November 11, 2025 • 55 mins
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Colleen Wolfe to preview the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Jets and Patriots. First, the crew gets you caught up on the news including Jaguars CB/WR Travis Hunter undergoing season-ending knee surgery (01:30), Matt LaFleur's job security with the Packers (05:30), Joe Schoen remaining Giants GM (12:10) and more. Up next, every team in the NFL is described with five words or less, starting with the NFC West (17:20) followed by the NFC East (21:20), NFC North (26:10), NFC South (29:35), AFC North (35:20), AFC East (38:00), AFC West (41:45), and AFC South (45:10). Finally, the show is wrapped up with a preview of the Jets and Patriots facing off on Thursday Night Football (48:15).
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where Grande's back in the house.
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You're always here.
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We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. This is
NFL Daily, Colleen Wolf, Jordan Rodrieg. We've seen each other.
It's Tuesday. Yeah, it's here.
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It's true.
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And for those of you who don't know who Caliana
Grande is, it's my pony too.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome such personality.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
She is truly and like all sorts of different personalities too.
I'm curly, beach waves straight, just like some tossled curls.
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It's like Ken, her job is beach. Your job is curl.
Your job is puzzle.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
You know what is volume. We're all in the you know,
sports biz.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But there there could be extra outside marketing opportunities for
you here with you know, like I don't know if
it would be like a line of toys or something,
line of fake hair, you knows, some sort of spon opportunity.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I was like, I don't know what that actually would be.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You're like, yeah, extension.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So today we have taken the three most succinct people
in sports media. Oh wow, Yes, and we've given them
a heart assignment. We're going to describe every team in
the NFL in five words or less. If you could
get it under five, believe to you. And we're going
to do it in an efficient, entertaining manner that makes
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our producers proud because they're afraid that this is going
to go super long.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's not. It's going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And we'll talk a little t NF preview on the
back end, but first let's do a little bit of news,
and unfortunately we'll start with a bummer. Travis Hunter is
not going to be back this season. We found out
on Tuesday afternoon that he is getting surgery on his knee.
It was hoped that it was going to be a
short term injury, that he was going to be ready
(01:54):
right when short term injured reserve like came up in
a few weeks and then a change of pace here
from Ian Rappaport, and yeah, they lose their dude, Travis
Hunter for the rest of the season. Such a bummer
for a guy that we kind of thought was going
to be a main character of this season. Just hasn't
worked out that way, I.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Know, and I think we were all right and fair
to be as excited as we were about him. I
think the Jaguars still I don't bemoan them or criticize
them for being as excited as they were to draft
this guy. I know it, you know, insides, groans in
hindsight and all of that, because it's totally turned out,
completely different than I think the highest of expectations on
(02:33):
Travis Hunter were, and maybe some expectations even unfairly placed
on him by the organization when they were so excited
to bring him in. And you know, he's changing football
and all of these things. But I think he still can.
I just think it's a really tough start to season.
Greg looks really grumpy right now.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, yeah, this this makes me grumpy. I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, I couldn't tell if it was what I was saying,
or you're watching something.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's a common thing the people feel.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm already feeling great. I'm going to look at call rest.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Greg faces something Colleen's brought up many times on this show.
I had to face at the people that would have
any sort of impatience with Travis Center.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I'm not greed at all.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
This was always going to take time to figure out
what his his actual life was going to be in
the NFL, with his jobs plural and I still think
it will be jobs plural in the NFL. I also
don't think if we were going to read the tea
leaves backwards, not as surprising, maybe just hidden really well,
because for all the optimism in the start, they did
still go out and trade for Jacobe Myers, So I
(03:31):
you know, I still like feel like that maybe telegraphed
a little bit of what the situation was, even though
I do think they have a plan for him long
term as well.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And it's just such a bummer too, because he had
his best game before he was injured, so we finally
started to see him kind of blossom and bloom and
his confidence come out a little bit more, and he
was supposed to be the focal point, or at least
that's what they were saying after the bye week, and
now we don't get to see that. And also Greg's face, yes,
(04:00):
it is, it's something that plagues everyone who does the
show with him because you don't know if he is
reacting to what you're saying, to what he's thinking, to
something that he's seeing on his computer, something that Eric
is saying to him, and a lot of times it's such.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
A pleasant face though it's so pleasant so much shame it.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Will sidetrack you sometimes, right, I'm like, I'm gonna wrap
this up.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know, I am miss focking. Should we stop
to out?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I get mocked for it at home sometimes today I
actually thinking with me, what a great drop. I love
that drop, and it's it is a lot for my
family to bear. But yet Emmica was making fun of
me this morning because I was making some face to
something responding to what I imagine myself saying in this
(04:49):
segment that's coming up later on the show, because it
was just you know, wow, why not Wow? Travis Hunters
gotta be fine. Give me all your Travis Hunters stock, Okay, plenty.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm still so excited about him.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's a five year rookie contract, right, and I think
to make that sort of trade, and I still believe
it what I thought when they made the trade, Like
the idea is for him to be in the Jacksonville
Jaguars Ring of Honor whatever it is that they do,
and it's a long term process. But I think he
showed immediately he is absolutely an NFL cornerback. The movement
(05:24):
skills are there for him to be an NFL receiver.
But it definitely was obvious that that took longer to
pick up. Let's talk a little bit about Matt Lafleur
coming off that rough Monday night game. I thought it
was really interesting right after the game, your colleague Matt
Schneidman of The Athletic asked him how he felt in
(05:46):
terms of whether he was coaching for his job now
in this season.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I'll leave that for everybody else to decide. I'll just
focus on the day to day and trying to do
I feel like you're always coaching for everything in this league.
You know, that's just my mindset.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
That's always been that way. You know, you can't ever.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Exhale. You got to always be pushing, and that's just
my mindset. So and that will be my mindset until
they tell me not to coach anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Usually we don't, you know, just do a press conference
as an item of news. But it does get to
something we started to talk about on the show yesterday
that the Green Bay residents, the Packers fans, they're not happy.
And then in this article by Schneidman kind of alludes
to the fact that hey, there is a new team president.
There ed policy they did not give the contract extension
(06:40):
to Matt Lafleur or Brian Gudakhantz the GM before the season,
So next year they would be entering a contract year,
which in coaching GM circles usually means this year is
really the contract year. Fascinating, it feels a little bit overreactionary,
but I get it. They're a team that has really
high expectations, well.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Dedably high expectations, and with ed Policy coming over, I
think we have to remember, like some of the moves
that they made immediately, they've made it clear they're not
going to be the same old Green Bay Packers. They're
not going to be a team that is very very
good but stay is very very good without transcending into
great to Super Bowl for quite some time at this point.
(07:21):
And so that's where when you see someone who you
know at leak circles, they talk about at Policy having
sort of an aggressive mindset of what he wants to do,
and that actually really fits Matt Lafleur that in a
way because of some of the way that Gudikins has
doubled down, tripled down on certain talent traits and really
been able to identify certain players. Also, could you know,
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define him too, and it certainly defines the moves that
they made, whether it was drafting Matthew Golden, but then
also going out and trading for Micah Parsons, really pushing
their chips in under. You know, this new team president
obviously they have no ownership overhead, so this person becomes extremely,
extremely important within the organization. At the same time there
is really a lot of frustration with this offense. There
(08:07):
also is extreme praise and a name starting to circulate
about the defense, and that is Jeff Hafley, who is
going to be a head coaching candidate in this cycle.
And you know, started out, you know, a little bit shaky,
adding new personnel, losing personnel in terms of the defense,
(08:27):
brought this defense along to improve over the last couple
of weeks in an extraordinary amount adjustments being made, getting
the most out of certain players. And I think that
that's also something that complicates this is all of the
noise of praise on one side of the ball. Well,
you have an offensive head coach and his offense does
not look good. And I think that that just adds
(08:48):
to this tightness in the amount of pressure that's coming
out of Green Bay right now.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And Ed policy is also mentioned that he doesn't want
to coach in a lame duck situation, so that would
mean that this decision needs to be made sooner rather
than later. And the slow starts on offense are just
becoming a trend. I know, against the Eagles, that was
a defensive battle and we haven't seen a shutout in
the first half in years and years. But before that
(09:14):
against the Panthers, they had only scored seven points in
the first half and it seems like that is sort
of an issue now that is trending.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And I think too, and I know Matt Lafleur a
little bit. I'd worked on a massive project with him
a couple of years ago, and he's brilliant, right, He's
absolutely brilliant. He is a coach who if he were
not going to be with that organization anymore, other teams
are running, not walking, to go bring him in to
their building and try to lock him in long term.
And his resume is incredible. With the Packers in terms
(09:44):
of the double digit win seasons, everything becomes different. Though,
when you have made a statement as an organization, which
they did with the Micah Parsons trade, that they believe
that they are a Super Bowl contending team. Your offense
cannot look like this if you're a super Bowl contending team.
And here lies the double edged sword of getting into
that level of contention. If all of a sudden something
(10:06):
does not look right, it becomes the finger that's sticking
out of the fist when you're punching right. That's the
one that gets broken.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's something to keep an eye on here.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But it's also I think people just overacting to the moment.
Like their tenth in offense this year, they're eighth in defense.
Defense has actually been like a little bit disappointing, like overall,
like we're coming off this last week where you're watching
that game and that was an incredible performance, Like the
week before they could not get off the field against
the Carolina freaking Panthers, Like watching that game back, like
it was just as much the defense, if not more
(10:36):
against Carolina. And so I just think it's it's overreacting
considering he's one of the best coaches in terms of
just win percentage in the history of the NFL, and
Jordan loved him. Make a lot of sense together. But
I don't doubt any of the reporting. They haven't been
as good this year and if, for whatever reason it
really went south the rest of the way, Yeah, he
would be really attractive.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And you look at him on paper, I don't if
you look at it from afar and you look into
one paper, this conversation is asinine, right, But at the
same time, like the dynamics of the conversation are what
we're trying to explain here, not necessarily his record, his percentage,
which are unarguable and undebatable in my opinion, right, but
(11:17):
the dynamics of that of that organization right now, and
the pressure that's the thing that I don't think people
are capturing enough, the enormous amount of pressure week over
week over week that is condensing and condensing the atmosphere
there showing it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He's showing it the way he's acting and the way
that he looks and look Guda Kan. It wouldn't be
shocking either if they both got sent away, if Lafleur did,
because Aaron Banks, like that was their huge move this offseason,
you know, before Michael Parkson, Aaron Banks, He's kind of
been a disaster for their offensive line. They're pushing the
chips in. I just look at it as like, yeah,
the context does matter that at one point in that game,
(11:55):
it's like, you don't have Tucker Craft, you don't have
Romeo Dobs, you don't have j Red, you don't have
Elton Jenkins. Like those are the guys you would make
like a top the list of the most important players
on their offense. All Right, we talked about Joe Shane
and Brian Dabole on Monday, so everyone check out that
that breaking news episode we had. I did just want
to close the circle because at the time that we taped,
(12:16):
we weren't entirely sure that Joe Shane was going to stay.
Although Ian Rappaport, as he does, pretty much knew and
said on the show that he fully expected Joe Shane
to stay. And yes, the GM just thirty minutes like
after we tape that. I hate when that happens. It
was it was announced in a press release, but I
thought this was very funny calling and very telling. When
(12:38):
they sent the tweets out announcing that Dave Ball is gone.
They take a big section of the press release and
they put it out on Twitter, and I noticed that
they stopped the section of the press release that went
out on Twitter right at the point where they announced
how much they believe in Joe Shane and that Joe
Shane is going to help them pick the next coach,
(12:58):
and that Joe Shane has done a good job building
a young nucles because they're not stupid, they know that
Giants fans are gonna think this is a half measure
and Joe Shane hasn't really done much of a good job.
It was Joe Shane's pick to hire Brian Dable, and
more than anything, it was Joe Shane going into this
offseason that was like, no, we need to keep Dable
(13:19):
and Shane Bowen one more year. Was Dabe's decision to
keep Shane Bowen, but he really pushed to keep Dable
one week so they knew the fans would not be
happy with that. So it's like, you cut that part off.
Its a little social media strategy.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well yeah, and that was very strategic on their parts,
So good job by them.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I just thought it was so interesting because for
up until, like even just a few weeks ago, it
seemed like the two of them, Joe Shane and Brian
Dable were like a package deal and that they were
both in this together and that no matter what happened,
it would either be both like all or nothing, and
then one week you all of a sudden heard ooh,
(13:57):
Brian Daball not sure about him, and it was just
like then the following week he was gone.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So it escalated quickly. The fracture.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Chaos is a ladder, so is uh what happened?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
So is like the workplace.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And I think one of the as you get older,
you realize, like, oh, one of the biggest skills to
succeeding in life for a large swath of people are
people that can attach themselves to positions of power.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yes, that's what I did to you.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Gret does not explain everything.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Good coattail around here.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Hold On doesn't explain everything, doesn't even necessarily explain most things,
like talent matters. There's a lot that goes into it,
you know. But in the NFL, and I think in
probably a lot of workplaces, there are a lot of
people that are good to attaching themselves to power. And
so Joe Shane is is John Mayra's guy, the owner,
and he's going to stay.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Little sized, medium coat tails say.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
The small, the small if I'm not a small, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Do love his shirt.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Small, I know that's a really good shirt, Greg color,
good text.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's a pop and I'm waiting for sweater weather and
it's just like not arriving if I see it's over seventy,
to make it happen. Like if it's still over seventy,
I'm gonna be dressing like it's the summer. That's the
beauty of Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Come join us.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Paid for it by the Los Angeles City Council. Last
item of news, Last couple. Dan Quinn is taking over
as defensive coordinator in Washington. So like Dan Campbell, it's
the week of Dan's yeah in Detroit. Who's not taking
over as offensive coordinator exactly, but is taking over as
the play caller. He's trying to do something. Also, Deron Pain,
(15:33):
we didn't mention this on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That's my fault.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Was thrown out of Sunday's game for punching a mon
Ross Saint Brown with an empty fist. Maybe we did
talk about that now that I think, well, just like
I mean, hitting a helmet, hitting a helmet with a
closed fist is just the dumbest thing you can you
can possibly do because it's only going to hurt yourself
and it's going to cost you a week's salary, which
for Deron Payin, who makes a lot of money, is
(15:58):
like close to a million dollars. I mean, that's a
preposterous thing to lose for hurting your own hand. But
he has been suspended and that is upheld, so he
is not going over to Madrid. Neither is Jaden Daniels.
Neither is Trey Amos, who has a fractured ankle. So
the vibes are down horrendous in Washington, and the Steelers'
(16:19):
vibes they're confusing. We'll get to them in a second.
But I do like the fact that they signed a
Santi Samuel Jr. To their practice squad. I'm surprised Santi
Samuel Jr. Couldn't get a better contract than that, but
he's coming off of a spinal fusion surgery. I really
thought he was a good player for the Chargers when
he was at his best, so good luck to him.
He kind of fits what they're going to do. Let's
get to the second.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I've noticed you're composing your face very carefully since the opening.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I definitely am not composing my face any differently. I
promise there's a lot going on on this head right now,
But that's not one of them.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
We're in your psyche though you always are in we
live there and in the coattail.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Will I live here?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You know, in.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Some world, I'm always in the Chris Westling podcast. I mean,
we keep going, might as well take a break at this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
There is the love language that I love that I'm
used to thank you thrown in Colleen voice. So this
was a great idea by Eric. Shout out to executive
producer Eric Roberts. If this segment doesn't work, yeah, it's
not all on you, Eric. We bear some responsibility, but
you're like the coach. You're like Matt Lafleur right now,
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and someone out there is ed policy watching this and
hoping that it all works, and we got to make
it work. We're the players. We're going to describe each
team in five words or less. I think it's that simple,
and we're going to go through. We assigned division by division,
but I wanted to be equal, so at the end
we're just going team by team, so so that no
one felt like they had an extra division or anything.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And you actually went back and like fixed it too.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I did.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I messed it up at first.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I don't know what happened with the first one, but
you know in yours it was quality was right there
in the forefront.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, so should I get us going? Yes, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Let's do it all right, Let's start with the NFC West. Okay,
we'll go there for the Arizona Cardinals. And this yes
is describing each team in five words or less. It's marveson.
That's it. We're done for the day. Fire A wrap on,
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Greg Fire, Matt Lafleur, Sorry, ed so great, Eric, Uh,
you know, the guy you chose to be in charge
ultimately couldn't handle it, and your segment's gonna fail. The
Arizona Cardinals Marvin Harrison, Senior in charge.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I love that. That's great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I don't know if you noticed a couple of weeks ago,
how he just said, I can't watch this offense.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
This is not this is not all what I'm used to.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And immediately they're like, okay, we're gonna change our franchise
quarterback and change the entire director.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mentioned it on our pregame show, but like, I
got nothing from it. So I don't know how many
people actually he was listening to what his Dad.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Was saying, yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't some random podcast.
He was like, no, you're just gonna tell ESPN dot com. Okay,
the Rams personnel so heavy, Jordanikey.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh my god, okay, cool, I love this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Great job, Eric.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
We've wad a nice recovery here, Greg.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We Yeah, we have a whole social video about it
that really explains that. You know, it just gets you
going in the morning when you see that thirteen personnel
and that those tight ends and full backs and oh man,
wide receivers blocking oh man, the forty.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Nine ers ouch oof oh why Ash?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's five words, five exactly five five words.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, not the over so good job.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think that was pretty self explaina to her. You
wouldn't think that they were six and four based on that,
But I just I do think that kind of explains
their entire season.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And then the Seahawks Dom Sam d v o A.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Darlens. This one's like a little tricky, tricky, but it's
not like the normal Sam that we've seen before. It's
like Dom Sam.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No, I know you're saying, I'd love for you to
not explain this.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
No, I don't need to I think everyone everyone knows
it doesn't like a dom Sam. You're up next. Oh god,
NFC East cool?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
All right, gang, here we go. So I'm gonna start.
Are we going in alphabetical order?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Do it by the city name that that'll help out,
because all right, look, do it by whatever is it.
I'll give I'll give you time. I'll give everyone behind
the scenes time. We're putting up graphics. It's on the
NFL channel. The words dom Sam and me just saying
OUCHI or whatever is is making it onto the NFL channel.
And then you can also watch us on YouTube. And
(21:10):
I've been noticing the subscribers they've been they've been picking
up a little bit. So just like, subscribe, support the
show and support what Colleen is.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Ok here we go.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
The Dallas Cowboys first up here. Five words are filing
a missing Parsons report.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I love a pun.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Thank you. I feel like that really doesn't need I
think everything.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, they are very disappointing this year, and the defense
is a massive reason why. Okay, so next one is
the New York Giants. I can do alphabetical order straight
off of my head. Okay, you can't sit with us,
and that is from Mean Girls and we all it's
(21:58):
it's a couple of different reasons why I sit with us,
because there are so many players that are injured that
there's just not room.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Also, Brian daball, you can't sit with us.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, oh you're out.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So that's the Giants.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
So normally I would I would hear that and think,
like they're the cool.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Kids, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like, but no, like literally, you can't sit with us.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, they don't go home.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You've been dismissed.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
They don't seem they don't seem that cool right now,
Like that's not a tabe.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But they were like I actually was liking the Giants
for a second.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And I hated the fact that I was liking the
Giants for a second because Jackson Dart and camp Skataboo
were super fun and they were exciting and they were
ridiculous and they were such bros.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I hate it that I was like into it.
So I'm going to have a problem going forward, I think,
with this team. But for now, yeah, you can't sit.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well did you see that the animation that Malik Neighbors
happened to post on his Instagram story overnight. I wouldn't
have seen this either, but now it's getting passed around,
so we'll see if we can get permission to it.
But it just was about the difference of of like
what Jackson Dart is like, you know, as a home
at home and then maybe when he's out with the
(23:12):
boys spoke so fun.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
We'll see later, all right.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Okay, I recommend everyone go check that out.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Perfect the Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles, Torn like Natalie and Bruglia.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
The Great Natalie and Bruglia had such a banger of
a song.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm torn because I love the defense right now, and
I really like all of the moves that Howie Roseman
made and Jalen Phillips adding him back into the fold
with Vic Fangio. He played so well against the Packers.
I'm really into the defense right now. The offense, though,
is so inconsistent. I don't really know what to think.
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So I am literally torn on this team. Yes, they
have the record and they're getting the wins, but I'm
trying to protect myself from myself.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Don't they feel like though this is a team and
organization that they almost need. They need it like this,
they need the chaos, their love language is like an
ugly regular season where everyone's starting to doubt them and
then suddenly, like at the end, it just ends up
being perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I hate when you're right. You're right. That's my love
language too. Chaos. It's the only way I can thrive.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You need deadlines, yes, chaos, you need everything falling apart,
and then you're just like, Okay, we figure it out
right now while everyone is at their wits end and
you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Maybe that is their secret sauce.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Can I could I like bring you back to last
season around this tide and like how they were thinking,
And then can I bring you back to the final
three weeks of the season in twenty seventeen when they
won the Super Bowl and everyone just assumed not only
is the season over, but every like the most beautiful
Eagle season of all time is completely ruined and there
was zero hope left. And then they just, you know,
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won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It was like, Okay, yeah, how in the world is
Nick Foles and this Eagles offense going to play against
the Minnesota Vikings defense?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And then yeah, they did it.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, but that's also not counting the year in between.
All of that just flapped and the chaos, just like
it closed in on them. That happens, okay, And the
last one in the division, the Washington Commanders Fix You
by Colturep and I just you know it's it's a
song about helping someone through a hard time when they're
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feeling very low and sort of crashed out. And I
was looking up the lyrics and it's kind of like
right on the nose when you try your best but
you don't succeed, when you get what you want, not
what you need, when you feel so tired but you
can't sleep, you're stuck in reverse.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know if they're getting what they
want unless that's like a.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Okay, well so in my mind what they got what
they want when they finally signed Terry McLaurin to the deal,
but it was like a little maybe too late.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Still so annoyed by that.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Personally, right, And they got it last year to what
they wanted and this but not what they would cost, right, Yeah,
it hurts all right, Jordan, you're up with the NFC North.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Okay, So NFC North, We're gonna start with Chicago Bears.
They're good. Is getting better you guys. A reference to
Ben Johnson's thing that he's chanced with all of his
players in the locker room scrum after every win, good
better best. Never let it rest until you're good gets
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better and you're better gets best.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
The Chicago Bears this wait that's up in his locker room.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
He chants it every time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's right, I have.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's shel Silverstein.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I believe, and is it?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Never let it rest until your good gets better and
your better gets best. Chicago Bears, they're good is getting better?
You guys, hope is here?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I do like it.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It just goes to show you can say whatever like
you want.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And with these motivational slogan, as long as they can,
like call a play, you'll get you'll get by with it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
If it's catchy and you can scream it with veins
popping out of your neck, it works.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
If he's Manning has showed us that motivating Manning, you
can really make anything, turn anything into a slogan.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Is that sponsored by whatever? Commercials?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But if they uh definitely not progress?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Is it progressed?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Maybe it is?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I like the backup.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Probably if that's one of those things that if they
were two and seven, everyone would be mocking them for it,
but since they're winning, then it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Detroit Lions Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell versus offensive regression, which
to me is the physical embodiment of Dan Campbell as
the spider man who's like holding the two trains as
the trains are crashing, and it's Dan Campbell like for
real offensive aggression and his little glasses are on his
face and all he's straining to try to pull this
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offense back into what he knows it could be. We'll
see if it works.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
That was more than five words, though, Well, I'm explaining it. Oh, okay,
did you miss my?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Did you miss my?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Greg?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
The word I?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
There was no There was no stopping. I just just
kept going.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, I'm trying to keep the pace. You know, we
were told to keep this quick.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Oh we were told it's nationwide.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
By the way, got it on your side, Green Bay
Packers too much talent for this, doesn't need explanation. Minnesota
Vikings one personality with multiple moods.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hmmm, that does need explanation. I want I want some
one personality with multiple moods. So is that I would
interpret that as Kevin O'Connell, who seems like a complex man.
Maybe there's lots of sides to Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
I would think so.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But I think as a team, we know what this
team is supposed to be. We know what they came
into the year projecting themselves as, and all of a
sudden you're getting this extreme whiplash depending on which version
of himself the quarterback is every single and so you
do have a purported team identity, right, yeah, but you
never know actually what mood you're going to be in
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that day, or what mood the quarterback is in, or
what version of the quarterback you get. So one personality
with multiple moods, and it's like bipolar and being Yeah,
dealing with someone who's bipolar.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Kevin O'Connell, who always presents very like under control and
good guy in public, you've started to see like the
cracks a little bit, like he's starting to get like
just a little bit annoyed, lafleur, like the pressure there
in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
All right, NFC sou that was it for that division?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, okay, first up, we have doing the cities here.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The Carol Lane of the Atlanta Falcons, gotcha, everybody, I.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Do like that it's doubling as a test for can
you alphabetize?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
See this is why I was stressed two minutes before
we started.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Okay, Atlanta Falcons starting with the A's
here Southern hospitality. Why because of their inability to sustain drives.
They are really showing their opponents, So they're hospitality.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You did it in two words. Yeah, that's gonna be
tough to top.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
There's Oh, don't worry. There's some ones that are coming
up that are just one word.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
There's only one way.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Are you? Are you not having a stop watch out
for the pauses?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Greg or you She gave a good pause.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I'll accept that pause except that pause.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay. Next up, we have the Carolina Panthers Cats out
of the bag.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh, because you know, they're coming off of the three
game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And I feel like, if cat's out of the bag,
it's like, no, they're not coming back in. It's gonna
stay bad. It's almost like a prediction.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I kind of hope that that's not true, but I
felt like the cat was in the bag. They had
it in the bag when they were winning.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Maybe it's Schrodinger's cat. You don't know if they're alive
or dead?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Oh god, pound in all right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay. Then we have the New Orleans Saints. Awe, shucks,
I love a pun.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, he's shown some promise and they got their folks
their first road win.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah in week ten, so I'm happy for I.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Want more pot Yeah. It's like that was like a
nice little pat on the head for them.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Shucks.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
And then we have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who this
one for me. It's a little pirty, like an rmydy
type deal.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Okay, are you are you coming up with it right now?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Okay, not at all.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
But they are about to go into the toughest part
of their schedule, so I was thinking, like along the
terms of a pirate and a stormy see, and they
have to weather the storm, but they still have a
favorable situation, so it's almost like they're an annoyed pirate.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But it is our matie, right is that? Isn't that?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
That's the that's the phrase is R matie? Yes, okay, So.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I've just never spelled it out before, so I wasn't
surious how you did spell it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I would I would spell I would spell a R,
but like six rs right, r mate. Yeah, so, and
how does that describe the team? Again?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Describes them because you know they had the recent loss obviously,
but and all of the they've weathered the storm of
all of the injuries that they've dealt with, and now
they're about to go into a tough part of their schedule.
But they've gotten through this so far that now our
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matie wait and see what happens next.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
We might we might workshop that one going the break.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, a lot of might need help, guys.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, my mine as well. I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying
this second mean so much. Eric, we're halfway through.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, is this going as fare?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
You're in charge? No, I think it's going at a
good pace.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Can you just give us, like your halftime speech slash
evaluation of how we're doing before.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
We I'm involved in this way too much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
You guys are doing great, okay, especially the alphabetizing live
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Actually, thank you, Eric. I like everyone has their own.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
And we're gonna do the rest of the league, and yes,
we'll talk a little t NF at the end of
the show.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
We have some breaking news here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Whoa, what is it? Colleen Wolf was making the Buccaneers
slogan as she went, which is totally fine.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Listen, here is the situation.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm a terrible liar, but I also am such a preparer,
and when I looked at my notes, I realized.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That was the only team that I just did not
have one for. And I had all of the reasoning
but not the actual phrase.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So can I submit like shiver me timbers sing instead
in place of that?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
I think you did well with it in the end,
but it was un Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think everyone knew that I was lying, and I
would just like to say that is a characteristic of
a good person. I'm a bad liar and I have
come around to admit this, and I apologize to the
listeners for.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
What a saved.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's like someone who's in a job interview, like what's
your biggest weekness? I worked too hard, you know, I'm
just perfectionist. I don't have a bad work balance. That
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I'm glad to get that off.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
The same thing happened to me too.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Our our producer on the NFL channel side Quab asked
me what my Steelers one was on the way, and
I was like, oh wait, that's the one I forgot.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Thank you so much. It happens to the best of us.
And by saying that, I was saying the best of
us is me.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Another interview trick, by the way, who's a little subtle
trick of phrase there.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, let's do a NFC North It's my turn,
and I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens to start,
and the phrase would be feeling alive closer to death. Wait,
because every Colleen show that we do together that is
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five words.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It seems longer.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I mean, don't you You know you hear that with people,
whether it's something that happens in their life or something
they go through, like getting a little closer to death.
It's every Tuesday gonna it's gonna make you feel alive death.
And for John Harbaugh and this Ravens team, you know,
falling to one and five at this point, like they've
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done the regular season thing, if like one m VPS,
they've won a lot of games, it's like to just
feel a little more alive. You had to fall to
one in five.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yes, you feel to the brink and back. You have
seen the worst. You know what, it's like and now
it's like, ah, almost like a near death experience.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's where I was going.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I could have just said a near death experience, but
I guess you went your way.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Well, I like my way better.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know what, we should make this a collaborative effort.
Maybe go back to the box real quick and.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
The words are calamitous, wretched, ruinous, ooh, pathetic defense.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Wow, pathetic seems personal. I don't know why. Ruinous is
an amazing word.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Ruinous that's ruined. It's ruined so many things. It's ruined
Sundays for those fans. It's like ruin the excitement over
Joe Burrow possibly returning. It's just it's just horrible. I know,
the Cleveland Browns, the Curse of Deshaun Watson. Don't think
much explanation really needs, but that really explains the last
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four years. And then the Steelers, which I did come
up with after Quab reminded me, which is the same,
different year.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Just like, so, not only did you come up with one,
you also gave Quab extra work.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Sure that's true, but I said it to him and
he said, yeah, that's perfect. And that's only four words,
it's like, oh, Mike Tomlin, your team is getting out
scored overall, but you have a winning record and you
seem like just targeted for losing that first weekend of
the wild Card once again. West of this same stuff
they weirdly have. God, they're too interesting to be put
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into the West of His spot. They usually get. I
feel like now that Saturday night in the C spot
where it's like good ratings, but they probably won't give
you a good game. All right, Jordan, you're up AFC East.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
AFC East dream with me here, people, Okay, I'm gonna
start with the bills and imagine the this to the
popular LIT song their own Worst Enemy?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Mmm, what's the popular LIT song?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Is?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
That?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Is li lits the art list?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Yeah, but well what's the actual song?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
That's the song?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Surprise to me, I am my own worst ed. There
you go, because every now and then I kick the
living out of me. See I tried that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I tried that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't know if we can.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Even keep that and now I got it right now,
Actually we can't.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We're gonna have to play a song.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
That's because it was so closely in tune origin to
the original.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But yeah, watch out.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We're gonna Jordan and I are going to go off
and start our own band right to the top of
the charts.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
We don't play any instruments, but it's fine.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Play like anyone that was on the Warped tour. You're
gonna be covering.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh man, I love the war.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, I mean this is pretty self explainatory. They they
truly are. They have been their own It's even the
Chiefs anymore. They are their own worst enemy. Okay, the Patriots.
I'm fully aware I'm about to lose any cool points
I may have ever garnered with either of you two,
including everybody in the in the booth as well.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
A setup. I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Let me put on my Galadriel voice, whispers of a
nameless fear. Okay, you won't get it. You're doing the
face Lord of the Rings. Reference listeners. Listeners not only
will get this, yes, I will get messages about it,
and I will get love from them. I don't need
it from you, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm no, I'm very intrigued that the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yes, a shadow rises in the east. What the old
the old evil has returned?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Mmm, I hate the old evil.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Yeah, Patriot, but it's like, uh, it's like the Old
Evil with like some new paint.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Though. It's like that little scene, Yeah, when Dave Portnoy
is in the owner's box.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I think we can call it the Old Evil. Okay, Mike,
I was.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Like, I can't enjoy a touchdown from Drake May you
gotta immediately go to Portnoy. It's like it makes it tough.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
More movie references on the way the Miami Dolphins, How
you like them Apples? Because when I saw the photo
of Mike McDaniel in his car with his giant watch
hanging out the window, driving past the bills bar I
immediately thought of that scene in Goodwill Hunting when Will
slaps the number on the glass and says, how you
like them apples?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh, I got a number.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
How you like them apples?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's so good too? And then he like they asked
him about it on Monday, and he did the Mike
McDaniel thing where he just gave a total non like
a non answer that did confirm it, but did it
in such a confusing way that you couldn't even totally
laugh at that. You couldn't quite use it as like
a sound bite on shows like this where he said
something like AI is real, So that could have happened.
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It was like, hey, who are you? But I do
love that he did that. More coaches and players just
like stunting on their opposition even when they're losing. Bat like,
enjoy the wins when you're losing.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, I never mind it. Jets super earnestly want to
say this, just learn how to win. They're loaded already
on draft picks. I don't want them to worry about
draft order at this point. I just want them as
an organization to understand what it actually means and takes
to win football games and get into that habit before
they go about this full on rebuild.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
And we'll be talking about them shortly. Little T and
F last time in primetime for the Jets this year,
And is that the end of the AFC East? It
is losing track all right. Now we're gonna go We're
gonna go team by team here. Okay, we've divided up Broncos.
You have Colleen.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Okay that John Denver is full of And that's five
words because I didn't say the last one. But it's
because well, first of all, I don't know if anyone
thought that the Broncos would go on the run that
they're on. Just looking at their record, however, it's kind
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of like when I look at the wins and you
watch the games and you see the way that the
offense is so inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Are they full of we don't know, we're really uh oh,
win's a win though, but really using that button, I know.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, it's true, but yeah, so I just feel like
they obviously rely on their defense so much and we
don't know what the if the offense can sustain playing
at this level.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
But they are eight and two now, So.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Big week, Chiefs Broncos. We'll talk about it on Wednesday.
You have the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Mahomes' last wild card twenty twenty one. Oh and I
know it's a confusing because it's only five words, right,
so I only working five words. He's only not had
a first round by twice, so.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
He played in the wildcard round in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, so we're technically thinking about the Chiefs possibly being
a wildcard the wildcard team because of the way the
AFC is set up right now, it's it would be
really weird for him to not have a first round by.
It feels like forever, because it has been forever.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
I am bringing this up. I would not be able
to have remembered this off the top of my head.
But yes, they were.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
They played the Steelers in the wildcard round and then
they beat the Bills and they got to have it
at home because I think there were multiple upsets in
the divisional round, so they still got to have Maybe
it wasn'tny multiple upsets, but they basically just didn't get
to buy and they beat the Bills and then yeah,
they lose to the bank.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
It feels like so many lifetimes and you know what
it will be a tougher rountis.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
That I put myself into so I didn't have to
google Taylor Swift lyrics guys to try to make a
tailor swift pun. I felt like that was going to
be the obvious thing. Instead, I went overly complicated.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Oh what's the Taylor Swift pund that's on me?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I don't have any.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I didn't want to do.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
She's really great with her puns and things, and I
feel like that would have I wanted to challenge myself
and then I just set us all through mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Here the Raiders. The Raiders are I thought it was great.
I think it's a good point. It's salient about the
different path the Chiefs are going on right now, the
Raiders familiar path forlorn, melancholy, hopeless Pete. That's it, just
like what do we need with like a sad peak,
Carrol Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Nobody wants it, nobody likes it, nobody needs.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
It, Like if I could have fit, like I don't
belong here anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
That was what I was thinking of the it doesn't
even go here, just it's just said Chargers calling.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Okay, Chargers. Thunderstruck. That's one word.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
And I feel thunderstruck by the Chargers this year.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And knew that they would be good, and I knew
that they would figure things out. But I just like
every time Jim Harball has a microphone near him, it's
it's fun and shocking and amazing, and I'm just I
like the vibes of this team.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And they've had every reason to not be seven and
three right now.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
All these are that they've dealt with and still look
at them. I love it.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Texans Jordan Davis Mills to the rescue, My god, I.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Hope not we got any c J. Stroud News that
was great.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Last week it was great.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I had to really stretch that one.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
That was that was good. The Tones, it was like
Dan Campbell with his Tones talking about the play call.
I'm calling the plane.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I mean, I'll do it. I'll stick my neck out.
I think they're going to make the playoffs. Look at you,
let's do the Jaguars. I came up with two with
the Jaguars and then never decided which which I want.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We'll tell you which one's better.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Oh, I can do both. Yeah about that, I got
the side in the moment.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
We will judge them.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Actually, you know what, the second one is just boring.
The Jags messy fun no longer fun. I mean right,
They've just kind of been a bummer to watch. We
named them our messy fun team of the Year, and
then they went out the next week and just had
this totally bizarre win over the Chiefs that was so
far the peak of the Jaguar scene. But you know what,
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they've got time. They're literally still in the playoffs as
of today. Over the Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
It sounds like a college relationship. Yeah, massy fun and
not fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, like when you see his bathroom for the first time.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Oh my god, what has happened in here?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
What?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How old is this? How long has that been sitting there?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Speaking of young men disappointing you. My other one was
Trevor leaves us bleach. My other one was Trevor leaves
Us wanting more. That's more said, all right.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Colts, Colts, the limit does not Existoo, two mean girls
references in one show. I know, I know, Yeah, the
limit does not exist for the Colts team because they're
going all of the way.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Been some warning signs the last few weeks, but I
do like that they went into the it's always big,
get into the bye with the win. That was big.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
And finally Jordan wrapping up with the Titans.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Are you guys right for this?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I've never been more ready.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
The Titans are still playing. Oh that's right, five words exactly.
At least they're in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
They have like a they have like a cool number
one overall pick playing quarterback. And yes, they they might
be the most forgettable team right now in the NFL,
but they might have the number one pick again two
straight years.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Not a great sign. Jets also in the mix for
the number one overall pick and I'm going to say it.
I think that was a success. Describe your teams in
five words or I want I want my Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
One back.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay, yeah, there's always changes the books. One back after
the fact, Eric, are you happy with it? We're getting
the thumbs out.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
It was good. Good job, guys.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They felt like a little hesitation.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Yeah, they felt like it was good. Felt like we
can be better. Like edge on the ship here, guys.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
That was Dan Campbell denying his plays.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
The New York Jets are playing the New England Patriots
this week. And before the season, if you had told
me that it would be a twelve and a half
point spread, oh crazy. I wouldn't have believed it. But
the Patriots have won seven straight games. They're coming off
I think their best win of the season against the Bucks.
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The Jets will not have Garrett Wilson in this game.
They will not have starting cornerback Aziree Thomas in this game,
who has a concussion. And I was thinking, actually, this
could be a tricky spot for the Patriots because the
Jets have played better over the last month.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
They've been the competitive team.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
They've also won, you know, the last couple of games,
and defensively especially they have turned it around and have
been mostly respectable, but losing Garrett Wilson especially is a
big bummer for this team.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, because they're going to have to lean on the
run and Brisall is going to have to go up
against this really good Patriots run defense. So I'm not
sure how they're going to score points because obviously the
Patriots are going to know that they're going to run
the ball, so they're going to stack the box.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
So what do you even do? How do you get
creative in those situations?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And Drake May has been playing so well now going
up against a secondary without Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Will McDonald is also I knew I was forgetting someone
else that is absolutely crucial to what they do. And
I think Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson, it's only been
a couple games together, Like, that's a really good edge duo.
I think they should be happy that they didn't trade
those guys away. And Will McDonald's been playing well, but
they don't have a chance like to often play with
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the lead and then let those pass rushers go. And
this is a game where, yeah, they might not be
playing with the lead.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah, and the Patriots might be And the Patriots might
be running the ball a lot, which means I would
like to see more Trevion Henderson. We saw really his
explosive playability on full display last week, and I think
there's high potential for that to happen again. I am
so impressed, way more impressed than I thought I would
be with this Patriots defense. I know it was a
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place they invested heavily into, and Mike Rabel set about
sort of pruning all of the former Belichick draft picks
and removing them from the roster and then playing his
guys and some of the guys that they went out
and spent money on in free agency. From the front
to the coverage, they are so solid. Even if the
Jets had multiple threats in the passing game, it's it
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would be so hard. Christian Gonzalez is playing well. This
front is defending the run extremely well. But they also
are are looking dynamic against the pass too. It's just
they are an entire handful, and it is why I'm
saying they're back. I mean, and they're back. Unfortunately for
the rest of the East, a new dark is rising. Mmmm.
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But it was the same dark the whole time, the
same evil.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
It's such a it's such a strange season. And then
and that game was typical of it, Like the running
game was terrible for every run except for two essentially,
and even like their passing game was pretty inconsistent in
that game. But you have Drake May, who as a
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second year player just seems beyond his years, and he
is the one who changes the play at the line
of scrimmage to set up Kyle Williams for that insane touchdown,
and that was just like it wasn't even bad defense.
It was just a perfect call against man coverage and
a really incredible throw and some explosive ability from Drake
May and Kyle Williams. And same thing with that fourth
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down play. But like their players are just good. But
then you peek behind like the curtain a little bit
and some of the numbers don't totally support what the
eye test tells you, Like they're somehow still twenty ninth
in DVOA on defense because you know they're giving up
drives and they they do tend to give up some
big plays. But I think to your point, Jordan, that
they are improving, that they're a lot better that's including
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the entire season of stats. In the last month or so,
they've been much better. I think the offensive line is
getting better too. That that would have been the area
where I'd be concerned, because Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald
have nine quick pressures last week in that Jets game,
like they were awesome. They were the best edge duo
in the league last week. But without Will McDonald like that,
then they can send help to the other side and
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there's like less of a route for them to win.
And yet there's something about like the Jets. I'm always worried,
even though that they've handled the Jets over the years,
I'm always worried about the Jets.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
That's their rival.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Look at what we.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
Almost like a team of pesky, optimistic upstarts could upset
dynastic evil. You know, I want to want you to
make a movie about that.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, they might start justin fields in this game, but
they might start to Taylor. They would not take any questions.
And by day I mean Aaron Glenn on Monday, I know,
but he was like he was just like, stop with
the quarterback questions.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
I don't want any quarterbacks. It's like that.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's gotta be a question kind of a big deal,
especially when like you had zero dropback game like Field is.
I think the best way to beat the Patriots though,
is actually have Justin Fields play quarterback and just run
him like they have not unlocked him as a runner.
Has been like a little a little surprising to me.
I guess that's all we got on Jet's Patriots.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
It'll be fun either way.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Sad sad state of affairs, but I do like to
see like the Patriots in primetime with this version of
the Patriots feels.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
New like it does.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
It's like a totally different team.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
I wonder how much waxing Crescent talk we get from
Al on this, you know, depending on how the game
game actions going. Yeah, you know, that's always my favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
They were.
Speaker 5 (53:57):
They were the first team, by the way, only or no.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
One of only three team in twenty five years last
week to have four fifty yard plus plays. So that
was just like a really weird, really like explosive. Yeah,
it's hard to get a fifty yard game in the
NFL with US four, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
The first Patriots team since two thousand early two thousands
have two rookies have recorded explosive play fifty plus yards in.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
The same game.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
And you have Will Campbell, who's getting better at left tackle,
like they are led by their young guys. But it's
just a he's getting better. It's been good better, it's
been solid his favorite. I mean, I wanted armand Membu,
and I would still want armand Membu. Who's on the
other side. The Jets offensive line is playing really well.
They're actually are pieces here. I think for the Jets
fans to get excited about die you never know quarter
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because I'm a homer, I think, actually I would take
the Jets to cover that twelve and a half if
nothing else. That's it for today's show. We described the
entire NFL in five words, and we did it so well.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I'd say we crushed that assignment.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
I think we absolutely did. We will be back. It'll
be me Jordan and Patrick Claybonn on the preview show.
Will hit thirteen games this week, Big week.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
Can't wait for it. We will see you on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'll see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Hi,
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're always here.
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We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. This is
NFL Daily, Colleen Wolf, Jordan Rodrieg. We've seen each other.
It's Tuesday. Yeah, it's here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And for those of you who don't know who Caliana
Grande is, it's my pony too.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome such personality.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
She is truly and like all sorts of different personalities too.
I'm curly, beach waves straight, just like some tossled curls.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's like Ken, her job is beach. Your job is curl.
Your job is puzzle.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
You know what is volume. We're all in the you know,
sports biz.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But there there could be extra outside marketing opportunities for
you here with you know, like I don't know if
it would be like a line of toys or something,
line of fake hair, you knows, some sort of spon opportunity.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I was like, I don't know what that actually would be.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You're like, yeah, extension.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So today we have taken the three most succinct people
in sports media. Oh wow, Yes, and we've given them
a heart assignment. We're going to describe every team in
the NFL in five words or less. If you could
get it under five, believe to you. And we're going
to do it in an efficient, entertaining manner that makes
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our producers proud because they're afraid that this is going
to go super long.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's not. It's going to be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And we'll talk a little t NF preview on the
back end, but first let's do a little bit of news,
and unfortunately we'll start with a bummer. Travis Hunter is
not going to be back this season. We found out
on Tuesday afternoon that he is getting surgery on his knee.
It was hoped that it was going to be a
short term injury, that he was going to be ready
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right when short term injured reserve like came up in
a few weeks and then a change of pace here
from Ian Rappaport, and yeah, they lose their dude, Travis
Hunter for the rest of the season. Such a bummer
for a guy that we kind of thought was going
to be a main character of this season. Just hasn't
worked out that way, I.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Know, and I think we were all right and fair
to be as excited as we were about him. I
think the Jaguars still I don't bemoan them or criticize
them for being as excited as they were to draft
this guy. I know it, you know, insides, groans in
hindsight and all of that, because it's totally turned out,
completely different than I think the highest of expectations on
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Travis Hunter were, and maybe some expectations even unfairly placed
on him by the organization when they were so excited
to bring him in. And you know, he's changing football
and all of these things. But I think he still can.
I just think it's a really tough start to season.
Greg looks really grumpy right now.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, yeah, this this makes me grumpy. I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, I couldn't tell if it was what I was saying,
or you're watching something.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's a common thing the people feel.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm already feeling great. I'm going to look at call rest.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Greg faces something Colleen's brought up many times on this show.
I had to face at the people that would have
any sort of impatience with Travis Center.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I'm not greed at all.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
This was always going to take time to figure out
what his his actual life was going to be in
the NFL, with his jobs plural and I still think
it will be jobs plural in the NFL. I also
don't think if we were going to read the tea
leaves backwards, not as surprising, maybe just hidden really well,
because for all the optimism in the start, they did
still go out and trade for Jacobe Myers, So I
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you know, I still like feel like that maybe telegraphed
a little bit of what the situation was, even though
I do think they have a plan for him long
term as well.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And it's just such a bummer too, because he had
his best game before he was injured, so we finally
started to see him kind of blossom and bloom and
his confidence come out a little bit more, and he
was supposed to be the focal point, or at least
that's what they were saying after the bye week, and
now we don't get to see that. And also Greg's face, yes,
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it is, it's something that plagues everyone who does the
show with him because you don't know if he is
reacting to what you're saying, to what he's thinking, to
something that he's seeing on his computer, something that Eric
is saying to him, and a lot of times it's such.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
A pleasant face though it's so pleasant so much shame it.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Will sidetrack you sometimes, right, I'm like, I'm gonna wrap
this up.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know, I am miss focking. Should we stop
to out?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I get mocked for it at home sometimes today I
actually thinking with me, what a great drop. I love
that drop, and it's it is a lot for my
family to bear. But yet Emmica was making fun of
me this morning because I was making some face to
something responding to what I imagine myself saying in this
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segment that's coming up later on the show, because it
was just you know, wow, why not Wow? Travis Hunters
gotta be fine. Give me all your Travis Hunters stock, Okay, plenty.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm still so excited about him.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's a five year rookie contract, right, and I think
to make that sort of trade, and I still believe
it what I thought when they made the trade, Like
the idea is for him to be in the Jacksonville
Jaguars Ring of Honor whatever it is that they do,
and it's a long term process. But I think he
showed immediately he is absolutely an NFL cornerback. The movement
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skills are there for him to be an NFL receiver.
But it definitely was obvious that that took longer to
pick up. Let's talk a little bit about Matt Lafleur
coming off that rough Monday night game. I thought it
was really interesting right after the game, your colleague Matt
Schneidman of The Athletic asked him how he felt in
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terms of whether he was coaching for his job now
in this season.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I'll leave that for everybody else to decide. I'll just
focus on the day to day and trying to do
I feel like you're always coaching for everything in this league.
You know, that's just my mindset.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
That's always been that way. You know, you can't ever.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Exhale. You got to always be pushing, and that's just
my mindset. So and that will be my mindset until
they tell me not to coach anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Usually we don't, you know, just do a press conference
as an item of news. But it does get to
something we started to talk about on the show yesterday
that the Green Bay residents, the Packers fans, they're not happy.
And then in this article by Schneidman kind of alludes
to the fact that hey, there is a new team president.
There ed policy they did not give the contract extension
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to Matt Lafleur or Brian Gudakhantz the GM before the season,
So next year they would be entering a contract year,
which in coaching GM circles usually means this year is
really the contract year. Fascinating, it feels a little bit overreactionary,
but I get it. They're a team that has really
high expectations, well.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Dedably high expectations, and with ed Policy coming over, I
think we have to remember, like some of the moves
that they made immediately, they've made it clear they're not
going to be the same old Green Bay Packers. They're
not going to be a team that is very very
good but stay is very very good without transcending into
great to Super Bowl for quite some time at this point.
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And so that's where when you see someone who you
know at leak circles, they talk about at Policy having
sort of an aggressive mindset of what he wants to do,
and that actually really fits Matt Lafleur that in a
way because of some of the way that Gudikins has
doubled down, tripled down on certain talent traits and really
been able to identify certain players. Also, could you know,
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define him too, and it certainly defines the moves that
they made, whether it was drafting Matthew Golden, but then
also going out and trading for Micah Parsons, really pushing
their chips in under. You know, this new team president
obviously they have no ownership overhead, so this person becomes extremely,
extremely important within the organization. At the same time there
is really a lot of frustration with this offense. There
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also is extreme praise and a name starting to circulate
about the defense, and that is Jeff Hafley, who is
going to be a head coaching candidate in this cycle.
And you know, started out, you know, a little bit shaky,
adding new personnel, losing personnel in terms of the defense,
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brought this defense along to improve over the last couple
of weeks in an extraordinary amount adjustments being made, getting
the most out of certain players. And I think that
that's also something that complicates this is all of the
noise of praise on one side of the ball. Well,
you have an offensive head coach and his offense does
not look good. And I think that that just adds
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to this tightness in the amount of pressure that's coming
out of Green Bay right now.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And Ed policy is also mentioned that he doesn't want
to coach in a lame duck situation, so that would
mean that this decision needs to be made sooner rather
than later. And the slow starts on offense are just
becoming a trend. I know, against the Eagles, that was
a defensive battle and we haven't seen a shutout in
the first half in years and years. But before that
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against the Panthers, they had only scored seven points in
the first half and it seems like that is sort
of an issue now that is trending.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And I think too, and I know Matt Lafleur a
little bit. I'd worked on a massive project with him
a couple of years ago, and he's brilliant, right, He's
absolutely brilliant. He is a coach who if he were
not going to be with that organization anymore, other teams
are running, not walking, to go bring him in to
their building and try to lock him in long term.
And his resume is incredible. With the Packers in terms
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of the double digit win seasons, everything becomes different. Though,
when you have made a statement as an organization, which
they did with the Micah Parsons trade, that they believe
that they are a Super Bowl contending team. Your offense
cannot look like this if you're a super Bowl contending team.
And here lies the double edged sword of getting into
that level of contention. If all of a sudden something
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does not look right, it becomes the finger that's sticking
out of the fist when you're punching right. That's the
one that gets broken.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's something to keep an eye on here.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But it's also I think people just overacting to the moment.
Like their tenth in offense this year, they're eighth in defense.
Defense has actually been like a little bit disappointing, like overall,
like we're coming off this last week where you're watching
that game and that was an incredible performance, Like the
week before they could not get off the field against
the Carolina freaking Panthers, Like watching that game back, like
it was just as much the defense, if not more
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against Carolina. And so I just think it's it's overreacting
considering he's one of the best coaches in terms of
just win percentage in the history of the NFL, and
Jordan loved him. Make a lot of sense together. But
I don't doubt any of the reporting. They haven't been
as good this year and if, for whatever reason it
really went south the rest of the way, Yeah, he
would be really attractive.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And you look at him on paper, I don't if
you look at it from afar and you look into
one paper, this conversation is asinine, right, But at the
same time, like the dynamics of the conversation are what
we're trying to explain here, not necessarily his record, his percentage,
which are unarguable and undebatable in my opinion, right, but
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the dynamics of that of that organization right now, and
the pressure that's the thing that I don't think people
are capturing enough, the enormous amount of pressure week over
week over week that is condensing and condensing the atmosphere
there showing it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He's showing it the way he's acting and the way
that he looks and look Guda Kan. It wouldn't be
shocking either if they both got sent away, if Lafleur did,
because Aaron Banks, like that was their huge move this offseason,
you know, before Michael Parkson, Aaron Banks, He's kind of
been a disaster for their offensive line. They're pushing the
chips in. I just look at it as like, yeah,
the context does matter that at one point in that game,
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it's like, you don't have Tucker Craft, you don't have
Romeo Dobs, you don't have j Red, you don't have
Elton Jenkins. Like those are the guys you would make
like a top the list of the most important players
on their offense. All Right, we talked about Joe Shane
and Brian Dabole on Monday, so everyone check out that
that breaking news episode we had. I did just want
to close the circle because at the time that we taped,
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we weren't entirely sure that Joe Shane was going to stay.
Although Ian Rappaport, as he does, pretty much knew and
said on the show that he fully expected Joe Shane
to stay. And yes, the GM just thirty minutes like
after we tape that. I hate when that happens. It
was it was announced in a press release, but I
thought this was very funny calling and very telling. When
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they sent the tweets out announcing that Dave Ball is gone.
They take a big section of the press release and
they put it out on Twitter, and I noticed that
they stopped the section of the press release that went
out on Twitter right at the point where they announced
how much they believe in Joe Shane and that Joe
Shane is going to help them pick the next coach,
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and that Joe Shane has done a good job building
a young nucles because they're not stupid, they know that
Giants fans are gonna think this is a half measure
and Joe Shane hasn't really done much of a good job.
It was Joe Shane's pick to hire Brian Dable, and
more than anything, it was Joe Shane going into this
offseason that was like, no, we need to keep Dable
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and Shane Bowen one more year. Was Dabe's decision to
keep Shane Bowen, but he really pushed to keep Dable
one week so they knew the fans would not be
happy with that. So it's like, you cut that part off.
Its a little social media strategy.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well yeah, and that was very strategic on their parts,
So good job by them.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I just thought it was so interesting because for
up until, like even just a few weeks ago, it
seemed like the two of them, Joe Shane and Brian
Dable were like a package deal and that they were
both in this together and that no matter what happened,
it would either be both like all or nothing, and
then one week you all of a sudden heard ooh,
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Brian Daball not sure about him, and it was just
like then the following week he was gone.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So it escalated quickly. The fracture.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Chaos is a ladder, so is uh what happened?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
So is like the workplace.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And I think one of the as you get older,
you realize, like, oh, one of the biggest skills to
succeeding in life for a large swath of people are
people that can attach themselves to positions of power.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yes, that's what I did to you.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Gret does not explain everything.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Good coattail around here.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Hold On doesn't explain everything, doesn't even necessarily explain most things,
like talent matters. There's a lot that goes into it,
you know. But in the NFL, and I think in
probably a lot of workplaces, there are a lot of
people that are good to attaching themselves to power. And
so Joe Shane is is John Mayra's guy, the owner,
and he's going to stay.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Little sized, medium coat tails say.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
The small, the small if I'm not a small, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Do love his shirt.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Small, I know that's a really good shirt, Greg color,
good text.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's a pop and I'm waiting for sweater weather and
it's just like not arriving if I see it's over seventy,
to make it happen. Like if it's still over seventy,
I'm gonna be dressing like it's the summer. That's the
beauty of Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Come join us.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Paid for it by the Los Angeles City Council. Last
item of news, Last couple. Dan Quinn is taking over
as defensive coordinator in Washington. So like Dan Campbell, it's
the week of Dan's yeah in Detroit. Who's not taking
over as offensive coordinator exactly, but is taking over as
the play caller. He's trying to do something. Also, Deron Pain,
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we didn't mention this on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That's my fault.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Was thrown out of Sunday's game for punching a mon
Ross Saint Brown with an empty fist. Maybe we did
talk about that now that I think, well, just like
I mean, hitting a helmet, hitting a helmet with a
closed fist is just the dumbest thing you can you
can possibly do because it's only going to hurt yourself
and it's going to cost you a week's salary, which
for Deron Payin, who makes a lot of money, is
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like close to a million dollars. I mean, that's a
preposterous thing to lose for hurting your own hand. But
he has been suspended and that is upheld, so he
is not going over to Madrid. Neither is Jaden Daniels.
Neither is Trey Amos, who has a fractured ankle. So
the vibes are down horrendous in Washington, and the Steelers'
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vibes they're confusing. We'll get to them in a second.
But I do like the fact that they signed a
Santi Samuel Jr. To their practice squad. I'm surprised Santi
Samuel Jr. Couldn't get a better contract than that, but
he's coming off of a spinal fusion surgery. I really
thought he was a good player for the Chargers when
he was at his best, so good luck to him.
He kind of fits what they're going to do. Let's
get to the second.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I've noticed you're composing your face very carefully since the opening.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I definitely am not composing my face any differently. I
promise there's a lot going on on this head right now,
But that's not one of them.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
We're in your psyche though you always are in we
live there and in the coattail.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Will I live here?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You know, in.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Some world, I'm always in the Chris Westling podcast. I mean,
we keep going, might as well take a break at this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
There is the love language that I love that I'm
used to thank you thrown in Colleen voice. So this
was a great idea by Eric. Shout out to executive
producer Eric Roberts. If this segment doesn't work, yeah, it's
not all on you, Eric. We bear some responsibility, but
you're like the coach. You're like Matt Lafleur right now,
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and someone out there is ed policy watching this and
hoping that it all works, and we got to make
it work. We're the players. We're going to describe each
team in five words or less. I think it's that simple,
and we're going to go through. We assigned division by division,
but I wanted to be equal, so at the end
we're just going team by team, so so that no
one felt like they had an extra division or anything.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And you actually went back and like fixed it too.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I did.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I messed it up at first.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I don't know what happened with the first one, but
you know in yours it was quality was right there
in the forefront.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, so should I get us going? Yes, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Let's do it all right, Let's start with the NFC West. Okay,
we'll go there for the Arizona Cardinals. And this yes
is describing each team in five words or less. It's marveson.
That's it. We're done for the day. Fire A wrap on,
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Greg Fire, Matt Lafleur, Sorry, ed so great, Eric, Uh,
you know, the guy you chose to be in charge
ultimately couldn't handle it, and your segment's gonna fail. The
Arizona Cardinals Marvin Harrison, Senior in charge.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I love that. That's great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I don't know if you noticed a couple of weeks ago,
how he just said, I can't watch this offense.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
This is not this is not all what I'm used to.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And immediately they're like, okay, we're gonna change our franchise
quarterback and change the entire director.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mentioned it on our pregame show, but like, I
got nothing from it. So I don't know how many
people actually he was listening to what his Dad.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Was saying, yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't some random podcast.
He was like, no, you're just gonna tell ESPN dot com. Okay,
the Rams personnel so heavy, Jordanikey.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh my god, okay, cool, I love this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Great job, Eric.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
We've wad a nice recovery here, Greg.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We Yeah, we have a whole social video about it
that really explains that. You know, it just gets you
going in the morning when you see that thirteen personnel
and that those tight ends and full backs and oh man,
wide receivers blocking oh man, the forty.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Nine ers ouch oof oh why Ash?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's five words, five exactly five five words.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, not the over so good job.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think that was pretty self explaina to her. You
wouldn't think that they were six and four based on that,
But I just I do think that kind of explains
their entire season.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And then the Seahawks Dom Sam d v o A.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Darlens. This one's like a little tricky, tricky, but it's
not like the normal Sam that we've seen before. It's
like Dom Sam.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No, I know you're saying, I'd love for you to
not explain this.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
No, I don't need to I think everyone everyone knows
it doesn't like a dom Sam. You're up next. Oh god,
NFC East cool?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
All right, gang, here we go. So I'm gonna start.
Are we going in alphabetical order?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Do it by the city name that that'll help out,
because all right, look, do it by whatever is it.
I'll give I'll give you time. I'll give everyone behind
the scenes time. We're putting up graphics. It's on the
NFL channel. The words dom Sam and me just saying
OUCHI or whatever is is making it onto the NFL channel.
And then you can also watch us on YouTube. And
(21:10):
I've been noticing the subscribers they've been they've been picking
up a little bit. So just like, subscribe, support the
show and support what Colleen is.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Ok here we go.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
The Dallas Cowboys first up here. Five words are filing
a missing Parsons report.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I love a pun.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Thank you. I feel like that really doesn't need I
think everything.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, they are very disappointing this year, and the defense
is a massive reason why. Okay, so next one is
the New York Giants. I can do alphabetical order straight
off of my head. Okay, you can't sit with us,
and that is from Mean Girls and we all it's
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it's a couple of different reasons why I sit with us,
because there are so many players that are injured that
there's just not room.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Also, Brian daball, you can't sit with us.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, oh you're out.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So that's the Giants.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
So normally I would I would hear that and think,
like they're the cool.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Kids, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like, but no, like literally, you can't sit with us.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, they don't go home.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You've been dismissed.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
They don't seem they don't seem that cool right now,
Like that's not a tabe.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But they were like I actually was liking the Giants
for a second.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And I hated the fact that I was liking the
Giants for a second because Jackson Dart and camp Skataboo
were super fun and they were exciting and they were
ridiculous and they were such bros.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I hate it that I was like into it.
So I'm going to have a problem going forward, I think,
with this team. But for now, yeah, you can't sit.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well did you see that the animation that Malik Neighbors
happened to post on his Instagram story overnight. I wouldn't
have seen this either, but now it's getting passed around,
so we'll see if we can get permission to it.
But it just was about the difference of of like
what Jackson Dart is like, you know, as a home
at home and then maybe when he's out with the
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boys spoke so fun.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
We'll see later, all right.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Okay, I recommend everyone go check that out.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Perfect the Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles, Torn like Natalie and Bruglia.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
The Great Natalie and Bruglia had such a banger of
a song.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm torn because I love the defense right now, and
I really like all of the moves that Howie Roseman
made and Jalen Phillips adding him back into the fold
with Vic Fangio. He played so well against the Packers.
I'm really into the defense right now. The offense, though,
is so inconsistent. I don't really know what to think.
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So I am literally torn on this team. Yes, they
have the record and they're getting the wins, but I'm
trying to protect myself from myself.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Don't they feel like though this is a team and
organization that they almost need. They need it like this,
they need the chaos, their love language is like an
ugly regular season where everyone's starting to doubt them and
then suddenly, like at the end, it just ends up
being perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I hate when you're right. You're right. That's my love
language too. Chaos. It's the only way I can thrive.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You need deadlines, yes, chaos, you need everything falling apart,
and then you're just like, Okay, we figure it out
right now while everyone is at their wits end and
you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Maybe that is their secret sauce.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Can I could I like bring you back to last
season around this tide and like how they were thinking,
And then can I bring you back to the final
three weeks of the season in twenty seventeen when they
won the Super Bowl and everyone just assumed not only
is the season over, but every like the most beautiful
Eagle season of all time is completely ruined and there
was zero hope left. And then they just, you know,
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won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It was like, Okay, yeah, how in the world is
Nick Foles and this Eagles offense going to play against
the Minnesota Vikings defense?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And then yeah, they did it.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, but that's also not counting the year in between.
All of that just flapped and the chaos, just like
it closed in on them. That happens, okay, And the
last one in the division, the Washington Commanders Fix You
by Colturep and I just you know it's it's a
song about helping someone through a hard time when they're
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feeling very low and sort of crashed out. And I
was looking up the lyrics and it's kind of like
right on the nose when you try your best but
you don't succeed, when you get what you want, not
what you need, when you feel so tired but you
can't sleep, you're stuck in reverse.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know if they're getting what they
want unless that's like a.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Okay, well so in my mind what they got what
they want when they finally signed Terry McLaurin to the deal,
but it was like a little maybe too late.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Still so annoyed by that.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Personally, right, And they got it last year to what
they wanted and this but not what they would cost, right, Yeah,
it hurts all right, Jordan, you're up with the NFC North.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Okay, So NFC North, We're gonna start with Chicago Bears.
They're good. Is getting better you guys. A reference to
Ben Johnson's thing that he's chanced with all of his
players in the locker room scrum after every win, good
better best. Never let it rest until you're good gets
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better and you're better gets best.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
The Chicago Bears this wait that's up in his locker room.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
He chants it every time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's right, I have.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's shel Silverstein.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I believe, and is it?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Never let it rest until your good gets better and
your better gets best. Chicago Bears, they're good is getting better?
You guys, hope is here?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I do like it.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It just goes to show you can say whatever like
you want.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And with these motivational slogan, as long as they can,
like call a play, you'll get you'll get by with it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
If it's catchy and you can scream it with veins
popping out of your neck, it works.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
If he's Manning has showed us that motivating Manning, you
can really make anything, turn anything into a slogan.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Is that sponsored by whatever? Commercials?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But if they uh definitely not progress?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Is it progressed?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Maybe it is?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I like the backup.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Probably if that's one of those things that if they
were two and seven, everyone would be mocking them for it,
but since they're winning, then it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Detroit Lions Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell versus offensive regression, which
to me is the physical embodiment of Dan Campbell as
the spider man who's like holding the two trains as
the trains are crashing, and it's Dan Campbell like for
real offensive aggression and his little glasses are on his
face and all he's straining to try to pull this
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offense back into what he knows it could be. We'll
see if it works.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
That was more than five words, though, Well, I'm explaining it. Oh, okay,
did you miss my?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Did you miss my?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Greg?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
The word I?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
There was no There was no stopping. I just just
kept going.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, I'm trying to keep the pace. You know, we
were told to keep this quick.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Oh we were told it's nationwide.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
By the way, got it on your side, Green Bay
Packers too much talent for this, doesn't need explanation. Minnesota
Vikings one personality with multiple moods.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hmmm, that does need explanation. I want I want some
one personality with multiple moods. So is that I would
interpret that as Kevin O'Connell, who seems like a complex man.
Maybe there's lots of sides to Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
I would think so.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But I think as a team, we know what this
team is supposed to be. We know what they came
into the year projecting themselves as, and all of a
sudden you're getting this extreme whiplash depending on which version
of himself the quarterback is every single and so you
do have a purported team identity, right, yeah, but you
never know actually what mood you're going to be in
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that day, or what mood the quarterback is in, or
what version of the quarterback you get. So one personality
with multiple moods, and it's like bipolar and being Yeah,
dealing with someone who's bipolar.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Kevin O'Connell, who always presents very like under control and
good guy in public, you've started to see like the
cracks a little bit, like he's starting to get like
just a little bit annoyed, lafleur, like the pressure there
in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
All right, NFC sou that was it for that division?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, okay, first up, we have doing the cities here.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The Carol Lane of the Atlanta Falcons, gotcha, everybody, I.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Do like that it's doubling as a test for can
you alphabetize?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
See this is why I was stressed two minutes before
we started.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Okay, Atlanta Falcons starting with the A's
here Southern hospitality. Why because of their inability to sustain drives.
They are really showing their opponents, So they're hospitality.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You did it in two words. Yeah, that's gonna be
tough to top.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
There's Oh, don't worry. There's some ones that are coming
up that are just one word.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
There's only one way.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Are you? Are you not having a stop watch out
for the pauses?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Greg or you She gave a good pause.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I'll accept that pause except that pause.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay. Next up, we have the Carolina Panthers Cats out
of the bag.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh, because you know, they're coming off of the three
game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And I feel like, if cat's out of the bag,
it's like, no, they're not coming back in. It's gonna
stay bad. It's almost like a prediction.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I kind of hope that that's not true, but I
felt like the cat was in the bag. They had
it in the bag when they were winning.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Maybe it's Schrodinger's cat. You don't know if they're alive
or dead?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Oh god, pound in all right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay. Then we have the New Orleans Saints. Awe, shucks,
I love a pun.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, he's shown some promise and they got their folks
their first road win.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah in week ten, so I'm happy for I.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Want more pot Yeah. It's like that was like a
nice little pat on the head for them.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Shucks.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
And then we have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who this
one for me. It's a little pirty, like an rmydy
type deal.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Okay, are you are you coming up with it right now?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Okay, not at all.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
But they are about to go into the toughest part
of their schedule, so I was thinking, like along the
terms of a pirate and a stormy see, and they
have to weather the storm, but they still have a
favorable situation, so it's almost like they're an annoyed pirate.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But it is our matie, right is that? Isn't that?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
That's the that's the phrase is R matie? Yes, okay, So.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I've just never spelled it out before, so I wasn't
surious how you did spell it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I would I would spell I would spell a R,
but like six rs right, r mate. Yeah, so, and
how does that describe the team? Again?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Describes them because you know they had the recent loss obviously,
but and all of the they've weathered the storm of
all of the injuries that they've dealt with, and now
they're about to go into a tough part of their schedule.
But they've gotten through this so far that now our
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matie wait and see what happens next.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
We might we might workshop that one going the break.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, a lot of might need help, guys.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, my mine as well. I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying
this second mean so much. Eric, we're halfway through.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, is this going as fare?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
You're in charge? No, I think it's going at a
good pace.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Can you just give us, like your halftime speech slash
evaluation of how we're doing before.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
We I'm involved in this way too much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
You guys are doing great, okay, especially the alphabetizing live
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Actually, thank you, Eric. I like everyone has their own.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
And we're gonna do the rest of the league, and yes,
we'll talk a little t NF at the end of
the show.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
We have some breaking news here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Whoa, what is it? Colleen Wolf was making the Buccaneers
slogan as she went, which is totally fine.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Listen, here is the situation.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm a terrible liar, but I also am such a preparer,
and when I looked at my notes, I realized.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That was the only team that I just did not
have one for. And I had all of the reasoning
but not the actual phrase.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So can I submit like shiver me timbers sing instead
in place of that?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
I think you did well with it in the end,
but it was un Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think everyone knew that I was lying, and I
would just like to say that is a characteristic of
a good person. I'm a bad liar and I have
come around to admit this, and I apologize to the
listeners for.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
What a saved.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's like someone who's in a job interview, like what's
your biggest weekness? I worked too hard, you know, I'm
just perfectionist. I don't have a bad work balance. That
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I'm glad to get that off.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
The same thing happened to me too.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Our our producer on the NFL channel side Quab asked
me what my Steelers one was on the way, and
I was like, oh wait, that's the one I forgot.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Thank you so much. It happens to the best of us.
And by saying that, I was saying the best of
us is me.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Another interview trick, by the way, who's a little subtle
trick of phrase there.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, let's do a NFC North It's my turn,
and I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens to start,
and the phrase would be feeling alive closer to death. Wait,
because every Colleen show that we do together that is
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five words.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It seems longer.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I mean, don't you You know you hear that with people,
whether it's something that happens in their life or something
they go through, like getting a little closer to death.
It's every Tuesday gonna it's gonna make you feel alive death.
And for John Harbaugh and this Ravens team, you know,
falling to one and five at this point, like they've
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done the regular season thing, if like one m VPS,
they've won a lot of games, it's like to just
feel a little more alive. You had to fall to
one in five.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yes, you feel to the brink and back. You have
seen the worst. You know what, it's like and now
it's like, ah, almost like a near death experience.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's where I was going.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I could have just said a near death experience, but
I guess you went your way.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Well, I like my way better.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know what, we should make this a collaborative effort.
Maybe go back to the box real quick and.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
The words are calamitous, wretched, ruinous, ooh, pathetic defense.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Wow, pathetic seems personal. I don't know why. Ruinous is
an amazing word.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Ruinous that's ruined. It's ruined so many things. It's ruined
Sundays for those fans. It's like ruin the excitement over
Joe Burrow possibly returning. It's just it's just horrible. I know,
the Cleveland Browns, the Curse of Deshaun Watson. Don't think
much explanation really needs, but that really explains the last
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four years. And then the Steelers, which I did come
up with after Quab reminded me, which is the same,
different year.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Just like, so, not only did you come up with one,
you also gave Quab extra work.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Sure that's true, but I said it to him and
he said, yeah, that's perfect. And that's only four words,
it's like, oh, Mike Tomlin, your team is getting out
scored overall, but you have a winning record and you
seem like just targeted for losing that first weekend of
the wild Card once again. West of this same stuff
they weirdly have. God, they're too interesting to be put
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into the West of His spot. They usually get. I
feel like now that Saturday night in the C spot
where it's like good ratings, but they probably won't give
you a good game. All right, Jordan, you're up AFC East.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
AFC East dream with me here, people, Okay, I'm gonna
start with the bills and imagine the this to the
popular LIT song their own Worst Enemy?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Mmm, what's the popular LIT song?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Is?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
That?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Is li lits the art list?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Yeah, but well what's the actual song?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
That's the song?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Surprise to me, I am my own worst ed. There
you go, because every now and then I kick the
living out of me. See I tried that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I tried that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't know if we can.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Even keep that and now I got it right now,
Actually we can't.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We're gonna have to play a song.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
That's because it was so closely in tune origin to
the original.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But yeah, watch out.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We're gonna Jordan and I are going to go off
and start our own band right to the top of
the charts.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
We don't play any instruments, but it's fine.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Play like anyone that was on the Warped tour. You're
gonna be covering.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh man, I love the war.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, I mean this is pretty self explainatory. They they
truly are. They have been their own It's even the
Chiefs anymore. They are their own worst enemy. Okay, the Patriots.
I'm fully aware I'm about to lose any cool points
I may have ever garnered with either of you two,
including everybody in the in the booth as well.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
A setup. I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Let me put on my Galadriel voice, whispers of a
nameless fear. Okay, you won't get it. You're doing the
face Lord of the Rings. Reference listeners. Listeners not only
will get this, yes, I will get messages about it,
and I will get love from them. I don't need
it from you, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm no, I'm very intrigued that the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yes, a shadow rises in the east. What the old
the old evil has returned?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Mmm, I hate the old evil.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Yeah, Patriot, but it's like, uh, it's like the Old
Evil with like some new paint.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Though. It's like that little scene, Yeah, when Dave Portnoy
is in the owner's box.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I think we can call it the Old Evil. Okay, Mike,
I was.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Like, I can't enjoy a touchdown from Drake May you
gotta immediately go to Portnoy. It's like it makes it tough.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
More movie references on the way the Miami Dolphins, How
you like them Apples? Because when I saw the photo
of Mike McDaniel in his car with his giant watch
hanging out the window, driving past the bills bar I
immediately thought of that scene in Goodwill Hunting when Will
slaps the number on the glass and says, how you
like them apples?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh, I got a number.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
How you like them apples?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's so good too? And then he like they asked
him about it on Monday, and he did the Mike
McDaniel thing where he just gave a total non like
a non answer that did confirm it, but did it
in such a confusing way that you couldn't even totally
laugh at that. You couldn't quite use it as like
a sound bite on shows like this where he said
something like AI is real, So that could have happened.
(40:58):
It was like, hey, who are you? But I do
love that he did that. More coaches and players just
like stunting on their opposition even when they're losing. Bat like,
enjoy the wins when you're losing.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, I never mind it. Jets super earnestly want to
say this, just learn how to win. They're loaded already
on draft picks. I don't want them to worry about
draft order at this point. I just want them as
an organization to understand what it actually means and takes
to win football games and get into that habit before
they go about this full on rebuild.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
And we'll be talking about them shortly. Little T and
F last time in primetime for the Jets this year,
And is that the end of the AFC East? It
is losing track all right. Now we're gonna go We're
gonna go team by team here. Okay, we've divided up Broncos.
You have Colleen.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Okay that John Denver is full of And that's five
words because I didn't say the last one. But it's
because well, first of all, I don't know if anyone
thought that the Broncos would go on the run that
they're on. Just looking at their record, however, it's kind
(42:08):
of like when I look at the wins and you
watch the games and you see the way that the
offense is so inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Are they full of we don't know, we're really uh oh,
win's a win though, but really using that button, I know.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, it's true, but yeah, so I just feel like
they obviously rely on their defense so much and we
don't know what the if the offense can sustain playing
at this level.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
But they are eight and two now, So.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Big week, Chiefs Broncos. We'll talk about it on Wednesday.
You have the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Mahomes' last wild card twenty twenty one. Oh and I
know it's a confusing because it's only five words, right,
so I only working five words. He's only not had
a first round by twice, so.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
He played in the wildcard round in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, so we're technically thinking about the Chiefs possibly being
a wildcard the wildcard team because of the way the
AFC is set up right now, it's it would be
really weird for him to not have a first round by.
It feels like forever, because it has been forever.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
I am bringing this up. I would not be able
to have remembered this off the top of my head.
But yes, they were.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
They played the Steelers in the wildcard round and then
they beat the Bills and they got to have it
at home because I think there were multiple upsets in
the divisional round, so they still got to have Maybe
it wasn'tny multiple upsets, but they basically just didn't get
to buy and they beat the Bills and then yeah,
they lose to the bank.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
It feels like so many lifetimes and you know what
it will be a tougher rountis.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
That I put myself into so I didn't have to
google Taylor Swift lyrics guys to try to make a
tailor swift pun. I felt like that was going to
be the obvious thing. Instead, I went overly complicated.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Oh what's the Taylor Swift pund that's on me?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I don't have any.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I didn't want to do.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
She's really great with her puns and things, and I
feel like that would have I wanted to challenge myself
and then I just set us all through mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Here the Raiders. The Raiders are I thought it was great.
I think it's a good point. It's salient about the
different path the Chiefs are going on right now, the
Raiders familiar path forlorn, melancholy, hopeless Pete. That's it, just
like what do we need with like a sad peak,
Carrol Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Nobody wants it, nobody likes it, nobody needs.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
It, Like if I could have fit, like I don't
belong here anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
That was what I was thinking of the it doesn't
even go here, just it's just said Chargers calling.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Okay, Chargers. Thunderstruck. That's one word.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
And I feel thunderstruck by the Chargers this year.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And knew that they would be good, and I knew
that they would figure things out. But I just like
every time Jim Harball has a microphone near him, it's
it's fun and shocking and amazing, and I'm just I
like the vibes of this team.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And they've had every reason to not be seven and
three right now.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
All these are that they've dealt with and still look
at them. I love it.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Texans Jordan Davis Mills to the rescue, My god, I.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Hope not we got any c J. Stroud News that
was great.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Last week it was great.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I had to really stretch that one.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
That was that was good. The Tones, it was like
Dan Campbell with his Tones talking about the play call.
I'm calling the plane.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I mean, I'll do it. I'll stick my neck out.
I think they're going to make the playoffs. Look at you,
let's do the Jaguars. I came up with two with
the Jaguars and then never decided which which I want.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We'll tell you which one's better.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Oh, I can do both. Yeah about that, I got
the side in the moment.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
We will judge them.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Actually, you know what, the second one is just boring.
The Jags messy fun no longer fun. I mean right,
They've just kind of been a bummer to watch. We
named them our messy fun team of the Year, and
then they went out the next week and just had
this totally bizarre win over the Chiefs that was so
far the peak of the Jaguar scene. But you know what,
(46:13):
they've got time. They're literally still in the playoffs as
of today. Over the Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
It sounds like a college relationship. Yeah, massy fun and
not fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, like when you see his bathroom for the first time.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Oh my god, what has happened in here?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
What?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How old is this? How long has that been sitting there?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Speaking of young men disappointing you. My other one was
Trevor leaves us bleach. My other one was Trevor leaves
Us wanting more. That's more said, all right.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Colts, Colts, the limit does not Existoo, two mean girls
references in one show. I know, I know, Yeah, the
limit does not exist for the Colts team because they're
going all of the way.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Been some warning signs the last few weeks, but I
do like that they went into the it's always big,
get into the bye with the win. That was big.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
And finally Jordan wrapping up with the Titans.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Are you guys right for this?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I've never been more ready.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
The Titans are still playing. Oh that's right, five words exactly.
At least they're in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
They have like a they have like a cool number
one overall pick playing quarterback. And yes, they they might
be the most forgettable team right now in the NFL,
but they might have the number one pick again two
straight years.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Not a great sign. Jets also in the mix for
the number one overall pick and I'm going to say it.
I think that was a success. Describe your teams in
five words or I want I want my Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
One back.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay, yeah, there's always changes the books. One back after
the fact, Eric, are you happy with it? We're getting
the thumbs out.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
It was good. Good job, guys.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They felt like a little hesitation.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Yeah, they felt like it was good. Felt like we
can be better. Like edge on the ship here, guys.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
That was Dan Campbell denying his plays.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
The New York Jets are playing the New England Patriots
this week. And before the season, if you had told
me that it would be a twelve and a half
point spread, oh crazy. I wouldn't have believed it. But
the Patriots have won seven straight games. They're coming off
I think their best win of the season against the Bucks.
(48:34):
The Jets will not have Garrett Wilson in this game.
They will not have starting cornerback Aziree Thomas in this game,
who has a concussion. And I was thinking, actually, this
could be a tricky spot for the Patriots because the
Jets have played better over the last month.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
They've been the competitive team.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
They've also won, you know, the last couple of games,
and defensively especially they have turned it around and have
been mostly respectable, but losing Garrett Wilson especially is a
big bummer for this team.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, because they're going to have to lean on the
run and Brisall is going to have to go up
against this really good Patriots run defense. So I'm not
sure how they're going to score points because obviously the
Patriots are going to know that they're going to run
the ball, so they're going to stack the box.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
So what do you even do? How do you get
creative in those situations?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And Drake May has been playing so well now going
up against a secondary without Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Will McDonald is also I knew I was forgetting someone
else that is absolutely crucial to what they do. And
I think Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson, it's only been
a couple games together, Like, that's a really good edge duo.
I think they should be happy that they didn't trade
those guys away. And Will McDonald's been playing well, but
they don't have a chance like to often play with
(49:54):
the lead and then let those pass rushers go. And
this is a game where, yeah, they might not be
playing with the lead.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah, and the Patriots might be And the Patriots might
be running the ball a lot, which means I would
like to see more Trevion Henderson. We saw really his
explosive playability on full display last week, and I think
there's high potential for that to happen again. I am
so impressed, way more impressed than I thought I would
be with this Patriots defense. I know it was a
(50:21):
place they invested heavily into, and Mike Rabel set about
sort of pruning all of the former Belichick draft picks
and removing them from the roster and then playing his
guys and some of the guys that they went out
and spent money on in free agency. From the front
to the coverage, they are so solid. Even if the
Jets had multiple threats in the passing game, it's it
(50:44):
would be so hard. Christian Gonzalez is playing well. This
front is defending the run extremely well. But they also
are are looking dynamic against the pass too. It's just
they are an entire handful, and it is why I'm
saying they're back. I mean, and they're back. Unfortunately for
the rest of the East, a new dark is rising. Mmmm.
(51:05):
But it was the same dark the whole time, the
same evil.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
It's such a it's such a strange season. And then
and that game was typical of it, Like the running
game was terrible for every run except for two essentially,
and even like their passing game was pretty inconsistent in
that game. But you have Drake May, who as a
(51:29):
second year player just seems beyond his years, and he
is the one who changes the play at the line
of scrimmage to set up Kyle Williams for that insane touchdown,
and that was just like it wasn't even bad defense.
It was just a perfect call against man coverage and
a really incredible throw and some explosive ability from Drake
May and Kyle Williams. And same thing with that fourth
(51:51):
down play. But like their players are just good. But
then you peek behind like the curtain a little bit
and some of the numbers don't totally support what the
eye test tells you, Like they're somehow still twenty ninth
in DVOA on defense because you know they're giving up
drives and they they do tend to give up some
big plays. But I think to your point, Jordan, that
they are improving, that they're a lot better that's including
(52:14):
the entire season of stats. In the last month or so,
they've been much better. I think the offensive line is
getting better too. That that would have been the area
where I'd be concerned, because Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald
have nine quick pressures last week in that Jets game,
like they were awesome. They were the best edge duo
in the league last week. But without Will McDonald like that,
then they can send help to the other side and
(52:34):
there's like less of a route for them to win.
And yet there's something about like the Jets. I'm always worried,
even though that they've handled the Jets over the years,
I'm always worried about the Jets.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
That's their rival.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Look at what we.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
Almost like a team of pesky, optimistic upstarts could upset
dynastic evil. You know, I want to want you to
make a movie about that.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, they might start justin fields in this game, but
they might start to Taylor. They would not take any questions.
And by day I mean Aaron Glenn on Monday, I know,
but he was like he was just like, stop with
the quarterback questions.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
I don't want any quarterbacks. It's like that.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's gotta be a question kind of a big deal,
especially when like you had zero dropback game like Field is.
I think the best way to beat the Patriots though,
is actually have Justin Fields play quarterback and just run
him like they have not unlocked him as a runner.
Has been like a little a little surprising to me.
I guess that's all we got on Jet's Patriots.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
It'll be fun either way.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Sad sad state of affairs, but I do like to
see like the Patriots in primetime with this version of
the Patriots feels.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
New like it does.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
It's like a totally different team.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
I wonder how much waxing Crescent talk we get from
Al on this, you know, depending on how the game
game actions going. Yeah, you know, that's always my favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
They were.
Speaker 5 (53:57):
They were the first team, by the way, only or no.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
One of only three team in twenty five years last
week to have four fifty yard plus plays. So that
was just like a really weird, really like explosive. Yeah,
it's hard to get a fifty yard game in the
NFL with US four, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
The first Patriots team since two thousand early two thousands
have two rookies have recorded explosive play fifty plus yards in.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
The same game.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
And you have Will Campbell, who's getting better at left tackle,
like they are led by their young guys. But it's
just a he's getting better. It's been good better, it's
been solid his favorite. I mean, I wanted armand Membu,
and I would still want armand Membu. Who's on the
other side. The Jets offensive line is playing really well.
They're actually are pieces here. I think for the Jets
fans to get excited about die you never know quarter
(54:42):
because I'm a homer, I think, actually I would take
the Jets to cover that twelve and a half if
nothing else. That's it for today's show. We described the
entire NFL in five words, and we did it so well.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I'd say we crushed that assignment.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
I think we absolutely did. We will be back. It'll
be me Jordan and Patrick Claybonn on the preview show.
Will hit thirteen games this week, Big week.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
Can't wait for it. We will see you on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'll see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Hi,
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