week,
really really well. We've seen him get home on a
few pass rushers over the last month or so as well,
so Quinton Bell might be something there to develop further
in the future. Jordan Brooks I thought played downhill with
control and beat blocks and was anticipatory had TFLs was
hitting the quarterback a couple of times. He was by
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far the most in tune back seven player I thought
we had in this game. A lot of those run
stops we did have were led by by him in
the middle. Barito Jones had a really solid couple of
weeks here more run game penetration and pass rush, but
the misses were a vast Emmanuel ogbaugh Man, those legs
were tired, brother. I mean the rush opportunities where he's
basically just you know, engaging and then being like, all right,
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where you gonna go, Jordan, I'm gonna stay right here
and hang out and wait for you. He also had
a tackle opportunity three minutes to go in the half
second and two behind the line of scrimmage where it's
fourteen to three and Jacobs breaks that tackle and goes
for twenty yards. You got to make these plays in
these games, Javon Holland, he just came off of two
really good games. I thought, so I don't want to
go too far in terms of, like, you know what's
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going on there, but what is going on there? Because
I remember him like coming downhill and laying out Devin
Duvernet in that Baltimore game in twenty twenty one, or
like his first rep against the Patriots when he up
ended the John hus Smith for a forced fumble, flashing
hoog zones and forcing quarterbacks a double clutch and then
rushing the quarterback and making sex Like everything that's not
at the line of scrimmage to me looks a beat slower,
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the hesitation to make a hit, to jump into a
passing lane.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It looks like a different player to me in that regard,
But I do like the way he's playing down the
box at this point of his career. Tyrrel Dotson. He
tried to sink and stack a few times as a
linebacker and scrape off of those plays and just kept
getting glued to blocks. The way he got him down
on the third and four from the high red zone
on a Josh Jacob's fourteen yard run was really really bad.
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He got picked off by his own man. Plus he
got shook to the shadow realm on that big Jacob's
catch and run. It's a tough ask for your first
start in this game in a short week. But one
thing I was looking for was, you know how certain
guys played into contact situations or the way that they
would approach the pile when things got stacked up, Like
Elijah Campbell came flying in and jumped on top of
the pile, like, Okay, that's the guy that wants it.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
He was kind of patty Cake in it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Dotson was which I thought would be the opposite of
what we get, given how pissed off he was that
these Hawks cut him free. That to me was like
David Long gets the Cardinals bag. I just don't get
Neil Ferrell believe it that Jordan Poyer, I mean wide
receivers drive this guy to Sheboygan like their mulling guards,
mauling guards, mulling guards. On the Packers second touchdown drive
back to back plays, he got displaced a combined five gaps.
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I kind of laughed about that, and then Cam Smith,
I am rapidly moving towards this ain't gonna work territory.
I mean, besides his rookie camp. It's it hasn't been good.
Like there's never one thing to point back to him, like, oh,
that was pretty good. He's grabby down the field. He's
not playing fast and with confidence. His tackling is a
liability on the completion he allowed where he got hit
for DPI. Everything else on that play was sharp, and
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it shows you that all it takes is one missed
to Simon or one filled coverage to make things happen
the way they did. All right snap counts, the safeties,
Ramsey and Dotson all went the distance. Elijah Campbell did
play nine snaps at safety, Jordan Brooks miss I think
it was three snaps in the game, and Duke Riley
played those those extra snaps that he missed Storm Duck
ninety two percent, a career high for him. So ran
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Neil played one third of the snaps. I played a
fifth in snaps. Cater Coo who played just like two
snaps less than cam So right in that same ballpark
after getting hurt, Ogbag gave you eighty percent, Chop sixty
six percent, Quentin Bell forty two So Quentin Bell's rep
count keeps going up here. Seeler played eighty percent, Bonito
played sixty four percent. His has been going up a lot.
Kalay is fifty eight percent, Deshan Han thirty eight percent,
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and then Neil Farrell gave you four snaps in the game.
My top five tapes, I thought Jordan Brooks was the
best player on the field for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I liked alec Ingold number two.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I had Zach Steeler coming in at third, John hus
Smith at number four, and Tua Tongue I Loa was
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Speaker 1 (41:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not gonna do the intro here on these podcasts where
the epic intro seems just a little bit to come
up short for a team that's playoff life is kind
of on life support.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're gonna break down the film today for you guys offense, defense,
Who stood out, who did not, All of that and
more from the Baptist Hill Studios inside the Baptist Health
Training Complex. This is the drive time podcast. We kick
it off as we do on these normally Tuesday episodes.
This we'll run on either Friday night or Saturday morning,
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doesn't matter. But we're gonna kick it off with the
offense here in some general points to begin everything.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I am glad I saw this tape.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean I see them all, so it's not like
I wasn't gonna see it, but I'm glad I saw
it because I haven't answer that explains to me. The
offensive issues. It's the same thing that it always is,
because this game wasn't sloppy beyond like the first quarter.
From an operations standpoint for the Dolphins offense, it goes
back to practice time last year. It was key parts
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not practicing really every single week down the stretch, whether
it was Reek or Waddle, Reek and Waddle, most Aret
eight Cham. They just had a lot of missing parts
down the stretch that I think produced some offensive incontinuity,
especially across the offensive line, and they sputtered at times
because of that. We didn't have a single practice this week.
Most teams don't on short weeks. It's usually just walked throughs.
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And think about that. We have three TNF games under
Mike McDaniel. Do you know what the record is of
those games, zero and three. Do you know what the
cumulative score of those games is? It's eighty eight to
forty nine. And you could argue that Tua was trying
to create plays in the Bengals game that caused him
to get that injury that really sent that season off
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the rails for a little while. The Buffalo game, the
same exact thing happened, and then in this one a
little bit more of the same, but more from an
operation standpoint and two it took some big shots. Luckily
he's still healthy going into next week. The first two
run plays they ran looked like nobody knew the play.
Liam had this very strange technique and set then the
draw that no one seems to understand what was going
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on there. This team needs time on the grass to
rep this stuff and not just walk throughs at full speed.
And that's why I believe that they got things going
after a little bit of a ramp up period in
the first quarter of the game. The only time we
played well on a short week, I mean, I guess
technically the Buffalo game a couple of years ago that
was a really good contest, was a short week, But
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it was Black Fria last year, and you played Tim
Boyle in that game, So I don't really put a
lot of stock into that, despite what I thought looked
like some early game confusion that led to some of
the penalties and negatives and simple stuff right like the
exchange on that draw, for instance. But what was also
pretty simple was the well they kept going back to,
and that was that little fake toss sweep throw to
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the backside glance.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
What is the glance?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
There are variations of inbreaking routes. Right, the dig is
the hard cut inside ninety degree cut. A post is
where you take it up field and go towards the goalpost.
A slant is a hard press upfield and then slant
across the linebacker's face. A glance is like a mini
skinny post. If that works for you, Like get behind
the second level and just kind of like run a
little bit down the seam and the quarterback pops the
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football right in your chest pad and they wrinkled off
of that or showed wrinkles off of that off the
fake glands and then came back to the front side
dig to waddle. That's just a good job of creating
an exploiting space in the middle of the football field
and it was by far our most effective play of
the entire night. We hit it with variations or that
exact play five times in the game. Alec Ingold's long
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catch and run was a cool drop action by Tua,
who tied to the run fake. He took his drop
like a right handed quarterback, and then Alex collisioned the
force defender that's the furthest outside edge defender, which got
him to turn flat. He turned alec Ingole as a
receiver into the flat naked, which means wide open. Nobody
on him, and Tua found him at the numbers and
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the nearest defender to him on that play when he
caught the football was the line who was at the
hash mark. He catches at the line of scrimmage and
rumbles for seventeen yards. And what's cool about that fake
action is you see the linebacker who could have covered
him turn and sprint vertical to the hook zone. He
thinks that Alex is staying in protection. Really well designed
play to get that wide open seventeen yard completion. And
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what do you know, after a couple of bonkers run plays,
the first normal looking run scheme outside zone left goes
for thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You can go figure. They had a really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Cool concept on the big Wattle completion when it was
fourteen zero. Tyreek runs a Cover two buster right between
the two safeties. That's how you attack splitfield safeties, right.
But when the defense runs the middle linebacker on a
straight vertical drop, that is your classic Tampa two defense.
Split the safeties run the backer down the pipe. That's
what Derek Brooks used to do. That's what Brian Urlacker
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used to do, It's what Zach Thomas used to do.
Then Wattle runs a dig right off of that eighteen
yard indcut off that seam buster, who lifts the pipelinebacker
who lifts the two high safeties and Tua has work.
That first progression to the front side comes back to
this longer developing secondary progression, because you want your original
progression to open up quick your secondary progression to take longer.
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It's kind of how you build the timing of the
passing game to make sure the quarterback can scan through
his protections and play on time and on rhythm. And
that works in this instance because of really good pass protection.
Then he rips it right over the linebacker's head and
right on the money. So there was plenty of like
really cohesive, good looking plays in this game. After a
big play to waddle, Hn gets hit for the six
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yard loss on jet sweep and I feel like that
will garner the old they got too cute in that situation,
and maybe you could say some of that, but they
also scored a long touchdown to Malik Washington doing something
similar against the Rams a few weeks back, a few
weeks back. But the truth is is the packer's edge
just played it really well. Sometimes other guys make plays
where he's playing that backside contained. He doesn't take the
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cheese and follow the inside action because we ran a
fake handoff to I think it was Moster on the inside.
I'm not sure entirely. I'd have to go back and look,
I'm not gonna do it live right now. But on
that play, he just hangs out in his like five
technique position, unblocked and just waits for a Chan to
run right to him. I think the only option there
for eight Chan is to try to angle upfield, but
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it's like two steps away from him at a full
speed sprint, and he has to make that decision before
you can blink. And if he stops, I do believe
that edge which was Mosby, blows him up.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So it's a tough spot there. He loses six yards.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And I hated the next two plays because they essentially
folded the tent or put up the tent, I should say,
and fold it up shot because it was a screen
to ma League Washington and then a check down to
Raheem Moster. And on the Raheem Moster play they dropped
eight and got pressure, So I'm not really sure what
else you can do there. But the play design in
general was basically saying, like this is a field goal drive.
It looked like we ran more gap scheme and a
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couple of times I thought the Packers had us beat
with their pre snap alignment, like running to the left
side a gap, which is the gap between Brewer and
Rob Jones. There's a one technique in there that's between
those two players right off the outside shoulder of the
center is the one technique, and Brewer climbs up to
the linebacker, but Rob is out leverage and he can't
turn him and he runs right downhill. The defensive tackle
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does unencumbered to the running back for a tackle for loss.
And this run game has just been terrible the last
three weeks, and I don't blame McDaniel for not calling
on it because we can't execute it in a variety
of ways. The vision I thought was bad. We'll talk
about devon a Chan's night here in a second. I
thought the blocking techniques were not great, and I think
some of the calls stunk, like this one. It's a
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la carte bad and I want to get to this
on the podcast later this week. But I think I
have the solve for this offseason and teaser. It includes
moving Tyreek and pivoting your offense to more of the
traits that Tua has developed with his short game. Stay
tuned for that later next week here on the podcast
random Note, we had some slipping issues and it stood
out to me on offense and defense, But the offensive
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one that really popped off to me was an end
around to Raheem Moster when Aran Brewer tried to change
directions and just went flying. I thought they'd created some
pretty good intermediate throw options, and Tua hit a bunch
of them, slam and glances and digs, but he also
missed on three big ones we'll get to that here
in one second that were pretty impactful in this game.
And I keep getting asked about, like what happened to
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this base offense of yesteryear, and where are these deep
shots and intermediate shots to Reagan Waddle? And you know,
I kind of explained to on the show last week.
I did the HQ breakdown showing you that these guys
had open opportunities, but the balls going short to higher
percentage throws. And this is why I think that you
can make a philosophical change in the very near future
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next year, because we don't ask Reek and Waddle to
win with their shake and suddenness in the quick game.
They don't run quick game routes. That's not how this
offense operates. We run them on wraps. Do you guys
know what that means. It's where you basically take vertical
releases vertical stems and you try to stretch that hook
zone and then wrap your route around those guys. And
most of the time their routes are coming off of
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like long stems where they can be on the move
at full speed. So the possession and spot stuff is
reserved for the other guys. Because Reakan Waddle's game is
conducive to to lifting coverage and the way defenses play
into that, we just keep taking the other stuff and
so they get open sometimes on underneath throws, but we
are not asking them to run those relief routes. That's
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reserved for John new Smith, for Devon a Cham, for
the running backs, for you know, even a River Craycraft
or a DRMS Like, it's for everybody else besides those
two guys. So I guess that's how you change the
offense if you want to get them more touches for
the sake of getting them more touches. But there's just
not like some secret code to opening routes fifteen plus
yards down the field when teams are playing eighteen yard
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hook drops into you know, three high looks behind that.
It is what it is. They can take away that
part of the field. And those are the routes that
Wreak and Waddle run Again, do you want to run
hitch and flat and these routes to Waddle and Tyreek
where those guys aren't tackle breakers? I mean, when was
the last time you saw those guys like put a
stiff farm on a guy and break a tackle. They
run around people, and the best way to maximize that
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is to run ten plus yard routes and hit them
on the move where they can then exploit safe he's
in space and run past those guys. So you know,
at that point, I think you can then say, all right,
well where is the option to find one of those guys,
because I think that's that's probably what Eric Azukama was
supposed to be in some ways. I would say Malik
Washington is probably supposed to be some of that as well.
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I won't put Obj in that category. He was more
of a replacement I think on the perimeter for Reek
or Wattle should they have gone down. But I look
at someone like Jayden Reed, who was a mid round
draft pick with speed and some skill to develop and
some toughness to him, it would accomplish almost the exact
same thing where he can help lift coverage and run
those deeper routes and you don't have to pay you know,
twenty eight million, thirty million dollars a year for it.
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And to continue that line of thinking, you know, I've
you got to take your l sometimes, and I think
one l that I can kind of hang I can
take in this situation is I didn't really worry about
rounding out your receiver call like a basketball team. I
just thought, get the best players, and for someone like me,
who's an absolute speed queen, I thought, get me more
Reeks and Wattles. But I think I might concede that
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point at this point because the Packers have Dobbs and Wicks,
who are both bigger players or you know, not super
fast players. I should say the Niners have Juwan Jennings,
who is is that how you say? Yeah, Jawan Jennings,
who is an absolute demon blocking and being a possession
guy off the perimeter for them. Deebo Samuel is not
a super fast guy. He does a lot of the
under these stuff as well. The rams, I mean one
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of their best guys is not a speed merchant in
Cooper Cup. So not all of these teams off the
Shanahan Tree have just speed guys. In fact, it's kind
of just us. So I can see the argument for that,
especially in a post Tyreek Hill world where you try
to use you know him as a massive resource to
help rebuild multiple other positions, because right now it's just
not the juice ain't worth the squeeze in terms of
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what you're paying and the type of resources you could
probably get back from that with how this offense operates
and how I mean, the biggest complment you can play
to a quarterback is the way teams defend us, or
the Bills or the Chiefs. They're not gonna let us
beat them deep. And so if they're not gonna do
that like the Chiefs did, this is my whole point.
I'm gonna put in the pods later. You don't need
it then, not at that rate. You do need it,
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but you can do it for cheaper like Xavier Worthy
does that. Hollywood Brown could have done that for them,
like you can do it in cheaper ways. All right,
put a pin in that we'll do on a show later.
On this week or next week.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So the goal to go.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Plays that didn't work were both kind of doomed from
the start, Guys falling down routes running directly into leverage.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The third and fourth down.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know that everyone kind of got upset by down
by sixteen points, a tough sequence. After the first down
play got to the one yard bind and damn near scored.
And on the second downplay Kendall Lamb just lost his
block and got smoked. I wasn't a touchdown there, But
you know, I think our true weakness as an offense
the must throw a situation pass protection plays that kind
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of reared its head late, as as tends to happen
in these blowout games. It happened in the Buffalo game,
it happened in this one. It happened last year. Like
it happens, you get bad communication, bad technique and lost
blocks to a stack. Number starts to pile up and
the game gets wonky. That's usually what happens when the
Dolphins get behind late in these games. Let's talk about
the quarterback. Let's go macro first. I'm gonna talk about
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two from a macro perspective. We'll take a break and
then do his game breakdown and comb through all the
micro Nothing about this game moved the needle one way
or the other for me. On the quarterback, the argument
is big moments, you know, the one drive where they
had to have it. He missed two throws and I
thought he was late on a third miss to OBJ,
so that's three misses and they were chunk plays.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So that's not good.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And that's why I agree he wasn't as good as
his statlane would tell you. And I put a post
up on Blue Sky the kind of graded each of
his games this year, and I had this game. I
think I had it as a seven along with Arizona.
That's where this game kind of ranked for me in
terms of his overall production. I had two games of
the perfect ten, the game at Buffalo and the game
home for New England. The Raiders game was a nine,
the Rams game was a six, and then I think
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Jacksonville was a four, and I believe Buffalo was a two.
So I kind of showed you how I felt each
game went for Tua, and this one was, you know,
on the upper side of his It wasn't the best performance,
but it was like kind of middle of the pack
for him, which which is above average if you ask me.
But it's still this. The tape is still this. He's
the adult in the room. He's a professional. He's prepared,
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he's got great knowledge of the way defenses react and
how they want to attack, and he has total command
of his system and what his system does.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
None of that change in this tape.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He played that way for I don't know eighty percent
of the game, but the other twenty percent were those misses,
and then a trait that is not uncharacteristic to him
because those misses were came up in some big spots.
So he was I thought elite, stepping through pressure, attacking
the line of scrimmage and layering those intermediate throws right
on the money.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Naw Chef's kiss. It was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But when he has to break contain on an edge
that has the angle, that has the contain that hasn't
gotten sunk too far inside, crossing face to the tackle,
and contains their outside post, he's not doing that. That's
not in his repertoire. I can live with that, but
I can't live with it when you peel back and
retreat further away and give yourself nine eleven yard sacks.
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That's the type of stuff that made me disavow Zach
Wilson as a prospect and said, why do you guys
care about this proday stuff?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Go watch this BYU tape. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And why I don't buy the hype on Caleb Williams.
Neither of those guys knew how to play the position
from a quarterback standpoint, and Williams I think still can
develop that, but that's a different discussion. We cannot have
these seven, eight, nine, ten yard sacks. It's going to
kill a drive step up and if it muddies, then
we lose three yards when you get sacked, right because
you're attacking the lane of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'll take that trade off for the explosives that we're
getting as a result to when he does find space
when he steps up to operate from because he's ripping
some of those shots for eighteen twenty yard games down
the field. But that's the root of Tua's primary issue
that still remains in his game and really the only
one that I think that he still holds control over
that he can write. And that's like kind of the
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last step for me. The final boss if you will.
He's never going to be a top RPM guy. He's
not going to rip the ball of revolutions more than
anybody else. He's not going to be a running quarter
and that is totally fine. Most of the greats were
not those things. But if we can mitigate the lack
of willingness to give up on a play both for
the yardage sake and the sake of our health of
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our quarterback, then I think we can say that he's
fully developed and will help nudge him into that category
that exists right behind Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, and Burrow, which
to me are the top four quarterbacks. And actually I'll
put Stafford in there as well, so those the top
five quarterbacks. And he might be falling back into this
category more, but I'm not going to take him out
just because of a few games this year. But either way,
that next category is GoF Love, Purty Murray, Herbert Stroud,
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and Hurtz, and that's sort of my non to ranking,
and if I slot him in based on that, I
mean it's the goth Love and Murray category or part
of the territory top part of that second tier and
the too long didn't read on why that is. You
guys know the common threat in those quarterbacks, right, It's
the ability to play the position. It's the one trait
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they all excel at a high, high level with. And
if he had better physical traits, he would be in
that elite category. It's the one thing that keeps him
out of that category. For me, I have never once
put him in that position because I don't think he
does have elite physical traits. And you have to knock
that at some point, even if you're like me and
you think it's a very very deep secondary trait to
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have as a quarterback. And the last thing I'll say is,
I don't think the results define Tua in terms of
wins and losses, isolate his play, and he is not
regressing in these spots. He has a collection of games
in cold weather, on the road, primetime, YadA, YadA, yad
check him off the blot whatever. Some of them are
very good, right, the Buffalo games that we've talked about
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twenty two in this year. Some are good, some are
just decent like the Rams game. Some are not so good,
like every single quarterback has those different levels of games. Again,
Buffalo was the same, and he was he was absolute
nails the same game in the twenty two season, now
the twenty one Titans game or the rookie year twenty
twenty Buffalo game, abject disasters right last night, somewhere in
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between all of that, closer to a better version, but
not his best. We good, all right, cool, Let's go
ahead and take a break right there, come back and
talk more to a to a talk tie. We'll also
do the rest of the offense and the defensive film
review here on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Auto Nation. I just felt like
it was a good spot there to have a bit
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of a tua dialogue as more of a big picture
thought on his game. I didn't want to do on
the show on Friday night or Friday morning because I
felt the tape had to be watched, had to be
grinded to a pulp to get that take for you guys.
Let's go ahead and continue to go and talk about
the micro this game itself. So the first sack that
he ran into was was rough, terrible. Actually, I don't
know what he was thinking on that play. He had
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a great pocket and he ran himself right into the sack.
Nothing was really open, but I think if he gave
it another beat, he would have had wabble for a
tough layered throw behind the hook at like twenty five
yards and that sack will go to Toront Armstead, but
it's totally one's fault. Or actually no it won't because
it was negated by off sides, but still it's on
the tape. Watching Tua go through his progressions is the
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best treat you can ask for as a quarterback evaluator.
And like this concept that the quick game system is
the only way that he could excel. Like, dude, put
this guy in Detroit and he would at minimum give
you exactly what Jared Goff has given the lines right now.
The way he plays from a clean pocket is untouchable.
It's the best the entire National Football League. The way
the vision is tied to pump fakes and the body
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action that sells the idea the ball is going to
go to where he's gonna pump or try to influence you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You can see these.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Zone defenders reacting to him very very dramatically, both pre
and post snap. With all the stuff that he does,
he's so good at clearing windows and why I think
he is the pre eminent player in the league from
a clean pocket, and it fits so well with what
Mike McDaniel wants to do right. Deception designed to create
overplay and then play against the flow of that overplay.
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All those mechanics being hardwired together makes him so difficult
to play because if you jump something, chances are you've
taken the cheese he wants you to and done exactly,
and move exactly because he wants you to, and the
ball is going to go right to that spot that
you've just vacated, and even if you don't move more
than a step, he's throwing it right when you move,
so that you cannot get momentum back in the direction
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to react and get a hand on the football and
then just to hone in on the micro he's reading
the defense. But then you have to be able to
understand where the timing of the play and how it's
broken down when you move off the spot, for instance,
where it's put receivers in relationship to their route with
your footwork, and the way you see his helmet stripe
move from the defender to his target, and then how
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quick the succession is on that throw bang bang bang,
It's so quick.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's such a treat to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Man. I really do enjoy watching this quarterback on tape.
He's pretty special. Delay of game that hasn't happened in
a while, but I will always go back to the
quarterback for that. So I'm kind of like, what the
hell was that? To a I reference the Tampa two
beater in the general column and the offense. Another example
of Tua's progression play is he pumps to one side
and a linebacker reacts and vacates space, and then all
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in one motion, Tua's head comes back to the backside
to locate Wattle while he's throwing while the motion to
throw the football begins, so he's so in tuned to
how it moves and how you know, like how it looks.
He walks in the putt, meaning you know, before the
ball falls in the cup, he's walking it down the field,
meaning that he threw the ball and started walking towards
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the first down marker before Wattle caught the football, because
he already knows that's where the next huddle is going
to occur. I like it when he gets to the
last progression, it's covered and he climbs to the lion scrimmage,
and that's when he's seeing it the best. We saw
that a few times in this game. I also get
so tired of the arm strength argument because go watch
the Raheem Mostert fourteen yard play up the sideline. It's
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classic cover to the cornerback bumps Raheem and turns him
free and the safety and it's the boundary so it's
the short side, so he's closer to that side. Reacts
as to is throwing the football, which is anticipatory because
he cuts it loose before the underneath zone corner has
even turned hem from So if you want to bait Tua,
you could try it. It's the only way you're gonna
get him. But he's so quick at seeing the stuff
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that if you don't bait him, you have no chance.
And the ball splits both he and the half field safety.
It's this tiny, tiny window that he drills, and he
does it so frequently. I think the Tyreek miss at
the end of the first half was an example of
when you're just one step off in this offense, it
can make misses look really bad. What I see is
the packer rotation into cover three and Tua throws the
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ball with Tyreek three yards away from even clearing the
curl flat defender, and it looks like Tyreek takes one
hard step inside and maybe to a thought he was
going to just kind of keep it skinny up the post.
And you know, Tyreek has told me so many times
in press conferences, I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I didn't know the play. I forgot the play.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So like when I know that inherently going in, my
initial reaction is to blame Tyreek, even if I don't
know the result. That's my inclination. And that's kind of
the place to attack on this look. When they're in
deep third, you want to split those two safeties and
you can throw it, you know, horizontally, which is not
an issue either, but splitting those guys puts Tyreek on
a path to split them for a touchdown, not just
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a twenty yard play, just different pages on that one
step and the ball is on the back shoulder. And
it's a shame because it was a chunk play for
the offense. I did think two was high on the
next one to Devon e Chan, I felt he might
have had a chance to you know, hold it for
a chan to clear the second window, which didn't have
the underneath backer, which I thought forced the throw to
go high. But that's so easy for me to say,
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and I'll say it, well, I'm sitting here eating chips.
I'm not eating chips. Another deal. This is a third
and third and three to open the second half. You
worked so hard to put yourself in a third and
short situation, and because you can't get the snap off,
it turns right back into a tee off pass situation
for the Packers. And then that led to the last miss.
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I thought he had to Odell Beckham Junior, who was
open on that eighteen yard bread and butter dig rap,
but we were a bit behind, a symptom of being
just one hitch late with the football. In my opinion,
I feel like these you know, the bad these last
few plays has way down the earlier good. But it
turned around beginning on the very next drive. The fourth
down completion of Johnny Smith was a thing of beauty.
Hits the top of his drop, eyes down the field,
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senses pressure and delivers a strike to keep us alive
in the game at that point. Then the rip to
waddle on our coolest design where he faked the toss,
faked the screen and then threw that dig to seventeen
that rhymes. Those throws and a collection of other plays
really tell me that this cold weather thing is more
perception for him, for him, not the Dolphins, but for
him than anything else. The elements did not affect the
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way the ball came off of his hand. That's what
you're looking for and talking about, like, is he affected
by this now? It did in Kansas City in that
game last year negative twenty five degrees. It did not
against the Packers at you know, twenty degrees whatever it was.
I mean, look at the throw in the two point
conversion play. That's an insane throw from your quarterback. The
biggest game on those fake toss digs we were running
was when Tua got pressures and drove up off of
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his spot with urgency and threw the ball to Tyreek
on the move, an absolute dot, not to the connected
to the ground. Big time throw there. I just thought
the concept really illustrated a lot of twish traits his
ball handling, his accuracy, his timing, and anticipation with a
little bit of creativity mixed in there. And then the
third and sixth conversion to Obj the slant against the
cover zero when he was hot, he knows he's gonna
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get drilled. He reads that cover zero look and throws
it before Obj's out of the break, balls right there,
takes a huge hit, moves the sticks. So yeah, I
thought TWOA played a seven out of ten in this game.
Some really three throws took it from a ten because
he was playing really well outside of those plays and
then the one kind of couple bonehead sacks, but some
of those late sacks that the game was already over
and we're in true dropback situations and the coverage is good.
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So it's basically the chan tyreek and OBJ throws that
I'm harping on that knock him because those were big
misses in the game, and that's why he gets a
seven for me out of ten in the grading department
Individual standouts Offensively, I thought alec Ingold had a three
play sequence and he didn't play many snaps, so this
is why he gets in here. He makes two catches
for twenty yards and then just obliterates contained defender the
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forced defender on a thirteen yard devon eight chan run.
John new Smith sort of exemplifies so many things about
the way this offense has evolved. The Shanahan offense has
always top players to catch you, and then you get
north and south and you remove the ability of the
pursuit defenders to find you. When you do that, you
just split defenders and get upfield. And he gets upfield
in a hurry and guys just bounce off of him.
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He's so dependable. Him and Tua are on the same
page on those quick hookup throws that look so easy
when they can sometimes lead to tips and mistakes if
you're not linked up. I do have to acknowledge the
personal foul though, and the false start on the opening drive,
like come on, big dog, But another big day for
him forty nine catches in five hundred and seventy yards
in his last seven games. I love the way he
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paces himself into soft spots and zone coverage where he
kind of can throttle down and speed up at the
right times. He's the true definition of a guy that
understands zone coverage. As a pass catcher. I thought Rob
Jones had the best game on the offensive line. Some
of his losses I thought were alignment and leverage based,
which I can't really fault him for that. He has
a great block on the eight Chan touchdown catch and run.
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I thought he had good passpro for the most part
and got the most surge in the running game throughout
the course of the night.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And then waddle.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I thought he made some really tough catches, especially that
two point conversion.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What a great play that was.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
He continues to just bust his button block well and again,
I really hope he's the receiver one next year. That's
kind of where I'm leaning towards this this entire thing.
I like the way that he is competing through this
dip and production as well. It shows you kind of
what he's all about right now. The misses, there were
plenty of these Devon eight Chan, and he makes me
feel like I'm a bad evaluator sometimes because I mostly
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wanted to give him a million touches because he's special.
But then he has some of these bad vision plays
where he takes the wrong track, and that compounds the
lack of forward lean that makes me think we just
need to have a little more from a secondary running back.
And that was Raheem until the fumbles change that and
the last thing on Devon, or maybe not the last thing,
but I think the lack of patience or rather practice
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time hurts him as much as anybody else. I know,
he's a young guy that is, you know, enjoying you know,
South Florida. But then he does things like catching a
checkdown and cutting it against the grain for fourteen yards.
So it's hard for me to get too mad. Just
give him a one B and that's to me to solve.
And the more I got through this tape, the more
I just hated his decisions. I thought his vision was,
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you know, bad decision on the on the big loss
and the jet sweep, a bad decision on the first
play of the next drive. He had a possible touchdown
on a screen that was down in the red zone
as well. Just not his best vision game in this one.
I thought Kendall Lamb has been getting his butt handed
to him the last few weeks. Bordering on disaster. He's
getting no movement in the running game whatsoever, and his
true passts have been bad also, Like I mean Aaron
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Moseby getting a pressure on you on a three man rush,
dropping eight and the coverage and he dog walks you
on third and long, a third and long goal, I
should say like come on, dude, And then that's you know,
that's that play. Shut down immediately stuff because you ate
and coverage, you can't lose that block. To me, it's
time for Patrick Paul. If we're going to sacrifice pass protection,
(28:57):
we might as well get someone who can, you know,
displace the line of scrimmage running game in a lot
of ways. That game was lost when he couldn't hold
his block on the second and goal run that got
stuffed at twenty seven to eleven. That's a walk in
touchdown if he does not slip off of that block.
I thought Aaron Brewer had like his second bad game
of the year. I think a lot of the help
that Liam had to peel off and give Kendall put
Aaron in some one on one spots versus bigger defensive
(29:19):
tackles like Kenny Clark and DeVante Wyatt. On third and one,
Raheem has a negative run where Brewer got walked back
and it allowed the linebacker to shoot through and make
that tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So not his best night.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Tea Stead, you know, I can't even say it was
injury aid because they made some bad reason a couple
of plays, and some of those probably weren't his fault.
Maybe they were, I'm not sure. But there's a third
and eight with four to play in the first half.
It's a fourteen to three game. If we convert that,
maybe it's different, you know. And it's a huge, huge
mist assignment. T Stead signals to Raheem like I thought
you were gonna chip help never got there. He releases
into the route. It's a walk in the park sec
(29:50):
for Inogbray. I can't say that guy's name. And then
the league obviously the punt the dropped the end of
the first half. He just look a little bit slower
on some screens rough night for him. Snap counts, your
left tackle through right guard played the distance, so did
the quarterback. Kendall Lamb played three quarters, Patrick Paul played
one quarter. Waddle played ninety two percent, Reek eighty percent, moleak.
This drop off is consistent every week now thirty eight percent,
(30:12):
Obj played twenty percent and great Craft thirteen percent, John
New seventy two percent. And this is where I thought
maybe you'd see a little bit more because Durham played,
or rather Julian Hill played thirty four, Durham played twenty percent,
Ingle played twenty five. You think in these games, with
the more running game opportunities you might get more tight
ends and backs, but didn't go that way. And then
run eight chan sixty nine percent nice most are thirty
(30:35):
five percent, and then both Right and Wilson got one
carry a piece, So those guys are that backfield split
seems to be pretty set and stone at this point
with how it's going to go the rest of the way.
All right, let's go ahead and take our last break
right there. Come back on the other side and to
the Defense Set's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Auto Nation. Okay, Defense, First off,
(30:59):
want to go ahead and shout out Chris Kaufman on
I think it was Blue Sky, maybe Twitter as well,
but he talked about the Dolphins having tired legs. I
just wanted to agree with that entire thread, and I
thought it was really well put out or thought out
and written out there on those social media sites to
go check him out. I feel like we played pretty
damn good football on the first two series of the game.
The game plan, you know, early was pretty clearly to
me to run games up front with slants and twists
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and stunts and all that fun stuff, which tracks with
what I covered on the preview show. Given their many
offensive line combinations, now they have settled into this one,
going with Sean Ryan at right guard over Jordan Morgan,
and we attacked him successfully on three of the first
six plays of the game, quite frankly, a Campbell run
stuff and a Zach pressure on the first drive you know,
the would be sack fum that was overturned. Then Benito
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had a stack and shed on him at the goal
line right before the touchdown play. The first two were
games and the third was Benito just winning out and out.
But we got negative plays, we got pressure, we held
up against the run, and the only really positive play
that Packers had through the first six plays of the game.
They did have a Jacob's run on the first and
goal play that was nice, but we stack up the
second down play, and really the most effective play they
(32:04):
had was just an insanely good throw by Jordan Love
to read on the outside. If that ball is a
foot further inside, it's a ninety nine yard pick six
by Storm Duck, who I honestly thought covered it as
well as he could. Because they got Jaden Reid, who
has a really good burst out of his brakes, they
were able to isolate him in a one on one
situation where he's able to square up Storm Duck and
have a two way go from there. And he ran
(32:24):
right with re on that play, but it was a
perfect throw just out of his reach for a touchdown.
They had some really well timed calls, man like, Lafleur
is pretty damn good at this right he's one of
the best coaches in the league. They had a Tucker
Craft chip release screen called on a play where Chopp
was going to peel back into coverage on his sim
pressure look, and all that did was allow the offensive
line to climb further downhill on him, and just really
(32:46):
well timed and kind of lucky for you know, to
be honest with you. They ran some two man flat
rubs at the right time against pressure looks and short
yards to create some easy completions for Jordan Love. They
went after our areas of substitution, be it with injuries
or just you know, rotating guys up front in and
out of the lineup for Campbell and Seedler. I still
love our ability to get to unique coverages from different looks,
(33:09):
Like there was a play that was quarter quarter half,
which is a variation of cover six, or it can
be where you know your deep coverage is a quarter
of the field, a quarter of the field, and then
another player has half of the field and deep and
three deep with Ramsey, Cater and Holland, and I think
you can withstand the loss of one of our three
very versatile cornerbacks speaking of Ramsey, Coho and Fuller. But suddenly,
(33:30):
you know, those veteran, multifaceted players go from three down
to one when Cohu gets hurt. And no knock on
the young guys, but there's no way they have the
same knowledge and experience as a two nine year Vets
and a third year player. In general, I thought our
pass rush just looked tired, like, which is pretty pretty
common symptom of playing on the road on a short week,
especially when the fourth quarter of the game on Sunday
(33:52):
played out the way it did against the Patriots. On
some reps with four rushers, you would see our initial
move just kind of like like kind of you know,
lean into the block and then not really have any
type of secondary move or really even you know, leg
drive to try to push the block backwards, just kind
of like give up and hope if the quarterback scrambled.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I can get off this block and make the play.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But there's a reason when the schedule came out that
this was a game you pointed out and said, that's
probably the toughest game on the entire twenty four Dolphins schedule.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I bet you know, as most fans do.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You go, you get the schedule, you go win, win, lost, law,
that's a win four wins right there. I would venture
to guess this game was the most frequently picked l
by Dolphins fans doing that exercise back in April or
May or whenever the hell of schedule comes out. And
to this point, the Packers run game clicked when we
made our line changes. You know, ninety two and ninety
three got breathers. They blocked Neil Ferrell to Sheboygan, Wisconsin
(34:44):
on the first rep of the game at twelve yard
Jacob's run. So that's been consistent all year long. You
have to have at least one of Sealer or Campbell
on the field otherwise things get dicey pretty quick. And
I still believe that af Seiler had played both the
Arizona and Buffalo games, we would have won both of
those games. Contrasting, I think it's It's like a yard
at one point eight yards per carry better when one
of those guys is off the field for the opposing offense.
(35:06):
And I think we would have those two extra wins
had seeler and not got poked in the freaking eye
man this season, I tell you what I think the
way they blocked us on the perimeter, tracked with the
missed tackles like they would they hit this end around
to Jaden Reid. I think in the second quarter where
both Christian Watson and Tucker Craft drove Javon Holland and
Cam Smith ten yards off the football and they never
(35:28):
got off the blocks even after the whistles echoed, and
then we missed two tackles to afford him ten more yards.
It's a tough, tough way to make a living, you know.
I feel like these allegations of cold and checked out
kind of starts with twenty one, and you know, maybe
eight and twenty four a couple of guys that fit
that mold as well.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's what this tape showed me.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Anyways, sometimes really good players make really good plays too,
like the deep ball from Love to Watson on Storm Duck.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's such a tough assignment.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man, They're like, he gets single coverage, and I thought
he was in pretty good shape. But Watson is a
pretty damn good player for a reason. He had a
last second acceleration to kind of run through the football
and get that second gear and Jordan Love through it
in a really good spot to allow him to separate.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
At the catch point. Tip of the cap to those
guys for that play.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So some bad alignments, some well time plays against our calls,
some really bad tackling, some high level plays by a
damn good offense and a good quarterback, and that's how
they were able to control the game on that side
of the football. If you ask me individually, I thought
Ramsey stood out in a big way. I've got I've
got five guys this week on the standouts list. It's
pretty short defensively, who goes there? Sorry, I'm doing this
(36:34):
podcast from home. Ramsey is here every single week for
good reason.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I mentioned the coverage versatility that we have through our
multi skilled cornerbacks, but you watch the way that he
can cover routes with vertical stems that can threat to
break in either direction or work back down the stem
or go vertical for the long ball. His ability to
cover all those different break opportunities and flip his hips
without losing acceleration allows him to get in position to
(36:59):
funnel the route to where he wants to go and
then jump where that route goes. It's like so impressive
the way he moves, you know, nine years into his career,
shows no signs of slowing down. In my opinion, Zach Seeler,
It's funny to watch him because I saw a bad
rep on the second drive where he got washed out,
and it stands out because you never see it. I
saw him lose his feet when he tried to put
him in the ground for the anchor on that second drive,
(37:19):
and like, whoa, Zach got displaced.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That never happens.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But then like the next ten reps or him, you know,
splitting a double team, holding the point against double team
in the running game, getting knocked back, hitting the corner
back to the ground. What a special player he shows
up every single week. Quintin Bell continues to really impress
me with his work in these small sample sizes. I
think he's showing you more as a good edge run defender,
and I think he's playing that curl flat drop that
(37:43):
he gets like three or four times a game each week,
really really well. We've seen him get home on a
few pass rushers over the last month or so as well,
so Quinton Bell might be something there to develop further
in the future. Jordan Brooks I thought played downhill with
control and beat blocks and was anticipatory had TFLs was
hitting the quarterback a couple of times. He was by
(38:03):
far the most in tune back seven player I thought
we had in this game. A lot of those run
stops we did have were led by by him in
the middle. Barito Jones had a really solid couple of
weeks here more run game penetration and pass rush, but
the misses were a vast Emmanuel ogbaugh Man, those legs
were tired, brother. I mean the rush opportunities where he's
basically just you know, engaging and then being like, all right,
(38:24):
where you gonna go, Jordan, I'm gonna stay right here
and hang out and wait for you. He also had
a tackle opportunity three minutes to go in the half
second and two behind the line of scrimmage where it's
fourteen to three and Jacobs breaks that tackle and goes
for twenty yards. You got to make these plays in
these games, Javon Holland, he just came off of two
really good games. I thought, so I don't want to
go too far in terms of, like, you know what's
(38:45):
going on there, but what is going on there? Because
I remember him like coming downhill and laying out Devin
Duvernet in that Baltimore game in twenty twenty one, or
like his first rep against the Patriots when he up
ended the John hus Smith for a forced fumble, flashing
hoog zones and forcing quarterbacks a double clutch and then
rushing the quarterback and making sex Like everything that's not
at the line of scrimmage to me looks a beat slower,
(39:06):
the hesitation to make a hit, to jump into a
passing lane.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It looks like a different player to me in that regard,
But I do like the way he's playing down the
box at this point of his career. Tyrrel Dotson. He
tried to sink and stack a few times as a
linebacker and scrape off of those plays and just kept
getting glued to blocks. The way he got him down
on the third and four from the high red zone
on a Josh Jacob's fourteen yard run was really really bad.
(39:31):
He got picked off by his own man. Plus he
got shook to the shadow realm on that big Jacob's
catch and run. It's a tough ask for your first
start in this game in a short week. But one
thing I was looking for was, you know how certain
guys played into contact situations or the way that they
would approach the pile when things got stacked up, Like
Elijah Campbell came flying in and jumped on top of
the pile, like, Okay, that's the guy that wants it.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
He was kind of patty Cake in it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Dotson was which I thought would be the opposite of
what we get, given how pissed off he was that
these Hawks cut him free. That to me was like
David Long gets the Cardinals bag. I just don't get
Neil Ferrell believe it that Jordan Poyer, I mean wide
receivers drive this guy to Sheboygan like their mulling guards,
mauling guards, mulling guards. On the Packers second touchdown drive
back to back plays, he got displaced a combined five gaps.
(40:17):
I kind of laughed about that, and then Cam Smith,
I am rapidly moving towards this ain't gonna work territory.
I mean, besides his rookie camp. It's it hasn't been good.
Like there's never one thing to point back to him, like, oh,
that was pretty good. He's grabby down the field. He's
not playing fast and with confidence. His tackling is a
liability on the completion he allowed where he got hit
for DPI. Everything else on that play was sharp, and
(40:37):
it shows you that all it takes is one missed
to Simon or one filled coverage to make things happen
the way they did. All right snap counts, the safeties,
Ramsey and Dotson all went the distance. Elijah Campbell did
play nine snaps at safety, Jordan Brooks miss I think
it was three snaps in the game, and Duke Riley
played those those extra snaps that he missed Storm Duck
ninety two percent, a career high for him. So ran
(40:58):
Neil played one third of the snaps. I played a
fifth in snaps. Cater Coo who played just like two
snaps less than cam So right in that same ballpark
after getting hurt, Ogbag gave you eighty percent, Chop sixty
six percent, Quentin Bell forty two So Quentin Bell's rep
count keeps going up here. Seeler played eighty percent, Bonito
played sixty four percent. His has been going up a lot.
Kalay is fifty eight percent, Deshan Han thirty eight percent,
(41:19):
and then Neil Farrell gave you four snaps in the game.
My top five tapes, I thought Jordan Brooks was the
best player on the field for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I liked alec Ingold number two.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I had Zach Steeler coming in at third, John hus
Smith at number four, and Tua Tongue I Loa was
my fifth top tape for the Dolphins in this game. Subscribe,
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