October 20, 2025 • 43 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Brian Baldinger recap the biggest matchups from Week 7 of the 2025 season. They kick things off with the Eagles’ dominant offensive showing against the Vikings (0:56) before diving into Falcons - 49ers (7:26), Giants - Broncos (12:13), Commanders - Cowboys (18:24), Colts - Chargers(23:02), Raiders - Chiefs (31:59) and Rams - Jaguars (34:54).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and
my friend Baldy here. Buck's traveling back from England after
the Jags took one on the chin there against against
the Rams. So no Bucky today. He'll be back tomorrow, Weldy.
We got some games to rip through. But where were you?
First of all? Yesterday I was in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yesterday I saw the Eagles offense and the receivers, you
know kind of you know, they still have their aduldrums
where they don't do anything for period of time and
then they just explode.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And then you know, Carson was good at times and
then he was bad at times.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And the same things that have allowed Carson, you know,
to travel to six teams and six different places here
is the same things that you know. He's still mechanically
just completely falls apart at times, and it really affects
the way that he plays, despite some really good plays.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And I have no doubt. Let let's just start with
this game's already on it. I went through its interesting.
We talked last if you remember on here, and uh,
I said, Man, when I when I'm watching all the
top offenses, I feel like I'm seeing some trends here,
which is under you want to get your chunk plays,
it's under center. It's play action, it's early on and downs,
and then take your vertical shots where you can protect
the quarterback and get vertical and then you're in the gun.
(01:16):
Let's get the ball out quick. Let's not sit back
there and hold the ball forever. And it was like
magically the Eagles jumped on board this week.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You still have a pipeline, you know, to show that organization. DJ.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's interesting because I talked to Lane Johnson before the
game down the field and he told me watch that
you know, we're gonna be understted a little bit, just
you know today baldy Uh. I talked to AJ Brown
he said similar things. And then I talked to Kevin Patullo,
who looked like he was that you know that coach
that comes down the field before the game and he's
just looking for a friend, like he's just been.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Bashed for He's exactly what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know, like that guy's just standing all by himself
and nobody's talking to him, and they don't might not
even know who he is.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I end up talking to Patula for it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, I've known a little bit, but it's not
like I, you know, seek him out, but I knew
when he was at the Jets and know his history,
and so we just started talking about about almost that
DJ like how in this league right now, when these
teams are playing these shell defenses and playing these zones, like.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
How you're getting your explosive plays.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And so, I mean, Jalen's not a big guy to
go under center and turns back to the defense and
do that, but he recognized that, you know, they needed
to do that. They got the big seventy nine yard
touchdown to Devonte Smith that opened the game up in
the third quarter off of that, and they got a
couple other you know, big plays from it. So you know,
it's something I think that now will be a part
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of what they do.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
The other thing I was noticing just going through their video,
a man Shipley blocked his tail off in the backfield
he's playing. He played a decent amount in there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
AJ Dillons didn't play.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They deactivated, So Shipley was, you know, the change of
pace back for sake.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Gosh, I didn't I mean going back to his college stuff.
I don't remember him blocking like that. Like he he
was attacking. He was attacking blitzers and he's cutting guys.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, going against floors, you're going to get those,
you know, a lot of blob type situations. Back on
a backer. Sake One had to struggled a little bit
in that department. He always has kind of struggled. So
they got him a couple of times and they got
jailing down. But yeah, no, Shipley came in and did
some good stuff. They're still struggling in the run game. Yeah,
they've had you know, they've got a backup center in there.
I don't you know, they kind of I they asked
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him to do things that he you know, I think
sometimes they asked their center to do what Kelsey could do.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, they've had a superhero there for a decade, so
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They still said, Okay, you know, even if you have
a you know, uh inside eye to I, we can
still reach them with our with our center and Jalen Redmond,
you know, like I wrote it down, DJ, like Sake
One had eighteen runs. Eight of his eighteen runs went
for a yard or less, and over the course of
the season, it's like forty two percent of his runs
or a yard or less. There's just too many negative
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runs right now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They haven't got it all rolling yet, but you know,
I think there that was a good sign that they're
starting to at least get some of the chunk plays
missing that they were missing. Uh in there, and then
I think on the uh, let's say on Philly, then
we get to Minnesota. Your thoughts on BG coming back
potentially here soon?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
They you know, it's interesting because you know, they they
signed Bryce Huff last year for fifty one million dollars
and it just didn't fit and fit and Vic Vanjo's defense,
he's not an outside linebacker. He can't do the things
they asked Jalox Hunt to do yesterday or some of
the things they do they're they're outside guys to do,
and and so like he just you know, they basically deactivated.
(04:33):
He's in San Francisco and he's lights out good right now.
Right so he's been the best pass rusher and they
just don't have a guy right now like Jalox Hunt,
Joshua o'j lowry, like Nolan Smith is still you know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Not ready. They really don't have a.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Guy off the edge like, I kind of feel like
he could give you ten to fifteen plays right now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think he might have to. I mean I think
I think I think o Jallari got hurt, right, So,
I mean they're there and there they played.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They played you know, the Kobe Dean came back from
inch reserve, and so they played Jihad Campbell outside, which
he's actually a really good linebacker. He knows how to
play on the edge. He's just not a polished pass rusher,
you know, and so you know, they didn't really get
much of him in the pass rush, and so you know,
and I think they were going to play that. He
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played NA Kobe and Zach and along with Jihad, but
I think they need a guy and I don't know
who's out there DJ. But you know, BG, he came
back last year from a torn tricept played really good
in a couple of games, So I can see that happening.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, So BG, if you don't know, we're talking about
Brandon Graham. And as we're recording this, there's a lot
of rumblings and talk that he can be coming back
very soon out of retirement to help tran bolster that
edge rush on the on the Minnesota side of things,
just real quick, Baldy. I went through and watched Addison stuff.
I mean the box score was impressive. He had nine
for a buck twenty eight. Man, he is so fluid.
I remember going back and looking at my notes from
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him when he was come out of USC after transfer pit,
and he I thought he was a real polished up
route runner. And I almost think he gets kind of
lost there just because when you got Justin Jefferson, I mean,
it's gonna that's where your eye goes. But I mean
this guy, I think Jordan Adison on could be a
one on a lot of teams in this league.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, he's a great route runner. I mean he turned
he turned everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean just weaving down. I mean even.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Quinnion Mitchell, you know, really struggled with some of those
timing routes where he's he's just giving you that. You know,
what we're seeing from Jackson Smith and Jeg Bad and
what we're seeing from a booker. These guys just got
these subtle head and moves right now and the corners
are all he's going to the post. Next thing you know,
he's catching the ball. You know, on the sideline, he's
really subtle. And look they they they moved the ball.
(06:41):
You look at the numbers. They moved the ball downfield.
They were terrible in the red zone. They had a situation.
I talked to wide receiver coach after the game, like
you had a situation. There are second and one at
the six down fourteen to three. They throw it to
Justin Jefferson. It's right in his hands. Cooper Degen makes
a great play on the ball, and then they kind
of pissed, you know, the next two plays away they
kicked the field goal. They this new center, Blake Brandle,
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he's never played before outside of last week. I used
to have the ball over Carson's hands. They lose thirty yards,
like they just foiled, like some really good opportunities where
they could have really scored touchdowns they kicked field goals instead.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, well they had a big one coming up. The
Chargers smarting after the loss. Will get to in a
minute where the Colts got after them. That's a Thursday
night or so, Minnesota on the road. Thursday at the
Chargers should be a big game. Let's get that Atlanta,
San Francisco. You referenced tough. I mean, just let's start
first of all, on the defense. I think the story
of the game is the defense when you consider ball
you mentioned in the text right, just who they're missing
(07:37):
and how well they played on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So I got to.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Give whatever Robert Salad is doing, like it's nothing but kids.
You know, it's Alfred Collins, It's Mike cal Williams, it's
you know, Upton Stout, it's uh, you know, Marquis Siegel,
it's you know, they.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Got you know, uh Taytum Buffune with with.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Domes in there, Dean Winters, like it's all kids. This
Malik Bustapha, Like I got to some of the hits
he had. I can't imagine John Lynch watching that game
and sitting in his chair, like I got to think
he's just flying out of his chair, like I mean,
reminding him of himself the way he's laying the word
that team. I showed a couple of plays on a
(08:14):
breakdown DJ their pursuit, Like there's not a team in
the league that wouldn't put a couple of.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Plays that I put up and go, this is how
you get to the football.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is what happens when you do v John Robinson
doesn't have eighty one yard runs when the team pursues
like that, that defense. I mean, Bryce off is a
really good player and he's he's and Slo knows how
to use them.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I mean, other than that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They don't really have a pure pass rusher. But they
created a lot Salo really got into his bag and
a lot of overloads. They got to, you know, they
got to Michael Pennix and for some, you know, incompletions,
for some a couple of intentional groundings. Drake London was
a non factor in the game. That was an impressive
display of football played by bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That was funny because I just I looked at the
box score. I didn't see the game, so I watched
the box score. I'm like, oh, it's sixty two yards
rushing for Atlanta. I'm gonna sart there. I'm gonna just
go watch all these runs. Yeah, So I'm watching them
and I've been. I mean, I feel like I've seen
a lot of the San Francisco defense over the last
decade because they've been such a good a good team. Well,
the I had to open up our lands because I'm like,
(09:21):
who is this? Who the heck is this, Julia Davis
was stout a seagull, and Mustafa with incredible fills.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh, like George Elliott.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Was making plays in there. I mean it was like
I didn't know who. I didn't know the numbers and names,
like as I'm going to obviously mikel You know, I
recognize his body type, so I could figure who he was.
But I'm watching this going these guys all shoot their gun,
they all play fast or all physical, and I my
takeaway that I wrote down was so, I mean, I'm
sure that's probably true at famous people, right, some people
are more famous from more valued in history after they
(09:53):
pass away. I'm like Robert Sala, look at the Jets
for crying out loud, what they look like since he
left there.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
If they just left solid with the Jets and they
kept coughing, they didn't just like walk out the door
like that. Why their defense is playing? They're playing really good.
I mean, but Sala, I didn't seen him call games
like that when he was in New York though, Like
I've seen him two weeks in a row called great
games and really throughout the year. But like, it's just
hard to overcome the loss of Nick Bosa and Fred
(10:22):
Warner and they have on that. I mean, you know,
your superstars win games for you. Yeah, like Rice Huff
he forced two fumbles yesterday, Alfred Collins Fellow and one
like those safeties are knocking the living just bringing time
they hit somebody they.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Played down hill. And I'm also, you know, seeing when
you're playing against these big time backs, and I would
say you could put him right in there at the
top of the list. And you look at Bajan and
how he's playing like this is not a play on
your heels, read and react. This is a get on
your toes, see it, trust it, and go and that
I haven't even seen your breakdown yet, but that that
was my same thing. I'm looking at him like there
(10:57):
are there is just a red flurry of bodies called it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I said when they left the field, it was just
blood on the tracks because they were those red shirts yesterday. Yeah,
and all I saw was seven guys on top of
b shon play Houzier or Panix, And all I saw
was just like like literally just drawing blood on every
play man. But don't you just want to watch a
fun game? Just watch that one against a really good offense.
I mean that's a good offense, and they led the league.
(11:22):
They came in averaging one hundred and fifty one yards
a game rushing, like they didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But I just think of these other games you watch
and you see people getting up to linebackers and you
see this everybody's just kind of like trying to see
sort of like hey, man, get your keys, trust your
eyes and go, like you've got to go get these guys.
If you're going to sit there on your heels against
these types of running backs, you're gonna get gashed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All they're looking for. All they need is a little
bit of daylight, yep. And these guys are too good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So I mean sometimes I think it's like, oh man,
that's the scheme and the man, they schemed that up well.
And other times I think they just have installed the
temperament there of like this is our style, is how
we're going to play.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And there's a and DJ like I don't remember what
defensive coording made it was, you know, you know, Rob
Ryan or somebody there was like a step up and
clean it up or back up and give it up.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I think they stepped up and cleaned it up. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, that's a great line. I love that. All Right,
Giants Denver, I think maybe the most entertaining game of
the day. I think you could safely say both quarterbacks
had game winning drives. I mean, Jackson Dart's not going
to get credit for his because the defense kind of
blew it at the end. But then give bow Nick's
credit because he got them down at the end of
the game. Wild game thirty three thirty two, Denver comes
from way behind end up winning that why thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Three points in the fourth quarter DJ And honestly, like
if you watched it, I mean, Jackson Dart is just
an amazing He just has an amazing awareness around him,
like that those guys coming after him are just like
there's just blood in the water, man, those are sharks
coming after him. His ability just to avoid Nick Benito,
Jonathan Cooper, Zach Allen and then make plays.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And you know, like a lot of these guys that
run around they sacked themselves. He doesn't sack himself. You know,
like it wasn't clean all the time, but he just
has a feel for it. That's that's what I'm saying.
Like it felt like an SEC Saturday night game to me,
and you know, it's a shame that they lost because
Skataboo and Jackson Dart man if energized that a whole franchise,
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But I felt like, after watching all of it, it
came down to literally one play DJ. It's a twenty
six to sixteen game with five minutes and change to
go in the fourth quarter, and Sean Payton is burning
his timeouts. He knows the clock is the enemy. He
needs the ball. So first down they run it, don't
get anything. Second down they run it. Sean Payton burns
first two timeouts. It's third down. If you just run
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it on third down and punt, they still need two
scores and it's gonna be under five minutes to go
with no timeouts left, and they threw it and that's
when you know, they blitz zero at him and justin
suranad jumped back and you know, intercepted the Jackson Dart
you know play. They scored a touch and it turned
the whole thing around. I don't want to put it
on the coach, but like the dable's got to be
better than that. He's got a rookie quarterback, he got
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a tough defense. I just thought that what moment the
only mistake Jackson Dart really made all day and it
really cost him.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, there's some line smart enough to remember it ball
that you and to Douke, discretion is a greater form
of valor. I don't know, I can't remember how it goes,
but something along those something along those lines. Yeah. Yeah,
I went through and I watched all darts pass attempts
in this game. Because he was fifteen for thirty three
so it wasn't like a super efficient but guys, two
hundred and eighty three yards, three touchdowns and a pick.
So I'm like, there's got to be some explosives baked
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in here, Like what did this look like? So I
go in there and I know I know this. I
know this pass rush, you know, I see I know
this past rush well from Denver. So I'm like, man,
this will be interesting to see. But you man, he's
always does just continually. By time he's scrambling, they're moving
the pocket around. They didn't have an answer for the
tight end. They leak him out a couple of times
you get to kind of the crazy combo catch on
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the tip tipball touchdown. But they did a nice job.
And to me, I wrote down in my notes, I
like for a young guy to play with urgency without
chaos like he was playing fas, but yet he was
able to then kind of slow things down. It wasn't
like he was scrammling throwing off his back foot. He
was just getting away from the trouble. And once he
got away from the trouble, he kind of slowed down
and got his eyes where they needed to be and
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he made.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Just to that safe, clean spot where he's got a
good vision and he sees the whole field.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The guy sees the field really good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'd love to see, you know, like a little helmet
cam with him, just to see how he's scanning the field,
because if there's an open guy and he steps up
and clears the soup like he's going to make it completion,
he's gonna he's gonna find the open.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Guy, you know who he reminded me of. And this
is like because I know coming out and he's like
he's so, he's rugged and he's tough. He ran the
ball out of Old Miss and so people were saying
like he's kind of a smaller version of Josh Allen
because you know, he can do some of those type
of things. Yeah, all the I was watching him just
with that that one element of his game. That's Mahomes
ask a little bit where he's got a feel and
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he can be fast, but then slow down and then
survey everything. Mahomes got unbelievable vision for all of his
tools that he has, his ability to be on the
move and see the entire field. So I'd be I know, Giants,
you know, look, the record is what it is. But
if I woke up this morning and I was a
Giants fan, like, I'm pretty pumped that I think you're
going to Man, I mean, that's not an easy place
(16:15):
to play.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's a horrible It's I've never played up there seven
times in my career.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I never won a game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Like, I mean, everybody's huffing and puffing up there, Like
if you're not from there, and you Jackson dart Man
him in Statabu, the two of them, man, they're they're amazing,
amazing players.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, on the Denver side of things, Hey, give Boonex's credit.
They get the ball left with thirty three seconds left
at their own twenty two, needing a field goal, and
it took them all of two plays to get in
field goal range. I mean, hey, I mean it was
that that. I don't even know if that ball was
intended for where it landed on the deep ball because
that that first play was like a deep sit route.
But he's I looked like he was trying to hit
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the deep cross and it kind of missed him a
little bit. And then you just kind of you have,
you know, the guy out there to catch it. Either
way you get that big completion and then is there
any is there any better throat to have in your
back pocket than when you're in this type of situation
when you can work the sideline with Cortland Sutton and
just go I can just throw a back shoulder to him.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's I mean there's not every receiver can run back
shoulder phage like that. You know, just have that length
of the footwork, legs go dead, you know, put your
put your hands on the ball. It's you know, and
they look give Demver credit, but that I felt like,
you know, after the Giants went down and scored like
the way they did that was that was a hard one.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
If you're a Giant fan, you just you just gut
punched today.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, Uh, Drew put in on a little chat here
that there was video that came out showing Burns upset
about them dropping eight in that situation. I mean, I
don't know. I've seen it work both ways. I've seen
teams try and heat up a quarterback and then give
up a run after catch explosive. I've seen teams try
and play coverage and drop eight and get beat.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So yeah, this this was like very similar though.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
DJ they you know, they lost to Dallas, and you
know Dallas did the same thing. They hit Ferguson for
a eighteen yard throw over the middle. They didn't really
take anything away. Dak was a looking for anybody and
I just remember that play, like and then they kicked
the you know, they got a guy that kicks sixty
yard field goals and so you know, they let them
get to the fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Like this is twice they.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Had games one against good teams and you know, let
it slip away.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's tough loss for them, But again I'm hopeful
and optimistic if you're a Giants fan, just based off
where the quarterback is right now, Washington Dallas. You mentioned
the Dallas team there, Baldy. They doubled up Washington. Jade
Daniels gets hurt forty four to twenty two. Dallas wins,
and it was kind of a was a Dak Prescott show.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I just play this game when I watched Dak, and
I actually did it with Flacco the other night. I'm
literally just going one two three, ball out, one two three.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
There is a rhythm. I mean, I don't care if
it's a three step or five step drop.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
He's hitching and he's throwing and however they're obviously it
helps that you have pickings and you have CD back,
but it doesn't matter if it's Jake Ferguson or who
he's thrown to right now the ball. I have never
seen Dak play this good. Ever, I don't care if
he had a Mari Cooper whoever. He's playing with like
his confidence level right now to see the field, to
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know where his guys are when he has to throw
a jump ball to pickings, like he doesn't miss right now.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But I just thought, dude, I.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Just think in watching him because this is the third
time now DJ, they've put up forty plus, so this
isn't a fluke. This is what they can do. And
they got they got Booker back in the offensive line.
He got their guys all up front, so they ran
the ball really good. With Javonte, he looks like he
did his rookie year or even going back to North Carolina.
But so he's given him some real pop. But Dak
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has a rhythm to this offense. It is as good
a timing rhythm offense as ers in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I think one of the things that impressed me the
most going through his stuff in this game was I
always think about somethings with defenses almost like whack them all,
where you kind of they're trying to make late movement
and trying to they play kid of invert to cover
two on one of them, and it's just they're trying
to catch you with a late movement. And it's like
Dak is he'd be on leave a whackamole player because
it's like he just see that boom boom boom boom boom,
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and then the next thing you know, ceedee lambs throwing
his hand up and you're splitting them and gashing him
like he's he looks very comfortable and poised, and none
of that late movement stuff's bother him at all. The
voids he's finding them.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To your point though, DJ the throw to the CD
for the big touchdown that was you know, play action
under center. You know, Max protected, Max it up and
really literally he could have thrown to Pickens or CD
like they were.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Both down the field. But I mean, you know they
they run into each other.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But you know, honestly, like I've been watching this Washington defense,
like people are just going after Lattimore like left and right,
like he just is not the same guy. Like I
don't know what they're gonna do, but the the accumulation
of injuries over the year, he's not anywhere near the
type of guy that would just challenge you know, big
ex receivers at the line of scrimmage and they couldn't
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get off. It's they're running by him right now.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I know coming into the Charger game that they had
given up the most explosive pass plays because I was,
you know, getting ready prepping for that game. I got it,
especially after this when I got to their their fault
holding firm to that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It looks at he's looking at takeaways and explosives and
if you're taking it away and you're limiting the explosives,
like you have a pretty good chance of winning these
games on Sunday, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Jade and Daniels gets hurt when it's hamstring, so we'll
see how long that's going to be. This feels like
and this happens in sports. It's not just the NFL.
It happens in all types of sports. I think of uh,
you know us C Lincoln Riley's first year there. They
won all those games, but it was almost like, you know, guys,
this is not the schedule kind of fell our way.
We kind of got some breaks, like we're ahead, this
is ahead of schedule, not necessarily indicative of where we are.
(21:35):
I think last year we're kind of looking back at Washington,
go man. Everything kind of lined up for them. Well,
it all kind of worked. You got the the squeezed
the last little juice out of some veterans, and it
just kind of it popped form. And now I feel
like it's kind of come. It's come, not say crashing down,
but like this is probably more the the arc that
I thought they were on when Kingsbury got there, uh
you know, dan Quinn got there, Jane Daniels all coming
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in there together. I thought this is probably three. You
have the year three, you'll see this tank take off.
Sometimes it goes out of order though chronologically.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, a couple of things. One I remember his first
game last year, Jade Daniels like he ran, he played
played Tampa and Todd Bowles split some every play and
he ran it sixteen times, a lot of them just
escaping the rush, and I thought, this guy's not going
to survive. Now they kept running him, and they're still
running him, and now he's starting to like these injuries
are coming because he's you know, he's not a big guy,
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he's frail, he's tough as gonna go.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, he's very.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Narrow, and then you know, you take mclaar and you
take Debo, you take the top three receivers out, like
you're just going to be limited with any kind of
attacking that poor secondary of the Cowboys, and they didn't
have that ability. So it's you know, but some of
what you're saying is is definitely true. I'd like to
see him a little bit more at full strength. But
they did not get the running game going against Dallas,
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and that had been their achilles heel all season long.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, no doubt. Let's take quick pause, we'll come back,
We'll get to three more games here really exciting weekend
of football. Some crazy games, one of them not exciting.
We'll get to that one, all right, Baldi. The game.
I was at Man I studying this game, getting ready.
Sometimes you look at records and you're like, okay, is
this kind of a fake five and one? You know,
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like who have they played? What have they done? And
then I studied that the Colts all week getting ready
for the game, like no, no, no, this this offense
is very very good. And defensively I thought there was
some things maybe you could attack, especially because the secondary
injuries that they had. But offensively, this is a this
is a difficult team. I don't know if you follow him, Baldi,
but Dan Casey is you know a guy that all
these coaches follow that does a great job of posting
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plays and he's you got to look at his He
did a full ten play breakdown. It just and it's
just the place. And then he gives a description of
what you play. Call is of ten plays for Shane
Stike and you can see the stuff he's doing is
in like he is next level with the stuff he's
doing offensively right now, a lot of insert stuff where
you've got tight end you've got two tight ends where
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you've got the outside tight end releasing inside the tight
end next to him, and then it just looks like
you're going there to block somebody. Then he's gone, and
then you get a lot of just hold and release
stuff from guys on the perimeter and they're getting lost
and they're getting guys wide open. And then hey, you
get a third and ten, you want to take a
shot down the field. It's a double chip with like
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a deep deep curl and a deep deep corner, but
understanding how to marry what you need protection wise to
get the ball vertically, and then not to mention all
the just the different ways they're running, like you know,
the counter stuff and same side poles and everything else
they're doing in the run game like it he was
as we talked about players getting in a rhythm, Shane
Stikeen got in a rhythm in that game. It was
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it was surgery what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, it's pretty interesting, you know because it started last year.
But you know, they they drafted Bortolini and they drafted
gun Salvi's you know, middle round guys that are starters,
and they let Will Fryes and Ryan Kelly go and
they rebuilt that offense line. Those kids are great players,
like tough kids. So that's up front. How many different
places did Tyler Warren line up?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, he's all over the place. He's everywhere, you know,
and so they ran duo with him at fullback and
he just cleans it up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So so I've been watching this now because you know,
people want to like even Daniel Jones is that he's
being asked after the game, like you know, nobody expected
this and like, well, you know, you didn't do your work.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But you know, regardless, he's not making any mistakes DJ No,
he used to the ball is going where's like he's
seeing the field and that. But he's even when he
would see the field before he'd missed a throw, like
he wasn't an accurate guy, Like he's stick accurate right
now with the ball and his eyes just you know,
he trusts his eyes. But you know what Steichen is
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doing with these tight ends, like running him through the
line where the guys are getting lost and they're getting
deep behind him, and and like that's that's been a
stateboard I feel like every week and honestly, I'm they
able to beat in the rams. If they didn't have
a knucklehead play, you know by the receiver, they could
easily be under that. Yeah, they want to play if
if you want to play that style, they can line
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up and do that. Because Jonathan Taylor's gonna he's gonna
give you a bunch like he's he's on his game.
He looks really awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He looks aw and.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Josh Downs has his role like everybody's got a defined
role on that team.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Pierce made some plays down the field in this game.
Downs was out and then I mean they're big, they're physical,
and Jonathan Taylor has adds the speed element to it.
It's just it is a very well coached offensive team.
The offensive line is very physical. It was It was
quite impressive watching them in person. And the other thing
I would say is if you did, if you if
you did a breakdown Baldie and that if you could
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insert you think about like the halo rule for a
punt returner, right yeah, if you did. And I think
this goes to why Daniel Jones has been so accurate.
You go to him when he's getting ready to release
the ball and you just put a halo circle. Nobody there.
I mean he's started like clean pocket. Yeah, clean pocket
after clean pocket after clean pocket.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well they they you know, protection first, so all the
chipping and everything on the outside like that, that's going
to be a big part. They did the same thing
to the rams to be able to make sure that
Daniel Jones going to be clean. So I agree with that.
I think that uh. I always said this about Quentin
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Nelson and it's really implies this year. Like there was
a time when Zeke was running in Dallas and Zach
Martin was the right guard, and he used to say
that no matter where the play starts, it always ends
up Like Zach Martin, I feel like right now, like
no matter where the run starts, it finishes behind when
in the way that he's playing right now because he
you know, when he first came into this leg, he
was just you know, he was just drilling people into
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the dirt. He doesn't really play that style where he's
just trying to you know, get pancake box. But he's
so good right now. Man, he's his endurances. He's running
every play. The only pool to the right with him
or to the left with him. He's so good in space.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, I remember I don't know why I was thinking
of this. We had an old scout he used to say, uh,
you know, talking about Corner, and he's like, look, I'm
not saying it's always his fault, but he's always at
the scene of the crime, and he's got all over Yeah,
Like I'm not saying I'm not saying that. Quentin's yeah,
reason why all these things are happening, But he always
seems to be in the picture at the scene of
the crime when when things are going down.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But he's let me ask you this because I talked
to lou Anarumo a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I mean,
first of all, he was bragging about the forest Buckner
like he had had never had a three technique like that,
and it's amazing. I don't know how many years Buck's
been going on, probably almost ten years almost, like he's
still got so much juice.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
But they were really.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're really having trouble with some run fits, you know,
and how they were doing things to really fix the
run game compared to what they were doing a year ago,
the year before that. And then I thought they had
some issues at Corner. I was curious just how because
I haven't seen the defense.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, they're there. The charge was I mean Herbert threw
for four undred yards. I mean they moved the ball
up and down the field. They had you know, Grover
Stewart pops the ball up in the ear to himself
and picks it off the end one drive. Herbert tried
to force the ball in the end zone. For picking
the end zone. So I mean that they that was.
It should have been a It should have been a
high thirties forty game for the chart offense. Ronde Gatzon
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I'll get to in a minute, had a huge game.
He's got two really good games back to back.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I want to finish.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yes, there were two really good rookie tight ends. But
to Forest Buckner, nine pressures, two sacks, and when you
go through and watch it ball that this is my
one recommendation. I like to give you one Baldy breakdown
wreck for the week that I'd love to see you do.
Just look at the toolkit of the Forest Buckner in
those nine pressures. Because you watch some guys like I
remember we had Trevor Price when I you know he
used to be he was with him in Baltimore. He
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was unbelievable. It was swim swim, swim, swim, swim skinny
like the Forest Buckner. You watch it. So he wins
on a twist, he wins on a push poll, he
wins on an inside spin, which you don't see from
interior d Lineman. Ever, he wins with a long arm.
You'll see him. He'll he'll get doubled. He'll stack two
moves together and get home like he's showing you the
whole toolkit of in his year ten for him, this
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is ten years in the NFL, and he was going
I was friendly fire. He's going up against his you know,
another former duck back there and Herbert, and you know
when you know you're a big dude when you swallow
up justin Herbert when you get back there, which he
did a couple of times. But the Forest Buckner playing
at a very high level. Those guys are good. Those
two DT's him and Grover Stewart against the run are
really really good good. They can they can shut.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It down a lot. I saw a lot he got home.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He got home. I mean they got to I mean
I thought, overall, considering how many times they threw it
that the you know, the Chargers collection of backup tackles there.
You know, they hung in there as good as they
could and they threw the ball pretty well. But inside
that to me is the forest buckner. If you're getting
ready to play them like you circle him defensively, and
then the secondary they're missing some guys. Yeah, and so
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there was there was There was a lot of opportunities
down the field, but they hey, do you do what
you got to do. You get turnovers and they were
able to do that yeah too, So that was that
was big there, But real quick on Gadson seven for
a Bucks sixty four. He just keeps getting better and better.
In Conklin's not even I mean I think he's that's
clearly he's he's beat him out. But you look at this,
you know, the concern for me on the Charger side
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of things. Defensively, it's not like the Calvary's coming. They
got Khalil Mack back in this game. You know, he
a ton, but they'll get more of him and he'll
get healthier that that'll help them going forward. They were
missing the safety in this ball game, so you'll get
low he's gone, and I wonder, you know, a loowie
in terms of the you know, communication side of things.
That might be something they miss a little bit, but
have Elijah Molden out, he'll he'll be back. So defensively,
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I don't know, there's a ton more upside. They got
to figure some things out communication wise in the back end.
Offensively there, I would be optimistic just because Joe Walt's
really close. I think there's a good chance he plays
Thursday night. That'll make a big difference for him. Then
you look at eventually down the line, you get hamped
and back, you know, the running by the Rooi running back,
who's playing great, And then you start looking at it
going Okay, Maconkey's coming around, Keenan's playing well, Quentin Johnson
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was back this week, and now all of a sudden
you got this tight end and Gatston who's who's making
some plays. You could see by the end of the
year they could be really, really dynamic as the offensive
line work. In fact, yeah, they got to survive and
that's why this Thursday night game will be big for
them against Minnesota coming in there. All right, Baldi, I
didn't I think I showed you this text beforehand, and
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I think I would have time this morning to get
to the Vegas case game. To offer anything to what
you've done on this I have.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It was so bad, so one sided. I figured that's
not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, no it wouldn't. It's not a
high PERSI I still.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The Raiders last week, and I knew how the only
team that could have beaten last week DJ was Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's the only team that could have beaten.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It took me four minutes in forty four seconds to
watch every offensive snap from Vegas in this game. I
don't remember ever doing that now. I mean I rewound
a couple of plays a couple times. But if I
mean I was it was I was joking with you.
I mean they could if you were going to do
the theme of the Raiders offense, it'd be run, run sack.
I mean that was. That was That was a painful watch.
How about some numbers? Did this thing? Three first downs
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over seven on third down ended up being thirty plays
when you count for penalties, thirty plays with ninety five
total yards. And I mean, I'm just I'm right down penalties,
negating first downs, drop sacks, throwing underneath the sticks on
like third and seven, third and eight, run run sack,
you're trying to run quick screen after quick screen against
maybe one of the best tackling secondaries in the NFL.
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I mean, it's just catching, catching tackle.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Tr mcduffey and Jayats.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm like, those guys don't miss tackles. So it was
faulty from a game plan standpoint, faulty from an execution standpoint.
But I mean, hey, give Kansas City credit. That Kansas
City had thirty first downs on offense and Vegas ran
thirty plays. I don't know that's ever been done before.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Well, I mean, did you ever see Rice back.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Obviously he made a difference already, but we already knew
as soon as Amy Worthy came back in that offense,
this whole thing just changed.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
And now you've got Braden Smith working into the offense.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And you know, people don't want to hear that Mahomes
and Kansas City are back at four to three, but
they're back all the way back, like they're just gonna
be tough to be because they're gonna they're gonna score thirty,
Like any of the dollgrooms they had last year are gone.
Like this is a this is this offense, and you
give Andy Tinkering time at night with Mahomes, like nobody's
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better drawing up new play week in week out, and
you know, but the like I'm curious, like if I
was there in this one because I saw it last week.
Like you when your offense is that bad the way
the Jets are that bad, you know you can't score.
It's just a matter of time before your defense just
starts walking on the field and off the field. I
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don't care if you're Max Crosby who you are, Like,
you just know you're not scoring points. Like it just
wears everybody down.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, And I think you also get to the point
where you're like, we have to create a turnover. We
have to do something outside of our our normal routine here.
We're not gonna win, like we got to we gotta
get points, we got to get possessions, all that stuff.
So we also have Omar Norman a lot towards ACL
so he's out for the year. That's unfortunate. He's gone
to hit some injuries. I believe in Tennessee they're kind
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of going back into his history a little bit. But
that's a tough one. Let's get to the last game here.
I was in there for this one in the studio.
Bucky was at the game. I don't know. I don't
think Bucky's going to miss being here to discuss it.
The Rams thirty five to seven over there in London
over Jacksonville. Just an anemic, anemic performance from the Jags
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and the Rams. Matthew Stafford, I mean, if he's not
the MVP, he's in the top three right now. I
mean he's putting together a monster season for the Rams.
Five touchdowns in this game.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Well, I mean that's without Puka, So you know, DeVante
gets the action and he you know, I mean you're
on the one yard line and DeVante's out there like
he's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
He's just gonna win.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Like there's you can't really bracket him, you can't really
double him. He's gonna win with his releases and Stafford
just I talked to DeVante about this a couple of
weeks ago, like how did you build a timing with Stafford?
And he didn't even practice in preseason, like he wasn't
out there, and uh, he said, you know, we're just veterans.
We just talked through this all this stuff, like we
know exactly what we want to do. We don't actually
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have to go through it all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But they have.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Amazing chemistry, you know, and you get Puka back with
that defense in that defensive front right now. They destroyed
Jacksonville in that game.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
So to give you an idea of the season that
Stafford's on pace for, He's on pace for forty five
hundred and thirty two yards, forty one touchdowns, five picks.
That's the that's the pace that he's on right now.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So last year Baker threw for over forty touchdowns and
had over forty five hundred yards and he was the
tenth quarterback in NFL history to ever do that. So
you Stafford is right in that top ten category on
this page. And I don't know if it's going to
change the way that he's thrown it right now. He's
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he's got two guys that he and in just the
design of offense and the way it is right now.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Like I can see him putting finishing at that pace.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
The one positive on the Jacksonville standpoint, Travis Hunter has
one hundred yard game, gets his first touchdown, and I
lobbied for it in the pregame of this thing. But
you know, I think they're viewing him as a gadget guy,
you know, And so it's just been quick screens and
hetches and tunnel screens, and I'm like, this guy's more
than that. Now. This guy, when I watched him at Colorado,
(37:06):
reminded me of Garrett Wilson or Ohio State. Like, this
guy understands how to get out of in and out
of breaks. This guy can route guys up, and this
guy can play above the rim and win fifty to
fifty balls down the field. Like I think you're short
changing him to make him just your reverse guy and
you you know, and your quick screen guy. So of
course he gets touched on a deep seven round, a
deep corner out in this game, and he gets interfered on,
still powers through it and gets into the end zone.
(37:28):
He catches a they throw it like I assume it
was intended a back shoulder steamball to him, which he
adjusts to him, makes a play, he throttles down in
zone because he shows the feel and instincts and awareness
to do that. And they still tried to mix in
a couple quick quick hitters to him, which went nowhere.
But that's what I've been lobbying for. Look, if you're
going to make the commitment to say he's an offensive player,
which I know and was told in the draft process
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he prefers he wants to do both, but given his choice,
he prefers to play offense. So if you're going to
major in offense and minor in defense, well, if you're
going to major in offense and I need you to
be a receiver, let's not make you a gadget. I
make you a dang receiver. And that I feel like
when they've done that this year and they've let him
get down the field, that's when he made the plays.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And and really, Brian Thomas is having a misery.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
We can't catch.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't know what happened, Like is his confidence just
shot because he put up ten touchdowns? But he was
the guy last year and now he's had one drop
after another all year long.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I think he had over twelve hundred yards and ten
touchdowns last year. Yeah, and I'm watching him and I'm like,
he has zero confidence. And I feel bad for I mean,
because Trevor's gonna get nicked because of you know he
has He's got a little bit of the disease of
his misses or bad misses, like you know, you know,
you know it's a guy in accurate MISSI yeah, just
it just takes off and sales it. You know who
(38:42):
it reminds me of just from it. When Lamar Jackson
was coming out, it was hard to get over like
the misses because you're like, man, I see these amazing plays,
but man, some of the misses are so bad.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Would you think it's mechanics? Like is his feet set?
Is he finally threw.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Like balls taken off on him? I just don't think.
I think, honestly more than in a mechanical issue because
I didn't see and jumped out to me. From that standpoint,
I think it's just a guy's confidence is not is
nowhere to be found, okay, and there's no conviction. You
always talk about like you want to throw with conviction,
trust it and rip it. And I just kind of
unsure what he's doing. And then the other part of
it is there's freaking four or five drops every game,
(39:15):
and you add those into the mix, not only do
your stats improve, I think his confidence comes along with that.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
No question, because they could have won a couple of
games this year if they if they just caught the ball.
I know, Buck, he's talked about it a bunch, you know,
but it's uh, he he doesn't have the best group around,
but what he does, miss though.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I had ten foot sale jobs, you know. And you're like,
what the heck happened here? Now it was rainy. It
looked it was rainy there and a little wet, so
maybe that's maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
But I mean they've played that stuff before.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah they got I mean, and they were one of
those teams. It was four and two coming into that game,
I believe. And you're like, what do you think about him?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm just curious. I just had anything to do with
the game, or maybe it did.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But the way the rams said, you know what, We're
just we're just gonna leave on We'll get there on Saturday,
we'll walk through, give the guys off and moves, go
play the game like you like you're going down to
San like you're going to San Francisco to play, you know,
like they took that approach. It's kind of and the
players were like, we just trust, you know, we just
trusted the science is what it's good. And evidently they
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started so fast in the game that you know, maybe
that changes the approach of a lot of teams going
over there.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, they stayed in Baltimore, so my same game. So
coming from the West coast, they got on that time zone,
just stayed on that time zone for the week, because
that's a long haul from the West Coast to get
over there. When I when to I.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Think it was Anthony Trained Camden Yards.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
They were at Camden Yards. Yeah, I saw some video
of Stafford out there with a glove throwing the baseball
around a little bit. But uh, the Chargers when this
is going back to Anthony Lynn years. I believe when
I was this was like eighteen maybe. Uh, they played
the Titans over there, and they had played Cleveland the
week before, so they had stayed in Cleveland, right, and
just stayed on that East Coast time and then went
(40:57):
from Cleveland over to London and beat Thet's over there.
So everybody has different theories on it. But you know,
you know who's you know who's crushed by this whole development.
It's money by our buddy. So Matt Muney Smith, who's
played by play with the Chargers, he's like, oh no, man,
He's like, you know, he likes getting over these international cities.
He likes exploring he likes being able.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
To take a sight see.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, he doesn't like this idea of just jetting in
and jet now. He feels like he's going to miss
out on his travel experience.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, well that's that's what the off season is for.
I've done all those.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, you're all over that, Hey, Baldy, this was fun, man,
damn through it, miss miss Buckey. But we'll have him
back tomorrow. A couple of Monday nighters. By the way,
uh as as a fan, put your fan hat on.
Do you like the double Monday nighters?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Well, I mean this last week when they were playing
like they staggered the games, so I had one game
on one screen and the other game on the other screen.
It was actually, you know, it was actually kind of
fun to sit there and watch both games at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Like they're staggering tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
So one fin this is one starts like that's a
little late when we start as early as we're starting,
So I don't think I'm gonna finish.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, the second game, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I just think one game is enough.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I'm a one game guy. Man. I I don't I
love I love football. It's hard to say it's too much.
But it's like just like having the standalone one game.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Man. Yeah, I know, but you got two good games tonight,
so yeah, we'll see like if one, you know, if
one's no good, maybe you'll stay up and watch the
second one.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, we got that plus a big game seven in
baseball too, keep an eye on. Yeah, all right, Baldy
to be the best brother. I appreciate you, man, we'll
see all right there he goes. Appreciate Baldi coming on
each and every Monday here, uh, breaking these games down.
We'll get back tomorrow. I got bad news for everybody.
It looks like rtt Lewis had another good week in
the rookie draft unfortunately, so we'll hear about that all
(42:45):
tomorrow when he joins the show, and we have our
rookie draft for this upcoming week as well. And his
swishers had to keep winning, man, So he's feeling good
about life. Meanwhile, Buck's Carolina, it's our heels. No point now, Well,
we'll welcome those guys back tomorrow. Appreciate you guys. See
you next time I move the sticks.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Mhmm
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and
my friend Baldy here. Buck's traveling back from England after
the Jags took one on the chin there against against
the Rams. So no Bucky today. He'll be back tomorrow, Weldy.
We got some games to rip through. But where were you?
First of all? Yesterday I was in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yesterday I saw the Eagles offense and the receivers, you
know kind of you know, they still have their aduldrums
where they don't do anything for period of time and
then they just explode.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And then you know, Carson was good at times and
then he was bad at times.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And the same things that have allowed Carson, you know,
to travel to six teams and six different places here
is the same things that you know. He's still mechanically
just completely falls apart at times, and it really affects
the way that he plays, despite some really good plays.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And I have no doubt. Let let's just start with
this game's already on it. I went through its interesting.
We talked last if you remember on here, and uh,
I said, Man, when I when I'm watching all the
top offenses, I feel like I'm seeing some trends here,
which is under you want to get your chunk plays,
it's under center. It's play action, it's early on and downs,
and then take your vertical shots where you can protect
the quarterback and get vertical and then you're in the gun.
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Let's get the ball out quick. Let's not sit back
there and hold the ball forever. And it was like
magically the Eagles jumped on board this week.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You still have a pipeline, you know, to show that organization. DJ.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's interesting because I talked to Lane Johnson before the
game down the field and he told me watch that
you know, we're gonna be understted a little bit, just
you know today baldy Uh. I talked to AJ Brown
he said similar things. And then I talked to Kevin Patullo,
who looked like he was that you know that coach
that comes down the field before the game and he's
just looking for a friend, like he's just been.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Bashed for He's exactly what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know, like that guy's just standing all by himself
and nobody's talking to him, and they don't might not
even know who he is.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I end up talking to Patula for it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, I've known a little bit, but it's not
like I, you know, seek him out, but I knew
when he was at the Jets and know his history,
and so we just started talking about about almost that
DJ like how in this league right now, when these
teams are playing these shell defenses and playing these zones, like.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
How you're getting your explosive plays.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And so, I mean, Jalen's not a big guy to
go under center and turns back to the defense and
do that, but he recognized that, you know, they needed
to do that. They got the big seventy nine yard
touchdown to Devonte Smith that opened the game up in
the third quarter off of that, and they got a
couple other you know, big plays from it. So you know,
it's something I think that now will be a part
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of what they do.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
The other thing I was noticing just going through their video,
a man Shipley blocked his tail off in the backfield
he's playing. He played a decent amount in there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
AJ Dillons didn't play.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They deactivated, So Shipley was, you know, the change of
pace back for sake.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Gosh, I didn't I mean going back to his college stuff.
I don't remember him blocking like that. Like he he
was attacking. He was attacking blitzers and he's cutting guys.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, going against floors, you're going to get those,
you know, a lot of blob type situations. Back on
a backer. Sake One had to struggled a little bit
in that department. He always has kind of struggled. So
they got him a couple of times and they got
jailing down. But yeah, no, Shipley came in and did
some good stuff. They're still struggling in the run game. Yeah,
they've had you know, they've got a backup center in there.
I don't you know, they kind of I they asked
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him to do things that he you know, I think
sometimes they asked their center to do what Kelsey could do.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, they've had a superhero there for a decade, so
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They still said, Okay, you know, even if you have
a you know, uh inside eye to I, we can
still reach them with our with our center and Jalen Redmond,
you know, like I wrote it down, DJ, like Sake
One had eighteen runs. Eight of his eighteen runs went
for a yard or less, and over the course of
the season, it's like forty two percent of his runs
or a yard or less. There's just too many negative
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runs right now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They haven't got it all rolling yet, but you know,
I think there that was a good sign that they're
starting to at least get some of the chunk plays
missing that they were missing. Uh in there, and then
I think on the uh, let's say on Philly, then
we get to Minnesota. Your thoughts on BG coming back
potentially here soon?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
They you know, it's interesting because you know, they they
signed Bryce Huff last year for fifty one million dollars
and it just didn't fit and fit and Vic Vanjo's defense,
he's not an outside linebacker. He can't do the things
they asked Jalox Hunt to do yesterday or some of
the things they do they're they're outside guys to do,
and and so like he just you know, they basically deactivated.
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He's in San Francisco and he's lights out good right now.
Right so he's been the best pass rusher and they
just don't have a guy right now like Jalox Hunt,
Joshua o'j lowry, like Nolan Smith is still you know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Not ready. They really don't have a.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Guy off the edge like, I kind of feel like
he could give you ten to fifteen plays right now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think he might have to. I mean I think
I think I think o Jallari got hurt, right, So,
I mean they're there and there they played.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They played you know, the Kobe Dean came back from
inch reserve, and so they played Jihad Campbell outside, which
he's actually a really good linebacker. He knows how to
play on the edge. He's just not a polished pass rusher,
you know, and so you know, they didn't really get
much of him in the pass rush, and so you know,
and I think they were going to play that. He
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played NA Kobe and Zach and along with Jihad, but
I think they need a guy and I don't know
who's out there DJ. But you know, BG, he came
back last year from a torn tricept played really good
in a couple of games, So I can see that happening.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, So BG, if you don't know, we're talking about
Brandon Graham. And as we're recording this, there's a lot
of rumblings and talk that he can be coming back
very soon out of retirement to help tran bolster that
edge rush on the on the Minnesota side of things,
just real quick, Baldy. I went through and watched Addison stuff.
I mean the box score was impressive. He had nine
for a buck twenty eight. Man, he is so fluid.
I remember going back and looking at my notes from
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him when he was come out of USC after transfer pit,
and he I thought he was a real polished up
route runner. And I almost think he gets kind of
lost there just because when you got Justin Jefferson, I mean,
it's gonna that's where your eye goes. But I mean
this guy, I think Jordan Adison on could be a
one on a lot of teams in this league.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, he's a great route runner. I mean he turned
he turned everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean just weaving down. I mean even.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Quinnion Mitchell, you know, really struggled with some of those
timing routes where he's he's just giving you that. You know,
what we're seeing from Jackson Smith and Jeg Bad and
what we're seeing from a booker. These guys just got
these subtle head and moves right now and the corners
are all he's going to the post. Next thing you know,
he's catching the ball. You know, on the sideline, he's
really subtle. And look they they they moved the ball.
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You look at the numbers. They moved the ball downfield.
They were terrible in the red zone. They had a situation.
I talked to wide receiver coach after the game, like
you had a situation. There are second and one at
the six down fourteen to three. They throw it to
Justin Jefferson. It's right in his hands. Cooper Degen makes
a great play on the ball, and then they kind
of pissed, you know, the next two plays away they
kicked the field goal. They this new center, Blake Brandle,
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he's never played before outside of last week. I used
to have the ball over Carson's hands. They lose thirty yards,
like they just foiled, like some really good opportunities where
they could have really scored touchdowns they kicked field goals instead.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, well they had a big one coming up. The
Chargers smarting after the loss. Will get to in a
minute where the Colts got after them. That's a Thursday
night or so, Minnesota on the road. Thursday at the
Chargers should be a big game. Let's get that Atlanta,
San Francisco. You referenced tough. I mean, just let's start
first of all, on the defense. I think the story
of the game is the defense when you consider ball
you mentioned in the text right, just who they're missing
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and how well they played on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So I got to.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Give whatever Robert Salad is doing, like it's nothing but kids.
You know, it's Alfred Collins, It's Mike cal Williams, it's
you know, Upton Stout, it's uh, you know, Marquis Siegel,
it's you know, they.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Got you know, uh Taytum Buffune with with.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Domes in there, Dean Winters, like it's all kids. This
Malik Bustapha, Like I got to some of the hits
he had. I can't imagine John Lynch watching that game
and sitting in his chair, like I got to think
he's just flying out of his chair, like I mean,
reminding him of himself the way he's laying the word
that team. I showed a couple of plays on a
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breakdown DJ their pursuit, Like there's not a team in
the league that wouldn't put a couple of.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Plays that I put up and go, this is how
you get to the football.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is what happens when you do v John Robinson
doesn't have eighty one yard runs when the team pursues
like that, that defense. I mean, Bryce off is a
really good player and he's he's and Slo knows how
to use them.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I mean, other than that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They don't really have a pure pass rusher. But they
created a lot Salo really got into his bag and
a lot of overloads. They got to, you know, they
got to Michael Pennix and for some, you know, incompletions,
for some a couple of intentional groundings. Drake London was
a non factor in the game. That was an impressive
display of football played by bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That was funny because I just I looked at the
box score. I didn't see the game, so I watched
the box score. I'm like, oh, it's sixty two yards
rushing for Atlanta. I'm gonna sart there. I'm gonna just
go watch all these runs. Yeah, So I'm watching them
and I've been. I mean, I feel like I've seen
a lot of the San Francisco defense over the last
decade because they've been such a good a good team. Well,
the I had to open up our lands because I'm like,
(09:21):
who is this? Who the heck is this, Julia Davis
was stout a seagull, and Mustafa with incredible fills.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh, like George Elliott.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Was making plays in there. I mean it was like
I didn't know who. I didn't know the numbers and names,
like as I'm going to obviously mikel You know, I
recognize his body type, so I could figure who he was.
But I'm watching this going these guys all shoot their gun,
they all play fast or all physical, and I my
takeaway that I wrote down was so, I mean, I'm
sure that's probably true at famous people, right, some people
are more famous from more valued in history after they
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pass away. I'm like Robert Sala, look at the Jets
for crying out loud, what they look like since he
left there.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
If they just left solid with the Jets and they
kept coughing, they didn't just like walk out the door
like that. Why their defense is playing? They're playing really good.
I mean, but Sala, I didn't seen him call games
like that when he was in New York though, Like
I've seen him two weeks in a row called great
games and really throughout the year. But like, it's just
hard to overcome the loss of Nick Bosa and Fred
(10:22):
Warner and they have on that. I mean, you know,
your superstars win games for you. Yeah, like Rice Huff
he forced two fumbles yesterday, Alfred Collins Fellow and one
like those safeties are knocking the living just bringing time
they hit somebody they.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Played down hill. And I'm also, you know, seeing when
you're playing against these big time backs, and I would
say you could put him right in there at the
top of the list. And you look at Bajan and
how he's playing like this is not a play on
your heels, read and react. This is a get on
your toes, see it, trust it, and go and that
I haven't even seen your breakdown yet, but that that
was my same thing. I'm looking at him like there
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are there is just a red flurry of bodies called it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I said when they left the field, it was just
blood on the tracks because they were those red shirts yesterday. Yeah,
and all I saw was seven guys on top of
b shon play Houzier or Panix, And all I saw
was just like like literally just drawing blood on every
play man. But don't you just want to watch a
fun game? Just watch that one against a really good offense.
I mean that's a good offense, and they led the league.
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They came in averaging one hundred and fifty one yards
a game rushing, like they didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But I just think of these other games you watch
and you see people getting up to linebackers and you
see this everybody's just kind of like trying to see
sort of like hey, man, get your keys, trust your
eyes and go, like you've got to go get these guys.
If you're going to sit there on your heels against
these types of running backs, you're gonna get gashed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All they're looking for. All they need is a little
bit of daylight, yep. And these guys are too good.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So I mean sometimes I think it's like, oh man,
that's the scheme and the man, they schemed that up well.
And other times I think they just have installed the
temperament there of like this is our style, is how
we're going to play.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And there's a and DJ like I don't remember what
defensive coording made it was, you know, you know, Rob
Ryan or somebody there was like a step up and
clean it up or back up and give it up.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I think they stepped up and cleaned it up. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, that's a great line. I love that. All Right,
Giants Denver, I think maybe the most entertaining game of
the day. I think you could safely say both quarterbacks
had game winning drives. I mean, Jackson Dart's not going
to get credit for his because the defense kind of
blew it at the end. But then give bow Nick's
credit because he got them down at the end of
the game. Wild game thirty three thirty two, Denver comes
from way behind end up winning that why thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Three points in the fourth quarter DJ And honestly, like
if you watched it, I mean, Jackson Dart is just
an amazing He just has an amazing awareness around him,
like that those guys coming after him are just like
there's just blood in the water, man, those are sharks
coming after him. His ability just to avoid Nick Benito,
Jonathan Cooper, Zach Allen and then make plays.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And you know, like a lot of these guys that
run around they sacked themselves. He doesn't sack himself. You know,
like it wasn't clean all the time, but he just
has a feel for it. That's that's what I'm saying.
Like it felt like an SEC Saturday night game to me,
and you know, it's a shame that they lost because
Skataboo and Jackson Dart man if energized that a whole franchise,
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But I felt like, after watching all of it, it
came down to literally one play DJ. It's a twenty
six to sixteen game with five minutes and change to
go in the fourth quarter, and Sean Payton is burning
his timeouts. He knows the clock is the enemy. He
needs the ball. So first down they run it, don't
get anything. Second down they run it. Sean Payton burns
first two timeouts. It's third down. If you just run
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it on third down and punt, they still need two
scores and it's gonna be under five minutes to go
with no timeouts left, and they threw it and that's
when you know, they blitz zero at him and justin
suranad jumped back and you know, intercepted the Jackson Dart
you know play. They scored a touch and it turned
the whole thing around. I don't want to put it
on the coach, but like the dable's got to be
better than that. He's got a rookie quarterback, he got
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a tough defense. I just thought that what moment the
only mistake Jackson Dart really made all day and it
really cost him.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, there's some line smart enough to remember it ball
that you and to Douke, discretion is a greater form
of valor. I don't know, I can't remember how it goes,
but something along those something along those lines. Yeah. Yeah,
I went through and I watched all darts pass attempts
in this game. Because he was fifteen for thirty three
so it wasn't like a super efficient but guys, two
hundred and eighty three yards, three touchdowns and a pick.
So I'm like, there's got to be some explosives baked
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in here, Like what did this look like? So I
go in there and I know I know this. I
know this pass rush, you know, I see I know
this past rush well from Denver. So I'm like, man,
this will be interesting to see. But you man, he's
always does just continually. By time he's scrambling, they're moving
the pocket around. They didn't have an answer for the
tight end. They leak him out a couple of times
you get to kind of the crazy combo catch on
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the tip tipball touchdown. But they did a nice job.
And to me, I wrote down in my notes, I
like for a young guy to play with urgency without
chaos like he was playing fas, but yet he was
able to then kind of slow things down. It wasn't
like he was scrammling throwing off his back foot. He
was just getting away from the trouble. And once he
got away from the trouble, he kind of slowed down
and got his eyes where they needed to be and
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he made.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Just to that safe, clean spot where he's got a
good vision and he sees the whole field.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The guy sees the field really good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'd love to see, you know, like a little helmet
cam with him, just to see how he's scanning the field,
because if there's an open guy and he steps up
and clears the soup like he's going to make it completion,
he's gonna he's gonna find the open.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Guy, you know who he reminded me of. And this
is like because I know coming out and he's like
he's so, he's rugged and he's tough. He ran the
ball out of Old Miss and so people were saying
like he's kind of a smaller version of Josh Allen
because you know, he can do some of those type
of things. Yeah, all the I was watching him just
with that that one element of his game. That's Mahomes
ask a little bit where he's got a feel and
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he can be fast, but then slow down and then
survey everything. Mahomes got unbelievable vision for all of his
tools that he has, his ability to be on the
move and see the entire field. So I'd be I know, Giants,
you know, look, the record is what it is. But
if I woke up this morning and I was a
Giants fan, like, I'm pretty pumped that I think you're
going to Man, I mean, that's not an easy place
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to play.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's a horrible It's I've never played up there seven
times in my career.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I never won a game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Like, I mean, everybody's huffing and puffing up there, Like
if you're not from there, and you Jackson dart Man
him in Statabu, the two of them, man, they're they're amazing,
amazing players.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, on the Denver side of things, Hey, give Boonex's credit.
They get the ball left with thirty three seconds left
at their own twenty two, needing a field goal, and
it took them all of two plays to get in
field goal range. I mean, hey, I mean it was
that that. I don't even know if that ball was
intended for where it landed on the deep ball because
that that first play was like a deep sit route.
But he's I looked like he was trying to hit
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the deep cross and it kind of missed him a
little bit. And then you just kind of you have,
you know, the guy out there to catch it. Either
way you get that big completion and then is there
any is there any better throat to have in your
back pocket than when you're in this type of situation
when you can work the sideline with Cortland Sutton and
just go I can just throw a back shoulder to him.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's I mean there's not every receiver can run back
shoulder phage like that. You know, just have that length
of the footwork, legs go dead, you know, put your
put your hands on the ball. It's you know, and
they look give Demver credit, but that I felt like,
you know, after the Giants went down and scored like
the way they did that was that was a hard one.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
If you're a Giant fan, you just you just gut
punched today.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, Uh, Drew put in on a little chat here
that there was video that came out showing Burns upset
about them dropping eight in that situation. I mean, I
don't know. I've seen it work both ways. I've seen
teams try and heat up a quarterback and then give
up a run after catch explosive. I've seen teams try
and play coverage and drop eight and get beat.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So yeah, this this was like very similar though.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
DJ they you know, they lost to Dallas, and you
know Dallas did the same thing. They hit Ferguson for
a eighteen yard throw over the middle. They didn't really
take anything away. Dak was a looking for anybody and
I just remember that play, like and then they kicked
the you know, they got a guy that kicks sixty
yard field goals and so you know, they let them
get to the fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Like this is twice they.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Had games one against good teams and you know, let
it slip away.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's tough loss for them, But again I'm hopeful
and optimistic if you're a Giants fan, just based off
where the quarterback is right now, Washington Dallas. You mentioned
the Dallas team there, Baldy. They doubled up Washington. Jade
Daniels gets hurt forty four to twenty two. Dallas wins,
and it was kind of a was a Dak Prescott show.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I just play this game when I watched Dak, and
I actually did it with Flacco the other night. I'm
literally just going one two three, ball out, one two three.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
There is a rhythm. I mean, I don't care if
it's a three step or five step drop.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
He's hitching and he's throwing and however they're obviously it
helps that you have pickings and you have CD back,
but it doesn't matter if it's Jake Ferguson or who
he's thrown to right now the ball. I have never
seen Dak play this good. Ever, I don't care if
he had a Mari Cooper whoever. He's playing with like
his confidence level right now to see the field, to
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know where his guys are when he has to throw
a jump ball to pickings, like he doesn't miss right now.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But I just thought, dude, I.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Just think in watching him because this is the third
time now DJ, they've put up forty plus, so this
isn't a fluke. This is what they can do. And
they got they got Booker back in the offensive line.
He got their guys all up front, so they ran
the ball really good. With Javonte, he looks like he
did his rookie year or even going back to North Carolina.
But so he's given him some real pop. But Dak
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has a rhythm to this offense. It is as good
a timing rhythm offense as ers in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I think one of the things that impressed me the
most going through his stuff in this game was I
always think about somethings with defenses almost like whack them all,
where you kind of they're trying to make late movement
and trying to they play kid of invert to cover
two on one of them, and it's just they're trying
to catch you with a late movement. And it's like
Dak is he'd be on leave a whackamole player because
it's like he just see that boom boom boom boom boom,
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and then the next thing you know, ceedee lambs throwing
his hand up and you're splitting them and gashing him
like he's he looks very comfortable and poised, and none
of that late movement stuff's bother him at all. The
voids he's finding them.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To your point though, DJ the throw to the CD
for the big touchdown that was you know, play action
under center. You know, Max protected, Max it up and
really literally he could have thrown to Pickens or CD
like they were.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Both down the field. But I mean, you know they
they run into each other.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But you know, honestly, like I've been watching this Washington defense,
like people are just going after Lattimore like left and right,
like he just is not the same guy. Like I
don't know what they're gonna do, but the the accumulation
of injuries over the year, he's not anywhere near the
type of guy that would just challenge you know, big
ex receivers at the line of scrimmage and they couldn't
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get off. It's they're running by him right now.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I know coming into the Charger game that they had
given up the most explosive pass plays because I was,
you know, getting ready prepping for that game. I got it,
especially after this when I got to their their fault
holding firm to that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It looks at he's looking at takeaways and explosives and
if you're taking it away and you're limiting the explosives,
like you have a pretty good chance of winning these
games on Sunday, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Jade and Daniels gets hurt when it's hamstring, so we'll
see how long that's going to be. This feels like
and this happens in sports. It's not just the NFL.
It happens in all types of sports. I think of uh,
you know us C Lincoln Riley's first year there. They
won all those games, but it was almost like, you know, guys,
this is not the schedule kind of fell our way.
We kind of got some breaks, like we're ahead, this
is ahead of schedule, not necessarily indicative of where we are.
(21:35):
I think last year we're kind of looking back at Washington,
go man. Everything kind of lined up for them. Well,
it all kind of worked. You got the the squeezed
the last little juice out of some veterans, and it
just kind of it popped form. And now I feel
like it's kind of come. It's come, not say crashing down,
but like this is probably more the the arc that
I thought they were on when Kingsbury got there, uh
you know, dan Quinn got there, Jane Daniels all coming
(21:56):
in there together. I thought this is probably three. You
have the year three, you'll see this tank take off.
Sometimes it goes out of order though chronologically.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, a couple of things. One I remember his first
game last year, Jade Daniels like he ran, he played
played Tampa and Todd Bowles split some every play and
he ran it sixteen times, a lot of them just
escaping the rush, and I thought, this guy's not going
to survive. Now they kept running him, and they're still
running him, and now he's starting to like these injuries
are coming because he's you know, he's not a big guy,
(22:25):
he's frail, he's tough as gonna go.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, he's very.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Narrow, and then you know, you take mclaar and you
take Debo, you take the top three receivers out, like
you're just going to be limited with any kind of
attacking that poor secondary of the Cowboys, and they didn't
have that ability. So it's you know, but some of
what you're saying is is definitely true. I'd like to
see him a little bit more at full strength. But
they did not get the running game going against Dallas,
(22:48):
and that had been their achilles heel all season long.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, no doubt. Let's take quick pause, we'll come back,
We'll get to three more games here really exciting weekend
of football. Some crazy games, one of them not exciting.
We'll get to that one, all right, Baldi. The game.
I was at Man I studying this game, getting ready.
Sometimes you look at records and you're like, okay, is
this kind of a fake five and one? You know,
(23:12):
like who have they played? What have they done? And
then I studied that the Colts all week getting ready
for the game, like no, no, no, this this offense
is very very good. And defensively I thought there was
some things maybe you could attack, especially because the secondary
injuries that they had. But offensively, this is a this
is a difficult team. I don't know if you follow him, Baldi,
but Dan Casey is you know a guy that all
these coaches follow that does a great job of posting
(23:34):
plays and he's you got to look at his He
did a full ten play breakdown. It just and it's
just the place. And then he gives a description of
what you play. Call is of ten plays for Shane
Stike and you can see the stuff he's doing is
in like he is next level with the stuff he's
doing offensively right now, a lot of insert stuff where
you've got tight end you've got two tight ends where
(23:54):
you've got the outside tight end releasing inside the tight
end next to him, and then it just looks like
you're going there to block somebody. Then he's gone, and
then you get a lot of just hold and release
stuff from guys on the perimeter and they're getting lost
and they're getting guys wide open. And then hey, you
get a third and ten, you want to take a
shot down the field. It's a double chip with like
(24:14):
a deep deep curl and a deep deep corner, but
understanding how to marry what you need protection wise to
get the ball vertically, and then not to mention all
the just the different ways they're running, like you know,
the counter stuff and same side poles and everything else
they're doing in the run game like it he was
as we talked about players getting in a rhythm, Shane
Stikeen got in a rhythm in that game. It was
(24:36):
it was surgery what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, it's pretty interesting, you know because it started last year.
But you know, they they drafted Bortolini and they drafted
gun Salvi's you know, middle round guys that are starters,
and they let Will Fryes and Ryan Kelly go and
they rebuilt that offense line. Those kids are great players,
like tough kids. So that's up front. How many different
places did Tyler Warren line up?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, he's all over the place. He's everywhere, you know,
and so they ran duo with him at fullback and
he just cleans it up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So so I've been watching this now because you know,
people want to like even Daniel Jones is that he's
being asked after the game, like you know, nobody expected
this and like, well, you know, you didn't do your work.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But you know, regardless, he's not making any mistakes DJ No,
he used to the ball is going where's like he's
seeing the field and that. But he's even when he
would see the field before he'd missed a throw, like
he wasn't an accurate guy, Like he's stick accurate right
now with the ball and his eyes just you know,
he trusts his eyes. But you know what Steichen is
(25:38):
doing with these tight ends, like running him through the
line where the guys are getting lost and they're getting
deep behind him, and and like that's that's been a
stateboard I feel like every week and honestly, I'm they
able to beat in the rams. If they didn't have
a knucklehead play, you know by the receiver, they could
easily be under that. Yeah, they want to play if
if you want to play that style, they can line
(25:59):
up and do that. Because Jonathan Taylor's gonna he's gonna
give you a bunch like he's he's on his game.
He looks really awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He looks aw and.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Josh Downs has his role like everybody's got a defined
role on that team.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Pierce made some plays down the field in this game.
Downs was out and then I mean they're big, they're physical,
and Jonathan Taylor has adds the speed element to it.
It's just it is a very well coached offensive team.
The offensive line is very physical. It was It was
quite impressive watching them in person. And the other thing
I would say is if you did, if you if
you did a breakdown Baldie and that if you could
(26:33):
insert you think about like the halo rule for a
punt returner, right yeah, if you did. And I think
this goes to why Daniel Jones has been so accurate.
You go to him when he's getting ready to release
the ball and you just put a halo circle. Nobody there.
I mean he's started like clean pocket. Yeah, clean pocket
after clean pocket after clean pocket.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well they they you know, protection first, so all the
chipping and everything on the outside like that, that's going
to be a big part. They did the same thing
to the rams to be able to make sure that
Daniel Jones going to be clean. So I agree with that.
I think that uh. I always said this about Quentin
(27:09):
Nelson and it's really implies this year. Like there was
a time when Zeke was running in Dallas and Zach
Martin was the right guard, and he used to say
that no matter where the play starts, it always ends
up Like Zach Martin, I feel like right now, like
no matter where the run starts, it finishes behind when
in the way that he's playing right now because he
you know, when he first came into this leg, he
was just you know, he was just drilling people into
(27:31):
the dirt. He doesn't really play that style where he's
just trying to you know, get pancake box. But he's
so good right now. Man, he's his endurances. He's running
every play. The only pool to the right with him
or to the left with him. He's so good in space.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, I remember I don't know why I was thinking
of this. We had an old scout he used to say, uh,
you know, talking about Corner, and he's like, look, I'm
not saying it's always his fault, but he's always at
the scene of the crime, and he's got all over Yeah,
Like I'm not saying I'm not saying that. Quentin's yeah,
reason why all these things are happening, But he always
seems to be in the picture at the scene of
the crime when when things are going down.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But he's let me ask you this because I talked
to lou Anarumo a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I mean,
first of all, he was bragging about the forest Buckner
like he had had never had a three technique like that,
and it's amazing. I don't know how many years Buck's
been going on, probably almost ten years almost, like he's
still got so much juice.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
But they were really.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're really having trouble with some run fits, you know,
and how they were doing things to really fix the
run game compared to what they were doing a year ago,
the year before that. And then I thought they had
some issues at Corner. I was curious just how because
I haven't seen the defense.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, they're there. The charge was I mean Herbert threw
for four undred yards. I mean they moved the ball
up and down the field. They had you know, Grover
Stewart pops the ball up in the ear to himself
and picks it off the end one drive. Herbert tried
to force the ball in the end zone. For picking
the end zone. So I mean that they that was.
It should have been a It should have been a
high thirties forty game for the chart offense. Ronde Gatzon
(29:01):
I'll get to in a minute, had a huge game.
He's got two really good games back to back.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I want to finish.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yes, there were two really good rookie tight ends. But
to Forest Buckner, nine pressures, two sacks, and when you
go through and watch it ball that this is my
one recommendation. I like to give you one Baldy breakdown
wreck for the week that I'd love to see you do.
Just look at the toolkit of the Forest Buckner in
those nine pressures. Because you watch some guys like I
remember we had Trevor Price when I you know he
used to be he was with him in Baltimore. He
(29:28):
was unbelievable. It was swim swim, swim, swim, swim skinny
like the Forest Buckner. You watch it. So he wins
on a twist, he wins on a push poll, he
wins on an inside spin, which you don't see from
interior d Lineman. Ever, he wins with a long arm.
You'll see him. He'll he'll get doubled. He'll stack two
moves together and get home like he's showing you the
whole toolkit of in his year ten for him, this
(29:50):
is ten years in the NFL, and he was going
I was friendly fire. He's going up against his you know,
another former duck back there and Herbert, and you know
when you know you're a big dude when you swallow
up justin Herbert when you get back there, which he
did a couple of times. But the Forest Buckner playing
at a very high level. Those guys are good. Those
two DT's him and Grover Stewart against the run are
really really good good. They can they can shut.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It down a lot. I saw a lot he got home.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He got home. I mean they got to I mean
I thought, overall, considering how many times they threw it
that the you know, the Chargers collection of backup tackles there.
You know, they hung in there as good as they
could and they threw the ball pretty well. But inside
that to me is the forest buckner. If you're getting
ready to play them like you circle him defensively, and
then the secondary they're missing some guys. Yeah, and so
(30:33):
there was there was There was a lot of opportunities
down the field, but they hey, do you do what
you got to do. You get turnovers and they were
able to do that yeah too, So that was that
was big there, But real quick on Gadson seven for
a Bucks sixty four. He just keeps getting better and better.
In Conklin's not even I mean I think he's that's
clearly he's he's beat him out. But you look at this,
you know, the concern for me on the Charger side
(30:55):
of things. Defensively, it's not like the Calvary's coming. They
got Khalil Mack back in this game. You know, he
a ton, but they'll get more of him and he'll
get healthier that that'll help them going forward. They were
missing the safety in this ball game, so you'll get
low he's gone, and I wonder, you know, a loowie
in terms of the you know, communication side of things.
That might be something they miss a little bit, but
have Elijah Molden out, he'll he'll be back. So defensively,
(31:19):
I don't know, there's a ton more upside. They got
to figure some things out communication wise in the back end.
Offensively there, I would be optimistic just because Joe Walt's
really close. I think there's a good chance he plays
Thursday night. That'll make a big difference for him. Then
you look at eventually down the line, you get hamped
and back, you know, the running by the Rooi running back,
who's playing great, And then you start looking at it
going Okay, Maconkey's coming around, Keenan's playing well, Quentin Johnson
(31:41):
was back this week, and now all of a sudden
you got this tight end and Gatston who's who's making
some plays. You could see by the end of the
year they could be really, really dynamic as the offensive
line work. In fact, yeah, they got to survive and
that's why this Thursday night game will be big for
them against Minnesota coming in there. All right, Baldi, I
didn't I think I showed you this text beforehand, and
(32:02):
I think I would have time this morning to get
to the Vegas case game. To offer anything to what
you've done on this I have.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It was so bad, so one sided. I figured that's
not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, no it wouldn't. It's not a
high PERSI I still.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The Raiders last week, and I knew how the only
team that could have beaten last week DJ was Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's the only team that could have beaten.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It took me four minutes in forty four seconds to
watch every offensive snap from Vegas in this game. I
don't remember ever doing that now. I mean I rewound
a couple of plays a couple times. But if I
mean I was it was I was joking with you.
I mean they could if you were going to do
the theme of the Raiders offense, it'd be run, run sack.
I mean that was. That was That was a painful watch.
How about some numbers? Did this thing? Three first downs
(32:45):
over seven on third down ended up being thirty plays
when you count for penalties, thirty plays with ninety five
total yards. And I mean, I'm just I'm right down penalties,
negating first downs, drop sacks, throwing underneath the sticks on
like third and seven, third and eight, run run sack,
you're trying to run quick screen after quick screen against
maybe one of the best tackling secondaries in the NFL.
(33:07):
I mean, it's just catching, catching tackle.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Tr mcduffey and Jayats.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm like, those guys don't miss tackles. So it was
faulty from a game plan standpoint, faulty from an execution standpoint.
But I mean, hey, give Kansas City credit. That Kansas
City had thirty first downs on offense and Vegas ran
thirty plays. I don't know that's ever been done before.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Well, I mean, did you ever see Rice back.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Obviously he made a difference already, but we already knew
as soon as Amy Worthy came back in that offense,
this whole thing just changed.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
And now you've got Braden Smith working into the offense.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And you know, people don't want to hear that Mahomes
and Kansas City are back at four to three, but
they're back all the way back, like they're just gonna
be tough to be because they're gonna they're gonna score thirty,
Like any of the dollgrooms they had last year are gone.
Like this is a this is this offense, and you
give Andy Tinkering time at night with Mahomes, like nobody's
(33:59):
better drawing up new play week in week out, and
you know, but the like I'm curious, like if I
was there in this one because I saw it last week.
Like you when your offense is that bad the way
the Jets are that bad, you know you can't score.
It's just a matter of time before your defense just
starts walking on the field and off the field. I
(34:19):
don't care if you're Max Crosby who you are, Like,
you just know you're not scoring points. Like it just
wears everybody down.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, And I think you also get to the point
where you're like, we have to create a turnover. We
have to do something outside of our our normal routine here.
We're not gonna win, like we got to we gotta
get points, we got to get possessions, all that stuff.
So we also have Omar Norman a lot towards ACL
so he's out for the year. That's unfortunate. He's gone
to hit some injuries. I believe in Tennessee they're kind
(34:47):
of going back into his history a little bit. But
that's a tough one. Let's get to the last game here.
I was in there for this one in the studio.
Bucky was at the game. I don't know. I don't
think Bucky's going to miss being here to discuss it.
The Rams thirty five to seven over there in London
over Jacksonville. Just an anemic, anemic performance from the Jags
(35:10):
and the Rams. Matthew Stafford, I mean, if he's not
the MVP, he's in the top three right now. I
mean he's putting together a monster season for the Rams.
Five touchdowns in this game.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Well, I mean that's without Puka, So you know, DeVante
gets the action and he you know, I mean you're
on the one yard line and DeVante's out there like
he's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
He's just gonna win.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Like there's you can't really bracket him, you can't really
double him. He's gonna win with his releases and Stafford
just I talked to DeVante about this a couple of
weeks ago, like how did you build a timing with Stafford?
And he didn't even practice in preseason, like he wasn't
out there, and uh, he said, you know, we're just veterans.
We just talked through this all this stuff, like we
know exactly what we want to do. We don't actually
(35:52):
have to go through it all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But they have.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Amazing chemistry, you know, and you get Puka back with
that defense in that defensive front right now. They destroyed
Jacksonville in that game.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
So to give you an idea of the season that
Stafford's on pace for, He's on pace for forty five
hundred and thirty two yards, forty one touchdowns, five picks.
That's the that's the pace that he's on right now.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So last year Baker threw for over forty touchdowns and
had over forty five hundred yards and he was the
tenth quarterback in NFL history to ever do that. So
you Stafford is right in that top ten category on
this page. And I don't know if it's going to
change the way that he's thrown it right now. He's
(36:37):
he's got two guys that he and in just the
design of offense and the way it is right now.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Like I can see him putting finishing at that pace.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
The one positive on the Jacksonville standpoint, Travis Hunter has
one hundred yard game, gets his first touchdown, and I
lobbied for it in the pregame of this thing. But
you know, I think they're viewing him as a gadget guy,
you know, And so it's just been quick screens and
hetches and tunnel screens, and I'm like, this guy's more
than that. Now. This guy, when I watched him at Colorado,
(37:06):
reminded me of Garrett Wilson or Ohio State. Like, this
guy understands how to get out of in and out
of breaks. This guy can route guys up, and this
guy can play above the rim and win fifty to
fifty balls down the field. Like I think you're short
changing him to make him just your reverse guy and
you you know, and your quick screen guy. So of
course he gets touched on a deep seven round, a
deep corner out in this game, and he gets interfered on,
still powers through it and gets into the end zone.
(37:28):
He catches a they throw it like I assume it
was intended a back shoulder steamball to him, which he
adjusts to him, makes a play, he throttles down in
zone because he shows the feel and instincts and awareness
to do that. And they still tried to mix in
a couple quick quick hitters to him, which went nowhere.
But that's what I've been lobbying for. Look, if you're
going to make the commitment to say he's an offensive player,
which I know and was told in the draft process
(37:49):
he prefers he wants to do both, but given his choice,
he prefers to play offense. So if you're going to
major in offense and minor in defense, well, if you're
going to major in offense and I need you to
be a receiver, let's not make you a gadget. I
make you a dang receiver. And that I feel like
when they've done that this year and they've let him
get down the field, that's when he made the plays.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And and really, Brian Thomas is having a misery.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
We can't catch.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't know what happened, Like is his confidence just
shot because he put up ten touchdowns? But he was
the guy last year and now he's had one drop
after another all year long.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I think he had over twelve hundred yards and ten
touchdowns last year. Yeah, and I'm watching him and I'm like,
he has zero confidence. And I feel bad for I mean,
because Trevor's gonna get nicked because of you know he
has He's got a little bit of the disease of
his misses or bad misses, like you know, you know,
you know it's a guy in accurate MISSI yeah, just
it just takes off and sales it. You know who
(38:42):
it reminds me of just from it. When Lamar Jackson
was coming out, it was hard to get over like
the misses because you're like, man, I see these amazing plays,
but man, some of the misses are so bad.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Would you think it's mechanics? Like is his feet set?
Is he finally threw.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Like balls taken off on him? I just don't think.
I think, honestly more than in a mechanical issue because
I didn't see and jumped out to me. From that standpoint,
I think it's just a guy's confidence is not is
nowhere to be found, okay, and there's no conviction. You
always talk about like you want to throw with conviction,
trust it and rip it. And I just kind of
unsure what he's doing. And then the other part of
it is there's freaking four or five drops every game,
(39:15):
and you add those into the mix, not only do
your stats improve, I think his confidence comes along with that.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
No question, because they could have won a couple of
games this year if they if they just caught the ball.
I know, Buck, he's talked about it a bunch, you know,
but it's uh, he he doesn't have the best group around,
but what he does, miss though.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I had ten foot sale jobs, you know. And you're like,
what the heck happened here? Now it was rainy. It
looked it was rainy there and a little wet, so
maybe that's maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
But I mean they've played that stuff before.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah they got I mean, and they were one of
those teams. It was four and two coming into that game,
I believe. And you're like, what do you think about him?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm just curious. I just had anything to do with
the game, or maybe it did.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But the way the rams said, you know what, We're
just we're just gonna leave on We'll get there on Saturday,
we'll walk through, give the guys off and moves, go
play the game like you like you're going down to
San like you're going to San Francisco to play, you know,
like they took that approach. It's kind of and the
players were like, we just trust, you know, we just
trusted the science is what it's good. And evidently they
(40:18):
started so fast in the game that you know, maybe
that changes the approach of a lot of teams going
over there.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, they stayed in Baltimore, so my same game. So
coming from the West coast, they got on that time zone,
just stayed on that time zone for the week, because
that's a long haul from the West Coast to get
over there. When I when to I.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Think it was Anthony Trained Camden Yards.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
They were at Camden Yards. Yeah, I saw some video
of Stafford out there with a glove throwing the baseball
around a little bit. But uh, the Chargers when this
is going back to Anthony Lynn years. I believe when
I was this was like eighteen maybe. Uh, they played
the Titans over there, and they had played Cleveland the
week before, so they had stayed in Cleveland, right, and
just stayed on that East Coast time and then went
(40:57):
from Cleveland over to London and beat Thet's over there.
So everybody has different theories on it. But you know,
you know who's you know who's crushed by this whole development.
It's money by our buddy. So Matt Muney Smith, who's
played by play with the Chargers, he's like, oh no, man,
He's like, you know, he likes getting over these international cities.
He likes exploring he likes being able.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
To take a sight see.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, he doesn't like this idea of just jetting in
and jet now. He feels like he's going to miss
out on his travel experience.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, well that's that's what the off season is for.
I've done all those.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, you're all over that, Hey, Baldy, this was fun, man,
damn through it, miss miss Buckey. But we'll have him
back tomorrow. A couple of Monday nighters. By the way,
uh as as a fan, put your fan hat on.
Do you like the double Monday nighters?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Well, I mean this last week when they were playing
like they staggered the games, so I had one game
on one screen and the other game on the other screen.
It was actually, you know, it was actually kind of
fun to sit there and watch both games at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Like they're staggering tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
So one fin this is one starts like that's a
little late when we start as early as we're starting,
So I don't think I'm gonna finish.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, the second game, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I just think one game is enough.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I'm a one game guy. Man. I I don't I
love I love football. It's hard to say it's too much.
But it's like just like having the standalone one game.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Man. Yeah, I know, but you got two good games tonight,
so yeah, we'll see like if one, you know, if
one's no good, maybe you'll stay up and watch the
second one.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, we got that plus a big game seven in
baseball too, keep an eye on. Yeah, all right, Baldy
to be the best brother. I appreciate you, man, we'll
see all right there he goes. Appreciate Baldi coming on
each and every Monday here, uh, breaking these games down.
We'll get back tomorrow. I got bad news for everybody.
It looks like rtt Lewis had another good week in
the rookie draft unfortunately, so we'll hear about that all
(42:45):
tomorrow when he joins the show, and we have our
rookie draft for this upcoming week as well. And his
swishers had to keep winning, man, So he's feeling good
about life. Meanwhile, Buck's Carolina, it's our heels. No point now, Well,
we'll welcome those guys back tomorrow. Appreciate you guys. See
you next time I move the sticks.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Mhmm
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.