November 14, 2025 • 30 mins
Two-time Superbowl Champion Terrell Suggs aka “T-Sizzle” joins Cam in studio for a freewheeling episode of the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan Podcast. The defensive standouts discuss their shared Arizona roots, Terrell’s recovery from two Achilles tears, and what made Michael Vick the hardest QB to sack. Terrell also explains why winning a Superbowl is almost better than seeing your baby being born. Plus, Cam puts Terrell through a trivia game to test how much he remembers about standout moments from his illustrious career.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome on in.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's off the edge of me your host Cam Jordan,
and as your host, I get to have phenomenal guests
on the pod. I'm so excited to get an Arizona legend,
a Chandler legend, a man who started off at Chandler High,
finished at Hamilton High. And we'll talk about it. But
he's the president of faul Sohar University. He's a guy
who went to ASU and set all types of records,
(00:26):
Hotowl Hero.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie Defensive Player of.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The Year, seven time pro bowler, won Super Bowls not
only with the Ravens, but with the Chiefs, and the
future probably this year Hall of Famer. I'm talking to
existence already because I mean, he's got the accolades to
do it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
My guy, Terrell suggs akat Cecils.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation presented
by Toyota.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Let's go places. Man. I appreciate you ten. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
When I was a kid, I used to watch you.
I watched you as a running back over at the
channels at Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
High, but we get and say you don't claim Chandler,
and it hurts me to the core.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I claimed the city, right, we all Chandler, I claimed
the city. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's all love,
but we we this is the Huskies, man. I mean,
I'm sure you heard about the game. How many years
are there? How many years would I wear? I was
at Hamilton one? So how many years were your Chandler two?
But I graduated from Hamilton? You gotta you just was.
(01:31):
I did two at Chandler and one at at Hamilton.
And when I first moved are Zon, I went to
Corona for a little bit and then I went to
camel Back.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah that was all all right, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How many schools you go to the one that's winning.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The one is I mean, hey, we got the titles.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I graduated there and that's where the rivalry started.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, then you go to a su of course, you know,
Sack records on Sack records. Man, it was a good time.
It's a good time. Of it was a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, let's just you know, just like me, I
started off, you know and born in Minnesota, you know, yeah, uh,
he was born in Minnesota, as well, I was.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Born in Minnesota as well. It's connection all over all through,
that's all say. Yeah, I was a big Vikings fan
with your dad, Brad Jordan and them. But you know
they had that Tony Dungee defense maybe you know what
I'm saying. So that's when I started playing ball. Like
that Minnesota Vikings defense was iconic, you know, John Randall.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Joey Brown back in.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, they had del Rio, you know what I'm saying.
So we had some guys up there, man, and then
we got Randy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So no doubt Randy, Randy Mossa, Chris Carter, that Chris Carter,
you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, Minnesota and team surprised. They ain't want those Super
Bowls yet.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They they're just like I did. We got to n
C Championship and hurts.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, it hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That hurts hurts. That's why you know, I just tin
you're playing seventeen. We may have to find two more.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, you just gotta you gotta get it away.
It's getting good, man, man, you gotta get it way
of getting good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'll say. But then you got to go home and
play for the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh man, you know how that it's good to go
play for your hometown you know what I mean teams
that I mean, Yeah, you have fans that like grow
up that watched you in high school and then you know,
I went to a s U, so, uh, they watched
me in college. It's good to kind of like ride
off in the sunset like front of the whole time. Yeah,
in your hometown city. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You just just you know, go from from growing up
there to yeah, I played for everything in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah I played. That's that's pretty good. Yeah, went to
high school college and you know, played in the Cardinals
for a little bit, and then you know, went to
Kansas City when the.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Super Bowl, when there's another super Bowl to go just
ride off in the sunset. Yea.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They say, quitting while you're ahead is not necessarily quitting.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, hey, man, I I could understand it. I don't
know when the Super yet, but I can understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Stay in there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I got two, I got two one.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh man. I ain't gonna say it's better than seeing
your baby being born. Yeah, but it's close. It's it's close, man,
It's a it's an unimaginable feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, let's let's.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In fact How did it feel like playing in Baltimore
Week two, twenty nineteen with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, man, go back to the beginnings.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was. It was very I was very like emotional
going into the game, but I was like, you know,
we competitive. I wanted to win. I wanted to win bad,
you know what I'm saying. But you know they got it.
That was Lamar's first MVP year, you know what I'm saying,
So you know what I mean, Like he was the
best player in the league that Yeah, you saw me
practice league, yeah, first inter league Yeah, and you saw
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him on adversary Like that jump that he made was
just like whoa right, Like I never I mean the
only jump I seen like that was JJ Watt when
his rookie year he had five sacks and did his
sophomore year he had twenty two. I was like, damn,
I'm like, I probably need to go down there and
(05:11):
work out with him. But if I'm in Houston, I
ain't gonna be doing no working out man. I mean,
I'm just keeping a man like Houston the greatest city
on earth to me, Oh my god, I'm like, dude,
if I go out there, I ain't gonna be working out,
it's probably best. Like God knew what he was doing
when he sent me to Baltimore. He didn't send me
to Miami, didn't send me to Atlanta or Houston Dallas.
(05:34):
Like nah, man, were sending your ass to Baltimore. Yeah,
he's gonna sit your ass down somewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, absolutely all right, So I probably already know
this question. But which one do you value more? Baltimore
Ravens or the Chiefs Super Ravens. Yeah, I mean Ravens
throwing through. But you know, I thought we could get
to because it was the last season Ravens throwing through.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But I when I got took Kansas City, you know,
you's a new team, I'm like, you know, like curious,
like seeing how it's gonna go, because it did become
like a little rivalry over the years. And I see,
I seen why the two teams class because they so alike.
You know what I'm saying. You never crossed paths without
a couple of things in common. And like the locker room,
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it was so relaxed. And you know that organization when
they value their players like that, that's when you're gonna
get good production. Like on the field, you know what
I mean when the front office in the locker room
is in Unison, you know what I'm saying, when you
got that going, magical things that happened, and like when
I got there, it wasn't it was it was just
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different people, but it was the same kind of like team,
same team atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It was dope. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We had the Tyreek Hill we in the locker room,
you know, hooping before practice. You know what I'm saying.
It's like you can't play hard you get hurt in
the locker room like that. Everybody like yeah, like everybody
days would be numbered. So we you know, we just
had a little fun games in the locker room. And
in Kansas City we was playing basketball. In Baltimore's playing
corn hole like every day, you know what I'm saying,
(07:04):
like getting after it straight up competitive tournaments and stuff.
So when you have a good lax locker room and
and your front of office is like being like, ain't sink,
great things happen, man, And that's why those two organizations win. Mann.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I was like, you talk about get hurt. You the
reason why I stop playing basketball in.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The off season. Oh man, you gotta gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's a rumor, though we're not gonna confirm nor deny
anything right concerning that, you know what I mean, you
could have been anything anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Look I remember, I remember you coming. I was like,
I was like, all right, Yeah, I was like, you
know what, guys lay up.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And out you got you gotta just you know, keep
it simple, man. They'll do too much. Man, don't don't
over exude yourself. Absolutely, man. But even then you came back,
You're not like you popped your kellys twice about twice man.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I've never, like god willing, I'll never I'll never
go through that, man, Like I had hurt, so like
you come that real?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, it was. It was hard and you really have
to decide your pain tolerance. And it was like when
I did the first time, it was like I knew
we were on the brink. You know what I'm saying.
We just lost in the AFC Championship, you know what
I'm saying. I knew we were close, and I was like, nah,
I'm not gonna let them do it without me, So
I can't leave me behind, Like I'm not gonna let
(08:22):
them do it without me exactly. And so I just
I just worked as hard as I can to get back, man,
like me and the trainer.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, came back, made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, made the
Pro Bowl playing back. Yeah, computers and like somehow y'all
break down and get stronger on the road.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh man, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It was like a good like validation that, like after
coming up at work like that and then come back
and make a Pro Bowl like that was pretty dope.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Jesus. Yeah, keep keep like whatever it is, gonna keep hiking, guy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, man, you got to especially, you know, when you're young,
like I was like twenty nine when I popped it.
So when you're under thirty, your body still can regularly
like pretty fast, you know what I'm saying. But when
you get to that thirty and up man, them them
Monday's Wall, they be hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I want to think about the uh you know, the
the Ravens uh and the AFC. You know the rivals
that you guys have. The whole division hates everybody, and
I can't I can't get it. The Ravens don't like
the Steelers and also don't like the Browns, and they
also don't like the Bengals. You can't hate everybody, got
to that, man, But you see a lot of you
see you see a lot of Ravens become Steelers, or
(09:28):
a lot of Steelers become the Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like, there's a lot of that. Patrick Queen thing was
like mine. I was like, oh he went not only
to the in the side of the division, but you
hate division.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And rival, Like, oh my god, you can't be a
rival if you keep going to different teams.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Is Joe Flacco know he played for everybody in the
North man, when he go to the Steelers, I'm write
them off. I'm like, I never talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Finally, Okay, the Steelers the one you can't go over.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You cannot have you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Pat McQueen hurt that, that hurt. That hurt.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was like, no, I understand. You know us as players,
when your time is up, when your time is to
go to that bank, cast that check, you want the best,
the best deal. But that would have hurt that you
don't hit the same God exactly exactly, like I don't
get it, but you're right. In that AFC North, everybody
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Allegedly there's too much hate.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But Cleveland have a genuine beef because with you know, yeah,
Baltimore used to be we used to be their team.
So just they Auguden's supposed to be a Cleveland Brown,
ray lewis supposed to be a Cleveland Brown, and Reed's
supposed to be a Cleveland Brown. Me myself, Helloi like
Cleveland is like they kind of like look at us,
(10:41):
Like the girlfriend. I'm saying exactly, you know what I'm saying,
he left me exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like
that's how Cleveland see us. Say I'd be like, I
get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't And it's like, you know, they ain't got
no super Bowls. We got two.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's like, yeah, it's not a Super I mean that's
pretty much summits in my mind. For whatever reason, the
Hall of Fame numbers like and he's a super Bowl winner, Yeah,
but that doesn't make him a great player.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's a great team. That's a great team, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Some guys that have just almost on the cusps shouldn't
really just good players become all of a sudden, the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Players super Bowl team And I'm like, you're not the quarterback,
Like that's not a judging stat for you. You Like,
there's a lot of Super Bowl winners. That's not Hall
of Fame, correct, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And then there's guys like, oh yeah, he's notable. It's like,
you know, five six Pro Bowls and the Super Bowl. Wait,
but he's a he's a defensive player. Okay, I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But in terms in terms of the Hall of Fame,
you know, the case that everybody's claiming.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean, in my mind, you should have been in.
But that's yeah, hey they played it. They got it
wrong last year, but hey they're gonna do it right
this year. Absolutely do it right this year. We feel
him good about it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I would say, just the dynamic that you had between teammates, right,
Like if you say my favorite teammates to Mario Davis,
he was a dog when I first came to the league.
It was John Vilma, Roman Harper, you know, certified monsters
you had.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It was you Ed Reed, ray Lewis. I mean, just
the rapport there, the dynamic who's big bro, who's little bro?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, definitely you know ray Ed or both of the
big bros. You know what I'm saying, hands down, you know,
I mean, they they like the patriarch at a family.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know what I'm saying like we go as they go.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There, we go as they go. So it definitely didn't.
But you know, it's a lot of guys that don't
really get mentioned that are through and through Ravens and
held like HELLOADI you know what I'm saying, Kelly Gregg,
you know what I mean. Uh, One of my favorite
teammates was Bernard Pollard, Like I loved him, Like Big
Shannon shot Man. I wouldn't play with Shannon like Shannon
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was before me. Yeah, yeah, but I do love to he.
I mean you could tell he was a Raven through
and through. Yeah, Jared Johnson, Like we we had guys.
We had guys, man, and like I'm grateful for all
of them because it was like I think Ozzie News
did a great job of like identify who's a Raven.
You know what I'm saying, especially in our golden years,
(13:09):
you know what I mean. So it's like I loved
all my teammates, man, we had all we we we
all are guys. Like majority of the people I played
with straight up Ravens are like locker room guys you love. Yeah,
they fit in on any team.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Speak of locker room culture moments like you have a
welcome to the Ravens like culture you all world, you
get in and you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Got big dogs.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, Like I would say when I first reported the camp,
raid hit me in the face with a pie on TV,
you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, you didn't
get the camp on time. So there was a pie
in my face. Man. So that was definitely it and
definitely probably my first time going up against Jo and
I finally realized I'm like, yeah, I'm not the big
dog anymore. I'm just in college, you know what I mean.
(13:53):
Like I don't remember like in college, like especially in
my last year, I don't remember losing like a past
us drill and I mean and in the one on
one pass rush or like doing team periods, like I
don't remember when I got to Baltimore going against Jail,
I didn't win one. So it was just like I
got the best teacher right now, I got the best
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practice and welcome to the NFL ever right in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So I say, did ja dog, Like did he give
you like game as you were going?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Or but you know, like Jo was a big, gentle giant,
didn't raise his boys, but he was just he lined
up and he was the best. You know what I'm saying.
So he was like he should try this.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You did that first training camp, like training training camp.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Like don't you know like on the dark Night when
Bain is like beating him up, got Batman and talking
to him the whole time. That's like Jail. That was
me and jo every time we begin like, no, you
can't do that up here. You can't do that up here,
young like trun down trying to do all my little movies.
I ain't finna do all that with you, Like like
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Jao was just just good effort, effortless, you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Know what I mean, right, I said that, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean I remember my rookie year. I was going
against Zach Streef. I was like, you know, I'd win
some I'd lose something whatever it was. I was like, Yo,
how could I get better? He's like, I'm not helping you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Training He's like, I'm not helping you. Like we'll talk
about this after training camp, like you're I've seen you
every plane. Yeah, there's nothing in this world that's gonna
make me help you.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I was like, you know, he wasn't threatened by anybody,
so it was just like oh, No, that's that move's
not gonna work up here. Young. I'm just I'm gonna
keep it honest.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Jah before you swipe. Yeah, like yeah, j O Jail
was that he was the man man, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's what I'm over here. Like, dang, he helped from
Jump Street. He's like, once we get the season, I'll
help you. So this week one he's like, yeah, don't
thro that. You gotta throw something else.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Got it, got it?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Got yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Now ja O was he's the man, the man all right.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Think about this year, you know, uh, this year is
Ravens defense. Okay, you know how they doing overall? They do?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
They started out last year, yeah, they was balling last year.
This year, we don't know what the hell was going
on the first game Yeah yeah, and we brung in
you know, the young kid Malachi starts. Yeah. So I
think it's starting to slow down for them now. I think,
you know, just jeling and chemistry. Wives, Like, I don't
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feel like we was on the same page at that
first part.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah. First.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Now after the bye, it seems like they may
have got it fixed. But we'll see. We still got
to play. We still have to playing Cincinnati. You know,
we got. We still gotta play Jamar Chase. I think
he averaged like two fifty on us last year.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So we definitely row.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Joe Burrow maybe back.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Is he may be back. But you see Joe Flako
over there slinging that thing, and he would love, he
would love to come back to Baltimore and just light
it up like Joe Din had a few games. We
did have four hundred yards four tubs. Right he out there,
he out there throwing, forty two years old, out there
talk playing.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He's playing.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So now now we got a problem one of our
own for to come up in here with a deadly receiver,
Oh my god, receiver t Higgins. Both of them, yes,
both of them are problems.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Problems.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, all right, who do you think winning that game?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I gotta go with the Rayvens. I gotta go with
the in Baltimore. I will go with the Raymonds in Cincinnati.
I think it's gonna be. It depends on who shows up,
you know what I mean. Are we gonna have the
defense that we've been playing the past few weeks or
the first one, you know what I mean, the first
few weeks. So we see who shows up.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, well, okay, we can work with that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
All right, let's let's get to these good old AFC
rival not ac rifle topics. I think that's where I
want to go next, is uh my favorite part, just
talk about straight ball. I'm gonna ask you questions about
quarterbacks you've sacked in your career, and you can give
me the career. You know your answer to this? You
know how many quarterbacks you've sacked in your career?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Do I know how many?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
How many?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Like, I've sacked fifty quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
No? I thought that was a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
No, I did not know seventy eight. I sacked seventy
eight quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Wow. Wow, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, oh good, that's crazy.
I was like, dang, I was like, I checked fifty quarters.
You know how many that is? Seventy eight is wild?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Name the first quarterback you sacked in your career? It
was Pittsburgh with it? Who is it?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Brunell, Tommy Maddick, Tommy Maddox, Tommy Maddox. That I knew it.
I knew, I knew it was I was I see
this guy. Yeah, I say it almost all out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I almost got the ball out. I hate that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I used to. I used to get yelled at, like, oh,
I mean they was happy for me. That was my
first one, but everyone after that, like I was just
tackling the quarterback ray Lo. It was like that's not
good enough. Get the ball out, get the ball out.
So we want the ball, Yeah, we want the ball.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But I mean the ball was coming out.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It was coming out. It was coming out.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
How you better than that, Like if the ball was
coming out, he just regripped.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Right right, he just you know, he got lucky and
fell on it probably you know what I mean. But wow,
that was the first one. I have so many of those,
like like the quarters or like I hate when like
you hit him as the throwing and somebody catches it,
so it's not a sack. Phone with nomore, it's an interception.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh man, all right, this Tommy Medick sat When did
it happen?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That's opening day two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
The first quarter?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, quarter, first quarter.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that was like in the red zone. We just
dropped him and I'm here to stay. Yeah. That was
like in the red zone too. Oh man, that great one.
That some nostalgia going back then. The last quarterback you
sacked in your career Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Is that right week seventeen, Philip River twenty nineteen, Yeah,
Philip Rivers, that's when I that's when I passed my
is wareing the Marcus Wade was there too, you know,
you being there and I'm way in his ninety four.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
N Yeah. Uh foe. Can you name the top five
quarterbacks you sacked your career? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, of course, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manny.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh do you know who's sacked the most? And yeah,
there Ben Roethlisberger. Okay, yeah, I know that.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Second on the list, Uh, who I sacked them? Anybody
from Cleveland? But no, probably Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Could be the right team and he did play for us.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Isn't edtie Andy Dalton boom wow wow?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And then and then you're tied with all the guys,
you know, the Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, phild Rivers, right down.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The hill, Blake Bortles Okay, okay, yeah, ain't good.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But it was always the problem for us.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Say, look that that Matt Ryan, just because it's close
to me.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I was like, yeah, Matt Ryan met Maran is a
good guy, you know, like he's he's gonna be forever
good in my book and apparently yours too. Right, first one,
he's the most I've ever seen. Uh, you know, you've
sacked the guy seventeen times.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's crazy. I've sacked Matt Ryan twenty three times.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, yeah, you're gonna
hold on to that ball now, this headlock, Yeah, that's
a flag today, But definitely a flag. That whole that
whole play is a flag today. I might be suspended.
Like they they they got they they they treat these
these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Man, Look this tells me you you gave everything. Oh man,
Like he was standing there was a hippie shoulder go.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You know he has like a little rivalry between him
and Joe because they was in the same draft. So
whenever we played them, you know, you got to have
your your brother's back. Yeah, and so we were trying
to We're definitely trying to do some things to them.
You know what I'm saying. We got we got our
boys back. Now.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Right, out of all the quarterbacks, who's the hardest to sack?
You can't say Ben Roethlisberger because you shocked him seventeen times.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Who's the hardest? Vic Michael Vick Like, yeah, Michael Vick,
because you had you had Atlanta Mike too. I had
Atlanta Mike. I had Atlanta Mike. So Michael Vick was
very difficult for the simple fact that he loved to
play backyard football. Like he can send to you and
he's like oh, and it's like excuse me. And it's
like people don't understand, Like like Vic got kind of
(22:26):
like vilified for the way he played. They you know,
off itsive coordinator. They he's supposed to be a pocket quarterback.
I want him to let the play developed. I'm like, Doug,
you got a quarterback that can get you in the
team out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Rights.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's and now they're seeing it now now it's like
he was the glimpse of evolution. Yes, yes, absolutely. It
started with you know, they would say Randall cutting him.
You know, he was a very fast, you know, uh
it lousive quarterback. But Michael Vick is it, you know,
with the proper type.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They did say that about Doug Flutie, like yeah, you
know what I'm saying, or Steve Young stiling for his life.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And they was like, oh,
he's he's a scrambled, a good athlete, but they were
Michael Vick was doing it. It was like, oh, he's
like you don't let the play develop long enough. I'm like, no,
that boy out there dangerous. That boy out there danger
He won like a whole playoff game by himself. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, it was the Vikings.
You know, we all saw that, and he went up
there and be who was it was? It was it
(23:19):
Philly when they was like the top dog. I think
it was like victim.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
There was a time when it was him, Algie Crumpler,
I think Mike.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Turner, Michael burn and Turner. Yeah, that team was dangerous.
They had rowdy white Yeah yeah, yeah, crazy rowdy. They
had rowdy and I think I don't think. I don't
think who.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
This is? This is this younger, Yeah, this is younger. Yeah,
but yeah, they was dope.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Now it was going absolutely fed. All right, who's the quarterback?
You wish you would have gotten?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Who's the quarterback? I wish I would have got.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I don't think I ever. There wasn't one that I
didn't that I didn't get, Like, I think I got
them all.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I didn't get Peyton.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I never got no. I played like when I first
got in when it was at Indian Napolis. I think
it was his last year. He had the neck injury,
so it was like Carpenter or whoever took over for
And then I saw him in Denver and they had
me playing like.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The nose technique and there was no shot, bro.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We were playing this this automatic front where I was
like playing a three technique but I have to slide
to a nose. I think it was like last like
mcgahee's like greatest game as a dinner Bronc.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They were for like two something. I remember.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I was like, I remember looking at Cedric Ellis our
detail all the time. I was like, said, don't let
me switch to the nose. He's like, play your position, bro,
And I never.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Forget him that. I was like, Bro, you can't. I
was two hundred and eighty pounds. I'm not meant to
slide to a nose.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And this was when they were still in too times.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They played real running running exactly that power double T.
It was I'm looking I'm looking at him like help me,
and he's like he's like this, play your spot, bro,
play your spot. Bro, He's like and not even know.
I'm sorry. He's like, you just got to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's so out, he sold you out, Like this is
not winning.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm a four eye, I'm a five, I'm a six,
I'm seven. I'm not a three.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Not down there. Yeah, you're like you you're a big nose.
You go get one, you go get one. You get
somebody to do that. Don't be doing it. You know
what I'm saying. I'm on this edge, man, life is good.
I was like, I'm trying to be an edge. Yeah,
I'm trying to be They want me at a four eye.
I'm a proved that I'm edged. Like I said, it's
noisy in there, man, it's noisy down there.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Would you last, what would you consider yourself more of
a defensive end or outside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I consider myself more defensive end. Okay, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So you had a lot of drops in.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There, Yeah, I considered myself a defense in but like
you know, we played three four Yeah you're yeah, so
it was pretty much like drops and all that like
mixed in. But I consent myself.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I mean that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's why I throw the divide him like I'm like,
if you're a four eye to a seven defensive end
like you if you were if you are.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Seven to a nine yeah, like olb yeah you straight
up off outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah okay yeah. I was like, you know, back back then,
it's like, oh he's dropping. I was like, I don't
know why they got him dropping. Yeah, it's just kind
of just to switch it up. Yeah, so you know,
they never know what the back don't know he's always coming.
He's always dripping it just to kind of throw it off.
You know, they all think they genius is offensive coordinator
or whatever. I was like, de coordinator always want to
be like, hey, gets you in the position. Best position
(26:26):
is dropping to a hook so flat.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah quarter flat man, I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You figure that out?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like all right? Cool? Like I guess I guess it
throws out Like they don't know where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Just talk about longevity because now I'm thirty six, you know,
thirty thirty five, thirty six.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They look at you like you old. I'm like, bro,
I'm going I'm leaning the driver.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I feel good to be that young.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Trust me, you took pride.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
In being downin late to your career where you know,
seventeen eight, seventeen seasons, and of course we talked about
the two Achille tears one, twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, you know,
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Come back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have you know eight sacks at thirty five you had
eleven sacks, thirty six seven sacks? You know you finished
You finished the last season with six and a half,
you know at thirty seven?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Lower Yeah, put it bad back, put it bad back.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Hey, nothing's clean.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Nothing's clean.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll say, how'd you do it for thirty six and
thirty seven? Bro oh man?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Like you really have to. You really got to take
control of your diet, like you just can't eat anything anymore.
Those days, I'm saying, those days are over, you know
what I mean. It's really you have to be on
a real strict diet and cut out like sugar man.
Like I was like on a strik water diet. Like
my last two years was like I didn't drink no sodas,
(27:47):
no juice. It was just like water, you know what
I'm saying, Just so I could recover fast, you know,
I mean, you know you'll have your muscles hydrated and
all that. So I got on a real streak like
water diet and I cut out me. So I think
that helped waste you pescatarian I went. I tried to
go vegan, but I wasn't giving up cheese. I was like, nah,
(28:08):
I was like, I'm gonna give up meat. I ain't
giving up cheese, so and they was like and then
I still needed protein. So I had to get back
into eating like shrimps and lobsters and stuff like that.
But it was like, I don't eat. I gave up
meat like my last two years. So that helped commit.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That help.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I could almost give up a red meat situation. But
the way Lamb calls.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Me man, that stuff is nice. Especially you know, we
got a football game in Madrid. I had some Lamb
out there and I was like, oh, choy man at night,
just cut right through it. It was nice and lean,
it was. It was great, you know Lamb chops especially
at like Mastros, you know what I'm saying or something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Mass shirt that's the one in Scott's Deale strictly there.
But we need to get to dessert.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
The butter case. I forgot about that. I ain't had
that in like a year or years. I gotta go
probably No, no, you don't. I'll be the big bat
boat then. Yeah, Buttercake, I forgot all about it. I
forgot all about I'll.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Let's go places. Man. I appreciate you ten. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
When I was a kid, I used to watch you.
I watched you as a running back over at the
channels at Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
High, but we get and say you don't claim Chandler,
and it hurts me to the core.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I claimed the city, right, we all Chandler, I claimed
the city. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's all love,
but we we this is the Huskies, man. I mean,
I'm sure you heard about the game. How many years
are there? How many years would I wear? I was
at Hamilton one? So how many years were your Chandler two?
But I graduated from Hamilton? You gotta you just was.
(01:31):
I did two at Chandler and one at at Hamilton.
And when I first moved are Zon, I went to
Corona for a little bit and then I went to
camel Back.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah that was all all right, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How many schools you go to the one that's winning.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The one is I mean, hey, we got the titles.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I graduated there and that's where the rivalry started.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, then you go to a su of course, you know,
Sack records on Sack records. Man, it was a good time.
It's a good time. Of it was a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, let's just you know, just like me, I
started off, you know and born in Minnesota, you know, yeah, uh,
he was born in Minnesota, as well, I was.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Born in Minnesota as well. It's connection all over all through,
that's all say. Yeah, I was a big Vikings fan
with your dad, Brad Jordan and them. But you know
they had that Tony Dungee defense maybe you know what
I'm saying. So that's when I started playing ball. Like
that Minnesota Vikings defense was iconic, you know, John Randall.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Joey Brown back in.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, they had del Rio, you know what I'm saying.
So we had some guys up there, man, and then
we got Randy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So no doubt Randy, Randy Mossa, Chris Carter, that Chris Carter,
you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, Minnesota and team surprised. They ain't want those Super
Bowls yet.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They they're just like I did. We got to n
C Championship and hurts.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, it hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That hurts hurts. That's why you know, I just tin
you're playing seventeen. We may have to find two more.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, you just gotta you gotta get it away.
It's getting good, man, man, you gotta get it way
of getting good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'll say. But then you got to go home and
play for the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh man, you know how that it's good to go
play for your hometown you know what I mean teams
that I mean, Yeah, you have fans that like grow
up that watched you in high school and then you know,
I went to a s U, so, uh, they watched
me in college. It's good to kind of like ride
off in the sunset like front of the whole time. Yeah,
in your hometown city. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You just just you know, go from from growing up
there to yeah, I played for everything in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah I played. That's that's pretty good. Yeah, went to
high school college and you know, played in the Cardinals
for a little bit, and then you know, went to
Kansas City when the.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Super Bowl, when there's another super Bowl to go just
ride off in the sunset. Yea.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They say, quitting while you're ahead is not necessarily quitting.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, hey, man, I I could understand it. I don't
know when the Super yet, but I can understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Stay in there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I got two, I got two one.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh man. I ain't gonna say it's better than seeing
your baby being born. Yeah, but it's close. It's it's close, man,
It's a it's an unimaginable feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, let's let's.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In fact How did it feel like playing in Baltimore
Week two, twenty nineteen with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, man, go back to the beginnings.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was. It was very I was very like emotional
going into the game, but I was like, you know,
we competitive. I wanted to win. I wanted to win bad,
you know what I'm saying. But you know they got it.
That was Lamar's first MVP year, you know what I'm saying,
So you know what I mean, Like he was the
best player in the league that Yeah, you saw me
practice league, yeah, first inter league Yeah, and you saw
(04:51):
him on adversary Like that jump that he made was
just like whoa right, Like I never I mean the
only jump I seen like that was JJ Watt when
his rookie year he had five sacks and did his
sophomore year he had twenty two. I was like, damn,
I'm like, I probably need to go down there and
(05:11):
work out with him. But if I'm in Houston, I
ain't gonna be doing no working out man. I mean,
I'm just keeping a man like Houston the greatest city
on earth to me, Oh my god, I'm like, dude,
if I go out there, I ain't gonna be working out,
it's probably best. Like God knew what he was doing
when he sent me to Baltimore. He didn't send me
to Miami, didn't send me to Atlanta or Houston Dallas.
(05:34):
Like nah, man, were sending your ass to Baltimore. Yeah,
he's gonna sit your ass down somewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, absolutely all right, So I probably already know
this question. But which one do you value more? Baltimore
Ravens or the Chiefs Super Ravens. Yeah, I mean Ravens
throwing through. But you know, I thought we could get
to because it was the last season Ravens throwing through.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But I when I got took Kansas City, you know,
you's a new team, I'm like, you know, like curious,
like seeing how it's gonna go, because it did become
like a little rivalry over the years. And I see,
I seen why the two teams class because they so alike.
You know what I'm saying. You never crossed paths without
a couple of things in common. And like the locker room,
(06:16):
it was so relaxed. And you know that organization when
they value their players like that, that's when you're gonna
get good production. Like on the field, you know what
I mean when the front office in the locker room
is in Unison, you know what I'm saying, when you
got that going, magical things that happened, and like when
I got there, it wasn't it was it was just
(06:37):
different people, but it was the same kind of like team,
same team atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It was dope. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We had the Tyreek Hill we in the locker room,
you know, hooping before practice. You know what I'm saying.
It's like you can't play hard you get hurt in
the locker room like that. Everybody like yeah, like everybody
days would be numbered. So we you know, we just
had a little fun games in the locker room. And
in Kansas City we was playing basketball. In Baltimore's playing
corn hole like every day, you know what I'm saying,
(07:04):
like getting after it straight up competitive tournaments and stuff.
So when you have a good lax locker room and
and your front of office is like being like, ain't sink,
great things happen, man, And that's why those two organizations win. Mann.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I was like, you talk about get hurt. You the
reason why I stop playing basketball in.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The off season. Oh man, you gotta gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's a rumor, though we're not gonna confirm nor deny
anything right concerning that, you know what I mean, you
could have been anything anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Look I remember, I remember you coming. I was like,
I was like, all right, Yeah, I was like, you
know what, guys lay up.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And out you got you gotta just you know, keep
it simple, man. They'll do too much. Man, don't don't
over exude yourself. Absolutely, man. But even then you came back,
You're not like you popped your kellys twice about twice man.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I've never, like god willing, I'll never I'll never
go through that, man, Like I had hurt, so like
you come that real?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, it was. It was hard and you really have
to decide your pain tolerance. And it was like when
I did the first time, it was like I knew
we were on the brink. You know what I'm saying.
We just lost in the AFC Championship, you know what
I'm saying. I knew we were close, and I was like, nah,
I'm not gonna let them do it without me, So
I can't leave me behind, Like I'm not gonna let
(08:22):
them do it without me exactly. And so I just
I just worked as hard as I can to get back, man,
like me and the trainer.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, came back, made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, made the
Pro Bowl playing back. Yeah, computers and like somehow y'all
break down and get stronger on the road.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh man, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It was like a good like validation that, like after
coming up at work like that and then come back
and make a Pro Bowl like that was pretty dope.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Jesus. Yeah, keep keep like whatever it is, gonna keep hiking, guy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, man, you got to especially, you know, when you're young,
like I was like twenty nine when I popped it.
So when you're under thirty, your body still can regularly
like pretty fast, you know what I'm saying. But when
you get to that thirty and up man, them them
Monday's Wall, they be hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I want to think about the uh you know, the
the Ravens uh and the AFC. You know the rivals
that you guys have. The whole division hates everybody, and
I can't I can't get it. The Ravens don't like
the Steelers and also don't like the Browns, and they
also don't like the Bengals. You can't hate everybody, got
to that, man, But you see a lot of you
see you see a lot of Ravens become Steelers, or
(09:28):
a lot of Steelers become the Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like, there's a lot of that. Patrick Queen thing was
like mine. I was like, oh he went not only
to the in the side of the division, but you
hate division.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And rival, Like, oh my god, you can't be a
rival if you keep going to different teams.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Is Joe Flacco know he played for everybody in the
North man, when he go to the Steelers, I'm write
them off. I'm like, I never talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Finally, Okay, the Steelers the one you can't go over.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You cannot have you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Pat McQueen hurt that, that hurt. That hurt.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was like, no, I understand. You know us as players,
when your time is up, when your time is to
go to that bank, cast that check, you want the best,
the best deal. But that would have hurt that you
don't hit the same God exactly exactly, like I don't
get it, but you're right. In that AFC North, everybody
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Allegedly there's too much hate.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But Cleveland have a genuine beef because with you know, yeah,
Baltimore used to be we used to be their team.
So just they Auguden's supposed to be a Cleveland Brown,
ray lewis supposed to be a Cleveland Brown, and Reed's
supposed to be a Cleveland Brown. Me myself, Helloi like
Cleveland is like they kind of like look at us,
(10:41):
Like the girlfriend. I'm saying exactly, you know what I'm saying,
he left me exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like
that's how Cleveland see us. Say I'd be like, I
get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't And it's like, you know, they ain't got
no super Bowls. We got two.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's like, yeah, it's not a Super I mean that's
pretty much summits in my mind. For whatever reason, the
Hall of Fame numbers like and he's a super Bowl winner, Yeah,
but that doesn't make him a great player.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's a great team. That's a great team, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Some guys that have just almost on the cusps shouldn't
really just good players become all of a sudden, the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Players super Bowl team And I'm like, you're not the quarterback,
Like that's not a judging stat for you. You Like,
there's a lot of Super Bowl winners. That's not Hall
of Fame, correct, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And then there's guys like, oh yeah, he's notable. It's like,
you know, five six Pro Bowls and the Super Bowl. Wait,
but he's a he's a defensive player. Okay, I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But in terms in terms of the Hall of Fame,
you know, the case that everybody's claiming.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean, in my mind, you should have been in.
But that's yeah, hey they played it. They got it
wrong last year, but hey they're gonna do it right
this year. Absolutely do it right this year. We feel
him good about it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I would say, just the dynamic that you had between teammates, right,
Like if you say my favorite teammates to Mario Davis,
he was a dog when I first came to the league.
It was John Vilma, Roman Harper, you know, certified monsters
you had.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It was you Ed Reed, ray Lewis. I mean, just
the rapport there, the dynamic who's big bro, who's little bro?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, definitely you know ray Ed or both of the
big bros. You know what I'm saying, hands down, you know,
I mean, they they like the patriarch at a family.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know what I'm saying like we go as they go.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There, we go as they go. So it definitely didn't.
But you know, it's a lot of guys that don't
really get mentioned that are through and through Ravens and
held like HELLOADI you know what I'm saying, Kelly Gregg,
you know what I mean. Uh, One of my favorite
teammates was Bernard Pollard, Like I loved him, Like Big
Shannon shot Man. I wouldn't play with Shannon like Shannon
(12:47):
was before me. Yeah, yeah, but I do love to he.
I mean you could tell he was a Raven through
and through. Yeah, Jared Johnson, Like we we had guys.
We had guys, man, and like I'm grateful for all
of them because it was like I think Ozzie News
did a great job of like identify who's a Raven.
You know what I'm saying, especially in our golden years,
(13:09):
you know what I mean. So it's like I loved
all my teammates, man, we had all we we we
all are guys. Like majority of the people I played
with straight up Ravens are like locker room guys you love. Yeah,
they fit in on any team.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Speak of locker room culture moments like you have a
welcome to the Ravens like culture you all world, you
get in and you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Got big dogs.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, Like I would say when I first reported the camp,
raid hit me in the face with a pie on TV,
you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, you didn't
get the camp on time. So there was a pie
in my face. Man. So that was definitely it and
definitely probably my first time going up against Jo and
I finally realized I'm like, yeah, I'm not the big
dog anymore. I'm just in college, you know what I mean.
(13:53):
Like I don't remember like in college, like especially in
my last year, I don't remember losing like a past
us drill and I mean and in the one on
one pass rush or like doing team periods, like I
don't remember when I got to Baltimore going against Jail,
I didn't win one. So it was just like I
got the best teacher right now, I got the best
(14:16):
practice and welcome to the NFL ever right in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So I say, did ja dog, Like did he give
you like game as you were going?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Or but you know, like Jo was a big, gentle giant,
didn't raise his boys, but he was just he lined
up and he was the best. You know what I'm saying.
So he was like he should try this.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You did that first training camp, like training training camp.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Like don't you know like on the dark Night when
Bain is like beating him up, got Batman and talking
to him the whole time. That's like Jail. That was
me and jo every time we begin like, no, you
can't do that up here. You can't do that up here,
young like trun down trying to do all my little movies.
I ain't finna do all that with you, Like like
(14:59):
Jao was just just good effort, effortless, you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Know what I mean, right, I said that, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean I remember my rookie year. I was going
against Zach Streef. I was like, you know, I'd win
some I'd lose something whatever it was. I was like, Yo,
how could I get better? He's like, I'm not helping you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Training He's like, I'm not helping you. Like we'll talk
about this after training camp, like you're I've seen you
every plane. Yeah, there's nothing in this world that's gonna
make me help you.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I was like, you know, he wasn't threatened by anybody,
so it was just like oh, No, that's that move's
not gonna work up here. Young. I'm just I'm gonna
keep it honest.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Jah before you swipe. Yeah, like yeah, j O Jail
was that he was the man man, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's what I'm over here. Like, dang, he helped from
Jump Street. He's like, once we get the season, I'll
help you. So this week one he's like, yeah, don't
thro that. You gotta throw something else.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Got it, got it?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Got yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Now ja O was he's the man, the man all right.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Think about this year, you know, uh, this year is
Ravens defense. Okay, you know how they doing overall? They do?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
They started out last year, yeah, they was balling last year.
This year, we don't know what the hell was going
on the first game Yeah yeah, and we brung in
you know, the young kid Malachi starts. Yeah. So I
think it's starting to slow down for them now. I think,
you know, just jeling and chemistry. Wives, Like, I don't
(16:26):
feel like we was on the same page at that
first part.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah. First.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Now after the bye, it seems like they may
have got it fixed. But we'll see. We still got
to play. We still have to playing Cincinnati. You know,
we got. We still gotta play Jamar Chase. I think
he averaged like two fifty on us last year.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So we definitely row.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Joe Burrow maybe back.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Is he may be back. But you see Joe Flako
over there slinging that thing, and he would love, he
would love to come back to Baltimore and just light
it up like Joe Din had a few games. We
did have four hundred yards four tubs. Right he out there,
he out there throwing, forty two years old, out there
talk playing.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He's playing.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So now now we got a problem one of our
own for to come up in here with a deadly receiver,
Oh my god, receiver t Higgins. Both of them, yes,
both of them are problems.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Problems.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, all right, who do you think winning that game?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I gotta go with the Rayvens. I gotta go with
the in Baltimore. I will go with the Raymonds in Cincinnati.
I think it's gonna be. It depends on who shows up,
you know what I mean. Are we gonna have the
defense that we've been playing the past few weeks or
the first one, you know what I mean, the first
few weeks. So we see who shows up.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, well, okay, we can work with that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
All right, let's let's get to these good old AFC
rival not ac rifle topics. I think that's where I
want to go next, is uh my favorite part, just
talk about straight ball. I'm gonna ask you questions about
quarterbacks you've sacked in your career, and you can give
me the career. You know your answer to this? You
know how many quarterbacks you've sacked in your career?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Do I know how many?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
How many?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Like, I've sacked fifty quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
No? I thought that was a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
No, I did not know seventy eight. I sacked seventy
eight quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Wow. Wow, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, oh good, that's crazy.
I was like, dang, I was like, I checked fifty quarters.
You know how many that is? Seventy eight is wild?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Name the first quarterback you sacked in your career? It
was Pittsburgh with it? Who is it?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Brunell, Tommy Maddick, Tommy Maddox, Tommy Maddox. That I knew it.
I knew, I knew it was I was I see
this guy. Yeah, I say it almost all out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I almost got the ball out. I hate that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I used to. I used to get yelled at, like, oh,
I mean they was happy for me. That was my
first one, but everyone after that, like I was just
tackling the quarterback ray Lo. It was like that's not
good enough. Get the ball out, get the ball out.
So we want the ball, Yeah, we want the ball.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But I mean the ball was coming out.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It was coming out. It was coming out.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
How you better than that, Like if the ball was
coming out, he just regripped.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Right right, he just you know, he got lucky and
fell on it probably you know what I mean. But wow,
that was the first one. I have so many of those,
like like the quarters or like I hate when like
you hit him as the throwing and somebody catches it,
so it's not a sack. Phone with nomore, it's an interception.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh man, all right, this Tommy Medick sat When did
it happen?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That's opening day two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
The first quarter?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, quarter, first quarter.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that was like in the red zone. We just
dropped him and I'm here to stay. Yeah. That was
like in the red zone too. Oh man, that great one.
That some nostalgia going back then. The last quarterback you
sacked in your career Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Is that right week seventeen, Philip River twenty nineteen, Yeah,
Philip Rivers, that's when I that's when I passed my
is wareing the Marcus Wade was there too, you know,
you being there and I'm way in his ninety four.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
N Yeah. Uh foe. Can you name the top five
quarterbacks you sacked your career? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, of course, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manny.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh do you know who's sacked the most? And yeah,
there Ben Roethlisberger. Okay, yeah, I know that.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Second on the list, Uh, who I sacked them? Anybody
from Cleveland? But no, probably Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Could be the right team and he did play for us.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Isn't edtie Andy Dalton boom wow wow?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And then and then you're tied with all the guys,
you know, the Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, phild Rivers, right down.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The hill, Blake Bortles Okay, okay, yeah, ain't good.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But it was always the problem for us.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Say, look that that Matt Ryan, just because it's close
to me.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I was like, yeah, Matt Ryan met Maran is a
good guy, you know, like he's he's gonna be forever
good in my book and apparently yours too. Right, first one,
he's the most I've ever seen. Uh, you know, you've
sacked the guy seventeen times.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's crazy. I've sacked Matt Ryan twenty three times.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, yeah, you're gonna
hold on to that ball now, this headlock, Yeah, that's
a flag today, But definitely a flag. That whole that
whole play is a flag today. I might be suspended.
Like they they they got they they they treat these
these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Man, Look this tells me you you gave everything. Oh man,
Like he was standing there was a hippie shoulder go.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You know he has like a little rivalry between him
and Joe because they was in the same draft. So
whenever we played them, you know, you got to have
your your brother's back. Yeah, and so we were trying
to We're definitely trying to do some things to them.
You know what I'm saying. We got we got our
boys back. Now.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Right, out of all the quarterbacks, who's the hardest to sack?
You can't say Ben Roethlisberger because you shocked him seventeen times.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Who's the hardest? Vic Michael Vick Like, yeah, Michael Vick,
because you had you had Atlanta Mike too. I had
Atlanta Mike. I had Atlanta Mike. So Michael Vick was
very difficult for the simple fact that he loved to
play backyard football. Like he can send to you and
he's like oh, and it's like excuse me. And it's
like people don't understand, Like like Vic got kind of
(22:26):
like vilified for the way he played. They you know,
off itsive coordinator. They he's supposed to be a pocket quarterback.
I want him to let the play developed. I'm like, Doug,
you got a quarterback that can get you in the
team out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Rights.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's and now they're seeing it now now it's like
he was the glimpse of evolution. Yes, yes, absolutely. It
started with you know, they would say Randall cutting him.
You know, he was a very fast, you know, uh
it lousive quarterback. But Michael Vick is it, you know,
with the proper type.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They did say that about Doug Flutie, like yeah, you
know what I'm saying, or Steve Young stiling for his life.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And they was like, oh,
he's he's a scrambled, a good athlete, but they were
Michael Vick was doing it. It was like, oh, he's
like you don't let the play develop long enough. I'm like, no,
that boy out there dangerous. That boy out there danger
He won like a whole playoff game by himself. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, it was the Vikings.
You know, we all saw that, and he went up
there and be who was it was? It was it
(23:19):
Philly when they was like the top dog. I think
it was like victim.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
There was a time when it was him, Algie Crumpler,
I think Mike.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Turner, Michael burn and Turner. Yeah, that team was dangerous.
They had rowdy white Yeah yeah, yeah, crazy rowdy. They
had rowdy and I think I don't think. I don't
think who.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
This is? This is this younger, Yeah, this is younger. Yeah,
but yeah, they was dope.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Now it was going absolutely fed. All right, who's the quarterback?
You wish you would have gotten?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Who's the quarterback? I wish I would have got.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I don't think I ever. There wasn't one that I
didn't that I didn't get, Like, I think I got
them all.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I didn't get Peyton.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I never got no. I played like when I first
got in when it was at Indian Napolis. I think
it was his last year. He had the neck injury,
so it was like Carpenter or whoever took over for
And then I saw him in Denver and they had
me playing like.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
The nose technique and there was no shot, bro.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We were playing this this automatic front where I was
like playing a three technique but I have to slide
to a nose. I think it was like last like
mcgahee's like greatest game as a dinner Bronc.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They were for like two something. I remember.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I was like, I remember looking at Cedric Ellis our
detail all the time. I was like, said, don't let
me switch to the nose. He's like, play your position, bro,
And I never.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Forget him that. I was like, Bro, you can't. I
was two hundred and eighty pounds. I'm not meant to
slide to a nose.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And this was when they were still in too times.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They played real running running exactly that power double T.
It was I'm looking I'm looking at him like help me,
and he's like he's like this, play your spot, bro,
play your spot. Bro, He's like and not even know.
I'm sorry. He's like, you just got to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's so out, he sold you out, Like this is
not winning.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm a four eye, I'm a five, I'm a six,
I'm seven. I'm not a three.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Not down there. Yeah, you're like you you're a big nose.
You go get one, you go get one. You get
somebody to do that. Don't be doing it. You know
what I'm saying. I'm on this edge, man, life is good.
I was like, I'm trying to be an edge. Yeah,
I'm trying to be They want me at a four eye.
I'm a proved that I'm edged. Like I said, it's
noisy in there, man, it's noisy down there.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Would you last, what would you consider yourself more of
a defensive end or outside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I consider myself more defensive end. Okay, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So you had a lot of drops in.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There, Yeah, I considered myself a defense in but like
you know, we played three four Yeah you're yeah, so
it was pretty much like drops and all that like
mixed in. But I consent myself.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I mean that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's why I throw the divide him like I'm like,
if you're a four eye to a seven defensive end
like you if you were if you are.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Seven to a nine yeah, like olb yeah you straight
up off outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah okay yeah. I was like, you know, back back then,
it's like, oh he's dropping. I was like, I don't
know why they got him dropping. Yeah, it's just kind
of just to switch it up. Yeah, so you know,
they never know what the back don't know he's always coming.
He's always dripping it just to kind of throw it off.
You know, they all think they genius is offensive coordinator
or whatever. I was like, de coordinator always want to
be like, hey, gets you in the position. Best position
(26:26):
is dropping to a hook so flat.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah quarter flat man, I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You figure that out?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like all right? Cool? Like I guess I guess it
throws out Like they don't know where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Just talk about longevity because now I'm thirty six, you know,
thirty thirty five, thirty six.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They look at you like you old. I'm like, bro,
I'm going I'm leaning the driver.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I feel good to be that young.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Trust me, you took pride.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
In being downin late to your career where you know,
seventeen eight, seventeen seasons, and of course we talked about
the two Achille tears one, twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, you know,
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Come back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have you know eight sacks at thirty five you had
eleven sacks, thirty six seven sacks? You know you finished
You finished the last season with six and a half,
you know at thirty seven?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Lower Yeah, put it bad back, put it bad back.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Hey, nothing's clean.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Nothing's clean.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll say, how'd you do it for thirty six and
thirty seven? Bro oh man?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Like you really have to. You really got to take
control of your diet, like you just can't eat anything anymore.
Those days, I'm saying, those days are over, you know
what I mean. It's really you have to be on
a real strict diet and cut out like sugar man.
Like I was like on a strik water diet. Like
my last two years was like I didn't drink no sodas,
(27:47):
no juice. It was just like water, you know what
I'm saying, Just so I could recover fast, you know,
I mean, you know you'll have your muscles hydrated and
all that. So I got on a real streak like
water diet and I cut out me. So I think
that helped waste you pescatarian I went. I tried to
go vegan, but I wasn't giving up cheese. I was like, nah,
(28:08):
I was like, I'm gonna give up meat. I ain't
giving up cheese, so and they was like and then
I still needed protein. So I had to get back
into eating like shrimps and lobsters and stuff like that.
But it was like, I don't eat. I gave up
meat like my last two years. So that helped commit.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That help.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I could almost give up a red meat situation. But
the way Lamb calls.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Me man, that stuff is nice. Especially you know, we
got a football game in Madrid. I had some Lamb
out there and I was like, oh, choy man at night,
just cut right through it. It was nice and lean,
it was. It was great, you know Lamb chops especially
at like Mastros, you know what I'm saying or something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Mass shirt that's the one in Scott's Deale strictly there.
But we need to get to dessert.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
The butter case. I forgot about that. I ain't had
that in like a year or years. I gotta go
probably No, no, you don't. I'll be the big bat
boat then. Yeah, Buttercake, I forgot all about it. I
forgot all about I'll.
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and I can get big bats. But I appreciate you
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