2023 Week 10 Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Around the NFL podcast likes to pop their color
and rock advisor.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Never from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.
I am Dan Hansis. Got just one hero with me today.
It's Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler under the weather hopefully back with.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Us during the week.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Greg never wore Advisor under any circumstances, even in the
darkest of my bro days.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Never Advisor.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think I had a little two lane Advisor that
I would pop maybe when I'd go golfing in knowledge
at the city courses.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's about it, though, this is the I want to
photo that.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is the week ten double digits flagship program.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And you know one theme that was starting to come together.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I want to say narrative, but narrative has been turned
into this pejorative, which I don't like because it's being abused.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
So why am I going away from it? Because then
they win?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
But I'm going to stick with it and say a
theme that had been coming together a little bit as
the defenses have in their way more often than not
in twenty twenty three. This week was an exception. Eight
teams GREGI today scored at least twenty nine points ten
scored at least twenty seven. We had a near fifty burger,

(01:27):
We had multiple shootouts, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
We had, for the first time ever, five game winning
field goals on the same day. WHOA, that's pretty crazy.
It's a pretty crazy Sunday. We weren't necessarily expecting there's
some good matchups, but at a lot of good game
winning field goals.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I clocked that there were a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
In fact, at one point, I think we changed one
of our highlights because it just seemed to me there
was too many game winning thirty one yarders.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
But still that tells you the quality of the games today.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So we're gonna go through them all with up Nick
Schuk joining us a little bit later. Let us start
where we must start in Cincinnati, where the Cincinnati Bengals
are looking to keep it roll with Joe Burrow, but
CJ Stroud, he said.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Huh huh, I'm the new guy around here. I'm the
bad guy.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
John Weeks will snap, Cameron Johnston will hold thirty eight
yard field goal of tip from the left hash mark
for the victory for matt Amandola. Here's the snap, here's
the spot, here's the kick. Plenty of leg there's one.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's god the Texans walk off with a winy Cincinnati
oh man.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
They take it thirty to twenty shot Amandola at the buzzer.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, it happens every year around this time of year too.
I feel like where the stakes start building, there will
be the color guy in the booth who just gets
so caught up in the moment.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
No longer a paid employee, he's just a.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Dude yelling yeah because he's happy the team he was
rooting for was victorious. In this case, Yes, the Texans
who get a thirty eight yarder from Matt Amadola at
the gun to beat the Cincinnati Bengals thirty to twenty seven,
a game in which Greg CJ. Stroud I thought outplayed
Joe Burrow, which is very notable.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
And then you think about who Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Is one of the greatest quarterbacks in the league, and
Stroud now has kind of put a stamp on it,
Greg that he is the most exciting quarterback to enter
the league since Burrow did a few years back.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So this could be the first.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Of many big time showdowns between these guys, and I
hope they deliver as many classics as this.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And it's the start of the Stroud MVP quote unquote conversation,
it's we got eight weeks here, but he's in the mix,
leading one of the best offenses in the league over
the last couples and to win this game coming off
Cincinnati's two week run where everyone left it saying, Wow,
the Bengals they might beat five and three, but they

(04:08):
also might be the best team in the NFL. And
not just beating them, but beating them in a shootout
and beating them in a game where they put up
five hundred and forty four yards Dan and at one point,
like midway through the third quarter, were tripling the Bengals
in total yardage.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, they could not stop Stroud and they could not
stop the running game Devin Singletary. For the Texans, this
has been a major issue for Houston all season long.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
They have not been able to move the ball on
the ground. Not the case in this game.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Singletary goes for one hundred and fifty yards, averaging five
yards a pop.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And it felt that way.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
It felt like every time he touched the ball it
was five yards, seven yards, eleven yards.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So he has the big day.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Noah Brown is I don't know He's unlocked something here
with CJ. Stroud that was not going on with Dak
Prescott Dallas seven for one seventy two. He had one
hundred and fifty plus last week as well. You have
Dell putting the roller skates on a cornerback and scoring
a touchdown in this game, and the fact that they

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and we're gonna we'll get into like all the different
like how this game came down to the wire. But
Houston also gave up the ball multiple times on the
Cincinnati side of the field on turnovers, so that they really,
very rarely, rarely were stopped by Cincinnati's defense, and most
notably the exception being.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
A pick six that Stroud throws.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
That was a stunner because the at the time Cincinnati
was down double digit points, there was I believe, less
than four minutes to play in the game. Burrow had
just thrown his second interception of the second half, and
the pick six by Stroud woke up the building. In fact,
a lot of Cincinnati fans are streaming toward the exits,
Greg and they all pour back in.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
And they went down at the one. So Mixon got
the touchdown with nick one yard.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh that's right, my fault. Yes, they get him.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
They take it all the way down, get the touchdown,
force the punt, and the Cincinnati Bengals will have to
They'll rue the day and Soul likes I locked them up, Gregie.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just one of those years. You know, sometimes you got
to take take the.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Bad beats, because I will never feel bad about getting
behind the Bengals at home with Joe Pearl playing at
this level. He hits a go ahead touchdown pass that's
just dropped a bad drop.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
They have to settle for field goal and then shut out.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Tyler Boyd drops a killer one and then Stroud takes
over and marches him right down the field for the winner.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean, this is the stuff legendary careers ever made of.
To have that touchdown drive, with those throws with under
thirty seconds left last week, to tanked Oll and then
to be in a position where it's a third and
six at his own twenty nine, he finds Schaltzefter buying
some time, and then a second and six at the
Bengals forty two with fifteen seconds left.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's it, and he gets it to Brown who makes it.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Was a terrific throw, and Brown makes an even better
individual play to pick up a lot of yards after
the catch, making tackles. That was a big play in
the Bengals season. Because Trey Hendrickson was hurt on this play.
We hope it's not a serious injury. And then you
get the game winning field goal after that. Seventeen explosive
plays in this game for the Texans offense. It's a
game that we shouldn't need it, but it's like it

(07:16):
lets us think even differently about the Texan season, even
then a week ago, even though last week kind of
got us halfway there is this is another level because
they lost about seven starters to injuries last week. Dan,
you know, Damian Pierce isn't in this game. Nico Collins
isn't in this game. A bunch of players in the
secondary aren't in this game. And then to win it
with seventeen explosives. That's the fourth most of any team

(07:38):
in any game since two thousand. Whoa the Texans versus
the and that's against a good Bengals defense.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, you want to talk about a team that
is arriving ahead of schedule. That is Houston right now,
and they are showing themselves to be a team that
cannot be taken lightly not you do not lock against
them because they are a team they could absolutely make
you look bad. And it should also noted that this
game started out to script with Burrow going right down

(08:05):
the field and he throws one of the prettiest balls
you'll see all season. He throws it right on the money.
The touchdown goes to Irwin right down the sideline thirty
two yards and he pulls out Burrow. One of my
favorite celebrations I've seen, and sometimes he pulls out the
archerymove like, oh, Burrow the Archer.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's a great nickname potentially.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But then Houston's defense with Dimiko Rans leading the way
there of course, forces five consecutive punts and gets the
game under control. So you saw the Stroud interception late
that allowed Cincinnati back in the game. But not only
was the offense something to really be excited about, Houston
putting up ten points in each of the last three quarters,

(08:50):
the fact that their defense is making strides as well.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, look out, they've won different types of games.
I think of that Saints win where the offense actually
didn't do much they wanted defensively. It's something special is
Brewing here. We'll get to the Jaguars later, but like
that division seems much more open than we expected.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And then all of a sudden, Greggy Cincinnati they got
the Ravens in Baltimore, and we're gonna get to what
happened with the Ravens today on Thursday night on a
short week, and the Houston Texans get the cards at home.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
So like interesting, I did not I would not have
said I would have happily locked this if I wasn't
bullied over the last few weeks from our friend Nick
Wesley to not taking like six point spreads.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So that help, you know what.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm gonna try to get Nick on the show for
the Thursday night football matchup there too, so maybe you
guys could work some things out, all right. So Houston
was listeners know a finalist for the Team of Around
the NFL. The other finalists and the actual choice is
the Minnesota Vikings, And here was their first game as
the team of atn hosting the Saints.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Dobbs got the shotgun on third down, Cam Jordan got
around the right tackle. Dobbs, we'll cheese nothing now. He
runs out to the left's magic.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
To somebody he turns off five to the side.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh incredible, Shosh Stops put a.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Rushing touchdown past run Minnesota to a sixteen three fleet.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh gosh, Stops true for a career high two hundred
and sixty eight yards. He had two total touchdowns, including
that beautiful scramble.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
The Vikings built a big halftime.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Lead and then held on to beat the Saints twenty
seven to nineteen. That is five straight wins for the
team of ATM.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Whoa that right up? Straight right? I don't know. They
were owing three yes. They get thumbs up from Roberts
behind their glass. They were owing three yes. And now
they are comfortably It's important. This is a very special fie.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
They're comfortably in the NFL NFC playoff picture right now.
So Greg, the team of ATM keeps finding away and
with its Dobs right in the.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Middle of it.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
All.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
That run in for the touchdown was part of a
first half that was magical. It was like they listened
to our podcast during the week and they said, Dan Mark.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And Greg believe in us. Hell, we believe in us.
Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm not just gonna be like one of the best
stories of the NFL I'm watching that first half and
I'm just thinking, this is just one of the best
quarterbacks in the NFL right now. The very first play
from scrimmage a dot I think it was to Addison,
a throw they would tell you not to make because
it was so impossible. I'm sure the expected completion on
that from next gen was like ten percent, but he

(11:42):
fits it in the smallest of windows, and I thought, oh,
this could be a pretty special game. A third and
one where they run an RPO something you wouldn't be
able to do with Kirk Cousins. And then a fourth
and seven, or rather a third down breaking tackles before
he threw the ball. That to me was even more
press of. Then that rushing touchdown where he's just like

(12:02):
guys are falling off of him and he's making these
don't I don't even know who to compare him to exactly,
Just like, just imagine any great rushing quarterback where he
just is impossible to get down, but he's still making
terrific throws down the field. Like he added that all
up and they held on in the second half.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
But I don't care. You can't talk about the second half.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
They had three hundred and eighty eight yards, twenty seven points,
no turnovers. The offense did their job and they showed
they can win a different type of game with the
way the defense closed it out.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, that was you know, I was tracking other games
at the time, but you know when you saw the
halftime stats and you saw the highlights, you're thinking yourself, like,
what are we? Is this the Is this the story
of the twenty twenty three season? And perhaps it might?
And it's almost like the football gods were like, let's
tone it down in the second half here, Actually, we

(12:54):
want to overplay our hand at this point.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And that allowed the Saints to get back into the game.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
And the Saints are a team that seems to be
always dealing with some level of drama.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
They lost their quarterback again.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, Derek Carr hurt his shoulders and they listed him
as having the plural concussion.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Your bull shoulders, No, his shoulders.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I meant to like, it was multiple injuries. It his
shoulder and they tested him for concussion. I need to
follow up on that. They believe because Car spoke after
the game, which is usually a sign actually you passed
the concussion part of that. But he took a brutal
hit on his best play of the game. Actually, he
showed toughness on a great throw to Olave and then

(13:37):
just got absolutely hammered and he struggled before he left,
he had a fumble, he held the ball, and then
Jamis comes in and immediately goes like three for three
and through two of the most improbable touchdowns of the
season according to Next Gen Stats. Actually, I think that
was why I was in my mind. His throat to

(13:57):
Olave was the least probable touchdown of the entire season,
and I swear the other one where he threw it
across his body to at Perry and it was just
a babe, a better play by Jamis even than the
Olave one, which was just an outstanding play by a
Lave and a good throw like those are two of
the best touchdowns of the season.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But then reality always abut yeah, the reality.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Said, And he threw a couple interceptions, and he had
three different chances to potentially have a game tying driving
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
In all three times the Vikings defense stood up.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's a shame too for the New Orleans offense, because
it seemed like they were starting to find a groove
there with with Carr and Kamara and Taysom with a
lave waking up a little bit. But now once again
cars we don't know what his his situation is. Also
Michael Thomas, it should be known he played in this game,
left with an injury. It's not believed to be serious.

(14:46):
It was an the issue, but he was also arrested
on Friday for an alleged confrontation with a construction worker
near his home.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It was living in the police report, so I don't
need to say reported, but according to the police report
or Michael Thomas was upset someone he believed was recording him,
like one on his phone. It was like an a
contractor construction worker next door, and he walked over and
slapped the phone out of the guy's hand. I don't
know what else exactly happened, but he played in this game,

(15:16):
had any injury. They believe he'll be okay. They actually
said they didn't think it was serious. They have a
buy now, so I think there's some optimism car In
Thomas will return. And I do think it's important to
note like Daniel Hunter had three quarterback hits in this game.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
He was leading the league in sex.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I didn't mention him on my Defensive Player of the
Year ranked you know, talk the other day and he's
he's in that mix too, and he was making a
big play on one of those interceptions by Winston.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
He got pressure.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And I think it's cool that, like their defense really
has played like a top ten defense. To me, it's
telling like this was a coaching wink. You give koc
all this Saints talent an offense, and if you give
Brian Flores maybe what the Saints defense has, I think
it's like they would the Saints would then win this game.
I really believe that the coaching in this game particularly

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makes that big of a difference.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Dennis Allen's defense is not making a big different.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Nice start for the team of ATN And just a
reminder that all this Dobbs excitement, the greatest wide receiver
in the world is on the Vikings. He's been out
for a month, but we could see him returning to the.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Fray not too long from now.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So that adds another layer to it, and that went
into the thinking, at least for the old Zeusser of
why this is the team of ATM because you get
to root for a team that has justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
So there's that, and I want to give a little
love to TJ. Hockinson.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
This According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Gregy the second
NFL tight ends is nineteen seventy eight to catch at
least ten passes for one hundred yards and a touchdown
in one half. And that's playing with a tear of
cartilage in his rib area, playing through pain, kept on
getting whacked. That's a guy that you like to go

(16:54):
to war with.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
That's sort of what I'm talking about with koc It's
like they started Brandon Powell. Addison, who was great, made
another really good catching almost a near touchdown. He always
just his hands are great. But they started Brandon Powell
and Jalen Naylor at wide receiver and they're still getting
and not really getting a running game other than Dobbs,
but he ran for forty four, which makes a big difference.
Adding to that, that's what I mean, and yet they

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still find a way. You get Hawkins in the ball.
It's impressive. It's impressive. They're a game and a half
up on that seventh spot right now. At this point
they were actually I would say, considering their schedule and everything,
it's weird to say this with Josh Dobbs, but at
this point I sort of think they're the heavy favorite
to get a playoff spot at this.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Point, imagine imagine saying that or thinking that after week
three when they were zero and three, we might, we
might give you, give it to you.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You deserve it, all right.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Let's head to the big shootout that went down across
the sidewalk here in Englewood.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Here we go, final play of the game. Ryan's going
for the win.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Forty one yard field goal to tamp pashpark left side.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Wait to snap there it is Fox the whole Patterson
the kick, it is up and it is good. They
got it. That's a big line on the final playing
the game. Good won a game. It was back and
forth they went, no separation between these two. Almic Patterson

(18:20):
sends it.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
Through to secure up forty one thirty eight victory for
the Lions.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Great call, great f yeah by Dan Campbell. Run out
to the middle of the.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Deserving a Bungo.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Him man fight pecas See girl brom tongue.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yes, the field goal was.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Good at the gun, lifting the Lions to a forty
one thirty eight win over the Chargers, who had a
lot of pluck, a lot of fight, but they just
could not find a way to stop the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Uh, nobody could stop anybody in this game.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Actually one of those pure shootouts where defense is really
just an idea rather than something that truly exists. And
I want to call attention to and I think we
have sound for it. One of my favorite play calls
of the entire year, and it was so on brand.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
It was so on brand for Dan Campbell and the Lions.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
And yet it was still so impressive to see a
team be so fearless and just believing in who they are.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's fourth and two for the Lions.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
They have the ball, They're already in field goal range
here with one forty seven to play in the game,
they're at the charges twenty six. I understand we're in
the era now where coaches like to be aggressive, but
when the rubber meets the road, there's not many coaches
that are going to pass on a very makeable field
goal this late in the game. But Campbell was smart.

(19:55):
He said, first of all, I believe in my offense.
Second of all, I know my defense is having a day.
And when you factor those two things in he said,
let's go for it, and they passed the ball Sam
laporta six yard gain, And crucially that means Justin Herbert,
who is lights out with Keenan Allen in this game,
does not see the field again. Otherwise, if you assume

(20:19):
that they make the field goal instead there, you're giving
Herbert about a minute and a half to do damage
there and potentially steal the game.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Here is Campbell on his decision making there.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
Going into that situation. You know, if you don't there
can be a lot of time left. You know, you
kick field goal, you know. So I just I wanted
to finish with the ball in our hands. I liked
where we were at offensively, We're playing good golf, was
in a good spot, and and I just I felt
like that was the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
He explains it greg matter of factly, but that was
extremely You have to have like onions, like great big
onions to make a decision like that in that game,
and it seems like it wasn't even a hard choice.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That's part of the reason everybody loves this guy. I
love him too.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
He's a great coach, and I think the contrast between
him and Brandon Staley was so there tonight because Brandon
Staley came in. He's misster fourth down guy, and then
Campbell hoists Staley on his own fourth down. But Tard,
you know, my favorite all time. I don't think Staley
would have been ready for that moment. The thing with

(21:23):
the Lions is you can see what their situational football
reminds me of the Patriots back in the day. And
I know I bring a lot back to the Patriots,
but Campbell knew before that sequence what he was gonna
do in that scenario, Like they get prepared. Brandon Staley,
on the other hand, when there was a big fourth
and one, just the previous drive, burned a very valuable
time out to get everything together before they called what

(21:44):
was ultimately an extremely effective fourth and one ended up
being a long touchdown.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So you can't kill him.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But I always see with the Lions that they're ready
for these scenarios. They sort of have it gamed out
and like the game not too fast for Dan Campbell
in a way that I I think it is for
a lot of coaches, including Staley, who's a defensive coach ultimately,
and I think this game, especially against another guy who's
hired the same year in the contrast and giving up

(22:11):
eight point three yards per play and all these touchdowns
in on a day where the Chargers scored a touchdown
on their last five drives, literally their last five drives.
They are the first team. This is again, I think
from Josh Dubo the Associated Press. To score a touchdown
on their all their drives in the last forty minutes

(22:32):
of the game and not win unbelievable. So like, actually,
Herbert showed up in the biggest way possible and Staley's
defense just couldn't do literally a thing for him.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
And it's funny because they started out they go three
and out the Chargers to start the game. They have
a field goal drive and then and then Herbert throws
an interception. So it starts as a totally different game,
but you know, it turns into what we saw, and yeah,
I think gets you could look at it two ways

(23:02):
with the lines because there's a team that considers itself
a true Super Bowl contender and this was a pretty
epic no show by their defense to consider themselves as contenders.
And you worry how this would look against a team
like the Eagles, for instance, in the divisional round or
something like that, like you have to have somebody that's
gonna show up. I don't think they had a sack

(23:23):
in this game that they could not, as Greg pointed out,
get any type of spot. They had no answers or
adjustments for Keenan Allen, who was just shredding them all night.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
One hundred and seventy yards seventy five yards on eleven matches.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Unreal, and that sandwich dround by the way, he came
out of the game briefly with a shoulder, went back
in the game, came out again and went into the
locker room, and then every time he was back on
the field he was making huge plays.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
So yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Finished the charges with four hundred and twenty one yards,
but that almost doesn't tell the story because down the
stretch they were as unstoppable as any team you'll see
this year.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well also because of their defense. They only got nine
drives in the game, which is not a huge amount.
So to put thirty eight points in nine drives as wild.
Then again, the Lions, you know, did forty one and
ten drives. It's it's just crazy. And I had I
wouldn't say a friend of the show. I'm not familiar
with Mike be at Bolt Tweeter, but he asked me.

(24:20):
He says, Greg, I need you to spend as much
time as possible tearing Brandon's day to shreds. This week,
Chargers fans are begging you, we need help, don't I
don't think you need help. I think the way this
team is going that they just find different ways to lose.
It's just like when the offense plays well, the defense doesn't,

(24:40):
or vice versa. In the end of games, Herbert can
play out standing and then they end up like I
think it's gonna take care of it for you, Like
if this team doesn't make the playoffs, I don't think
you need my help. And I just don't think they're
gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I mean you're right, it's there is that frustration.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Never know, maybe Herbert just like is an FU the
rest of the way, like this was a big game
for him. Maybe he turns it on, but I sort
of doubt it.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean he's coming off a game against the Jets
rare he threw for one hundred and thirty six yards,
did not have a touchdown. Kem Nowen was all but
a race in that game with the exception of a
big catch to help lock down that win on Monday night.
So on a short week for them to show up
and ball out the way they did. And I want
to give a little because we brought it up in
the newsroom, Greg give a little love also to Aman

(25:30):
Ross Saint Brown because he is you know, I do
the Superstar club and that seems ridiculous Steven talk about it,
but he is the first lines player since Calvin Johnson
to record four straight games of at least one hundred yards.
He ended with a career best one to fifty six
on eight receptions and a touch in this game. It's

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just I mean, what else can you ask for from
a number one receiver. It's consistency, it's the production, it's
in big moments, who also played very well in this game,
has a real one there.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
And it's also knowing he's the receiver that he's gonna
end up by the end of the season. I would
guess maybe doubling the number two receiver who's probably will
be Sam Laporta on this team. So that's outrageous, but
they are running the ball incredibly way. Having Montgomery back
is huge. He ripped a long one and Jamiir Gibbs
is making big plays. They run for two hundred yards.
They ran for one hundred and seventy in the first half,

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which is just crazy. And you're right about the Lions
in terms of contending, like who knows, but they are
absolutely contending for the one seed, which seems weird to
think about. But they're seven and two, which on its
own is contending for the one seed. They do not
play a team with the winning record until Week sixteen.
They finish at Minnesota, at Dallas, and then Minnesota again,
which is a very interesting final three weeks. But their

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next five weeks are against teams five hundred or worse.
They're going to be favored in all those games, even
if they lose one of them. They are going to
be in the mix for home field advantage.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
And my last note is.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
An apology to the Lions who are hitting all right.
Buttons I and I'm not alone on this was questioning
why they blew up their backfield because Jamal Williams set
the touchdown record and DeAndre Swift was a really nice
change of pace guy. But David Montgomery had a gorgeous
seventy five yard touchdown run. In this game, he had
one hundred and sixteen yards and twelve carries. Jamiir Gibbs

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had another big game with two touchdowns. They are great,
They are a great ten and there are not a
lot of holes with this team. Well, the defense got
to clean it up, but the offense they can score
on anybody. Let's take a break and then bring in
the pipe.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
All right, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's time now for the Sunday Drive, presented by the
first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. Let's head to Baltimore, where
Gregy's Ravens look to keep it rolling against the Brownies.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
What that's not true?

Speaker 11 (27:48):
A little pause. Here's the snap. It's a good one.
Behold is good. The kick is on its way end
over end, and it is good. But there's a flag
on the field. Hold everything, don't.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Flag me on the Callil Hamilton jumping over and it
looked like he made contact with the brown trying to
do the Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
We'll see, yeah, think of the call like Joe.

Speaker 11 (28:10):
Celebrating from the Browns are celebrating from.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Still go will this will land the game? And that
will land the ball game?

Speaker 11 (28:19):
The Browns have won it thirty three thirty one, and
they've come from behind.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Where's the Siliana. Tom McCarthy with the call w k
r K.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Another field goal the gun, and this one an absolute stunner.
Dustin Hopkins makes up for a yanked pat that would
have tied the game in the second half after a
stunning pick six by the Browns. He makes up for
it with that field goal and the and the Browns

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beat the Ravens thirty three to thirty one. Now we
welcome in White, possibly the largest Cleveland brown fan physically.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean he's a beast. I mean, Joe Thomas is
a Browns fan now, Yeah, but have you seen him recently.
He's you know, trim, and he's pretty strong looking.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm just saying, I don't I would roll the dice
with Shook the pipe Nick Shook feeling no pain, I'm
sure in Ohio today because a game that the Ravens
seem to have completely in hand, they let get away
and the Browns are right in the thick of it
in the AFC North as a result.

Speaker 12 (29:31):
Yeah, biggest famous Browns fan, John big Dog Thompson. I
don't know if he's still with us, but when they
came back in ninety nine. He was the face of
the expansion of the return to the league. So I
don't even come close to that guy.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
But well, that guy seems fine, but I'm still going
with Shook. Yeah. Well, plus we don't know if he's alive,
so to put him.

Speaker 12 (29:50):
To the side, of course, I texted somebody do a
show with longtime friend who is older than me, was
around for the Browns hated in the eighties, and I said,
when was the last time that you saw a Browns
team fight back in a game that looked like they
were surely going to lose and actually finish the job,
get to the precipice of it and come through, because

(30:11):
typically they botched that he texted me back nineteen eighty eight, which,
of course was a bit facetious, but that just goes
to tell you how rare this is for the Browns
for them to go into Baltimore and win a game
in this fashion where they were down seventeen to three
before they could blink in the first quarter, where they
were down by fourteen points on four separate occasions, and
he raced that every single time and didn't hold a

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lead until there were no seconds left in the clock.

Speaker 13 (30:36):
What a game in Baltimore.

Speaker 12 (30:37):
The fight I saw from this team I have not
seen from a Browns team in my life, and it's remarkable.
It starts with their defense, but the offense did its
part too. Deshaun Watson finally had a moment that, you know,
kind of made Browns fans think maybe.

Speaker 13 (30:50):
The trade was worth it.

Speaker 12 (30:51):
He was nearly flawless in the second half, passes of
over ten are yards, a perfect fourteen for fourteen, extending
plays with his feed, even if he did suffer a
bit of an injury during this game. Just a remarkable
performance on both sides of the ball and one that
I sat back and thought, Wow, I cannot believe that
they won that game, because it was a statement against
a team that looks like one of the best teams

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in football, and the Browns went toe to toe with them.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Sugary.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's twenty four to nine late in the third quarter
in this game, and I had said on the Thursday
preview show that I thought this was was the end
of excuses for Watson.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
He needs to be a guy that these type of games.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Is one of the biggest Browns games in a long
time against the Ravens, in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
There's a lot on the line. We all know, as.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Cestog is known to say that they ripped from the
belly of Cleveland, the Ravens. There's always going to be
a lot of bad blood for that reason as well.
And Andrew Ciciliano, who I mentioned minutes ago, longtime Browns fan,
he told me, texted me today we're texting about the game.
He said, he's screaming at his phone on the podcast

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that I would even say that Watson needed to step
up in this game because they were down three offense
of linemen and he was in a very difficult spot.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
And you saw that in this game.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
How I there were not many times where Watson has
a clean pocket to work with and he's taken a beating,
and the stats reflective he throws a pick six Greg
immediately his numbers are terrible. They just seemed dead in
the water. So the fact that the offense with Watson
were able to steady themselves in the second half, it
really was kind of a growing up type game for them.

Speaker 12 (32:26):
Well yeah, you know, at one point he was two
for eleven in this game. I mean, he looked pretty
bad and they looked bad. As an offense.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
The offense.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
He finishes twenty for thirty four, So do the math.
There was barely an incompletion after that.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, he's fourteen to fourteen in the second half. But yeah,
he looked, he looked jittery. The Ravens pass rush was
going nuts, David Clowney was having another big game, and
then it all kind of shifted.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well that.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, the helmet interception pick six by Greg Newsom was
massive in this game. And this is the third week
out of three I believe where all bouncing off a
helmet has turned into a huge play for the Browns.
They're now two and one in those scenarios, two.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Three touchdowns right right, No one.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
The J Paul Adams wasn't a touchdown. It led to
the game winning touchdown for the CX. But it's good.
Maybe that shows that it's going the Browns way. But
I am I'm with you on the excuses. Forget about
the tackles. It's like C. J. Stroud was lighting people
up without an entire offensive line earlier in the season.
The Texans lost seven starters last week and just beat
the Bengals. So yes, if you're gonna be a great quarterback,

(33:31):
you do have to overcome things like that, and it
sounds like Watson did today kind of talk me through
the fourth quarter there where where they do have those drives.
There was a seventy five yard drive that ended with
the Elijah Moore touchdown, the game winning field goal drive,
and even before that, a seventy five yard drive to
get at to twenty four to seventeen, Like, what what
did those drives look like? Was it like the Kevin
Stefanski offense. Was it the Deshaun Watson offense? What what

(33:52):
are they doing?

Speaker 12 (33:53):
Well, it was kind of vastly different from drive to
drive because the first one you talked about, the May
twenty four to seventeen was a methodical drive. I think
it was the law uest drive the Browns had put
together in terms of time and play.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Ten minutes, like in like ten fifteen years.

Speaker 12 (34:05):
I can't remember exactly what the stat was, but it's
been a very long time since they'd put that type
of drive together. They ended it in classic Browns fashion,
pounding on the ground with Kareem Hunt after failing to
do so on the doorstep of the end zone earlier
in the game. So that was refreshing. But then the
next drive, you start to feel a little desperation creeping
because you realized, look, it's early fourth quarter, we're running
out of time, You're still down two scores. They go

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seventy five yards and six plays, and the key play
being Watson rolling away from pressure as he'd been under
pressure all day, looking like, oh no, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 13 (34:34):
Is he gonna get stripsacked? Is he gonna fumble?

Speaker 12 (34:36):
Is he gonna make a mistake, And just as he's
about to cross the line of scrimmage, he finds Elijah
Moore wide open in the end zone for a touchdown.
A connection that has not been there all year. Was
refreshing to see as well. So there were two very
different drives in terms of style. And then, of course,
as you said, the pick six that's really what changed everything.
But even then they get the ball with like four
and a half minutes to go, and I'm thinking, I
don't know, man, full field, like, all you gotta do

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is getting field goal range. It'd be a lot nicer
if you're the Browns, if you were TI right now
than being down thirty one to thirty.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
And yet they followed through.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
They came through, and they killed the entire clock, which
is very difficult to do.

Speaker 12 (35:07):
At one point, I was like, they need to speed
up a little bit, and they didn't. They it was
a measured drive they made. You know, they connected on
pass as David Joki played a big part in the
second half for them. And then the play that I
think he explained it all was who wants this win more?
And off to Jerome Ford going to the right side
and almost the entire offense gets him to scrum with
him and pushes him forward for an extra six yards.
That right there to find who this Brown team could

(35:30):
be because they do play hard and definitely play hard
to the end.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And on the flip side of that, Greg you have
the Ravens, who, by the way, were banged up in
this game as well. Cornerback Marlin Humphrey goes out left
tackle Ronnie Stanley, he limped to the locker room.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
He did not return. It is now that's three.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
They've had a great year over all, the Ravens, but
that's now all three of their losses have been bad ones,
like tough ones, ghastly and that that run that Nick
is referring to is like who wants a more moment?
In the cruci bow of the game. And it's that
DNA that I just wondered about with Baltimore. I know
they're gonna be okay. I know they're probably I don't
want to say they're probably gonna win this division because
it is wide open.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
All of a sudden, they have a half game lead
on two teams.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But can they really avoid this type of blow up
in January because it pops up periodically this team.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
This is a two year trend. Now, no team in
the NFL has lost more ten point leads since the
start of last season than John Harbaugh's Ravens. So you
know who's second, Like he doesn't have a coaching job anymore.
It's Josh McDaniels and the Raiders. So it's like there,
it's crazy that down this game they got out gained
the other two that they blew earlier in the season.

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They totally outplayed their opponents and managed to lose this one.
They have a monster lead and get out played. They
couldn't run the ball nearly as well as the Browns.
There is two things canna be true. I think they
have the the ingredients to go win a Super Bowl
because they're very balanced, and yet there is something about
them that clearly is blows games with leads, and that's
that's very worrisome.

Speaker 12 (36:58):
It's it's the fourth quarters. It was the case against Pittsburgh.
The game against Indianapolis was just a weird one where
they had like nine opportunities to win it and just
couldn't do the job. It's been in the margins, like
they're just not winning in the margins, and it's leading
to these not like collapses or meltdowns, but somewhere in
between the descriptive word I can't come up with right now.
That's what they've been is just like slowly falling apart

(37:19):
and letting the other team that kind of doesn't have
any business being in the game. The Pittsburgh game was
like that, even today was like that. They let them
back in the game and then before they know what,
they look up and they're about to lose or they
are losing. And that's a concerning sign because if you're
a contender, you really want to win a Super Bowl,
you don't make those types of mistakes against the better
opponents in that hall, against.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
The lesser Yeah, now you got the Bengals, Like this
division race is ooh, it's fun insane.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Guess what Bengals are in last place? And who do
you think the Browns have? They got the Steelers. So
Week eleven is going to be a lot of fun.
And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's
Go Places. Learn more at toyota dot com. Slash Grand
Highlander Shook. Let's head to Seattle, another game that went
down to the very end.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Here we go.

Speaker 9 (38:01):
It comes down to this, Jason Myers between the hash
marks from forty three.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
The kick is going to.

Speaker 9 (38:07):
Be long enough.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
The Chickens god another one Buyers went on the last
play of the game.

Speaker 9 (38:14):
But Sehawks facing all kinds of issues in the fourth quarter,
they come back, they score and now they win it
on the last play from forty three yards.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Out deeper Abel Seahawks Radio Jason Myers at five field goals,
including that forty three yarder you heard his time expired
and the Seattle Seahawks survive. The Washington Commander is a
twenty nine to twenty six when shook, we heard there
that exactly how it was phrased. There all kinds of

(38:47):
problems or obstacles.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Is he is?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
What is he referring to for Seattle today.

Speaker 12 (38:52):
I think this game was a perfect example of how
football is very much a four quarter sport because this
was a snooze fest going and a halftime. Guys, just
field goals left and right, one touchdown, and an extra
point that wasn't converted, so it made it look like
two field goals on the scoreboard. I thought, is this team?
Is this game ever gonna wake up? One of these
teams actually going to start to find some success offensively. Now,

(39:14):
Seattle's defense has been young and hungry, good, you know
that and everything else. We've been around that block a
few times. But it was more an example of these
two teams that just couldn't hit their stride, and then
all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the points start
coming in bunches. The last five possessions between these two
teams they went like this, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
field goal, end of game. That's where all the points

(39:35):
came from, because before that it was punt, punt, punt,
field goal, fumble, end of half, all that in between,
nobody could get the job done. It's like they just
woke up and when, oh god, we're playing football. It's
the fourth quarter. It's a tie game or it's a
very close game, maybe we should do our jobs. And
Seattle ended up being the one because they had the
ball last. They did their job better well.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
They had twenty seven first down four hundred and eighty
nine yards. It didn't feel like it, you know, even
in the first half they had over two hundred yards.
They were sloppy. I think it was a big second
half for Gino. Look, there were there were some booze
at what is it, what do they call it now?
I believe yeah, yeah, yeah, there were some booze, which
you know, you don't hear it. There's certainly been a

(40:11):
lot like I, I know you've been talking Gino, and
I've been pushing back, but you're not the only one. Locally,
they've been talking about whether they should bench Drew Locke
and everyone pushing back on that. And he was uneven.
Even though his numbers weren't bad, Gino was very uneven.
Was missing some throws and he wasn't on the same
page with his receivers in the first half, which is

(40:33):
why I think the second half was huge, because he
basically played perfect. Him and Lockett connected ended up with
eight for ninety two. Like that was a great touchdown
past to him. DK Metcalf who didn't really like use
his physicality. I think sometimes like he doesn't play as
big as he is and let a few balls like
contested catches. He didn't get him in the first half.

(40:53):
He's a monster in the second half, including on the
game winning drive, a couple game winning drives, and Gino
had had a couple total dime so to finish the
game the way he did to quiet it down on. Really,
their defense has been fine this year. It's been their
offense that has concerned me. They needed a big offensive
game and they got it. And there's six and three,
even though that hasn't felt like a great six and three.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I would have two drives by Sam Howe that in
the fourth quarter there to tie the game.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I would have went for two maybe yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
The Ron rivera one, And maybe he didn't because he
thought there was too much time left. That is sort
of the analytical way to look at it is Actually,
when there's a minute left, there's such a good chance
they could get a field goal anyways, that don't even
bother to risk it. But Ron Ron's got like the
riverboat Ron of quarterbacks, right, now.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
You might as well go after him. He really is
like Minie Russ.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I was thinking that because he was in Seattle, like
Sam Howell is poor Man's Russ Wilson. Like everything today
that was good was out of structure. It wasn't any
like timing throws.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But they were talking about the good Russ Wilson from Seattle.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, absolutely good, and there were a lot There was
a lot good from how today.

Speaker 12 (42:02):
It's weird because I watched Sam Hall and I'm like
slowly falling in love with his play style. Even though
there's like a boneheaded mistake or two every game, you
know it's coming. He did it in New England and
threw a pick in the end zone. He did it
on Sunday when he tried to scramble too far and
ended up fumbling. But that fumble didn't end up hurting
them because Seattle couldn't do anything with it. But at
the same time, it's the out of structure stuff. It's
the way that he just finds ways to make plays.
And it's the touchdown drives that he had in the

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fourth quarter of this game, including the touchdown pass to
Dianni Brown that tied the game.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I mean that was like, oh, that was a gem.

Speaker 13 (42:30):
Strike over the middle.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
It was so stunning that I think the defense was
shocked he had the ball and then he's in the
end zone and the stadium stunned and they don't know
what to say because they were pretty much trying to
put away a win right there.

Speaker 13 (42:40):
So I love watching him play. I very much agree with.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
It ended up working out well for them that they
gave up the score of that quickly and.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
They sold at the deadline. So this is not the
same team that broke camp. But you know, Washington's defense
was supposed to lift them this year and it's been bad.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
They get the Cowboys twice.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Still, they get the Dolphins, and the Nine are still
in their schedule, So I think Washington is going to
make a quick exit from the playoff picture, but maybe
they'll be fun watching it as they do it.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Let's move on one more show. You want to hang
around for one more do it.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Let's head to Tampa where the Bucks are looking to
get off the sneide.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Heere's makefield shotgun? Look looks right? How back to his left?
Those towards left caught Baull Evans at the five three two.
It stops. Have a burg there you go, fire the cannon.

Speaker 14 (43:24):
Spike Evins really nice, John A.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Baker, he had those happy fi He looked to his left,
who's right, But then he was able to find Mike
Evans coming on an in row right in the.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Middle of the field. I love my Jean dagger off
w f U S.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Mike Evans atoned for a hideous drop earlier in the game.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'm a short touchdown with.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
That bulldozing TD score provided the Bucks with some breathing
room in an eventual twenty to six win over the Titans,
shook e Bucks snap a four game losing skid, and
the Titans are back to being one.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Of the most boring teams in the world. That about right,
Uh yeah, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 12 (44:08):
Look we'll go winners first, because the Buccaneers finally experienced
the sweet taste of victory for the first time in
a month, something that they probably felt they should have
had once or twice prior, and it was Baker Mayfield
leading the way. I my buddy, longtime best friend since college,
was in town this weekend. He works in Tampa. He said,
the discourse down there is that they should consider going
to Kyle Trask, and I said, are you crazy?

Speaker 13 (44:29):
Have you watched this team? Baker's one of the only
good things stopping with this offense right now.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
And Mike Evans, literally every fan base does like if
you lose games quarterback, no matter what.

Speaker 13 (44:39):
There's no context, it's the worst the exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Baker basically won a game last week before I got
stolen away by the kid.

Speaker 13 (44:46):
It was his fault that they gave up thirty nine points.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
But it was also his fault that Mike Evans couldn't
catch a pass today, right wrong. Mike Evans was going
through it on the sideline emotionally. He walks over to
the sideline, he slams a cooler with his fist, he
puts a towel over his head that is in his hands.
He's emotionally distraught because he can't figure out how to
catch passes, and then suddenly he finds it again. And
that's how they just cruise to a victory. And I

(45:08):
say cruise because it was only twenty to six. But
if you watched his Titans offense last week or this week,
you know their ceiling is very low. And that's not
a knock on Will Levis.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I didn't know that even after watching it last week,
I thought they were showing some promise last week.

Speaker 13 (45:22):
Yeah, there's finished the drives. This is the problem.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
This is a big Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Levis had the four touchdown game, and then even on
Thursday night against the Steelers, he was throwing some balls
that were like, okay, you see what Yeah, see what's there?
So I was kind of bummed to be watching this
one from a farm and be like, oh, where is
the sizzle?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
We thought maybe we had a stake on our hands here,
but apparently not.

Speaker 13 (45:41):
Well, you know, you know what the problem is, guys,
is they can't run the ball.

Speaker 12 (45:45):
Derrick Henry two point two yards carried at an eleven attempts, Like,
that's not going to get the job done. You have
a rookie quarterback. What's the best way to help him out?
Get some easy targets to your tight ends and establish
a running game. They don't have that. I think it
starts up front for them. It's not Levis's problem. He's
a rookie. He's still trying to figure it out, and
he's showing off his arm and all that stuff. He's
doing all right, but the offense, just their potential is
not there. It's why they had six points in this

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game today. It's not that Tampa's defense is suddenly great again.
It's that they're playing a team that was much less
capable offensively than the opponent they faced last week. So
it's gonna be tough for the Titans. I hate to
say it, because I was not a Will Levis fan
coming out of the draft, but I've been pleasantly surprised
by how he's played.

Speaker 13 (46:20):
It's just that, you know, one stat really defined it
to me. Tampa's sent the.

Speaker 12 (46:23):
Blitz all afternoon at him because they had no fear
that he was going to make them pay for it.
Because they had no reason to fear it because he's
a young guy and they're just they lack talent in
certain areas. So gonna be a tough one Titans fans.
I'm sorry, maybe he's your future, but this year is
not gonna be an easy one to.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Swazn't shook have that that little boy on Christmas Eve
glow is like at the family party. Christmas Eve party
where it's about six pm. Everybody's you know, had their
dinner or whatever, and now it's becoming real that we're
going home soon and it's off the bead with the
milk and cookies and Santa's coming that shook today around.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
He's just in a great He's in a great happy place.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
He's in that good little boy or girl on Christmas
Eve place, and you deserve it.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Shooky.

Speaker 12 (47:09):
I'm already formulating my strategy to convince my mother to
let me open a gift early.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Oh. I love it, I love it.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I mean, the Calves beat the Warriors the other night.
It is uh, it is Cleveland time, and Bucks fans
like like your buddy or I don't know, maybe he
just lives there and he's not a fan. They're tied
in the lost column for the lead in the NFC South.
There is no reason that the Bucks can't win this
lousy division. I mean, I give them, I give them

(47:37):
just about as good a chance as as the other
two contenders. At least they have, you know, Mike Evans
having this nice browback season.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
He reminds me of t O.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
No one makes more tough catches but drops easier catches than.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
You guys.

Speaker 12 (47:52):
I can even sit back and enjoy Baker Mayfield's play
and have no disdain for him whatsoever.

Speaker 13 (47:56):
Like I'm enjoying watching him play quarter.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
You're in a good place. You're in a very healthy mind.

Speaker 13 (48:00):
This morning I was feeling pretty dangerous and we.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
All love it. Sure, all right, Chokey, Thanks Bud, See
you next week.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
All right, guys, thanks, all right, Let's.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Keep moving to the field formerly known as Hines.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Three seconds left, first and ten at the sixteen, they're
in cover six.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Here's the snap. He's back, he looks, he fires for
the goal line. Peter stepped in, head down his table.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
This game.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Don't kill the special teams coach. You killed the special
teams coach tended to watch him. Oh, it just got
a little heavy over there. Some people got rocked. Packers
got rocked. They sure tough year Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
The Steelers got scoring runs from Jalen Warren and naj
Harris for the defense closed it out with that interception.
It was a twenty three nineteen win over the Packers
in Pittsburgh, Greg.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
This feels like a lot of Steelers games this year.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
They're out gamed at times, they seem like an undercooked entity,
but then they make the play when it matters, and
they get the big stop at the end, and all
of a sudden and they got another win.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
You took the words out of my mouth that I
didn't feel like I learned anything about either one of
these teams. They both continued on the path. I guess
I would say both offenses have shown some signs of
life the last couple of weeks, and that continued. The
Steelers ran for two hundred and five yards, and they
when they ran that well against the Titans, who are
pretty good run defense, that okay, maybe they got something near.

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Warren goes for one oh one, Naje Harris goes for
eighty two. They both have the touchdowns, as you mentioned,
so they had a running game. Pickett still had his
share of struggles, but it's something even for them. Getting
over three hundred yards is something. And the Packers actually
moved the ball pretty well all game. They just kind
of ran out of time and couldn't get that winning touchdown.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Go ahead, log it up?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
What?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh yeah, that's right, I did lock it up. Give
it to me, Eric, Eric, I'm having a down year
in the Locks. At the very least. You you shouldn't
have me engineering.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I mean, I sort of forgot. Mark also locked this up.
So double it up here we were talking about it earlier,
and uh, I just want to say thank if Nick Westling,
if you're listening, I was absolutely planning to lock the Ravens,
but you sort of shame me out of taking these
six the six and a half point spread.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
So you you got me a win today. Thank you.
I'm not even joking. That's one hundred percent what happens.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I mean, you're just that just shows you what living
in a blessed existence in the picks this year. Let's
let's let's face it. You're like the Falcons at the
beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
But this is what the Steelers do.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I mean, I think there it said AP said they're
the twenty second team. I believe Josh Dubo of the
AP to be out gained, I mean nine straight weeks
to start the season, and the other teams that have
done that are combined thirty three two.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
And so that suggests, okay, let's let's let's stop there
for a second. That suggests that this is regression coming
for this team, because it's not like they play in
a bad It's not like, using the Falcons as an example,
they're playing in some dog division and steal in a
bunch of ones. They are in the best division in football,
and yet they have found a way each almost every week.

(51:14):
Here there's six and three now, and you mentioned Pickett,
like he is not making the strides that they expected
into at a certain point you think this is going
to catch up with him, or if you want to
look at it as a positive side of things as
a Steelers fan, they're still figuring things out and winning
and if they ever actually lock into something offensively in
terms of actual some type of style, maybe they can

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you know, this is just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Well, that's so I've been looking at that.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
At some point, if they keep winning these games, they're
kind of bound to start playing better and then actually
deserve to win me games. And I actually think Pickett,
although he was very lucky, there was a call Packers
fans will be going crazy about where it appeared he
threw a backwards pass that was a total that would
have been a change of possession. They rule that it
was not there was There wasn't like a perfect angle

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that was right on the on the right spot to
see it until someone on Twitter, I don't know if
they were in the crowd or what it was, did
sort of have the right angle and it did.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Like a scoop and score or what.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
No, but they would have been a change of possession
and ball ball in the Steelers end.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And I actually was I was encouraged late in this game.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I wanted to point out it was third and nine
with just over two minutes to go and uh and
the Packers did not have a time out, and actually
with exactly two minutes to go, it was after the
two minute warning, and I stunned that they called the
pass there so instead of running the ball, they actually
trusted Pickett to throw the ball and he threw a

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dime for twenty eight yards and it got called back
because of an offensive pass interference. I did lead to
that play, but it was a very aggressive, extremely aggressive
play call, I would say, considering the situation, they hit it,
the penalty didn't happen, and then they they ended up
making the spot. They're not a great defense right now,
but they have been playing well like when they've needed to,
including this game.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
And the Packers.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Was it Lafloor or was it the GM that kind
of put Love a little bit on the spot in
the second half, saying they need to see something still
waiting for him to kind of to break through here.
There's been an issue for Love with Christian Watson, which
has been a surprise. I think a lot of us
saw Watson as a guy that could take the next

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step this year because of how well things ended last year.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Love has ten interceptions this year.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Five of them are when targeting Watson, and you're seeing
almost every week where they just not on the same page.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Well Watson, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
It was a tough throw to try to attempt, but
Love's first interception went off Watson's hands in the end zone.
It would have been a great catch, but ultimately it
was a pretty good throw. He got it to Watson's hand,
it got deflected. That was one of the reasons they lost.
I thought this was I would have to watch it
even closer, but I think this was Love's best game
of the season. They said they wanted to see more

(54:04):
out of them. A third and seven play, touchdown, third
and sixteen play, touchdown, fourth and six play. U picked
it up with the pass that they went. It was
very A third and seven play late in the game
forty six yards, third and ten play late in the
game thirty two yards, and the two interceptions. You could
almost understand you know, you hate the end the game
that way, but one hit Watson's hands.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
One was kind of at the very end. I thought
he showed some progress. All right, let's keep moving here.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
The Niners went into their by with a bad taste
in their mouth, a three game losing streak. Who saw
Dak coming? And they go to Jacksonville to face the Jaguars,
who were on a winning streak. Would the losing streak continue?
Not even close?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Chucking down one a play called losing streak, a five
step drop Jack's winning streak. Oh he's gone touchdown.

Speaker 7 (54:53):
Oh he's strutting, said Fred six level killed the beast
on a wheel route and George Kittle's wheels.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
There is nothing wrong with him.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
They feed they know, Yeah, that is great, keep feeding
the beast. They don't do that really with Kittle. Typically
he only gets a few opportunities in this offense to
make an impact most weeks, and.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
He always seems to Greg popping Tim Ryan with the
call rock Purdy.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Okay, there's another theme Greg that can go by the wayside.
Because he played great on Sunday, throwing three touchdown passes,
including that sixty six yarder to George Kittle and the
Niners snap that three game losing skin with a thirty
four three beat down of the Jags, who deliver a
comprehensive stinker.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
To end their winning streak at five games. Greg, you
won't hear any talk.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
About what's wrong with Brock this week, all of a sudden,
all is well with the Niners.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
No, you won't hear that.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I'm torn which side to start on because both sides
dominated so thoroughly. Let's start with Brock, and I think
he played outstanding. But I also think we knew the
forty nine ers are back early when they were running
the ball well. This is against one of the best
run defenses in the league. On paper, maybe we overrated
the Jaguars defense, but the numbers were great. CMC gets

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one hundred and forty two from scrimmage. The forty nine
ers run for one hundred and forty four. Perdy was
throwing the ball well right off the bat, but they
were in good down and distance situations. I think Trent
Williams being back was huge, like he was particularly blowing
open huge holes. He did it, I believe. On the
Deebo Samuel touchdown as well. Debo had a rushing touchdown

(56:37):
so part of it was just like they're healthier. Drake
Greenlaw looked a lot healthier than he has at earlier
points of the scene. But when they can run, it
all makes sense. And there was like two plays where
Perdy did kind of what I'm talking about, where it's like,
I think he's been the same guy all along, and
like sometimes his crazy plays work, sometimes they don't. His
first touchdown was a wild throw and it was a

(56:59):
really good throw to Auk but it was into like
double coverage in the end zone and he hit it.
That touchdown to Kittle, I think was an underratedly great throw. Yeah,
Kittle like got open late, but Perdy just stood in
there and took a hit. And if it was just
like a half second earlier, it's like that hand hits
his arm, it flies up, it's an interception, so he
can take risk. But I actually think he played a

(57:20):
little safer other than those plays for the rest of
the game, and they just looked freaking amazing. I mean,
they look like the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Again, I think one of the things working against Perdy
beyond just this overall, Oh he was mister irrelevant blah
blah blah, is he doesn't have great arm talent in
terms of strength, so it doesn't come out of his
hand like some of the guys that have, you.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Know, Howitzers to use that.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Adjective that's been thrown around for decades in our league,
which is a very large gun.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Greg, it's kind of funny, I get old, like World
War Two, Like, I mean, there's you could write a
term paper on the war. Like lexicon in football, there's
there's a.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Lot, right, because you could be a basic and say, oh,
he's got a canon for an arm right, But.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
If you say Howitzer, it's like, oh, that gout, Now
that's a man. That's just the way this country is. Anyway.
On the other side of the ball, yes, we should
get there too, the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
And here's something very rarely happens for me, But got
this one wrong, Greg, I really thought this was a
Trevor Lawrence big step forward year.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
I thought I had him as a dark horse for MVP.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And I'm not putting all of their issues on Lawrence,
but the Jacksonville offense, even during that five game winning streak,
you're just not seeing that big step forward. And this
was obviously a flame out at home against the big contender.
They have four turnovers and there just isn't enough consistency
and really big plays in this offense.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Three turnovers from Trevor Lawrence, you know, individually, two picks
in a fumble Like the first half, I thought it
was you know, it was thirteen three at half time,
and I actually think that it was closer than the
score indicated, but they were just making big mistakes. Lawrence
then sort of collapsed in the second half, and you're
absolutely right, there's going to be a Trevor Lawrence. How

(59:09):
come he's not making the leap. He's been a little
bit part of the problem this season.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Conversation this week.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I don't know if I'm ready to go there yet,
but he's not elevating everything around him like I think
he avoids mistakes. Well for the most part, he didn't today,
but he hasn't been making enough special throws and today,
especially like Nick Bosa and Chase Young, they combined for
a sack early in this one where Bosa just literally
just takes the ball away from laur like Lawrence, and

(59:38):
that's what you know, they imagine when they traded for
Chase Young. He was quiet otherwise, but the rest of
the defensive line really ate. So I think it's a
combination of things, as it often is. Their offensive line
for the Jaguars definitely lost that matchup.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Today, And it just it's expectations were so sky high
for Lawrence coming into the league that you expected at
this point he would be in full flight, and yet
he's taken a bit of a step back. And I
think it's just it also shows why sports are great
that you had this matchup where the final pick of
the draft, Rock Party went against the first pick in
the draft and Lawrence, and you saw the guy who's

(01:00:11):
picked last easily outplay his.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Ill him a rival.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Well, they weren't the same counterparts, weren't the same draft
right now that I think about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
It, Howard Serve Howitz, who comes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I I just I think like two things could be
true with people should not be like crushing Lawrence, but
we have people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Are ready to crush though, Like if he has one,
it's it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I can kind of think I can kind of see
it out there. It's like I saw Richard Sherman was
talking about and I and I think what Richard Sherman
is saying is right, is that we were told he
was generational, and to this point, on balance it hasn't
been generational. But even this year, I would say he's
been good. He's not the first thing. I just was
a little surprised that both their lines what were dominated.

(01:00:58):
It kind of reminds me of that even Seahawks game
last week, where it's like, yes, Gno played bad in
that Seahawks Ravens game, but both lines were just so
dominant for the Ravens on both sides of the ball.
That's like, well, it's hard to really just talk about
the quarterback, like the team was just so much better.
And that was the case. This was a measuring stick
game in Jacksonville. They were talking about it and they
got whacked with that stick. Forty nine ers took that

(01:01:20):
stick out and Nick Wesseling had a great lock here.
I would give them credit for that. This is this
was the game two lock, thirty four to three.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, that is sane.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I don't know if the Nick's lost the lock in
quite a bit now, so the Zoo is starting to
feel itself led by Nick. I think he called himself
the keeper, which.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Is I mean he lost branding.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
I still remember that Jets one maybe that was that
was the win that really turned the Zoo's season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I mean, you should talk. You've been falling into locks
this season every week. Please none of it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I was gonna lock this and then I accidentally locked that.
It all worked out for me. How many times do
I have to hear the same themes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So my math is correct, it would be Greg at
nine and one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Now see I didn't ask either, But no, I'm saying,
because you're talking about the West Bros.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
They are I think that would put them two behind.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Okay, seven, I know, Dan, I'm sorry, but we don't
need to dwell on my failure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You know, I'll just clip this together. We don't even
have to bring it up again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
We'll just neatly just clip this out in the edit
and no one will have ever heard it. All right,
let's keep moving, uh and head to the desert where
Kyler Murray's back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
How about that? Here we go.

Speaker 14 (01:02:32):
The snap's good, the balls down, the kick is up,
and the kick is good, and the Cardinals win it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Twenty five twenty four. Now, welcome back Kyler.

Speaker 14 (01:02:44):
Kyler Murray engineering but game winning drive and Arizona gets
its second win of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
It awesn't get any better than that. For Kyler Murray's return.
I like that. That's like an actual human being, like
go to the grocery store, but get me off a polarm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Like he lives his entire life talking like that, and
everyone around him has to act like it's normal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Who is that Wolfley?

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yeah, which Wolfy? Because we got a rotten Ronnie wolf Yeah.
They're actually surprised me today. I didn't notice making up
our little call sheet. There are quite a few.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Wolf Lees in the Uh yeah, that's in the color
commentary business.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
See, because we automatically say, oh, game winning field goal,
let's use that as a highlight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
We should have went with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Some Kyler magic there, because who wants to watch a
twenty three yarder in any capacity?

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Matt Prater's still getting it done. Big time production meeting
after the show today. Here we got one Eric Roberts
in a big spot. Randy got me here, give it
to me.

Speaker 14 (01:03:45):
Funk shotgun snap. Murray backs up to fifty Yeah, near side.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
It is undercrof homa bang at the ten yard line
by McBride. He gets up to run and he's tackled
at the nines McBride the first Cardinal tie in thirty
four years with a one hundred yard receiving game and
the Cardinals goal we need will flee uh ooh on

(01:04:12):
lock time one quarter pound of swets.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
That was good. I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Kyler Murray threw for two hundred and forty nine yards,
including that big tight end hookup to set up the
game winner by Matt Prater. Kyle also ran for a
touchdown in his return from reconstructive knee surgery, and the
Cards snap a six game losing streak, edging the Falcons
twenty five to twenty three. GREGI watching the highlights here

(01:04:39):
reminded me how much I missed. I didn't think I
would feel this way because he's never been my favorite player,
But I miss seeing Kyler Murray, those tiny legs and
a China helmet, just wreaking havoc on the second level
of defenses.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I know I was gassing Kyler up on Twitter today
and so many of the responses are just like, he
looks so small out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I think people just like weren't youth. They forgot not
seeing them. And it's the helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
The helmet, really, it's seven times the size of a
standard a helmet in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
But he's a legit, you know, top ten talent at
quarterback and I would say a borderline just top ten
quarterback period. And it was really exciting because he was
just back. There was like maybe there will be rest
in future weeks. But he did the things that Kyler did,
like that throw to McBride not a great throw, but
the decision was awesome that they he decided to be

(01:05:28):
so aggressive in that spot. He saw the matchup that
he liked, he went for it, and I think he
made really good decisions throughout the game, so that that
might be a good sign moving forward for this offense.
Drew Petsick, who did such a nice job with Dobbs
that like it's gonna be a match like the offense
made sense, they moved the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I thought they looked like the better team.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
And he also had a thirteen yard scramble during that
game winning drive to keep it alive, and to me,
that was you know, the play of the game where
Murray traveled sixty eight point nine yards on that scramble.
He essentially ran back thirty yards then ran forward about
forty and he had a top speed and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It's not going to get to what do you like?
You wantant it? Well, it's everybody's twenty one. I want twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
I mean he'd even got close to that. He only
got to twenty point one seven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
But it was his Skyler. This is Kyler. We actually
have the sound of that play. Let's go to it.
We got all this sound. Fake me out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I mean right after I did my NFL Plus segment
on the short Kings of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
It's a trend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
It's his fastest speed though since twenty twenty one, so
faster than anything you did actually, so it kind of
showed he looked like he had juice and he looked
like a good quarterback today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
And Jonathan Gannon, you know, had a conversation with Kyler
Murray before the end. Because the Cardinals, who are a
team obviously in big time transition trying to figure out
their future, they did have the option of keeping him
out of play this season and protecting themselves financially. They
instead decide to get a look at Kyler, and apparently

(01:06:56):
they're going to give him very little in terms of restrictions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Here's a again after the.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Game before this week about I think tempering what we
said from Kyler when we.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Saw that out there to day. Did he surprise you
at all?

Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
Or maybe that's why he laughed at me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Kyler Murray does not lack for confidence, and I get
that that. The Gannon was almost saying, maybe you should
temper your expectations. Kyler like, let's not, you know, get
carried away, and he was just like laughing. He's like,
come on, man, I'm Kyler Murray. I'm no Desmon rhddor
I'm no Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
What happened with the Falcons in this game? Heinikey no,
tell me Don riders back in my life?

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
He is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I think he's going to be the quarterback after the
bye week because heinike and the Falcons averaged one point
five yards per drop back, one point five under four
yards per attempt. When Heinecke actually threw the ball, and
it was very ridder like he was just holding onto
the ball forever. They couldn't do anything throwing the ball,
and it wasted a very nice Bajon Robinson game where

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he goes over one hundred yards. They gave the football
yes and gets a touchdown. They did what everyone asked.
They used him in the red zone and they in
Heineke had a couple of runs. They ran the ball well,
I think they got what one hundred and eighty four
yards on the ground, and yet Heinik couldn't do anything
throwing the ball, and then he heard his hamstring and
he went out. Ridder comes in and Ritter didn't do much,

(01:08:17):
but he didn't do anything negatively, and he did run
for a game winning touchdown if the defense had just
held onto it. They had a seventy four yard fourth
quarter drive to take the lead when they were down
five points. And to me, I think Arthur Smith's probably
just looking for an excuse to put Ridder back in anyways,
and he said he wanted to take the buy and

(01:08:38):
then make decision.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Heinez go. Who knows how long he might be out
anyways with the hamstring injury. So I think it's back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
And if Heinike could be frustrated. But if you throw
for fifty five yards and three quarters before getting hurt,
you leave yourself vulnerable to lose that gig. All right,
let's take a break here and then we'll finish up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
You may remember the first Sunday night football game of
the year. It was a disaster for the Giants forty
to nothing the loss to the Cowboys, and it was
a sign of things to come. The rematch with Tommy
DeVito behind center, it wasn't much better.

Speaker 8 (01:09:14):
Second and ten back to throw, Tyron Smith locks a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Up right side of the end zone.

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
Lamb, Hello CD touchdown Ceedee Lamb. Lamb now has a
touchdown rushing and a touchdown receiving, and Aubrey will line
up for the extra point that would make it forty
two to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Oh my goodness, bra had sham the sham got friend
of the Show. Amazing Greg, which is one pep talk
from tugboat. Then for ceedee Lamb, you take that press.
He has been the best wide receiver in the league
for three weeks now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Maybe maybe you're a little too harsh on you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
You go look at look how it's different now, Look
at the difference the ends zones being found. He is
in the middle of everything and the Cowboys are humming.
Dak Prescott through for four hundred and four yards and
four touchdowns. He ran for another score. This is one
of the greatest stack games you'll see. And I know
it's against the Giants, but I'm just saying it is.
It was just taking candy from a baby. Cowboys rout

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the Giants for the second time this season, forty nine
to seventeen. The home winning streak for the Cowboys quietly
is up to twelve games. And I'm gonna do some
quick math here. Nine forty eighty nine to seventeen seventy
two point margin, the largest in the sweep of an

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NFC East opponent ever for the Cowboys. So yeah, if
they could play the Giants every week, they would be
the greatest team ever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
As it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
As it is, they're six and three, Greg and a
couple bumps in the road, of course, but man, when
this team is in full flight, they are fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Well, just box score like. And there was a couple
of numbers that I was like, is this number right?
First of all, you just said it six and three?
I was like, oh, yeah, the Cowboys are only six
and three. Why does it feel like they're better than that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
They have the same record as the Pittsburgh Steelers and
the Seahawks, so that it doesn't quite compute.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I think the Cowboys had more total yards in this
game of the Steelers have had all year, So.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Right, The other number is six hundred and forty yards
right thirty two first downs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
At one point in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The six forty twelve yards shy of the franchise record
greg today.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
At one point in this game was three hundred and
sixty eight yards to twenty seven. So there was the
proverbial lipstick on a pick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Dak got ye.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I know it was against the Giants, but he's been
fantastic for four weeks. I don't know if you can
keep this up the rest of the way, but for
four weeks, nine point three yards per attempt, twelve touchdowns,
I think he's been the best quarterback in the league
for those four weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I was going to say, I think for those four
weeks in a wide open year, in this particular race,
I think he is in the capital T capital C
convo for the MVP now because his numbers are starting
to really get inflated. He's playing for a team that
is fighting for a division. It's the Cowboys, and I
think he really has a chance here. And he saw

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some things and again you just don't want to get
too crazy about it, because the Giants are they're moribund.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
We know that this is this is they're the worst
team in the NFL. I guess the Panthers are close, but.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Now with you have Tommy DeVito at quarterback in addition
to all their other issues. And yes, I agree they
are the worst team in football. But they got big games,
yes from Ceedee Lamb who was a monster eleven for
one point fifty one, but Brandon Cooks came to life.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
They've been waiting all season for Brandon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Cooks to be that guy that gives their offense balance
and somebody that could take the top off nine for
one seventy three and a touch on ten targets. Michael
Gallup even got in the mix of two touchdown catches
in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Jake Ferguson continues to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Flash as a real guy at tight end and someone
that they can continue to build around. They're still waiting
for Tony Pollard to come around, and that's starting to
become a real issue, I think for this team, because
even in this bloodbath where they nearly set the franchise record,
he's averaging three point seven yards per carry, ric O'Donnell
outgained him. At a certain point, they might have to

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start looking at a timeshare with Pollard to try to
see if maybe there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Way to unlock him. But that's a minor quibble.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Everything else here tells you that the Cowboys have all
the pieces to continue to build on this Texas Coast offense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I think the last two weeks and the sham God
pointed out in that highlight cost showsway he's so good
that Tyron Smith locking down whoever was rushing the passer.
The Giants defensive line has kind of fallen apart late
for the last two weeks after being good. Tyron Smith
and Tyler Smith next to each other the last two weeks,
especially like two weeks ago they were outstanding against Philadelphia

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and Tyron Smith has been struggling with injuries. If they
get him back to being I'm not saying like Hall
of Fame caliber Tyron Smith, but back to close to
what he can be, and then Tyler Smith to me
is one of the best young offensive linemen in the
entire league. Those two guys next to each other on
the left side, like you can build. They got a
lot to build around on offense. But that's another huge
sort of weapon that they got this Giboys team.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
No, you kind of you want to see that next
big test for him, you know, like you want to
see how they rise in that situation, and the Giants
just want to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
They just want the season to be over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
They are very much in play for the top quarterback
in the draft class.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
So I kind of look into this one, jerks. But
what you know, what you just got, we'll see, we'll
get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
But I am tracking tankathon and there is a big
Giants Patriots game coming up next to next week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
You know, Bill doesn't want to lose to the Giants. Well,
neither team I think is trying to lose, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
But all right, well, last one before Sunday Night football,
Let's head to Germany where the international series came to end.
It was the I believe fiftieth international game for the NFL,
so they celebrated by sending mac Jones to the people
of Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Fourth and one converse with the Patriots. The clock is
moving on them though they're out of timeouts, and Zappi
fakes He fakes a Crockyeld the goalie fined.

Speaker 12 (01:15:08):
To that field, picked off by the Colts in by.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Rodney Thomas Payley.

Speaker 10 (01:15:14):
Zappe trying to get two.

Speaker 14 (01:15:15):
He faked bought in the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
He's trying to catch the Colt off guard and feel
laser over the middle, but it was picked off and snatched.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Up by Rodney Thomas.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Yes, sir, the Colts will take that thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
One seconds to go and the Colts and Germany are
gonna be victorious.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Matt Taylor with a very enthusiastic call, Hey, you got
a free trip to Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Who wasn't a beautiful game, but he.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Got to call a win for a five and five team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
For a five and five Colts team, who uh get
there with a ten to six win on over the Patriots.
A Patriots team that has all sorts of quarterback questions
coming out of this game. That was Bailly Zappi uh
throwing a fake spike interception.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I don't know what was the funniest thing about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It, the fact that he tried the fake spike or
that he didn't recognize that nobody noticed that he really
did it, so everyone in the secondary was in full coverage.
And then he throws a balloon ball over the middle
that never had any chance. And the reason he was
in greg was because mac Jones struggled mightily and threw

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maybe the worst pass of his career in the previous
possession on what should have been a touchdown. Instead it
was an interception, and Belichick is so mad and frustrated
he benches his quarterback with one series.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
To go with one series. I don't know if I've
ever seen that. I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I mean, I'm sure it's happened, and maybe I've even
seen it, but I cannot remember a quarterback being benched
for essentially a two minute drive to win the game.
It's crazy, But you don't blame I don't blame him
at all. As bad as Bailey Zappi has looked in
brief work this year, including the preseason, Mac Jones has
just been too much for him. And the offensive line

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was terrible pass protecting early in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
I get it, that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
You know they were without Trent Brown, but he just
crumbled a handful of times this season where just like
it all just became too much for him. And when
you're short arming like a wide open Goseki the interception
that you're talking about, when you're skying a throw that
that could also could have been a touchdown pass their
hunter Henry, they.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Actually moved the ball well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
They had three hundred and forty yards in this game
on of the It's weirdly one of their better offensive
games of the year. I would say, and they and
they well just because other things like I'm just saying
that they ran for one sixty seven, so they were
actually doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
They were moving the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
They looked like the better offense on the day despite
their quarterback not being able to do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
But Mac Jones is just like too much for him
and they had to take him out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Here's Belichick after thing. You would think with a buy
coming up the way that game ended that it might
finally be Mac Jones running out of lives here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
But here's what Belichick said after the game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, look, I made a decision.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
That's what it was.

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
We'll do it next week.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Next week. Do you still have Jones quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Fifth and order players?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Yeah, I mean Bill of course isn't going to say
anything because he never says anything, but that benching Jones
in that way that tells you everything you need to know.
And we'll see what happens next for the Patriots. But
they are now two and seven, and it will only
continue to amplify the talk about not just Mac Jones

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in the quarterback position. But Bill Belichick and what his
future holds with the team. This is another in a
you know, a big spotlight game for the organization. It's
you know, me, Greg, I live for Patriots suffering after
all the years of me suffering and everyone else suffering.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
But it is gotten to the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Point where when they were showing those cuts to Robert
Craft in his luxury suite and he was looking crestfallen
and increasingly frustrated, where it's not really surprising anymore because
this just feels like this is now what the Patriots
experience is, and all that stuff, all the many years
of greatness feel like they're already kind of far in
the rear view because they've had so many troubles in

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the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Craft really wanted this game. He made it clear.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
He said it publicly, I think he said it privately.
He said he wanted this game to be a reset
because this season's been so disappointing, like he hadn't given
up hope and they've been pushing to be the Germany
team for a long time. They wanted to do this game.
They've been working on it for a long time. And
then you know, Sebastian Vohmer's on the call in Germany.
He's a big, big podcaster over there. We're working for

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our buddy. I hands some hank And they have this
game which is the absolute bottom. In the same game
that they left J. C. Jackson home, remember that one.
Jack Jones was mysteriously benched for the first quarter plus again.
They asked mac Jones after the game why they didn't

(01:20:09):
throw a hail Mary on the final play of the
first half, which was very curious. Instead, they had their
biggest offensive play of the game, Toda Mario Douglas, and
he said, that's a good question, no clue, which is
like I said that Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
So he threw a wide receiver screen with no trickeration.
It was just like Douglas. It was their biggest play
of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
It was their only play over twenty yards, I believe,
definitely their only throw over twenty yards.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
And he said no clue, which is a little bit
of the mac Jones of last year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Yeah, their offensive line coach, I wish you know the
best firm and he has a health issue, but he
left the team earlier this week Adrian Clem So like
there's just like a lot happening. And I will remember
this game because I watched the end of it with
my entire family, you know, me and Walker. We're up
in the we're in the garage at six thirty. We're
having fun, like we enjoyed. It was taking too seriously

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and when that play happened, it was great. The entire
family actually burst out like in laughter what like no
lie when the zappy thing happened, because we were just
like it was so we were just laughter because it
was it was legitimately funny.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
It was jeople like me are laughing. You usually be
laughing about but we.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Just were like, there's like they've watched enough to know
how bad it is, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
They're so young, you know, you're well, but.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
This year, this year's Patriots ellis is not too in
Bubba Walker and knows so bad is They're just like,
this is gonna go horribly. What's gonna happen? Then you
get the fakes like the interception. Everyone just starts laughing,
just just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
For me and for all the other people that you know,
did deal with the Patriots greatness for so long. Let's
hear the sentient power aid bottle zolac Uh on the
mac Jones interception that spelled the end of his Patriots career.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
It is for fun, was absolute Kiff. He gives the
Colts so it's not competitive. He had get Sicky running
behind in the back end zone. What's he looking at?
You gotta make move Bill, pick a move Bie weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Here, maybe you get the bye week. Maybe Bill was
listening to Scott. He's gotta he's listening to the broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
It's good analysis. Good job Colts. By the way, you know,
I know Colts fans. Let's not go too crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
All I'm saying is good job Shane Steichen. You're five
and five, you don't, you have no reason to be.
That's good coaching. Jonathan Taylor, nice body control on that
first touch that it was actually quite a nice run
on a fourth down that ended up being the difference
of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
You got Buckner, you got some pass rush. Like the
fact they're fin Pittman's like that should have been my touchdown, right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
You just I'm saying, if you're a Colts fan, you're like, hey,
we got the coach. Hopefully we got the quarterback. We
won't find out till next year. We're you know we
were doing some things.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, they're hanging around and at the very least you
know they're playing for something after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
So there you go. Let's head to Sunday Night football.
Final point in the game, no timeouts left. I never
liked this prevent defense.

Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
I would like to have a rush, but I get
it from the forty four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Wilson back to throw. Crosby spins them around. Wilson be chased.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Crosby's counting back at the forty Else's gonna heap to
the ends on.

Speaker 9 (01:23:02):
Door right, pits up in the air, had cut it down.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Late.

Speaker 9 (01:23:07):
Hobbs got his hands on it to knock it down
at the gold and the Raiders win at.

Speaker 8 (01:23:12):
Home sixteen twelve to get to five and five on
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yes, the Las Vegas Raiders, with Antonio Pierce leading the charge,
are somehow, some way in the thick of the AFC
playoff race after another win, sweeping the Medlands Meadowlands Occupants
Giants first in a blowout and then edging the Jets
sixteen to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
When Zach Wilson's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Desperation hail Mary heave toward Garrett Wilson was broken up
by Jets tight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
End Tyler Conklin.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Nice play, Bud, and the Raiders improved to four and
one at home.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
They are not an impressive team. This was at a
pretty game, but a battle of also rans. It is
the Raiders who have a pulse as we head toward
Thanksgiving them the Jets who look like they're fading away.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Well, it's tough to separate these teams, and if they
were in the NFC, you would feel like long term
they maybe have a better chance to make the playoffs.
But they both only have five losses, so it still
feels big at this point in the season and you're
just wondering, like, how do the Raiders win these games?
Exactly because it's a rookie quarterback and O'Connell, who's looked
okay through two weeks, had a bad interception but otherwise

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some good plays. But no running back in the league
dominates the ball more than Josh Jacobs. He is the
highest percentage of plays of any one in the on
any offense. And then today DeVante Adams had a higher
percentage of air yards in this game. In terms of
like the targets thirteen targets in this game, and just
like air yards I think of any receiver of any
game this year. So it's like four different guys and

(01:25:01):
a lot of good speeches by Antonio Pierce and then
Max Crosby. If there's one positive I guess about putting
the Raiders in prime time so much?

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Like so much?

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Why so much? It has kind of been the Wow.
Max Crosby is one of the best football players on
earth and is just involved in every play. So a
nice couple of months for me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Yeah, you get the Crosby Show, and I think Josh
Jacobs you're starting to see now as the season, you know,
has reached the halfway point.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
It took him a while to get going after that
long holdout, but he.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Had some runs in this game, including a forty yard
run and that run where he carried the Jets defense
for five or six yards. He also had a big
fumble that in the fourth quarter where when it looked
like the Raiders are.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
About to put the game away.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
But in general, he seems more like the player he
was last year when he was the rushing champ. Devonte
Adams continues to be far less productive than he was
at any other time in his career, but at least
he's in the mix in this game for eighty six.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
And they only had one fifty three through the year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Right, So, and you know, going against a stout Jets defense,
that that's gonna play. So yeah, I think the Raiders
on the Raiders side of the ball, it's it's not
gonna be pretty. Aidan O'Connell is not, you know, looking
like CJ. Stroud out there. But it gets a little
bit messy at the bottom of the AFC playoff picture.
And maybe this is one of those teams that hang
around even if nobody wants them around. On the Jet

(01:26:27):
side of things, I could be mad. I could be
you know, screaming and cursing and and and you know,
shaking my fist at the football gods about that last play,
because it really was a beautiful scramble to get away
from Max Crosby by Wilson to square his shoulders and
then throw a beautiful ball to the end zone there

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and and Garrett Wilson really did come very close to it.
I'm not and it's not that's not a Joe Conklin.
And you can't blame him. Tyler Conklan, the Jet tight end.
He's just thrown his hands up too, and he's the
one that actually knocks it away from Garret Wilson, and
it would have been a miraculous win for the Jets.
And the reason I can't complain is the Jets have
already had a couple two or three miraculous wins this year,

(01:27:10):
so you can't just expect them to keep on pulling
a rabbit out of the hat. And you certainly can't
expect the offense to make a big play when it counts.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I mean you it came down to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
That last throw, but really the Jets had a chance
here in their previous possession to truly take the game
and steal it from the Raiders. And Zach Wilson stares
down Alan Lazard and throws an interception to Robert Splaine
that really kind of, for all intents and purposes, truly
kind of buried the team. They did get it, do
a good job getting it back the defense, Greg, But

(01:27:42):
it's the same story with this offense, which is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
What are we up to now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I think thirty five drives if my numbers are right,
and one hundred in sixty nine minutes of game time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Can that be right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
I mean, it sounds probably I mean, but it is
about thirty five to thirty six possessions now without a touchdown,
and it just seems like the team's head is in
the sand on this, with the quarterback, with the play
caller Nathaniel Hackett, with the personnel, with the scheme, like
they're not changing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
And I wonder Greg how much of that is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
And as the season slips away and they lose the
tiebreaker out of the Raiders, they lose a tiebreaker of
the Chargers last week to conference losses, so very bad
for their playoff hopes. Is how much is this is
tied into the true boss of the organization, Aaron Rodgers,
who again floated something to NBC about a return, and
it's like they want to just keep everything in place
until he gets here to save us. And it's certainly

(01:28:40):
no way to try to keep a season alive as
it all starts to fade away.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah, he said mid December to Melissa. According to mid
Melissa Stark, that that was the goal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
And it's mid November right now for those tracking, So
he says he's about a month away.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Potentially, and so that would be you know, maybe their
game against the Commanders, which would be you know, the
only three weeks left in the season. Most likely PFT
also put something out that it's more likely that he
wouldn't be ready to OTAs for what.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
It's worth, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
This game is actually why they can't change off of it,
because I understand why they would leave this game thinking,
oh man, we're not that far away now. On one hand,
we haven't scored a freaking touchdown in almost three games,
thirty five drives, I think, And yet Zach Wilson on
those final two drives made some great throws I mean,

(01:29:34):
to get the ball in position once they fell down
to touch. You know, once Jacobs fumbled that ball, and
it was Jacob's first fumble I think in three hundred
something touches, So like, that's pretty rare that would happen
three hundred and forty six straight top touches without losing
a fumble. And then he fumbled it. They get it
and you almost feel like, oh, the magic's happened again.
Zach Wilson made some really good plays to move the

(01:29:55):
ball down the field. Then he stares down the interception,
then he gets the ball back again and and I
mean that throat a conkline he had to set up
the hail Mary was incredible too, so it's like you're.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Seeing these little finishes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
And he started the game five for seven for eighty
four yards and he almost ran in for a touchdown.
This is actually one of Zach Wilson's best games of
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
And think about that though, right, they didn't score a touchdown,
and yes, he nearly had a touchdown scrabble but stepped
out of bounds and then they shoot themselves in the
foot with penalties on that drive. He also had the
no look past to Alan Lazard on that an ultimate
drive that he rattled at home because Lazard was trying
almost to drop the ball, but he held on to it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
It was probably his third best game.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
He had that two game stretch where he looked okay,
this one I was like okay. But they also the
defense only allowed two first downs in the first twenty
five minute Dan and it was nine to three at
that point, and the Jets had a chance to to
go down and at least take the clock away at
the end of the first half, and they couldn't do that.
And that's where they are not taking advantage and they're
asking the defense to do so much. They should have

(01:30:57):
been up by two scores at halftime, and the kind
of just frittered that part away.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
And that is on the offense.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Yeah, and it's the same thing I said last week
and probably the week before. Like the way this team
is now set up, it is the defense is to dominate,
and it's not enough to just dominate. They also have
to have takeaways that either produce points or set up
the offense on a very short field. And they even
did have to turnovers, right, but they didn't have the impact. Well,

(01:31:24):
they actually did have one in the first half that
set them up with a field goal. But unless the
defense does something truly special or special teams, they're just
not gonna win games the way they are set up
because in addition to the Wilson struggles and the offensive
line struggle, the running game now is stuck in mud.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
So it is to me with the Giants, these are
the two worst offenses in football.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
So if the Raiders fans right now are feeling happy
and refreshed and renewed, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
That's great. You have something to root for.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
But also keep in mind the two offenses that you
just played are quite possibly along with the paid treats,
possibly the worst offenses in football. So we'll see what
the Raiders look like when the competition jumps up a notch.
But yeah, they have the Dolphins next week so that
will be a true test and the Chiefs after that,
so we'll see where they stand.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
In the AFC is truly stupid. There are seven teams.
There's that eight teams, you know, between the seven seed,
which is Houston. Houston's five and four, Like we think
of them as this great team in Cincinnati's fighting four
in Buffaloes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
So they haven't played tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
But there's seven teams that either have four or five losses,
including the Jets, including the Raiders, including the Denver Broncos
at least.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
For one more day.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
I'm just like eight teams. I counted it wrong. Eight
teams have either four or five losses. I mean that
is a big fat middle conference and then New England.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
But they You know, if you're a Jets fan, you're
disgusted because you thought home against the Chargers, then you
get the Raiders. This have been your chance to kind
of put yourself ahead of a lot of these teams.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Instead, now you're kind of looking up at them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
It's just very frustrating, and it's I try to keep
it in perspective, Greg, because I know in my heart
as soon as Aaron Rodgers Achilles popped, it was over.
And I said that, I've said that, But they kind
of sucked you in with some of those wins and
made you think, Okay, maybe this could be like a fun,
weird season and we're playing in the playoffs as a

(01:33:27):
wild card.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
But I feel like the last six days.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Reality is struck and it feels like Midnight has struck,
which is also kind of sad because it wasn't exactly
a Cinderella story either. They've been a tough watch for
the most part this season, but we're kept on coming
up with wins. But now they're coming up with losses
and that's just the way it goes, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Got just gotta hold the fort here until Aaron gets back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
But at Buffalo and then Miami, then Nick's just had.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
A really good home stand beat up on all three
of their opponents. So we got the Knicks, and we
got the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Nick Celtics game this week. Yeah, and the Yankees.

Speaker 11 (01:34:10):
Different than basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Part, he's a pitcher that I'm excited about and maybe
we make a play bro Tani.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
So there's you know, there is hope, just not about
the football team. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
We'll be back on Monday with the Monday Night Football
recap and news rundown.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Also, NFL Plus returns our Game of the Week this
week will be Texans Bengals pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
That'll be fun, so make sure you're there for that.
Until then, thank you everybody for listening, and nice Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Heath the Call

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