November 4, 2025 • 38 mins
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Colleen Wolfe to react to the 2025 NFL Trade Deadline. The trio tells you what they think about the Jets trading Sauce Gardner to the Colts (01:50) and Quinnen Williams to the Cowboys (10:40) along with Rashid Shaheed being traded from the Saints to the Seahawks (22:38), Jakobi Meyers being traded from the Raiders to the Jaguars (28:45) and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a deadline. I'm
Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. Trade
Deadline is over. I'm with Jordan Rodrieg and I'm with
Colleen Wolf. Heyo, we got to see you next Tuesday.
Crew back for the first time in a minute on
one of the biggest Tuesdays on the NFL Challenge Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It is and on you know America's calendar, because it
is election day as well.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Get out to the Tuesday all around at Steve.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Mariucci's birthday, Happy Birthday, the mooch.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Look, I already voted. I pre voted, and I put
it in the envelope and then I went for a
short run and put it into the closest voter box
because I love a functional run. Let's talk trades. This
is right after the you know how, like very often
on these types of shows, do you need that my
note card?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
One?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Flying Jordan does a like it. They're in the middle
of the table.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like, oh, you know, we really build kind of
bothering me. We really build up the trade deadline to
be such a big deal and then it doesn't end
up being that big of a deal false, And you
know what happened to be this year a big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This is the opposite of how I treat my writing
deadlines like they don't really exist. This was actually exists.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was a huge deal. I do love deadlines.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I only work with a deadline. There's I can't work
unless I have a deadline.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Apparently the New York Jets, who I do feel like,
has been have been a subject on a lot of Tuesdays.
We were here for the Robert Sala firing, we were
here for some other assorted last year events, and now
we're talking about a complete restructuring of who we thought
the Jets were, but more important, who we thought the
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Indianapolis Colts were. Let's start with the sauce Gardner trade,
because that was the most rising, that was the biggest.
We'll get to Quinn Williams and everything else that happened today,
but Sauce Gardner is an Indianapolis Colt. Love it. The
Jets receive twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven first
round picks from the Colts and ad Mitchell, which feels
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just like a little throwing But I actually think that's
a nice little part of the deal. For the Jets.
We'll get to the Jets side of things, but I
do think it's for the twenty twenty five season more
interesting that your Colts are going all in in a
way that probably surprises the outside universe, but I think
actually makes a lot of sense when you think about
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how their team is structured. As a not so secret
Colts believer, Colleen, how did this trade make you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I've well, first of all, I love that you're calling
them my Colts, because this was the one year that
I was like, all right, I'm not going to do it,
not to do this, but I do you know think Mae.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Connie Bowl is on the table here? Eagles?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh my god, can you imagine? Okay, First of all,
this is such.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
A departure from how Chris Ballard the Colts GM usually operates.
He's pretty conservative, he loves the draft and develops strategy.
So the fact that he traded like this for such
a splashy player, and there was so much given away
as well in it was just sort of a little
bit of a surprise, a lot a bit of a surprise.
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But it also just goes to show how confident this
regime is in the current roster that it's not a
blip for them that they are all in, and I
love the move for them.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's the epitome of aggression right down to the player himself,
and certainly with how Sauce Gardner has been playing and
just some of the vibes in New York just continued losing,
getting sort of that stink out and really going to
a place that is on a roll really other than
a little blip last week. And he's an aggressive player.
He allows them to mix their coverages. He wants to
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play man coverage, he wants to make plays on the
ball on a rumo in his renaissance. Yeah, Big Glue
is having Uh. He's a perfect player for him because
he can do a lot of different things and he
can be as aggressive as as he wants, especially with
a front that's playing well and a pass rush that's
playing well. You can really compliment that with a player
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like sas Gardner. And I want to say too, the
aggression that you noted, Colleen, I think is so important
because there were some real, I guess like come to
Jesus conversations that have happened within that building. It's real
understanding where their roster was at and where they had
sort of carried themselves down the decision making process knowing
they had a good roster and this a really continuous
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group between Ed Dodds, Kevin Rogers and John Shaw, all
those guys in scouting and pro personnel and player personnel
they have. They had to really say, really, where is
our roster at and plug in the right quarterback and
make an egoist decision to move on from a perceived
mistake at that time and then really understand where they're
at as a team in of making a real, real
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contention push. Making a move like this is a real
contention push.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, that's the thing. It didn't make sense because Daniel
Jones their quarterback. But they were among the biggest win
now teams in the league. And that's when I was
making the mia culpa about being so wrong about this
Colts team. That is one thing that you could have
seen that they have incredible continuity. They have a lot
of guys in their primes when you think about Michael
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Pittman and Pierce and their offensive line for the most
part and downs and everything, and then they also have
like some players that aren't going to be around that
much longer, like Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner have been
around forever, Sire Franklin and Kenny Moore, like they're at
the point of their careers where it's like, okay, it's
year to year, and most of these guys have been
in this system on both sides of the ball in
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terms of the offensive system has been there, and then
the players have been there on the defensive side. And
you get lou An Arumo and he was such an
important part of it, and you think, okay, cornerback is
very unpredictable, and the Colts and the Jets would probably
say sas Gardner over the last year and a half
has not been as good as he was the previous
two years. But you do get a coordinator in lou
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Anarumo that you feel like can maximize everything that sas
Gardner does. So I think that's a big part of
that is like faith in lou in addition to faith
in sas Gardner, whose contract extension that he just signed
in July literally hasn't even started.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Part ye part you'd like the Jets obviously were not
planning on trade at him if they gave him this
contract in the offseason, and it's just such a huge
fire sale for them, like they are now just in
full rebuild. To trade him and Quinnin Williams, like these
two players together just shows you that they're ready to
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implode the whole operation at this point.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I can't remember Race Hall. I was gonna say, I
can't remember a team like doing this quite as aggressively
in recent memory. Because to go over the picks they
have now, they have three firsts in twenty twenty seven,
and they're not like you know, the NBA, sometimes you
get it first and it's like it's like the Thunders first.
It's like that's the twenty ninth pick in the draft.
They have their own first, the Cowboys first, and the
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Colts first, like that could be pretty good in twenty
twenty seven. You don't know what the Colts are going
to be, like you we don't know what the Cowboys
are going to be like. They also have two first
this year, you know, in twenty six in the next draft,
and two seconds, so they only had two top one
hundred picks actually before this trade happened, so that was weird.
They are a team though, that has done this before.
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They actually had three first round picks in twenty twenty two.
That's how they got some of these players. And it
doesn't didn't necessarily go well, but they are loaded up
in terms of picks. So I even though I was
smarmy kind of thinking like, wow, they could even get
good players like Quentinn Williams and Sauce Gardner maybe if
they're lucky with these picks, I actually don't hate it
for the Jets. I think it makes sense for both sides,
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especially in this sauce Gardner deal.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think this is totally allowed to be a win
win trade. Yeah, honestly because for all parties involved, because
it's great for the Cowboys to get a player of
Quinn Williams caliber. And I know we're going to get
to that particular move in a minute, but in speaking
of the Jets specifically, I think it is so refreshing
when a team actually admits that they have to commit
to a rebuild before the trade deadline of that same
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season happens, because the draft. You need to recoup some
of that AMMO ahead of that Springs draft. If you're
really going to be aggressive about where you're at and
be very honest about where you're at as a roster
and the way that it's constructed. And I think that
that you have a new set of talent evaluators in
under Darren Muji and a new regime and a new
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head coach, and so you're going to start installing your
players with those picks and we'll see if it works
out for him obviously short term and long term. But
in terms of understanding what you are first of all,
which I think the Colts are doing really really well.
On the other side, understanding which you are not, which
I don't really think the Jets moved this preseason and
start of the regular season like they were really realistic
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about who they actually were. They they are trying to
push it. Well, I think all of us were kind of,
like I said it myself, I was like, I kind
of am in on the Jets with what they're doing. Well,
they just weren't that team. They didn't really have that.
They didn't ultimately have the answer at quarterback. They certainly
did not have the answer on the on defense. They
certainly need to make some moves additionally to what they
already have on offense, all on every phase. And so
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I think admitting that before the trade deadline, the Bengals,
for example, are not admitting this before trade deadlines. Other
teams that are not contenders and need to rebuild in
a big way or at least fully rebuild one side
of the ball, Like I find it refreshing that they've
done this.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I was talking about this with Daniel Jeremiah. We have
a move the sticks. We not move the sticks?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Wow, it are you James Irwin and Pat Miller?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Pat Miller and Crime.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm not trying their social.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm not trying to get on that podcast. We have
a Forties and Free Agents coming out later this week.
We were talking about this off air and it's just
like building around defense. It is tough. It's very much
the Bill Polian method from twenty years ago. But I
totally agree with that. Offense is more consistent, and I
think if you're going to invest like most of your
resources on defense, the path is way thinner. And that's
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where the Jets were at. They were with this Robert
solid defense. The defense was great under Robert Salad. These
were two of the best players, and I think it
had really soured. You heard from Connor Hughes, A s
and Y. I've heard this separately that like Quinn Williams
seem like the happiest guy ever, and at one point
and he was kind of done, can.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You be I'm so so excited that we get to
see Quinn and Williams smile again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, this is so great. All right, let's let's go
over that. I still think we should have a few
things on the sauce. But let's talk about exactly what
they got for Quinn Williams. So the Cowboys get Quinn
Williams the Cowboys. It's just outrageous. And they get a
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twenty twenty evan first round pick from the Cowboys, and
it'll either be the Cowboys first round pick or the
Packers first round pick, whichever is higher, which to me
is a great little wrinkle. It's a great little NBA
wrinkle and a nice piece of business by the Jets
to cover themselves there. They also get a twenty twenty
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six second round pick, and they also get Mozzy Smith
thrown in the deal. So, if you really want to
have your brain broken, here's the Michael Parsons trade. Like
that's it, big picture here, it is. They essentially traded
away Micah Parsons and Mazzy Smith for Quinn Williams and
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Kenny Clark and a move up like twenty spots to
the back end of the first round of the draft,
which is not that much in my opinion. I know
it's a lot to consider, but we'll consider this one
like on its own. What do you think about the
Cowboys getting Quinn Williams.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think that it immediately addresses their run defense, which
is helpful for them. Obviously he's really good in the
middle of the field there.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
But I just feel like this trade kind.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of shows that obviously Jerry Jones is maybe regretful of
moving Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons who potentially wins Defensive Player
of the Year, and all of their defensive struggles stem
from that move specifically, So now he's trying to go
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back all in since I mean, even before last night,
before last night, the narrative of the Cowboys was their
offense is so good, their defense is not holding up
this end of the bargain. And then last night, I mean,
you saw what the Cardinals were able to do. Their
defense was a disaster the Dallas Cowboys. So I like
the move, and I'm happy for Quinn Williams, but I
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just feel like Ultimately, the Cowboys should have never traded
away Michael Parsons in the first place.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think it's it's coming to terms with the fact
that you can't put the lid back on the pot,
right right, And maybe I said that in a little
Jerry jonesy way. I can't put the lid back on
the pot.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I don't know toothpaste back.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
If he's more about like glory hole, I was going
to say, wow and trying to do something with mosquitos.
He's always talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Right, glory hole.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, So I feel like this is actually him and
the team itself understanding like what's done is done.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
You have to plan.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
For the future here. I do like that the Cowboys
still have their twenty twenty six first round picks.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I also like that this offense is clearly an elite group,
to the point where if we are even at a
looking at a medium level defense, you're talking about a
for sure playoff contender, maybe even a team that can
make a run. Now we're not talking about that, We're
talking about an offense that they are clearly hoping is
going to continue to be play at this caliber. Maybe
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regress a little bit, but probably not a ton because
of all of the guys that they have in some
of the young guys especially have upfront, can still play
at this caliber. Quinn Williams is only twenty seven years old,
he'll be twenty eight next year. When I do think
that they're going that they think their defense will be
ready to match the level of the offense. So I
just think this is obviously a little late of a
move for this season, but it's also sort of a
coming to terms with what you did first of all,
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and what now you have to do next in order
to get this group as competitive as it needs to be,
seeing how far beyond and above schedule your offense is
and where your defense at least needs to hit the
floor of in order to have a more compliment menory group.
That's twenty twenty six to me, and it's good that
they have those picks because if you draft well in
a couple key spots on defense, you can play those
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guys right away. You're not inserting them into a complicated
series of passing layers. You're not asking you a rookie
running back run to pass block for you. You're not
asking an offensive lineman to be really good right away. No,
you're plugging in defensive players who grow as the season continues,
with some weight bearing walls, and quinnin Williams is certainly
one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But that's also to your point about looking ahead to
the draft, seeing how Quinn Williams affects the defense, and
then being able to plan ahead.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, now what do we need to do point our
draft strategy?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I love Quinn Williams. But they didn't get any
extra picks in the end. I mean, that's crazy. They
traded away Michael Parsons and they don't have any extra picks.
They just like moved up twenty Essentially, they moved up
from the Jets you know, second round or their second
round pick to the Packers' first round pick whatever ends
up that being. Let's right now, it would be about
twenty picks.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And I'm not saying the logistics or their return on
the trade is necessarily great. I'm just saying I can
see what their process was after they realized that there's
no turning back or getting there.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The process is like is make it up as you
go along, and a lot of it I think is emotional.
I mean, Jerry Jones even talked about on Monday how
annoyed he was about Michael Parsons lying down on that
trainer's table, which is, by the way, good move by
Michael Parsons. It really sounded like that was kind of
the last thing he was just like, would Michael Irvin
have ever done that? Would Deon Sanders have ever done that?
And it's like they're having to answer for a boss
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that's like, go go get me someone.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think Quinn Williams is great. He is three years
older if we're kind of comparing him and Sauce, but
I think he's probably a safer overall long term. Bet.
I just think when you look at these three trades
in general, when you're talking about the Michael Parsons, it's
kind of crazy to me that Sauce Gardner went for
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the same price as Michael Parsons. Essentially, I would argue
because I like it. I'd rather have Adi Mitchell maybe
on his money than Kenny Clark. Like Sauce Gardner costs more,
but essentially Sas Gardner and Michael Parsons cost about the same,
Michael Parsons and Quinn Williams were pretty close to the same,
and that a miss evaluation of Michael Parsons and Cowboys
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fans would be like, well that's in the past. Now
we're just talking about the president. Well it's all it's
all together, you know, you have to evaluate it all together.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And I do want to say a couple of these
teams of Packers specifically and the Colts, they are they
do share a very similar quality, which is that they
believe they're going to make a Super Bowl run. So
you stop, I mean, we saw it right next door
a couple of years ago. You really stop thinking about
what things cost when you need to add players to
get you through those little glass layers of contention as
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November ends, December begins in January as well. That's the point,
like get as high of a return on those guys
as you can, and certainly that I see why the
Colts gave that much for Sauce Gardner really because of this,
because they believe that he is a right put.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Cowboys, on the other hand, are three five.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And one with a struggling secondary and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Ensure they'll hope that they can get into Super Bowl
contention next year. But that's just it's just a hope
and there's not much reason to think about. I did
want to kind of point out though the sauce trade
is risky. Like two first, for a cornerback who is
coming off a year that was pretty poor I would
say a year ago, and this year he has some
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good numbers like next in stats, notice his his tight
window forced rate is really high, like the highest in
the league in terms of like when you know passes
are coming into coverage. Now a lot of those have
been completed, but he's been in tight coverage. He does
travel with like the opposing one. The talent is obviously there,
but it I do often think about, like, cornerbacks are
impossible to like evaluate, there's so much variance. They're they're
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like the Colleen Wolf of of of you know position, Now,
what do you mean not?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Please go all no Colleen Wolf shows up here and she's,
you know, hitting a home run every time. Cornerbacks, you
don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know. I
just when I'm searching for words, I like to just
I just.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Think I'll help you out here, Greg.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I just think that if they don't, if the Cowboys
don't make the playoffs, which it's dicey right now, they're three,
five and one. If they don't make the playoffs, then
they're sacrificing these long term assets without even making the postseason.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So it's kind of like a huge gamble.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, but I don't even care about this season if
I'm the Cowboys. I mean I care obviously, like everyone
cares about things, but like I don't if I'm them,
I don't. I'm not even looking at this move in
the vacuum of this year. I've already seen enough. This
defense is gonna let you down, Like there's no there.
They are in such a hole in the NFC at
this point that yes, they could still get into a
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couple of shootouts, and certainly it's not all is not lost.
And you know three win teams have made the postseason before,
but it's November, like it's getting too late, and so
this move, like I said, I just think this is
totally made to regather yourself, admit where you're at, and
then really look ahead at twenty twenty six is the
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year you may make try to make a run.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If it's for twenty twenty six, Like, why wouldn't they
have gotten more in the trade in terms of resources.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, Well, because this to Jordan's point early, and it's
a great one. It's like this is when I think
you get the most for Quinn william I mean if
you're the Jets, but I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
They won't pay their players or one of that they'll
trade for them a right.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
One of the things that the things that I thought
about here too is like when you're when I'm adding
up all these you know what the Cowboys got with
the Jets on your got what the Packers got, Like,
here's what the Cowboys didn't get Quinn and Williams for
the last nine weeks, you know. And I think that's
part of it too, And that gets to my point
about they're just making up as they go along, like
Quinn and Williams. They lost that half season of Quinn Williams.
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But I do think the ages are important because the
Colts are looking at this at like, yeah, we're sacrificing
these draft picks. That is gonna hurt our team building
process overall. But Sas Gardner is a young player that
is not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I just think it literally is as simple as this.
You're almost saying the same thing as me, But I
think it's literally just as simple as this. The Coults
are in truly win now mode, like not just they
think they are. They are in win now mode, So
they're going to pay a higher price for a player
they think can help them win a Super Bowl. Sat
Packers did the same thing, but they didn't pay as
high a price. This is not creeping up to the
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trade deadline. Nobody really knew what they were going to
look like, even though they're a very good team. Clearly
we're seeing the fallout of that now. The Cowboys on
the other side, understand they are not a win now
team right now, but they have a win now offense
that probably will not regress much in twenty twenty six.
So they're paying for twenty twenty six, and they're paying
twenty twenty six money to twenty twenty six, if that
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makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Sure, I think ultimately it's also just I just don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
They're like floating at the breeze, like plant not plan.
I think they're legitimately planning for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, maybe I have.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean I believe they're they're GM like or who
sort of acts as a GM. Will Will McClay right,
like he's he's doing the best that he can with
the orders that that he's got. But I think I
think it's chaotic, and I do think it's a show
of faith in Daniel Jones and Aaron Glenn. I ultimately
think that the Jets are saying, like we're gonna we're
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gonna understand that you're gonna keep losing Aaron Glenn and
Darren Mugy their GM and like we're gonna stay with
you because it would be insane to be like firing
your head coach after doing something like this. And I
do think it's the cult saying, yeah, we got a
bargain with Daniel Jones right now, we are gonna pay
him so much money because none of this makes any
sense unless Daniel Jones is making all that money next
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year as a member of the Colts. Pretty crazy and
a badass. Secondary. By the way, when Charvarius Ward gets back,
it'll be Charvarius Ward, Kenny Moore and Sas Gardner. Let's
take a quick break and then we'll come back and
we'll finish up the other trades from a big trade deadline.
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Speaker 4 (23:02):
But we have some fun ones.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You can't only talk about the Jets and and all
their draft picks. I was thinking, like, okay, they had
a bunch of draft picks, like a few years ago.
They once had four first round draft picks. That was
in two thousand. That was the famous that the infamous
Kyle Brady draft. John Gruden and Mike Mayock once had
three first round picks.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
That it did not work out.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
That was the offensive lineman, right, but they took.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That was that was one of them. Yes, yeah, there
were there were still playing Cleveland. Ferrell didn't work out.
So sometimes you know, what's in the mystery box is
not as good. But I'm hoping that they can turn
it around. Let's talk about some other moves that happened
on Tuesday. Was excited for this one. Rashid Shahed to
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the Seahawks for a fourth and fifth round pick. The
Saints made a couple moves. They also traded Trevor Penning
to the Chargers, but this Shahed move seems like I
could really have an impact impact in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean, I love that they did this, and it
sounded like based on some reporting that they were scouring
the receiver market just to try to see I just
think this is probably was probably their A plus plan
because of his connections with Clint Kubiak from back with
Kubiak was the Saints offensive coordinator. I love this not
just for the passing game because like, good luck to
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you picking which player you would like to tilt your
coverage toward and godspeed, but also they can truly stay
in a lot of their twelve personnel like they want
to because you've got two true burner receivers who can
exploit so many different intermediate and long layers of the
passing game and they can stay just as explosive. But
I think this helps open up their run game, which
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I love because if more defenders are accounting for multiple
receivers who can hurt you deep on the field, that
means they're going to have less of those defenders in
the box. Stopping the run, and they have struggled with
running against medium or even heavier boxes. They're not seeing
it's on a lot boxes so far this year, so
I think it helps them become a much more complete
team and they can stay in their preferred heavy personnels
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but still have that lightning speed threat on the perimeter
and all across the middle of the field because these
guys can run a lot of different types of combinations.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, and now it'll be a much quicker integration I
think into the offense yea because of Quint Kobiac being there.
It gives Sam Darnold another deep threat in this offense,
and it comes at a perfect time while some of
these Seattle Seahawks receivers are dealing with injuries, like Cooper Cup.
He's also an All Pro returner, so this could help
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out their special teams as well.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Seattle. I love it for this offense and.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
For Greg your team, who you said weeks and weeks
ago was the best in the NFC potentially, and now
I feel like after a primetime game, people are on
board with this more and more.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It is such a strange place to be because the
NFC is so loaded, so it's like you would still
take the field certainly over the Seahawks. Heck, like the
NFC West is so loaded that we don't know by
any means that they're gonna win their division. It's awesome
that the Seahawks and Rams still have two games left
against each other, and just it just feels like six
of the best eight or nine teams in the NFL
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are in the NFC. So nothing's guaranteed. But I don't
think the price was too big a fourth and a fifth.
I think it was fair for both sides. Actually give
the Saints some credit for getting a pretty fair value.
I think for a guy that they probably weren't going
to resign, I just don't know why you weren't resigning him,
because up until this year he was like a guy
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averaging sixteen seventeen yards per catch and just has incredible
speed that you can't really find anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, by the way, yet another reason you're talking about
the depth and the how loaded the NFC has yet
another reason why the Cowboys decided to look honestly at
themselves and work toward twenty twenty six and actually admit
the truth. Yeah, this is my favorite trade of the
entire day.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I love the fact that we are going to see
a couple of these teams, the Rams included and the
Seahawks reach their fullest form, like exactly the right time,
barring any sort of crazy circumstantial changes with injuries. And
I like that. It's it's like like explaining your faith
in Sam Darnold because you're giving him more weapons. It
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is helping out JSN because you know that once you
get to the playoffs, it's going to be total matchup
football and defenses are going to try to figure out
how to game plan your best player out of that game,
so then hit him with another guy. Like I just
I loved this, and I like it for the Saints
because again, like you said, they got decent value out
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
We still don't know what they're getting for Trevor Penning,
who was famously a h surprise first round pick that
they traded extra picks up for and did not work out,
very similar to how Mickey Loomis traded up to first
for Marcus.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That probably want to get released like overnight, just like
slipped into the mix. You know, it came in right
under the wire. It was the last trade of the day.
It's probably trying to hide it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's probably not a ton and uh we talked about
it me and shook On on Monday night too, Like,
will the Chargers try to do something to help that
offensive line after losing Joe Alt so that that makes
sense on that perspective, I do wonder, you know, Cooper
Cup is not a long term answer for the Seahawks.
I'd be surprised if he was on the roster next season.
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They do have an out in that contract. I don't
think it's been like a great fit, and I think
he'll just play less now because if they're in that
twelve personnel, you know, he's not going to be on
the field all the time. And that's that's not the
worst thing he could give you more maybe playing twenty
thirty snaps. Tory Horton looked pretty good for the other day.
Like Seahawks, they're rolling seas. Jacoby Myers went to the
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Jaguars for two mid round picks, a fourth and a six,
And I just want to congratulate Jacoby Myers because I
feel like no one else wanted to get traded more
than Jacoby Myers, kind of like Devanta Adams last year.
Hopefully this works out better for Jacoby Myers than DeVante
Adams and his time with the Jets a year ago.
But even then I think he was just still happy
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to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, and it fills an immediate need for the Jags
with Why am I blanking Ravis Hunter? I wanted to
call him Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Obviously that's the quarterback, but it's the commercials, which right now,
they took a big gamble in the first place doing
all the Trevor Lawrence Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, that's what it is exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It's a great commercial, but it was a risk and yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, so obviously this will help out. And it's not
like Travis Hunter was giving them a whole lot at
the wide receiver position because they kept switching him back
and forth between a couple snaps here on defense, a
couple snaps here on offense. I just don't know if
that is going to work for him going forward. Maybe
next year everything will slow down a little bit more.
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He can he can contribute a little bit more. But
when I was doing the international game that they were on,
Gerald McCoy was just talking about Travis Hunter and how
he really believed that he should only be playing defense
on the defensive side of the ball, and then here
and there having like a couple fun little packages for
him on offense.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
But I like that Jacoby Myers now will be there.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He's a wide receiver that will be able to help
Trevor Lawrence now that Travis Hunter is not out there.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And Deanmi Brown also got hurt in that game last week,
like that could have been part of it. Parker Washington
was their clear number one. Brian Thomas Junior got a
little banged up in that game. Don't know if it
was serious. Ian Rappaport does say though Travis Hunter will
be back this season, probably pretty soon after he's eligible
to get off IR which is three more weeks, and
that it'll still be playing wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Can I put my Galaxy brain head on for one?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Please?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Do you need help with its heavy it's so heavy.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Rain.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I don't know how your next supports the.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So I think that this is a move not just
to give them a little help production help in the
short term. I also think this is a move that
sets in motion a more cohesive plan for Travis Hunter
and this passing game in the long term after he
is back from this injury, because if you bring in
Jacoby Myers, one of the things that that tells me
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is you would like to have a Chris Godwin like
player in the slot, which Travis Hunter can be, which
Liam Cohen is trying to turn a passing volume and
dictating his passing game through that player. And I do
believe they think that player can be Travis Hunter, and
so then you can have your perimeter threat still in
Jacoby Myers. And it has been really weird with Brian
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Thomas Junior, whether it's they're running him in concepts he's
clearly not comfortable with or he's taking a step back,
and then there's like weird trade rumors circulating about him
that the team is like super quick to shut down,
but like still reports surfacing about well we'll take a call.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know, didn't happen in the end, but yeah, it
sounds like they were listening if someone wanted to give
them a so Sauce Gardner type offer.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'm just saying I think that not only is this
like a Okay, we need to keep producing as an
offense in the short term, but we also need to
have a much better plan overall and reset what we
want to do in the passing game, and whether it
is the reverse of what I said, where you're seeing
Jacoby a little bit more inside and Trevor Travis Hunter.
I just did it, Travis Hunter on the perimeter. Just
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one of these players has to be the volume inside guy.
That's what Liam Collin wants to do. We've seen it
work and so that's where I think this actually resets
their passing layers in a big way. And I just
don't think we're talking about it yet, and maybe we
will be after Travis Hunter gets back.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah. I don't know, though.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Take this off.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
It does you're here here, It does like a little
all right, got it?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Got it all Like there's a lot of repeating, maybe
duplicative skill sets. I mean, Hunter and Jacoby Myers are different,
but Jacoby Myers is a predominantly slot player throughout his career,
and he plays plenty on the outside too, but most
of his snaps are in the slot. And Parker Washington
was outstanding in the preseason and last week. It's kind
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of a predominant slot type of player. Deanmy Brown is hurt.
I think that maybe we'll find out as a bigger
part of it, But Jacoby Myers just a good player.
The interesting thing to me and keep an eye out. Yeah,
well we'll wrap here is like Shaheed and Myers are
both on the last year of their contracts, so it's
kind of tryout period for both of them. Because if
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you're going to give up two mid round picks, sure
it would help if they help you in a playoff
run now, but you would love that to be like
a long, long term thing, and I think Shaheed would
have a better chance for it to be a long
term thing. But who knows, Maybe maybe Jacoby Myers ends
up like re signing with the Jaguars or something long
term they want.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
They want to Chris Godwin, one of Mike Evans. However,
it shakes out one or two. I believe one of
those players is Travis Hunter and the other one is
going to be Jacobe Myers after Travis Hunter gets back. However,
whichever position it shakes out being slot for what's.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Brian Thomas Junior, Then he's Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I figured out man Emica Buca. He's Emicaua had a
step back though he took from last season. It's hard
when a new coaching staff comes in and it just
doesn't seem quite congruous to me yet. And it's I
don't know that it's anyone's fault, particularly I certainly don't
want to bury the player. He's so talented, he really
is so talented. But it's like Patrick clayboun noticed it
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early in the season. They're sending him on all these
inbreakers that he doesn't feel comfortable with. Then he's running
some inbreakers, some outbreakers. Trevor Lawrence, I almost did it again.
Trevor Lawrence is only targeting him on outbreaking routes like
his His heat chart for passing is crazy in terms
of where Brian Thomas Junior is running and the only
times he will throw him the ball. So I'm just
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saying there's there's something going on that just is not
quite matching. Yet it gets resolved, But you don't make
a move like this just because people are in your crabit.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Hunter is to.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Trevor Lawrence as Sam Darnold is to Sam.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Bradfirst, right, all right, right, I've got there.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Gets the Jacoby Myers just like a just a comfortable
pair of shoes, you know what I mean, Like you
know what you're gonna get, And I have this feeling
that he's some aged receiver because it was crazy that
the Patriots let him walk that contract age so well,
he only got thirty three million dollars over three years,
and they wouldn't even pay him that much or thirty
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nine million dollars over three years. He's only twenty eight
years old, so Jacoby Myers still I think has two
or three more good years. But like Shaheed in Seattle,
they'll have decisions to make pretty soon. They'll get a
little time to test drive it another couple minor deals
before we say goodbye. I should have mentioned with the
Cowboys they also picked up Logan Wilson for a seventh
which is funny that they just gave up a pick
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for Logan Wilson, a guy who you know couldn't get
on the field for the Bengals, but he probably will
help that Cowboys linebacker group, which is not great. And
then a l golden Yes and their their defense for
what it's worth. You know, they benched them and started
playing two rookies. They've somehow gotten even worse since they
benched them. And I always feel bad for Logan Wilson
because I'll always just remember that holding Callie had that
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kind of swung the Super Bowl that was maybe not
a holding calls they called it totally forgot about pretty tight.
I mean the Rams would have had a couple more
plays at the goal line, but you know, if they
didn't call it, who knows, Joe tryan shank also to
the Bears for a late round pick swap. So that's
it for our trade deadline the Cold are going for.
(36:41):
I feel satisfied, so alive. How do you feel, by
the way, as an Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Call it a live line?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Am I right? Hey?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
How do you feel as an Eagles fan? To me
that Jalen Phillips trade was not as big as these
Jets trade, but just as big or bigger than the
Rashid Jaheed and Jacobe Myers moves. You get a real
deal young.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Prush, best pass rusher at the deadline. And so of
course Howie Roseman was like, Ring Ring, let me grab him,
and I'm gonna also help out my secondary as well.
I love the move. It's aggressive and that's what Howie style.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm wondering who's gonna get cut there that someone can't
make that team because they're adding Brandon Graham too to
the mix, they're adding Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So the next they only had fifty one roster spots.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Though, right they did clear some room in terms of space.
Jalx Hunt is like is there? I mean an Olan
Smith is there, but he's not on the active roster
right now. It's just they got They got a lot
of players. They got a lot of cornerbacks.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Michael Carter, they brought in, Jaya Alexander they brought in Also,
they earlier in the year, Tank Bigsby they brought in
Uh Like this is you.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Don't have to wait to the deadline to make the moves.
But I'm glad that some teams did, so good luck
to the Jets. We'll be talking about you a lot
in the upcoming march in April twenty. What else is
six and seven Cowboys will be talking about you a
little less than we expected.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I will fight the good fight.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
That's right. You were so high on the Cowboys in
the off season.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I thought, well, that was before Michael Parsons got traded.
But yes, I did take them over eight wins this year,
and I guess Quinn Williams gives it, gives us a chance.
I'll tell you who's not given up on Greg. Yeah,
Jerry Jones is not giving up on twenty twenty five.
It's my point, the eternal off to this. All right,
we will come back for the awards on Wednesday morning. Yeah,
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so tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We'll also do our t NF preview. Yes, you'll you'll
see that show in the feed. Pre season, MVP all
the rest will be wearing the same stuff. We will
see that
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a deadline. I'm
Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. Trade
Deadline is over. I'm with Jordan Rodrieg and I'm with
Colleen Wolf. Heyo, we got to see you next Tuesday.
Crew back for the first time in a minute on
one of the biggest Tuesdays on the NFL Challenge Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It is and on you know America's calendar, because it
is election day as well.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Get out to the Tuesday all around at Steve.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Mariucci's birthday, Happy Birthday, the mooch.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Look, I already voted. I pre voted, and I put
it in the envelope and then I went for a
short run and put it into the closest voter box
because I love a functional run. Let's talk trades. This
is right after the you know how, like very often
on these types of shows, do you need that my
note card?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
One?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Flying Jordan does a like it. They're in the middle
of the table.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like, oh, you know, we really build kind of
bothering me. We really build up the trade deadline to
be such a big deal and then it doesn't end
up being that big of a deal false, And you
know what happened to be this year a big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This is the opposite of how I treat my writing
deadlines like they don't really exist. This was actually exists.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was a huge deal. I do love deadlines.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I only work with a deadline. There's I can't work
unless I have a deadline.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Apparently the New York Jets, who I do feel like,
has been have been a subject on a lot of Tuesdays.
We were here for the Robert Sala firing, we were
here for some other assorted last year events, and now
we're talking about a complete restructuring of who we thought
the Jets were, but more important, who we thought the
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Indianapolis Colts were. Let's start with the sauce Gardner trade,
because that was the most rising, that was the biggest.
We'll get to Quinn Williams and everything else that happened today,
but Sauce Gardner is an Indianapolis Colt. Love it. The
Jets receive twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven first
round picks from the Colts and ad Mitchell, which feels
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just like a little throwing But I actually think that's
a nice little part of the deal. For the Jets.
We'll get to the Jets side of things, but I
do think it's for the twenty twenty five season more
interesting that your Colts are going all in in a
way that probably surprises the outside universe, but I think
actually makes a lot of sense when you think about
(02:41):
how their team is structured. As a not so secret
Colts believer, Colleen, how did this trade make you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I've well, first of all, I love that you're calling
them my Colts, because this was the one year that
I was like, all right, I'm not going to do it,
not to do this, but I do you know think Mae.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Connie Bowl is on the table here? Eagles?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh my god, can you imagine? Okay, First of all,
this is such.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
A departure from how Chris Ballard the Colts GM usually operates.
He's pretty conservative, he loves the draft and develops strategy.
So the fact that he traded like this for such
a splashy player, and there was so much given away
as well in it was just sort of a little
bit of a surprise, a lot a bit of a surprise.
(03:27):
But it also just goes to show how confident this
regime is in the current roster that it's not a
blip for them that they are all in, and I
love the move for them.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's the epitome of aggression right down to the player himself,
and certainly with how Sauce Gardner has been playing and
just some of the vibes in New York just continued losing,
getting sort of that stink out and really going to
a place that is on a roll really other than
a little blip last week. And he's an aggressive player.
He allows them to mix their coverages. He wants to
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play man coverage, he wants to make plays on the
ball on a rumo in his renaissance. Yeah, Big Glue
is having Uh. He's a perfect player for him because
he can do a lot of different things and he
can be as aggressive as as he wants, especially with
a front that's playing well and a pass rush that's
playing well. You can really compliment that with a player
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like sas Gardner. And I want to say too, the
aggression that you noted, Colleen, I think is so important
because there were some real, I guess like come to
Jesus conversations that have happened within that building. It's real
understanding where their roster was at and where they had
sort of carried themselves down the decision making process knowing
they had a good roster and this a really continuous
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group between Ed Dodds, Kevin Rogers and John Shaw, all
those guys in scouting and pro personnel and player personnel
they have. They had to really say, really, where is
our roster at and plug in the right quarterback and
make an egoist decision to move on from a perceived
mistake at that time and then really understand where they're
at as a team in of making a real, real
(05:01):
contention push. Making a move like this is a real
contention push.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, that's the thing. It didn't make sense because Daniel
Jones their quarterback. But they were among the biggest win
now teams in the league. And that's when I was
making the mia culpa about being so wrong about this
Colts team. That is one thing that you could have
seen that they have incredible continuity. They have a lot
of guys in their primes when you think about Michael
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Pittman and Pierce and their offensive line for the most
part and downs and everything, and then they also have
like some players that aren't going to be around that
much longer, like Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner have been
around forever, Sire Franklin and Kenny Moore, like they're at
the point of their careers where it's like, okay, it's
year to year, and most of these guys have been
in this system on both sides of the ball in
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terms of the offensive system has been there, and then
the players have been there on the defensive side. And
you get lou An Arumo and he was such an
important part of it, and you think, okay, cornerback is
very unpredictable, and the Colts and the Jets would probably
say sas Gardner over the last year and a half
has not been as good as he was the previous
two years. But you do get a coordinator in lou
(06:08):
Anarumo that you feel like can maximize everything that sas
Gardner does. So I think that's a big part of
that is like faith in lou in addition to faith
in sas Gardner, whose contract extension that he just signed
in July literally hasn't even started.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Part ye part you'd like the Jets obviously were not
planning on trade at him if they gave him this
contract in the offseason, and it's just such a huge
fire sale for them, like they are now just in
full rebuild. To trade him and Quinnin Williams, like these
two players together just shows you that they're ready to
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implode the whole operation at this point.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I can't remember Race Hall. I was gonna say, I
can't remember a team like doing this quite as aggressively
in recent memory. Because to go over the picks they
have now, they have three firsts in twenty twenty seven,
and they're not like you know, the NBA, sometimes you
get it first and it's like it's like the Thunders first.
It's like that's the twenty ninth pick in the draft.
They have their own first, the Cowboys first, and the
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Colts first, like that could be pretty good in twenty
twenty seven. You don't know what the Colts are going
to be, like you we don't know what the Cowboys
are going to be like. They also have two first
this year, you know, in twenty six in the next draft,
and two seconds, so they only had two top one
hundred picks actually before this trade happened, so that was weird.
They are a team though, that has done this before.
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They actually had three first round picks in twenty twenty two.
That's how they got some of these players. And it
doesn't didn't necessarily go well, but they are loaded up
in terms of picks. So I even though I was
smarmy kind of thinking like, wow, they could even get
good players like Quentinn Williams and Sauce Gardner maybe if
they're lucky with these picks, I actually don't hate it
for the Jets. I think it makes sense for both sides,
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especially in this sauce Gardner deal.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think this is totally allowed to be a win
win trade. Yeah, honestly because for all parties involved, because
it's great for the Cowboys to get a player of
Quinn Williams caliber. And I know we're going to get
to that particular move in a minute, but in speaking
of the Jets specifically, I think it is so refreshing
when a team actually admits that they have to commit
to a rebuild before the trade deadline of that same
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season happens, because the draft. You need to recoup some
of that AMMO ahead of that Springs draft. If you're
really going to be aggressive about where you're at and
be very honest about where you're at as a roster
and the way that it's constructed. And I think that
that you have a new set of talent evaluators in
under Darren Muji and a new regime and a new
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head coach, and so you're going to start installing your
players with those picks and we'll see if it works
out for him obviously short term and long term. But
in terms of understanding what you are first of all,
which I think the Colts are doing really really well.
On the other side, understanding which you are not, which
I don't really think the Jets moved this preseason and
start of the regular season like they were really realistic
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about who they actually were. They they are trying to
push it. Well, I think all of us were kind of,
like I said it myself, I was like, I kind
of am in on the Jets with what they're doing. Well,
they just weren't that team. They didn't really have that.
They didn't ultimately have the answer at quarterback. They certainly
did not have the answer on the on defense. They
certainly need to make some moves additionally to what they
already have on offense, all on every phase. And so
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I think admitting that before the trade deadline, the Bengals,
for example, are not admitting this before trade deadlines. Other
teams that are not contenders and need to rebuild in
a big way or at least fully rebuild one side
of the ball, Like I find it refreshing that they've
done this.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I was talking about this with Daniel Jeremiah. We have
a move the sticks. We not move the sticks?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Wow, it are you James Irwin and Pat Miller?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Pat Miller and Crime.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm not trying their social.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm not trying to get on that podcast. We have
a Forties and Free Agents coming out later this week.
We were talking about this off air and it's just
like building around defense. It is tough. It's very much
the Bill Polian method from twenty years ago. But I
totally agree with that. Offense is more consistent, and I
think if you're going to invest like most of your
resources on defense, the path is way thinner. And that's
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where the Jets were at. They were with this Robert
solid defense. The defense was great under Robert Salad. These
were two of the best players, and I think it
had really soured. You heard from Connor Hughes, A s
and Y. I've heard this separately that like Quinn Williams
seem like the happiest guy ever, and at one point
and he was kind of done, can.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You be I'm so so excited that we get to
see Quinn and Williams smile again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, this is so great. All right, let's let's go
over that. I still think we should have a few
things on the sauce. But let's talk about exactly what
they got for Quinn Williams. So the Cowboys get Quinn
Williams the Cowboys. It's just outrageous. And they get a
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twenty twenty evan first round pick from the Cowboys, and
it'll either be the Cowboys first round pick or the
Packers first round pick, whichever is higher, which to me
is a great little wrinkle. It's a great little NBA
wrinkle and a nice piece of business by the Jets
to cover themselves there. They also get a twenty twenty
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six second round pick, and they also get Mozzy Smith
thrown in the deal. So, if you really want to
have your brain broken, here's the Michael Parsons trade. Like
that's it, big picture here, it is. They essentially traded
away Micah Parsons and Mazzy Smith for Quinn Williams and
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Kenny Clark and a move up like twenty spots to
the back end of the first round of the draft,
which is not that much in my opinion. I know
it's a lot to consider, but we'll consider this one
like on its own. What do you think about the
Cowboys getting Quinn Williams.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think that it immediately addresses their run defense, which
is helpful for them. Obviously he's really good in the
middle of the field there.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
But I just feel like this trade kind.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of shows that obviously Jerry Jones is maybe regretful of
moving Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons who potentially wins Defensive Player
of the Year, and all of their defensive struggles stem
from that move specifically, So now he's trying to go
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back all in since I mean, even before last night,
before last night, the narrative of the Cowboys was their
offense is so good, their defense is not holding up
this end of the bargain. And then last night, I mean,
you saw what the Cardinals were able to do. Their
defense was a disaster the Dallas Cowboys. So I like
the move, and I'm happy for Quinn Williams, but I
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just feel like Ultimately, the Cowboys should have never traded
away Michael Parsons in the first place.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think it's it's coming to terms with the fact
that you can't put the lid back on the pot,
right right, And maybe I said that in a little
Jerry jonesy way. I can't put the lid back on
the pot.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I don't know toothpaste back.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
If he's more about like glory hole, I was going
to say, wow and trying to do something with mosquitos.
He's always talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Right, glory hole.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, So I feel like this is actually him and
the team itself understanding like what's done is done.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
You have to plan.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
For the future here. I do like that the Cowboys
still have their twenty twenty six first round picks.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I also like that this offense is clearly an elite group,
to the point where if we are even at a
looking at a medium level defense, you're talking about a
for sure playoff contender, maybe even a team that can
make a run. Now we're not talking about that, We're
talking about an offense that they are clearly hoping is
going to continue to be play at this caliber. Maybe
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regress a little bit, but probably not a ton because
of all of the guys that they have in some
of the young guys especially have upfront, can still play
at this caliber. Quinn Williams is only twenty seven years old,
he'll be twenty eight next year. When I do think
that they're going that they think their defense will be
ready to match the level of the offense. So I
just think this is obviously a little late of a
move for this season, but it's also sort of a
coming to terms with what you did first of all,
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and what now you have to do next in order
to get this group as competitive as it needs to be,
seeing how far beyond and above schedule your offense is
and where your defense at least needs to hit the
floor of in order to have a more compliment menory group.
That's twenty twenty six to me, and it's good that
they have those picks because if you draft well in
a couple key spots on defense, you can play those
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guys right away. You're not inserting them into a complicated
series of passing layers. You're not asking you a rookie
running back run to pass block for you. You're not
asking an offensive lineman to be really good right away. No,
you're plugging in defensive players who grow as the season continues,
with some weight bearing walls, and quinnin Williams is certainly
one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But that's also to your point about looking ahead to
the draft, seeing how Quinn Williams affects the defense, and
then being able to plan ahead.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, now what do we need to do point our
draft strategy?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I love Quinn Williams. But they didn't get any
extra picks in the end. I mean, that's crazy. They
traded away Michael Parsons and they don't have any extra picks.
They just like moved up twenty Essentially, they moved up
from the Jets you know, second round or their second
round pick to the Packers' first round pick whatever ends
up that being. Let's right now, it would be about
twenty picks.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And I'm not saying the logistics or their return on
the trade is necessarily great. I'm just saying I can
see what their process was after they realized that there's
no turning back or getting there.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The process is like is make it up as you
go along, and a lot of it I think is emotional.
I mean, Jerry Jones even talked about on Monday how
annoyed he was about Michael Parsons lying down on that
trainer's table, which is, by the way, good move by
Michael Parsons. It really sounded like that was kind of
the last thing he was just like, would Michael Irvin
have ever done that? Would Deon Sanders have ever done that?
And it's like they're having to answer for a boss
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that's like, go go get me someone.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think Quinn Williams is great. He is three years
older if we're kind of comparing him and Sauce, but
I think he's probably a safer overall long term. Bet.
I just think when you look at these three trades
in general, when you're talking about the Michael Parsons, it's
kind of crazy to me that Sauce Gardner went for
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the same price as Michael Parsons. Essentially, I would argue
because I like it. I'd rather have Adi Mitchell maybe
on his money than Kenny Clark. Like Sauce Gardner costs more,
but essentially Sas Gardner and Michael Parsons cost about the same,
Michael Parsons and Quinn Williams were pretty close to the same,
and that a miss evaluation of Michael Parsons and Cowboys
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fans would be like, well that's in the past. Now
we're just talking about the president. Well it's all it's
all together, you know, you have to evaluate it all together.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And I do want to say a couple of these
teams of Packers specifically and the Colts, they are they
do share a very similar quality, which is that they
believe they're going to make a Super Bowl run. So
you stop, I mean, we saw it right next door
a couple of years ago. You really stop thinking about
what things cost when you need to add players to
get you through those little glass layers of contention as
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November ends, December begins in January as well. That's the point,
like get as high of a return on those guys
as you can, and certainly that I see why the
Colts gave that much for Sauce Gardner really because of this,
because they believe that he is a right put.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Cowboys, on the other hand, are three five.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And one with a struggling secondary and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Ensure they'll hope that they can get into Super Bowl
contention next year. But that's just it's just a hope
and there's not much reason to think about. I did
want to kind of point out though the sauce trade
is risky. Like two first, for a cornerback who is
coming off a year that was pretty poor I would
say a year ago, and this year he has some
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good numbers like next in stats, notice his his tight
window forced rate is really high, like the highest in
the league in terms of like when you know passes
are coming into coverage. Now a lot of those have
been completed, but he's been in tight coverage. He does
travel with like the opposing one. The talent is obviously there,
but it I do often think about, like, cornerbacks are
impossible to like evaluate, there's so much variance. They're they're
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like the Colleen Wolf of of of you know position, Now,
what do you mean not?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Please go all no Colleen Wolf shows up here and she's,
you know, hitting a home run every time. Cornerbacks, you
don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know. I
just when I'm searching for words, I like to just
I just.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Think I'll help you out here, Greg.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I just think that if they don't, if the Cowboys
don't make the playoffs, which it's dicey right now, they're three,
five and one. If they don't make the playoffs, then
they're sacrificing these long term assets without even making the postseason.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So it's kind of like a huge gamble.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, but I don't even care about this season if
I'm the Cowboys. I mean I care obviously, like everyone
cares about things, but like I don't if I'm them,
I don't. I'm not even looking at this move in
the vacuum of this year. I've already seen enough. This
defense is gonna let you down, Like there's no there.
They are in such a hole in the NFC at
this point that yes, they could still get into a
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couple of shootouts, and certainly it's not all is not lost.
And you know three win teams have made the postseason before,
but it's November, like it's getting too late, and so
this move, like I said, I just think this is
totally made to regather yourself, admit where you're at, and
then really look ahead at twenty twenty six is the
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year you may make try to make a run.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If it's for twenty twenty six, Like, why wouldn't they
have gotten more in the trade in terms of resources.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, Well, because this to Jordan's point early, and it's
a great one. It's like this is when I think
you get the most for Quinn william I mean if
you're the Jets, but I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
They won't pay their players or one of that they'll
trade for them a right.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
One of the things that the things that I thought
about here too is like when you're when I'm adding
up all these you know what the Cowboys got with
the Jets on your got what the Packers got, Like,
here's what the Cowboys didn't get Quinn and Williams for
the last nine weeks, you know. And I think that's
part of it too, And that gets to my point
about they're just making up as they go along, like
Quinn and Williams. They lost that half season of Quinn Williams.
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But I do think the ages are important because the
Colts are looking at this at like, yeah, we're sacrificing
these draft picks. That is gonna hurt our team building
process overall. But Sas Gardner is a young player that
is not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I just think it literally is as simple as this.
You're almost saying the same thing as me, But I
think it's literally just as simple as this. The Coults
are in truly win now mode, like not just they
think they are. They are in win now mode, So
they're going to pay a higher price for a player
they think can help them win a Super Bowl. Sat
Packers did the same thing, but they didn't pay as
high a price. This is not creeping up to the
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trade deadline. Nobody really knew what they were going to
look like, even though they're a very good team. Clearly
we're seeing the fallout of that now. The Cowboys on
the other side, understand they are not a win now
team right now, but they have a win now offense
that probably will not regress much in twenty twenty six.
So they're paying for twenty twenty six, and they're paying
twenty twenty six money to twenty twenty six, if that
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makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Sure, I think ultimately it's also just I just don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
They're like floating at the breeze, like plant not plan.
I think they're legitimately planning for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, maybe I have.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean I believe they're they're GM like or who
sort of acts as a GM. Will Will McClay right,
like he's he's doing the best that he can with
the orders that that he's got. But I think I
think it's chaotic, and I do think it's a show
of faith in Daniel Jones and Aaron Glenn. I ultimately
think that the Jets are saying, like we're gonna we're
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gonna understand that you're gonna keep losing Aaron Glenn and
Darren Mugy their GM and like we're gonna stay with
you because it would be insane to be like firing
your head coach after doing something like this. And I
do think it's the cult saying, yeah, we got a
bargain with Daniel Jones right now, we are gonna pay
him so much money because none of this makes any
sense unless Daniel Jones is making all that money next
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year as a member of the Colts. Pretty crazy and
a badass. Secondary. By the way, when Charvarius Ward gets back,
it'll be Charvarius Ward, Kenny Moore and Sas Gardner. Let's
take a quick break and then we'll come back and
we'll finish up the other trades from a big trade deadline.
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Speaker 4 (23:02):
But we have some fun ones.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You can't only talk about the Jets and and all
their draft picks. I was thinking, like, okay, they had
a bunch of draft picks, like a few years ago.
They once had four first round draft picks. That was
in two thousand. That was the famous that the infamous
Kyle Brady draft. John Gruden and Mike Mayock once had
three first round picks.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
That it did not work out.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
That was the offensive lineman, right, but they took.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That was that was one of them. Yes, yeah, there
were there were still playing Cleveland. Ferrell didn't work out.
So sometimes you know, what's in the mystery box is
not as good. But I'm hoping that they can turn
it around. Let's talk about some other moves that happened
on Tuesday. Was excited for this one. Rashid Shahed to
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the Seahawks for a fourth and fifth round pick. The
Saints made a couple moves. They also traded Trevor Penning
to the Chargers, but this Shahed move seems like I
could really have an impact impact in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean, I love that they did this, and it
sounded like based on some reporting that they were scouring
the receiver market just to try to see I just
think this is probably was probably their A plus plan
because of his connections with Clint Kubiak from back with
Kubiak was the Saints offensive coordinator. I love this not
just for the passing game because like, good luck to
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you picking which player you would like to tilt your
coverage toward and godspeed, but also they can truly stay
in a lot of their twelve personnel like they want
to because you've got two true burner receivers who can
exploit so many different intermediate and long layers of the
passing game and they can stay just as explosive. But
I think this helps open up their run game, which
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I love because if more defenders are accounting for multiple
receivers who can hurt you deep on the field, that
means they're going to have less of those defenders in
the box. Stopping the run, and they have struggled with
running against medium or even heavier boxes. They're not seeing
it's on a lot boxes so far this year, so
I think it helps them become a much more complete
team and they can stay in their preferred heavy personnels
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but still have that lightning speed threat on the perimeter
and all across the middle of the field because these
guys can run a lot of different types of combinations.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, and now it'll be a much quicker integration I
think into the offense yea because of Quint Kobiac being there.
It gives Sam Darnold another deep threat in this offense,
and it comes at a perfect time while some of
these Seattle Seahawks receivers are dealing with injuries, like Cooper Cup.
He's also an All Pro returner, so this could help
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out their special teams as well.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Seattle. I love it for this offense and.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
For Greg your team, who you said weeks and weeks
ago was the best in the NFC potentially, and now
I feel like after a primetime game, people are on
board with this more and more.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It is such a strange place to be because the
NFC is so loaded, so it's like you would still
take the field certainly over the Seahawks. Heck, like the
NFC West is so loaded that we don't know by
any means that they're gonna win their division. It's awesome
that the Seahawks and Rams still have two games left
against each other, and just it just feels like six
of the best eight or nine teams in the NFL
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are in the NFC. So nothing's guaranteed. But I don't
think the price was too big a fourth and a fifth.
I think it was fair for both sides. Actually give
the Saints some credit for getting a pretty fair value.
I think for a guy that they probably weren't going
to resign, I just don't know why you weren't resigning him,
because up until this year he was like a guy
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averaging sixteen seventeen yards per catch and just has incredible
speed that you can't really find anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, by the way, yet another reason you're talking about
the depth and the how loaded the NFC has yet
another reason why the Cowboys decided to look honestly at
themselves and work toward twenty twenty six and actually admit
the truth. Yeah, this is my favorite trade of the
entire day.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I love the fact that we are going to see
a couple of these teams, the Rams included and the
Seahawks reach their fullest form, like exactly the right time,
barring any sort of crazy circumstantial changes with injuries. And
I like that. It's it's like like explaining your faith
in Sam Darnold because you're giving him more weapons. It
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is helping out JSN because you know that once you
get to the playoffs, it's going to be total matchup
football and defenses are going to try to figure out
how to game plan your best player out of that game,
so then hit him with another guy. Like I just
I loved this, and I like it for the Saints
because again, like you said, they got decent value out
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
We still don't know what they're getting for Trevor Penning,
who was famously a h surprise first round pick that
they traded extra picks up for and did not work out,
very similar to how Mickey Loomis traded up to first
for Marcus.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That probably want to get released like overnight, just like
slipped into the mix. You know, it came in right
under the wire. It was the last trade of the day.
It's probably trying to hide it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's probably not a ton and uh we talked about
it me and shook On on Monday night too, Like,
will the Chargers try to do something to help that
offensive line after losing Joe Alt so that that makes
sense on that perspective, I do wonder, you know, Cooper
Cup is not a long term answer for the Seahawks.
I'd be surprised if he was on the roster next season.
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They do have an out in that contract. I don't
think it's been like a great fit, and I think
he'll just play less now because if they're in that
twelve personnel, you know, he's not going to be on
the field all the time. And that's that's not the
worst thing he could give you more maybe playing twenty
thirty snaps. Tory Horton looked pretty good for the other day.
Like Seahawks, they're rolling seas. Jacoby Myers went to the
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Jaguars for two mid round picks, a fourth and a six,
And I just want to congratulate Jacoby Myers because I
feel like no one else wanted to get traded more
than Jacoby Myers, kind of like Devanta Adams last year.
Hopefully this works out better for Jacoby Myers than DeVante
Adams and his time with the Jets a year ago.
But even then I think he was just still happy
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to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, and it fills an immediate need for the Jags
with Why am I blanking Ravis Hunter? I wanted to
call him Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Obviously that's the quarterback, but it's the commercials, which right now,
they took a big gamble in the first place doing
all the Trevor Lawrence Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, that's what it is exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It's a great commercial, but it was a risk and yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, so obviously this will help out. And it's not
like Travis Hunter was giving them a whole lot at
the wide receiver position because they kept switching him back
and forth between a couple snaps here on defense, a
couple snaps here on offense. I just don't know if
that is going to work for him going forward. Maybe
next year everything will slow down a little bit more.
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He can he can contribute a little bit more. But
when I was doing the international game that they were on,
Gerald McCoy was just talking about Travis Hunter and how
he really believed that he should only be playing defense
on the defensive side of the ball, and then here
and there having like a couple fun little packages for
him on offense.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
But I like that Jacoby Myers now will be there.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He's a wide receiver that will be able to help
Trevor Lawrence now that Travis Hunter is not out there.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And Deanmi Brown also got hurt in that game last week,
like that could have been part of it. Parker Washington
was their clear number one. Brian Thomas Junior got a
little banged up in that game. Don't know if it
was serious. Ian Rappaport does say though Travis Hunter will
be back this season, probably pretty soon after he's eligible
to get off IR which is three more weeks, and
that it'll still be playing wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Can I put my Galaxy brain head on for one?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Please?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Do you need help with its heavy it's so heavy.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Rain.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I don't know how your next supports the.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So I think that this is a move not just
to give them a little help production help in the
short term. I also think this is a move that
sets in motion a more cohesive plan for Travis Hunter
and this passing game in the long term after he
is back from this injury, because if you bring in
Jacoby Myers, one of the things that that tells me
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is you would like to have a Chris Godwin like
player in the slot, which Travis Hunter can be, which
Liam Cohen is trying to turn a passing volume and
dictating his passing game through that player. And I do
believe they think that player can be Travis Hunter, and
so then you can have your perimeter threat still in
Jacoby Myers. And it has been really weird with Brian
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Thomas Junior, whether it's they're running him in concepts he's
clearly not comfortable with or he's taking a step back,
and then there's like weird trade rumors circulating about him
that the team is like super quick to shut down,
but like still reports surfacing about well we'll take a call.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know, didn't happen in the end, but yeah, it
sounds like they were listening if someone wanted to give
them a so Sauce Gardner type offer.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'm just saying I think that not only is this
like a Okay, we need to keep producing as an
offense in the short term, but we also need to
have a much better plan overall and reset what we
want to do in the passing game, and whether it
is the reverse of what I said, where you're seeing
Jacoby a little bit more inside and Trevor Travis Hunter.
I just did it, Travis Hunter on the perimeter. Just
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one of these players has to be the volume inside guy.
That's what Liam Collin wants to do. We've seen it
work and so that's where I think this actually resets
their passing layers in a big way. And I just
don't think we're talking about it yet, and maybe we
will be after Travis Hunter gets back.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah. I don't know, though.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Take this off.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
It does you're here here, It does like a little
all right, got it?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Got it all Like there's a lot of repeating, maybe
duplicative skill sets. I mean, Hunter and Jacoby Myers are different,
but Jacoby Myers is a predominantly slot player throughout his career,
and he plays plenty on the outside too, but most
of his snaps are in the slot. And Parker Washington
was outstanding in the preseason and last week. It's kind
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of a predominant slot type of player. Deanmy Brown is hurt.
I think that maybe we'll find out as a bigger
part of it, But Jacoby Myers just a good player.
The interesting thing to me and keep an eye out. Yeah,
well we'll wrap here is like Shaheed and Myers are
both on the last year of their contracts, so it's
kind of tryout period for both of them. Because if
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you're going to give up two mid round picks, sure
it would help if they help you in a playoff
run now, but you would love that to be like
a long, long term thing, and I think Shaheed would
have a better chance for it to be a long
term thing. But who knows, Maybe maybe Jacoby Myers ends
up like re signing with the Jaguars or something long
term they want.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
They want to Chris Godwin, one of Mike Evans. However,
it shakes out one or two. I believe one of
those players is Travis Hunter and the other one is
going to be Jacobe Myers after Travis Hunter gets back. However,
whichever position it shakes out being slot for what's.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Brian Thomas Junior, Then he's Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I figured out man Emica Buca. He's Emicaua had a
step back though he took from last season. It's hard
when a new coaching staff comes in and it just
doesn't seem quite congruous to me yet. And it's I
don't know that it's anyone's fault, particularly I certainly don't
want to bury the player. He's so talented, he really
is so talented. But it's like Patrick clayboun noticed it
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early in the season. They're sending him on all these
inbreakers that he doesn't feel comfortable with. Then he's running
some inbreakers, some outbreakers. Trevor Lawrence, I almost did it again.
Trevor Lawrence is only targeting him on outbreaking routes like
his His heat chart for passing is crazy in terms
of where Brian Thomas Junior is running and the only
times he will throw him the ball. So I'm just
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saying there's there's something going on that just is not
quite matching. Yet it gets resolved, But you don't make
a move like this just because people are in your crabit.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Hunter is to.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Trevor Lawrence as Sam Darnold is to Sam.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Bradfirst, right, all right, right, I've got there.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Gets the Jacoby Myers just like a just a comfortable
pair of shoes, you know what I mean, Like you
know what you're gonna get, And I have this feeling
that he's some aged receiver because it was crazy that
the Patriots let him walk that contract age so well,
he only got thirty three million dollars over three years,
and they wouldn't even pay him that much or thirty
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nine million dollars over three years. He's only twenty eight
years old, so Jacoby Myers still I think has two
or three more good years. But like Shaheed in Seattle,
they'll have decisions to make pretty soon. They'll get a
little time to test drive it another couple minor deals
before we say goodbye. I should have mentioned with the
Cowboys they also picked up Logan Wilson for a seventh
which is funny that they just gave up a pick
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for Logan Wilson, a guy who you know couldn't get
on the field for the Bengals, but he probably will
help that Cowboys linebacker group, which is not great. And
then a l golden Yes and their their defense for
what it's worth. You know, they benched them and started
playing two rookies. They've somehow gotten even worse since they
benched them. And I always feel bad for Logan Wilson
because I'll always just remember that holding Callie had that
(36:20):
kind of swung the Super Bowl that was maybe not
a holding calls they called it totally forgot about pretty tight.
I mean the Rams would have had a couple more
plays at the goal line, but you know, if they
didn't call it, who knows, Joe tryan shank also to
the Bears for a late round pick swap. So that's
it for our trade deadline the Cold are going for.
(36:41):
I feel satisfied, so alive. How do you feel, by
the way, as an Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Call it a live line?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Am I right? Hey?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
How do you feel as an Eagles fan? To me
that Jalen Phillips trade was not as big as these
Jets trade, but just as big or bigger than the
Rashid Jaheed and Jacobe Myers moves. You get a real
deal young.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Prush, best pass rusher at the deadline. And so of
course Howie Roseman was like, Ring Ring, let me grab him,
and I'm gonna also help out my secondary as well.
I love the move. It's aggressive and that's what Howie style.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm wondering who's gonna get cut there that someone can't
make that team because they're adding Brandon Graham too to
the mix, they're adding Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So the next they only had fifty one roster spots.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Though, right they did clear some room in terms of space.
Jalx Hunt is like is there? I mean an Olan
Smith is there, but he's not on the active roster
right now. It's just they got They got a lot
of players. They got a lot of cornerbacks.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Michael Carter, they brought in, Jaya Alexander they brought in Also,
they earlier in the year, Tank Bigsby they brought in
Uh Like this is you.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Don't have to wait to the deadline to make the moves.
But I'm glad that some teams did, so good luck
to the Jets. We'll be talking about you a lot
in the upcoming march in April twenty. What else is
six and seven Cowboys will be talking about you a
little less than we expected.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I will fight the good fight.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
That's right. You were so high on the Cowboys in
the off season.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I thought, well, that was before Michael Parsons got traded.
But yes, I did take them over eight wins this year,
and I guess Quinn Williams gives it, gives us a chance.
I'll tell you who's not given up on Greg. Yeah,
Jerry Jones is not giving up on twenty twenty five.
It's my point, the eternal off to this. All right,
we will come back for the awards on Wednesday morning. Yeah,
(38:35):
so tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We'll also do our t NF preview. Yes, you'll you'll
see that show in the feed. Pre season, MVP all
the rest will be wearing the same stuff. We will
see that
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