August 28, 2024 • 45 mins
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Evan Silva of Establish The Run to take a look at what we learned from the roster moves that took place on Cutdown Day from around the league (3:00). As well as examining the moves that had fantasy implications such as what does Minnesota's mean for Vikings running backs Aaron Jones and Ty Chandler? (17:30) Next, Gregg is joined by NFL insider Ian Rapoport as they go over some of the latest Cutdown Day moves (34:30) and he shares what moves surprised him (36:15).
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always designated to return
the next day. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm with Evan Silva.
I was thinking back to my days back at Rhoda World.
Cutdown day, a tough day in the NFL for a
lot of players, a compelling day for front offices where
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you're putting together the roster and you're watching the rest
of the league. But I was thinking back to when
I was starting out in this business at Rota World,
and it was a very busy day. You would have
to just watch the transactions and pump them out, you know,
minute after minute you're waiting for the fifty three to
get reported. And who would be with me in the
trenches back then, but Evan Silva. So I thought, no
one better to do this day and go over what
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we find interesting today. How you doing, Evan?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
How's it going? Greg? Yeah? A lot has changed, especially
from the like from a rule standpoint, since those days
used to be like three rounds of cuts, there were
definitely two. Now there's always three.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Three back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now now there's only one. And I remember, like the
night before especially final cuts, like I'd be rooting please
teams like release some cuts early so we could just
start shipping away at them because we knew that the
next day was going to be absolute hell. And the teams,
they were supposed to have all their cuts out by
like four pm or five pm Eastern Time or something
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like that, but they would always be one or two teams.
They wouldn't release their cuts until like hours afterwards. And
by that time we're I'm punch drunk on the internet.
You know, had been blurbing all day waiting for the
freaking Raiders to release.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was always the Raiders, the Raiders in the Seahawks.
But I got to give some props to the Raiders.
Maybe with Tom Tellesco in the building, something changed. They
were one of the first teams out. There are still
a few straggling teams out there, but we'll make sure
they're all covered. We wanted to get going. You're a
busy man, you're running so.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In the blurbs though, I mean I would just take
a flamethrower to the braids, just blasting them for not
releasing their cuts on time. But yeah, we can jump
into this.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember that I love the caustic Silva Blurbs, and
they weren't they weren't labeled with who wrote them, but
you could always tell which one was a Silva blurb.
And yeah, that's how I look at today's show. Look,
there weren't gigantic headlines, just little nuggets. They're different flavors
of these NFL daily shows. We got some big previews
coming up this week, but this is more of a
housekeeping day where we're looking at what happened around the league,
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trying to have our takeaways as we really get ready
for the season. And so yeah, let's just dive right
into it. I could start in a million different places here,
but I'm going to start with OBJ, just because I've
been tracking this story for a while. He was placed
on pup to start the season, and so you mentioned
how the rules have been changing. Evan, pup means you're
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out for four games now you're eligible to return at
that point. You're gonna have to be activated at some
point in there. And the Insiders, of which I'm having
one on later in the show, maybe I'll ask him
about it. Ian Rappaport said, Oh, this was a possible
you know outcome the whole time with Obj, But give
me a break. They weren't saying that publicly. It's pretty
disappointing for them. They really want to run an eleven
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offense here with three wide receivers. They wanted Odell Beckham
to be a big part of the team, and he's
just not going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean, he opened the camp, he opened camp on
active pup though, and he never got obviously, never got
in the practice field. I feel like the Beat writers
were talking about how they would barely even see him
around the facility. I think it could be potentially a
positive for Odell Beckham. He's not gonna have to play
the whole season. When they get him back in week
five or week six or week seven, he's going to
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be healthier than he is now, and at that point
maybe he can join their three receiver set. I think
one guy who's kind of interesting here to see what
kind of a role he can earn, and I think
it's Braxston Barrios is going to open the season as
the number three, but Molik Washington the sixth round pick.
I think it's kind of interesting all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, they're banged up. Jalen Waddle hasn't been healthy, River
Craikcaft hasn't been healthy, and I'm just curious, Well, I
got you, like, what are you viewing for this Dolphins offense?
Because usually they start like a house on fire, but
their offensive line, the receivers are banged up, the running
backs look awesome, Like what's your fantasy outlook right now?
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And yeah, people get over to establish the run. It's
draft season. I got a draft on Wednesday. My kids
have a draft on Friday. Like it's time. It's time
to be to be getting that subscription and getting your
money's worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean, I have Tyreek Hill as a top five
overall pick number three right now in my top one
fifty rankings. You know, seventeen hundred plus yards in both
of his seasons under Mike McDaniel. I'm not too worried
about his injury stuff. And then Jalen Waddle last year
was like a consensus second round pick. This year, you
can get him in the fourth because he's not coming
off as great as season. He was banged up a
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lot last year. But I love him. I love taking
him in the third round. If something were to happen
at Tyreek Kill, Jayalen Wattle is going to win your
fantasy league.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh I like that, so that's the Dolphins on Tuesday.
The Packers started making moves on Monday, including the trade
for Malik Willis from the Titans for a seventh round pick,
and then they cut Sean Clifford, who was their backup
quarterback last year. They also cut my guy from Tulane,
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Michael Pratt. A tough day out here for the Pratt
Pack because there was a report on si dot com
that he might not even get back to the practice squad,
that they want to keep Clifford there. I mean, seventh
round pick out of Pratt. I mean, Malik Willis being
one snap away from playing for a contender is a
little surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I would agree with that former what number he
was supposed to be the number three overall pick and
went in the third round Malik Willis and he just
never showed anything. I mean, obviously he's athletic, he's got
a strong arm, but just in terms of consistency, ball location,
I mean, he just really never put anything together. Even
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in preseason games. He was largely unimpressive.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I know for fantasy AJ Dillon going on injured
reserve for the season, that was a surprise. Yes, it
might be something where they can work out an injury settlement.
At some point he had a stinger and then Marshawn
Lloyd is not on IR, not on POP. He's on
the active roster. I guess he's the backup. I don't
know if he's healthy, Like, what's the fallout there in
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Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Marshall Lloyd has been out for two and a half weeks.
There was actually a report that he would end up
opening the season on a list. Probably it would be
short term IR, but for now he is there. I
think Emmanuel Wilson would be on track to be the
Packers number two running back. This is a player that
maybe the Packers like more than we know. But to me,
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the biggest beneficiary is like they are going to open
the season with Josh Jacobs as a true warhorse behind
a pretty good run blocking offensive line in an offense.
So I think the arrow was pointing up. I think
Josh Jacobs awesome third round fantasy pick with very little
competition in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I love Jacobs. He's very hit or miss. He's kind
of due for a hit year. I would just worry
our producer, Randy's a Packers fan. Here. If I'm Randy,
I mean, you're one injury away from like Emmanuel Wilson
RB one maybe Week one, and one injury away from
Malik Willis. Obviously, everyone you know would be a problem
if you lose your quarterback, but just a little thin
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at those positions. They also cut their draft pick from
a year ago, Andrews Carlson, so they have their new kickers,
Greg Joseph at least for now. And we might as
well say the public service announcement that everyone feels the
need to say this time of year. It's true though
these are not the final rosters. There's going to be
more moves. If there was a team that was going
to pick up a veteran running back, Green Bay would
probably be high on the list. Absolutely another veteran move
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on Tuesday trade. Ernest Jones been tracking this the last
couple of days. The Titans trade for the Rams captain
on defense. Weird. They only had to give up a
pick swap of a fifth and a sixth round pick,
so basically the Rams said we're getting rid of this guy.
We'll take whatever we can get. Shocking to me, because
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like when Aaron Donald retired, he was literally quoted saying
to Ernest Jones, this is your defense now, And like
Ernest Jones is a guy the Rams have you know,
talked up a lot as kind of a leader and everything,
and now he's just gone for nothing. Strange, I think
an undrafted free agent they really like Omar Spates is
gonna start, But just a weird camp for the Rams
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losing a bunch of players and Ernest Jones. It sounds
like maybe he's not one hundred percent healthy or fit
after surgery this offseason, but a good pickup for the
Titans who were not looking good at linebacker.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, Omar Spates went undrafted out of LSU, so you
know every game that he plays in is a huge
million scouts there. You know, I feel like NFL teams
don't usually miss on a guy like that because there's
so much tape on him. But you know, obviously you
look good in training camping. Right now he has slotted
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in as a starter at off ball linebacker.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, they're They're a strange team. I don't know, I
don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They are a strange team. And every year I'm kind
of like, what are they doing? And then you know,
eighty percent of the time it works out.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I think for for fantasy, Pooka Akua's injury is
something to keep an eye on. Cooper Cup has looked
really healthy. I think it remains to be seeing how
Pooka Nikoua comes off this injury. Just because he's back
at practice. We just don't know. So that's a that's
a little worrisome. Like where do you have those two guys?
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I'm going to hit you up for some fantasy nuggets
while we're doing this. Why not, Like, where are you
see in Puoka Cooper go off the board? I would
have said they're nowhere near each other in my mind
a Cup weeks ago and now for value, I might
rather have Cooper Cup just because I'm a little freaked
out about the Pookah injury and how.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
To be I would tend to agree with you. Pooka
Nakula right now though, is my twelfth overall player. But yeah,
I mean I haven't really heard any any substitute, substantive
or positive report on his health since he went down,
which was a while ago. I mean, I'm just not
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really sure I have Cooper Cup like number twenty three
or twenty four overall, But I think that for value,
I mean Pokinakua kind of regularly goes in the first round.
At the end of the first round, I think for value,
I'm leaning toward Cooper Cup right now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm gonna just give my tip here is I'm fading
Pookinakua right now, just based.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
On okay, based on the vibes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'll leave it there. Charles Amena, who is on the
pup list. He is on the Chiefs. He's a he's
a pass rusher. There are a lot of moves for
the Chiefs, so I'm just going to go through the
defending cham By the way, the Titans also cut Caleb Fairley,
who was a first round pick a couple of years ago,
so I thought that one was interesting. He just was
never healthy enough to stay on the field for the Chiefs.
Charles Amnahu on the pup NFI list. He was heard
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of course late last season in the playoffs, and so
he's not going to be back for a while. They
traded a seventh round pick for Cam Thomas, who was
a third rounder from the Cardinals. It's kind of weird
that the Cardinals are giving up on an edge rusher
that the Chiefs want because the Chiefs are so much
better at that position. The Chiefs also traded a late
pick for tight end Peyton Hendershot. I would be afraid
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Evan to trade with the Chiefs at this point. Brett
Viach has kind of reached my standard of what the
Patriots used to be. Just be like, I don't want
to trade them players. So maybe they know something we
don't know. They're going to make us look bad.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Also, the Cardinals moved on from Cam Thomas after losing
bj Ojalaari for the season. And do you know what
the deal is with Darius Robinson, their second round pick.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, he is on injured reserve, designated to return.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, these are the kind of moves like when
I'm building my matchups column for Week one, Like there's
a cluster situation right now going on with the Cardinals
at I actually kind of like it. For their offense,
I think they're gonna be in a lot of shootout
situations this year because on defense they're just so shorthanded,
especially up front. Their best cornerback is Sean Murphy Bunting.
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I mean, they're gonna and I like Jonathan Gannon as
a schemer, but it's gonna be hard to scheme around this.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right I took an early look at the Week one lines.
I only sounded like two, and immediately I saw Bill's
minus six, and I was just thinking, well, fantasy, and
that Bill's are going to put thirty five on this team.
Maybe the Cardinals can kind of keep up and Kyler
and the offense will be fun too, and it'll just
be a fantasy score fest. But they're putting up thirty
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five on that Cardinals team. They do not have much
all right here, here's other things the Chiefs did. They
so they traded for Peyton Hendershot. He's like their fourth
tight end. They cut Kadarius Tony, and then Carson Steele,
the running back, makes the team. They only keep I
think four running backs and he's a fullback running back.
You are you into Carson Steele in like the deepest
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league possible.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I kind of want to see how it plays out
over the next couple of days and if they add
another running back. Yeah, Carson Steele showed a lot in
the preseason. You know, he kind of gives me vibes
of is Peyton hillis the old Brown's running back who
was actually on a Madden cover one year. Carson Steele
ran four seven to seven coming out of college. You
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do not see running backs that run that slow make
it in the NFL. But I mean, you know, he
couldn't have done more in the preseason to earn this
roster spot.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, I think Andy Reid loves him. They love having fallback.
Speaking of there's only a few left in the league.
The Cowboys kept one too. They have a rookie fallback,
Hunter Lipke. Now that would be a very deep league
if you drafted Hunter Lipkey, although I think he's going
to be on the field the sneaking out. They also
kept douce Vaughn, the diminutive sun of their running backs
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coach in Dallas or their position coach in Dallas. They
kept Ryan Flourney. I thought that was interesting, a rookie receiver.
They kept Andrew Booth, who they just traded for and
got cooked by East and Stick the other day. So
that's not a good sign for their cornerbacks. And they
might sign Dalvin Cook, Like what are you doing with
this Cowboys backfield? Like Lipkey's gonna be in the mix.
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You got Dowdell, you got Zeke. I don't know if
Dalvin Cook's gonna sign because at this point it's been
twenty four hours since that report came out and he
hasn't signed yet. I don't know. I'm just fading all
of it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I generally am as well. I'll take Rico Dowdell
late if you know, if he's there, and you know,
I need a running back or something. But I'm not.
There's nothing to be excited about that. The Cowboys roster
is so thin, man.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They really are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
They They're so thin. It's kind of like, I feel
like this could be a season where just the bottom
falls out on him, like they lose like seeding LAMB
for an extending period or I mean, you know, let
alone Dak Although their backup quarterback situation isn't terrible, Cooper
Rush like has been solid in past opportunities, but I
just feel like they're hanging by a thread if you're
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relying on rookies to start it on the offensive line,
just I don't know, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They also cut Karl Lawson, who I mentioned. They kept
signing all these veterans in the last week or two.
Most of them stuck. Karl Lawson, who used to be
a great pass rusher for the Bengals but just never
was the same after injuries was cut by the Cowboys.
It's a weird team. By the way, Ceedee Lamb's not
even on their active roster. They have a commissioners they
are not a commissioner's exempt, but he's on an exemplest
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for now before he gets fully back into it, so
they're kind of using a roster spot that way. The
Vikings are not using a roster spot on their first
round pick from just a couple of years ago. Lewis
Seen did not make this team. I mentioned Andrew Booth
got traded by the Vikings, so that means quessi adopha
mensa who's done a good job otherwise says it g
That means his first two draft picks, first and second
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round picks are no longer on the team. It was
only two years ago. They also cut Kenny Nuangu, which
I was really surprised about, one of the better return
guys in the league. I actually think he will be
a guy that gets claimed on waivers. Nikhil Harry did
not make this team. Any thoughts on the Vikings on
lewis Seen what's going on there. I kind of like
their backfield, even though it's only I think it's only
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two players right now. They might add a running back.
They only have two running backs right now.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, when we were talking about this a little bit
before the show, but when they drafted Andrew Booth and
Lewis seen in that first QUESSI draft, like, they probably thought, man,
this is we have the making, you know, this is
the foundation of our secondary for the next at least
four years. And they really got nothing out of either
of those guys, even like from a positional draft standpoint, like, yeah, dude,
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taking taking DB's high makes sense. Those guys were both
very highly touted. Booth a lot of people thought he
would be a first round pick that that year. Just
a complete disappointment. Quest he has struggled in the draft.
I mean, let's let's be real. Quest he has and
I still kind of believe in him, but he struggled
in the draft. The release of Kenny nuang Wu is
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interesting for ty Chandler as a late round fantasy sleeper.
I actually really like Aaron Jones in the middle rounds
for whatever reason, people don't want to draft him. I
like him getting a decent amount of him, and then
ty Chandler late as a guy that hey, you know,
if Aaron Jones has durability issues, which he has had
a decent amount in the past, ty Chandler becomes, you know,
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explosive second option that you could get for really cheap
in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I like both of those guys. You know, I would
handcuff and we're still using handcuff as Alex you know
in the Fantasy lexicon. Sometimes Levaton on your podcast, and
one thing I like about it is you guys just
you guys get to it. You get through it so fast.
But sometimes Levaton Levitan uses uh words I don't even
know anymore. Although I caused everyone dust everyone. It always
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delights me when I'm just like hoping to never be
dust in my career. Yeah, all right, let's go to
the Panthers. They put Jonathan Brooks that this is some
fantasy impact here on the pu P list. Also dj Wanham,
who's an edge rusher. They just have no one at
the edge, and yeah, I guess it's Tuber Hubard in
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the backfield and Jonathan Brooks is someone Yeah you can
stash in fantasy, but he might not be really all
the way back till pretty late in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, and I've got him, see I have to right
after we did the show. I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna
make a bunch of changes. All the changes are like
from player eighty five overall to like one fifty overall.
You know, but but I mean those mid round and
late round picks matter. I have Jonathan Brooks like right
around number ninety and he needs to go into like
the one twenties or something like that. I'll figure that out.
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But you know, there wasn't It seemed like there was
a chance to give you back by week three or
week four. But right now, I mean he's definitely out
through week won't be eligible to come back until week five,
and then who knows he's even going to get that
full time role. The Panthers could be going four by then.
I mean, I don't think they're going to be any good.
And you know, how would they be incentivized to give
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the ball to Jonathan Brooks a lot?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Right? I liked how he played in college, but they're
all about twenty twenty five and they're not gonna want it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It seems like he's behind schedule. When they drafted him,
they were saying that he would be ready for training camp.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This happens a lot though. That's the thing with OBJ
and a lot of times you know, everything's optimistic and
then you get to cut down there, you get the
training camp and these guys aren't ready, but it makes
sense to be careful with him. The Broncos tried to
trade Tim Patrick and Samaj p Ryan, but no one
wanted them, so they just cut them. They also cut
little Jordan Humphrey. They did keep all three of their quarterbacks.
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Samaj p Ryan is a guy that could land elsewhere.
The Eagles cut Paris Campbell, who initially was going to
be their third receiver, but then they trade for Johan Dottson.
They kept James Bradberry, who converted to safety. He's getting
paid twenty million dollars to be like their fifth safety,
but it's guaranteed money, and they just figure like, well,
why not keep him. He's a good guy. The Browns
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are keeping all four quarterbacks, so this is one to watch.
I think over the next few days. They cut down
to foreman at running backs, so they're very thin at
running back right now. What do you see about the
Browns backfield? And I can't imagine they're going to keep
Tyler Huntley and Dorian Thompson Robinson and Jameis Winston. But
it was a little interesting. There were reports that came
out that's saying they're looking to trade Huntley or Winston,
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that they're going to keep dtr and that maybe even
Winston's available. So that's just something to watch the next
couple of days. Are you buying Jerome Ford now because
they only have two running backs on the roster right now?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I am I've kind of always been buying Jerome Ford.
But you know, today, like after they cut Jontay Foreman,
a bunch of people were saying, like, well, he could
definitely be back. He just gives him an element that
Jerome Ford and Pierre Strong do not, and that he's
like a big back who can run with power, who
has like legitimate production on his resume in the NFL.
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So I think there's a possibility that he could come back.
The Brown's better not trade Jamis Winston because he's going
to be their starter at some point this year. If
anything happens to Deshaun Watson, which Deshaun Watson has already
struggled with, you know, some with soreness in his throwing
arm or whatever, I would be terrified. I do wonder
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that because Jameis Winston is such like he can be
a galvanizing presence. You know, you see the the pregame
stuff that he leads. I mean he's the backup quarterback.
He's leading the pregame stuff. Do they think that, oh, well,
he you know, he might be encroaching on Deshaun Watson.
You know, do we need to get rid of them? Yes,
because like like the team could like start to rally around,
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like you remember when like no one would sign Cam
Newton even to be their backup because he can he
has this this charisma and presence Like if something is
going wrong with the you know, mediocre starter, like the
team is going to turn to Cam.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm with you. I think that could be a factor.
I don't think Derek Carr totally loved all the love
that mus Winston was getting in New Orleans. I don't
think they brought they even considered bringing back Joe Flacco
because because at about the locker room, the city, let's
love Joe Flacco so much that you like, couldn't have
them around it. It's a whole thing. And Tyler Huntley
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look good enough in the preseason that maybe they'd be
willing to. I don't know. Let's take a quick break.
We have a few more items to get through, uh
with Evan, I'm looking forward to that, and then I'm
gonna have Ian rappaport on to wrap up this news
based show. We're a news show sometimes news back on
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NFL Daily. I mean, this is this is all protein
on this one? What is that? Is that? What's the
all protein diet? And now I'm now I'm blanking keto. Yeah,
this is this is the Keto of shows. It's just
like all protein, no filler, no pasta, no, not even
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any fruit. We're just getting to the cuts and letting
you know which ones matter so you're smarter than the
people around you. Forty nine ers had some interesting ones.
Elijah Mitchell's out for the season immediately that that has
fantasy implications. Their backup is who Jordan Mason? Who is
their back?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yes, And Christian McCaffrey right now is dealing with a
calf strain. Now we have we have a pretty high
level of confidence that he's going to be all right.
But it's something to keep in mind. I mean, running
backs get hurt in the NFL, especially when they're utilized
as workhorses, like Christian McCaffrey has been in San Francisco
and will continue to be. But Jordan Mason, by all
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accounts like he used to have like a sort of
contentious relationship with Bobby Turner the Broncos or the Broncos
used to be the Broncos Rby's coach, forty nine ers
RB's coach, and now Bobby Turner has been like praising him,
and he's like locked in as the number two right now,
especially with Eli Mitchell out for the season. Eli so
open training camp as like a draftable guy obviously, I
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mean he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like that Jordan Mason pick because I guess the
history of Christian McCaffrey. I know he's been healthy the
last few years, but softissue injury in August, all the
workload he had last year, just from a fantasy perspective
freaks me out a little bit. Also, it's a team
that September through November only matters so much. They can
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be careful with Christian McCaffrey. This is a team that's
worrying about December and especially January and hopefully February for them.
With that in mind, some big players not active on
the team right now. Hufunga goes to the pup. Their
safety Brandon Ayuk is on the roster. I expect that
thing to happen. Trent Williams is not because he's on
the reserve list right now, and they'll longer this goes.
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The more I'm wondering if he actually does miss a
game or two. And then Dre Greenlaw is on the
pup list. So a lot of talent there. The Texans
actually cut a lot of players I recognize, which is
always a good sign. It's like, oh, your roster's so
good that they were able to cut Noah Brown, decent player,
Desmond King, CJ Henderson, case Keenan went to IR. We
talked about him with Nick Shook the other day. He's
not healthy, so he's on IR. Tim Boyle was cut.
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Kristin Harris goes to IR return their starting linebacker Cam
Akers made this team like that, Damian Pierce made this team.
John Metchi made this team. Is a fun team. Like
who's your kind of favorite value type guy from the Texans.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I mean, I love all the starters on the Texans,
and it's hard to sift through their backups. There was
at one point in time where I wanted, really wanted
to like Damian Pierce, but he was atrocious all preseason.
I actually wonder if they're holding onto him to try
to get a seventh round pick from him or something
for him. Cam Akers looked great in the preseason. Yeah,
he really really good, and I wonder if he might
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end up being the number two back for Houston.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, something to watch week one between those two guys.
And yeah, I think one of these wide receivers could
get traded still at some point. Noah Brown, there was
some question whether one hundred percent, but he's going to
be on a roster somewhere just because he's better than
He's not great, he's a journeyman, but he's better than
half the Steelers wide receivers that they have rostered. The
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Falcons kept Taylor Heineke thought that was interesting. In one
of the teams keeping three quarterbacks and no trade there,
the Lions did not keep three. They cut Nate Sudfeld.
Hendon Hooker is their number two. That could be a
situation where Sudfeld goes to the practice squad and becomes
the backup. We'll see. They cut Donovan People's Jones. They
only have fifty two players on the roster, which is weird,
and so I do wonder if they're going to add
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a receiver. They feel like a team that needs to
add a receiver. An undrafted free agent named Isaiah Williams
made the team and he is right now wide receiver
four for the Lions.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah. I wonder if Tim Patrick might end up there.
I mean as like, you know, a big, physical receiver
who can very least block and give him something in
the possession game. I love Jamison Williams. They have really
cleared the deck. Yeah, Jamison Williams like he like essentially
has faced no competition the number two receiver. Well, I
do think that's a little risky. I think they add
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a veteran at some point.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, that would be interesting. The Saints cut our guy,
the Irish kicker, Charlie Smith. You know, they tried to
not play him at all in the preseason so no
one would take them. But then he hit a sixty
five yarder at my Alma Mata Yuelman Stadium from at
TWU Lane in an open practice that they were taping,
and everyone's like, what, who's this Irish kid that just
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booted a sixty five yarder, but they cut him anyway,
so I doubt another team will claim him, but he'll
be on their practice squad if not, and maybe replace
Blake Groupee. By the way, I know we have a
lot of international listeners, and I think sometimes the international
media and maybe the listeners too, like they freak out
when these guys get cut, like Lewis rees Zama in Kansasity.
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It's all part of the process, and you get a
free roster spot if you're part of this ipp So
it happens. It takes years to develop sometimes before they
make their mark, so it's all part of the process.
Kendrey Miller went to injured reserve. One thing I was
going to say about this team, if you have any comment,
just four undrafted free agents make the team, And like,
this is what happens when you never have any draft
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picks and you don't develop any good players with the
picks that you have. They're just like so thin at
so many positions. They're just counting on undrafted guys to
come in and make an impact.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, you remember they had that one sick draft. I
think it was only like a five man draft, and
it like saved a franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Now, yes, yeah, but they haven't drafted anything like that.
You know, over the course of time, the draft is
kind of like a crap shoot. I mean, that's kind
of been determined. So when they crushed that one draft
that wasn't necessarily everyone's like, Oh, Jeff Ireland's going to
get a GM job again at some point, and then
like they can't draft for the next five years straight.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, Marshall Lattimore was part of that draft. He is
on the roster. I yep, don't know what's up to
believe in practice all camp. Yeah, I don't know what's
up with him. I do believe you can draft and
develop well at certain positions with continuity on the coaching staff.
Like some teams are better at certain positions. I would
say the Saints are excellent at identifying and developing cornerbacks
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as much as Dennis Allen, you know, I make fun
of him, like that's that's what he does well, and
they're great at that and they've done it repeatedly. After that,
I don't really know what's going on. They cut Equanymia
Saint Brown. Dennis Allen said he won't announce who the
backup quarterback is which is just stupid that he just
wants to continue the competition. I mean, you're gonna have
to announce it once Week one gets here, So just
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just what are we doing here? Jordan Mims made the
team as a running back. He could be, you know,
a fantasy pick up during the year. Wouldn't be surprised
flying through the rest of these because you know, not
big headlines here, Evan, But just if you have any
thoughts jump in. The Pats cut Chad Ryland, who was
their fourth round pick. They traded up for him with
Bill Belichick's last draft last year. Bailey Zappie's gone. But
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Joe Milton made the team and Joey Sly made the team.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, Joe Milton is a developmental guy worth hanging on
two and the Patriots are very much in sconstin a rebuild, so.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
They look he looked pretty good in the preseason. Kishon
Booty made the team, which I was interested to see
because he played well. And so they're keeping a ton
of receivers and just see new sticks, all right. Only
two quarterbacks from the twenty twenty four draft are currently
on an active roster of the team that drafted them
only two in their entire class. This is only you
know and a two years and three months later. I'm
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saying that now because Bailey Zappi was cut, although he'll
probably end up on the practice squad. But right now,
can you name who those two players are? What draft
twenty twenty two only two years ago? One of them?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
The only first rounder was Kenny Pickett. Yeah, then another
quarterback didn't go to the third round.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think Malik Willis was one of the third rounders, Yes,
mister irrelevant. Of course, Brack Purty is in that class,
and you know is now a plus quarterback. And then
Skyler Thompson is the only other one. It was actually
the last two quarterbacks drafted two seven red picks, so
it is a crap shoot. Sometimes. The Bills made their
moves today. They cut Frank or Junior. I was disappointed
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to see that, no surprise, but he had a nice preseason,
so he might end up having an NFL career, which
would be cool. They cut Kareem Jackson, Lyle Collins, some
some veterans, Tyrrel Shavers, who was a young receiver I
was keeping an eye on. I just want to give
you the names of the Steelers wide receivers Evan before
we let you go that didn't make the team, that
did make the team. Rather, this is their group. George
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Pickens okay, and then wide receiver two through five Van Jefferson,
Roman Wilson who hasn't been healthy all camp, Calvin Austin,
Scottie Miller. Is that the worst? That's worse than the Patriots.
I know they have George Pickens, so maybe that makes
it better. But wide receiver two plot on, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Layable individual play like playable individuals. You know, the Patriots
have a better receiver court. I think the Steelers having
George Pickens puts him over the top. But you know,
maybe may maybe Jalen Polk can become eighty five percent
of George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I just mean like wide receiver two on that. Yeah,
that's the worst group in the league. I would say,
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Know if it's gonna matter the way that Arthur Smith
calls offense.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well, yeah, that's a fair point. Who is the wide
receiver too?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And land they're going to be playing a lot of
Darnell Washington this year.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It looks like I wouldn't be surprised they'll play like
three tight ends. All right, Let's let's wrap it up
with the Cardinals cutting Desmond Ritter, who they traded Rondell
Moore for, who's a Week one starter at quarterback last year.
Now he didn't even make the Cardinals. They also caught
Michael Carter at running back, who's had some moments. The
Jags cut a bunch of veterans that you might know,
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Trey Flowers, Adrian Amos, Terrell Edmonds, Jerry Rice's son. Made
the Chargers like what do you make of this Chargers
receiver group?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, again, it's a team that just is going to
run the piss out of the ball. And you know,
it's like, what what receiver receivers can block the best
on the field.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I think that and that might not we'll see on
lad McConkey, but seeing him in person, like as you
know as NFL players go, just he's gonna struggle crashing
down on those outside linebackers sometimes just you know, not
a not a heavy guy. The Chargers also kept Tony Jefferson,
who had that big preseason finale wrapping up with the Bears.
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You know what struck me with the Bears cuts was
like hard Knocks has done such a bad job getting
me invested in these teams this year. I just feel
like it's been like a music video of watching preseason
games this year that usually when there's cuts, I'm like, oh,
that guy from Hard Knocks gets cut, and I've watched
them all and this year I'm just I'm not I'm
not invested. I know it's not your team, but you
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do live in Chicago, Silva. Where are you at with
the Bears with Hard Knocks, with their offense, anything.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean, I have a lot of thoughts on the Bears.
They have like the easiest first half of the schedule
in the entire league. I think they're going to come
out of the gates five and two, six and one,
something like that, and the city is just gonna go
absolutely insane, to the point where like I'm gonna stop
liking the Bears at all and rooting against them because
they could just get so annoying. But I think they're
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gonna be good. I mean, I think they're gonna win
ten games this year. There They're win total at on
sportsbooks is eight and a half. I think that nine
is a is a slam dunk. I think they're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Good having Silva on for this day. The meat and potatoes,
the Keto diet of days was a great decision. It
was a slam dunk. I loved it. Silva one of
the few men I know who truly doesn't root for
a team, unless you're hiding it from me. It's just
he's just a black hearted individual who's just all about
(34:42):
the fantasy value and making that money for you. So yeah,
if you if you want some help doing that in
your fantasy league'es go over to establish the run. Thanks Silva,
appreciate you, Thank you. See man, all right, we're going
to wrap up NFL Daily. It's late August day, my
brother Dean rosenthal fiftieth birthday. By the way, he would
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never listen to a football program. He just doesn't care.
But you know who does care a lot about roster cuts.
It's Ian Rapaport, fresh off a post roster cuts workout
and dressed down for the occasion. If you're watching on
YouTube just to just to see what a post workout
Ian looks like, you should like and subscribe on YouTube
to the show. Thank you Ian, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, that's one of the great pleasures of my job
is when a deadline happens, we do some TV and
then I get a workout in and I know my
phone's not gonna buzz like it's been buzzing for the
last seventy two hours. So very nice and very cathartic.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Really, because I feel like it's still could buds.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
First of all, No, there'll be some things, but it's
not like the flurry of like who do you hear
is getting traded? Is this guy available? Like, yeah, the
team's interested in this guy. Like that. Stuff is basically
NonStop for the whole week, so that you know there
will still be some trades the next couple days, but
that mostly ends.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, how about a pox on the teams? As we record,
they still haven't even put their cuts out, which is
there's like four or five of them still out there.
Very annoying, but we know that the moves haven't finished
for the day. Anything that surprised you today, Ian with
all these cuts.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I mean, I don't know that there's ever that many
things that are surprising on cutdown day. You know, teams
have been so much more proactive when it comes to trades,
Like I remember it was like six years ago or
something Gideveon Clowney got traded on cutdown Day from I
think it was the Texans to the Seahawks. That would
never happen now, that would be that would be at
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the start of training camp. The Judon trade years past
would have been cut down day. Now, It's like teams
are way more proactive. They do things earlier, and I
think there's more real, honest conversations happening earlier. So you know,
we got a couple trades. I mean, we got an
Ernest Jones trade, we got a Malik Willis trade yesterday.
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I mean, we've got some stuff. But I don't know
that it's anything's that surprising. I think Cadarius Tony getting cut.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
How about OLBJ. I saw the way you put it
out and I'm not pushing on the insiders here, but
you said like this was always a possibility when when
they first signed OBJ. And I don't know, I heard
a lot of optimism this offseason from OBJ. And maybe
it's more from like the fans and some of the reporters,
but it was it felt like to me this whole time,
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when he's not on the field, Oh, he'll be fine,
He'll be fine. It's no big deal. Ob they really
seemed like they were carving out a big spot for
him on this team. I think it's pretty disappointing that
he's not going to be ready for the season.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I mean, I would say, first of all, you know
the way I put it out when when something like
that happens, Like I do that intentionally right, like I
like to. You know, there'll be times when I'll add
context to a tweet and I will not get it
out fast enough and someone will beat me. And I've
done this for thirteen years and I am okay with that.
I really am like the OBJ thing. I knew somebody
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might beat me on it, but I'm like, I would
like to put it out in the most context full
way possible. So like sources Beckham out the first four games,
like that's pretty splashy. But the reality is he had
a procedure surgery. I never got the sense it was
particularly close. I got the central offense didn't really want
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to talk about it, and so I think that's why
it was sort of sort of shrouded in secrecy. Because look,
when a guy hasn't practiced all camp, they almost always
start on pup, especially when he's not been with the team.
I would also say some realism of where Odell is
in his career definitely helps. Like he's not you know,
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Odell joining the Browns, which was like the world shook
when that trade happened, Like it's different now, he's a
complementary piece to an offense that's already very, very good.
So I think he'll play. I think he'll contribute. I
think it'll be helpful. There'll be some moments, but it's
not prime Odell. It's kind of what it is at
this point.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I do like that we get Ian Rappaport part analyst here,
not just the NFL insider. Your your boss, t'sy told
me to point that out, that you're here as a
role of providing some analysis, not just the hard news.
Give me some analysis on the forty nine ers. So
Brandon Nayuk is on the roster, no surprise, seems like
that's just a matter of time. And yet still nothing
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and then uh Williams is not on the roster. What
is your what is your level of like do you
believe that Trent Williams will play Week one for the
forty nine ers at this point?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Hold on, Brandon Ayuk has to be on the roster,
like there's no I know there was not, Like I
know we were talking, like you know, conversations on insiders
all the time about like you know, you know, is
he going to hold out? He can hold out when
you there are benefits to holding in in other words,
you don't get fined. That's good generally, But the opposite
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thing is like you have to play. So if Brandon
Ayuk doesn't have a deal, if he doesn't have something
that he likes, he's contractually obligated to play unless he's
going to like fake an injury. In that case, the
forty nine ers can start finding like he has to play.
Whereas Trent Williams is getting fined, is holding out but
he cannot play. That's his progat and he'll get fined,
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but he can still not play. So it's a different situation.
I would say this about Trent Williams, and I am
in I think it's possible it gets done. I don't
know for sure that it is.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I wish I know they have been talking. He is
a different dude. And if you were to say to me,
is there any player who would simply say, yeah, I'm
just not playing without a new deal like he would
be it. He does not like he is. He sat
out half the year with the you know team now
(40:48):
known as the Commanders because he didn't like the way
they treated his medical situation. Like he is a different dude,
So absent a new deal, Like yeah, I don't think
we're going to see him for a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
That was that was a pro move from you. There
almost said said it, but you didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
That's why I haven't said it on air since they
made the change.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That's why you've lasted so long. You've outlasted I know.
I remember when you were at the Boston Harold and
you're coming up to me. You and bre are both, hey,
there any stuff available at Pro Football Talk and stuff?
And now now look at you, you've outlasted them.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
All that seems fake.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
The dead the dead bodies of insiders that you've left
in your wake. I love it. What else do I
want to get to today? Do you have anything on
like the russ I know it has nothing to do
with what happened today, but just the russ Fields thing
and kind of the belief maybe in that building of
Russell Wilson and maybe how that that situation plays out
because here's what I would just point out. It's going
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to be a tough situation for either quarterback. I don't
love that offensive line. I don't really love the wide receivers,
and I just think that what do you think the
feeling of the building is there?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Well, here, nobody cares about the offensive line. But let
me just say this first, I think we see week
one is not going to be what we're going to
see week like eight. I think they they are talented,
they're probably gonna not probably, they're gonna start two rookies.
I think they are going to get better. So yes,
it's important. It's sort of like the Cowboys, Like I
could see the Cowboys struggling in the offensive line week
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one and everyone will lose their brains. But they are
young and talented, like they're gonna get better, and no
one cares about the offensive whatever. I don't think it's
a tough situation for Justin Fields. I don't. I think
he got traded to a place that is good for him,
best place he could have got traded for. He has
played well in the preseason practices, he's played okay in
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preseason games, and he is the guy who would sort
of theoretically come in for the upset, and he is
very talented and I know has made a really positive
impression in the building, just as far as how smart
he is, work ethic, how engaged he is. Like you know,
the thought of Arthur Smith kind of making him his
Tannehill but more talented, Like that's pretty real, Like that
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would be pretty good go for us. And look, he's
made so much money and had a lot of success
and so like, no one feels sorry for no one cares.
But he was sort of annoying.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Saying no one cares. I mean, people care, people care
about some people care about the nobody.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
So sorry for Russell Wills. Yeah, but it is tough
because he was sort of anointed as the would be starter.
He had a calf injury, he watched fields play well,
he's played again, okay, And the fact that he hasn't
sees the job now yet is not like a great
great sign. So we'll see what happens. Are still a
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really tough decision, but I don't think it's as easy
now as maybe it sort of should have been if
you had asked everyone on like July twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Mm hmm, I'm using my rap sheet translator there and
picking up some vibes what you're putting down last one
just quickly. This could be a yes or no if
you want. But there's been no reporting on it, Which
is is there any chance Marsha and Lattimore like I did?
That seems so quiet and such a situation that I
don't understand. He hasn't been on the field at all.
I guess he's been hurt, but is there anything going
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on there that he could get delt or something could happen.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I don't believe he's going to get dealt I believe so. Look,
it's an odd situation. I believe he and Dennis Allen
had a really good talk before camp. I thought he
was going to get traded this offseason. He did not.
He is an awesome player when he's on the field, awesome,
like really really really good. So if he goes out
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and plays great, then I think there are no issues.
If he goes out and plays great and the team
is really struggling, then I'm sure we're going to be
talking about him with the trade deadline again. But I
don't get the sense that there's an injury now that's
going to keep him off the field. I think it's
more of he is very specific with his body and
his preparation. I think it's more of the team being like,
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get ready, do your thing. See week one. I think
it was handled well. You know, these things can go
different ways, Like you know, would the Saint should be
better off with a third rounder or marsh On Latimer.
I would probably marsh On Latimore because he's very, very good.
I just sort of hope it stays that way.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I like it. Again, I used my rap sheet translator
that that was a good nugget. I'm glad I asked.
You gave me something that you know. Normally I might
text you and who knows if you'd tell me. But
I'm picking up what you're putting down the vibes. We're
gonna have you in hopefully part of the show here
and there throughout the course of the season. I'm looking
forward to that possible. Yeah, I mean anything is possible
until next time. Yeah, football is back. We're excited about it.
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We're back doing an AFC preview with Nick Right, that's
gonna be a fun one on our next show. See
you next time.
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always designated to return
the next day. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm with Evan Silva.
I was thinking back to my days back at Rhoda World.
Cutdown day, a tough day in the NFL for a
lot of players, a compelling day for front offices where
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you're putting together the roster and you're watching the rest
of the league. But I was thinking back to when
I was starting out in this business at Rota World,
and it was a very busy day. You would have
to just watch the transactions and pump them out, you know,
minute after minute you're waiting for the fifty three to
get reported. And who would be with me in the
trenches back then, but Evan Silva. So I thought, no
one better to do this day and go over what
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we find interesting today. How you doing, Evan?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
How's it going? Greg? Yeah? A lot has changed, especially
from the like from a rule standpoint, since those days
used to be like three rounds of cuts, there were
definitely two. Now there's always three.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Three back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now now there's only one. And I remember, like the
night before especially final cuts, like I'd be rooting please
teams like release some cuts early so we could just
start shipping away at them because we knew that the
next day was going to be absolute hell. And the teams,
they were supposed to have all their cuts out by
like four pm or five pm Eastern Time or something
(01:28):
like that, but they would always be one or two teams.
They wouldn't release their cuts until like hours afterwards. And
by that time we're I'm punch drunk on the internet.
You know, had been blurbing all day waiting for the
freaking Raiders to release.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was always the Raiders, the Raiders in the Seahawks.
But I got to give some props to the Raiders.
Maybe with Tom Tellesco in the building, something changed. They
were one of the first teams out. There are still
a few straggling teams out there, but we'll make sure
they're all covered. We wanted to get going. You're a
busy man, you're running so.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In the blurbs though, I mean I would just take
a flamethrower to the braids, just blasting them for not
releasing their cuts on time. But yeah, we can jump
into this.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember that I love the caustic Silva Blurbs, and
they weren't they weren't labeled with who wrote them, but
you could always tell which one was a Silva blurb.
And yeah, that's how I look at today's show. Look,
there weren't gigantic headlines, just little nuggets. They're different flavors
of these NFL daily shows. We got some big previews
coming up this week, but this is more of a
housekeeping day where we're looking at what happened around the league,
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trying to have our takeaways as we really get ready
for the season. And so yeah, let's just dive right
into it. I could start in a million different places here,
but I'm going to start with OBJ, just because I've
been tracking this story for a while. He was placed
on pup to start the season, and so you mentioned
how the rules have been changing. Evan, pup means you're
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out for four games now you're eligible to return at
that point. You're gonna have to be activated at some
point in there. And the Insiders, of which I'm having
one on later in the show, maybe I'll ask him
about it. Ian Rappaport said, Oh, this was a possible
you know outcome the whole time with Obj, But give
me a break. They weren't saying that publicly. It's pretty
disappointing for them. They really want to run an eleven
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offense here with three wide receivers. They wanted Odell Beckham
to be a big part of the team, and he's
just not going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean, he opened the camp, he opened camp on
active pup though, and he never got obviously, never got
in the practice field. I feel like the Beat writers
were talking about how they would barely even see him
around the facility. I think it could be potentially a
positive for Odell Beckham. He's not gonna have to play
the whole season. When they get him back in week
five or week six or week seven, he's going to
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be healthier than he is now, and at that point
maybe he can join their three receiver set. I think
one guy who's kind of interesting here to see what
kind of a role he can earn, and I think
it's Braxston Barrios is going to open the season as
the number three, but Molik Washington the sixth round pick.
I think it's kind of interesting all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, they're banged up. Jalen Waddle hasn't been healthy, River
Craikcaft hasn't been healthy, and I'm just curious, Well, I
got you, like, what are you viewing for this Dolphins offense?
Because usually they start like a house on fire, but
their offensive line, the receivers are banged up, the running
backs look awesome, Like what's your fantasy outlook right now?
(04:28):
And yeah, people get over to establish the run. It's
draft season. I got a draft on Wednesday. My kids
have a draft on Friday. Like it's time. It's time
to be to be getting that subscription and getting your
money's worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean, I have Tyreek Hill as a top five
overall pick number three right now in my top one
fifty rankings. You know, seventeen hundred plus yards in both
of his seasons under Mike McDaniel. I'm not too worried
about his injury stuff. And then Jalen Waddle last year
was like a consensus second round pick. This year, you
can get him in the fourth because he's not coming
off as great as season. He was banged up a
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lot last year. But I love him. I love taking
him in the third round. If something were to happen
at Tyreek Kill, Jayalen Wattle is going to win your
fantasy league.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh I like that, so that's the Dolphins on Tuesday.
The Packers started making moves on Monday, including the trade
for Malik Willis from the Titans for a seventh round pick,
and then they cut Sean Clifford, who was their backup
quarterback last year. They also cut my guy from Tulane,
(05:28):
Michael Pratt. A tough day out here for the Pratt
Pack because there was a report on si dot com
that he might not even get back to the practice squad,
that they want to keep Clifford there. I mean, seventh
round pick out of Pratt. I mean, Malik Willis being
one snap away from playing for a contender is a
little surprising to me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I would agree with that former what number he
was supposed to be the number three overall pick and
went in the third round Malik Willis and he just
never showed anything. I mean, obviously he's athletic, he's got
a strong arm, but just in terms of consistency, ball location,
I mean, he just really never put anything together. Even
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in preseason games. He was largely unimpressive.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I know for fantasy AJ Dillon going on injured
reserve for the season, that was a surprise. Yes, it
might be something where they can work out an injury settlement.
At some point he had a stinger and then Marshawn
Lloyd is not on IR, not on POP. He's on
the active roster. I guess he's the backup. I don't
know if he's healthy, Like, what's the fallout there in
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Green Bay?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Marshall Lloyd has been out for two and a half weeks.
There was actually a report that he would end up
opening the season on a list. Probably it would be
short term IR, but for now he is there. I
think Emmanuel Wilson would be on track to be the
Packers number two running back. This is a player that
maybe the Packers like more than we know. But to me,
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the biggest beneficiary is like they are going to open
the season with Josh Jacobs as a true warhorse behind
a pretty good run blocking offensive line in an offense.
So I think the arrow was pointing up. I think
Josh Jacobs awesome third round fantasy pick with very little
competition in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I love Jacobs. He's very hit or miss. He's kind
of due for a hit year. I would just worry
our producer, Randy's a Packers fan. Here. If I'm Randy,
I mean, you're one injury away from like Emmanuel Wilson
RB one maybe Week one, and one injury away from
Malik Willis. Obviously, everyone you know would be a problem
if you lose your quarterback, but just a little thin
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at those positions. They also cut their draft pick from
a year ago, Andrews Carlson, so they have their new kickers,
Greg Joseph at least for now. And we might as
well say the public service announcement that everyone feels the
need to say this time of year. It's true though
these are not the final rosters. There's going to be
more moves. If there was a team that was going
to pick up a veteran running back, Green Bay would
probably be high on the list. Absolutely another veteran move
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on Tuesday trade. Ernest Jones been tracking this the last
couple of days. The Titans trade for the Rams captain
on defense. Weird. They only had to give up a
pick swap of a fifth and a sixth round pick,
so basically the Rams said we're getting rid of this guy.
We'll take whatever we can get. Shocking to me, because
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like when Aaron Donald retired, he was literally quoted saying
to Ernest Jones, this is your defense now, And like
Ernest Jones is a guy the Rams have you know,
talked up a lot as kind of a leader and everything,
and now he's just gone for nothing. Strange, I think
an undrafted free agent they really like Omar Spates is
gonna start, But just a weird camp for the Rams
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losing a bunch of players and Ernest Jones. It sounds
like maybe he's not one hundred percent healthy or fit
after surgery this offseason, but a good pickup for the
Titans who were not looking good at linebacker.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, Omar Spates went undrafted out of LSU, so you
know every game that he plays in is a huge
million scouts there. You know, I feel like NFL teams
don't usually miss on a guy like that because there's
so much tape on him. But you know, obviously you
look good in training camping. Right now he has slotted
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in as a starter at off ball linebacker.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, they're They're a strange team. I don't know, I
don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They are a strange team. And every year I'm kind
of like, what are they doing? And then you know,
eighty percent of the time it works out.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I think for for fantasy, Pooka Akua's injury is
something to keep an eye on. Cooper Cup has looked
really healthy. I think it remains to be seeing how
Pooka Nikoua comes off this injury. Just because he's back
at practice. We just don't know. So that's a that's
a little worrisome. Like where do you have those two guys?
(09:49):
I'm going to hit you up for some fantasy nuggets
while we're doing this. Why not, Like, where are you
see in Puoka Cooper go off the board? I would
have said they're nowhere near each other in my mind
a Cup weeks ago and now for value, I might
rather have Cooper Cup just because I'm a little freaked
out about the Pookah injury and how.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
To be I would tend to agree with you. Pooka
Nakula right now though, is my twelfth overall player. But yeah,
I mean I haven't really heard any any substitute, substantive
or positive report on his health since he went down,
which was a while ago. I mean, I'm just not
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really sure I have Cooper Cup like number twenty three
or twenty four overall, But I think that for value,
I mean Pokinakua kind of regularly goes in the first round.
At the end of the first round, I think for value,
I'm leaning toward Cooper Cup right now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm gonna just give my tip here is I'm fading
Pookinakua right now, just based.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
On okay, based on the vibes.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'll leave it there. Charles Amena, who is on the
pup list. He is on the Chiefs. He's a he's
a pass rusher. There are a lot of moves for
the Chiefs, so I'm just going to go through the
defending cham By the way, the Titans also cut Caleb Fairley,
who was a first round pick a couple of years ago,
so I thought that one was interesting. He just was
never healthy enough to stay on the field for the Chiefs.
Charles Amnahu on the pup NFI list. He was heard
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of course late last season in the playoffs, and so
he's not going to be back for a while. They
traded a seventh round pick for Cam Thomas, who was
a third rounder from the Cardinals. It's kind of weird
that the Cardinals are giving up on an edge rusher
that the Chiefs want because the Chiefs are so much
better at that position. The Chiefs also traded a late
pick for tight end Peyton Hendershot. I would be afraid
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Evan to trade with the Chiefs at this point. Brett
Viach has kind of reached my standard of what the
Patriots used to be. Just be like, I don't want
to trade them players. So maybe they know something we
don't know. They're going to make us look bad.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Also, the Cardinals moved on from Cam Thomas after losing
bj Ojalaari for the season. And do you know what
the deal is with Darius Robinson, their second round pick.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, he is on injured reserve, designated to return.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, these are the kind of moves like when
I'm building my matchups column for Week one, Like there's
a cluster situation right now going on with the Cardinals
at I actually kind of like it. For their offense,
I think they're gonna be in a lot of shootout
situations this year because on defense they're just so shorthanded,
especially up front. Their best cornerback is Sean Murphy Bunting.
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I mean, they're gonna and I like Jonathan Gannon as
a schemer, but it's gonna be hard to scheme around this.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right I took an early look at the Week one lines.
I only sounded like two, and immediately I saw Bill's
minus six, and I was just thinking, well, fantasy, and
that Bill's are going to put thirty five on this team.
Maybe the Cardinals can kind of keep up and Kyler
and the offense will be fun too, and it'll just
be a fantasy score fest. But they're putting up thirty
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five on that Cardinals team. They do not have much
all right here, here's other things the Chiefs did. They
so they traded for Peyton Hendershot. He's like their fourth
tight end. They cut Kadarius Tony, and then Carson Steele,
the running back, makes the team. They only keep I
think four running backs and he's a fullback running back.
You are you into Carson Steele in like the deepest
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league possible.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I kind of want to see how it plays out
over the next couple of days and if they add
another running back. Yeah, Carson Steele showed a lot in
the preseason. You know, he kind of gives me vibes
of is Peyton hillis the old Brown's running back who
was actually on a Madden cover one year. Carson Steele
ran four seven to seven coming out of college. You
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do not see running backs that run that slow make
it in the NFL. But I mean, you know, he
couldn't have done more in the preseason to earn this
roster spot.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, I think Andy Reid loves him. They love having fallback.
Speaking of there's only a few left in the league.
The Cowboys kept one too. They have a rookie fallback,
Hunter Lipke. Now that would be a very deep league
if you drafted Hunter Lipkey, although I think he's going
to be on the field the sneaking out. They also
kept douce Vaughn, the diminutive sun of their running backs
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coach in Dallas or their position coach in Dallas. They
kept Ryan Flourney. I thought that was interesting, a rookie receiver.
They kept Andrew Booth, who they just traded for and
got cooked by East and Stick the other day. So
that's not a good sign for their cornerbacks. And they
might sign Dalvin Cook, Like what are you doing with
this Cowboys backfield? Like Lipkey's gonna be in the mix.
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You got Dowdell, you got Zeke. I don't know if
Dalvin Cook's gonna sign because at this point it's been
twenty four hours since that report came out and he
hasn't signed yet. I don't know. I'm just fading all
of it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I generally am as well. I'll take Rico Dowdell
late if you know, if he's there, and you know,
I need a running back or something. But I'm not.
There's nothing to be excited about that. The Cowboys roster
is so thin, man.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They really are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
They They're so thin. It's kind of like, I feel
like this could be a season where just the bottom
falls out on him, like they lose like seeding LAMB
for an extending period or I mean, you know, let
alone Dak Although their backup quarterback situation isn't terrible, Cooper
Rush like has been solid in past opportunities, but I
just feel like they're hanging by a thread if you're
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relying on rookies to start it on the offensive line,
just I don't know, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They also cut Karl Lawson, who I mentioned. They kept
signing all these veterans in the last week or two.
Most of them stuck. Karl Lawson, who used to be
a great pass rusher for the Bengals but just never
was the same after injuries was cut by the Cowboys.
It's a weird team. By the way, Ceedee Lamb's not
even on their active roster. They have a commissioners they
are not a commissioner's exempt, but he's on an exemplest
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for now before he gets fully back into it, so
they're kind of using a roster spot that way. The
Vikings are not using a roster spot on their first
round pick from just a couple of years ago. Lewis
Seen did not make this team. I mentioned Andrew Booth
got traded by the Vikings, so that means quessi adopha
mensa who's done a good job otherwise says it g
That means his first two draft picks, first and second
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round picks are no longer on the team. It was
only two years ago. They also cut Kenny Nuangu, which
I was really surprised about, one of the better return
guys in the league. I actually think he will be
a guy that gets claimed on waivers. Nikhil Harry did
not make this team. Any thoughts on the Vikings on
lewis Seen what's going on there. I kind of like
their backfield, even though it's only I think it's only
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two players right now. They might add a running back.
They only have two running backs right now.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, when we were talking about this a little bit
before the show, but when they drafted Andrew Booth and
Lewis seen in that first QUESSI draft, like, they probably thought, man,
this is we have the making, you know, this is
the foundation of our secondary for the next at least
four years. And they really got nothing out of either
of those guys, even like from a positional draft standpoint, like, yeah, dude,
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taking taking DB's high makes sense. Those guys were both
very highly touted. Booth a lot of people thought he
would be a first round pick that that year. Just
a complete disappointment. Quest he has struggled in the draft.
I mean, let's let's be real. Quest he has and
I still kind of believe in him, but he struggled
in the draft. The release of Kenny nuang Wu is
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interesting for ty Chandler as a late round fantasy sleeper.
I actually really like Aaron Jones in the middle rounds
for whatever reason, people don't want to draft him. I
like him getting a decent amount of him, and then
ty Chandler late as a guy that hey, you know,
if Aaron Jones has durability issues, which he has had
a decent amount in the past, ty Chandler becomes, you know,
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explosive second option that you could get for really cheap
in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I like both of those guys. You know, I would
handcuff and we're still using handcuff as Alex you know
in the Fantasy lexicon. Sometimes Levaton on your podcast, and
one thing I like about it is you guys just
you guys get to it. You get through it so fast.
But sometimes Levaton Levitan uses uh words I don't even
know anymore. Although I caused everyone dust everyone. It always
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delights me when I'm just like hoping to never be
dust in my career. Yeah, all right, let's go to
the Panthers. They put Jonathan Brooks that this is some
fantasy impact here on the pu P list. Also dj Wanham,
who's an edge rusher. They just have no one at
the edge, and yeah, I guess it's Tuber Hubard in
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the backfield and Jonathan Brooks is someone Yeah you can
stash in fantasy, but he might not be really all
the way back till pretty late in the season.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, and I've got him, see I have to right
after we did the show. I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna
make a bunch of changes. All the changes are like
from player eighty five overall to like one fifty overall.
You know, but but I mean those mid round and
late round picks matter. I have Jonathan Brooks like right
around number ninety and he needs to go into like
the one twenties or something like that. I'll figure that out.
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But you know, there wasn't It seemed like there was
a chance to give you back by week three or
week four. But right now, I mean he's definitely out
through week won't be eligible to come back until week five,
and then who knows he's even going to get that
full time role. The Panthers could be going four by then.
I mean, I don't think they're going to be any good.
And you know, how would they be incentivized to give
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the ball to Jonathan Brooks a lot?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Right? I liked how he played in college, but they're
all about twenty twenty five and they're not gonna want it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It seems like he's behind schedule. When they drafted him,
they were saying that he would be ready for training camp.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This happens a lot though. That's the thing with OBJ
and a lot of times you know, everything's optimistic and
then you get to cut down there, you get the
training camp and these guys aren't ready, but it makes
sense to be careful with him. The Broncos tried to
trade Tim Patrick and Samaj p Ryan, but no one
wanted them, so they just cut them. They also cut
little Jordan Humphrey. They did keep all three of their quarterbacks.
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Samaj p Ryan is a guy that could land elsewhere.
The Eagles cut Paris Campbell, who initially was going to
be their third receiver, but then they trade for Johan Dottson.
They kept James Bradberry, who converted to safety. He's getting
paid twenty million dollars to be like their fifth safety,
but it's guaranteed money, and they just figure like, well,
why not keep him. He's a good guy. The Browns
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are keeping all four quarterbacks, so this is one to watch.
I think over the next few days. They cut down
to foreman at running backs, so they're very thin at
running back right now. What do you see about the
Browns backfield? And I can't imagine they're going to keep
Tyler Huntley and Dorian Thompson Robinson and Jameis Winston. But
it was a little interesting. There were reports that came
out that's saying they're looking to trade Huntley or Winston,
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that they're going to keep dtr and that maybe even
Winston's available. So that's just something to watch the next
couple of days. Are you buying Jerome Ford now because
they only have two running backs on the roster right now?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I am I've kind of always been buying Jerome Ford.
But you know, today, like after they cut Jontay Foreman,
a bunch of people were saying, like, well, he could
definitely be back. He just gives him an element that
Jerome Ford and Pierre Strong do not, and that he's
like a big back who can run with power, who
has like legitimate production on his resume in the NFL.
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So I think there's a possibility that he could come back.
The Brown's better not trade Jamis Winston because he's going
to be their starter at some point this year. If
anything happens to Deshaun Watson, which Deshaun Watson has already
struggled with, you know, some with soreness in his throwing
arm or whatever, I would be terrified. I do wonder
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that because Jameis Winston is such like he can be
a galvanizing presence. You know, you see the the pregame
stuff that he leads. I mean he's the backup quarterback.
He's leading the pregame stuff. Do they think that, oh, well,
he you know, he might be encroaching on Deshaun Watson.
You know, do we need to get rid of them? Yes,
because like like the team could like start to rally around,
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like you remember when like no one would sign Cam
Newton even to be their backup because he can he
has this this charisma and presence Like if something is
going wrong with the you know, mediocre starter, like the
team is going to turn to Cam.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm with you. I think that could be a factor.
I don't think Derek Carr totally loved all the love
that mus Winston was getting in New Orleans. I don't
think they brought they even considered bringing back Joe Flacco
because because at about the locker room, the city, let's
love Joe Flacco so much that you like, couldn't have
them around it. It's a whole thing. And Tyler Huntley
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look good enough in the preseason that maybe they'd be
willing to. I don't know. Let's take a quick break.
We have a few more items to get through, uh
with Evan, I'm looking forward to that, and then I'm
gonna have Ian rappaport on to wrap up this news
based show. We're a news show sometimes news back on
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NFL Daily. I mean, this is this is all protein
on this one? What is that? Is that? What's the
all protein diet? And now I'm now I'm blanking keto. Yeah,
this is this is the Keto of shows. It's just
like all protein, no filler, no pasta, no, not even
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any fruit. We're just getting to the cuts and letting
you know which ones matter so you're smarter than the
people around you. Forty nine ers had some interesting ones.
Elijah Mitchell's out for the season immediately that that has
fantasy implications. Their backup is who Jordan Mason? Who is
their back?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yes, And Christian McCaffrey right now is dealing with a
calf strain. Now we have we have a pretty high
level of confidence that he's going to be all right.
But it's something to keep in mind. I mean, running
backs get hurt in the NFL, especially when they're utilized
as workhorses, like Christian McCaffrey has been in San Francisco
and will continue to be. But Jordan Mason, by all
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accounts like he used to have like a sort of
contentious relationship with Bobby Turner the Broncos or the Broncos
used to be the Broncos Rby's coach, forty nine ers
RB's coach, and now Bobby Turner has been like praising him,
and he's like locked in as the number two right now,
especially with Eli Mitchell out for the season. Eli so
open training camp as like a draftable guy obviously, I
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mean he's done.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like that Jordan Mason pick because I guess the
history of Christian McCaffrey. I know he's been healthy the
last few years, but softissue injury in August, all the
workload he had last year, just from a fantasy perspective
freaks me out a little bit. Also, it's a team
that September through November only matters so much. They can
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be careful with Christian McCaffrey. This is a team that's
worrying about December and especially January and hopefully February for them.
With that in mind, some big players not active on
the team right now. Hufunga goes to the pup. Their
safety Brandon Ayuk is on the roster. I expect that
thing to happen. Trent Williams is not because he's on
the reserve list right now, and they'll longer this goes.
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The more I'm wondering if he actually does miss a
game or two. And then Dre Greenlaw is on the
pup list. So a lot of talent there. The Texans
actually cut a lot of players I recognize, which is
always a good sign. It's like, oh, your roster's so
good that they were able to cut Noah Brown, decent player,
Desmond King, CJ Henderson, case Keenan went to IR. We
talked about him with Nick Shook the other day. He's
not healthy, so he's on IR. Tim Boyle was cut.
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Kristin Harris goes to IR return their starting linebacker Cam
Akers made this team like that, Damian Pierce made this team.
John Metchi made this team. Is a fun team. Like
who's your kind of favorite value type guy from the Texans.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I mean, I love all the starters on the Texans,
and it's hard to sift through their backups. There was
at one point in time where I wanted, really wanted
to like Damian Pierce, but he was atrocious all preseason.
I actually wonder if they're holding onto him to try
to get a seventh round pick from him or something
for him. Cam Akers looked great in the preseason. Yeah,
he really really good, and I wonder if he might
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end up being the number two back for Houston.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, something to watch week one between those two guys.
And yeah, I think one of these wide receivers could
get traded still at some point. Noah Brown, there was
some question whether one hundred percent, but he's going to
be on a roster somewhere just because he's better than
He's not great, he's a journeyman, but he's better than
half the Steelers wide receivers that they have rostered. The
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Falcons kept Taylor Heineke thought that was interesting. In one
of the teams keeping three quarterbacks and no trade there,
the Lions did not keep three. They cut Nate Sudfeld.
Hendon Hooker is their number two. That could be a
situation where Sudfeld goes to the practice squad and becomes
the backup. We'll see. They cut Donovan People's Jones. They
only have fifty two players on the roster, which is weird,
and so I do wonder if they're going to add
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a receiver. They feel like a team that needs to
add a receiver. An undrafted free agent named Isaiah Williams
made the team and he is right now wide receiver
four for the Lions.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah. I wonder if Tim Patrick might end up there.
I mean as like, you know, a big, physical receiver
who can very least block and give him something in
the possession game. I love Jamison Williams. They have really
cleared the deck. Yeah, Jamison Williams like he like essentially
has faced no competition the number two receiver. Well, I
do think that's a little risky. I think they add
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a veteran at some point.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, that would be interesting. The Saints cut our guy,
the Irish kicker, Charlie Smith. You know, they tried to
not play him at all in the preseason so no
one would take them. But then he hit a sixty
five yarder at my Alma Mata Yuelman Stadium from at
TWU Lane in an open practice that they were taping,
and everyone's like, what, who's this Irish kid that just
(27:24):
booted a sixty five yarder, but they cut him anyway,
so I doubt another team will claim him, but he'll
be on their practice squad if not, and maybe replace
Blake Groupee. By the way, I know we have a
lot of international listeners, and I think sometimes the international
media and maybe the listeners too, like they freak out
when these guys get cut, like Lewis rees Zama in Kansasity.
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It's all part of the process, and you get a
free roster spot if you're part of this ipp So
it happens. It takes years to develop sometimes before they
make their mark, so it's all part of the process.
Kendrey Miller went to injured reserve. One thing I was
going to say about this team, if you have any comment,
just four undrafted free agents make the team, And like,
this is what happens when you never have any draft
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picks and you don't develop any good players with the
picks that you have. They're just like so thin at
so many positions. They're just counting on undrafted guys to
come in and make an impact.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, you remember they had that one sick draft. I
think it was only like a five man draft, and
it like saved a franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Now, yes, yeah, but they haven't drafted anything like that.
You know, over the course of time, the draft is
kind of like a crap shoot. I mean, that's kind
of been determined. So when they crushed that one draft
that wasn't necessarily everyone's like, Oh, Jeff Ireland's going to
get a GM job again at some point, and then
like they can't draft for the next five years straight.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, Marshall Lattimore was part of that draft. He is
on the roster. I yep, don't know what's up to
believe in practice all camp. Yeah, I don't know what's
up with him. I do believe you can draft and
develop well at certain positions with continuity on the coaching staff.
Like some teams are better at certain positions. I would
say the Saints are excellent at identifying and developing cornerbacks
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as much as Dennis Allen, you know, I make fun
of him, like that's that's what he does well, and
they're great at that and they've done it repeatedly. After that,
I don't really know what's going on. They cut Equanymia
Saint Brown. Dennis Allen said he won't announce who the
backup quarterback is which is just stupid that he just
wants to continue the competition. I mean, you're gonna have
to announce it once Week one gets here, So just
(29:30):
just what are we doing here? Jordan Mims made the
team as a running back. He could be, you know,
a fantasy pick up during the year. Wouldn't be surprised
flying through the rest of these because you know, not
big headlines here, Evan, But just if you have any
thoughts jump in. The Pats cut Chad Ryland, who was
their fourth round pick. They traded up for him with
Bill Belichick's last draft last year. Bailey Zappie's gone. But
(29:51):
Joe Milton made the team and Joey Sly made the team.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, Joe Milton is a developmental guy worth hanging on
two and the Patriots are very much in sconstin a rebuild, so.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
They look he looked pretty good in the preseason. Kishon
Booty made the team, which I was interested to see
because he played well. And so they're keeping a ton
of receivers and just see new sticks, all right. Only
two quarterbacks from the twenty twenty four draft are currently
on an active roster of the team that drafted them
only two in their entire class. This is only you
know and a two years and three months later. I'm
(30:25):
saying that now because Bailey Zappi was cut, although he'll
probably end up on the practice squad. But right now,
can you name who those two players are? What draft
twenty twenty two only two years ago? One of them?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
The only first rounder was Kenny Pickett. Yeah, then another
quarterback didn't go to the third round.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think Malik Willis was one of the third rounders, Yes,
mister irrelevant. Of course, Brack Purty is in that class,
and you know is now a plus quarterback. And then
Skyler Thompson is the only other one. It was actually
the last two quarterbacks drafted two seven red picks, so
it is a crap shoot. Sometimes. The Bills made their
moves today. They cut Frank or Junior. I was disappointed
(31:08):
to see that, no surprise, but he had a nice preseason,
so he might end up having an NFL career, which
would be cool. They cut Kareem Jackson, Lyle Collins, some
some veterans, Tyrrel Shavers, who was a young receiver I
was keeping an eye on. I just want to give
you the names of the Steelers wide receivers Evan before
we let you go that didn't make the team, that
did make the team. Rather, this is their group. George
(31:29):
Pickens okay, and then wide receiver two through five Van Jefferson,
Roman Wilson who hasn't been healthy all camp, Calvin Austin,
Scottie Miller. Is that the worst? That's worse than the Patriots.
I know they have George Pickens, so maybe that makes
it better. But wide receiver two plot on, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Layable individual play like playable individuals. You know, the Patriots
have a better receiver court. I think the Steelers having
George Pickens puts him over the top. But you know,
maybe may maybe Jalen Polk can become eighty five percent
of George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I just mean like wide receiver two on that. Yeah,
that's the worst group in the league. I would say,
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Know if it's gonna matter the way that Arthur Smith
calls offense.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well, yeah, that's a fair point. Who is the wide
receiver too?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And land they're going to be playing a lot of
Darnell Washington this year.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It looks like I wouldn't be surprised they'll play like
three tight ends. All right, Let's let's wrap it up
with the Cardinals cutting Desmond Ritter, who they traded Rondell
Moore for, who's a Week one starter at quarterback last year.
Now he didn't even make the Cardinals. They also caught
Michael Carter at running back, who's had some moments. The
Jags cut a bunch of veterans that you might know,
(32:39):
Trey Flowers, Adrian Amos, Terrell Edmonds, Jerry Rice's son. Made
the Chargers like what do you make of this Chargers
receiver group?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, again, it's a team that just is going to
run the piss out of the ball. And you know,
it's like, what what receiver receivers can block the best
on the field.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I think that and that might not we'll see on
lad McConkey, but seeing him in person, like as you
know as NFL players go, just he's gonna struggle crashing
down on those outside linebackers sometimes just you know, not
a not a heavy guy. The Chargers also kept Tony Jefferson,
who had that big preseason finale wrapping up with the Bears.
(33:21):
You know what struck me with the Bears cuts was
like hard Knocks has done such a bad job getting
me invested in these teams this year. I just feel
like it's been like a music video of watching preseason
games this year that usually when there's cuts, I'm like, oh,
that guy from Hard Knocks gets cut, and I've watched
them all and this year I'm just I'm not I'm
not invested. I know it's not your team, but you
(33:42):
do live in Chicago, Silva. Where are you at with
the Bears with Hard Knocks, with their offense, anything.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean, I have a lot of thoughts on the Bears.
They have like the easiest first half of the schedule
in the entire league. I think they're going to come
out of the gates five and two, six and one,
something like that, and the city is just gonna go
absolutely insane, to the point where like I'm gonna stop
liking the Bears at all and rooting against them because
they could just get so annoying. But I think they're
(34:09):
gonna be good. I mean, I think they're gonna win
ten games this year. There They're win total at on
sportsbooks is eight and a half. I think that nine
is a is a slam dunk. I think they're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Good having Silva on for this day. The meat and potatoes,
the Keto diet of days was a great decision. It
was a slam dunk. I loved it. Silva one of
the few men I know who truly doesn't root for
a team, unless you're hiding it from me. It's just
he's just a black hearted individual who's just all about
(34:42):
the fantasy value and making that money for you. So yeah,
if you if you want some help doing that in
your fantasy league'es go over to establish the run. Thanks Silva,
appreciate you, Thank you. See man, all right, we're going
to wrap up NFL Daily. It's late August day, my
brother Dean rosenthal fiftieth birthday. By the way, he would
(35:02):
never listen to a football program. He just doesn't care.
But you know who does care a lot about roster cuts.
It's Ian Rapaport, fresh off a post roster cuts workout
and dressed down for the occasion. If you're watching on
YouTube just to just to see what a post workout
Ian looks like, you should like and subscribe on YouTube
to the show. Thank you Ian, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, that's one of the great pleasures of my job
is when a deadline happens, we do some TV and
then I get a workout in and I know my
phone's not gonna buzz like it's been buzzing for the
last seventy two hours. So very nice and very cathartic.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Really, because I feel like it's still could buds.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
First of all, No, there'll be some things, but it's
not like the flurry of like who do you hear
is getting traded? Is this guy available? Like, yeah, the
team's interested in this guy. Like that. Stuff is basically
NonStop for the whole week, so that you know there
will still be some trades the next couple days, but
that mostly ends.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, how about a pox on the teams? As we record,
they still haven't even put their cuts out, which is
there's like four or five of them still out there.
Very annoying, but we know that the moves haven't finished
for the day. Anything that surprised you today, Ian with
all these cuts.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I mean, I don't know that there's ever that many
things that are surprising on cutdown day. You know, teams
have been so much more proactive when it comes to trades,
Like I remember it was like six years ago or
something Gideveon Clowney got traded on cutdown Day from I
think it was the Texans to the Seahawks. That would
never happen now, that would be that would be at
(36:41):
the start of training camp. The Judon trade years past
would have been cut down day. Now, It's like teams
are way more proactive. They do things earlier, and I
think there's more real, honest conversations happening earlier. So you know,
we got a couple trades. I mean, we got an
Ernest Jones trade, we got a Malik Willis trade yesterday.
(37:01):
I mean, we've got some stuff. But I don't know
that it's anything's that surprising. I think Cadarius Tony getting cut.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
How about OLBJ. I saw the way you put it
out and I'm not pushing on the insiders here, but
you said like this was always a possibility when when
they first signed OBJ. And I don't know, I heard
a lot of optimism this offseason from OBJ. And maybe
it's more from like the fans and some of the reporters,
but it was it felt like to me this whole time,
(37:29):
when he's not on the field, Oh, he'll be fine,
He'll be fine. It's no big deal. Ob they really
seemed like they were carving out a big spot for
him on this team. I think it's pretty disappointing that
he's not going to be ready for the season.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I mean, I would say, first of all, you know
the way I put it out when when something like
that happens, Like I do that intentionally right, like I
like to. You know, there'll be times when I'll add
context to a tweet and I will not get it
out fast enough and someone will beat me. And I've
done this for thirteen years and I am okay with that.
I really am like the OBJ thing. I knew somebody
(38:02):
might beat me on it, but I'm like, I would
like to put it out in the most context full
way possible. So like sources Beckham out the first four games,
like that's pretty splashy. But the reality is he had
a procedure surgery. I never got the sense it was
particularly close. I got the central offense didn't really want
(38:23):
to talk about it, and so I think that's why
it was sort of sort of shrouded in secrecy. Because look,
when a guy hasn't practiced all camp, they almost always
start on pup, especially when he's not been with the team.
I would also say some realism of where Odell is
in his career definitely helps. Like he's not you know,
(38:44):
Odell joining the Browns, which was like the world shook
when that trade happened, Like it's different now, he's a
complementary piece to an offense that's already very, very good.
So I think he'll play. I think he'll contribute. I
think it'll be helpful. There'll be some moments, but it's
not prime Odell. It's kind of what it is at
this point.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I do like that we get Ian Rappaport part analyst here,
not just the NFL insider. Your your boss, t'sy told
me to point that out, that you're here as a
role of providing some analysis, not just the hard news.
Give me some analysis on the forty nine ers. So
Brandon Nayuk is on the roster, no surprise, seems like
that's just a matter of time. And yet still nothing
(39:23):
and then uh Williams is not on the roster. What
is your what is your level of like do you
believe that Trent Williams will play Week one for the
forty nine ers at this point?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Hold on, Brandon Ayuk has to be on the roster,
like there's no I know there was not, Like I
know we were talking, like you know, conversations on insiders
all the time about like you know, you know, is
he going to hold out? He can hold out when
you there are benefits to holding in in other words,
you don't get fined. That's good generally, But the opposite
(39:54):
thing is like you have to play. So if Brandon
Ayuk doesn't have a deal, if he doesn't have something
that he likes, he's contractually obligated to play unless he's
going to like fake an injury. In that case, the
forty nine ers can start finding like he has to play.
Whereas Trent Williams is getting fined, is holding out but
he cannot play. That's his progat and he'll get fined,
(40:15):
but he can still not play. So it's a different situation.
I would say this about Trent Williams, and I am
in I think it's possible it gets done. I don't
know for sure that it is.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I wish I know they have been talking. He is
a different dude. And if you were to say to me,
is there any player who would simply say, yeah, I'm
just not playing without a new deal like he would
be it. He does not like he is. He sat
out half the year with the you know team now
(40:48):
known as the Commanders because he didn't like the way
they treated his medical situation. Like he is a different dude,
So absent a new deal, Like yeah, I don't think
we're going to see him for a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
That was that was a pro move from you. There
almost said said it, but you didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
That's why I haven't said it on air since they
made the change.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That's why you've lasted so long. You've outlasted I know.
I remember when you were at the Boston Harold and
you're coming up to me. You and bre are both, hey,
there any stuff available at Pro Football Talk and stuff?
And now now look at you, you've outlasted them.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
All that seems fake.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
The dead the dead bodies of insiders that you've left
in your wake. I love it. What else do I
want to get to today? Do you have anything on
like the russ I know it has nothing to do
with what happened today, but just the russ Fields thing
and kind of the belief maybe in that building of
Russell Wilson and maybe how that that situation plays out
because here's what I would just point out. It's going
(41:44):
to be a tough situation for either quarterback. I don't
love that offensive line. I don't really love the wide receivers,
and I just think that what do you think the
feeling of the building is there?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Well, here, nobody cares about the offensive line. But let
me just say this first, I think we see week
one is not going to be what we're going to
see week like eight. I think they they are talented,
they're probably gonna not probably, they're gonna start two rookies.
I think they are going to get better. So yes,
it's important. It's sort of like the Cowboys, Like I
could see the Cowboys struggling in the offensive line week
(42:15):
one and everyone will lose their brains. But they are
young and talented, like they're gonna get better, and no
one cares about the offensive whatever. I don't think it's
a tough situation for Justin Fields. I don't. I think
he got traded to a place that is good for him,
best place he could have got traded for. He has
played well in the preseason practices, he's played okay in
(42:36):
preseason games, and he is the guy who would sort
of theoretically come in for the upset, and he is
very talented and I know has made a really positive
impression in the building, just as far as how smart
he is, work ethic, how engaged he is. Like you know,
the thought of Arthur Smith kind of making him his
Tannehill but more talented, Like that's pretty real, Like that
(42:58):
would be pretty good go for us. And look, he's
made so much money and had a lot of success
and so like, no one feels sorry for no one cares.
But he was sort of annoying.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Saying no one cares. I mean, people care, people care
about some people care about the nobody.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
So sorry for Russell Wills. Yeah, but it is tough
because he was sort of anointed as the would be starter.
He had a calf injury, he watched fields play well,
he's played again, okay, And the fact that he hasn't
sees the job now yet is not like a great
great sign. So we'll see what happens. Are still a
(43:34):
really tough decision, but I don't think it's as easy
now as maybe it sort of should have been if
you had asked everyone on like July twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Mm hmm, I'm using my rap sheet translator there and
picking up some vibes what you're putting down last one
just quickly. This could be a yes or no if
you want. But there's been no reporting on it, Which
is is there any chance Marsha and Lattimore like I did?
That seems so quiet and such a situation that I
don't understand. He hasn't been on the field at all.
I guess he's been hurt, but is there anything going
(44:05):
on there that he could get delt or something could happen.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I don't believe he's going to get dealt I believe so. Look,
it's an odd situation. I believe he and Dennis Allen
had a really good talk before camp. I thought he
was going to get traded this offseason. He did not.
He is an awesome player when he's on the field, awesome,
like really really really good. So if he goes out
(44:28):
and plays great, then I think there are no issues.
If he goes out and plays great and the team
is really struggling, then I'm sure we're going to be
talking about him with the trade deadline again. But I
don't get the sense that there's an injury now that's
going to keep him off the field. I think it's
more of he is very specific with his body and
his preparation. I think it's more of the team being like,
(44:49):
get ready, do your thing. See week one. I think
it was handled well. You know, these things can go
different ways, Like you know, would the Saint should be
better off with a third rounder or marsh On Latimer.
I would probably marsh On Latimore because he's very, very good.
I just sort of hope it stays that way.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I like it. Again, I used my rap sheet translator
that that was a good nugget. I'm glad I asked.
You gave me something that you know. Normally I might
text you and who knows if you'd tell me. But
I'm picking up what you're putting down the vibes. We're
gonna have you in hopefully part of the show here
and there throughout the course of the season. I'm looking
forward to that possible. Yeah, I mean anything is possible
until next time. Yeah, football is back. We're excited about it.
(45:33):
We're back doing an AFC preview with Nick Right, that's
gonna be a fun one on our next show. See
you next time.
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