October 15, 2024 • 36 mins
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Nick Shook to break down the Bills and Jets facing off on Monday Night Football. The guys start with Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers' play, followed by a discussion about the new look to the Jets' coaching assignments (11:22), and the state of the AFC East (16:22). After the break, you'll get caught up on news from around the NFL including injury updates for Aidan Hutchinson, Jonathan Allen, and Anthony Richardson (21:59), Nick Sirianni's apology to Philly fans (26:00), and Gregg and Nick's players of the week (33:36).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Wilson comes to the left side Rogers in
the shotgun hal to his right on third and sixteen,
back to pass, Rogers looking to load up fires deep
rainbow down.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The field looking for Mike Williams, and it's intercepted.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Tarren Johnson.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back, a hu fungus interception by the nickel corner.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Welcome back to Taron Johnson, Welcome back to Trel Bernard,
Welcome back to me.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
I'm back state side.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
The Buffalo Bills are back in first place in the
AFC East. That was Chris Brown, of course, on the
Bills Radio network. Bills get to win twenty three to twenty.
On another entertaining primetime game, Aaron Rodgers. Nick Schook has
a chance for the third straight week to go win
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a game on a drive down just a few points
in the final minutes, and for the third straight week
he comes up short. Second straight week, it's an interception
on a pass intended for Mike Williams. Thank you, Nick,
by the way, for keeping the home front warm and
getting that Sunday night recap done just a night ago.
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And here you are right and off a good game tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, and I'll probably sleep better than Aaron Rodgers will
right now, because the man is clearly frustrated. Despite the
fact that the chain to Todd downing his play caller
did produce better results offensively, it ultimately ends up with
the same final result, which is a loss, and a
loss in which he, like you said, targeted Mike Williams
and got picked off to end their hopes and dreams.
I mean, it's got to be a tough time for
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the Jets right now, but a big win for the Bills.
Not because it was pretty, because we're not gonna lie
here and say it was pretty for anybody. Statistically it
was pretty visually, not so much because of all the penalties,
but a huge win for them after losing two straight
to get back on the right side of things.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, the penalties were crazy. It finishes with I believe
eleven penalties for both teams, the most penalty yards combined
in any game this season, and it could have been
even much higher because there were multiple plays in the
second half where there were offsetting penalties, where there was
a long PI that got called back because there was
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an offensive line holding penalty, and then just like matching holding.
So the second half you're right, was ugly. The first
half was it. I mean, the Bills offense played fantastic,
But talking about that ending, I thought both quarterbacks played
quite well in this game. Josh Allen very efficient making
plays outside the pocket. Aaron Rodgers, I thought, probably at
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his best game as a Jets quarterback, and considering he's
thrown one touchdown and eight interceptions on the season, like,
I actually think he's played reasonably well, but he's come
up short in these big spots, And it does make
you think about the differences between two quarterbacks, Like at
one point Aaron Rodgers was in the top five quarterbacks, right,
and it's because he had so many different ways he
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could beat you. And you think about the way this
game ended with them being able to blitz and get
to him before that play in a couple times late,
whereas Josh Allen, after that interception on third and five,
fakes a pick to the right, runs to the left,
and finishes the game like one of the best running
quarterbacks of all time, which he is, so he can
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beat in so many different ways. And to me, it
was a small difference in this game, but there was
a difference in quarterbacks in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now a small difference, but a massive difference when he
came down to winning football. I mean, it's that simple.
It's Josh Allen being able to extend plays, you know,
throwing a pass on the run to Ray Davis for
a pickup of forty two and a down they absolutely needed.
It was the fastest speed by a ball carrier on
a pass completed of that distance in the next gen
stats era, I believe. I mean, that's what Josh Allen
is capable of doing. And it's not that Aaron Rodgers
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played poorly because he didn't. You know, he's getting the
ball out quickly, he's making the proper reads and everything else.
I feel bad for him because for a stretch there,
Tyron Smith was serving him up on a platter to
aj A Panessa for sacks and crushing hits ones that
drew penalty is still you know, they pile up on
a guy like him. But yeah, Josh Allen, you know
he's He's in the top three in the QB Index
for a reason.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
There we go. It's simple.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I shouldn't be the only one doing self promotion on
this show all the time. Yes, everyone should check out
QB Index week after week Nick Shook killing it and yeah,
what what is the top three right now? Must be
Josh Allen, Lamar and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah it was this past week it was Lamar, Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen, maybe Alan behind my homes.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think Allen was still.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
At my home.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I might have Stroud right behind those.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Stroud was fifth. Yeah, he was right there.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Love it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, you look at Rogers' numbers. He takes five QB hits,
three sacks, and yet he wasn't pressured that much. And
so it's something that I've noticed throughout this season. He
gets rid of the ball quickly for the most part,
but when he does hold on to it, he tends
to take a lot of hits and the word is out.
I think in blitzing him that the Bills are not
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a heavy blitz team. But when they did blitz tonight,
he went one of four for eight yards and took
three sacks. So it has been something I think that
isn't shown in the numbers. That he is throwing the
ball well, but that when you get pressure in his face,
he's not reacting as well to it. Meanwhile, Josh Allen
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on third downs tonight was six of eight two touchdowns.
He had the two rushing first downs, and he has
no interceptions on the season, which is crazy and it's
a little misleading. It's a little lucky.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The ultimate Josh Allen moment in sequenced tonight, right before halftime,
He's running to the right outside the pocket inside the
ten with under a minute left in the second quarter,
and he gets loose with the ball and fumbles it
and they happen to recover after it bounces around between
the Bills and the Jets. And on the very next play,
he makes an awesome roll out to the left where
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he gets Dawson Knox for a touchdown that I thought
was going to be such a big moment in this
game shook, But all it did was set up Aaron
Rodgers for another magical hail Mary moment. After this play
that we're going to listen to, I was convinced the
Jets are winning this game. You can't lose a game
when Aaron Rodgers throws a hail Mary, can you.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Aaron Rodgers in a shotgun, takes the snap and drops
back again at two man rush steps up in the pocket,
has time and he's just gonna heave the ball towards
the Endzill Jets a hail mary into the Enzo. It's
sit around Alan Mazard, the ball pounces out.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He thought he had it for a touchdown. Did he
have it? It's a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's a hail mary touchdown to Allen Lazard.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Before halftime, w axq Bob with Susan that felt like
another moment where it's like, Wow, Aaron Rodgers is really
a Jet again. He's hitting the hailbary and that that
was the time. And the Bills end up blowing that
ten point lead and the Jets have a moment where
they actually think they take the lead, but it's called
back by a Tyron Smith holding penalty. You mentioned what
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a bad night he had, but I thought, wow, okay,
this is going to be the night a little Rogers
bagic in prime time and again he gets the chance
with a three point deficit late in the game, but
it just it just didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
But at least he gave us that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean, that was you know, classic Rogers. Everybody
on Twitter immediately is like, hey, he did it again,
fourth time in his career. He's throwing a hail mary
for a touchdown and that's great, And it felt like
one of those momentum swinging plays that basically led me
to believe that we're going to see the exact same
thing that happened between Jets and Bills last year also
in primetime, in which you know, they walk it off
with the Gibson punt return touchdown, and we never got
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that opportunity because instead and it ended in all too
familiar fashion with that pick.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But yeah, in that moment, that was great.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And what was also great Greg, I don't know if
a lot of people picked up on this, but I
certainly did. We had a little bit of a fail
Mary Part two where we had one official saying incomplete
and the other one's touchdown and I was like, oh,
please tell me photographers are catching this. I thought that
might be the only time, you know, back when it
happened in Seattle, that we'd ever see that, and we
got it for a moment there, even though they got
the call right.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, So we're gonna connect a couple of different threads
we've been talking about in this show. The officiating which
was questionable, some of the roughing the passer calls. There
was one on both sides were shaky, and there was
just so many penalties.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I'm so sick of the illegal formations.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
It is on pace right now to triple the amount
of illegal formations. I believe tonight we almost tied the
amount of illegal formations in the entire twenty twenty three seasons.
So all these freaking penalties, and Aaron Rodgers was complaining
about it, and he actually has a reference here back
to uh, yeah, when we had the replacement refs tonight.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, it seemed a little ridiculous. Yeah, some of them
seemed really bad, including the rough in the pastor on me,
and that's not rough in the passer. I was going
to play sarcasta ball if we're going to call those things.
And I thought the one on Kin Long was not
rough in the passer either.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So do you know what sarcast the ball is without googling?
I have Google. I was waiting for you to finish writing,
so I've done the research.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Honestly, I'm drawing a blank, so enlighten me.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's a South Park episode that they made about the
replacement refs where they created another sports so cast the ball,
and I do love it's in Rogers's wheelhouse age wise,
and certainly sense of humor that he just he just
throws that out there as if everyone knows it.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Good job.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was in college back then, so I do recall
my friends being very on top of it at that time.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That it was a really interesting press conference.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You'll probably see the photo of him just staring off
to space, wondering about the meaning of life, kind of
like thing at the end of Monday night football. I
kind of was feeling that way too. It's about five
thirty am back in London and then you know it's
up to a couple hours before racing to the airport.
So I am a little fried right now. So I
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was thinking that way too. But like at the end
of this game, he was asked about that William's route,
which felt typical that they can't get on the same page,
and he all but threw Williams under the bus for
not running the right route. Now, he didn't say he
ran the right wrong route, but he said that he's
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expecting him to run a certain way. I think he
called it like, I forget the wording that he used.
They explained Ryan Clark explained it on ESPN, But essentially
he thinks he's going to go vertical, but he's not
as outside. He sees him breaking one way before he
throws it, and he almost had to adjust the throw midway.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Williams has to come back for it. It was a
bad throw.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think Rogers was not so subtly saying that it
was a bad throw because he caught me off guard
for not being where I expected him to be.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, and that speaks to their lack of rapport because
the interception that he threw against the Vikings overseas was similar.
It was that they just don't understand where each other
wants to each other to be at a certain time
where you know, he throws that pass, he gets picked
off against the Vikings. That would have been a great
backshoulder throw, but Mike Williams continues running downfield, and this
time Mike Williams is not quite running the same route
that he won, ends up in another interception, a spectacular interception,
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noe less like. It was definitely a great play, but
a play that Mike Williams slips and falls trying to
get back to the ball because they're not on the
same page, which is just indicative of where the Jets
offense has been even after the play color change, it's
still where they kind of are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, so you mentioned the play color change. I do
think there were more open receivers tonight that the running
game looked fantastic, especially in the first half. Breestau goes
eighteen for one to thirteen. At mid third quarter, they
had seven twenty plus yard plays, so this was an
explosive offense. They put up almost four hundred yards. I
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don't know if they got another twenty yard play after that.
I don't think they did. Garrett Wilson had a nice night.
Lizard's having a nice season in general, so it's not
like they're that far away. But there's always just one
thing that's going wrong. Tyron Smith tonight, Joe Tipman had
a big penalty in this game, and they just can't
get it consistent enough. When they have a chance to
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take the lead, they get in. I had the five
yard line. You expect them to be able to punch
it in instead of penalty blows it there. So I
don't think they're done yet. And the coach of the
Jets actually agrees with me, Jeff Ahlbrick.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Let's listen to him.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
I think there's always a sense of urgency. There has
to be, you know, that's just the nature of this league.
But at the same time, two of four is by
we are by no means out of this thing, by
no means. I know the character that locker room. I
know the way we will respond. I know that I
thought this week's process was right. I thought the way
we were prepared was exceptional, you know, And we got
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to start stacking these weeks of exceptional preparation and I
promise you it'll start to pay off on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They felt like they were closer this week, right, Greg,
Like they felt even with the coaching change and everything else.
And that's a guy who had run a brick through
a brick wall for right, but they felt like they
were closer than they'd been in the last few weeks,
even if they didn't get the job done.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yes, well, offensively, they were much better.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He's calling the defense Brick is what Rogers called him
at his press coverence, and he was gushing about what
a good job Brick has been doing. So that, yeah,
I think is somewhat telling. He's got the seal of
approval from Aaron Rodgers. And defensively, they did not play
well in the first half. Second half, they tightened up
on the Bill's four possessions of the second half. They
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miss a field goal Tyler Bass cost them four points
in this game.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Greg zerline.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
On the other side, it was very windy, missed two kicks,
doinked them both.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You don't see that too much.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And then punt punt, and then that long field goal
drive that ultimately was the game winning drive. So the
Jets defense wasn't great, Brick said it was not too
much for him to call all the plays. I think
ultimately you're right, they were closer on offense. It really
felt like the play caller change was effective. We should
give some love to the Bill's offense and Ray Davis.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I love me some Ray Davis. Just the way he runs.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
There's an aggression that sometimes running backs don't have after
their rookie year or their second year, and Ray Davis
has it right now. He just runs so hard and
you can't teach that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think diehard listeners NFL Daily might recall me pointing
out Ray Davis in the preseason as a guy to
watch out for. He is a low center of gravity
runner who's hard to bring down on first contact.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He runs hard. He did that tonight. They had that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Their first scoring drive was a statement drive. Six of
their nine plays are Ray Davis caries. He totals like
forty eight yards on that drive alone, marches them down
the field. And I'm sitting there watching it, just going, yes,
we're getting the Ray Davis game. And that's before he
even got involved in the passing game. And you know what,
let's give a tip of the cap to the Bill's
defense too. Taylor Rap made a couple of really big
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hits and timely plays, breaking up passes that could have
swung the game, including a pass to Garrett Wilson in
the end zone. Jets had to settle for a field
goal in that situation. Like the Bill's defense did come
to play and made some big stops and key moments.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, that Taylor Rap hit in the end zone, like
you mentioned, was huge, And at the end of the game,
I think Tabar Hamlin had had a tough game, but
they are a much better defense in general with Taron
Johnson and Trell Bernard.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh yeah out there.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And he Rap's been a little up and down this year,
but he played well tonight. I did notice after the
game there was some social media going around that Tomorrow,
Hamlin got Aaron Rodgers's jersey after the game, got the
jersey swap with a little autograph saying You're an inspiration
to me. I think it was a surprise. He was
just in his locker room and Rogers had sent it over.
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And you forget that these guys are just you know,
they're still fans. He was probably a fan of Aaron
Rodgers when Rogers was an MVP, and he said he
felt like a kid on Christmas. What's better than not
only getting Aaron rodgers jersey, but beating him along the way.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, and then getting the jersey after the fact like that.
That's how you know right there that you've made an impact.
And he's got an inspiring story and it's beautiful to
see him out there. Honestly, sometimes a little surprising to
see him out there and just laying his body on
the line after what happened to him. But that's football,
and these are football players more than anything. Like something
like that just illustrates the fact that look their competitors
and their opponents and everything else, but they're all doing
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the same thing, which is playing a kids game. For
varying sums of money and they know the sacrifice that's involved.
And tomorrow Hamlin's definitely gotten an up close experience with
just you know how much of a zachrific could be.
And I'm sure he very much appreciates every snap that
he gets to play now that he's healthy and back
on the field.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So before we move on and take a little break,
I do want to just put where this puts the
team at four and two.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
You're up two.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Games now, the Bills are over the Jets in the division,
and you have the tie break.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That's significant.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And if there was one person that was happier that
Robert Salah lost his job in the AFCs, I don't
know if it was anyone but Josh Allen. I mean,
Josh Allen's had a nightmare against these Robert sala defenses
over the years. His numbers have been brutal, and tonight
was the opposite nineteen for twenty five two hundred and
fifteen yards and two touchdowns and had the two key rushes,
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He had the score and then the play at the end.
It was his third best game of his career in
terms of completion percentage over expected that Ray Davis throw
against his body probably.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Was a part of that number two.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
So like he he's settled down after a couple down weeks.
That's going to be the Josh Allen experience. But are
you worried, Nick about the lack of weapons. Davis leads
the team in receiving because he has that one play.
Dalton Kincaid was finally a little more involved six for
fifty one, not really hitting big plays, and then their
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leader in terms of receiving yards was Curtis Samuel because
he got that one big play.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
But otherwise it's Keon.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Coleman getting almost the most I mean not the most targets,
but the most routes run. It's just it's a little rough.
They need Colio security to be healthier. He was out
there tonight, but not every time, but I think that's
something to watch it as the trade deadline approaches.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Kean Coleman actually dropped a pass that would have been
a beautiful completion just in front of the end zone there,
so you know, but he's a rookie, Like this is
what we kind of should have expected going to the season.
You lose Digs, you lose Gabe Davis. You have to
rebuild your receiving cord and you're relying heavily on a rookie.
This is they're gonna take a bit of a step
back when it comes to connecting with these guys. Especially
we saw it in Houston. A lot of them just
are on the same page. I mean, at the end
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of that game, Mac Collins and Josh Allen is not
in the same page on a completable pass.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you're gonna have these issues.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The fun thing about this matchup is like they are
out there hitting, we're getting flags for them getting in
fights between quarters. That was the only flag I enjoyed.
Like that was the only flag I enjoyed. The lights
were out and they're pushing and on the field. I
know it wasn't all clean, but this was a physical
game between two teams that genuinely don't seem to like
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each other that much. And once again it looks like
it's the Bill's division. I'm not rolling the Jets out yet.
I know it's a dark time for the Jets, but
and they have the Steelers on the road this week,
that's a big game. After that, the schedule eases up
relatively down this stretch.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean, Albert kind of said it right there,
we're by no means out of it. Yeah, you're two
and four, but you have a lot of season left,
and when you look at the Jets schedule, I just
think about the next two weeks because they're always the
most important. What's your weakness right now? Your defense is not.
I mean, statistically, they are a number two defense in
terms of yards lot per game, but we've seen them
give up big point totals in primetime games. Right We're
going into another primetime game on Sunday night against the
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Steelers this week, but at the same time, you're facing
one of the least explosive offenses in the NFL. So
if your offense is actually where you think it is
after tonight, you're gonna play a better defense than the Steelers.
But if your offense is where you think it is tonight,
that's a winnable game. You dominated New England. Yes, you
have to go there in the following week, but that's
another winnable, very winnable game. So before you know it,
you could be four and four and feel much better
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about your team right now, So you want to hit
the panic button because it's frustrating, and you see hereon
Rodgers frustrated. But I'm telling you right now, Jets fans,
right out a little bit longer before you decide to
jump ship.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I like the optimism that Sunday Night one is huge.
Three and four feels way different to me than two
and five with it potentially coming apart at the seams.
As Troy Yiekman said after the game, I'm like, what
does Troy know? He thinks this thing might collapse a
little under its own weight, so maybe maybe he is
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picking up a few things.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
All right, we are going to take a break.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We're going to come back on the other side, do
some news, give our Captain of the Week, and then
I'm going to go to sleep. Back on NFL Daily. Yes,
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back in America. Didn't miss a snap shook. The plane
landed about forty minutes early. Watch some of the first
quarter in the uber home, but didn't didn't miss a snap.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
We're here.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's the beauty. That's the beauty of rideshare coming from Lax.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah about arriving at Lax, but it was a lovely time.
And shout out to the fan. I'm glad that you're
on this show with me because this would have slipped
my mind. Shout out to the fan that came up,
the listener that said he really enjoys the nick shook
the recaps, So you got one.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Here we go, all right, there we go. One fan overseas.
That's one more than I have to have one.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You know, if I'm only meeting like a sample of them,
then you can extrapolate it out.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It's like a poll.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So that means there's there's thousands of shooky fans out
there in the UK and worldwide. But it is great
to be back, and yes, I'll be back in the
studio to do our next show with Colleen and Jordan,
and we're.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Back on our regular schedule.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So I appreciate everyone listening last week and dealing with
all the different times that the show was going up.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Let's do some news.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hutchinson will be out four to six months with a
fractured tibia and fibula and the range of outcomes that
was possible after this injury.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
As Dan Campbell put.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It, this probably was on the more positive side. How
I read into that is that it was essentially closer
to like a clean break instead of ligament damage, and
sometimes where it's at the ankle and the leg that
four to six month timeline would indicate it's more of
a traditional recovery. Everything goes well, they're even thrown out there,
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like maybe he'd be ready for the super Bowl if
they got there late in the playoffs, but either way,
they're going to be shorthanded for the rest of the
regular season.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, you'd have to come through on the short side
of that timeline. I'm just glad that he avoided the
Alex Smith scenario or even the Teddy Bridgewater scenario when
he had, like grew some knee injury, you know, because
any type of compound fracture, anything significant like that, you
always fear that. So it sucks because they lose their
best pass rusher and it's a department for them that
they've already kind of lacked depth then, but this is football.
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This is part of what happens. So they're gonna have
to find out a way to go forward without him.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, we dove deep into it on the Recap show
on Sunday night Monday morning. I recommend everyone check that out.
I mean, it's about as long as a Godfather movie.
I saw that they pop up in my phone when
I woke up this morning. It's like, oh, I did
not realize we went that long late into the night.
So yeah, we tried to come up with seven fun
We'll see, it was a lot of fun. I want
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to give you another updated injury which we weren't aware
of on Sunday, which was Jonathan Allen. But the commanders
did not think that was a major injury, and it
turns out he is going to miss the season with
a tornpeck torol muzzle. Jonathan Allen was one of the
best defensive tackles ends kind of a hybrid interior player
in the league for a handful of seasons. I would
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say he wasn't playing at that level since the start
of twenty twenty three. That continued this year, but he
still was a ardor and a significant player on a
team that doesn't have a lot of defensive talent.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's also the guy who has the third highest cap
number on the roster right now. That's always a big
blow when you lose a guy who's making that much money. Yeah,
PFF didn't have him great very well last year or
into this year, but it's a blow for them and
now they have to lean on Jerson Newton. The rookie
out of Illinois to replace him, and I expect them
to make a roster move just for death purposes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I liked me some Jerry Newton in the pre draft process,
thought thought he was good.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I've tried to keep an eye on him in these games.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It's tough if you're not watching the All twenty two,
but he's made a lot of splash plays. I think
he probably has like a lot of negative plays, but
he goes for big plays. So he's kind of fun
to watch. This Washington team. I want them to stay
in the mix, stay in the playoff race. They're going
to do it with offense, but they need a little
help from their defense. The Colts are expected to start
Anthony Richardson this week, so he was close to starting
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on Sunday. They decided to give Flacco one more go.
He gets to win. At three and three. They haven't
been impressive, but they're in the mix in what's going
to be I think kind of a weird and ugly
race for the last couple AFC spots. I don't know
if it's like a deep conference right now. We'll see,
but I feel like nine wins might get you that
seventh spot. Like someone's going to get a tiebreaker at
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nine wins in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, this season's gonna been like that. There's a lot
of gray area. It's hard to project at this point.
But I'll tell you what, Greg, Joe Flaco put together
two very solid games. And back in the day when
football players weren't making crazy money, a lot of guys
went and got off season jobs, some of them door
to door insurance salesman.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I know you're not going to need employment afterward, but
because of how you perform last year and in these
two games this year, you're the best insurance policy an
NFL team could find.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
No Flacco insurance. Baby, let's go right now.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I was wondering where you were going with that shook
with some dad humor. I'm the dad here. Let's go
to Philadelphia. I mean, man, Nick Sirianni every week has
some story that he's apologizing for after the fact or
explaining after the fact. Where he's the main character. You know,
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we talk about different people that have main character energy.
It's like, doesn't matter what happens with the Eagles, we're
talking about Nick Sirianni. Let's hear him talk about what
happened with his home crowd fans on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Now, I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday.
And I'm sorry and disappointed on how my energy was
directed at the end of the game. And you know,
my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating right
and celebrating with our guys, and so you know, that's
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you know, and I got to have better wisdom and
discernment of when to use that energy, and that wasn't
and that wasn't the time.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Great go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
This this reads like he got a talking to from
the principle and had to go out and apologize to
his classmates after breaking some sort of he cost them
their pizza party. That's essentially what he's speaking like this
in this situation. And look, he has energy. He's got
bro energy, He's got D three football energy. And as
somebody who's familiar with D three football, that comes right
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out of the OAC Baby he went to Mount Union.
And he still acts like it sometimes, especially in situations
like when they get a win over the lowly Browns
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Well, it just seems like he's spinning all season, reacting
from one last thing he did, and then overreacting and
going too far the other way, and then going too
far the other way, and trying to figure out what
he actually does, because he says it partly came from
he talked with his players like Jalen and aj Brown,
and they were telling him during the biway, you be you,
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you be, you know, get back to being crazy Nick.
We like crazy Nick, and then he like goes goes
too hard, yelling at fans, and it's all a little
mystifying and makes me think that maybe they should have
just made a clean break of it at the end
of last season. But then I saw one tweet which
made me rethink this whole story, and they said, Nick Sirianni,
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I have no problem with him yelling at the fans
because I can guarantee you if you met whoever that
was that he yelled at, it would be one of
the ten worst people you've ever met in your life.
And I thought, you're probably right, for whoever was yelling
at him to make Sirianni mad enough for him to
do that, I bet that was true.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, that's a good point, but it is a lot
of come at me bro energy, and it's just like
a broof like I went a side note. I went
to the Guardians Tigers Alds, you know, decisive Game five
on Saturday, and I'm watching a Tiger's fan flipping off
this whole section of Guardians fans and waving his talent
and everything. And that guy had big come at me
bro energy, except Sirianni was on the winning side, so
he was able to have the last laugh.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's bold.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You cannot do that, uh at Yankee Stadium or no friendly,
especially Fenway. No, like New York fans have a bad rap.
Back back when I was going to those games in
three h four, sort of at the peak of the
Yankees Red Sox rivalry, it was not great to be
a Red Sox fan at Yankee Stadium. You probably don't
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even want to wear your hat, and if you do,
when you're leaving, like keep it, keep it tucked on.
You know, you might get ripped off and thrown away.
But it was way worse and way more aggressive if
you were a Yankees fan at Fenway. Unfortunately. To be honest,
all right, let's go to the Dolphins. Mike McDaniel says
he expects to a tug of Iloa to play in
twenty twenty four. It didn't give a timeline on it,
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but basically said it's coming. So that's an interesting addition
to the story. There are two and three. You never
know if they could get to a back soon. They're
not technically out of it, as bad as they've looked
on the field. Kevin Stefanski did the Monday follow up
nick that he's sticking with Watson. We don't need to
go deep into it. I think everyone knows at this
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point he's one of the worst quarterbacks through six weeks
in the last twenty years. But I did think it
was notable because I thought this Monday was a possible
chance that he would change his mind and make the move,
and he is not making the move.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think we're creeping toward and maybe slowly building more
speed toward a decision, probably at the point where Stefanski
starts to feel his own job threatened, and even for
a two time Coach of the Year, you continue at
this rate, you're gonna have to make a change before
long to save your job.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
So I think it'll happen eventually.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Right, I mean, that's even assuming it's his choice to make.
Andrew Berry is involved the ownership is involved mutiny. I
wonder about Andrew Berry's job. I know he signed that contract. Yeah,
he's weirdly skated on making the worst trade in NFL history,
just saying.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Jim Harbaugh had that scary incident that included a heart murmur,
which is something he's been dealing with. We found out
recently that happened on the sideline during the win over
the Broncos. He spoke Monday after visiting a doctor earlier
in the day.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
I talk to John to talk to my dead mom too,
and my wife. So yeah, yeah, they they know, they know,
they know how deeply I am. It would take my
heart stopping, yeah, for me not to be out there
in the sideline.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't love hearing that.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I remember Gary Kubiak had some heart issues too on
the sideline. That was really scary because he's laughing saying
that his heart would have to stop for him to stop.
So he is not stopping. He says he's gonna have
another check up in a couple of weeks. I think
he's going to wear something that monitors how the heart
is going now, so it's some sort of device, but
it's intense Jim Harbor is intense. He's got an intense
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football team that he's taken care of.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, I don't ever like to hear, you know, medical
situations like this, of course, but I'm not surprised because
because that intensity that you just spoke of. He's a
guy who has spawned many memes with his intensity on
the sideline, whether he was coaching at Michigan or with
the forty nine ers or even back at Stanford. So
hoping for the best and hopefully, you know, he monitors
his health and he'll be fine the long run.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, couple injuries to just recap quickly before we get
to our players of the week, Pat Certain and Chris o'lave.
They both look unlikely for Thursday night football. They both
had concussions on Sunday. Certain miss basically the entire game.
That's o Lavi's third concussion in three seasons. Just you know,
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you never want to see that one of them was
pretty severe a year ago. Rashid Shaheed surprisingly has a
concerning knee injury according to Ian Rappaport that could keep
him out this week that was not known during the game,
that popped up on Monday, and just the way Rapaport
said it, the Saints are just a mass unit. They
might get Taysom Hill back for this game, but that's
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scary for them. On Thursday night with Sean Payton coming
to town, Taj Spears is week to week with a
hamstring injury. Same with Jaguars running back Travis etm The
Jaguars made a trade sending Robert Roy Robertson Harris to
the Seahawks for a sixth round pick to kind of
a rotational defensive lineman. So he's got to go from
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London all the way over to Seattle and go play
this week. And people were saying, no, that's that's got
to be the longest possible trip that that you can make.
But it's not as long as to La. LA's further.
You know, you go over, you go over the top, right.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, that's true, that is true. And he he packed
for two weeks in.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
The circle, so LA's a solid extra hour and a
half or so. Uh, Finally we are going to do
what we do each and every week on this show. Yes,
it's time for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why don't you get us going shook all right. This
is gonna be way out of left field. But stick
with me here, and this is a name you should
pay attention to. The Buccaneers have a lot of young
defensive back you know, defensive backs that are solid players.
You know, Christianizing is one of them. You can name
a number of them that Zion McCollum h Servasier Dennis
perhaps the best name in football, but this week belonged
to none other than rookie safety Tike Smith. He finishes
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with five tackles. He finishes with a pick that was
at the end of a blowout win that didn't seem
like he was going to be a blowout win early
Well middleports portions of the game because early on he
forces a fumble on the play, actually Olave was concussed
on He forces a fumble right before Olave takes the
hit to the head and Antwine Winfield Junior recovers it
for a touchdown. He nearly did it again later in
the game, but it was called back by a penalty elsewhere.
(34:27):
I actually no it was. It was overturned on review.
But this guy is flying all over the field. He's
making plays, and he's another young capable player who made
a big part in this game as the Buccaneers rolled
to a victory that for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
There looked like it was a little dicey.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
They blew a seventeen to nothing lead early, but they
came back with a vengeance and he was a big.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, that game was absolutely drunk. I mean the bonkers.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It was just a crazy, crazy game.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'm going to the best game of the week in
my mind, which was Raven's Commanders. I'm giving it to
Zay Flowers nine for one, thirty two, all of it
in the first half. Every single target that went his
way included a forty four yard catch. I wanted to
give him some love just because I love his development.
I love the way Todd Monkin and Lamar Jackson are
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using him. He can create so much separation. I think
he's a little tougher than I would expect. You wouldn't
think that you could build so much of an offense
around a guy his size, and yet they're doing it.
He's not a traditional number one receiver, neither's Jaden Reid,
and yet those two guys are gonna be the number
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one receivers essentially for two of the best offenses.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So love a little second year player development from a
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you please drink responsibly?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's good. It's good to be back with you, Nick.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know, I know, it's great. It's great.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, I'm excited for the development of small receivers.
Tyreek Hill probably gets the nod for leading the way.
But what I'm more excited about.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
We had like five flea flickers this weekend. They all
worked to varying degrees or didn't work. I don't know
who sent like a message out like, hey, this is
flea Flicker weekend. But it preceded National tight End Day,
which is coming up in a few weeks, so why
not make it a holiday. But we do know one thing.
There's five flea flickers in a weekend. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Greg?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
That means football is back. We'll see you Wednesday.
And now Wilson comes to the left side Rogers in
the shotgun hal to his right on third and sixteen,
back to pass, Rogers looking to load up fires deep
rainbow down.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The field looking for Mike Williams, and it's intercepted.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Tarren Johnson.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back, a hu fungus interception by the nickel corner.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Welcome back to Taron Johnson, Welcome back to Trel Bernard,
Welcome back to me.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
I'm back state side.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
The Buffalo Bills are back in first place in the
AFC East. That was Chris Brown, of course, on the
Bills Radio network. Bills get to win twenty three to twenty.
On another entertaining primetime game, Aaron Rodgers. Nick Schook has
a chance for the third straight week to go win
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a game on a drive down just a few points
in the final minutes, and for the third straight week
he comes up short. Second straight week, it's an interception
on a pass intended for Mike Williams. Thank you, Nick,
by the way, for keeping the home front warm and
getting that Sunday night recap done just a night ago.
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And here you are right and off a good game tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, and I'll probably sleep better than Aaron Rodgers will
right now, because the man is clearly frustrated. Despite the
fact that the chain to Todd downing his play caller
did produce better results offensively, it ultimately ends up with
the same final result, which is a loss, and a
loss in which he, like you said, targeted Mike Williams
and got picked off to end their hopes and dreams.
I mean, it's got to be a tough time for
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the Jets right now, but a big win for the Bills.
Not because it was pretty, because we're not gonna lie
here and say it was pretty for anybody. Statistically it
was pretty visually, not so much because of all the penalties,
but a huge win for them after losing two straight
to get back on the right side of things.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, the penalties were crazy. It finishes with I believe
eleven penalties for both teams, the most penalty yards combined
in any game this season, and it could have been
even much higher because there were multiple plays in the
second half where there were offsetting penalties, where there was
a long PI that got called back because there was
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an offensive line holding penalty, and then just like matching holding.
So the second half you're right, was ugly. The first
half was it. I mean, the Bills offense played fantastic,
But talking about that ending, I thought both quarterbacks played
quite well in this game. Josh Allen very efficient making
plays outside the pocket. Aaron Rodgers, I thought, probably at
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his best game as a Jets quarterback, and considering he's
thrown one touchdown and eight interceptions on the season, like,
I actually think he's played reasonably well, but he's come
up short in these big spots, And it does make
you think about the differences between two quarterbacks, Like at
one point Aaron Rodgers was in the top five quarterbacks, right,
and it's because he had so many different ways he
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could beat you. And you think about the way this
game ended with them being able to blitz and get
to him before that play in a couple times late,
whereas Josh Allen, after that interception on third and five,
fakes a pick to the right, runs to the left,
and finishes the game like one of the best running
quarterbacks of all time, which he is, so he can
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beat in so many different ways. And to me, it
was a small difference in this game, but there was
a difference in quarterbacks in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now a small difference, but a massive difference when he
came down to winning football. I mean, it's that simple.
It's Josh Allen being able to extend plays, you know,
throwing a pass on the run to Ray Davis for
a pickup of forty two and a down they absolutely needed.
It was the fastest speed by a ball carrier on
a pass completed of that distance in the next gen
stats era, I believe. I mean, that's what Josh Allen
is capable of doing. And it's not that Aaron Rodgers
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played poorly because he didn't. You know, he's getting the
ball out quickly, he's making the proper reads and everything else.
I feel bad for him because for a stretch there,
Tyron Smith was serving him up on a platter to
aj A Panessa for sacks and crushing hits ones that
drew penalty is still you know, they pile up on
a guy like him. But yeah, Josh Allen, you know
he's He's in the top three in the QB Index
for a reason.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
There we go. It's simple.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I shouldn't be the only one doing self promotion on
this show all the time. Yes, everyone should check out
QB Index week after week Nick Shook killing it and yeah,
what what is the top three right now? Must be
Josh Allen, Lamar and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah it was this past week it was Lamar, Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen, maybe Alan behind my homes.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think Allen was still.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
At my home.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I might have Stroud right behind those.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Stroud was fifth. Yeah, he was right there.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Love it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, you look at Rogers' numbers. He takes five QB hits,
three sacks, and yet he wasn't pressured that much. And
so it's something that I've noticed throughout this season. He
gets rid of the ball quickly for the most part,
but when he does hold on to it, he tends
to take a lot of hits and the word is out.
I think in blitzing him that the Bills are not
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a heavy blitz team. But when they did blitz tonight,
he went one of four for eight yards and took
three sacks. So it has been something I think that
isn't shown in the numbers. That he is throwing the
ball well, but that when you get pressure in his face,
he's not reacting as well to it. Meanwhile, Josh Allen
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on third downs tonight was six of eight two touchdowns.
He had the two rushing first downs, and he has
no interceptions on the season, which is crazy and it's
a little misleading. It's a little lucky.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The ultimate Josh Allen moment in sequenced tonight, right before halftime,
He's running to the right outside the pocket inside the
ten with under a minute left in the second quarter,
and he gets loose with the ball and fumbles it
and they happen to recover after it bounces around between
the Bills and the Jets. And on the very next play,
he makes an awesome roll out to the left where
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he gets Dawson Knox for a touchdown that I thought
was going to be such a big moment in this
game shook, But all it did was set up Aaron
Rodgers for another magical hail Mary moment. After this play
that we're going to listen to, I was convinced the
Jets are winning this game. You can't lose a game
when Aaron Rodgers throws a hail Mary, can you.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Aaron Rodgers in a shotgun, takes the snap and drops
back again at two man rush steps up in the pocket,
has time and he's just gonna heave the ball towards
the Endzill Jets a hail mary into the Enzo. It's
sit around Alan Mazard, the ball pounces out.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He thought he had it for a touchdown. Did he
have it? It's a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's a hail mary touchdown to Allen Lazard.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Before halftime, w axq Bob with Susan that felt like
another moment where it's like, Wow, Aaron Rodgers is really
a Jet again. He's hitting the hailbary and that that
was the time. And the Bills end up blowing that
ten point lead and the Jets have a moment where
they actually think they take the lead, but it's called
back by a Tyron Smith holding penalty. You mentioned what
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a bad night he had, but I thought, wow, okay,
this is going to be the night a little Rogers
bagic in prime time and again he gets the chance
with a three point deficit late in the game, but
it just it just didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
But at least he gave us that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean, that was you know, classic Rogers. Everybody
on Twitter immediately is like, hey, he did it again,
fourth time in his career. He's throwing a hail mary
for a touchdown and that's great, And it felt like
one of those momentum swinging plays that basically led me
to believe that we're going to see the exact same
thing that happened between Jets and Bills last year also
in primetime, in which you know, they walk it off
with the Gibson punt return touchdown, and we never got
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that opportunity because instead and it ended in all too
familiar fashion with that pick.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But yeah, in that moment, that was great.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And what was also great Greg, I don't know if
a lot of people picked up on this, but I
certainly did. We had a little bit of a fail
Mary Part two where we had one official saying incomplete
and the other one's touchdown and I was like, oh,
please tell me photographers are catching this. I thought that
might be the only time, you know, back when it
happened in Seattle, that we'd ever see that, and we
got it for a moment there, even though they got
the call right.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, So we're gonna connect a couple of different threads
we've been talking about in this show. The officiating which
was questionable, some of the roughing the passer calls. There
was one on both sides were shaky, and there was
just so many penalties.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I'm so sick of the illegal formations.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
It is on pace right now to triple the amount
of illegal formations. I believe tonight we almost tied the
amount of illegal formations in the entire twenty twenty three seasons.
So all these freaking penalties, and Aaron Rodgers was complaining
about it, and he actually has a reference here back
to uh, yeah, when we had the replacement refs tonight.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, it seemed a little ridiculous. Yeah, some of them
seemed really bad, including the rough in the pastor on me,
and that's not rough in the passer. I was going
to play sarcasta ball if we're going to call those things.
And I thought the one on Kin Long was not
rough in the passer either.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So do you know what sarcast the ball is without googling?
I have Google. I was waiting for you to finish writing,
so I've done the research.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Honestly, I'm drawing a blank, so enlighten me.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's a South Park episode that they made about the
replacement refs where they created another sports so cast the ball,
and I do love it's in Rogers's wheelhouse age wise,
and certainly sense of humor that he just he just
throws that out there as if everyone knows it.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Good job.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was in college back then, so I do recall
my friends being very on top of it at that time.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That it was a really interesting press conference.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You'll probably see the photo of him just staring off
to space, wondering about the meaning of life, kind of
like thing at the end of Monday night football. I
kind of was feeling that way too. It's about five
thirty am back in London and then you know it's
up to a couple hours before racing to the airport.
So I am a little fried right now. So I
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was thinking that way too. But like at the end
of this game, he was asked about that William's route,
which felt typical that they can't get on the same page,
and he all but threw Williams under the bus for
not running the right route. Now, he didn't say he
ran the right wrong route, but he said that he's
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expecting him to run a certain way. I think he
called it like, I forget the wording that he used.
They explained Ryan Clark explained it on ESPN, But essentially
he thinks he's going to go vertical, but he's not
as outside. He sees him breaking one way before he
throws it, and he almost had to adjust the throw midway.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Williams has to come back for it. It was a
bad throw.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think Rogers was not so subtly saying that it
was a bad throw because he caught me off guard
for not being where I expected him to be.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, and that speaks to their lack of rapport because
the interception that he threw against the Vikings overseas was similar.
It was that they just don't understand where each other
wants to each other to be at a certain time
where you know, he throws that pass, he gets picked
off against the Vikings. That would have been a great
backshoulder throw, but Mike Williams continues running downfield, and this
time Mike Williams is not quite running the same route
that he won, ends up in another interception, a spectacular interception,
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noe less like. It was definitely a great play, but
a play that Mike Williams slips and falls trying to
get back to the ball because they're not on the
same page, which is just indicative of where the Jets
offense has been even after the play color change, it's
still where they kind of are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, so you mentioned the play color change. I do
think there were more open receivers tonight that the running
game looked fantastic, especially in the first half. Breestau goes
eighteen for one to thirteen. At mid third quarter, they
had seven twenty plus yard plays, so this was an
explosive offense. They put up almost four hundred yards. I
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don't know if they got another twenty yard play after that.
I don't think they did. Garrett Wilson had a nice night.
Lizard's having a nice season in general, so it's not
like they're that far away. But there's always just one
thing that's going wrong. Tyron Smith tonight, Joe Tipman had
a big penalty in this game, and they just can't
get it consistent enough. When they have a chance to
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take the lead, they get in. I had the five
yard line. You expect them to be able to punch
it in instead of penalty blows it there. So I
don't think they're done yet. And the coach of the
Jets actually agrees with me, Jeff Ahlbrick.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Let's listen to him.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
I think there's always a sense of urgency. There has
to be, you know, that's just the nature of this league.
But at the same time, two of four is by
we are by no means out of this thing, by
no means. I know the character that locker room. I
know the way we will respond. I know that I
thought this week's process was right. I thought the way
we were prepared was exceptional, you know, And we got
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to start stacking these weeks of exceptional preparation and I
promise you it'll start to pay off on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They felt like they were closer this week, right, Greg,
Like they felt even with the coaching change and everything else.
And that's a guy who had run a brick through
a brick wall for right, but they felt like they
were closer than they'd been in the last few weeks,
even if they didn't get the job done.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yes, well, offensively, they were much better.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He's calling the defense Brick is what Rogers called him
at his press coverence, and he was gushing about what
a good job Brick has been doing. So that, yeah,
I think is somewhat telling. He's got the seal of
approval from Aaron Rodgers. And defensively, they did not play
well in the first half. Second half, they tightened up
on the Bill's four possessions of the second half. They
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miss a field goal Tyler Bass cost them four points
in this game.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Greg zerline.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
On the other side, it was very windy, missed two kicks,
doinked them both.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You don't see that too much.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And then punt punt, and then that long field goal
drive that ultimately was the game winning drive. So the
Jets defense wasn't great, Brick said it was not too
much for him to call all the plays. I think
ultimately you're right, they were closer on offense. It really
felt like the play caller change was effective. We should
give some love to the Bill's offense and Ray Davis.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I love me some Ray Davis. Just the way he runs.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
There's an aggression that sometimes running backs don't have after
their rookie year or their second year, and Ray Davis
has it right now. He just runs so hard and
you can't teach that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think diehard listeners NFL Daily might recall me pointing
out Ray Davis in the preseason as a guy to
watch out for. He is a low center of gravity
runner who's hard to bring down on first contact.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He runs hard. He did that tonight. They had that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Their first scoring drive was a statement drive. Six of
their nine plays are Ray Davis caries. He totals like
forty eight yards on that drive alone, marches them down
the field. And I'm sitting there watching it, just going, yes,
we're getting the Ray Davis game. And that's before he
even got involved in the passing game. And you know what,
let's give a tip of the cap to the Bill's
defense too. Taylor Rap made a couple of really big
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hits and timely plays, breaking up passes that could have
swung the game, including a pass to Garrett Wilson in
the end zone. Jets had to settle for a field
goal in that situation. Like the Bill's defense did come
to play and made some big stops and key moments.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, that Taylor Rap hit in the end zone, like
you mentioned, was huge, And at the end of the game,
I think Tabar Hamlin had had a tough game, but
they are a much better defense in general with Taron
Johnson and Trell Bernard.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh yeah out there.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And he Rap's been a little up and down this year,
but he played well tonight. I did notice after the
game there was some social media going around that Tomorrow,
Hamlin got Aaron Rodgers's jersey after the game, got the
jersey swap with a little autograph saying You're an inspiration
to me. I think it was a surprise. He was
just in his locker room and Rogers had sent it over.
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And you forget that these guys are just you know,
they're still fans. He was probably a fan of Aaron
Rodgers when Rogers was an MVP, and he said he
felt like a kid on Christmas. What's better than not
only getting Aaron rodgers jersey, but beating him along the way.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, and then getting the jersey after the fact like that.
That's how you know right there that you've made an impact.
And he's got an inspiring story and it's beautiful to
see him out there. Honestly, sometimes a little surprising to
see him out there and just laying his body on
the line after what happened to him. But that's football,
and these are football players more than anything. Like something
like that just illustrates the fact that look their competitors
and their opponents and everything else, but they're all doing
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the same thing, which is playing a kids game. For
varying sums of money and they know the sacrifice that's involved.
And tomorrow Hamlin's definitely gotten an up close experience with
just you know how much of a zachrific could be.
And I'm sure he very much appreciates every snap that
he gets to play now that he's healthy and back
on the field.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So before we move on and take a little break,
I do want to just put where this puts the
team at four and two.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
You're up two.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Games now, the Bills are over the Jets in the division,
and you have the tie break.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That's significant.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And if there was one person that was happier that
Robert Salah lost his job in the AFCs, I don't
know if it was anyone but Josh Allen. I mean,
Josh Allen's had a nightmare against these Robert sala defenses
over the years. His numbers have been brutal, and tonight
was the opposite nineteen for twenty five two hundred and
fifteen yards and two touchdowns and had the two key rushes,
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He had the score and then the play at the end.
It was his third best game of his career in
terms of completion percentage over expected that Ray Davis throw
against his body probably.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Was a part of that number two.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
So like he he's settled down after a couple down weeks.
That's going to be the Josh Allen experience. But are
you worried, Nick about the lack of weapons. Davis leads
the team in receiving because he has that one play.
Dalton Kincaid was finally a little more involved six for
fifty one, not really hitting big plays, and then their
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leader in terms of receiving yards was Curtis Samuel because
he got that one big play.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
But otherwise it's Keon.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Coleman getting almost the most I mean not the most targets,
but the most routes run. It's just it's a little rough.
They need Colio security to be healthier. He was out
there tonight, but not every time, but I think that's
something to watch it as the trade deadline approaches.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Kean Coleman actually dropped a pass that would have been
a beautiful completion just in front of the end zone there,
so you know, but he's a rookie, Like this is
what we kind of should have expected going to the season.
You lose Digs, you lose Gabe Davis. You have to
rebuild your receiving cord and you're relying heavily on a rookie.
This is they're gonna take a bit of a step
back when it comes to connecting with these guys. Especially
we saw it in Houston. A lot of them just
are on the same page. I mean, at the end
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of that game, Mac Collins and Josh Allen is not
in the same page on a completable pass.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you're gonna have these issues.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The fun thing about this matchup is like they are
out there hitting, we're getting flags for them getting in
fights between quarters. That was the only flag I enjoyed.
Like that was the only flag I enjoyed. The lights
were out and they're pushing and on the field. I
know it wasn't all clean, but this was a physical
game between two teams that genuinely don't seem to like
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each other that much. And once again it looks like
it's the Bill's division. I'm not rolling the Jets out yet.
I know it's a dark time for the Jets, but
and they have the Steelers on the road this week,
that's a big game. After that, the schedule eases up
relatively down this stretch.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean, Albert kind of said it right there,
we're by no means out of it. Yeah, you're two
and four, but you have a lot of season left,
and when you look at the Jets schedule, I just
think about the next two weeks because they're always the
most important. What's your weakness right now? Your defense is not.
I mean, statistically, they are a number two defense in
terms of yards lot per game, but we've seen them
give up big point totals in primetime games. Right We're
going into another primetime game on Sunday night against the
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Steelers this week, but at the same time, you're facing
one of the least explosive offenses in the NFL. So
if your offense is actually where you think it is
after tonight, you're gonna play a better defense than the Steelers.
But if your offense is where you think it is tonight,
that's a winnable game. You dominated New England. Yes, you
have to go there in the following week, but that's
another winnable, very winnable game. So before you know it,
you could be four and four and feel much better
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about your team right now, So you want to hit
the panic button because it's frustrating, and you see hereon
Rodgers frustrated. But I'm telling you right now, Jets fans,
right out a little bit longer before you decide to
jump ship.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I like the optimism that Sunday Night one is huge.
Three and four feels way different to me than two
and five with it potentially coming apart at the seams.
As Troy Yiekman said after the game, I'm like, what
does Troy know? He thinks this thing might collapse a
little under its own weight, so maybe maybe he is
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picking up a few things.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
All right, we are going to take a break.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We're going to come back on the other side, do
some news, give our Captain of the Week, and then
I'm going to go to sleep. Back on NFL Daily. Yes,
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back in America. Didn't miss a snap shook. The plane
landed about forty minutes early. Watch some of the first
quarter in the uber home, but didn't didn't miss a snap.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
We're here.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's the beauty. That's the beauty of rideshare coming from Lax.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah about arriving at Lax, but it was a lovely time.
And shout out to the fan. I'm glad that you're
on this show with me because this would have slipped
my mind. Shout out to the fan that came up,
the listener that said he really enjoys the nick shook
the recaps, So you got one.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Here we go, all right, there we go. One fan overseas.
That's one more than I have to have one.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You know, if I'm only meeting like a sample of them,
then you can extrapolate it out.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It's like a poll.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So that means there's there's thousands of shooky fans out
there in the UK and worldwide. But it is great
to be back, and yes, I'll be back in the
studio to do our next show with Colleen and Jordan,
and we're.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Back on our regular schedule.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So I appreciate everyone listening last week and dealing with
all the different times that the show was going up.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Let's do some news.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hutchinson will be out four to six months with a
fractured tibia and fibula and the range of outcomes that
was possible after this injury.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
As Dan Campbell put.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It, this probably was on the more positive side. How
I read into that is that it was essentially closer
to like a clean break instead of ligament damage, and
sometimes where it's at the ankle and the leg that
four to six month timeline would indicate it's more of
a traditional recovery. Everything goes well, they're even thrown out there,
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like maybe he'd be ready for the super Bowl if
they got there late in the playoffs, but either way,
they're going to be shorthanded for the rest of the
regular season.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, you'd have to come through on the short side
of that timeline. I'm just glad that he avoided the
Alex Smith scenario or even the Teddy Bridgewater scenario when
he had, like grew some knee injury, you know, because
any type of compound fracture, anything significant like that, you
always fear that. So it sucks because they lose their
best pass rusher and it's a department for them that
they've already kind of lacked depth then, but this is football.
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This is part of what happens. So they're gonna have
to find out a way to go forward without him.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, we dove deep into it on the Recap show
on Sunday night Monday morning. I recommend everyone check that out.
I mean, it's about as long as a Godfather movie.
I saw that they pop up in my phone when
I woke up this morning. It's like, oh, I did
not realize we went that long late into the night.
So yeah, we tried to come up with seven fun
We'll see, it was a lot of fun. I want
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to give you another updated injury which we weren't aware
of on Sunday, which was Jonathan Allen. But the commanders
did not think that was a major injury, and it
turns out he is going to miss the season with
a tornpeck torol muzzle. Jonathan Allen was one of the
best defensive tackles ends kind of a hybrid interior player
in the league for a handful of seasons. I would
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say he wasn't playing at that level since the start
of twenty twenty three. That continued this year, but he
still was a ardor and a significant player on a
team that doesn't have a lot of defensive talent.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's also the guy who has the third highest cap
number on the roster right now. That's always a big
blow when you lose a guy who's making that much money. Yeah,
PFF didn't have him great very well last year or
into this year, but it's a blow for them and
now they have to lean on Jerson Newton. The rookie
out of Illinois to replace him, and I expect them
to make a roster move just for death purposes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I liked me some Jerry Newton in the pre draft process,
thought thought he was good.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I've tried to keep an eye on him in these games.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It's tough if you're not watching the All twenty two,
but he's made a lot of splash plays. I think
he probably has like a lot of negative plays, but
he goes for big plays. So he's kind of fun
to watch. This Washington team. I want them to stay
in the mix, stay in the playoff race. They're going
to do it with offense, but they need a little
help from their defense. The Colts are expected to start
Anthony Richardson this week, so he was close to starting
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on Sunday. They decided to give Flacco one more go.
He gets to win. At three and three. They haven't
been impressive, but they're in the mix in what's going
to be I think kind of a weird and ugly
race for the last couple AFC spots. I don't know
if it's like a deep conference right now. We'll see,
but I feel like nine wins might get you that
seventh spot. Like someone's going to get a tiebreaker at
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nine wins in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, this season's gonna been like that. There's a lot
of gray area. It's hard to project at this point.
But I'll tell you what, Greg, Joe Flaco put together
two very solid games. And back in the day when
football players weren't making crazy money, a lot of guys
went and got off season jobs, some of them door
to door insurance salesman.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I know you're not going to need employment afterward, but
because of how you perform last year and in these
two games this year, you're the best insurance policy an
NFL team could find.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
No Flacco insurance. Baby, let's go right now.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I was wondering where you were going with that shook
with some dad humor. I'm the dad here. Let's go
to Philadelphia. I mean, man, Nick Sirianni every week has
some story that he's apologizing for after the fact or
explaining after the fact. Where he's the main character. You know,
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we talk about different people that have main character energy.
It's like, doesn't matter what happens with the Eagles, we're
talking about Nick Sirianni. Let's hear him talk about what
happened with his home crowd fans on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Now, I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday.
And I'm sorry and disappointed on how my energy was
directed at the end of the game. And you know,
my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating right
and celebrating with our guys, and so you know, that's
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you know, and I got to have better wisdom and
discernment of when to use that energy, and that wasn't
and that wasn't the time.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Great go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
This this reads like he got a talking to from
the principle and had to go out and apologize to
his classmates after breaking some sort of he cost them
their pizza party. That's essentially what he's speaking like this
in this situation. And look, he has energy. He's got
bro energy, He's got D three football energy. And as
somebody who's familiar with D three football, that comes right
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out of the OAC Baby he went to Mount Union.
And he still acts like it sometimes, especially in situations
like when they get a win over the lowly Browns
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Well, it just seems like he's spinning all season, reacting
from one last thing he did, and then overreacting and
going too far the other way, and then going too
far the other way, and trying to figure out what
he actually does, because he says it partly came from
he talked with his players like Jalen and aj Brown,
and they were telling him during the biway, you be you,
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you be, you know, get back to being crazy Nick.
We like crazy Nick, and then he like goes goes
too hard, yelling at fans, and it's all a little
mystifying and makes me think that maybe they should have
just made a clean break of it at the end
of last season. But then I saw one tweet which
made me rethink this whole story, and they said, Nick Sirianni,
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I have no problem with him yelling at the fans
because I can guarantee you if you met whoever that
was that he yelled at, it would be one of
the ten worst people you've ever met in your life.
And I thought, you're probably right, for whoever was yelling
at him to make Sirianni mad enough for him to
do that, I bet that was true.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, that's a good point, but it is a lot
of come at me bro energy, and it's just like
a broof like I went a side note. I went
to the Guardians Tigers Alds, you know, decisive Game five
on Saturday, and I'm watching a Tiger's fan flipping off
this whole section of Guardians fans and waving his talent
and everything. And that guy had big come at me
bro energy, except Sirianni was on the winning side, so
he was able to have the last laugh.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's bold.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You cannot do that, uh at Yankee Stadium or no friendly,
especially Fenway. No, like New York fans have a bad rap.
Back back when I was going to those games in
three h four, sort of at the peak of the
Yankees Red Sox rivalry, it was not great to be
a Red Sox fan at Yankee Stadium. You probably don't
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even want to wear your hat, and if you do,
when you're leaving, like keep it, keep it tucked on.
You know, you might get ripped off and thrown away.
But it was way worse and way more aggressive if
you were a Yankees fan at Fenway. Unfortunately. To be honest,
all right, let's go to the Dolphins. Mike McDaniel says
he expects to a tug of Iloa to play in
twenty twenty four. It didn't give a timeline on it,
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but basically said it's coming. So that's an interesting addition
to the story. There are two and three. You never
know if they could get to a back soon. They're
not technically out of it, as bad as they've looked
on the field. Kevin Stefanski did the Monday follow up
nick that he's sticking with Watson. We don't need to
go deep into it. I think everyone knows at this
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point he's one of the worst quarterbacks through six weeks
in the last twenty years. But I did think it
was notable because I thought this Monday was a possible
chance that he would change his mind and make the move,
and he is not making the move.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think we're creeping toward and maybe slowly building more
speed toward a decision, probably at the point where Stefanski
starts to feel his own job threatened, and even for
a two time Coach of the Year, you continue at
this rate, you're gonna have to make a change before
long to save your job.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
So I think it'll happen eventually.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Right, I mean, that's even assuming it's his choice to make.
Andrew Berry is involved the ownership is involved mutiny. I
wonder about Andrew Berry's job. I know he signed that contract. Yeah,
he's weirdly skated on making the worst trade in NFL history,
just saying.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Jim Harbaugh had that scary incident that included a heart murmur,
which is something he's been dealing with. We found out
recently that happened on the sideline during the win over
the Broncos. He spoke Monday after visiting a doctor earlier
in the day.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
I talk to John to talk to my dead mom too,
and my wife. So yeah, yeah, they they know, they know,
they know how deeply I am. It would take my
heart stopping, yeah, for me not to be out there
in the sideline.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't love hearing that.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I remember Gary Kubiak had some heart issues too on
the sideline. That was really scary because he's laughing saying
that his heart would have to stop for him to stop.
So he is not stopping. He says he's gonna have
another check up in a couple of weeks. I think
he's going to wear something that monitors how the heart
is going now, so it's some sort of device, but
it's intense Jim Harbor is intense. He's got an intense
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football team that he's taken care of.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, I don't ever like to hear, you know, medical
situations like this, of course, but I'm not surprised because
because that intensity that you just spoke of. He's a
guy who has spawned many memes with his intensity on
the sideline, whether he was coaching at Michigan or with
the forty nine ers or even back at Stanford. So
hoping for the best and hopefully, you know, he monitors
his health and he'll be fine the long run.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, couple injuries to just recap quickly before we get
to our players of the week, Pat Certain and Chris o'lave.
They both look unlikely for Thursday night football. They both
had concussions on Sunday. Certain miss basically the entire game.
That's o Lavi's third concussion in three seasons. Just you know,
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you never want to see that one of them was
pretty severe a year ago. Rashid Shaheed surprisingly has a
concerning knee injury according to Ian Rappaport that could keep
him out this week that was not known during the game,
that popped up on Monday, and just the way Rapaport
said it, the Saints are just a mass unit. They
might get Taysom Hill back for this game, but that's
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scary for them. On Thursday night with Sean Payton coming
to town, Taj Spears is week to week with a
hamstring injury. Same with Jaguars running back Travis etm The
Jaguars made a trade sending Robert Roy Robertson Harris to
the Seahawks for a sixth round pick to kind of
a rotational defensive lineman. So he's got to go from
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London all the way over to Seattle and go play
this week. And people were saying, no, that's that's got
to be the longest possible trip that that you can make.
But it's not as long as to La. LA's further.
You know, you go over, you go over the top, right.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, that's true, that is true. And he he packed
for two weeks in.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
The circle, so LA's a solid extra hour and a
half or so. Uh, Finally we are going to do
what we do each and every week on this show. Yes,
it's time for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why don't you get us going shook all right. This
is gonna be way out of left field. But stick
with me here, and this is a name you should
pay attention to. The Buccaneers have a lot of young
defensive back you know, defensive backs that are solid players.
You know, Christianizing is one of them. You can name
a number of them that Zion McCollum h Servasier Dennis
perhaps the best name in football, but this week belonged
to none other than rookie safety Tike Smith. He finishes
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with five tackles. He finishes with a pick that was
at the end of a blowout win that didn't seem
like he was going to be a blowout win early
Well middleports portions of the game because early on he
forces a fumble on the play, actually Olave was concussed
on He forces a fumble right before Olave takes the
hit to the head and Antwine Winfield Junior recovers it
for a touchdown. He nearly did it again later in
the game, but it was called back by a penalty elsewhere.
(34:27):
I actually no it was. It was overturned on review.
But this guy is flying all over the field. He's
making plays, and he's another young capable player who made
a big part in this game as the Buccaneers rolled
to a victory that for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
There looked like it was a little dicey.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
They blew a seventeen to nothing lead early, but they
came back with a vengeance and he was a big.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, that game was absolutely drunk. I mean the bonkers.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It was just a crazy, crazy game.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'm going to the best game of the week in
my mind, which was Raven's Commanders. I'm giving it to
Zay Flowers nine for one, thirty two, all of it
in the first half. Every single target that went his
way included a forty four yard catch. I wanted to
give him some love just because I love his development.
I love the way Todd Monkin and Lamar Jackson are
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using him. He can create so much separation. I think
he's a little tougher than I would expect. You wouldn't
think that you could build so much of an offense
around a guy his size, and yet they're doing it.
He's not a traditional number one receiver, neither's Jaden Reid,
and yet those two guys are gonna be the number
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one receivers essentially for two of the best offenses.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So love a little second year player development from a
wide receiver Zay Flowers getting it done for the Ravens,
for Lamar Jackson for his fantasy owners. Yes, that was
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(36:00):
you please drink responsibly?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's good. It's good to be back with you, Nick.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know, I know, it's great. It's great.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, I'm excited for the development of small receivers.
Tyreek Hill probably gets the nod for leading the way.
But what I'm more excited about.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
We had like five flea flickers this weekend. They all
worked to varying degrees or didn't work. I don't know
who sent like a message out like, hey, this is
flea Flicker weekend. But it preceded National tight End Day,
which is coming up in a few weeks, so why
not make it a holiday. But we do know one thing.
There's five flea flickers in a weekend. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Greg?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
That means football is back. We'll see you Wednesday.
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