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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I come out on the Steeers. What do we make
of the five and four Steelers right now? The state
of them and the conversation about them is extremely reactive
instant on and on NFL news cycle week to week
to week. I'm not going to sit here and say
this was a great game against the Charge. It was
a bad game. It was a bad road trip to California,
and they got housed for the offense. I thought the
defense was okay. They held Herbert and check, they didn't
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get run all over. They had, didn't give up any
huge runs at all. Because remember a month ago, I'm
old enough to remember, everyone said the Steelers defense was crap.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But the week to week thing.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Guys, one week ago, right before the Chargers game, do
you not remember the Steelers completely housing the Sweetheart Cults.
Jonathan Taylor did nothing in this game. He was completely stuffed.
Daniel Jones, the story of the year was completely turned
inside out by the Steelers defense. This was not back
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in Week two, this week nine. Okay, you have to
at least give them some equity for this game in
which the number one story team quarterback running back. I
thought the Colts had the best offensive line in the
entire league. Why did Daniel Jones have half a second
against the Steelers front? All right, if you want to
go quick, reactive, hot take on most teams in the league,
I would say twenty eight teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Fine, the Steelers organization.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You've got to give them a little bit of equity
of yes, that was a bad game, but year after
year they turned into winning product. And I'm going to
give him so much equity. I'm going to do something
that I hate. I'm going to do something that hate.
I'm going to look at what do they say, you
either die hero or live long enough to see yourself
become the villain. I hate the segment where you put
up a team schedule and just say win loss, win loss.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm doing it. Don't do it right now, Steelers remaining schedule.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm going to do it all right, Starting in the
upper left, the Bengals. Remember the Steelers are five and four.
They're gonna win this weekend. That's the Steelers are six
and four. They're gonna lose at the Bears. They're gonna
lose to the Bills. They're gonna lose at the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's not good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That puts them at six and seven as we go
to the right column. But wait, it's the Steelers. It's Tomlin.
They will beat the Dolphins to get to seven and seven.
They will lose at Detroit to get to a terrible
seven and eight. Then they beat the Browns that get
eight and eighth, and Baltimore likely with nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
To play with. Unless theoth the miraculous happens.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The Steelers win, gets what the record is boys and
girls nine and eight, and through some sort of tie
breaking scenario that may even involve an actual tie in
somebody's record, the Steelers will be in the wild Card round.
Take this clip, Save this clip. That was an awful
trip to the Chargers. That game did not look good.
Rogers are screaming at people. Rodgers' misster receivers. Nine and
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eight will be there after week eighteen.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I promise you. I'm saying it live and play it
back later.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There's a couple teams that I just implicitly trust. I
see the logo and I just think they'll be okay.
Steelers are one of them. I tuck in the opening segment,
and then I have the crappiest logo of all of us.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But this is mine. This is the one we started.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is my my log It's all right, it's fun.
I've done way, way, way worse. I love I have
three and one. The offense has looked really bad the
last couple of weeks. A couple of things. You have
the Giants this weekend. I don't know what the hell
you're getting from them. You know, Jamis is going to
chuck you a couple so that should be able to
turn into points for the up of the offense for
the Packers. But I also, just like I know Packers,
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Twitter is very very confident in their team, bordering on
that Midwestern arrogance. You got the Bears twice. I've told you,
guys own the Bears, and Caleb is a bust and
he's terrible, so you should win both those games.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You're gonna face JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I'm told he's terrible and he's a bust, and you
own him, so you should.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Win that game.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And then you just got to figure out a couple
other things that the problem.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
With the Packers is equipment, problem of standards.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I believe they're going to be in the playoffs, and
they're like, it has to be a super Bowl season.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I don't know, does it.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It never is for you guys, so should be just
like it always is in playoffs, Jordan Love will suddenly
start playing well if Lural change some things up. I
just look at the Packers logan. I'm like, I can't
see them finishing. I don't know, eight and six and
one or whatever the hell adds up to seventeen, they'll
be there.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The logo is not great, but the team usually is.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
First of all, I think these are two maybe the
best two teams in the NFL. If the Seahawks win
this game in the power ranking sense, are they sitting there?
Is literally the best team out of thirty two. But
also listen, they may have to go back to that
stadium in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They may see this team a second and the third time.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But my eyes go with all the quarterbacks and all
the Sam Donald storyline. My eyes go to the coaching
and my eyes go to that guy who this would be.
I think a coming out party for him, because Mike
McDonald would be going against Sean mcvagh. I've said a
thousand times I think is the number one best coach
in the NFL. Mike McDonald is one of the most
unknown coaches in the NFL. I think most people are
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just starting to say his name. I think most people
can't even.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Spell his name.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's not McDonald's like the quarter powder, which he's It's MacDonald.
M a is the guy who went to Georgia as
a college tent, didn't play football, just there as a student.
Then was on the Georgia coaching staff, and it was
at Michigan, he was at Baltimore. He's been around forever.
Do you know he's seventeen and nine as a head
coach in the NFL over the first season and a half.
That's brilliant, that's excellent, excellent coaching.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Seven and two this year.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And I just think if you were to walk around
every town, USA and say to anybody walking on the street,
start naming NFL coaches, how many are you even know
who Mike McDonald is.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
How many still think that Pete Carroll is the coach
of the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's really that thing where if McDonald goes eight and
two and beats McVeigh and does it with Sam Donald
and with these emerging players and these emerging stars like JSN.
It's like the United States of America Meet Mike McDonald.
He's going to be coaching in at least one playoff game.
It's probably going to be at home, and if this
team keeps cruising, it's going to be in late January
and beyond.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm excited for this guy because he's so low.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Profile and he shouldn't be. I feel like the Seahawks
and body everything is about you. Hear about him kind of.
They're supposed to be good, but I don't really know
about them. Jeffrey Dean Morgan tweets about him a lot.
He's the guy who seems to be doing it. It
would be huge for them.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Huge. There's also Mike a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Back to the shallow in factor if they go to
SOFI and get their clocks cleaned by Stafford and McVeigh.
So there's a lot of stakes in this game, even
though it's only a week eleven.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But I'm watching the close thing. You know, a lot
of the Colts wins this year. Their offense has been
so good. They just blow teams away, especially early on.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
This was not bad.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I said it in the highlight. Atlanta was totally gamed.
They were ready, they were equipped. I know they didn't
do a good job against Taylor, but they were in
the game late. Daniel Jones had to make plays late
to get them to overtime. They had to make a
big kick, They had to have other guys chip in.
It was Taylor being the superstar, but the Colts did
a battle in this game, which I like about Jonathan Taylor. Guys,
a little bit of an announcement here. I'm gonna just
a little bit of a show announcement. I'm very, very
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excited to tell you that, Jame, You're not gonna believe this.
This year, for the first time ever, I have an
MVP boat. I got it. I have an MVP boat
for the AP I do. I'm breaking news here. I
get an MVP vote. I get to vote for MVP,
I get to vote.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
For all pro. I am part of the crew.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's officially happening, so your boy, they make it empty people,
and I'm excited because I'm going to talk it through
with you guys, and it could become part of the show.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Here's the deal, though, I'm doing this like my own way.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I am going to make it something very opinionated, very passionate.
Whoever I'm about, I am not just going to pick
whatever the quarterback is the best quarterback in the most yards, whatever, whatever, whatever.
I'm really going to be a purist on this. I
was around for Adrian Peterson's MVP. I remember Barry Sanders' MVP,
and right now I'm not supposed to say who I'm
voting for anything like that. But Jonathan Daely has my attention.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Here's why.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Matthew Stafford is doing incredible, incredible things, and we're gonna
get to him later. Culture eight and two, if they
don't have Jonathan Taylor, I think they're a four and
six team right now. Like I love Jones everything, I
think they're four and six without him. I think the
win over replacement that whoever would be behind him is
just a huge factor.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right now. I'm looking at Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And I also don't like that there's this thing we
do now where well, the best running back gets Offensive
Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's just their work. That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I hate that it's just deciding that's going to be
a quarterback every year.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm looking at Jonathan Taylor and we will continue to
talk about this moving forward.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But as an MVP voter and I.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Feel like Wayne and Garth my backstage pass.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm so excited Jonathan Taylor has my attention.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
For years, I feel like the Philip Rivers Chargers were
the cume running team. I feel like the Joe Burrow
Bengals and some of these years fit the profile. But
to have the two time MVP be the come running
team is really really exciting. I would only say the
football gods work in a strange way. You don't see
a lot of one in five teams make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Stuff happens.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Even if you do get right, like Isaiah's saying, even
if you do have a three game winning streak, you
don't know what's coming down. You have to be so
perfect the injuries, the scheduling and all that type of stuff.
I would love to see the Baltimore Ravens come tearing
down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I would.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't think we can just conclude all the stuff,
like by the way, like their defense was awful and
they just we snapped our fingers and now it's good again.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Will they regress? Was that a mirage? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I just know that you have to be after starting
one to five, not just good, you have to be
almost perfect because things happened down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Are they going to be a playoff team? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They're the come running team officially, but they still need
a lot of help and a lot of things to
go right. Listen, We're gonna talk a lot of Bears
over the next month.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't know if it's gonna be good or bad.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But the big Boys schedule has come in eight games left,
seven of them against teams that matter, really.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Really big games. The story of this game for the
Bears was drops.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
No team in the NFL has had as many drops
in a game this year as the Bears had yesterday,
and Caleb is just lasers all over the field, drop
drop in big moments where the receivers couldn't pick him up.
He stayed in his shoes, He was composed, and he
orchestrated that fourth quarter. Caleb Williams was fantastic at the
end of this game.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We have loved Drake May we love a lot of
his peers. Caleb was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Now here's the thing with the Bears right now, You
can't say anything positive about them, be it here, being
on social media, be it on your text chain, without
every single response being like, who cares? Was against the
Giants they sucked last weeks.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Was against the Bengals, they suck. And I kind of
get it. I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The schedule is coming and we'll find out they're a weird, weird,
weird team. But for right now, I see a six
and a three under a Bear's logo and I have
not seen that for a long time.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I do have one.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Little public service I need to perform here.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I follow a lot of Bears accounts.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I get a lot of Bears tweets aggregated and pulled
together to across my timeline. So a lot of you
Bears fans and you Bear's enthusiasts have got to chill
a little bit on the Twitter because.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
These are real tweets from yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That happened in the middle of the game, a game
which they won.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Embarrassing loss.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Ben Johnson, Dennis Allen, Ryan Pol's ult to blame start
your mock drafts, Kevin.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
They won the game.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They they're six and three, all right, ficky baby, this
falls on Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Horrible play call.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
He didn't have his team ready playforms that playfums.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That's Thicky. I love you and I'll get you in
the second. Thicky, you're my guy. You're better than that.
They're all over here, they're all over Give me more.
That's to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Why I can't read this book but solely on Ben Johnson,
on on and on and return blah blah blah, too long,
next one.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
These are all tweets that happen in a game and
the Bears won, and then.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
My guy Dave Bears about Dan Giants their first road
win and over a year. First of all, I love Dave,
I love Vicky. They do the Bears film room pod.
They're true passionate Bears fans.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So you guys, in past I would have tweeted the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
This team is different, Thicky, This team is different, Dave.
You gotta wait until Triple zeros before you bang out
your tweet about Ben Johnson suck Today.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Ben Jonson did not have his best day.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
See what's below the screen right now, It says twenty
four to twenty and it says six and three different
different DNA, different composure, different everything between the Ears, different
different different.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Get used to it. I know it's hard. You got
a lot of scar tissue.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Save the tweets until they're actually needed, and it won't
be for a while.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Bears win like they do every single week. It's ugly,
they're heavily flawed, but they're six and three. Matthew Stafford
is unconscious, unconscious throwing the football right now. He has
not thrown an interception in six straight games. Six straight games.
Four touchdowns this week, four touchdowns last week, five touchdowns
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the week before. It is a full symphony. He is
conducting with Sean McVay in his ear. He can't miss.
Everything goes in. It's like it's like he's mastered the position.
I remember years and years ago Eddie ben Hill and
the legendary late guitarist, was asked like have you mastered
the guitar and is there anything else you can do
with those six strings? And he said, you're never master,
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You're always learning new things, are always evolving.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I feel that's the way with.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Stafford he's doing now, Like as he's getting into his
mid late thirties, that area like remember when Rogers went
through a second prime a few years ago and he
was winning MVPs with like long hair and a totally
different deal than he had ten years prior. Matthew Stafford
right now is like his third prime of his career.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He is I just this.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Only thing I can say is he is a three
point shooter who's just shooting and then just jogging back
down the court because he not only as he knows
it's going to go in. It's not even going to
hit the rim, it's not even gonna move the net.
It just falls down. Ram Seahawks still play two more times.
They play next week in the late window, and they
will do this again.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think, personally, I think it is the best two.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Teams in the NFL right now, Ram Seahawks, and then
I probably have the Patriots as the third. Ram Seahawks,
two best teams, same division, wildly different quarterbacks, but still
play two more times.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Till buckle up sports fans.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
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