November 13, 2025 • 30 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are joined by national college football insider Bruce Feldman from FOX Sports and The Athletic. Bruce breaks down the chaos of the current coaching carousel, from which coaches are in highest demand to where the dominoes might fall next (0:50). Then, he shares his insight on the top quarterback prospects ahead of the 2026 NFL Draft (17:25) and weighs in on the speculation surrounding Lincoln Riley’s future at USC (27:33).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky, and our good
friend Bruce Feldman is joining us. Bruce, how you doing, Buddy?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Great? Good to be on with you guys. Great to
have you back.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Before we get into all.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's going on and the three coaches that still have
their jobs, how has your fall been?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
My fall has been good. Unlike the last couple of
years down the road with Big Noon, I'm in the
studio on Friday nights and all day Saturday with Chris
Peterson and Mike Hill and it's been a blast, you know,
and don't have to travel as much or at all,
and that part's been good, so I can't complain. And
it's been a fun season. A lot of craziness on
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the coaching carousel, as you guys know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But is this are we at the end, middle or
beginning of the craziness with the coaching carousel.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We're in the middle because there's been so many big
jobs that have come up open. But at the same time,
now we got to see who get who gets the jobs,
and that's why I think I don't want to say
we're at the beginning, but I definitely don't think we're
at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's so crazy, is so interesting. So from here you've
been in this world a long time. Like what do
people on insight say about the craziness that goes on
about the care sale, Like the coaches that are in
the middle of it, Like how do they handle the
heightened expectations and the shortened patients when it comes from.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The High East as it relates to job evaluation. Yeah, Bucky,
I think the thing that changed it as much as
anything is Kurt Signetti goes to Indiana. Hardly anybody outside
of like you know, small diehard football people knew who
he was, took over a three win team and a
year one he got him to the playoff. And year
two there's a bunch of people, myself included, who think
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he has a look a legit chance to win a
national title at Indiana. Now, it helped that he took
a bunch of really good players with him from James Madison.
But I think when people look and go, wait, that's
Indiana and he did this in a year, you have
no excuse. You know, in year four at LSU or wherever,
you know, whatever year it is, because you definitely have
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more history, you know, better stadium, better talent pool to
recruit to. And I think because of that, and people
look at the money involved with these coaching contracts and
I think, you know, kind of a subplot of this
is when you have like two or three coach agents
who represent almost the entire field, it makes it more complicated,
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right because I think the agents have so much more
leverage in this space than they do let's say, as
you know, you know agents would if you're a player.
It's just a much different dynamic. And I think because
of that, you comple all those things and there's just
not enough. There's just not enough candidates to fill the
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jobs now that are going to be open. And I
think what goes into it also is there's a bunch
of schools that are like, we can't hire that guy.
He's too he went from a small school, or that
guy feels kind of like this guy, even though they
probably have very little in common actually in how they are,
but just their profiles might be similar in terms of
they were a group of five guy where they came
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from this place. You know, it's just you're really trying
to threat a needle. I feel like if you're an
ad trying to do a coaching search, now there was.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A lot there, Bruce. The first thing I wanted to
hit on was the Indiana portion. So and people say, yeah,
they brought a lot of good players with him last year.
They had two draft picks, a fourth rounder and a
seventh rounder. So it wasn't like this, you know, some
of these other transfer portal years where we've seen I
go back all the way to the first one, which
was probably Michigan State, where it's just you know, you
get Kenneth Walker and like some you know, stud players
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that came in there. He's got some good players, but
obviously speaks to the coach that he is. And I
know they'll have more more picks in the years to
come here. But who is the I'm not gonna say
who the name of the coach that people are chasing,
but who is the profile that they're chasing? Is it
the trying to find the next Signette? Is that the
next Dan Lanning? Like what is the most popular profile
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that they're that they're looking for right now?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The bell of the ball on the coaching carousel's Lane
Kiffin right, because he's having success in the SEC. He
is an offensive guy. He's got a big social media presence.
Not to say that people are like, ooh, pining after that,
but fans want that that edge to them, you know,
especially if you're at Florida or at at LSU. I
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don't think it's much of a thing at Penn State,
but certainly all miss wants to keep him. But the
way you frame that question, I think there's a lot
of people who would love to get Dan Lanning, but
he's probably not leaving or again, you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Know, but not like I'm not saying like the coach itself,
but saying like, who is the next Dan? Are we
trying to find the next Dan Lanning? In other words,
an assistant that's he's at a high profile place. Are
we trying to find the next Signetti? Maybe someone who's
been a head coach but has been building up levels,
Like what is the profile not so much the person
the individual, but what's what's the popular profile or chase?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, I think if you're trying to build up like
there's a guy who replaced Signetti at James Madison, Bob Chesney,
he's spent you know, he's still in his mid forties,
but spent a long time as a head coach at
holy Cross, has done well, has done well at James Madison.
I suspect he will get a power for head coaching
job this cycle. He might get Virginia Tech if James
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Franklin doesn't want it. I don't know where else he
could be in play. I'm sure he'll get some consideration
for Penn State. He's a Pennsylvania native. It is a
big jump, but you know, Signette's off the board for them.
Matt Ruhle, who's close to the ADA at Penn State,
he's off the board. So they're gonna don't want to
say they're going to reach for somebody, but they're going
to probably hire somebody who definitely didn't win anywhere near
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as many games as James Franklin has at a high level.
So there's there's that In terms of the coordinators. You know,
will Stein is a name he's actually on Landing staff
that I think he will probably get a really good job.
I don't want to say sooner than later, because I
know he has a good job right now and I
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don't think he will be the guy who's going to
jump into just any group of five head coaching job.
But he was a former Louisville quarterback, then was a
Texas high school coach and did well at UTSA, and
now has done really well at Oregon. But he's younger,
and I think he knows all right. Am I going
to follow the Kenny Dillingham route? Well? Kenny Dillingham went
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to his alma mater, which is a which is still
a pretty big job, but it was down when he
took it at Arizona State. So I think will Stein
is one of those. Colin Klein obviously was a terrific
player in college. Now he's A and m's offensive coordinator.
He's definitely drawing a lot of interest. I don't know
if he ends up at Arkansas. I don't know if
he ends up at Oklahoma State, but I think those
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are places that are definitely looking closely at him, you know, Bruce.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's interesting because Mike Olko is getting a lot of
conversation right because he's at text In and I'm doing
a fantastic job with them, but they still feel like
he needs to level up. Like people are talking like
he needs to level up. Why would anyone want to
leave Texas a and M. When it appears they have all
the resources in the world to fund a championship run
year after year after year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's a great question, right, because you got all those
things are true. But you know, when someone's first year there,
it was actually the first year they were in the SEC.
They finished top five and it was the first time
in a half a century that they did that. Like,
there's been just feels like a lot of underachieving at
A and M. Right, and then Jimbo went there and
there was one pretty good year, but the rest was
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a big disappointment. Elko is a Northeast guy from New Jersey,
did terrific at Duke and has done you know, and
I feel like this is just the beginning for him
at A and M. Like they've been super impressive. They
look I'd be curious what you guys think of this,
But just like sitting there watching games with coach Pete,
I'm like, man, they look like they're the fastest team
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on the field every Saturday. You know, you have a
quarterback that way, you have dynamic running backs and receivers
and they get after on defense. I could see Penn
State being a man. Could we get that guy? You
know like and he is a Northeast guy, and he
worked at Notre Dame as a defensive coordinators comme at
some high academic schools. So I think if you're a
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Penn State man, that would be a if you could
get him. I just don't know if you can get
him out of college station because they have a ton
of money. They obviously had enough money to throw that
money at Jimbo and then throw it even more when
they realize it wasn't going to work. I mean, when
nobody else thought you could, you could have such a
massive buyout and eat it. So I don't know. I mean,
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I don't know if he sits there and goes, you
know what, I'm pretty close to to maybe even this
year getting over the top, but next year will probably
only get better. So I don't know if he's if
he's movable, but I could see Penn State certainly being interested.
If I'm LSU, I'd be interested in them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I want to ask you about two guys who I've
never met. Either guy, but I've been impressed with the
jobs that they've done. And you do hear their names
Floater for some of these gigs. But Brent Key Clark Lee,
tell me about those two guys and what they you know,
the job that they've done, But what the the allure
would be for those guys for some of these huge jobs.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, what they have in common is they're both out
there alma maters and that that probably adds another piece
of whether you can get them out of those jobs.
But like in Brent Key's case, it's a cool story
where this guy, you know, was a Georgia Tech offensive
line guy. It was a long time Georgia O'Leary protege,
was at UCF. At one point we thought he was
going to be the next coach at UCF. That didn't
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work out. You know, he worked for Saban at Alabama,
he was the interim and then and at interim at
Georgia Tech and ended up they played so hard for him.
They you know, he got the job and he's done
really well. And he's got a quarterback in Haines King,
who by the way, started his career at A and
m coach's kid who seems to fit what they want right,
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And you just can't. You have to be impressed with
them if the first time you really paid attention to
them was when they were in like the fifteen overtime
game Thanksgiving weekend against Georgia, and they had George on
the ropes, you'd be like, all right, I'm I'm a believer.
Like he's made smart hires too, like his OC buster Faulkner,
who'd been a good OC at smaller schools and then
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was on Kirby's staff and kind of knew how to
kind of knew the secret to the sauce to like, oh,
what's going to give Kirby's defense some problems? Let's build
that And he did. So I think that that's a
really impressive deal that they have going there. And I
could see, you know, Penn State certainly will have interested
in him. I heard LSU does whether he wants to
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leave or they can get him to leave. That's another
story with Clark. Lee was the guy that you did
a really good job as a defensive coordinator. He ended
up getting the Vandy job, that's his alma maters from Nashville.
They chose him over Lance Lightpold, who had way more
experience as a head coach, and for a while it
looked like they chose raw because Lance Lightpold was working
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miracles at Kansas and Clark Lee had a couple of
two win seasons, but then he made a really shrewd
move by hiring Jerry Kill and Tim Beck from New
Mexico State. They told him, hey, we got this quarterback who, Yeah,
you might not think he looks like much, but he's
special and Diego Povey is absolutely that And it was
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a program changing move. And I think they made some
other really shrewd evaluations, not just in players but in staff.
And it's worked and they have a chance to be
a playoff team. What I think there will be a
little bit of, you know, wonder about is how much
is this is pave in the New Mexico State guys.
Are we going to be able to recreate this going forward?
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And I don't know the answer to that, but I
know this, like, they are a legit threat to make
the playoffs this year, and they got a lot better,
and I think he's created a really good culture. And
you know, I think, as a college football fan without
a dog in the fight, you're kind of hoping these
guys stay where they're at because I just think it's
good for the good of the sport. When when you
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see that as opposed to oh, they just I want
to say, chase them more, the more money, but go
for go for that as opposed to like, hey, this
is their schools. They've they care about it, they're invested
in it, and they can build something that. You know,
Georgia Tech won a national title like probably before Bucky
was in the end. No no, no, no right.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No no no no, no no no no doing that national
title year the only team that they could not be
with a North Carolina tour. We tied them that year
because they were chars and couldn't go for it. I
think it was ten ten my freshman year, my richter
for my sophomore year. Yeah, so no, I know all
about it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Ramlin Wreck from Georgia Tech. I was trying to give
you credit for being younger than that, but you know,
but you have a humble brag that you've earned, so
we'll go there. But yeah, it's it's been a minute
for the Yellow Jackets, whereas Vandy, except for like a
couple of years when James Franklin was there, has been
atrocious and He's and Clark Lee's made him relevant.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I want to continue that thought you mentioned, James Franklin.
I want to ask you questions about that, we'll take
a break. We'll come right back with Bruce Feldon. All right, Bruce,
you mentioned James Franklin. It seems like I don't know
if if you've reported this out there, but that all
the buzz seems to be Virginia Tech. If he wants
that it's his, But then you know, is he's sitting
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there waiting for Florida to see what you know, what
happens there, or is Florida State gonna pop or any
other changes that might happen. I'm not gonna ask you
where he's gonna go. I was just gonna ask you,
someone who's followed James Franklin, who's had a lot of success,
where do you think the best fit for James Franklin is?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think it might be Virginia Tech, to be honest.
And that's like he's kind of on the clock from
what I've heard in our reporting that and I don't
know if he has through the weekend. And then if
it's like, hey, are you waiting on Florida State, because
that's what it sounds like he's doing, is do they
fire Mike Norvell at Florida State. It's definitely a bigger
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job than the one in Blacksburg, but I think he's
got a lot of connections around there. His right hand guy,
Michael Hazel, who was with him at Penn State and
then went with with Brent Pride to Blacksburg. He knows
the lay of the land and has more intel on
what's the job really like in Blacksburg than probably any
coach will have it. It's a pretty good job. It's
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is it a great job? I mean, at one point
it was under Frank Beemer, but I think because he
had put so much into it. I don't know if
if you're James, do you sit there and go Okay?
If I don't jump on this job because I want
to see what's going to happen at Florida State, and
if it doesn't open up, well Maryland, where I used
to work, might open up. I'm in the big ten
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because there's definitely pressure on Mike Loxley. From what I've heard.
You know, they're on a big losing streak and they
actually have a really good freshman class in College Park.
I don't know if you can keep them. The quarterbacks good,
the edge rushers are really good. But I think that's
what makes it so hard as you're trying to figure
out where the dominoes are going to fall. And going
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from Penn State where he built it up and the
expectations were crazy, I just think those other jobs. I'm
not saying there's not any pressure in Blacksburg, there's not
any pressure to be in the football coach at Maryland
Florida State is a different animal. But that might be
a place where he could thrive, you know, because we
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know he can recruit and we know he can develop
really good athletes and really good players. The question was
always like with the exception when Joe Morehead was the
offensive coordinator when Tracey McSorley, who he did about who
did bring with him? You know, he was from basically
his recruiting class at Vandy, but like they didn't. It's
been kind of under really underwhelming at quarterback for him,
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you know, over the previous decade or so there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Versus I got to ask you because we're on the
West coast and Ashley, we'll get to UCLA. But I've
never seen this happen before. How does the interim coach
get fired after one game at Oregon State? Like, how
does it even happen that you're the interim coach and
after one game you get let go. I've never seen
that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, I think when dysfunction breeds dysfunction, right, that's the
best way I could say it. And you know, right now,
I definitely feel for the both those programs, one in
Corvallis and one in Polman, just because you kind of
got left, you know, out of countryside. Yeah, And I
think it's hard with the players and hard, you know,
like Jake Dickert did a really good job in Pullman
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to keep it together before ultimately he bailed to go
to Wake Forest, which is not an easy job either.
But I just think that that's the challenge, especially if
you're in core ballas you got, like Jonathan Smith's there
and it's a Zama mater and then even he's like
and everything was good until it was like I can't
do this anymore. And then he goes to East Lansing
and now it's like they don't want him there, so
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he hasn't been there two years. It's just that's kind
of the nuttiness of college football right now.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I want to see, real quick, we'll hit a couple
player questions and let's just scoot. But quarterback wise, Dante
Moore and Mendoza, what are some of the maybe the
personality or character stuff on those guys. We've seen the
play that they've had this year at Oregon and at
Indiana and the job they've done. But two guys which
we see almost all the time now, didn't start there,
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have gone from a different come from a different school.
But what have you learned about those guys, maybe more
so as people than what we've seen as players.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Mendoza I think came into the year with, you know,
more of a track record because he played a lot
more than he was older, and I think he won
over some people. Well, I'll be honest, there's still a
handful of people I talked to who are there's stuff
they aren't that thrilled with about him, you know, and
maybe they're wrong, but I think there's still a little
bit of hesitation on him. Yeah. He he probably makes
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enough plays with his legs, and I think they do
a good job with that. I don't think he's Josh
Allen athletically or anything close, but he's able to be
more effective with his legs than I think people initially
would have given him credit for. You know, how he
is as a leader. I mean again, this is his
first year in the system. There, I think that's a
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little TBD of how he fits in the locker room
kind of thing. But he's been very impressive. You know,
you look at the drive last week against Penn State.
Penn State still has some really good defensive players, and
he gets sacked on the it's allowed as a massive
you know, three and five or three and six or not.
When that place is rocking, I don't care if they're
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they're you know, six and three, three and six. That
was a loud Hey we're gonna get We're going to
take down a top five team here. And Zaine Durant,
who's an explosive edge rusher, sacks him the first play
and all of a sudden like ooh, it's bad, and
then he leads him downfield. His receiver, Omark Cooper Junior,
makes an amazing catch, you know, to cap off the drive.
But he made a couple of really good throws on
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that drive. And he also I give him this. When
they were at Oregon, he threw a pick six and
I felt like, oh, here it goes. They're gonna lose
this game, and they didn't. I mean it wasn't just him,
but he played a big role in it. So, like
I said, I've I've heard from you know, people inside
football who were just kind of like, not huge believers.
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It's not super twitched up.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I mean, I think that might be one kind of
the little bit of the knocks there.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, And I think that I think there's a little
maybe a little other some hesitation, you know, if you
ask people that may come up in the combine. Nothing
nothing like oh his resume wise or legal wise, just
like maybe the yel of how he fits kind of
things maybe gives some people some pause. With Dante Moore
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way less sample size, he's much younger. Unfair to say this,
but like when he played against Penn State again, Penn
State has some athletes on defense, I was like, ooh,
and it was on the road. He was much more
athletic and made more plays with his legs than I
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think myself and a lot of people expected because he's
not a dynamic He's not Jackson Dart or anything like that,
or certainly not Lamar, but his arm talent's high, high level.
You saw that he made one great throw last week
to get to beat Iowa. It was an amazing throw
and that's what he can do. You know, everything I've
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heard from people I trust inside Oregon is he's not
coming out. He doesn't. He wants to. He saw the
Jalen Jaden Daniel's path and not that he plays like
Jayden in terms of like dynamic dual threat guy, but like,
I'm to keep getting better, I'm going to get a
lot of reps. And I think that's what he does.
And I think he stays next year. And look, I
think Oregon's going to make a big financial commitment to
make sure he can do that without much hesitation. So
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wouldn't be shocked if he was a top five pick
in the twenty twenty seven NFL draft. I mean, arm
talent's high, high level, and I just think physically he'll
just keep getting stronger. And you know, again, there's not
like I don't think he's like a super twitchy athlete,
but he's you know again, it's unfair to say he
could be CJ. Shroud, but you know.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Cej had some smoothness to him like Stroud from what
I've seen of him too, kind of remind me a.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Little he does, and he's I feel like, you know,
Bucky You know c J. Stroud party better than anybody
I know because you coached him at a young age.
Like ce Strout was obviously a really good basketball player
and he was super accurate. I don't know if Dante's
as athletic, but he's also like I don't know anybody
looked at CJ and was like, oh, yeah, he's going
to really beat you with his legs at that point.
But he against Georgia, he gave them problems with his
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athleticism and it was like it's there, he just doesn't
He just didn't want to break the glass on it
too often. And credit to him because you know it
was there when he needed but he didn't want to
major in it. I think Dante's like that too, but
probably not as athletic.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know, the name that pops up as the little
engine that could has certainly been the kid at Alabama
Tyd Simpson. What do you know about him? Like, just
what has been the story? Why has he been able
to kind of pop this year for killing the boy?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Uh? Coaches kid? You know his coaches as a high
level FCS coach who's developed a lot of guys and
I think his he's made dramatic improvement from last year
to this year and really from the spring till now
in terms of like what can he do? Like when
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you talk to Ryan Grubb, it was like mid spring,
it was like not smooth. All of a sudden, Now
it's like he's cut it loose and he is playing
at an incredibly high level. And it's not like they
have a run game to help them out. Now they
do have good dynamic receivers, but I think Grub was
obviously the guy who helped Washington get to the National
title game with Michael Pennix junior, And there's a little
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bit of similarities there, you know, I mean, good receivers
and a high level passing game and a guy who's
playing with a ton of confidence. That's great stuff. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Last one, Bruce, I'll let you're on. We want to
circle back to coaches real quick, and let's go instead
of going, you know, at the college level, let's look
at what could potentially go on at the NFL level
if we you know, we're gonna have NFL openings. You
already have some out there. So when you look into
the future, is there a college coach that you see,
You know, there's been rumors with Sark, There's been rumors
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with Lane. There's been even some talk Kirby maybe wanting
to take on another challenge. Do you see any of
these college guys leveling up when we get this NFL cycle?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
The one that might I could see somebody looking at
and he's been in the NFL before. Maybe somebody kicks
the tires on Lane. Do you have interest? Is this
the situation you would want? Lane's gonna have some stuff
to think about with the way things are going in
Old Miss. Obviously Florida, maybe lsu are gonna it's definitely
Florida would be, you know, come after him. But he's
got a good situation in Old Miss. You know, I'd
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heard there was like a legit interest from the giants
in Marcus Freeman, but I also heard from people around
Marcus Freeman that he did not have any interest and leaving,
So you know, Lane would be the one. And I
think one thing to keep in mind is guys who've
never been in the NFL, like we we definitely learned this.
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If you didn't learn it by then with Urban, like
if you've never been in the NFL, and oh, it
is such a different animal, especially because It's like you
think you know a lot when you actually know don't
know anything right when it comes to that world, like
Harball different. Harbough's been fifteen years as a player. I
think he was on the Raider staff for a minute
and then when he goes to the Niners, he crushes it,
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you know. And Pete Carroll, you know, obviously people know
him from USC but he was an NFL assistant for
a long time before he came back. So I just
think it's like the guys who have profile too, he's yeah.
I mean, he wasn't a great offense coordinated with the Falcons,
but he was there for a couple of years. You know.
My hunch on Sark is that if he has interest,
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it's not going to be for this year. I think
he knows he has a roster that should be even
better next year. The whole offense or most of the
offense should come back. It'd be year two for arch
in the system, a lot of the offensive line be
year two for them. And the other part of that
for him is he would you know, I like, his
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best defensive player is an edge rusher who can't come
out till twenty twenty seven, So maybe you just like
push pause. And I've always heard he wants to win
a national title of Texas and probably has a better
chance of doing that next year than he does this year.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Last guy John summerl from Tulane kind of has a
little bit of age to him. I would think that
he would be a natural fit at LSU. I know
they they're aiming maybe for a bigger fish. Talk a
little bit about the two lane coach. Yeah, I think
he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That if you don't know him and you spend ten
minutes talking to him, you like, ooh, I like that guy.
He's a dude, you know it was a former SEC linebacker,
was a former SEC assistant coach at Old Miss in Kentucky.
Everybody who's around him comes away Raving did a really
good job at at Troy, has done a good job
at Tulane. I think he will probably be offered the
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Auburn job at some point. You know, he's an Alabama native.
You know. I there's no job in college football that
I'm like, you know what, I wouldn't you know if LSU.
I don't think they would hire the two lane coach
just for the optics of the money. People at Tulane
would be uncomfortable with that. But you better, you better
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get a really good coach if you if you don't
think that guy fits the profile of what you want,
like like he's one who if who. I think if
they get in the room with him him, they may
change their mind. You know, again, he doesn't have He
is a pretty good team at TWU Lane. You don't
have a great team. You know. They'll probably go nine
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to three, maybe ten and two. I don't know if
they can sneak in the playoff. They had the bad
loss on Thursday night, on a Thursday night against UTSA.
But I just think he is the guy who one
of those guys who has like rising star coach written
all over him.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, I've been impressed with what I've seen of him.
I said that was done. But on this week one
last final one, young Lincoln Riley, do you buy any
of that chatter?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't. I just you know, I know his family
really likes it out here, and I don't think he's
going to like just give away a ton of money.
You know, is he going to go to Stillwater. It's
not like the job at his alma mater is going
to be open. Joey maguire may get a top five
finish in the you know spot in the playoff bracket
at Texas Tech. So I don't, you know, I don't
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know what what Lincoln's move would be like. He's also
got like his best recruiting class.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
On the whole come in thet most of the team,
if the quarterback comes back too. They've got a lot
of good young players on that team. Freshman and sophomore
is playing a lot of minutes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
They do, you know Again, Like everything I've heard is
that his family really likes it out here. I just
think you've been through a couple of years. I don't
know what his next move would be like, but I
think he has a better chance of having a playoff
team in twenty twenty twenty six. I mean, they still
have a chance to get in there this year. I
don't think they will, but like it was a step
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in the right direction. So let's see what, you know,
what he can do right now, because I don't know
if there's a lot of people already out on Lincoln
around USC anyway, But that doesn't mean, you know, if
he gets more players and continues to upgrade him with
a lot of playmakers. I mean, it's pretty amazing what
they've been able to do. The top two running backs
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are out and King Miller's a walk on running back
who has been amazing for them. And I think that
piece of it has been really impressive because I knew
Mikhaia Lemon and Jacobe Lane are pretty special, but to
see what they've done in the run game given all
the injuries, is you know, he deserves credit for that.
That that was not something a lot of people saw coming. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I envy the money that Cam Come was gonna get
USC next year. The kids from Auburn got Lee, get
somebody you can throw that guy at the football's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Too good looking at.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
An athlete to be sitting out there, or the team
that can't throw throw the football. All right, Bruce, you
are the best brother. We appreciate your time, man, and
we'll get you on here again soon.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
My pleasure. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
All right, Buck, there he goes. Bruce is very generous
this time. We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That yeah, that Auburn receiver. Man, he's like the A. J.
Brown of college football. Man like.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Man, he just wants to feel. A J.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Brown is some interesting yeah, I understand Tracy, but I've
never seen Hey.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You got Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
We're gonna do that tomorrow's episode, so we'll get to
that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Hang On's hope you enjoyed our buddy Bruce Feldman as
we look at some of the craziness of the college
coaching carousel. We'll see you next time. Right here on,
move the sticks.
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky, and our good
friend Bruce Feldman is joining us. Bruce, how you doing, Buddy?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Great? Good to be on with you guys. Great to
have you back.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Before we get into all.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's going on and the three coaches that still have
their jobs, how has your fall been?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
My fall has been good. Unlike the last couple of
years down the road with Big Noon, I'm in the
studio on Friday nights and all day Saturday with Chris
Peterson and Mike Hill and it's been a blast, you know,
and don't have to travel as much or at all,
and that part's been good, so I can't complain. And
it's been a fun season. A lot of craziness on
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the coaching carousel, as you guys know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But is this are we at the end, middle or
beginning of the craziness with the coaching carousel.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We're in the middle because there's been so many big
jobs that have come up open. But at the same time,
now we got to see who get who gets the jobs,
and that's why I think I don't want to say
we're at the beginning, but I definitely don't think we're
at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's so crazy, is so interesting. So from here you've
been in this world a long time. Like what do
people on insight say about the craziness that goes on
about the care sale, Like the coaches that are in
the middle of it, Like how do they handle the
heightened expectations and the shortened patients when it comes from.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The High East as it relates to job evaluation. Yeah, Bucky,
I think the thing that changed it as much as
anything is Kurt Signetti goes to Indiana. Hardly anybody outside
of like you know, small diehard football people knew who
he was, took over a three win team and a
year one he got him to the playoff. And year
two there's a bunch of people, myself included, who think
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he has a look a legit chance to win a
national title at Indiana. Now, it helped that he took
a bunch of really good players with him from James Madison.
But I think when people look and go, wait, that's
Indiana and he did this in a year, you have
no excuse. You know, in year four at LSU or wherever,
you know, whatever year it is, because you definitely have
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more history, you know, better stadium, better talent pool to
recruit to. And I think because of that, and people
look at the money involved with these coaching contracts and
I think, you know, kind of a subplot of this
is when you have like two or three coach agents
who represent almost the entire field, it makes it more complicated,
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right because I think the agents have so much more
leverage in this space than they do let's say, as
you know, you know agents would if you're a player.
It's just a much different dynamic. And I think because
of that, you comple all those things and there's just
not enough. There's just not enough candidates to fill the
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jobs now that are going to be open. And I
think what goes into it also is there's a bunch
of schools that are like, we can't hire that guy.
He's too he went from a small school, or that
guy feels kind of like this guy, even though they
probably have very little in common actually in how they are,
but just their profiles might be similar in terms of
they were a group of five guy where they came
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from this place. You know, it's just you're really trying
to threat a needle. I feel like if you're an
ad trying to do a coaching search, now there was.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A lot there, Bruce. The first thing I wanted to
hit on was the Indiana portion. So and people say, yeah,
they brought a lot of good players with him last year.
They had two draft picks, a fourth rounder and a
seventh rounder. So it wasn't like this, you know, some
of these other transfer portal years where we've seen I
go back all the way to the first one, which
was probably Michigan State, where it's just you know, you
get Kenneth Walker and like some you know, stud players
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that came in there. He's got some good players, but
obviously speaks to the coach that he is. And I
know they'll have more more picks in the years to
come here. But who is the I'm not gonna say
who the name of the coach that people are chasing,
but who is the profile that they're chasing? Is it
the trying to find the next Signette? Is that the
next Dan Lanning? Like what is the most popular profile
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that they're that they're looking for right now?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The bell of the ball on the coaching carousel's Lane
Kiffin right, because he's having success in the SEC. He
is an offensive guy. He's got a big social media presence.
Not to say that people are like, ooh, pining after that,
but fans want that that edge to them, you know,
especially if you're at Florida or at at LSU. I
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don't think it's much of a thing at Penn State,
but certainly all miss wants to keep him. But the
way you frame that question, I think there's a lot
of people who would love to get Dan Lanning, but
he's probably not leaving or again, you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Know, but not like I'm not saying like the coach itself,
but saying like, who is the next Dan? Are we
trying to find the next Dan Lanning? In other words,
an assistant that's he's at a high profile place. Are
we trying to find the next Signetti? Maybe someone who's
been a head coach but has been building up levels,
Like what is the profile not so much the person
the individual, but what's what's the popular profile or chase?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, I think if you're trying to build up like
there's a guy who replaced Signetti at James Madison, Bob Chesney,
he's spent you know, he's still in his mid forties,
but spent a long time as a head coach at
holy Cross, has done well, has done well at James Madison.
I suspect he will get a power for head coaching
job this cycle. He might get Virginia Tech if James
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Franklin doesn't want it. I don't know where else he
could be in play. I'm sure he'll get some consideration
for Penn State. He's a Pennsylvania native. It is a
big jump, but you know, Signette's off the board for them.
Matt Ruhle, who's close to the ADA at Penn State,
he's off the board. So they're gonna don't want to
say they're going to reach for somebody, but they're going
to probably hire somebody who definitely didn't win anywhere near
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as many games as James Franklin has at a high level.
So there's there's that In terms of the coordinators. You know,
will Stein is a name he's actually on Landing staff
that I think he will probably get a really good job.
I don't want to say sooner than later, because I
know he has a good job right now and I
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don't think he will be the guy who's going to
jump into just any group of five head coaching job.
But he was a former Louisville quarterback, then was a
Texas high school coach and did well at UTSA, and
now has done really well at Oregon. But he's younger,
and I think he knows all right. Am I going
to follow the Kenny Dillingham route? Well? Kenny Dillingham went
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to his alma mater, which is a which is still
a pretty big job, but it was down when he
took it at Arizona State. So I think will Stein
is one of those. Colin Klein obviously was a terrific
player in college. Now he's A and m's offensive coordinator.
He's definitely drawing a lot of interest. I don't know
if he ends up at Arkansas. I don't know if
he ends up at Oklahoma State, but I think those
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are places that are definitely looking closely at him, you know, Bruce.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's interesting because Mike Olko is getting a lot of
conversation right because he's at text In and I'm doing
a fantastic job with them, but they still feel like
he needs to level up. Like people are talking like
he needs to level up. Why would anyone want to
leave Texas a and M. When it appears they have all
the resources in the world to fund a championship run
year after year after year.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's a great question, right, because you got all those
things are true. But you know, when someone's first year there,
it was actually the first year they were in the SEC.
They finished top five and it was the first time
in a half a century that they did that. Like,
there's been just feels like a lot of underachieving at
A and M. Right, and then Jimbo went there and
there was one pretty good year, but the rest was
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a big disappointment. Elko is a Northeast guy from New Jersey,
did terrific at Duke and has done you know, and
I feel like this is just the beginning for him
at A and M. Like they've been super impressive. They
look I'd be curious what you guys think of this,
But just like sitting there watching games with coach Pete,
I'm like, man, they look like they're the fastest team
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on the field every Saturday. You know, you have a
quarterback that way, you have dynamic running backs and receivers
and they get after on defense. I could see Penn
State being a man. Could we get that guy? You
know like and he is a Northeast guy, and he
worked at Notre Dame as a defensive coordinators comme at
some high academic schools. So I think if you're a
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Penn State man, that would be a if you could
get him. I just don't know if you can get
him out of college station because they have a ton
of money. They obviously had enough money to throw that
money at Jimbo and then throw it even more when
they realize it wasn't going to work. I mean, when
nobody else thought you could, you could have such a
massive buyout and eat it. So I don't know. I mean,
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I don't know if he sits there and goes, you
know what, I'm pretty close to to maybe even this
year getting over the top, but next year will probably
only get better. So I don't know if he's if
he's movable, but I could see Penn State certainly being interested.
If I'm LSU, I'd be interested in them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I want to ask you about two guys who I've
never met. Either guy, but I've been impressed with the
jobs that they've done. And you do hear their names
Floater for some of these gigs. But Brent Key Clark Lee,
tell me about those two guys and what they you know,
the job that they've done, But what the the allure
would be for those guys for some of these huge jobs.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, what they have in common is they're both out
there alma maters and that that probably adds another piece
of whether you can get them out of those jobs.
But like in Brent Key's case, it's a cool story
where this guy, you know, was a Georgia Tech offensive
line guy. It was a long time Georgia O'Leary protege,
was at UCF. At one point we thought he was
going to be the next coach at UCF. That didn't
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work out. You know, he worked for Saban at Alabama,
he was the interim and then and at interim at
Georgia Tech and ended up they played so hard for him.
They you know, he got the job and he's done
really well. And he's got a quarterback in Haines King,
who by the way, started his career at A and
m coach's kid who seems to fit what they want right,
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And you just can't. You have to be impressed with
them if the first time you really paid attention to
them was when they were in like the fifteen overtime
game Thanksgiving weekend against Georgia, and they had George on
the ropes, you'd be like, all right, I'm I'm a believer.
Like he's made smart hires too, like his OC buster Faulkner,
who'd been a good OC at smaller schools and then
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was on Kirby's staff and kind of knew how to
kind of knew the secret to the sauce to like, oh,
what's going to give Kirby's defense some problems? Let's build
that And he did. So I think that that's a
really impressive deal that they have going there. And I
could see, you know, Penn State certainly will have interested
in him. I heard LSU does whether he wants to
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leave or they can get him to leave. That's another
story with Clark. Lee was the guy that you did
a really good job as a defensive coordinator. He ended
up getting the Vandy job, that's his alma maters from Nashville.
They chose him over Lance Lightpold, who had way more
experience as a head coach, and for a while it
looked like they chose raw because Lance Lightpold was working
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miracles at Kansas and Clark Lee had a couple of
two win seasons, but then he made a really shrewd
move by hiring Jerry Kill and Tim Beck from New
Mexico State. They told him, hey, we got this quarterback who, Yeah,
you might not think he looks like much, but he's
special and Diego Povey is absolutely that And it was
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a program changing move. And I think they made some
other really shrewd evaluations, not just in players but in staff.
And it's worked and they have a chance to be
a playoff team. What I think there will be a
little bit of, you know, wonder about is how much
is this is pave in the New Mexico State guys.
Are we going to be able to recreate this going forward?
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And I don't know the answer to that, but I
know this, like, they are a legit threat to make
the playoffs this year, and they got a lot better,
and I think he's created a really good culture. And
you know, I think, as a college football fan without
a dog in the fight, you're kind of hoping these
guys stay where they're at because I just think it's
good for the good of the sport. When when you
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see that as opposed to oh, they just I want
to say, chase them more, the more money, but go
for go for that as opposed to like, hey, this
is their schools. They've they care about it, they're invested
in it, and they can build something that. You know,
Georgia Tech won a national title like probably before Bucky
was in the end. No no, no, no right.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No no no no, no no no no doing that national
title year the only team that they could not be
with a North Carolina tour. We tied them that year
because they were chars and couldn't go for it. I
think it was ten ten my freshman year, my richter
for my sophomore year. Yeah, so no, I know all
about it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Ramlin Wreck from Georgia Tech. I was trying to give
you credit for being younger than that, but you know,
but you have a humble brag that you've earned, so
we'll go there. But yeah, it's it's been a minute
for the Yellow Jackets, whereas Vandy, except for like a
couple of years when James Franklin was there, has been
atrocious and He's and Clark Lee's made him relevant.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I want to continue that thought you mentioned, James Franklin.
I want to ask you questions about that, we'll take
a break. We'll come right back with Bruce Feldon. All right, Bruce,
you mentioned James Franklin. It seems like I don't know
if if you've reported this out there, but that all
the buzz seems to be Virginia Tech. If he wants
that it's his, But then you know, is he's sitting
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there waiting for Florida to see what you know, what
happens there, or is Florida State gonna pop or any
other changes that might happen. I'm not gonna ask you
where he's gonna go. I was just gonna ask you,
someone who's followed James Franklin, who's had a lot of success,
where do you think the best fit for James Franklin is?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think it might be Virginia Tech, to be honest.
And that's like he's kind of on the clock from
what I've heard in our reporting that and I don't
know if he has through the weekend. And then if
it's like, hey, are you waiting on Florida State, because
that's what it sounds like he's doing, is do they
fire Mike Norvell at Florida State. It's definitely a bigger
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job than the one in Blacksburg, but I think he's
got a lot of connections around there. His right hand guy,
Michael Hazel, who was with him at Penn State and
then went with with Brent Pride to Blacksburg. He knows
the lay of the land and has more intel on
what's the job really like in Blacksburg than probably any
coach will have it. It's a pretty good job. It's
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is it a great job? I mean, at one point
it was under Frank Beemer, but I think because he
had put so much into it. I don't know if
if you're James, do you sit there and go Okay?
If I don't jump on this job because I want
to see what's going to happen at Florida State, and
if it doesn't open up, well Maryland, where I used
to work, might open up. I'm in the big ten
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because there's definitely pressure on Mike Loxley. From what I've heard.
You know, they're on a big losing streak and they
actually have a really good freshman class in College Park.
I don't know if you can keep them. The quarterbacks good,
the edge rushers are really good. But I think that's
what makes it so hard as you're trying to figure
out where the dominoes are going to fall. And going
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from Penn State where he built it up and the
expectations were crazy, I just think those other jobs. I'm
not saying there's not any pressure in Blacksburg, there's not
any pressure to be in the football coach at Maryland
Florida State is a different animal. But that might be
a place where he could thrive, you know, because we
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know he can recruit and we know he can develop
really good athletes and really good players. The question was
always like with the exception when Joe Morehead was the
offensive coordinator when Tracey McSorley, who he did about who
did bring with him? You know, he was from basically
his recruiting class at Vandy, but like they didn't. It's
been kind of under really underwhelming at quarterback for him,
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you know, over the previous decade or so there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Versus I got to ask you because we're on the
West coast and Ashley, we'll get to UCLA. But I've
never seen this happen before. How does the interim coach
get fired after one game at Oregon State? Like, how
does it even happen that you're the interim coach and
after one game you get let go. I've never seen
that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, I think when dysfunction breeds dysfunction, right, that's the
best way I could say it. And you know, right now,
I definitely feel for the both those programs, one in
Corvallis and one in Polman, just because you kind of
got left, you know, out of countryside. Yeah, And I
think it's hard with the players and hard, you know,
like Jake Dickert did a really good job in Pullman
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to keep it together before ultimately he bailed to go
to Wake Forest, which is not an easy job either.
But I just think that that's the challenge, especially if
you're in core ballas you got, like Jonathan Smith's there
and it's a Zama mater and then even he's like
and everything was good until it was like I can't
do this anymore. And then he goes to East Lansing
and now it's like they don't want him there, so
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he hasn't been there two years. It's just that's kind
of the nuttiness of college football right now.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I want to see, real quick, we'll hit a couple
player questions and let's just scoot. But quarterback wise, Dante
Moore and Mendoza, what are some of the maybe the
personality or character stuff on those guys. We've seen the
play that they've had this year at Oregon and at
Indiana and the job they've done. But two guys which
we see almost all the time now, didn't start there,
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have gone from a different come from a different school.
But what have you learned about those guys, maybe more
so as people than what we've seen as players.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Mendoza I think came into the year with, you know,
more of a track record because he played a lot
more than he was older, and I think he won
over some people. Well, I'll be honest, there's still a
handful of people I talked to who are there's stuff
they aren't that thrilled with about him, you know, and
maybe they're wrong, but I think there's still a little
bit of hesitation on him. Yeah. He he probably makes
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enough plays with his legs, and I think they do
a good job with that. I don't think he's Josh
Allen athletically or anything close, but he's able to be
more effective with his legs than I think people initially
would have given him credit for. You know, how he
is as a leader. I mean again, this is his
first year in the system. There, I think that's a
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little TBD of how he fits in the locker room
kind of thing. But he's been very impressive. You know,
you look at the drive last week against Penn State.
Penn State still has some really good defensive players, and
he gets sacked on the it's allowed as a massive
you know, three and five or three and six or not.
When that place is rocking, I don't care if they're
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they're you know, six and three, three and six. That
was a loud Hey we're gonna get We're going to
take down a top five team here. And Zaine Durant,
who's an explosive edge rusher, sacks him the first play
and all of a sudden like ooh, it's bad, and
then he leads him downfield. His receiver, Omark Cooper Junior,
makes an amazing catch, you know, to cap off the drive.
But he made a couple of really good throws on
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that drive. And he also I give him this. When
they were at Oregon, he threw a pick six and
I felt like, oh, here it goes. They're gonna lose
this game, and they didn't. I mean it wasn't just him,
but he played a big role in it. So, like
I said, I've I've heard from you know, people inside
football who were just kind of like, not huge believers.
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It's not super twitched up.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I mean, I think that might be one kind of
the little bit of the knocks there.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, And I think that I think there's a little
maybe a little other some hesitation, you know, if you
ask people that may come up in the combine. Nothing
nothing like oh his resume wise or legal wise, just
like maybe the yel of how he fits kind of
things maybe gives some people some pause. With Dante Moore
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way less sample size, he's much younger. Unfair to say this,
but like when he played against Penn State again, Penn
State has some athletes on defense, I was like, ooh,
and it was on the road. He was much more
athletic and made more plays with his legs than I
(20:26):
think myself and a lot of people expected because he's
not a dynamic He's not Jackson Dart or anything like that,
or certainly not Lamar, but his arm talent's high, high level.
You saw that he made one great throw last week
to get to beat Iowa. It was an amazing throw
and that's what he can do. You know, everything I've
(20:47):
heard from people I trust inside Oregon is he's not
coming out. He doesn't. He wants to. He saw the
Jalen Jaden Daniel's path and not that he plays like
Jayden in terms of like dynamic dual threat guy, but like,
I'm to keep getting better, I'm going to get a
lot of reps. And I think that's what he does.
And I think he stays next year. And look, I
think Oregon's going to make a big financial commitment to
make sure he can do that without much hesitation. So
(21:12):
wouldn't be shocked if he was a top five pick
in the twenty twenty seven NFL draft. I mean, arm
talent's high, high level, and I just think physically he'll
just keep getting stronger. And you know, again, there's not
like I don't think he's like a super twitchy athlete,
but he's you know again, it's unfair to say he
could be CJ. Shroud, but you know.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Cej had some smoothness to him like Stroud from what
I've seen of him too, kind of remind me a.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Little he does, and he's I feel like, you know,
Bucky You know c J. Stroud party better than anybody
I know because you coached him at a young age.
Like ce Strout was obviously a really good basketball player
and he was super accurate. I don't know if Dante's
as athletic, but he's also like I don't know anybody
looked at CJ and was like, oh, yeah, he's going
to really beat you with his legs at that point.
But he against Georgia, he gave them problems with his
(22:01):
athleticism and it was like it's there, he just doesn't
He just didn't want to break the glass on it
too often. And credit to him because you know it
was there when he needed but he didn't want to
major in it. I think Dante's like that too, but
probably not as athletic.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know, the name that pops up as the little
engine that could has certainly been the kid at Alabama
Tyd Simpson. What do you know about him? Like, just
what has been the story? Why has he been able
to kind of pop this year for killing the boy?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Uh? Coaches kid? You know his coaches as a high
level FCS coach who's developed a lot of guys and
I think his he's made dramatic improvement from last year
to this year and really from the spring till now
in terms of like what can he do? Like when
(22:48):
you talk to Ryan Grubb, it was like mid spring,
it was like not smooth. All of a sudden, Now
it's like he's cut it loose and he is playing
at an incredibly high level. And it's not like they
have a run game to help them out. Now they
do have good dynamic receivers, but I think Grub was
obviously the guy who helped Washington get to the National
title game with Michael Pennix junior, And there's a little
(23:12):
bit of similarities there, you know, I mean, good receivers
and a high level passing game and a guy who's
playing with a ton of confidence. That's great stuff. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Last one, Bruce, I'll let you're on. We want to
circle back to coaches real quick, and let's go instead
of going, you know, at the college level, let's look
at what could potentially go on at the NFL level
if we you know, we're gonna have NFL openings. You
already have some out there. So when you look into
the future, is there a college coach that you see,
You know, there's been rumors with Sark, There's been rumors
(23:43):
with Lane. There's been even some talk Kirby maybe wanting
to take on another challenge. Do you see any of
these college guys leveling up when we get this NFL cycle?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
The one that might I could see somebody looking at
and he's been in the NFL before. Maybe somebody kicks
the tires on Lane. Do you have interest? Is this
the situation you would want? Lane's gonna have some stuff
to think about with the way things are going in
Old Miss. Obviously Florida, maybe lsu are gonna it's definitely
Florida would be, you know, come after him. But he's
got a good situation in Old Miss. You know, I'd
(24:13):
heard there was like a legit interest from the giants
in Marcus Freeman, but I also heard from people around
Marcus Freeman that he did not have any interest and leaving,
So you know, Lane would be the one. And I
think one thing to keep in mind is guys who've
never been in the NFL, like we we definitely learned this.
(24:34):
If you didn't learn it by then with Urban, like
if you've never been in the NFL, and oh, it
is such a different animal, especially because It's like you
think you know a lot when you actually know don't
know anything right when it comes to that world, like
Harball different. Harbough's been fifteen years as a player. I
think he was on the Raider staff for a minute
and then when he goes to the Niners, he crushes it,
(24:55):
you know. And Pete Carroll, you know, obviously people know
him from USC but he was an NFL assistant for
a long time before he came back. So I just
think it's like the guys who have profile too, he's yeah.
I mean, he wasn't a great offense coordinated with the Falcons,
but he was there for a couple of years. You know.
My hunch on Sark is that if he has interest,
(25:17):
it's not going to be for this year. I think
he knows he has a roster that should be even
better next year. The whole offense or most of the
offense should come back. It'd be year two for arch
in the system, a lot of the offensive line be
year two for them. And the other part of that
for him is he would you know, I like, his
(25:37):
best defensive player is an edge rusher who can't come
out till twenty twenty seven, So maybe you just like
push pause. And I've always heard he wants to win
a national title of Texas and probably has a better
chance of doing that next year than he does this year.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Last guy John summerl from Tulane kind of has a
little bit of age to him. I would think that
he would be a natural fit at LSU. I know
they they're aiming maybe for a bigger fish. Talk a
little bit about the two lane coach. Yeah, I think
he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That if you don't know him and you spend ten
minutes talking to him, you like, ooh, I like that guy.
He's a dude, you know it was a former SEC linebacker,
was a former SEC assistant coach at Old Miss in Kentucky.
Everybody who's around him comes away Raving did a really
good job at at Troy, has done a good job
at Tulane. I think he will probably be offered the
(26:28):
Auburn job at some point. You know, he's an Alabama native.
You know. I there's no job in college football that
I'm like, you know what, I wouldn't you know if LSU.
I don't think they would hire the two lane coach
just for the optics of the money. People at Tulane
would be uncomfortable with that. But you better, you better
(26:48):
get a really good coach if you if you don't
think that guy fits the profile of what you want,
like like he's one who if who. I think if
they get in the room with him him, they may
change their mind. You know, again, he doesn't have He
is a pretty good team at TWU Lane. You don't
have a great team. You know. They'll probably go nine
(27:09):
to three, maybe ten and two. I don't know if
they can sneak in the playoff. They had the bad
loss on Thursday night, on a Thursday night against UTSA.
But I just think he is the guy who one
of those guys who has like rising star coach written
all over him.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, I've been impressed with what I've seen of him.
I said that was done. But on this week one
last final one, young Lincoln Riley, do you buy any
of that chatter?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't. I just you know, I know his family
really likes it out here, and I don't think he's
going to like just give away a ton of money.
You know, is he going to go to Stillwater. It's
not like the job at his alma mater is going
to be open. Joey maguire may get a top five
finish in the you know spot in the playoff bracket
at Texas Tech. So I don't, you know, I don't
(27:58):
know what what Lincoln's move would be like. He's also
got like his best recruiting class.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
On the whole come in thet most of the team,
if the quarterback comes back too. They've got a lot
of good young players on that team. Freshman and sophomore
is playing a lot of minutes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
They do, you know Again, Like everything I've heard is
that his family really likes it out here. I just
think you've been through a couple of years. I don't
know what his next move would be like, but I
think he has a better chance of having a playoff
team in twenty twenty twenty six. I mean, they still
have a chance to get in there this year. I
don't think they will, but like it was a step
(28:34):
in the right direction. So let's see what, you know,
what he can do right now, because I don't know
if there's a lot of people already out on Lincoln
around USC anyway, But that doesn't mean, you know, if
he gets more players and continues to upgrade him with
a lot of playmakers. I mean, it's pretty amazing what
they've been able to do. The top two running backs
(28:55):
are out and King Miller's a walk on running back
who has been amazing for them. And I think that
piece of it has been really impressive because I knew
Mikhaia Lemon and Jacobe Lane are pretty special, but to
see what they've done in the run game given all
the injuries, is you know, he deserves credit for that.
That that was not something a lot of people saw coming. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I envy the money that Cam Come was gonna get
USC next year. The kids from Auburn got Lee, get
somebody you can throw that guy at the football's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Too good looking at.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
An athlete to be sitting out there, or the team
that can't throw throw the football. All right, Bruce, you
are the best brother. We appreciate your time, man, and
we'll get you on here again soon.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
My pleasure. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
All right, Buck, there he goes. Bruce is very generous
this time. We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That yeah, that Auburn receiver. Man, he's like the A. J.
Brown of college football. Man like.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Man, he just wants to feel. A J.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Brown is some interesting yeah, I understand Tracy, but I've
never seen Hey.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You got Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
We're gonna do that tomorrow's episode, so we'll get to
that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Hang On's hope you enjoyed our buddy Bruce Feldman as
we look at some of the craziness of the college
coaching carousel. We'll see you next time. Right here on,
move the sticks.
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