June 26, 2025 • 38 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Mike Yam, Isaiah Stanback, Cesar Ruiz, Chosen Anderson and Quentin Lake answering several questions - will the Commanders be a top-3 offense in 2025? Who will be the Browns QB1? Film expert Nate Tice joins the show and talks about QB’s around the league like Draye Maye, Caleb Williams, Aaron Rodgers and the Browns QB room.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to jmf ME.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Thursday, June twenty six, and Yes, says you can
see we have a jam pactable Mike. I am here
in Los Angeles. My guy is a standback. We also
have Saints offensive lineman Caesar Ruiz. We've got a free
agent wide receiver Chosen Anderson, along with Ram defensive back
Quinton Lake. And yeah, there's a lot of football conversation
as we are just getting underway here.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
On NFL.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Good Morning My mom.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh it is a brand new edition of the show. Yeah,
welcome inside our house. I actually am pretty jacked up.
There's gonna be a quarterback conversation. I feel like there's
never a show that we do without Aaron Rodgers reference.
That's still to come and maybe the most interesting quarterback
room that we have in the NFL. There's a lot
to get to. Always thrilled, though when you have so
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many people on the set with us, we usually don't
necessarily roll.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Listen Casser in the game too, like EA. So I'm
glad to have you guys at the table.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Man love to have it. Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, look, we do kick things off with a little
three and out. We're gonna start with a veteran running
back in Austin Eckler, who was actually a guest on
Serious XM NFL Radio, had some rave reviews for his
young quarterback Jade and Daniels. I think we should all
take a listen.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
He crushed it last year. What I've see from him
going into this year. We have the same offensive coordinator,
and so bringing that into the mix has now made
it so now when we go through OTAs, Jade's already
on it. Like he's beyond you know, kind of the
rookie mistakes like learning the playbook, you know, getting the
play call out slow, He's getting people lined up. We
got new guys coming in.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
No debo.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
You're not over here, You're on this side. Like when
you start to see him kind of orchestrating out there,
you can tell that that growth and he's starting to
get more comfortable, which allows him to even play mentally
faster and make better decisions. And so I think there's
going to be even more growth this year, which is
awesome because of where we're at with our team. We
brought a lot of players back, so have a lot
of playmakers going to get Terry paid, and then man,
we're gonna be looking like a powerhouse out there.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It's probably a good way of describing this team. Look
a year ago at this time, if you would have
said the Commanders would have been a playoff squad, he
would have been scratching your head saying, really, but that
was the case the season ago. Big reason why is
what they were able to do on the offensive side.
A top ten scoring offense, huge numbers, a rookie quarterback.
A big reason why do you see the Commanders being
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a I don't know, in the top three this season?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Offensively, I don't see them. I do not see them
being in the top three, not just yet. And that's
not to say that they weren't a great offense. They
did great things. They went to the playoffs, you know,
defied all odds. You know, jayde and Daniels did a
terrific job last year. Cliff Kingsbury, he did a great
job of kind of directing him being a rookie quarterback
as well.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But there are so many good offenses.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
If you really look from top to bottom, you have
the Eagles, chief us, the rams you have the Bills.
There are a lot of really good teams out there.
There are a lot of teams that have a lot
of talent, and I don't think they're there yet to
say that they're top three. Maybe top ten for sure,
you can make that argument, But top three I don't
think so.
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Caesar, Yeah, I agree. I think top three is early.
Top three is early. But man are talented. We played
them last year and I was able to watch Jaydon
Daniels and that that whole offense just you know, make
things happen.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It was something. It was something to see, man.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
I think top three, no, but I think gearing in
between that top five top ten range for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Chosen.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What do you like about this team offense?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I love that offense.
Speaker 10 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (03:50):
I think that they have the potential to be more
than top there. I think they could be the best
offense in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (03:56):
And I say that because they have the defense to
help them do so. But they're not lose. They didn't
lose anybody. They've only had it added addition, you know,
and for what they did all as one year and
what Cliff has with the offense, that offense has the
capabilities to let everybody do what they're great at and
utilize everybody to their their highest potential. So I think
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they have the potential to be one of the best
for sure.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Some word said number one.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Think of that.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I'm gonna say that I believe that they can be
top five and only reason why I don't I won't
put them in the top three conversations because I don't
believe that they added enough offensive pieces this offseason. I
think they obviously the addition to Deebo Samuel is absolutely huge.
They're gonna be able to high low teams all day long.
If they can find a way to be a top
five rushing team, then we're talking. We're it's a whole
different conversation. Right, they get Brian Robinson Junior going, they
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get Austin Eckler going and have a resurgence there. They
did make some moves on the offensive line, right, add
a little bit of depth there. But I believe that
they have to be a dominant running team in order
for them to have a course to have a part
in being in that conversation of being a top three offense.
I just don't think they have enough talent and enough depth.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
How do you explain because you like this offense, how
do you explain the success the amount of success that
a guy like Jayden Daniels was able to have in
year one?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Because we saw that with C. J.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Stratton who said, hell, we don't see rookies ball like
this is two years in a row where we have
epic performances from rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 11 (05:17):
Yeah, it just showed the difference in them. You know,
he's professional. A lot of potential for him to set
that standard as a rookie in the mindset that he has,
the focus that he has, you know, it's only going
to continue to elevate.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Now, go, I want to ask you you being in
the secondary facing him, right, do you what do you
fear most about J?
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Daniel? Or not fear, but that's a respect, right.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What's the biggest threat to you as a safety slash
nip but whatever you want to call it. What's the
biggest threat to you as a defender when you're facing
J Daniel?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Why am I covering for ten seconds?
Speaker 8 (05:49):
That's I mean, that's DB's nightmare is when you have
mobile quarterbacks or guys that can make plays out of
the pocket, you have to cover forever and if you
think about it, you're just blind. Sometimes you're blindly playing
the ball. You're almost like you're playing basketball with your
when you're back to the quarterback. And that's the toughest thing.
When you guys get guys like Jayden Daniels is they
can make a lot of magic happen outside of that pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And we saw it all last year.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
For you, Caesar, how much of an addition or value
to an offensive lineman is that to have a quarterback
that can maybe buy you a little bit of time?
Speaker 9 (06:21):
Yeah, that's perfect because you know, as one thing, offensive
lineman Hayes is a quarterback that's going to sit there.
He's moving around, he's effective in the pocket, He's able
to get out the pocket and make plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And that's offensive lineman.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
If you know your quarterbacks gonna get out there and
move around and make plays, that's great, all.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Right, and for your chosen Like for receivers, a lot
of times when you hear often receivers don't like mobile quarterbacks, right,
you know they're taking away you.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Know, my ability to get the rock.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Is that necessarily the vibe and that sentiment from receivers
or do you appreciate quarterbacks that can utilize their lakes
because of broken plays.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
That's where the money is at.
Speaker 10 (06:55):
You know.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
I think Big Band and Aaron Rodgers and AB and
DeVante Adams, they made some of the big that's you know,
that's the big that's the way of the money is
a scrambled drill, you know those, and it plays defense.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
You know.
Speaker 11 (07:07):
I've had some of my biggest plays on scramblers. So
that's a that's a bonus and it says you you know,
it's a cheat code. It's just like man. I can't
play man without a rental quarterback. You know, it's hard
to stop real quick?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Did you have him?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did you match up against Jayden when he was at
a SU I was trying to do the number?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Did you I remember being at his first game, his
first start down in Tempe. If you would have told
me that dude would be this dude, his maturation and
evolution's pretty epic.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Are you seeing that same thing? You know what I didn't.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I think he really had a resurgence or really kind
of had an oncoming when he went to LSU.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Ye, his supporting cast was unreal.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Brian Thomas Belieue neighbors.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
You have guys that are doing fantastic things in the
league that he didn't necessarily had.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He had Brandon Day when he.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
Was at ASU, and they did a fantastic job too,
But I think he was so young and hadn't really
grown into that role now. But it is amazing to
see really his growth growth in transition, even of the league.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's even just physically you look like I mean, granted,
he's true freshman starting at that point when I saw him,
so you guys obviously develop over time, but my lord,
the amount of success that he has had has been impressive.
On the second down, though, Cleveland's gonna have a little
bit of a quarterback competition. We got a crowded room,
a veteran in Joe Flacca, we got Kenny Pickett, and
of course a couple of rookies he might have heard of,
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Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders. New Browns wide receiver Deontay Johnson
was actually asked about his opinion on who is going
to be the Week one starter. I don't want to
put you on the spot, but who you think who
you think is going to be the start?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I know we talked about it off camera, but.
Speaker 10 (08:41):
I mean then they don't roll with Kenny for right now.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So you just had rookie Munic camp right doing with
them and did all that stuff.
Speaker 12 (08:47):
Who who looks saying Kenny going on like right now
with the ones and then Joe would come in. I
think they're probably gonna roll with him, just like to see,
like just coming off the season he was with Philly
right right and having the Super Bowl, So I really
I think they don't stick with him through pre season
and then you know they can live with with Joe
coming brands at the table.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Can you Pickett week one starter?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Makes sense to you?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Deantay?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Why are you lying to these people? Why are you
lying to these people? It's you know what, I don't
think Kenny is going.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
To be the number one guy.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
You look at Joe Flacco, a guy who won how
Back Player of the Year if I'm correct.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
With the Browns, he's the.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Guy that has been able to do it, has been consistent,
has brought them to, you know, their first wild card
playoff game. So I think that's their number one guy
going into it. I'm not going to say Kenny Pickett
is not bad or that he can't handle it. But
there's a lot of competition in that room, so it
should be interesting to see, you know, who comes out
on the flat.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
The QB competition and the Browns QB room is is
something I kind of sometimes doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
You know, you just got talent everywhere. You got a
lot of.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Experience, uh in Joe Flacco, and then you got Kenny Pickett,
Shadoor and you got like you got got the young
guys came in and I couldn't really tell you who,
like who would be the quarterback for the Browns because
it's just I fel like it's up in the era.
But if I were to make a decision right now,
if I were to, you know, put all my chips
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on it, I would say it be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right now, you've been around a block.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What do you make of this room?
Speaker 11 (10:21):
I mean to me, what would make the most sense
would be Joe Flacco. I would say, in my opinion
that the rookies, you know, sit back, marinnate, let them
learn the game, let them continue to develop and compete.
But I would figure it would make the most sense
to go with Joe Flacco with the success that he's
had by his career.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, I think it has to be Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I mean, I I believe in Shador if you know,
we got to keep him out of some stuff, but
I believe that he's going to eventually ascend to be
in that number one position just based off of talent,
a loan, and the vibe that he probably has with
his teammates. But in terms of getting you back on
the rails and getting the train tracks, I think that
Joe Flacco has to be the guy. I did want
to ask from you from your perspective, he's because you've
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played with some vets, right and now you have some
actually some relatively young guys at the kibi position.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
What are some of the things that office alignment is looking.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
For out of the quarterback, whether it be veteran versus
young guys like they have in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Absolutely, It's just take control. You know, as a quarterback,
you want your quarterback to hey, I'm in control right now,
like I got it, and in a respectful way. You know,
as a leader, I want to look at my quarterback
as leader. And young guys that can grow into that
fast is it's really is really special. So I think
that's the biggest thing I'm looking for, because a quarterback
that has confidence, a quarterback that you know, has the
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tension of everybody, in the respect of everybody in that huddle,
that only helps them flourish. So all I'm looking for
and the young guy is confidence. Confidence, because confidence can
build so many different things.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So is it tough for those wide receivers though, When
it's multiple guys getting reps and you're just trying to
figure things out, ball comes out a little bit different
from when God maybe have a little extra juice on.
I know the guy's got that touch, just looks a
little different. How do you handle that in the preseason?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It is tough.
Speaker 11 (11:59):
You know, I played with a lot of different quarterbacks
and just the chemistry, just to think and the trust.
It's definitely tough playing with multiple different quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Is it more of a field You brought this up
to me off air the other day, just about this
actual room and it's the command inside that huddle? It
dude quality because the guys know how much does that
resonate for you when it is you know, a couple
of rookies and a couple vets and one guy in
Kenny Pickett, who's just trying to cling on to have
a long career. How do you manage them?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (12:29):
So from my experience, the best quarterbacks I've been around
have been an extension of a coach. And then I
played with younger quarterbacks that obviously they're trying to figure
things out for themselves, so obviously they haven't developed the
leadership part of it. So definitely playing with a veteran
guy that has that command, but there are young guys
that you know, they have that command early on and
they're able to take that step.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah, kind of leaning on your expertise as a wide receiver.
How challenging is it for that receiver group to get
a flow? And when I say a flow, do they
have to pick who they are trying to vibe with
through the through training camp or do they just say
whoever the coach is picked, that's who I'm riding with.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
I mean, you know, receivers, we don't really I wouldn't
say we had say so. I mean we do to
an extent, but you know, we don't make that ultimate decision.
You know, we just have to make it happen with them.
It's just about putting in that extra work, that extra time,
building that chemistry, watching film, communicating on and off the field.
You know, I feel in my experience, the better relationship
you have off the field, the more it translates on
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the field, makes on the field that much easier. And
all those extra repetitions, extra routes after practice if you
miss a reup, getting that extra work.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And then that off season.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
You know, my best season with Teddy Bridge, while we
spend the entire offseason together, A great season that had
with Josh mccowne.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
We did a lot of extra work.
Speaker 11 (13:43):
So the off season, all that extra time, it definitely
translates the game day.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Chemistry and on meals, it's the quarterback of always Boys
they should okay, just double checking to making sure that
is the case in San Francisco. Brock Perty can certainly
afford a lot of those meals, but if he wanted
to lean on his tight end, he can. And George
Kittle entering year number nine now, during a visit with
Blessing with the Boys in that podcast, they asked him
when he decides to retire, when that is going to come,
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and if pro wrestling.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Could be in his future, I would love to do.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Ww is it pretty safe to say that once Steorg
Chield's done play football, there's a WWE contract waiting for him.
Speaker 13 (14:21):
I think there's definitely opportunity within that world, and I
would love nothing more than to be a part of it.
So this is my only, like, my only question mark
with that is I so much love being a fan
of WWE, Like I don't want to, Like I would
only do WW if I like bottering and practiced my
ass off for a long time, like for a while,
so I wouldn't look like an idiot out there because
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I've been in a wwearing like three times, Like I
don't know what I'm doing out there, Like I have
an understanding of how it works, but like I haven't performed.
I haven't moon salted off the top rope at wrestlemer
and you know, like Pat McAfee did.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, there's a lot to unpacked there. Number one,
his ability to respect the game, you know what I mean?
And I know he does that from a football perspective,
but he's doing it with wrestling. Like, Hey, I don't know,
like most of us would be like, yeah, well I
wouldn't say this, but you guys probably would. Oh, I
could get out there and handle it like. George's got
some respect. But we need to help this guy out.
He's a performer. He's your number one tight end. You
told us about that a little bit earlier. A wrestling name.
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Every good wrestler has to have a name. So Quentin,
what's the brought out the whiteboards for this. What's the
name for George Kettle?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah? The name that I decided to go with is
vasper aspar Is.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
The name it's a little inside joke that he actually
mentioned when he was on that podcast talking about a
SIMP system that helps him out during his recovery.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
And so I'm going to give him this nickname just
due to the fact that it sounds pretty cool. It
also helps you and it allows you to carry big loads.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And when you need to do that, he can do
that when he's in the ww's.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I like a vast name of you have great pemmanship.
By the way, Yeah, for sure, Caesar name.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
We'll go with g Money. Oh okay, I like it.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
You know, George Cody got big personality. Man, got a
lot of swag people don't expect. And I think when
you WWE, it requires a big personality. It requires you
know that swag and that you know, just that energy.
So I think g money is perfect for a guy
like George Kittle because you know what I'm saying, he
got a swag for it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, I like that, you can see. I mean, this
dude likes to have more fun than anyone. I've been
up at Niners Camp a couple of times, and I
mean you might be in the middle of the segment
and George will just roll up behind you and just
have some fun and grab the mic and make sure
that he gets a little FaceTime. And we love that
when he does it. But chose him the w W
E name what you got?
Speaker 11 (16:41):
Maybe give him my personal nickname for him, g QS.
So that's what I call him, GQS.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay, I like it, all right, all right, Well mine's
gonna be a little bit different.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Okay, all right, you guys know who I'm coming with.
I think his name is Chaos. Yeah, that's Chaos, y'all.
See the picture of him right there.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I can just see I can see George Kittle coming
out the back behind the screen.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It just sounded like gall Like, are you remember Gallagher
with the watermelon and the smashing. I want to see
me smashing free. I canna see him all over the place.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
We know that he's a big personality, he's wild, he's
gonna be chaotic. So I liked his name as Chaos,
and I think the fans would vibe with him.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
To be clear, you you are a pretty good artist
on they that that's pretty good from one of our monitors.
I'm like, is that a spider?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
No, no, noah, No, that's no. I get it now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I needed to take a closer look.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I usually don't necessarily always participate in the whiteboard stuff,
but Georgian animal steel was the first thing that I
thought of. And I'm not creative enough to come up
with some sort of animal reference form.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I came up with two. So I'm gonna go the
people's tight end. We'll go a little rock reference and
then just with the Bay Area.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I got that Bay Area brawler.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Is that cheesy?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It feels a little bit, but baby, I'm just gonna
all we got.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We got a literally all.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
See he knows what he's doing out there, cline action.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For for everyone.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Chook Chaos. Yeah, he's built board for sure. But listen,
the w W is real.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
You know we talked about in the past on this show,
I had an opportunity to get in there and do
some work.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
There's a high regard for each other.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
There's a high regard for everybody who has a part
role in Benett production.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That's tough. Now, it's physical.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I did a two day mini camp, bro, and I
felt like I was in three weeks of training camp.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh yeah, well, we're gonna avoid that, especially if we
heard your story about that coming to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yahbody, I'm into the WW moment for him.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We got more Good Morning Football still to come. We're
gonna check in on a couple of second year quarterbacks.
NFL analysts Nate Tice tells you what's in store for
the Patriots, Drake May and the Bear's Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I understand me on the Today Show, show me.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Just want to be a fight heavyweight too.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
All right, perfect.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
And so it is.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's down in loud, perfect time from Drake May. J. J.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
McCarthy just hit the senior on the.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Things going for the low bo.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's a different Just.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Show me what you got, Show me what you got,
Show me what you got.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Really feels like the beginning of something.
Speaker 13 (19:31):
This is better than expected, and now it's good, looks
really good.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You start thinking about the future of the NFL, and
it's in good hands. With a lot of these young
quarterbacks second year qbs, they are creating a lot of
chatter this season and from more on that we welcome
in our film expert Nate Tice is with us on Man.
Always good to have you with us. Congrats on the
newborn by the way, because that just happened a couple
of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Thrilled that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, I guess you would have been up anyway to
do this show just because of that. The Patriots new
head coach Mike Rabel a fan of his new quarterback
in Drake May, which we underst why are you all
in on him?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Though?
Speaker 14 (20:07):
Oh yeah, I think anyone that's even seen any of
my work outside of Good Morning Football, Drake May is
kind of my guy. I really really high on him overall,
not just as a thrower, And why I really like
his game as a thrower is just because he is
so aggressive and so explosive as a passer inside the pocket,
outside the pocket, I thought a lot of the things too.
On top of that, as a rookie, he was very efficient,
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especially in a system and an ecosystem that wasn't really
conducive to be efficient a bad offensive line if he
receivers last year in New England, he still had a
top ten success rate from rookie quarterbacks since twenty twelve.
And on top of that, I'm really really excited to
see how Josh McDaniels, who people think of as a
traditional play caller, really excited to see how he uses
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Drake May as a runner. When Josh McDaniels and Cam
Newton were together in twenty twenty, it was one of
those weird offenses in the last few years, whereas this
Cam Newton stuff with his Josh McDaniel stuff and really
was good. It was some really fun stuff, and I'm
excited to see how McDaniels use it May's legs. He
only had one designed run last year outside of QB
sneaks and kneel downs and fumbles, but he also was
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right second in scramble yards per game, only behind Jane
Danemong all quarterbacks in the NFL last year. This guy
can run. He is a very good athlete. So I'm
very very high on Drake May. Not this not only
just this year, but into the future. I think this
guy has all pro potential, and I really will stand
on that. Not this year, but I do think that
the foundation for what he's going to become, we will
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start seeing the glimpses of it, because I do think.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The talent was there.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Yep, Bears fans got a lot of hope that Kayler
Williams will finally give them the first Well, they'll give
them a first four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
What do you think we'll see from Tayla Williams a year?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Another guy pretty excited. I remember this guy at a
number one pick. There's some other rooky quarterbacks had some
good years. Kind of took his thunder a little bit.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
But you know, I think Caleb Williams and I know
that a lot of the run around stuff kind of
grabs the highlights where he was drawing comparison to Mahomes,
which is always going to be like a little dicey
to me, where I thought kill balloons when he was
coming out of college, he really had a lot of
glimpses of Drew Brees coming up for due.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Where he was working from the pocket.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
He's not the biggest guy I'm the tallest guy, should
say he sub six two, but he's stock you, he's
a good athlete, and then his balance is exceptional. So
what's really cool about that Drew Brees comparison, which was
just for fun for me, no, in case it does
work out, you know, it's something fun to play my
flag on, is that the Bears, this offensive system has
a lot of champeyte to it. Ben Johnson has a
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lot of champagne influences to his offense from.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Working with Dan Campbell.
Speaker 14 (22:39):
And not only that, they hired Dan Rushier, their offensive
line coach, who was Drew Brees's offensive line coach in
New Orleans. So there's these comparisons. For me, I'm like, yeah,
all right, this is working. But I think this regime
that took over in Chicago with Ben Johnson, the rest
of the staff, they know what kill Willins is. He's
good on the move. He needs a stout pocket. He
needs an interior offensive line that keeps him upright and
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lets him see you know, we six two is six two.
Six two is sub six two. You have to be
realistic about what your quarterback is. So that's why they
went and got Joe Tooney he was an excellent offensive
line Drew Dolman, Jonah Jackson, but also Ozzie Trapilo they
drafted who I'm really high on as a tackle, and
then Colson Lovelin as well. I'm excited for these two
tight end looks. So I think this offensive system is
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going to really make sense for what Caleb was good at.
And really I think it's gonna be more of the
traditional stuff under center, under center, play action, quick game
where he can use his mind to get the ball
out quickly. So I think there's gonna be some more
of these traditional elements, these Sean Payton influenced elements in
this offense that I think make a lot of sense
for kil willis again another guy I'm super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Sewan and now Nate.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Caleb Williams has a lot of respect for the next guy.
We're going to talk about a team that is familiar
with me.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My dad actually played for them.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
We're talking about Aaron Rodgers and potentially his last season.
How productive do you think he's going to be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 14 (24:01):
I think the production first has to come with the communication,
and not just with him and his teammates or anything,
but him and Arthur Smith Arthur Smith's offenses are a
certain type, very under center, very there's pullbacks and tight
ends everywhere, very run heavy, with a lot of play
action working off of it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It could work really well. Look at what was going
on in Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 14 (24:23):
Even Arthur Smith's second year when he had Marcus Mariota
at quarterback, there were some tie ins where this was working,
these kind of marriages of the offensive quarterback in the
offensive system. I think where I have to see where
I'm like the most success I have to see is
how Aaron Rodgers does against the Politz, which is soon
weird because a veteran quarterback you would think would kind
of have a lot of good answers.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Last year with the Jets, where.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Aaron Rodgers kind of had his thumbprints on everything with
the offense, saw a lot of weaknesses, saw the Vikings
and the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Really take advantage of the protection stuff.
Speaker 14 (24:52):
So last year, Aaron Rodgers is thirty second fromong quarterbacks
at the yards for a tep against the Blitz. But
your thirty first ee paper dropback, you're twenty six in
success right against the Blitz. Why I'm bringing that all
up Dealers have this guy named Zach Frazier at center
who is a star.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
He is.
Speaker 14 (25:09):
They drafted him the second round last year from West Virginia,
played really really well. Get had some injuries as well,
but I think this year, if he's healthy, he handles
all that protection stuff. So I really do think there's
a path here for this working, even more than I
think our thought originally. I think there's gonna be some
interesting kind of style differences as well. Rogers doesn't really
like to throw over the middle as well. This offense
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kind of gets unlocked by that. But I think it's
gonna be able to run heavy, some deep balls, and
I just think, you know, Rogers and Smith working on
the communication, when we can use some Rogers stuff, when
we use some Arthur Smith's stuff, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
But I do think there's a path of this.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
Working, transitioning into the same conference with the Browns and
therefore potential starters. What do you make of that QB situation.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I think the old man ends up winning Joe Blackout.
I think he's on that roster to win the job.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
I do think it's the math game is it's not
mathing in my head there's four quarterbacks, there's only so
many reps to go around. I mean, anyone that's been
in an NFL training camp you see the quarterbacks, it's
usually it's like two guys get mostly the reps and
maybe the QB three. Especially as training camp or goes along,
start's getting fewer reps as they're getting ready for Week one,
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so you have four quarterbacks that might need reps. Flaco's
kind of, you know, taking this time right now. He's
kind of getting those veteran days, it seems like in
the OTAs. But there's not a lot of teams that
carry three quarterbacks. It's usually two plus a practice squad guy.
There's definitely nobody that carries four. I don't think the
last one I can remember is like the two thousand
or two thousand and one Patriots. That was just because
they didn't want Tom Brady to get swooped up before
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he starts starting. I really do think that the math
game of all this ends up with Flacco as a starter,
and I'm just more interested about what unfolds with the
rest of the roster. I think as everybody that's paying
attention to Cleveland is as well.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I do think It's Flacco's job to lose, all.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Right, Nace, So maybe four quarterbacks is too much for you.
So I'm gonna go ahead and back it down. Let's
go to a New York Giants where there's only three quarterbacks. Okay,
Russell Wilson is the presumed starter out there in New York.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
How safe is his starting role?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Though?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
With Jackson dart On on the depth.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Chart, Tommy Devitos slander.
Speaker 14 (27:18):
But I think my answer to this question is if
you just look at the Giants schedule and you'll find
your answer.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
The Giants face the hardest schedule in the NFL this year.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
By stats.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know, look at it.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
But six of their eight first eight games are against
playoff teams from last year, eight of their first twelve
games are against playoff teams last year, and the other
games are against the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys, the Bears.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And the Saints. Okay, we'll give you the Saints. We'll
throw that one in there.
Speaker 14 (27:44):
You got a head coach in the GM working for
their job, really so, and Jackson dart is this beautiful
thing called a mystery box. So I think that when
I really, if I were to put a number on this,
I say by Thanksgiving somewhere in November, because when that
slate of games that first half the year where they
take a deep breath, I think they get a ten
day or a little mini by.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think that's where you see the rookie quarterback get
dropped in.
Speaker 14 (28:08):
Because it's I'm really excited about the Giants defense, but
the offense do has worries no matter who the quarterback is,
just because the offensive line kind of gives me some iffiness.
So but I do think because of where this team
is heading and what I think the people in charge
have to do, I think we see Jackson Dart a
little bit earlier, maybe last six.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Weeks of this season. So I predict by Thanksgiving that
we see Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It does seem to make sense, you know, Nate, I
thought I was going to circle back on Tommy Cutlets,
but you said something about the Saints.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Can you reiterate with Caesar here?
Speaker 6 (28:39):
What were you saying?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh no, I was just throw the Saints there. Hey,
I got Kellen Morris Scott's all zines. Those are my guys.
I love that offensive line.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
I really.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Played that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Was like, what's going on my side? If you have
a message for night.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You feel free, man, It's all good.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Hey, hey, you guys are building a good front up there.
Calvin Banks good player too.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Keep showing the big guys. Yeah, exactly, its name.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Big fellas.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
They love that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hey, Nate, seriously, man, we love having you on with us.
You always drop a wealth of knowledge. And once again,
congrats on the new baby. Trying to get some sleep
and hopefully we will talk to you very soon. So
you know you guys so much for see you guys
more GMFB, Still the Cup. Welcome back to GMFB. We
are pumped to bring in our next guest, who is
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entering his twelfth NFL season. Browns offensive tackle Cornelius Lucas
is with us. Man appreciate it and certainly Cornelius when
it comes down to your squad. One of the biggest
stories of the off season has been the Browns quarterback situation.
Have you done one interview this offseason without being asked
about this?
Speaker 10 (30:01):
Every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, I'm gonna hi up on the train here. Just
break it down for me. What's it actually like for
you at Minicampa. All of us have been talking about
dividing reps not the easiest thing. The conversations, everyone's talking
about it nationally. What's it like for you to be
involved in that?
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Oh? Personally, there's an old line. I have to look
back after each play call and make sure I'm looking
at the right person to analyze their cadence because each
each quarterback is slightly different, so I got to take
that into account with me getting off the ball and
stuff like that. But it's been pretty good so far. Man.
All the guys you've got to remember working really hard,
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and I feel like competition at the quarterback spot can
be good, you know what I'm saying, because that's the
most important position on the team, and if you have
a competition there, you'll have competition everywhere.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
I has the interaction been with Dylan Gabriel and Sar Sanders,
and also what's your rookie dinner expectations with them?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So far?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
There's been two good rookies.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
Man.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
You know, they haven't come in and said too much.
It did too much. They just been sponge. Just seems
like they take a lot from my Gods, Sleepy Joe,
Like they just come in the building, they work. I'm
expecting to have a hell of a hell of a
rookie dinner for both of the guys, especially.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Man talking about the rookies, because you have a handful
of rookie of QBS that you are playing with currently.
But let's go back to last year where you had
the rookie and jayde Daniels right, you're protecting him out
there in Washington. Help us understand what did you see
in terms of his growth from the beginning of last
season all the way through the end.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
You guys playoff run Damn.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
I wouldn't see I wouldn't say growth. I would just
say consistency. Like from day one, guy had a plan
on how he wanted to work, and every day I've
seen him execute that plan, like morning's leave the snow,
Like no matter what it was, he was there at
four thirty five o'clock in the in the end door
doing the VR stuff with the players, getting the blitzes
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at four hundred times game speed stuff like that. Man,
it was a surprise in the beginning, like seeing how
good this guy was, but as the year went on,
it just became the norm because that's what he showed
you each and every day.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Big Dog in the trenches, my guy, quick question. Man.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
You know, as offensive lineman, we do the dirty work.
You might really notice, is what we do. We kind
of like the unsung heroes. You know what it's like,
you know, putting in the work. If something goes bad,
it's our fault. If some goes good, somebody else did
a good job. So what's something you wish people knew
more about offensive linement?
Speaker 12 (32:49):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Shit, how we can play a seventy play game and
lock somebody up sixty nine players out of the game
and give them one second we had a bad game, Like,
I hate that. I wish you had more stats, more
good stats for office alignment.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I wish I.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Wish people study. I wish people study our technique the
same way they study while receivers in DBS. Man, Because
it's art to this, you know what I'm saying. Like,
it's an art to taking a guy against his will
and moving him somewhere that he doesn't want to be.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
No, absolutely, yeah, I'm wishing, and I agree with that wholeheartedly.
You know, we need a stat we need how many pancakes,
how many times I punched you in your chest? How
many twists I passed off? Because that's like you said,
it's an art. It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You ever see a skill player getting the old lines
dance like athletes no more?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, hey, look Cornelas you guys are going to
get some love.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
There is a Protector of the Year award now this year,
so that should be something interesting over your tenure of
your career. We actually had Tehron Armstead come through yesterday.
He gave us a little insight on his top five
people that he had to go against. Who was the
or who is the most challenging player that you've gone against?
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Oh man, I'm gonna go top five. I'm gonna take
it back for nostalgia. We're gonna start off with Julius Peppers.
Leave that long. I was blessed to this Peppers man.
Somebody in the forefront right now. We got the guy
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Danil Hunter. I feel like he's a craftsman when it
comes to moves that no one has ever seen. He
has a complete, different, total, different bag. We got to
go with ninety five from the Browns. I've never seen
a first step, I've never seen a leticism and been
from a guy that's big, that that size. After that,
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I see where I'm gonna go with my fourth and fifth,
Oh stank, I think real long and hard. We got
oh that guy from from the Raiders, crossby Max crossby
relentless pursuit, relentless effort, backup move for the backup move,
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and then he has a backup move for that when
if it doesn't work. And that fifth one. Man, Uh,
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say crowd noise, I'm gonna put,
I'm gonna put I'm gonna put crowd noise in that
going into going into hosted territories, playing against fire breathing
and dragons, and you can't get a count, so you
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gotta look to see what's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Yeah, man, all that stuff comes into play. Yeah, absolutely
for niggas. Man, I want to switch gears here a
little bit.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
You you've turned tragedy and devastating tragedy into good. Your
dad drowned when you were seven years old, and since
then you've created the Laps with Luke Swim and Leadership Camp.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Please tell us more about that.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
Well, this is something very near and dear to my heart. Man,
Like you said, my dad passed away at the at
the age of seven. To swim next event and water
has held a plague over me since then, just being
able to see how fast it could take your levels.
So one day, sitting down talking about significant other, she
was like, man, you should do a swim camp. A
lot of guys have football camps and all that, but
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no one's really doing a swim camp. And gave us
some thought, and I teamed up with the guys that
Son of Saint led by Vivian Lee, and right now
we're on our third one. This year, I'm incorporating the
eighteenth Ward Brown Girls Swim Nola, raising canes and auctioner,
and together we've grown the campus. It's gonna be about
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twenty five kids this year and with hopes so we're
going to move on to something bigger next year, to
being able to invite anyone and everyone that wants to
come from That's my hopes and plans for next.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Year moving forward.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
But as of right now, man, we're looking forward to
knock these next two days out. I have some great
speakers coming in just to give guys that don't have
a shot at the NFL, just to give them other
thoughts on what they want to be in life. Also,
while we learned how to swim, and you know, We're
gonna kind of kick it, hang back, eat some snacks,
drink juices, play basketball. You know what I'm saying. It's
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gonna have two good days of fun in the sun.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's kind of awesome to hear that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
A really holistic view of what you can be when
you're an NFL player, And certainly following we saw some
images of you by the way, you look comfortable in
the water, which I know is a challenge. I actually
used to coach kids. I used to teach children and
adults how to swim, and sometimes there's a fear factor
with the adults that's that's really hard to overcome. You
actually learned to swim with some of the kids at
your camp. How challenging was it for you to overcome
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that fear?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Well, through the years, I've like inched my way further
and further. I told myself when I turned thirty, I
was going to jump into the ocean off the yacht.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I did that.
Speaker 10 (37:49):
Oh, So I've just been I've just been like building
my courage. And I couldn't just go into a swim
camp and be scared to get in the water with
the kids. Like I've grown myself. I've grown my courage
and myself enough to basically be comfortable enough to help
somebody else out in the water. And I know how
the trail water, and I'm just getting better each and
every time I go out. It's like it's like practice
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and football.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Hey, yeah, fellas you guys here in the shade, the
little shade that he dropped right there, right, he said,
jumping off a yacht.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yes, twelve years in the league. You can go the
backflip that's there as well.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I saw you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I saw you dive into the water. By the way,
it looks like you're ready for a race, so you
have overcome that fear. But the way seriously awesome. This
cause is terrific, something that's close to me because I
certainly loved being the water as a kid as well.
So thank you for sharing your story, which I know
is not always the easiest thing to do in putting
together this camp. Continued success, man, and stay healthy this
upcoming season.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
Okay man, thank you for having me
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
Good Morning My mom.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh it is a brand new edition of the show. Yeah,
welcome inside our house. I actually am pretty jacked up.
There's gonna be a quarterback conversation. I feel like there's
never a show that we do without Aaron Rodgers reference.
That's still to come and maybe the most interesting quarterback
room that we have in the NFL. There's a lot
to get to. Always thrilled, though when you have so
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many people on the set with us, we usually don't
necessarily roll.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Listen Casser in the game too, like EA. So I'm
glad to have you guys at the table.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Man love to have it. Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, look, we do kick things off with a little
three and out. We're gonna start with a veteran running
back in Austin Eckler, who was actually a guest on
Serious XM NFL Radio, had some rave reviews for his
young quarterback Jade and Daniels. I think we should all
take a listen.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
He crushed it last year. What I've see from him
going into this year. We have the same offensive coordinator,
and so bringing that into the mix has now made
it so now when we go through OTAs, Jade's already
on it. Like he's beyond you know, kind of the
rookie mistakes like learning the playbook, you know, getting the
play call out slow, He's getting people lined up. We
got new guys coming in.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
No debo.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
You're not over here, You're on this side. Like when
you start to see him kind of orchestrating out there,
you can tell that that growth and he's starting to
get more comfortable, which allows him to even play mentally
faster and make better decisions. And so I think there's
going to be even more growth this year, which is
awesome because of where we're at with our team. We
brought a lot of players back, so have a lot
of playmakers going to get Terry paid, and then man,
we're gonna be looking like a powerhouse out there.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It's probably a good way of describing this team. Look
a year ago at this time, if you would have
said the Commanders would have been a playoff squad, he
would have been scratching your head saying, really, but that
was the case the season ago. Big reason why is
what they were able to do on the offensive side.
A top ten scoring offense, huge numbers, a rookie quarterback.
A big reason why do you see the Commanders being
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a I don't know, in the top three this season?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Offensively, I don't see them. I do not see them
being in the top three, not just yet. And that's
not to say that they weren't a great offense. They
did great things. They went to the playoffs, you know,
defied all odds. You know, jayde and Daniels did a
terrific job last year. Cliff Kingsbury, he did a great
job of kind of directing him being a rookie quarterback
as well.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But there are so many good offenses.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
If you really look from top to bottom, you have
the Eagles, chief us, the rams you have the Bills.
There are a lot of really good teams out there.
There are a lot of teams that have a lot
of talent, and I don't think they're there yet to
say that they're top three. Maybe top ten for sure,
you can make that argument, But top three I don't
think so.
Speaker 9 (03:20):
Caesar, Yeah, I agree. I think top three is early.
Top three is early. But man are talented. We played
them last year and I was able to watch Jaydon
Daniels and that that whole offense just you know, make
things happen.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It was something. It was something to see, man.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
I think top three, no, but I think gearing in
between that top five top ten range for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Chosen.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What do you like about this team offense?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I love that offense.
Speaker 10 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (03:50):
I think that they have the potential to be more
than top there. I think they could be the best
offense in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (03:56):
And I say that because they have the defense to
help them do so. But they're not lose. They didn't
lose anybody. They've only had it added addition, you know,
and for what they did all as one year and
what Cliff has with the offense, that offense has the
capabilities to let everybody do what they're great at and
utilize everybody to their their highest potential. So I think
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they have the potential to be one of the best
for sure.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Some word said number one.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Think of that.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I'm gonna say that I believe that they can be
top five and only reason why I don't I won't
put them in the top three conversations because I don't
believe that they added enough offensive pieces this offseason. I
think they obviously the addition to Deebo Samuel is absolutely huge.
They're gonna be able to high low teams all day long.
If they can find a way to be a top
five rushing team, then we're talking. We're it's a whole
different conversation. Right, they get Brian Robinson Junior going, they
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get Austin Eckler going and have a resurgence there. They
did make some moves on the offensive line, right, add
a little bit of depth there. But I believe that
they have to be a dominant running team in order
for them to have a course to have a part
in being in that conversation of being a top three offense.
I just don't think they have enough talent and enough depth.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
How do you explain because you like this offense, how
do you explain the success the amount of success that
a guy like Jayden Daniels was able to have in
year one?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Because we saw that with C. J.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Stratton who said, hell, we don't see rookies ball like
this is two years in a row where we have
epic performances from rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 11 (05:17):
Yeah, it just showed the difference in them. You know,
he's professional. A lot of potential for him to set
that standard as a rookie in the mindset that he has,
the focus that he has, you know, it's only going
to continue to elevate.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Now, go, I want to ask you you being in
the secondary facing him, right, do you what do you
fear most about J?
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Daniel? Or not fear, but that's a respect, right.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What's the biggest threat to you as a safety slash
nip but whatever you want to call it. What's the
biggest threat to you as a defender when you're facing
J Daniel?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Why am I covering for ten seconds?
Speaker 8 (05:49):
That's I mean, that's DB's nightmare is when you have
mobile quarterbacks or guys that can make plays out of
the pocket, you have to cover forever and if you
think about it, you're just blind. Sometimes you're blindly playing
the ball. You're almost like you're playing basketball with your
when you're back to the quarterback. And that's the toughest thing.
When you guys get guys like Jayden Daniels is they
can make a lot of magic happen outside of that pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And we saw it all last year.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
For you, Caesar, how much of an addition or value
to an offensive lineman is that to have a quarterback
that can maybe buy you a little bit of time?
Speaker 9 (06:21):
Yeah, that's perfect because you know, as one thing, offensive
lineman Hayes is a quarterback that's going to sit there.
He's moving around, he's effective in the pocket, He's able
to get out the pocket and make plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And that's offensive lineman.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
If you know your quarterbacks gonna get out there and
move around and make plays, that's great, all.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Right, and for your chosen Like for receivers, a lot
of times when you hear often receivers don't like mobile quarterbacks, right,
you know they're taking away you.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Know, my ability to get the rock.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Is that necessarily the vibe and that sentiment from receivers
or do you appreciate quarterbacks that can utilize their lakes
because of broken plays.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
That's where the money is at.
Speaker 10 (06:55):
You know.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
I think Big Band and Aaron Rodgers and AB and
DeVante Adams, they made some of the big that's you know,
that's the big that's the way of the money is
a scrambled drill, you know those, and it plays defense.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
You know.
Speaker 11 (07:07):
I've had some of my biggest plays on scramblers. So
that's a that's a bonus and it says you you know,
it's a cheat code. It's just like man. I can't
play man without a rental quarterback. You know, it's hard
to stop real quick?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Did you have him?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did you match up against Jayden when he was at
a SU I was trying to do the number?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Did you I remember being at his first game, his
first start down in Tempe. If you would have told
me that dude would be this dude, his maturation and
evolution's pretty epic.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Are you seeing that same thing? You know what I didn't.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I think he really had a resurgence or really kind
of had an oncoming when he went to LSU.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Ye, his supporting cast was unreal.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Brian Thomas Belieue neighbors.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
You have guys that are doing fantastic things in the
league that he didn't necessarily had.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He had Brandon Day when he.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
Was at ASU, and they did a fantastic job too,
But I think he was so young and hadn't really
grown into that role now. But it is amazing to
see really his growth growth in transition, even of the league.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's even just physically you look like I mean, granted,
he's true freshman starting at that point when I saw him,
so you guys obviously develop over time, but my lord,
the amount of success that he has had has been impressive.
On the second down, though, Cleveland's gonna have a little
bit of a quarterback competition. We got a crowded room,
a veteran in Joe Flacca, we got Kenny Pickett, and
of course a couple of rookies he might have heard of,
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Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders. New Browns wide receiver Deontay Johnson
was actually asked about his opinion on who is going
to be the Week one starter. I don't want to
put you on the spot, but who you think who
you think is going to be the start?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I know we talked about it off camera, but.
Speaker 10 (08:41):
I mean then they don't roll with Kenny for right now.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So you just had rookie Munic camp right doing with
them and did all that stuff.
Speaker 12 (08:47):
Who who looks saying Kenny going on like right now
with the ones and then Joe would come in. I
think they're probably gonna roll with him, just like to see,
like just coming off the season he was with Philly
right right and having the Super Bowl, So I really
I think they don't stick with him through pre season
and then you know they can live with with Joe
coming brands at the table.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Can you Pickett week one starter?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Makes sense to you?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Deantay?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Why are you lying to these people? Why are you
lying to these people? It's you know what, I don't
think Kenny is going.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
To be the number one guy.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
You look at Joe Flacco, a guy who won how
Back Player of the Year if I'm correct.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
With the Browns, he's the.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Guy that has been able to do it, has been consistent,
has brought them to, you know, their first wild card
playoff game. So I think that's their number one guy
going into it. I'm not going to say Kenny Pickett
is not bad or that he can't handle it. But
there's a lot of competition in that room, so it
should be interesting to see, you know, who comes out
on the flat.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
The QB competition and the Browns QB room is is
something I kind of sometimes doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
You know, you just got talent everywhere. You got a
lot of.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Experience, uh in Joe Flacco, and then you got Kenny Pickett,
Shadoor and you got like you got got the young
guys came in and I couldn't really tell you who,
like who would be the quarterback for the Browns because
it's just I fel like it's up in the era.
But if I were to make a decision right now,
if I were to, you know, put all my chips
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on it, I would say it be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right now, you've been around a block.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What do you make of this room?
Speaker 11 (10:21):
I mean to me, what would make the most sense
would be Joe Flacco. I would say, in my opinion
that the rookies, you know, sit back, marinnate, let them
learn the game, let them continue to develop and compete.
But I would figure it would make the most sense
to go with Joe Flacco with the success that he's
had by his career.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, I think it has to be Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I mean, I I believe in Shador if you know,
we got to keep him out of some stuff, but
I believe that he's going to eventually ascend to be
in that number one position just based off of talent,
a loan, and the vibe that he probably has with
his teammates. But in terms of getting you back on
the rails and getting the train tracks, I think that
Joe Flacco has to be the guy. I did want
to ask from you from your perspective, he's because you've
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played with some vets, right and now you have some
actually some relatively young guys at the kibi position.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
What are some of the things that office alignment is looking.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
For out of the quarterback, whether it be veteran versus
young guys like they have in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Absolutely, It's just take control. You know, as a quarterback,
you want your quarterback to hey, I'm in control right now,
like I got it, and in a respectful way. You know,
as a leader, I want to look at my quarterback
as leader. And young guys that can grow into that
fast is it's really is really special. So I think
that's the biggest thing I'm looking for, because a quarterback
that has confidence, a quarterback that you know, has the
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tension of everybody, in the respect of everybody in that huddle,
that only helps them flourish. So all I'm looking for
and the young guy is confidence. Confidence, because confidence can
build so many different things.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So is it tough for those wide receivers though, When
it's multiple guys getting reps and you're just trying to
figure things out, ball comes out a little bit different
from when God maybe have a little extra juice on.
I know the guy's got that touch, just looks a
little different. How do you handle that in the preseason?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It is tough.
Speaker 11 (11:59):
You know, I played with a lot of different quarterbacks
and just the chemistry, just to think and the trust.
It's definitely tough playing with multiple different quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Is it more of a field You brought this up
to me off air the other day, just about this
actual room and it's the command inside that huddle? It
dude quality because the guys know how much does that
resonate for you when it is you know, a couple
of rookies and a couple vets and one guy in
Kenny Pickett, who's just trying to cling on to have
a long career. How do you manage them?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (12:29):
So from my experience, the best quarterbacks I've been around
have been an extension of a coach. And then I
played with younger quarterbacks that obviously they're trying to figure
things out for themselves, so obviously they haven't developed the
leadership part of it. So definitely playing with a veteran
guy that has that command, but there are young guys
that you know, they have that command early on and
they're able to take that step.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah, kind of leaning on your expertise as a wide receiver.
How challenging is it for that receiver group to get
a flow? And when I say a flow, do they
have to pick who they are trying to vibe with
through the through training camp or do they just say
whoever the coach is picked, that's who I'm riding with.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
I mean, you know, receivers, we don't really I wouldn't
say we had say so. I mean we do to
an extent, but you know, we don't make that ultimate decision.
You know, we just have to make it happen with them.
It's just about putting in that extra work, that extra time,
building that chemistry, watching film, communicating on and off the field.
You know, I feel in my experience, the better relationship
you have off the field, the more it translates on
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the field, makes on the field that much easier. And
all those extra repetitions, extra routes after practice if you
miss a reup, getting that extra work.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And then that off season.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
You know, my best season with Teddy Bridge, while we
spend the entire offseason together, A great season that had
with Josh mccowne.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
We did a lot of extra work.
Speaker 11 (13:43):
So the off season, all that extra time, it definitely
translates the game day.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Chemistry and on meals, it's the quarterback of always Boys
they should okay, just double checking to making sure that
is the case in San Francisco. Brock Perty can certainly
afford a lot of those meals, but if he wanted
to lean on his tight end, he can. And George
Kittle entering year number nine now, during a visit with
Blessing with the Boys in that podcast, they asked him
when he decides to retire, when that is going to come,
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and if pro wrestling.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Could be in his future, I would love to do.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Ww is it pretty safe to say that once Steorg
Chield's done play football, there's a WWE contract waiting for him.
Speaker 13 (14:21):
I think there's definitely opportunity within that world, and I
would love nothing more than to be a part of it.
So this is my only, like, my only question mark
with that is I so much love being a fan
of WWE, Like I don't want to, Like I would
only do WW if I like bottering and practiced my
ass off for a long time, like for a while,
so I wouldn't look like an idiot out there because
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I've been in a wwearing like three times, Like I
don't know what I'm doing out there, Like I have
an understanding of how it works, but like I haven't performed.
I haven't moon salted off the top rope at wrestlemer
and you know, like Pat McAfee did.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, there's a lot to unpacked there. Number one,
his ability to respect the game, you know what I mean?
And I know he does that from a football perspective,
but he's doing it with wrestling. Like, Hey, I don't know,
like most of us would be like, yeah, well I
wouldn't say this, but you guys probably would. Oh, I
could get out there and handle it like. George's got
some respect. But we need to help this guy out.
He's a performer. He's your number one tight end. You
told us about that a little bit earlier. A wrestling name.
(15:15):
Every good wrestler has to have a name. So Quentin,
what's the brought out the whiteboards for this. What's the
name for George Kettle?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah? The name that I decided to go with is
vasper aspar Is.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
The name it's a little inside joke that he actually
mentioned when he was on that podcast talking about a
SIMP system that helps him out during his recovery.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
And so I'm going to give him this nickname just
due to the fact that it sounds pretty cool. It
also helps you and it allows you to carry big loads.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And when you need to do that, he can do
that when he's in the ww's.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I like a vast name of you have great pemmanship.
By the way, Yeah, for sure, Caesar name.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
We'll go with g Money. Oh okay, I like it.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
You know, George Cody got big personality. Man, got a
lot of swag people don't expect. And I think when
you WWE, it requires a big personality. It requires you
know that swag and that you know, just that energy.
So I think g money is perfect for a guy
like George Kittle because you know what I'm saying, he
got a swag for it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, I like that, you can see. I mean, this
dude likes to have more fun than anyone. I've been
up at Niners Camp a couple of times, and I
mean you might be in the middle of the segment
and George will just roll up behind you and just
have some fun and grab the mic and make sure
that he gets a little FaceTime. And we love that
when he does it. But chose him the w W
E name what you got?
Speaker 11 (16:41):
Maybe give him my personal nickname for him, g QS.
So that's what I call him, GQS.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay, I like it, all right, all right, Well mine's
gonna be a little bit different.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Okay, all right, you guys know who I'm coming with.
I think his name is Chaos. Yeah, that's Chaos, y'all.
See the picture of him right there.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I can just see I can see George Kittle coming
out the back behind the screen.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It just sounded like gall Like, are you remember Gallagher
with the watermelon and the smashing. I want to see
me smashing free. I canna see him all over the place.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
We know that he's a big personality, he's wild, he's
gonna be chaotic. So I liked his name as Chaos,
and I think the fans would vibe with him.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
To be clear, you you are a pretty good artist
on they that that's pretty good from one of our monitors.
I'm like, is that a spider?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
No, no, noah, No, that's no. I get it now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I needed to take a closer look.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I usually don't necessarily always participate in the whiteboard stuff,
but Georgian animal steel was the first thing that I
thought of. And I'm not creative enough to come up
with some sort of animal reference form.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I came up with two. So I'm gonna go the
people's tight end. We'll go a little rock reference and
then just with the Bay Area.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I got that Bay Area brawler.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Is that cheesy?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It feels a little bit, but baby, I'm just gonna
all we got.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We got a literally all.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
See he knows what he's doing out there, cline action.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For for everyone.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Chook Chaos. Yeah, he's built board for sure. But listen,
the w W is real.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
You know we talked about in the past on this show,
I had an opportunity to get in there and do
some work.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
There's a high regard for each other.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
There's a high regard for everybody who has a part
role in Benett production.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That's tough. Now, it's physical.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I did a two day mini camp, bro, and I
felt like I was in three weeks of training camp.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh yeah, well, we're gonna avoid that, especially if we
heard your story about that coming to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yahbody, I'm into the WW moment for him.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We got more Good Morning Football still to come. We're
gonna check in on a couple of second year quarterbacks.
NFL analysts Nate Tice tells you what's in store for
the Patriots, Drake May and the Bear's Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I understand me on the Today Show, show me.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Just want to be a fight heavyweight too.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
All right, perfect.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
And so it is.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's down in loud, perfect time from Drake May. J. J.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
McCarthy just hit the senior on the.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Things going for the low bo.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's a different Just.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Show me what you got, Show me what you got,
Show me what you got.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Really feels like the beginning of something.
Speaker 13 (19:31):
This is better than expected, and now it's good, looks
really good.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You start thinking about the future of the NFL, and
it's in good hands. With a lot of these young
quarterbacks second year qbs, they are creating a lot of
chatter this season and from more on that we welcome
in our film expert Nate Tice is with us on Man.
Always good to have you with us. Congrats on the
newborn by the way, because that just happened a couple
of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Thrilled that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, I guess you would have been up anyway to
do this show just because of that. The Patriots new
head coach Mike Rabel a fan of his new quarterback
in Drake May, which we underst why are you all
in on him?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Though?
Speaker 14 (20:07):
Oh yeah, I think anyone that's even seen any of
my work outside of Good Morning Football, Drake May is
kind of my guy. I really really high on him overall,
not just as a thrower, And why I really like
his game as a thrower is just because he is
so aggressive and so explosive as a passer inside the pocket,
outside the pocket, I thought a lot of the things too.
On top of that, as a rookie, he was very efficient,
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especially in a system and an ecosystem that wasn't really
conducive to be efficient a bad offensive line if he
receivers last year in New England, he still had a
top ten success rate from rookie quarterbacks since twenty twelve.
And on top of that, I'm really really excited to
see how Josh McDaniels, who people think of as a
traditional play caller, really excited to see how he uses
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Drake May as a runner. When Josh McDaniels and Cam
Newton were together in twenty twenty, it was one of
those weird offenses in the last few years, whereas this
Cam Newton stuff with his Josh McDaniel stuff and really
was good. It was some really fun stuff, and I'm
excited to see how McDaniels use it May's legs. He
only had one designed run last year outside of QB
sneaks and kneel downs and fumbles, but he also was
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right second in scramble yards per game, only behind Jane
Danemong all quarterbacks in the NFL last year. This guy
can run. He is a very good athlete. So I'm
very very high on Drake May. Not this not only
just this year, but into the future. I think this
guy has all pro potential, and I really will stand
on that. Not this year, but I do think that
the foundation for what he's going to become, we will
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start seeing the glimpses of it, because I do think.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The talent was there.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Yep, Bears fans got a lot of hope that Kayler
Williams will finally give them the first Well, they'll give
them a first four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
What do you think we'll see from Tayla Williams a year?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Another guy pretty excited. I remember this guy at a
number one pick. There's some other rooky quarterbacks had some
good years. Kind of took his thunder a little bit.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
But you know, I think Caleb Williams and I know
that a lot of the run around stuff kind of
grabs the highlights where he was drawing comparison to Mahomes,
which is always going to be like a little dicey
to me, where I thought kill balloons when he was
coming out of college, he really had a lot of
glimpses of Drew Brees coming up for due.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Where he was working from the pocket.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
He's not the biggest guy I'm the tallest guy, should
say he sub six two, but he's stock you, he's
a good athlete, and then his balance is exceptional. So
what's really cool about that Drew Brees comparison, which was
just for fun for me, no, in case it does
work out, you know, it's something fun to play my
flag on, is that the Bears, this offensive system has
a lot of champeyte to it. Ben Johnson has a
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lot of champagne influences to his offense from.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Working with Dan Campbell.
Speaker 14 (22:39):
And not only that, they hired Dan Rushier, their offensive
line coach, who was Drew Brees's offensive line coach in
New Orleans. So there's these comparisons. For me, I'm like, yeah,
all right, this is working. But I think this regime
that took over in Chicago with Ben Johnson, the rest
of the staff, they know what kill Willins is. He's
good on the move. He needs a stout pocket. He
needs an interior offensive line that keeps him upright and
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lets him see you know, we six two is six two.
Six two is sub six two. You have to be
realistic about what your quarterback is. So that's why they
went and got Joe Tooney he was an excellent offensive
line Drew Dolman, Jonah Jackson, but also Ozzie Trapilo they
drafted who I'm really high on as a tackle, and
then Colson Lovelin as well. I'm excited for these two
tight end looks. So I think this offensive system is
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going to really make sense for what Caleb was good at.
And really I think it's gonna be more of the
traditional stuff under center, under center, play action, quick game
where he can use his mind to get the ball
out quickly. So I think there's gonna be some more
of these traditional elements, these Sean Payton influenced elements in
this offense that I think make a lot of sense
for kil willis again another guy I'm super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Sewan and now Nate.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Caleb Williams has a lot of respect for the next guy.
We're going to talk about a team that is familiar
with me.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My dad actually played for them.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
We're talking about Aaron Rodgers and potentially his last season.
How productive do you think he's going to be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 14 (24:01):
I think the production first has to come with the communication,
and not just with him and his teammates or anything,
but him and Arthur Smith Arthur Smith's offenses are a
certain type, very under center, very there's pullbacks and tight
ends everywhere, very run heavy, with a lot of play
action working off of it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It could work really well. Look at what was going
on in Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 14 (24:23):
Even Arthur Smith's second year when he had Marcus Mariota
at quarterback, there were some tie ins where this was working,
these kind of marriages of the offensive quarterback in the
offensive system. I think where I have to see where
I'm like the most success I have to see is
how Aaron Rodgers does against the Politz, which is soon
weird because a veteran quarterback you would think would kind
of have a lot of good answers.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Last year with the Jets, where.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Aaron Rodgers kind of had his thumbprints on everything with
the offense, saw a lot of weaknesses, saw the Vikings
and the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Really take advantage of the protection stuff.
Speaker 14 (24:52):
So last year, Aaron Rodgers is thirty second fromong quarterbacks
at the yards for a tep against the Blitz. But
your thirty first ee paper dropback, you're twenty six in
success right against the Blitz. Why I'm bringing that all
up Dealers have this guy named Zach Frazier at center
who is a star.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
He is.
Speaker 14 (25:09):
They drafted him the second round last year from West Virginia,
played really really well. Get had some injuries as well,
but I think this year, if he's healthy, he handles
all that protection stuff. So I really do think there's
a path here for this working, even more than I
think our thought originally. I think there's gonna be some
interesting kind of style differences as well. Rogers doesn't really
like to throw over the middle as well. This offense
(25:29):
kind of gets unlocked by that. But I think it's
gonna be able to run heavy, some deep balls, and
I just think, you know, Rogers and Smith working on
the communication, when we can use some Rogers stuff, when
we use some Arthur Smith's stuff, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
But I do think there's a path of this.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
Working, transitioning into the same conference with the Browns and
therefore potential starters. What do you make of that QB situation.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I think the old man ends up winning Joe Blackout.
I think he's on that roster to win the job.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
I do think it's the math game is it's not
mathing in my head there's four quarterbacks, there's only so
many reps to go around. I mean, anyone that's been
in an NFL training camp you see the quarterbacks, it's
usually it's like two guys get mostly the reps and
maybe the QB three. Especially as training camp or goes along,
start's getting fewer reps as they're getting ready for Week one,
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so you have four quarterbacks that might need reps. Flaco's
kind of, you know, taking this time right now. He's
kind of getting those veteran days, it seems like in
the OTAs. But there's not a lot of teams that
carry three quarterbacks. It's usually two plus a practice squad guy.
There's definitely nobody that carries four. I don't think the
last one I can remember is like the two thousand
or two thousand and one Patriots. That was just because
they didn't want Tom Brady to get swooped up before
(26:42):
he starts starting. I really do think that the math
game of all this ends up with Flacco as a starter,
and I'm just more interested about what unfolds with the
rest of the roster. I think as everybody that's paying
attention to Cleveland is as well.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I do think It's Flacco's job to lose, all.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Right, Nace, So maybe four quarterbacks is too much for you.
So I'm gonna go ahead and back it down. Let's
go to a New York Giants where there's only three quarterbacks. Okay,
Russell Wilson is the presumed starter out there in New York.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
How safe is his starting role?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Though?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
With Jackson dart On on the depth.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Chart, Tommy Devitos slander.
Speaker 14 (27:18):
But I think my answer to this question is if
you just look at the Giants schedule and you'll find
your answer.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
The Giants face the hardest schedule in the NFL this year.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
By stats.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know, look at it.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
But six of their eight first eight games are against
playoff teams from last year, eight of their first twelve
games are against playoff teams last year, and the other
games are against the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys, the Bears.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And the Saints. Okay, we'll give you the Saints. We'll
throw that one in there.
Speaker 14 (27:44):
You got a head coach in the GM working for
their job, really so, and Jackson dart is this beautiful
thing called a mystery box. So I think that when
I really, if I were to put a number on this,
I say by Thanksgiving somewhere in November, because when that
slate of games that first half the year where they
take a deep breath, I think they get a ten
day or a little mini by.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think that's where you see the rookie quarterback get
dropped in.
Speaker 14 (28:08):
Because it's I'm really excited about the Giants defense, but
the offense do has worries no matter who the quarterback is,
just because the offensive line kind of gives me some iffiness.
So but I do think because of where this team
is heading and what I think the people in charge
have to do, I think we see Jackson Dart a
little bit earlier, maybe last six.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Weeks of this season. So I predict by Thanksgiving that
we see Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It does seem to make sense, you know, Nate, I
thought I was going to circle back on Tommy Cutlets,
but you said something about the Saints.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Can you reiterate with Caesar here?
Speaker 6 (28:39):
What were you saying?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh no, I was just throw the Saints there. Hey,
I got Kellen Morris Scott's all zines. Those are my guys.
I love that offensive line.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
I really.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Played that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Was like, what's going on my side? If you have
a message for night.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You feel free, man, It's all good.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Hey, hey, you guys are building a good front up there.
Calvin Banks good player too.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Keep showing the big guys. Yeah, exactly, its name.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Big fellas.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
They love that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hey, Nate, seriously, man, we love having you on with us.
You always drop a wealth of knowledge. And once again,
congrats on the new baby. Trying to get some sleep
and hopefully we will talk to you very soon. So
you know you guys so much for see you guys
more GMFB, Still the Cup. Welcome back to GMFB. We
are pumped to bring in our next guest, who is
(29:39):
entering his twelfth NFL season. Browns offensive tackle Cornelius Lucas
is with us. Man appreciate it and certainly Cornelius when
it comes down to your squad. One of the biggest
stories of the off season has been the Browns quarterback situation.
Have you done one interview this offseason without being asked
about this?
Speaker 10 (30:01):
Every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, I'm gonna hi up on the train here. Just
break it down for me. What's it actually like for
you at Minicampa. All of us have been talking about
dividing reps not the easiest thing. The conversations, everyone's talking
about it nationally. What's it like for you to be
involved in that?
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Oh? Personally, there's an old line. I have to look
back after each play call and make sure I'm looking
at the right person to analyze their cadence because each
each quarterback is slightly different, so I got to take
that into account with me getting off the ball and
stuff like that. But it's been pretty good so far. Man.
All the guys you've got to remember working really hard,
(30:39):
and I feel like competition at the quarterback spot can
be good, you know what I'm saying, because that's the
most important position on the team, and if you have
a competition there, you'll have competition everywhere.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
I has the interaction been with Dylan Gabriel and Sar Sanders,
and also what's your rookie dinner expectations with them?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So far?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
There's been two good rookies.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
Man.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
You know, they haven't come in and said too much.
It did too much. They just been sponge. Just seems
like they take a lot from my Gods, Sleepy Joe,
Like they just come in the building, they work. I'm
expecting to have a hell of a hell of a
rookie dinner for both of the guys, especially.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Man talking about the rookies, because you have a handful
of rookie of QBS that you are playing with currently.
But let's go back to last year where you had
the rookie and jayde Daniels right, you're protecting him out
there in Washington. Help us understand what did you see
in terms of his growth from the beginning of last
season all the way through the end.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
You guys playoff run Damn.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
I wouldn't see I wouldn't say growth. I would just
say consistency. Like from day one, guy had a plan
on how he wanted to work, and every day I've
seen him execute that plan, like morning's leave the snow,
Like no matter what it was, he was there at
four thirty five o'clock in the in the end door
doing the VR stuff with the players, getting the blitzes
(32:10):
at four hundred times game speed stuff like that. Man,
it was a surprise in the beginning, like seeing how
good this guy was, but as the year went on,
it just became the norm because that's what he showed
you each and every day.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Big Dog in the trenches, my guy, quick question. Man.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
You know, as offensive lineman, we do the dirty work.
You might really notice, is what we do. We kind
of like the unsung heroes. You know what it's like,
you know, putting in the work. If something goes bad,
it's our fault. If some goes good, somebody else did
a good job. So what's something you wish people knew
more about offensive linement?
Speaker 12 (32:49):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Shit, how we can play a seventy play game and
lock somebody up sixty nine players out of the game
and give them one second we had a bad game, Like,
I hate that. I wish you had more stats, more
good stats for office alignment.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I wish I.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Wish people study. I wish people study our technique the
same way they study while receivers in DBS. Man, Because
it's art to this, you know what I'm saying. Like,
it's an art to taking a guy against his will
and moving him somewhere that he doesn't want to be.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
No, absolutely, yeah, I'm wishing, and I agree with that wholeheartedly.
You know, we need a stat we need how many pancakes,
how many times I punched you in your chest? How
many twists I passed off? Because that's like you said,
it's an art. It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You ever see a skill player getting the old lines
dance like athletes no more?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, hey, look Cornelas you guys are going to
get some love.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
There is a Protector of the Year award now this year,
so that should be something interesting over your tenure of
your career. We actually had Tehron Armstead come through yesterday.
He gave us a little insight on his top five
people that he had to go against. Who was the
or who is the most challenging player that you've gone against?
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Oh man, I'm gonna go top five. I'm gonna take
it back for nostalgia. We're gonna start off with Julius Peppers.
Leave that long. I was blessed to this Peppers man.
Somebody in the forefront right now. We got the guy
(34:29):
Danil Hunter. I feel like he's a craftsman when it
comes to moves that no one has ever seen. He
has a complete, different, total, different bag. We got to
go with ninety five from the Browns. I've never seen
a first step, I've never seen a leticism and been
from a guy that's big, that that size. After that,
(34:53):
I see where I'm gonna go with my fourth and fifth,
Oh stank, I think real long and hard. We got
oh that guy from from the Raiders, crossby Max crossby
relentless pursuit, relentless effort, backup move for the backup move,
(35:14):
and then he has a backup move for that when
if it doesn't work. And that fifth one. Man, Uh,
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say crowd noise, I'm gonna put,
I'm gonna put I'm gonna put crowd noise in that
going into going into hosted territories, playing against fire breathing
and dragons, and you can't get a count, so you
(35:35):
gotta look to see what's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Yeah, man, all that stuff comes into play. Yeah, absolutely
for niggas. Man, I want to switch gears here a
little bit.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
You you've turned tragedy and devastating tragedy into good. Your
dad drowned when you were seven years old, and since
then you've created the Laps with Luke Swim and Leadership Camp.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Please tell us more about that.
Speaker 10 (35:57):
Well, this is something very near and dear to my heart. Man,
Like you said, my dad passed away at the at
the age of seven. To swim next event and water
has held a plague over me since then, just being
able to see how fast it could take your levels.
So one day, sitting down talking about significant other, she
was like, man, you should do a swim camp. A
lot of guys have football camps and all that, but
(36:18):
no one's really doing a swim camp. And gave us
some thought, and I teamed up with the guys that
Son of Saint led by Vivian Lee, and right now
we're on our third one. This year, I'm incorporating the
eighteenth Ward Brown Girls Swim Nola, raising canes and auctioner,
and together we've grown the campus. It's gonna be about
(36:39):
twenty five kids this year and with hopes so we're
going to move on to something bigger next year, to
being able to invite anyone and everyone that wants to
come from That's my hopes and plans for next.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Year moving forward.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
But as of right now, man, we're looking forward to
knock these next two days out. I have some great
speakers coming in just to give guys that don't have
a shot at the NFL, just to give them other
thoughts on what they want to be in life. Also,
while we learned how to swim, and you know, We're
gonna kind of kick it, hang back, eat some snacks,
drink juices, play basketball. You know what I'm saying. It's
(37:13):
gonna have two good days of fun in the sun.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's kind of awesome to hear that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
A really holistic view of what you can be when
you're an NFL player, And certainly following we saw some
images of you by the way, you look comfortable in
the water, which I know is a challenge. I actually
used to coach kids. I used to teach children and
adults how to swim, and sometimes there's a fear factor
with the adults that's that's really hard to overcome. You
actually learned to swim with some of the kids at
your camp. How challenging was it for you to overcome
(37:39):
that fear?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Well, through the years, I've like inched my way further
and further. I told myself when I turned thirty, I
was going to jump into the ocean off the yacht.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
I did that.
Speaker 10 (37:49):
Oh, So I've just been I've just been like building
my courage. And I couldn't just go into a swim
camp and be scared to get in the water with
the kids. Like I've grown myself. I've grown my courage
and myself enough to basically be comfortable enough to help
somebody else out in the water. And I know how
the trail water, and I'm just getting better each and
every time I go out. It's like it's like practice
(38:10):
and football.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Hey, yeah, fellas you guys here in the shade, the
little shade that he dropped right there, right, he said,
jumping off a yacht.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yes, twelve years in the league. You can go the
backflip that's there as well.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I saw you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I saw you dive into the water. By the way,
it looks like you're ready for a race, so you
have overcome that fear. But the way seriously awesome. This
cause is terrific, something that's close to me because I
certainly loved being the water as a kid as well.
So thank you for sharing your story, which I know
is not always the easiest thing to do in putting
together this camp. Continued success, man, and stay healthy this
upcoming season.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
Okay man, thank you for having me
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