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March 27, 2024 37 mins

Part One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with reaction to 'The Dynasty'  series.    Hosts Sara Walsh, Kyle Brandt, and Super Bowl Champions Jason and Devin McCourty discuss where the Cowboys are right now with Dak Prescott.  Which teams could surprisingly draft a QB?  Plus, the table gives their opinions on Bucky Brooks Mock Draft 3.0.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live in New
York City. It is Wednesday, March twenty seventh. I'm Sarah
walshon from my good friend Jamie Ertl alongside Kyle Brandt
in a double dose of mccordy's today. If you didn't
know Jason's always sitting here, then it's deven over. There
were two mccordy's.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
What a win on a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
You know what that's called.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
I just hope I'm Devin and we didn't. Would you
have no if I came in a satin that seat
I do?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean, well, I wasn't paying attention to the makeup rooms.
And you know what confuses me more? I can tell
if you neither one of your talking, it's the voices.
The voices are more confusing to me than like I can.
I can definitely tell that's devant.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Until you hear what we actually have to say. It
gets easier the dyna you've been watching it. The oh
you don't follow, you don't like keep up with me?
And one of the guys complaining after you said all
this stuff, and now you want to walk it back.
It was I don't walk anything back. That's not really
my cup of tea. But no, I gave eight hours.
You saw five minutes of it, So it's about the

five minutes you see TV. You want to get the
good people out there and get them in front of
the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You brought this up because all the stuff we planned
for the show, this is all nonsense for three hours
about the documentary, Devin, what you're saying is you talk
for a long time and they only took the really
juicy bits from you.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Like, what were you expecting, not just the juicy.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Don't just only go negative.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I don't like I know you're gonna say, take some
of the negative things. But it was like, man, I
played for thirteen years in New England. We happened to
go to five Super Bowls, we happened to win three
of them, and my career came down to Hernandez episode,
Malcolm Butler episode, a Trump episode, Deflate Gate episode, and
it was like, oh yeah, by the way, they also
had the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. Oh by

the way, they held one team to three points in
Super Bowl. It was like, oh yeah, Well, we'll give
the little like three minute glimpse of what Bill.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Belichick draw up.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
You was out there and we got you a Super
Bowl struggle for you at.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
First, but to me that was the issue.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
It was just all of the negative and it was
just like small glimpse of, Hey, these guys happened to
win at a historic rates.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
If you're in the media, you don't know how the
media works.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now, I mean you're part of us.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Of course I do.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
But that's why you always got to give your opinion
because that's a part of the media.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
What's the one thing of all the things you just named,
what's the one thing that you remember talking to them
about that you were like, I wish this part wasn't
I wish the Steven McCrory SoundBite was in there.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I think it was. The Trump stuff was one aspect
of our team. But I think from that what our
team grew into to Ultimately, we.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Were a huge part of a guy.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Getting released from prison after twenty eight years and it
wasn't just like a player or two.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Bill Belichick was one of the.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
First people to sign his name on a letter to
the governor. That was kind of unheard of for the
Patriots to get involved.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
In anything like that.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
And I thought that showed kind of what our team
went through from twenty sixteen and seventeen, of guys feeling
a little bit at odds, some of the things going
on outside the locker room, and what we kind of
grew into. I thought that was kind of a full
circle moment that I thought would have been pretty good TV.
But I think it was too wholesome to show for
the We.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Need them a cordy cut, you know, appreate it, like,
let's see all I.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Need to get with Edelman and Slater.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
We need to the text change must be popping.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, bring a group together.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Get you guys are watching this texting each other? What
the hell is all this nonsense? It's awesome to hear.
We just grilled you in the first two.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We we just got rid of a ton of segments.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's already in my ear. This is done, This has done.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
This is thence, So we got to move time for
the lead block. We got some big news from the
Cowboys yesterday. According to NFL Network insider in Rapaport, Dallas
and Dak Prescott have a mutual understanding that there will
be no adjustment to Dak's contract before the twenty twenty
four season, meaning he's going to play on the final
year of his deal. Jerry Jones spoke about it yesterday

in Orlando.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
That constitute do any and everything he can own and
off the field to help us win.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
And so we are where we are.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
We have our contract. We're locked and loaded for this year,
and we can see as we move along how we
are thinking. We inclusive of everybody. Hear us, Dad, and
we'll see what we do. I don't have anything to
report today.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay, So mister Jones is they are locked and loaded
for this year. Rap Sheet also adds that this clears
the path for Dak Prescott to test free agency in
twenty five. So what do you make of all that
is going on with Dak and the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (04:35):

Speaker 5 (04:35):
The one thing that stands out is you said mutual.
They both decided like, hey, we're not going to do
anything to the contract. So for Dak, it was just like,
you know what, I don't want any more money. I
don't want to be here for more years than just
this one that I'm going to play out. That's the
confusing thing to me, or as the Dallas Cowboys saying, hey,
you know what, another season of what we just went

through of it was amazing. During the regular season, we're
bringing everybody back. We lost to the Green Bay package,
we got blown out at home. You know what, it
might be time for maybe we play out this year
and we see what next year brings us.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
I look at this from Dak Prescott's perspective.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
We just watched Kirk Cousins play out the last year
of his deal. He took off and he went to Atlanta.
In twenty nineteen, I was with the New England Patriots,
where Brady for the first time went into the last
year of his deal. He took off, he went to
Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl. For Dak Prescott,
you talked about it, he has no trade claws, no
tag calls clause. So for him, when this season wraps up,

why am I gonna stay with the Dallas Cowboys. Depend
upon how the season goes, He'll have many suitors. There'll
be so many teams at that point that are dying
for a quarterback that they're gonna look at him. Dak
Prescott makes our team better. We can bring him there
and feel like we have the roster plug him in
and maybe we can win some more games. So I
look at this and it's just like, for fans, are
you start are you starting to photoshop Dak Prescott? What's

your favorite team on it? For fans, do you want
Dak Prescott? For Cowboys fans, You're looking at it and
it's like, have we seen enough of this story? Have
we seen enough of Dak Prescott? We get to the playoffs,
we win a lot of games, we put up, we
put up stature, but we fall short. Dallas Cowboys seems
like you always say it for the past almost thirty years.
It's the same thing, the same thing, the same thing.
Is this the lead into at the end of the season?

Blown this thing up? Maybe keeping Micah Parsons in Ceedee
Lamb and going out there and there could be a
new quarterback and Dallas.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Dak Prescott should do what I did last night.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I looked at this and I was like, you know
what types in on Google top quarterback free agent signings.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
If Dak looks around, he'll.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Look at and he'll see Drew Brees, He'll see Kurt Warner,
he'll see Peyton Manning, he'll see Tom Brady. And when
he sees those names. All of those guys went on
to new teams and they won Super Bowls. These pictures
are guys hoisting Lombardi Trophies because they won Super Bowls.
So is this a unique situation, No doubt about it.
Anytime the team comes out and says, hey, we talked,

we've mutually agreed that it's not gonna work out, they're
basically saying, hey, buddy, we got one year left and
then we're gonna let you fly.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
We're gonna let you go wherever you want.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
And what I think is interesting about that in twenty nineteen,
when we had Brady on our team, we all knew
that at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
He would be a free agent.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
I think as a player, you start to think about that,
Like I never thought I'd be a free agent. I
played for the Dallas Cowboys. I thought I'd be the
Cowboy quarterback forever.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
You start to look out there. You play against a.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Team, they have weapons, they're on offense, and you kind
of look at the quarterback you say that quarterback's not
that good. If I'm dak, maybe I'll start shooting some
text message out to guys, Hey, how you guys.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Doing over there? Hey, where did everybody go out and eat?
What's the massage therapist like over there?

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Like all of these little questions, you start thinking about
your next year because that's what's important. And you know,
if they get off to an eight and oh start,
then yeah, you start thinking about a super Bowl. But
in Dallas it hasn't looked good, you know, in the postseason,
but during the regular season they've won, and I think
the fan base starts to get tired. I got picked
up from the airport yesterday from the owners meetings, and
my guy, George is my driver. He was like, I'm

okay with it. Let Dak be a free agent Alboys.
I'm okay with his.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Diehard Cowboys fan.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
And you start to see that more and more. You
talk to different people and.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
They're like, oh, we don't need them, I'm time. I'm
ready for a new quarterback.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Anyway, and be careful. A lot of these teams moved
on to new quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
They went some year as well feeling pretty bad.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
The driver's always got takes thought and some of the
best ones.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
And you know, if they're that mouthy, they're talking about
you too.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Got mccordy a lot of luggage, nice stuff, nice stuff.
They're real, Chad, Listen, there's a thing going on right now.
And it's so all these big quarterbacks with all this money,
there's teams starting to say like we might want to
get busy living a little bit and move on. Like
let's just think back to like Matthew Stafford with the Lions,
Matt Ryan with the Falcons were like, we love you,

it's just it's just time. So that the Packers do
it with Rogers and they say, we got a four
time MVP and it's just it's just time. And obviously
they had a young guy to look at the Vikings
with Cousins, they didn't have squad and.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
They just said it's time.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
If you're paying all this money and you're like you're
not splashing in title games, let alone Super Bowls, Like
what are we doing? We can because the problem is
like the Cowboys in the playoffs every year, right, but
like when we look back on the dak Era ten
and fifteen, twenty years now, we're not gonna be able
to decipher one year, what was that twenty and they're
all the same. And also like you never get a
good draft pick, you never do any It's always like

I mean, does anybody think the Cowboys are going to
win the Super Bowl next year?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
They're like, no, we all know that.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And I think deep inside the Cowboys are starting to
learn that, Like, do we want to just get in
the wild card and divisional maybe sometimes and pay a
ton of money for a very good player and a
very good person. Or do we want to say, like,
I think we've tried this enough times and let's just
get out of this business. That's how it is. There's
a lot of that going on right now. I think
it's we also get seduced by the draft. Look at
these young guys. They're so cheap, and we could bring

them in and it'd be fresh. I think the Cowboys finally,
maybe finally, are starting to think like, this isn't working
and it's not working to our standard. I think it's exciting.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I do. I do.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I just think though, there's this pump the brakes moment,
and this is a quarterback driven league, right there are
a very small number of these elite guys.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Then there's you.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Know the middle of it's really hard to get anybody
in that elite category.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's really hard.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
How many franchises have just struggled and struggled and struggled
with this quarterback turnover and not finding the right guy,
and so yes, everything you're saying, I understand, like they're
not it's not getting them to the super Bowl. But
at the same time, it's that what's behind door number two?
And I don't think for a second that the Cowboys franchise,
of all franchises, is.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Going to go.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I will just sort of be like middling around here
for a little bit, like we're okaybing like five hundred or.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
A little bit below five hundred. They're not going to
be okay with that.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And I understand like going to the playoffs and winning
one game is no longer good enough. But the alternative
is I always think it's like the alternative is what
And it's the same thing with the coaches.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like we're gonna get rid of this go even though.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Mike McCarthy situation, what's what's better? What's your situation that
is better? What is behind door number two? That's definitely
going to.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Get you there?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
It is Dak one of those elite guys like is
he Jason likes to talk about Sometimes there's this one
guy I'm not gonna name, but Jason always says whenevery
it comes up in commercial break as a quarterback, a
well known guy just is like, that's not a guy
you worry about, Like you don't worry during that week.
And I'm not going to name the guy. You know
who I'm talking about, Like, is Dak one of those guys?
He's a very good player and he puts up numbers.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You're like, oh man, we got Dak this week. He's good.
I don't know if he's on the like the crazy list.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
And it's that train of thought, like I was in Cleveland.
We know how that year went. We didn't win a
single game, but it was a thought from an organization.
Do you stay and end up middle of the pack,
to your point, or do you say, you know what,
we really want to win the whole thing, so we
have to build a rassert, break it all the way down,
and build it back up in the sense of now
we're actually competing for a super Bowl. Because to your point,

you do the confetti.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Test after all of these years with Dak.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Wearing a number four for the Dallas Cowboys, if I
can't see the confetti faller in us hoisting and Lombardi,
do you say you know what, blow the whole thing up,
start all over and see instead of just continuing to
pay the superstars. Next thing, you know, you have to
repay Dak, you have to pay Mike, You got to
pay Ceedee Lamb. You know, look around and you don't
have a whole roster bill and it's like, but can
this team get you to the promise land?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Let me ask this the confetti test.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Was there no point during the year last season that
you sat on this desk.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
There was there no point that you could have seen
the confection.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
I picked the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I was one of the most disappointed people coming to
here on Monday after the trackers just annihilated them.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
An expert, buddy, not advise an expert.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Who's your super Bowl pick? Last? Do you remember out
of curiosity? Do you remember how you picked on the Patrick?

Speaker 6 (12:19):
The Bills every year picked the pat picked the Chief.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
You picked the Chief?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Take the Chief?

Speaker 6 (12:24):
The reason I'm going.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
The who's on vacation?

Speaker 2 (12:31):

Speaker 3 (12:31):
College pro days are here? You want to look towards
the future, Here we go With NFL Plus get access
to exclusive live coverage of top draft prospects. Check out
LSU's Jane Daniels today and un sees Drake Mate tomorrow.
You can catch it all on NFL plus still to
come here on GMFB. Which team could make a surprise
move free quarterback in next month's draft.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
We're gonna give you our picks. It is Whiteboard Wednesday.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
Straight ahead, good roning football.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
It is time now for Whiteboard Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Here we go with Daniel Jones, seemingly the guy for
the Giants at quarterback. Team owner John Marra is given
his GM and his head coach the green light to
draft a quarterback at six overall if they so choose.
Speaking to reporters, Mara said, if they fall in love
with the quarterback and they believe that it's worth pick
number six or moving up, I would certainly support that.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
So, guys, here's the question.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
The team you'd be most surprised to see draft a
quarterback in Round one would be who Jason.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think there's a team where they're going all in.
They're trying to win a Super Bowl. This year they
had an MVP quarterback. I'm going with.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
The je TX Jets.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Jets, Jets, they have a first round pick. Now you
look at the ross, so they have a quarterback and
Tyrod Taylor that's thirty five years old. They have a
quarterback and Aaron Rodgers, and both these guys when the
season starts, who's going to be forty years old with
their first round draft pick?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Who knows?

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Why not take a quarterback Zach will Since the youngest
guy on the roster. They can't give Zach Wilson away
right now. So what if the Jets decide, you know what,
in the second round, we're gonna go out and get
somebody for Aaron Rodgers. But in the first round, we
want to secure our future and make sure we have
somebody on our roster to take over. Such a quarterback
friendly draft, why not? I would be surprised, But who knows.

The New York Jets gone rollover? There's no shots d
have you? Did you not see anything in Green Bay
taking quarterbacks, not taking the guys Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
In the lower third?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
You see that it says team you'd most be surprised, Yeah,
but still put some thought into it.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
It's obvious, man.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
We then boys, we we just we just talked about
Dak press out.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
He's leaving next year. He's gonna be in a new home.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
And the Cowboys fans won a Super Bowl, So yeah,
they're gonna all be surprised, like, why would we draft
this quarterback we don't need, We don't need Spencer Rattler,
we don't need both Knicks. But then they're gonna get
this guy and they're gonna be angry and all of
these different things. But we like, we'll be a little surprised,
but we won't because we see what's coming. It's right
in front of our face. So it's of course as

we then, boys.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I have not touched my board since you turned yours around. Yeah,
and look what mine says. Devin and I have better chemistry.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
In one second, the Jason nine two years unbelievable, Devan
I have. I'm the same way.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
We just did our seven to a block as we
call it in the TV terms about Wow. Maybe there
could be the end of Dak and Dallas and there's
no extension coming. Jerry loves Dax much. He loved what
Dak represents. He loves Dak's image, he loves Dak's jersey
being sold.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
He loves them. I feel like you just can't let
him go.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
They will keep losing the wild card round every single year,
occasional magical run to the division around when they have
a parade afterwards.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Jerry loves Dak.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
They'll probably give him a twenty billion dollar extension at
some point in part of the owner's lifetime life lifetime contract.
Whenever you want, Dak Prescott is always the quarterbacks cowboard.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
He loves it when the rubber meets the road. I
don't see Dak leave.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't either. Here's the next one.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Ahead of the opening of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey's
Steakhouse fifteen eighty seven, Prime Mahomes revealed to reporters that
Ketchup and the Andy Reid Cheeseburger will definitely be on
the menu. So the player of the coach inspired dish
that you would like included on the menu at your
NFL themed restaurant would.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Be what I love that these two guys are doing
the steakhouses in Kansas City. I'm gonna go with a
guy on the Cleveland Browns. He's not gonna have his
own steakhouse, he hasn't not known enough there to do that.
But at let's say Marlboro, a beautiful steakhouse in Cleveland,
he's gonna add something to the menu, and it's gonna
be Winston's Surf and Turf guy, Jameis Winston.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
He just got there.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
This is one of the most fascinating, the most fun
interesting players in the NFL, the.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Surf and Turf. You're gonna get whatever steak you want, Rabbi,
whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
And on the very side, you're gonna throw away the lobster.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
You don't want the lost.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Tail, a side of some King crab legs. I'm all
for this. Jamis is walking in with the perfect item
to add to your menu. Cleveland Restaurants, get on top
of it. Winston's Surf and Turf.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
You can only get it there. Do it at the
Marble Room. Love it.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
You came on.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Now you're in it. That's why you're in it. Now
I'm going I'm going with.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
The sexy, rexy toe shaped frad These will be you
can't have this awesome.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
This is New York.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I'm ready you come to New York City to get
these toe shape fries. But the thing about these toe
shape fries you can get regular. That's if you're just
like a normal person's or you come get that occasion
and if you're really into it, everybody's favorite, those truffle
shaped toe shape. Friest Rex has talked about long lasting
foot wills Welker hit in the twenty ten he said,

feed or toe reference like ten times before a playoff
game didn't work out for us, but you come get
those Patriots going through What do you mean that's a
great good.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Y're in the Patriots locker room.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
The biggest story in sports is that the head coach
of the Jets appears to have a foot finish? What
are you guys saying? I mean, I mean, because I
know what we were saying in the media.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
What was that like? As a Patriot?

Speaker 5 (18:16):
It was laughing, jokes a little bit in it, but
it wasn't a big deal until we all caught wind
of Wes Welker's interview. And next thing you know, West
doesn't play the first quarter of the game, and that
was like that, that's serious, Like I'm not sure, but
it was unable. Of course it was hilarious, but most
of our laughing came from the Wes Welker interview.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Because he if anybody isn't remember, it's the biggest story
out the world. Really, Wes welcomes up there and under
the guys of doing a normal interview. He's talking about
all the guys that you know they got really good feet,
and he's good with his feet.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
They're good foot soldiers, like foot soldiers. Was the biggest
reach I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But he got it in anyways, and then Belichick benched
him because you know he's Belichick's but that was an
unbelievable moment. We played that on the radio constantly, like
West wherever you are. I feel like she's getting beers
bought for him for that, and he's coaching now I know,
I love it.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
That was really good.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
The foot and it comes with like these onions with
buns and they're called onions and it's great.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Remember here's a throwback.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
How about a year ago, Remember when we were talking
about the Russ spicy sandwich.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Remember when he joins Denver he does.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
That unthinkable commercial in which he's talked to camera and
he's like, hey, you ever do anything.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Dangerous some of my sandwich. Be careful though it's spicy,
and we were like, I'm terrified at this commercial.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I think it was PFT comments or you said, it's
like Russ is talking to someone who's tied up to
a chair gagged and he's just giving him a monologue
like it was the strangest thing.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
But Pittsburgh known for sandwiches, bring this.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Spicy sandwich back and when you do it, everybody go
try it, but be careful though it's spicy.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
That's still on YouTube. I'm gonna go watch.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
They gotta do something in the stadium with it. They
like Russ's touchdowns. Everybody in a spicy Russ.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
We call it a rust down and then we'll ride
and we'll weld and all that.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I can't wait for the Brandy.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I just don't know if he's gonna make it the
week one as the starter, like when he does, let's
get the sound, let's we.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Were already so long that I got kicked out of
Whiteboard Wednesday. But I was going to do you guys
are all doing like the main course, and I was like,
you have to have an appetizer, and the obvious appetiser
I was going to do here is Tanzel Smart's carcuccie board.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I mean, who does love a carcucie board, right?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I mean it's yeah, you know that would have been
that would have been in my starter. So that's my
contribution there. I'm sneaking in there.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You're a great foot Soldiers.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
The trailer.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
The trailer for the fourth installment and the Bad Boys
franchise titled Bad Boys Ride or Die dropped yesterday. The
NFL take over all time that you would ride or
Die with is what Jason.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I started to go, like defense wins championships. I was like,
you know what, that's just a little bit too generic.
So the one thing that Kyle has said to me
for the last two years since starting the show that
is in relation to me.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Was Super Bowl fifty three was the greatest super Bowl
of all time.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Kyle Brand always tells me how much is just loves
defense and the fact that he was able to sit
down and watch this game and just watch two dominant
defenses go to work, the lowest scoring super Bowl in
NFL history, Gilmour's interception, mccordy's pass break up, van neyt
high Tower, make it hits on Jared Goff. He said

he jumped off his seat every time one of these
defensive plays were made, and he was honored to get
a chance to work alongside me and just talk about
what Super Bowl fifty three was like.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
So in honor of Kyle Brandt.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I had to go with this hands not only the
most boring Super Bowl ever played, arguably the most boring
football game ever played, or sporting contest I've seen one.

Speaker 4 (21:43):

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Baseball games were more excited. I've told this story depth.
I don't want to name Droff. I'm sorry, but like
a few rows behind me that was at the game,
few rows behind me with Steve Harvey and he is
doing ad lib comedy.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
But this is the worst damn game I've ever seen.
I'm about to get out of here right now. Like
he was holding court about how boring the game was.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
And you know why I was so boring because of
you guys, because you were that good against that Gurly offense.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Would have been nice if Tom and company can score
some points.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean there was they were terrible too, but this
terrible game. You guys got rings and everything. Your family's complete.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I sucked. I'm sorry. That was a tough watch.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Sorry after that, tough guys pay defense. Okay, this, I
mean everybody talks about it. If you want a tough guy,
and I always remember being in New England.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Coach Belichick will say stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Like, you know, the guy's pretty good, but he's gonna
play offense for us. He just doesn't have the it
and that is being tough, playing through injury, being a
little crazy. You watch all the different things Rodney Harrison
fighting guys in practice that doesn't really come from offense.
Every once in a while you get the Logan Mankins
offensive line and that loves to fight, get after it.
You think defense, so you think you think Ronnie Lock

cutting off half of his finger to don't play any
like those are the type of things guys on defense do. Offense,
they want to score touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Be pretty If there's anybody in the league right now
who'd say, I cut my finger off so I can
stay in the game.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
They're like, that might get me on the n NFL
list non football related injury, might take my guarantee money.
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, And how's that going to look on YouTube?

Speaker 5 (23:05):

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And you know I got things to do in the
two games a R. This is a classic. This is
my take. Don't need to play in the NFL to
talk about it. There's a loaded topic here at the table,
and this an archaic take that some people still have.
It's normally pretty much things of the past. But occasionally
it still comes up. I only have so much free
time in my day, and I spend most of it
listening to X and current athletes talking about football, including Jason.

I'm just I've never been here for this idea that
if you didn't play this game, you can't talk about
the game. I used to be really insecure about it
because I showed up the NFL network and the top
line of my athletic resume I was an average one
double a running back and I'm on the same network
as la Danian Thomason and Marshall Falk, who are on
my running back rushmore. But as much as I constantly
listen to athletes love athletes like still, I think some
of the most interesting people in the industry are people

who never played in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Peter Schrager did not play for the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Guys like Nick Wright, fascinating guy was not a Steelers linebacker.
Maggie Gray here in New York City on apologetic incredible opinions.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Even people outside of football.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Ariel Helwani, super sharp, razor Sharp, don't think you as
an MMA fighter.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
I think athletes have this huge advantage you. I'll just
say you guys are sitting here in that you have.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
An incredible ability to inform and to entertain. I think
the handicap that you have to work against is that
it's difficult to relate to fans because you've never been
one to connect with fans.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
And you know, I'll.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Watch these pods sometimes that ex athletes do, and they're
sitting around and they're talking to each other and seeing
these brilliant, entertaining things, and the guys are noding they're
not and they're not. I don't know if the people
at home are nodding like, I don't know if they relate.
So I don't want to cause like a civil war
here or anything. I just I've always stood up for
that because every once in a while I hear it.
I just think some of the best, smartest, most interesting
people did not play this game. I like listening to

actors talk about movies.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I love it. But I love reading Roger.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Everccollums or Peter Travers or Sean Fantasy and can go
on and on and on. So I don't know where
this came from, but I was asked this question and
I was just like, it still comes up eventually, there
is it Sometimes does, and there's like a prejudice or
something I'm still standing against. And we've had segments right
here on this table. We're doing a lot of reflecting
right now. It's kind of the end of an era.
And look, it's elephant in the room. We had D'angela

Williams here, who I still like and admire, and he
was just came.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
He was coming for Peter and me. He was like,
I don't want to hear what you.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Guys have to say about the page because you didn't play.
And it became this infamous segment. And if I ever
see D'Angelo, I'd love to see him. It was a
great guy, weird segment. But I still get asked about
it all the time, and so I still stand for it.
You know, people say, well, he didn't play in the NFL,
so how do you talk about it?

Speaker 4 (25:24):
All right, Well, do you want to just go.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Around like so you don't want you don't respect Andy
Reid's opinion he didn't play in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Mike Tomlin, John harbos seam the baby. We can keep going, Bill,
Bill Belichick never a down.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So I'm sitting here with two very decorated ex athletes,
and I know you guys gotten where you are in
park because you have so much respect and so much
appreciation for all the things in this media. So as
we're kind of wrapping up a last chapter here in
Good Morning Football, before we start our new chapter, I start,
I would bring it full circle and I.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Will always go by that.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Take respect all the athletes, love the athletes, really respect
the non athletes too.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
And no doubt about it for me to pass the
years working alongside you, working alongside the god assist in
that share in Peter Schruger and obviously Jamie so Hower.
We did our audition when I was doing it for
the show. You guys such a unique and amazing perspective
to this show, to the game of football, and I think,
as ex athletes, when we sometimes failed to realize when
I started this show, I had no idea of your resume,

of what you have done beyond just sitting at this
desk at NFL Network and the same goals for Shrek.
So I think sometimes players show up and they're like, well,
what do you know about football? And they look at
you it's just like, oh no, I've been doing this
for over a decade and TV and doing sports media
is different from playing a game. You're making content that
people want to consume, and you two guys are amazing

at it. And I wouldn't work with anybody other than
you two guys.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I love you, I love you.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
I love you too, Buddy.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
And you see guys who played and can connect with fans.
And that's why Pat is pat like he's incredible because
he can do both.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Total respect for it.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I just think it's it would be a good podcast
sitting here debating in this topic. We have some times, Jason,
maybe we should start it.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Was this the end of the show. Just are we
done today?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Got to get a Bucky Brook's latest mock.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Draft A really nice wrap up there.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yes, Bucky Brooks is coming, so we're coming back latest
mock draft Mores.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
You might be on the way mona.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Mock draft season? Is there anything more exciting than that?
With twenty nine days until Round one in Detroit, here's
the top ten from Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Three point zero dropped yesterday.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's got the Bears taking Shocker Caleb Williams, the Commanders
selecting Jade Daniels, and then JJ McCarthy heading to the
Patriots third overall Marvin Harrison Junior Joe Roll run out
the top five. Both the Giants and Jets add big
offensive weapons. So guys, what stands out in the top
ten of Bucky's mock?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Three point? Oh Jason.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
So I just got into the media year ago.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
So I'm only one draft end of sitting at this
seat and analyzing and going through it, and I'm kind
of spoiled. I look at Bucky Brooks draft and the
one thing the ten teams that he has up there
that is the stock order that they come in. You
go and purchase something, and it's just regular. That's why
it is right there. No trades, know anything. I look
at last year in March, we see the Bears trade

the number one pick, and I'm like, oh my god,
the Bears are now what's going on? The papers are
gonna have They're gonna get Brice you on. And then
so many different things happened before the draft. The Jets
they go out there and they get Aaron Rodgers and
them and the Packers they flop first round picks and
then you know what, the draft begins. Houston they draft CJ.
Strot at number two. We're like, all right, they got

strout all the speculation. They trade and they get the
number three pick, and then they go back and they
get Will Anderson. They Eagles traded to nine, they got
jel and Carter. There was so many different trades in it.
Are running back was drafted in the first round in
Jamier Gifts and the Lions moved up to get him.
So I look at Bunkie Brooks top ten and I'm like, what,
there's no trades. No one's gonna move up and get

one of these quarterbacks. No one's gonna move up and
feel like the receiver's gonna.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Fall off the board, or get one of these offensive tackles. Somebody.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I just need that excitement in the first round in
those top ten picks, something we didn't expect.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
What do you think make a splash? Like just look
at that?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
And well we saw DJ.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
We saw DJ Dale Jeremiah saying he had the Vikings
moving all the way up to four to get JJ
McCarthy and the first four picks were all quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
I want to see something.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
We already heard Monte Austin for saying for the Arizona Cardinals, Hey.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
That Green Neon sign open for business.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
It is there.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Dan Quinn mentioned the herschel Walker trade. Somebody, just trade
all your future assets. Go up there and get your guys.
Say you know what if it doesn't work, my entire
family's moving and we're looking for a new job. That's
the thing right now, people are moving and moving out
from the East coast to the west coast.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
And all that.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
I want to see that happen. I need to trade in.
I got you, I got your new England. Patriots trade
back with the Vikings and no nobody wants to see that.
All I'm saying, did you not see Gerro Mayo said
it plenty of times? He said, if they offer a bag,
they can have the pit. If they offer somebody's got
the good. So I'm giving you throwing ideas out there.
I'm saying, Patriots trade back.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
So this is great. So we've talked about this a lot.
The Patriots offense last year is unbelievably bad. Got shut
out twice at home, exit to it in a game
right to Brandon Staley and Dennis Allen and the two
coaches to shut them up that wasn't in the dock.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
There just need to be a doc by that.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So but I mean, there's this thought of like my guy,
Like they got a good defense and we loved Judaan especially.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
They gotta have a quarterback, right, they got to get one.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
But the things, if you don't get the right guy,
it doesn't matter. And then, like you just said, the
offense is so bad, you have so many holes to fix,
Like why just get one person? If we could get
three people that make us a better So it's a thought,
and I'm not saying I got background information on it,
but it's an idea that the whole time Bill Belichick,
all he did was trade back, and it's like, well,
finally he's gone, We're getting the number three pick. I

think it would be pretty funny if the Patriot's like, eh,
trade back, it's a good word.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
But let's think about you.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like so they trade back and they're like, screw it, Jacoby,
that's our guy. Every single person in your walk of
life and your career is going to ask you, Devan,
Devin Devan, what do you think about what they did?
What would be your response if they trade back at
a bunch of picture, that's great, but they still don't
have like a young promising quarterback, what would you say?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
It's all now on the future. The next two years,
we're going to be what you see. The problem with
it is a little bit of everyone keeps talking about
next year is not a quarterback strong draft.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
But it's interesting to me because even this year is like,
this is.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
A quarterback strong draft because Caleb Williams and Drake May
is all we heard going into the season, and then
it was like, oh no, Jayden Dams is here, and
now all of a sudden, this week is JJ McCarthy.
Depending like all of these different guys pop up, so
I think it would be them. I would say it's
them betting on the future rather than saying, let's make
everybody happy now even though we don't believe in this

guy going forward. So and that was my reaction. You know,
Drake May in the top ten shock me, like this
was the guy a couple months ago that everyone kept saying.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Could be this great quarterback.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Only Caleb Williams is better than him, And now all
of a sudden, he's at eleven.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
He still might be too.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, And that's what's funny to me because even last
sure watching someone and stuff, I'm like, why does so
much movement happen? The college season is over? Why is
everybody's pig and where they're at. Why does all the
stuff keep changing? Are we getting that much from the Combine?
And pro days?

Speaker 2 (32:14):

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Who knows salary? You're right, I think we say all
of these things and then Drake may go second to
Washington and we're like, oh, okay, we did all our
talking for no reason, but it keeps us employees.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know what's funny is I remember being at the
Combine a couple of weeks ago and Raheem Moore is
sort of a simple question. Someone goes, hey, why is
it just so hard to get the quarterback thing right?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
At the Combine?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
They do all like for months and months years, You're
watching tape on these guys. You're you're drilling them on questions,
on background, on their forties, on everything.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Why is it so hard? And he's like, it's just
it's impossible.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
He's like, you can't get it right, and then he
points to the most obviously he goes, nobody got Tom
Brady right.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean he's like, it's just the one thing that
nobody So.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
For all the studying, for all the time and effort
and research you put into this, it's there's no formula
that I mean people teams always say the process, it
doesn't it doesn't pan out the exact same way. And
I also feel like, because it's talked about ad nauseum,
so you're to your point where you're like, these guys
aren't playing another game, why does it change. Yeah, it's
just sort of like you're sitting in this like still space.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And people continue to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
So it's got to do So it's too much time,
so you can't So if you have Caleb one and
you have Drake too, well, now we're sitting here, it
can't be that for the next thirty days or six
whatever you're doing leading up to drop. So we're like,
we got to shift that and shake it up. So
when you're like, where's Drake makee, I'm like, god'll probably
be two when all of a sudden done.

Speaker 4 (33:27):

Speaker 1 (33:27):
The thing that I'm out on, I think I've reached
this point. I love the pro days. They're awesome, theater, like,
it's really fun, it's entertainment. I just love how it's
set up, and I love the indoor practice so that
it's just like if you're a football JUNKI you love it.
But like these guys who make a jump because of
their pro day. Come on, you're playing catch with receivers
you've known for years.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
There's no rush, there's no defenders. It's like, whoa incredible?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
They completed almost all their pacity What do you mean
almost all? They were some that were completed, they're just
p devs. So like, I think they're great, and I
think you can get up close look at them and
all the mechanics and armed delivered footwork awesome. But like,
so we're looking at this Jaj McCarthy thing, pabas like
greatest one I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
So like, if that's great that he did well.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
But if you're like, you know, we had him around
twelve on our board in terms of the picks, but
you know, after that pro day, I think we're gonna
wager our whole future on him because he was incredible
with his college teammates in seventy two degrees with no
rush in full.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I mean, come out, what are we doing? Are you
in on that?

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I think it stands out more if you go to
a PRODA and a guy has a ton of incompletions.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
If he's bad, sure, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
And I think I've talked to Schroigs about this countless times.
He talks about Zach Wilson's prode, He talks about Johnny
Manziel's probably and walked away. Manziel had the shoulder pads
on the helmet. They had the brooms out trying to
deflect the passes. But to your point, when all this time,
whatever touch point you have that you can talk about
a prospect and put some form of any evaluation on him,

To your point, the thing about.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
The protas is you look at deployer. The prospects are all.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Doing their thing, but then you look in the background,
and as General man Fosters had coaches, there's this person
talking to that person, and you just like to analyze
it and.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Pick it apart.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
We looked at the entire Carolina Panthers organization being there,
dapping them up, hugging him like this is a matchmate
in heaven. The entire staff got fired and they moved
on to Dayton out. So it was just like, you
don't know. I was talking to Jason Garrett about they said,
you go to the pro day, He said, when we
drafted tyrons, he said, we knew we were taking them,
he said, but I'm walking around, I'm looking at other
guys and I'm peeking out of the corner of my
eye the seats because everyone's looking at what this guy's

looking at. What are they going to do? He said,
we had the ninth pick, so everyone's wondering, are we
gonna take them? Are we gonna trade back? And he said,
like I'm trying to kind of like peek at the
girl that's walking by, Like I know, I'm sitting here
with my wife and I can't and I'm like trying
to peek.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Put some glasses off at a little too veteran, right WHOA?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Now what you do to say? Honey? Look over there.
She's looking to.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
It, Jason quickly, Patriots don't take quarterback, they trade back.
All that you're gonna start ding, You're gonna getting all
these emails.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
You gotta come on the pod. Come on the pod.
What's your take if that happens?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Take a cord, Please just take a quarterback. I don't
I don't want to see you guys trade back and draft.
Devin mccorn at the twenty seventh fig Yes.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Great, Patriot thirteen, you're a good player.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
They need a new podcast online, guys, who were really good,
but think they were amazing because Tom Brady and Beligium, no.
Nothing that gets you the key to being a Patriot.
Take take a quarterback. We want to see a quarterback there.
There's this new freshness of Ji Mao, Elliot Wolf, all
of these guys.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
The defense can be really good.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Take a quarterback and let Jacoby Jacoby starts the season.
He's playing. That's amazing. But you have somebody there as well. Jacoby.
We know his leadership, love what he can do.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
But let's Patriots.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
You heard it here a guy who's played on so
many winning football teams. He's seen it done at a
high level.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Jason Courdy gives you his take.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
But you're talking about Loldon for the future, Like there's
your piece. You're sitting there at three now, Like I
think it's going to be complete chaos if you.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Don't, sir, they're gonna you know, they're gonna take Drake
May and you're wis gonna be a documentary where they're like, listen,
like we work for a Jirab, but we play for Drake.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
That's what they're gonna say. That's what we want.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Evon Dola, whoever you are hell of a quote, and
they're controversial of a.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Quote, and then they're gonna be like, we're gonna get
Devon on because he's gonna have a really positive take
on this. We'd like to hear some positive stuff out
of Devin McCarty. Draft season is in full swing. Our
daily draft shows they're back. Our experts are ready to
spend the next month putting their final evaluations on every
major prospect and then they can change them the following
day because you kind.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Of have to.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Plus the draft needs for all thirty two teams get
to know the next class of NFL stars. It's a
pass to the Draft and it premieres Monday, six pm
Eastern on NFL Network, streaming on NFL Plus, Still the
Cup on GMFB. Hard Knocks expanding to a full division.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
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