NFL Fantasy Football Podcast: Potential Cap Casualties + DJ’s Mock Draft 2.0

Marcas Grant and Michael F. Florio are joined by Matt Okada for the latest podcast. They start the show by discussing the talented players who could potentially be cut by their teams to clear cap space. Okada explains why Alvin Kamara, Mike Williams, and Nick Chubb are at risk of being cut.

After the break, the guys review Daniel Jeremiah’s 2024 mock draft 2.0 and talk about how they would rank the incoming rookies if they are actually drafted at those spots (20:45). To wrap the show, Grant and Florio share their ideas to improve pro sports all-star games (45:13).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, February twenty first, twenty twenty four.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, or we should
probably start exercising again. It's me and your man, nam
G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio Lakwan Jones.

(00:23):
Not with us, he's off doing actual work this week.
Of course, as you probably know if you follow the show,
he is a researcher for NFL Media and he is
down in New Orleans just hanging out eating seafood and beignets. No,
apparently he's not. Apparently, he actually is doing some work
around some of the HBCU goings on down there for football.
I know he's there with Steve Wish, Bucky Brooks, Charles Davis,

(00:46):
among others. So we are going to prime him for
information when he returns about who he saw and what
he likes. But in the meantime I play to talk
about I mean, Floria. I know this is an audio
only podcast, but I'm proud of you. You are rocking
a Golden State Warriors city hoodie right now. We talked
a little bit about that before the show. But in

(01:09):
his place, hey, ye out, at least with us for
a little while. It's one and only Matt Oconda. Matt,
it's good to have you here, man. How you doing, Yeah,
it's good to be here. It's the NFL off season,
which you know has its its buses and it's minuses,
mostly minuses because there's no football.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But other than that, great.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, So Matt wrote a column. We'll dive into that
in just a little bit. We're also going to go
through Daniel Jeremiah's Mock Draft two point zero because it
is mock draft season, of course, and Florida and I
will talk about some of the interesting names and whether
we like some of the landing spots. Plus we may
talk about some All Star games, because the NBA All
Star Game just happened, and Florida, you said you don't

(01:48):
really watch All Star games anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, I'm not in. I love Gill's Challenge, like I
watched Saturday Night for the NBA. I love the home
run Derby, I watched Grownman play Dog Year, But the
All Star Games themselves not a fan. Although I know
we want to talk this later. I think Marcus I
have figured out the way to make them more competitive.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, cool, Well, we will get to that later on
in the show, but that want to start with a
column that Matt Ocatta has currently on NFL dot com.
You can go check it out. It's about cap casualties
or potential cap casualties. Because we are getting towards that
time of year. Free agency starts in about three weeks,
so we're gonna be talking obviously about where players are

(02:32):
going to move, but teams have to sort of make
room in terms of being able to sign players, and
so that means that, unfortunately, some guys are going to
be left without a job when it's all said and done.
And so, Matt, I wanted to go through yours and
you have it broken down into AFC and NFC. Some
of the names obviously aren't necessarily fantasy relevant. They're more
defensive guys. It's worth reading the whole thing for anybody

(02:55):
out there, go check it out. But I want to
pick out some of the offensive names obviously that could
make an impact, and one that jumped out at me.
It'sn't out at me anyway, but even more so because
when I woke up this morning and I was checking Twitter,
as I want to do when I know it's not
healthy to lay in bed and scroll Twitter, but whatever,
I do it anyway. Every day on Twitter, it seems

(03:17):
as though there is a new player that we are
talking about, whether it's a draft prospect, a current player,
what have you. This morning's main character seemed to be
one Nicholas Jamal Chubb. You have written, other people have
written that he could be a cap casualty, that the
Browns could move on from him. You mentioned in your
piece that the knee injury certainly is going to be impactful,

(03:41):
and when I read it, I thought, is that the
whole thing? I mean, I know the salary number is
a big thing, but but Matt, if you look at it,
if Nick Chubb played a full seventeen games and into
the playoffs, it was fully healthy at the end of
the year, would we even be having this discussion about
him right now?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think we'd be having the discussion because there are
other factors that play. I think that the severity of
discussion would be a lot less intense, because obviously, Nick
Chubb has been the face of this franchise, at least
on the offensive side of the ball for a while now,
and letting him go sounds absurd. But there is a

(04:16):
lot to consider, and the injury is big. It is
a big deal on multiple fronts. It was severe damage
at MCL and ACL. It was the same knee he
injured back at Georgia. It's never good to reinjure the
same knee for a running back. Also, while he recovered
from that college injury, he was twenty then he's twenty eight. Now.

(04:40):
There's a lot different when it comes to recovery, recovery time,
getting back to one hundred percent and then to move
on from the injury a little bit. Hitting twenty eight
is kind of that dreaded age for running backs a
lot of the times, especially when you've got the workload
of the injury history that Chubb does, where even those
guys we believe to be the best in the lea

(05:00):
begin to fall off a little bit. We've seen it all,
you know, fantasy RB ones hit that age, fall out
and begin to you know, come to the twilight of
their career if you will. So I would consider that
a concern even if Chubb hadn't dealt with this injury.
But now you have this. I don't think he comes
back early twenty twenty four. I don't know from what

(05:22):
I've heard talking to people who know this kind of
stuff really well. I don't know if he comes back
one hundred percent until the very end of this next season.
And when you've got a sixteen million dollar cap hit,
which is the third highest among running backs, that makes
that really tough to swallow. You know, he has to
be a top three back in the league basically to

(05:42):
make that work. And if he's fully one hundred percent,
he is, he's Nick Chubb. We know he's one of
the best running backs in the league. But if he's not,
and that's basically the ceiling, you're taking on a lot
of risk. And I will just throw this in there
as one final thing because I know you mentioned, you know,
when he's playing seventeen games, Should we even doubt that,
should we even have this conversation? Just throwing this out there,

(06:02):
And I trust me, I believe RB's matter. I'm a
fantasy guy. The Browns have the number ten scoring offense
in the league last year, that was their best finish
since two thousand and seven. In this year, they didn't
have Chubb. I'm just putting it out there that far
back situation wasn't great for most of the year either.
So I don't know if you can put it on that.

(06:23):
I think we get attached to people, to running backs especially,
but also to just players in a franchise sometimes and
it might be time to move on and go in
a new direction for that off.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So David and Joku is the key. He's the engine
that keeps that offense going. Is what you're saying, the.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Classic seventeenth year breakout or whatever you're using.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Hey, David and Jokus, That's what I'm taking away from
that whole conversation right there.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
All three of us are in a mactra of together
right now, Nick Chubb Winn in the middle of the
third round. I can tell you right now I'm out
on that cost, but it sounds like you are as well. Okada.
Two names that we did Dego not that, but pretty
early we're Alvin Kamara and Aaron Jones, and you have
them both as potential cut candidates. I think a lot

(07:07):
of fantasy players or fans look at it and say, well,
Alvin Kamara was their top target for much of this year,
and Aaron Jones just had them on a good playoff run.
So do you think it's possible that either or both
could restructure their deal and stick with the team, or
do you think that we're going to see each of
these running backs on a different team next year.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
No, I do think it's possible, And with Aaron Jones,
I honestly think it's probably more likely than not that
they do figure out a way to keep him there,
or at least they try to. They have said that
Brian gooden Kums the GM has come out and said
the hope and the anticipation is that they'll bring him back.
Just the details of how they do that are still
in flux. And last year he took a five million

(07:47):
dollar pay cut to stay in Green Bay because he
loves playing in Green Bay and they love him a lot.
He's a big locker, locker room piece. He's a crux
of their offense, so I think that they want him there.
He also carries a lot of dead money twelve million
dollars unless they cut him post June first, which is
a complicated thing that comes along with the salary cap

(08:08):
situation that helps free up money. And you know, like
you guys mentioned, he came on very strong at the
end of last year after having a really rocky start
to the season. So I think it's possible. I think
it's likely that they try to restructure him somehow get
that numbered now so he's not up there at the
very top in terms of running back salary cap and

(08:29):
continue to build around Jordan Love and him in that backfield,
which would be great. Kamara feels a lot tougher to me.
He has the highest salary cap hit among running backs
eighteen point eight million dollars, and that's already problematic enough.
People don't want to pay running backs that much money
no matter how well you're performing. To add to that,

(08:50):
these Saints have the worst cap situation in the league,
and it's by a mile. They're in the eighty millions
over the cap. It's like, it's absurd how bad of
a situation they're in.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
This is a yearly thing for them, antaly.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Somehow they managed to get it under but it hasn't
looked recently. It hasn't turned into playoff runs of any significance.
So they need to figure out something new, and Kamara
feels like probably the best, if not one of the best,
places to do that because that cap hit is an innocent,
you know, insane, but also he's missed several games over
the last three seasons. He hasn't hit double digit touchdowns

(09:29):
since twenty twenty, which is what he was doing like
a maniac early in his career and earned him the
extension he's playing on right now. He had career lows
and yards last year. He wasn't that efficient. I still
believe he's a great player. Obviously, he's incredibly He's one
of the best passing pass catching backs in the league.
But for a team in this bad of financial stretch
who needs to figure out something new, that number might

(09:52):
be too much to figure out how to restructure. I'm
sure they like to, I don't know if they can
pull it off.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, just looking at it feels like Kamara
is the guy who probably leaves. I can't imagine the
Packers moving on from Aaron Jones just because, look, they're
not keeping aj dillonough you know that that didn't work out,
you know, and he's an unrestricted free agent. I imagine they're
easily going to let him walk. But as you mentioned,
with Jordan Love showing what he showed us this year,

(10:20):
with that group of young, talented pass catchers that they
have around there, I just imagine that having Aaron Jones
really sort of cements the growth of this offense. I
think Green Bay will do everything they can to try
to keep him there. But I can very well see
Alvin Kamara playing somewhere else besides New Orleans next year.
I would say that maybe he goes to the Chargers

(10:41):
and replaces Austin Eckler, but that number might be sort
of big. But the Chargers do have some decisions to
make at the wide receiver spot. Mike Williams, Keenan Allen
a couple of guys that could be sent packing depending
on what the Chargers want to do. But look, they
have a new head coach and Jim Harbaugh. They have

(11:03):
a new offensive coordinator in Greg Roman. They really are
still trying to build around Justin Herbert and at least
through you know, the first year, Matt Quentin Johnston shows
that he still has a lot of work to do
to be a guy that they can count on regularly.
So does this mean the Chargers have to try to
keep at least one of those two receivers for next year?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I think, you know, if they came to me, if
john asked, I would say, yes, you need to try
to keep at least one. Do they think that I'm
not sure. I don't know, not necessarily. You know, we
talked some really big names so far in this pod
getting cut, and people you know, probably react to that
with how could you possibly move on from someone like that?

(11:47):
The best place to look for teams to move on
from guys who seem like franchise faces that are stars
is when you've got a whole new regime and they
have one. So I could easily see them being in
a situation where they say, we're build around Justin Herbert,
but we're gonna do it the way that we want,
and that looks like x. Quinton Johnston has a long

(12:08):
way to go as pulling it out. So I don't think.
I don't think you want to go into this year
with Justin Herbert and Quinton Johnston. And there's also a
good chance that Austin Eckler is moving on because he's
a free agent. You know, he's among their best pass catchers.
So if you lose, if you have to cut Williams
and Allen, you're putting Justin Herbert in a tough spot.

(12:32):
We've seen all these young quarterbacks take that big step
forward when they got that star receiver. What happens to
Herbert if they get rid of two star receivers, does
they take a big step backwards? I don't think I
want to know. I don't think the Chargers should try
to find out. And I will say they have the
number five pick in the draft. I think there's a
very good chance they get Neighbors or Odoonsda There maybe

(12:54):
Marvin Harrison Junior if by some miracle he falls to them. Unlikely,
but I'd much rather have any of those guys as
a duo to Alan or Williams, especially if it's Allen
and they can learn from him for a year or two.
That sounds like the ideal situation to me. I'd like
to keep Keenan for sure. I'd like to keep one
if you can. We'll see if they do. I think

(13:15):
it's definitely best for Herbert if they can.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, I know, Keenan is older, but he's healthier as
of late, coming off of a more productive season, and
like I said, he's the veterans. So if they keep one,
he seems like the one that they might opt to
keep a little bit. But what about sticking in that
same division? Okata the Broncos, right, like, we know that
they not a total regime change. This year, but last

(13:41):
year it was and they tried to do it with
Russell Wilson and that did not work out, And it
all kind of seems like he is going to be
playing elsewhere next year. But some of his past catchers,
I know they want to get rid of Jerry Judy,
but Patrick are the two that are on the hook here.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, if they get rid of Judy, which I agree,
it seems likely, that'll probably be through a trade. It's
also not impossible that one of these guys gets traded
through some kind of you know, tagging trade or who
knows it's gonna look bad, This offense is still look bad.
That's my main takeaway here, because I don't know what's
gonna happen with Russell Wilson. Obviously, towards the end of

(14:20):
last year, when the whole You're gonna sit thing came out,
it was we all just assumed for sure it was over.
They were gonna move on and restart and do something else.
Since then, there's been a little bit of chatter about
maybe they'll try to work it out. We haven't heard
much else. He's still not gone, so who knows what's
gonna happen there. But Russell Wilson was playing pretty decently

(14:42):
quote unquote, not for him compared to als more in
his career, but decently for an NFL quarterback, and that
team was still middling at best from an offensive standpoint.
And that was with Courtland Sun scoring a touchdown which
felt like every single game, which I don't think is realistic. Yes,
it would felt like a breakout, but that kind of
touchdown output is probably going to regress, so they're in

(15:03):
bad cap shape. They have one pick in the first
four rounds, which is number twelve overall. I don't necessarily
think they're going to use it on the offensive side
of the ball. It's going to be messy. They have
a lot of holes to fill. I think that cutting
one or maybe both of these wide receivers is going
to be a good way to start doing that. If
they do that and they want to get rid of Judy,

(15:25):
what do they have to catch pastes?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'll tell you what they is, Marvion Mims. Imagine giving
them a proper target distribution. Maybe that's the secret plan,
but until it happens, yeah, this is going to be
a messy situation.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, it's just you know, It's funny how it went
from you know, a couple of years ago, they bring
in Russell Wilson, there's all this excitement about, you know
what things are going to have, you know, then then
Nathaniel Hackett situation was just an abject disaster. They try
to you know, paper over that with with Sean Payton,
and that really didn't work because I don't know that
he and Russ we're ever really going to get along.
And now here we are sitting in limbo with no

(16:01):
real direction or anywhere to go. But as you mentioned,
it doesn't seem like they're in a real position to
go through a real rebuild. My fears, if I'm a
Broncos fan, my fears that we're going to be stuck
in football purgatory for a long time where we are
we are not good enough to make the playoffs or
make a deep run in the playoffs, but not bad
enough to end up near the top of the draft board.

(16:24):
They also have that dude wears number fifteen sitting in
Kansas City on top of their division, which is sort
of problematic for them, really problematic for them. This last name,
and I put this on here because I know this
one is near and dear to your heart, Taysom Hill.
I mean, we talked about Alvin Kamara and what he
could be, you know, or what it could be his
future in New Orleans. I know how much you love,

(16:45):
Taysom Hill. I know how much you have kaped up
for him. He seems like one of those guys where
New Orleans is the only place that he could do
what he is doing. What do you think his future
potentially could be?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, So here's what I'll say on that. I don't
think that there's anything particularly creative in the Saints' offense
as of now that allows him to succeed. I just
think they're willing to use him the way that makes sense.
So the question is, is somebody else because at the
you know, forget whether or not they invented the mold
for how to use him. Everyone else has seen it now,

(17:23):
so someone else can figure out how to do it
the same way they did. It's just a question of
who and would they be willing to From a fantasy standpoint,
I think it's probably tough that he goes somewhere else
and has as common an occurrence of relevance as he
has these past couple of years, just because the Saints

(17:44):
have proven to be so willing to use him, you know,
somewhat consistently. It's still like forty percent snaps. But when
you play like Jaysom Hill and get that's the involvement
he does when he's in the game, that can be
enough to be useful sometimes. I think there are some
places where it's possible. I have a little mini list
if you're open to hearing it. Sure, Yeah, Detroit Taysom

(18:06):
Hill in the hands of Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson
in unique situations on fourth down. Tell me that that
Dan Campbell would love to have Taysom Hill.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Taysom Hill and Dan Campbell seem like two piece at
a pot like. I think they would get along great.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
So that's I hope for it.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't want that he's going to be coming in
and forget Montgomery's taking touchdowns away from Gibbson.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, there's a lot of offensive pieces he'd be taken
away from there, which would be good, annoying, but for
Taysom's sake, that would be a cool one. Yes, the Chiefs.
That one's just so obvious. Andy Reid. The stuff he
likes to do behind the line, that he would be
Kadarius Tony, but actually good and not dropping. And also

(18:53):
the very very sneaky piece that if Andy Reids hasn't
thought about this yet, Andy, listen up. This team is
unwilling to run QB sneaks because of what happened to
Mahomes a few years ago when he dislocated his kneecap.
They never do it, but when you're one yard from
a first down or one yard from a goal line,
we've seen it has become the norm in the NFL.

(19:14):
It is a crucial you bring Taysom Hill in easy
first down. That one's so obvious to me. We'll see.
I also like the Browns. I think Kevin Stefanski is
pretty creative. They have a high pace of play, which
is something the Saints do that allows Hill to get
in more commonly, So that one's kind of interesting to
me for some reason. I like the Jaguars just because

(19:36):
I feel like Doug Peterson and Taysom Hill mesh well.
I don't know why. That's just a gut feel. And
then the Rams because Sean McVay, those are my those
are my spots.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Sean McVay would find some really creative things. I think
to do with Taysom Hill.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I'm surprised not to hear he could be the Russell
Wilson replacement for Sean Payton Endenver.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh that's not a bad one. But would he was
wrestling yet?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's true that you know what? Now that you say that, Florio,
it would not surprise me if somehow Sean Payton finds
a way to wrangle him over to Denver. Maybe not
in maybe not in every down quarterback, but just enough
to like, you know, make it interesting over there. That's
for sure. That's uh yeah, Sean Payton for sure get
him paid. Hey man, the columns great over at NFL

(20:23):
dot com. You go check it out, the full thing
with the potential cap casualties. Uh any interesting? Maybe sticking
around with us for one more segment talking to some
some DJ mock draft.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yah, sign me up?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
All right, sound good. We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll come back. We'll talk about DJ's mock draft. Mattocotta
is still hanging out with us a little bit longer
here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Well, it is
mock draft season, and uh, you got to folks on
NFL dot com putting up their respective mock drafts, of
course Daniel Jeremiah being chief among them. He is on

(20:55):
a mock draft two point oh already, so one's the
guy to dive into that. Attlecata is still hanging out
with us here on the pod today. And the first
thing I noticed when I looked at mock Draft two
point zero from Daniel Jeremiah AKA moved the sticks on Twitter.
Four quarterbacks in the top eight picks. I know this
is a year where everybody people love the quarterbacks that

(21:18):
are in the draft this year. I think it's also
because people don't necessarily love the quarterbacks that are potentially
going to be available next year. So this feels like
a year when everybody is trying to scramble and get
one of those guys that they think sort of turn
their fortunes around. So the four guys that DJ has

(21:39):
going early on, Caleb Williams going number one to the
Chicago Bears not really a big surprise. Nor is Drake
may going at number two to the Washington Commanders. You
go down a little bit further, he's got Jade and
Daniels at number six to the New York Giants, and
JJ McCarthy, who has been getting a lot of buzz lately,

(22:00):
moving up a lot of draft boards. DJ's got him
going at number eight to the Atlanta Falcons, the now
Arthur Smith free Atlanta Falcons. So, uh, Floy, I will
start with you of those guys, presuming you know, I
know this is all speculation, but if this were to
happen as Jeremiah predicts, which one isn't the best spot
to produce immediately? I think I know who you're gonna say,

(22:20):
but I want to hear it anyway.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Were you thinking Jaden Daniels? I was, Yeah, for fantasy purposes,
I don't care where they go. It's Jayden Daniels to me,
because think Anthony Richardson, think Jalen Hurts, think Lamar Jackson.
I'm not saying that Daniels is like like he's not
nearly as big as Anthony Richardson or Hurts or anything,
but those quarterbacks were not the number one in their

(22:44):
class or anything like that, but for fantasy they were
because what they give you with their legs, and Jayden
Daniels is that dual threat guy who can come in
and immediately be a top five dual threat type of
quarterback and rush for something like seven eight hundred yards,
maybe more than that. And if we're talking about that,
then we're talking about a fantasy QB one. The only

(23:05):
questions I have with this landing spot is would would
Daniel Jones still be there? Would they start Daniel Jones
early on? I like the supporting cast best in Atlanta,
but McCarthy. I like him as a player too, But
no one, none of these four. The other three I
mean run like Jadeen Daniels, so I don't care where
he lands for fantasy purposes.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I think he's the QB one next year. Oh god,
I mentioned this last week. It broke the thing. The
worries about Jaden Daniels. Right, for every highlight you see
of him making your great throw, there's one highlight of
him taking just an insane hit, a wicked hit. I mean,
the comp wiley coyote has come up more than once,
which doesn't seem like a great thing for a quarterback.

(23:45):
I mean, does that worry you at all? For him
at the next level?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It does, and it should in general with these quarterbacks
that are willing to rush. It's always going to be
a concern. Now to Florio's point, it's also always going
to be a huge positive for fantasy. So it's kind
of that give and take. You have to weigh it
out and hope that he can figure it out. From
what we've seen, I think that teams are getting good
at coaching quarterbacks how to protect themselves a little better

(24:11):
at the next level, so hopefully we can see that there.
He is a Giant's coaching staff, one of the ones
I'm most will trust the NFL. No, not really. I'll
throw my hat in on this question, by the way,
to say, please, I know that Caleb Williams is obviously
the best prospect. Not only is the best prospect in
this draft, most people consider him where a lot of

(24:33):
people consider him to be one of the best prospects
of the last decade at the position, So it is
easier to trust in his fantasy output from the get go,
even though he's not the rusher that Daniels is. That said, hey,
when Andrew Luck came in the league, he was productive
right away. This is the kind of guy that people
are comping Caleb to from a prospect level standpoint, so

(24:57):
it's possible he could produce that well for fantasy out
the game. But b if he goes to the Bears.
I know that the Bears don't seem like the best
situation offensively, but they finally got DJ Moore, who was great.
They have the opportunity to build around that in several
different directions from an offensive side of the ball. They

(25:17):
have the third most cap space in the league. They
have two picks in the first and four or five
in the first four rounds, so they have a lot
of opportunity. And if they trade Justin Fields to make
this pick up Caleb Williams, that's gonna net them maybe
another late first, early second plus is what it sounds like.
So that's a lot of assets. And if they do

(25:38):
this and take Caleb number one, obviously their full focus
is going to be build around Caleb Williams, build a
team that can support him, give him the pieces he needs.
So if he goes one and they build up a
solid offensive roster around him, he'd be up there for
me as well.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I know when we had Adam rank On a few
weeks ago, I mean, he very much is still in
the I think we should build around Justin Fields camp.
He understands the process of going on and drafting Caleb Williams.
He still believes that they can build around fields and
what have you. I'm sort of torn because, you know,
my Trojan allegiance wants me to wants Caleb to go

(26:15):
somewhere where he can immediately be successful where he is.
You know, like, ideally he goes to a Houston type
situation right where they just suddenly blossom and everything is
great and wonderful. I don't think Chicago's the worst spot
for him. You mentioned Dj Moore. I think you know,
Caleb's biggest strength is sort of playing off schedule. He is,
He's a great improviser, gets out of the pocket and

(26:36):
makes plays there. I think that's a good spot for
him to be in. I think Drake May, though, might
be the guy who steps in and plays really really well.
Right away, we saw what Sam Howell did.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
You forget the fact that he was sacked eleventy billion
times this season. He stood in there and he made
some really good throws. I think it's awkward for him
to watch the guy who was behind him in North
Carolina come in and take his job potentially, but I
think Drake May steps up, and I think I think
Washington is not a bad spot for him to go
in and be productive. They've got some good pass catchers there.

(27:12):
You know, the running back situation isn't the It isn't great,
but it isn't the worst either. I mean, you know,
I know people love him. I know people have talked
about him potentially going number one. I think he's in
a really, really good spot to come in and be
productive right away. Any thoughts, maybe matt on which guys
maybe said a long term isn't Caleb? Is he the
long term answer out of this group?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Long term? I think it has to be Caleb, even
over Daniels, assuming like, let's just assume that Daniels is
better in year one, as Florio laid out, because of
that rushing ability. I have no problem with that take
at all. And even if you told me that that
was guaranteed to happen, I would still take Caleb for
the long term because of the value of that prospect.

(27:54):
That level of prospect we're talking about. You know, do
we want to say he's going to be the next
Patrick Mahomes. No, but is he going to be a
high end QB one for Dynasty or every year in
redraft for the next decade. It's a better bet than
you ever get with the draft class bet coming into March.

(28:14):
So yeah, it's Caleb for me. Hopefully that team builds
around him better than they have and let me I'll
just throw out there, no team, no team in NFL history,
has a worse history of QB success. They've never had
a star ever. It's actually embarrassing and insane. So hopefully
he is the savior.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I mean, look, they still have never had a four
thousand yard passer in say their history. I mean, you
talk about Bears quarterbacks, they still refer to Sid Luckman.
Sid Luckman. This last season was nineteen fifty. Nineteen fifty,
We're going on seventy five years since Sid Luckman last

(28:57):
played in an NFL game, and that's the guy they still
refer too when they talk about great Chicago Bears quarterbacks. Yeah,
that's that's rough. The other position that that DJ has
going very early wide receivers. Three in the first nine picks,
Marvin Harrison Junior to New England League Neighbors to Arizona,
Romodonese to Chicago with the number nine pick. We started

(29:20):
talking three of us in slack yesterday about this, and
I think we all sort of agree that Marvin Harrison
Junior obviously an amazing prospect. Going to New England makes
us all feel depressed and sad and gloomy. But Florida,
I'll start with you. I mean, if these were the
actual landing spots, how do you rank the three of

(29:41):
these guys?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I would put Neighbors first for sure, because he's so explosive.
He could win downfield, and he'd have the best quarterback
throwing him the ball with Kyler Murray and I tweet
about it yesterday, Mi me o Cotta. We're talking about
it on slick like right now is a great time
to buy Kyler Murray because he's going to get a
big upgrade at wide receiver one. I think regardless if

(30:04):
it's Marvin Harrison Junior or Neighbors, but I would put
him one. I think that it's a conversation after because
A Donsay would be catching passes from Caleb Williams assumed
if things broke down this way, but he would be
the number two target behind DJ Moore. I don't know
who would be the quarterback in this for the Patriots.

(30:27):
Hopefully it wouldn't be mac jons sappy, Hopefully they'd go
outside someone. I still think I would put Marvin Harrison
Junior second, though, because no disrespect to Donsay, I need
to dive into both of their films more. I've been
watching some quarterback.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Stuff as of late.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
But from what I've seen and from everything I've read
and everything everyone says, Marvin Harrison Junior is just head
and shoulders better than pretty much every wide receiver prospect
we've gotten in recent years. So even in a bad
landing spot.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I would put him to ahead of a Donsay in
this situation. I mean your thoughts, my you are the
resident Patriots fan here on the show.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, that's the great thing about this is well, I
don't know if i'd call it great, but there's the
small silver looking for me of if Marvin Harrison goes
there and is tanked for fantasies that I get to
have Marvin Harrison on my team. However, that doesn't matter
much if my grandma is throwing him the football, which
is in a situation since Tom Brady left. Yeah, it

(31:25):
is a disaster if he goes there and they don't
maneuver in the first round to get a quarterback or
sign someone like Kirk Cousins. Basically, it's terrible. I think now,
Marvin Harrison, you know, to your guys point, is a
prospect of a level to where you can maybe transcend
that and maybe even lift up the quarterback whoever it is,

(31:49):
to a better degree, and he'll still be okay. But
if he goes there, which might arguably be one of
the worst situations in the league, and Neighbors goes to Arizona,
which might honestly be one of the best in terms
of realistic, you know, options for these top wide receivers,
he's by He's far and away the better option for me.
I love Kyler and the chance he has to rebound.

(32:11):
Like Florio pointed out, I think that Neighbors uh is
the one b in this draft class. And that's I
think that's a hot take because everybody has been hearing
about Marvin Harrison junior now obviously for years and assume
him to be future Hall of fameer, best prospect, and
Malik Neighbors is kind of a little bit newer name,

(32:31):
sliding a little bit under the radar in comparison, but
he's incredible. His his statistical or analytical breakdown is unbelievable.
If you want to look at yards per route run
in college, which is one of the best things to
look at when you're looking at these prospects. He is
beyond elite. We're talking like above Jamar Chase. You know,

(32:51):
in the the stratosphere of elite that you either get
a superstar or something goes wrong with the I don't
see that happening here. I think he will be a superstar,
and I think Arizona is the place with the opportunity,
the quarterback, the draft capital, it'll all be great, so
he'd be one.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I mean, look, if somehow this works out that that
Marvin Harrison Junior goes to Arizona, I mean, are we
talking what third round pick in redrafts? That that realistic?
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think he's a top twenty four wide to see
you around the game easily.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, I mean, I mean we talk about this every year,
that we can spend all this time studying tape, talking
about traits and skills and abilities and what have you.
Landing spot means so much in fantasy that no matter
how talented you are, you land in the wrong spot
and it's gonna automatically put a cap on where you are.
But I'm with you, guys, Neighbors to Arizona makes him

(33:51):
number one. I would probably go Odunes to Chicago number two,
just because if they take Caleb, I feel better about it.
Quarterback situation, it's not a talent thing, it's a situation thing.
Now would put Inmates sha at three out of that group.
His tight end has become interesting to talk about in
the last couple of years. I mean, all hail Sam Laporta,

(34:13):
who is currently the king of fantasy tight ends after
his rookie season. And now we've got brock Bauers coming.
And you talk about hearing about himates J for a
couple of years, We've been hearing about brock Bauers for
over a year or so. Now DJ sort of admits
that him falling all the way to eighteen to the
Cincinnati Bengals probably isn't likely. He admitted that he sort
of mocked this one for his own personal enjoyment. And Matt,

(34:37):
when I looked at it, I thought, man, that seems
fun like the Bengals could definitely use a tight end.
But also they've got Jamar Chase and they may throw
the franchise tag on T Higgins and that feels like
a lot. Even with Joe Burrow there, it just feels
like a lot to try to feed brock Bauers enough
targets that we're going to love what he can be
next year. So yay or nay on Bauer to the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Next year is a yaina. What's in between? It's a
rookie tight end situation. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Obviously we're all I don't want to say poisoned by
but last year was absurd when it came to the
productivity of rookie tight ends. I think we should be
careful about assuming that or that things have changed. So
I don't know if I'm going to be considering him
a top you know, six eight, maybe even ten tight

(35:30):
end if he goes there. But I do think it
is a good spot, mainly because if there's somebody who
can support that many targets, it would be a healthy
Joe Burrow. Now we'll see how healthy Joe Burrow is.
But also, you know, between t Higgins and Tyler Boyd,
I think it's likely that one will be gone. I
do think that they'll try to get one back, but

(35:51):
that's going to open up a lot of targets as well.
Whichever one it is. And this offense is built around,
you know, Burrow throwing the ball a mix and taking
the short yardage stuff they need. That they could really
use a tight end. They haven't had one, certainly, not
of this potential caliber. I think that he would be
have a great opportunity there and be solid out the gate.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean it was a last legit with Tyler
Eifert maybe the last Yeah, probably even and that's that's
been a while.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It's good for fantasy. Back in the day he was No,
he did have a couple.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Of really good fantasy c I'm looking at it right now.
Twenty fifteen, six hundred and fifteen yards whatever, thirteen touchdowns.
That's great.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know it was nine years ago though at this yea, yeah,
twenty fifteens a while ago, right, and like he had
thirteen touchdowns that one year.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
He had thirteen touchdowns the rest of his career combined.
So you know, they could definitely use the tight end.
I just worry that there's not enough targets, potentially, at
least in the first year, for brock Bauers to really
be great. Adam I Mitchell DJ has him going to
Tampa Bay now The big point here, Gloreo is that

(37:00):
you know Mike Evans could be on his way out
of Tampa. I know Baker Mayfield has said he wants
to run it back, he wants to keep the band
back together. I think that'd be a lot of fun
if he leaves. I mean, ad Ni Mitchell, big body
guy who's good downfield, wins jump balls, sounds a lot
like Mike Evans. I know we're not super geeked about Baker,
but would you feel better if this was potentially the

(37:21):
replacement for Evans.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'd feel a little. I would feel better than if
they just didn't replace him at all. Like, no, no
disrespect to Mitchell. He's not going to come in and
give you what Mike Evans gave you.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Last year, ten straight one thousand yard seasons or whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
One of the downfield options and great in the red zone.
And so yeah, it would be a hit to the Bucks,
to Baker, to all of that if Mike Evans was
to leave. And I've kind of been pushing Mike Evans
to the Chiefs for a while now. If that doesn't happen,
I think the Bucks make a lot of sense for
him to just kind of go back, But yeah, I
think it would be he lofty expectations to put on

(38:03):
any rookie to be like, hey, you're on Mike Williams
Mike Evans replacement, even if you could be seventy five
percent of like that would be a huge success. And
for Baker. I totally understand why Baker wants to run
his back and have everything get back and everything, because like, yeah,
where else is he gonna go? You know, So like
he's advocating for Baker by that, not the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I mean, look, I'm not mad at it. He's coming
off his best career season. I mean he looked great
and I know you and I have said on this
show and apologized to Baker multiple times because we didn't
believe and he went out. He had a very very
good year. So absolutely Baker's looking out for Baker. When
he says Mike Evans should come back, I'm not mad
about that, like in the least. But speaking of sending

(38:47):
guys to Kansas City, and Florio says he's sort of
pushing Mike Evans that direction. Dj Okad I has Troy
Franklin from the University of Oregon going to KC. Franklin
a speed guy, a vertical threat. That is one thing
that the Chiefs have been missing since Tyreek Hill left.

(39:07):
I'm not going to sit here and say that Troy
Franklin's going to be the next Tyreek Hill? But can
he be better than Mark cuz Veldez scantly? Can he
be that guy? And and if he is, is the
hype train going to go off the rails? Because you
know we anytime a skill position guy goes to Patrick Mahomes' offense,
we get maybe a little bit too fired up. Does
the hype train get going again? If Troy Franklin lands

(39:29):
in KC.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well, okay, can he be better than MVS? Easily? Yes?
Because I think I might be able to put a
three hundred yards passes for Patrick Mahomes. MVS was a
disaster last year, barring a couple nice plays towards the
end of the season, but most of the stuff we
remember him before was bad. So replacing him is easy

(39:51):
if you bring in Troy fr Troy Franklin to replace him.
What does that look like for Troy Franklin? Does he
double or triple that production? I don't necessarily. Here's what
I'll say on Franklin and the hype train. Does he
have the blazing speed? Yes? What does that make us
automatically think of when we're talking about Kansas City Tyreek Hill.
Of course, it's very hard to replace Tyreek Hill. And

(40:14):
what you'll note is that the Chiefs haven't really tried.
Andy Reid hasn't really tried. He said, oh, we don't
have the greatest, possibly the greatest weapon at the wide
receiver position that we've ever seen, not necessarily greatest receiver,
but just in terms of like the ability to destroy
a defense or put fear in a defense, Tyreek Kill

(40:35):
is absurd. We don't have that. Okay, let's not try
to replace him because it's not possible. Let's do something else.
And this last year, Patrick Mahomes, like it or not,
Chiefs fans or Mahomes Truthers was the dak and dunkiest
quarterback in the National Football League. You know, we went
into that Super Bowl, everybody talking about Brock Perdy being
a game manager, dinkin dunker. It was Mahomes who's throwing

(40:59):
everything behind the line. And that's what Reid does is
he comes up with creative answers for the roster you have.
So if Troy Franklin goes there, I will like it.
I will be excited because you still have Patrick Mahomes
as your quarterback. It doesn't matter if you're going to
replace Tyreek Kill or not. Having Mahomes is great and
he is a great prospect with tools to be absurdly good,

(41:21):
especially with a quarterback and throw a deep ball like that.
But I would be I would temper the hype train
a bit if it turns into Tyreek Hill Tyreek Hill
that I don't really expect. I think he'll be. I
think he'll be solid, but careful.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
He's the He's the Gabe Davis replacement. That's what Troy
Franklin really is. Oh, I don't know. I don't know
that excites me a whole lot either necessarily. I mean,
that's just yeah, so's they're saying he's better in best
ball already he need to step on the field and
you're just saying he's the best ball sort of guy.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Honestly, that's kind of valid.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Uh Yeah. The only thing that worries me and this,
I would admit this is me maybe being in my
own head too much, right, and like sometimes I think
think we can all be guilty of not judging the
player on his individual merits and maybe just on situation.
And my first thought is the Chiefs recently, and by
recently I mean maybe the last decade, have not been

(42:15):
great at drafting wide receivers. Like, yes, they found Rashi
Rice and that looks like it's going to turn out
to be good. But you go back Sky Moore. Cornell
Powell was a fifth round pick in twenty twenty one.
Me Cole Hardman, Yes, I know he caught the Super
Bowl winning touchdown, but me Cole Hardman has not blossomed
into anything over his career. Trying to look at some

(42:36):
of the other guys, Ja Hu Chessen, DeMarcus Robinson. You know,
Tyreek Hill was a fifth round guy that they thought
was going to be a special teamer more than anything.
Like they didn't draft him to be the guy that
he has become. Chris Conley, which, by the way, side note,
I thought it was interesting Chris Conley tackling who was

(42:57):
it for the Chiefs, Like there were a a swap
of players like former forty nine Ers playing for the
Chiefs and former Chiefs playing for the forty nine Ers
in the Super Bowl, and they ended up tackling each other.
I thought that was amusing. That's just my own thing.
Long story short, though, the Chiefs have not been great
at drafted wide receivers, and that makes me nervous and
I probably shouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
They certainly have.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
A tight they do have it.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
You could run fast.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
They are interested in you.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Honestly, they haven't done a great job of just having
good wide receivers draft or otherwise. Besides Tyreek Hill, who's
the last one before that? That was great? I don't
even know.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Oh wow, yeah, no, it's it's been a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I mean, look, Dwayne Bow.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yes, Dwayne Bow that might be the only other one.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Wow, Richie James, by the way, that's the name I
was trying to think of.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Richie Yeas.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Anyway, Yeah, I mean what we're not really that far
removed from a season where the Chiefs had, you know,
no touchdowns from a wide receiver. I mean, it wasn't
really that long ago that that happen. It makes Travis
Kelsey that much more impressive. M hm. Yeah. So anyways,

(44:05):
one guy kind of died through this bog draft a
little bit. I know, we'll do it again as we
get closer to draft season, it's started to talk about
landing spots. Ideally, we're gonna start talking to some other
folks too, Maybe get Bucky Brooks on the show. I
know he's not in New Orleans right now with the Lakwan,
and you know, he's obviously got his finger on the
pulse of this stuff as well, So that'll be fun
to talk about as we get a little bit closer

(44:26):
to April and May. But Matt, we appreciate you hanging
out man. For folks who are looking out for you, man,
where can they find your stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
At Mattowcot on Twitter. Go to NFL dot com and
read this cuts article. There's also going to be a
free agency boom bust article coming out soon spoiler alert.
I don't know, I know if I'm even allowed to
say that, but there it is. It's out too, with
some with some fantasy implications as well, so that one
will be fun to read.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Oh Outsdandy, we might have to get you back on
to talk about that one too as well, because that
sounds actually awesome. Anyway, Yeah, go check out, Matt. We're
gonna take a quick break, come back into Matt, Matt,
Mike and I we're gonna try to figure out how
to fix All Star games, because apparently that's a thing
that we need to do. Anyways, stick arout for more
of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So wrap it up

(45:14):
the show, and by the way, thanks to Matto Kata
for stopping by. Be sure to check him out read
his column on NFL dot com. But wanted to finish
for something just kind of a little bit different because
we're not that far removed from the Pro Bowl. Just
what about three weeks or so. The NBA All Star
Game just happened over the past weekend, and it seems

(45:35):
as though the big talking points when it comes to
All Star games recently has been that, you know, they
need to be fixed, no one cares, the players don't
seem all that interested. I mean, for years everybody said, well,
you know, the Pro Bowl has turned into a flag
football game, so the NFL just went on and made
it an actual flag football game. The NBA All Star
Game pretty much is just uncontested dunks and lightly contested

(45:59):
three point shots. I mean, the East scored two hundred
points this year in the All Star Game, so it's
obviously not the same as it was. You know, ten
fifteen twenty thirty years ago. So I guess, as we
sit here and talk about it, do we still need
All Star games? Do we still even want All Star

(46:20):
games as a general public? And you know, how do
we fix them? If that's the case.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I can't speak for the whole public, but me, I
don't think we need them. I think they're outdated. Like
baseball was my first love, and as a nineties kid,
I mean we interleague play only really started in like
the late nineties. So when I was a kid, I
love the All Star Game because like, even when there
was interleague play in like the late nineties early two thousands,

(46:48):
it was two weeks of the season or something like that,
and you would play like the Mets would always play
the Yankees. But like if I wanted to see Mike
Piazza face like Pedro Martinez, the Mets were never good
enough to make the World World Series, so that was
my only opportunity to really see it. Now we get
interleague play every single day of the baseball season, so

(47:08):
I don't think it's as needed. And I thought long
and hard about how to fix them, Okay, and you can't.
You can't offer money to people who have all the
money in the world. There's not gonna be enough money
to get them to play. So I was like, how
can we incentivize it? And time, time is what we
have that the players need this time of year. So

(47:30):
they play the All Star NBA also game on Sunday night, right,
whoever loses. If the East lose, every Eastern Conference team
plays that Monday and the West gets off until Thursday.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
As Oh, because if.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
You told them whether you it's like the Office, you
watch the Office, right, Like when they play to work
on Saturday. Everyone is playing hard because no one wants
to work on Saturday. I think, look, it would be
hard to plan with venues and arenas, like scheduling, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Would be kind of tough.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
But if you told the players you're VACA depends on it,
you're gonna get You're gonna get defense, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
That's interesting. I you know, I never considered that that
would be a definite way to get guys to like
focus in and pay attention a little bit, because I
mean my thought was maybe not to fix the All
Star Star games, but let's just de emphasize them a
little bit, right, Like like All Star Saturday Night still

(48:25):
has some meaning to it, even though I think the
dunk contest has probably run its course because yeah, we've
seen it. Like I don't know what anybody can do
short of you know, anti gravity boots or something like that.
Like I think we just we've seen all of the
dunks that can be done.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Like Jalen Brown had one, and Kenny smith Er whoever
the announcer was, was like in eighty five that was
a fifty, and it's like you've seen that dunk for
forty years.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Now, you know. I think somebody tweeted like, you know,
like jumping over people, like we've seen every variation of
you jumping over people now, Like it's just it's not
as exciting anymore. My thought was just the All Star
Game and just just flip flop the days, right, like
you know, put put the All Star Game on like
Saturday afternoon or something like that, let them play like
get the other way, and then the showcase, the skills showcase,

(49:11):
because that seems to be what people really get excited for.
You know, the three point shootout is still exciting, that's
still interesting. I mean, you have the stuff versus Sabrina
that was fun to watch. I legitimately enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I thought it was the best part of the night.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, so why don't we make that the centerpiece thame.
Why don't we put that part on Sunday and make
that the showcase of the weekend. The game itself can
be you know, like whatever they want to play, you know,
and have it scored b you know, two hundred and
eight to one eighty six or whatever it was. We
could do that part on Saturday, have that Saturday afternoon. Also,
let's not start it so late. Yeah, it starts really late.

(49:46):
And I say that to somebody on the West Coast
where it's like still you know, five thirty in the evening,
but like there's nothing else going on on Sunday. Just
play the game already, like we don't have to wait
all day.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, it's hard because like you can't really incentivize them
to want to play for because I have all the
money and they right and rightfully so and they don't
want to get hurt. So it's really hard to I
think back in the day there was some pride on
it when it was like this is the only time

(50:18):
we're going to play each other, and I want.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
To show that I'm better than you.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
But we get these matchups every single night for six months.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, and I think I've seen a lot of people
make the point too that now because rings culture, which
has kind of infected every sport, is so important. If
I'm a player in any sport, why am I going
to go out and risk injury that prevents me from
possibly winning a championship Because that's all going to be

(50:45):
judged on when my career is over. You know, no
matter what I do, no matter how many other awards
I win, somebody's gonna say, well, you know, you didn't
get a ring, So why would I bother busting my
butt to win an All Star Game or get an
All Star Game MVP when you know people aren't really
going to credit that for anything. So I get that the.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
All Star Game MVP is almost like the smallest award
you could win. Like, like you said, like Dame won
the MVP and the three point con I think more
people care about the three point Contest win than anything
like the Dunk contest. I think people care more about
than who gets the All Star Game MVP.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Oh, it's funny that you know, you could see Dame
was really going out of his way to win that
thing early like he was he was really like from
the beginning, because like the first few minutes you thought
maybe Tyrese Haliburton. He came out of the gate firing.
I think he scored fifteen points in the first couple
of minutes. Uh, and then after a while Dame took over.
You're like, all right, he's he's obviously on a mission
to win this MVP.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I will say, I love that he stole it from
the hometown kid no sense to Haliburt and the Pacers.
Just the heel doing that.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Oh, I like, yeah, oh yeah, especially for the team
playing with the team in you know, the same division too,
Like that's that's hilarious to me. Also, I think it's
funny that the NBA's back to back dunk champion doesn't
actually play in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's one of my favorite things that there has got
not good enough to be in the NBA, but no
one can out dunk him.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
But he is a great He apparently is the champion
dunker of the NBA. Like I know, if we should
do in other sports too, right, have skills competitions like
you know, I don't know, I'll have you know, he
if some guy from triple A can come up within
the home run derby or something like that, right, Like,
let's do it.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
It should be a yearly event. Like look, I know
Steph won. Sabrino put up twenty six, which was the
high score in both rounds three the men's three point.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
She would have been the finals, and Steph.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Made it look like yearly. Let's just pick anyone in
the world and see if they can out shoot Steph.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
That's you know, loser leaves the court, like Steph just
stays on until somebody beats him, right, he just stays
on and he keeps shooting until somebody beats him. And
we'll see how jelly legs and he can't jump in
He's like, you can't can't lift his arms anymore because
he's been shooting all day. Uh yeah, you know what
I think here's it. I think the NFL has sort
of gone at least along the path with the skills competition,

(53:02):
and I think that's kind of become one of the
showcases of the Pro Bowl weekend. You know, I think
people you know, are sort of interested in the flag
football game and what have you, But I think the
skills competition is I think that's sort of the thing
with these All Star weekends now, because as you mentioned,
it's not necessarily special to see the players go up
against each other because we tend to see it a

(53:23):
whole lot, you know. I think for us who play Fantasy,
we've been putting all star teams together for a long
time now, so.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
And we're hardcore sports fans. Like Nicolette watches the Home
Run Derby with me. She watched Saturday Night with me.
She doesn't care, but she's like, this is entertaining, and
she would not think that of an All Star game.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, you know, I think the All Star games have
become like, you know, I don't know, cut to the sidelines,
see what celebrities are hanging out there. At least the
NBA All Star Game, for sure, I don't know. It
is definitely as you mentioned, I think a thing from
a bygone era when you couldn't see guys. I mean
I was. I pulled up as you were talking the
nineteen night one Major League Baseball All Star Game, you know,

(54:03):
and how amazing it was, you know, potentially to see
Dennis Secresley face Tony Gwenn because you just weren't gonna
get that in a regular season, you know, just wasn't
gonna happen. Now they're gonna happen all the time. That's fun.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
It kind of reminds me of the World Baseball Classic
a couple of years ago when it was Otani versus
Trout and that was amazing. Yeah, everyone was watching that,
even though most people would say that that game doesn't
really matter, but.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It was amazing, right because we don't see now we
actually we actually may see it now they're different teams.
We may actually get to see that at some point
in the very near future. We'll see. But there it is.
All Star games. Yeah, they're just there. I think that's
sort of the the the end result of this whole conversation.
But I do like your idea of maybe giving some
guys extra rest if they af their team wins the

(54:48):
All Star Game. We'll see if you guys play play
a little bit harder in that In that case, we'll see. Uh. Anyway,
that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy
Football Podcast. Thanks to man Matt Okata for hanging out
with us as well. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good,
and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody, and we'll talk
to you again real soon