September 7, 2023 • 26 mins
Mike and Wes provide a final preview for the opener at Chicago, examining the Packers’ injury situation at wide receiver (:34) and the potential opportunities for others, including WR Samori Toure (5:44). They also discuss the keys to victory, first on defense (11:07) and then on offense (19:09).
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
by the one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to
you hear from our studios at lambeau Field, Wes. It's
almost here. Packers Bears Week one at Soldier Field in Chicago.
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Kickoff will be three twenty five pm on Sunday afternoon
Central Time. And normally when we get to this part
of the week and it's week one heading into the
season opener, you like to talk about how healthy the
team is and how you know everybody got through training
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camp in great shape. And well that's not the case
for the Green Bay Packers at one position in particular.
And of course I'm talking about wide receiver because at
the time that we are taping this, which is Thursday morning,
at Wednesday's practice, both Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs were
out with hamstring injuries. Dontavian Wicks, the rookie fifth round
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pick who had missed the back half of training camp
with a hamstring injury. He's still on the injury report
with that injury, but he was back practicing on a
limited basis. But regardless, what the Packers' receiving corps is
going to look like on Sunday afternoon in Chicago is
a bit of a question mark.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It is, Michael, and obviously that was a surprise for
a lot of folks. When we go out to practice,
you know that Romeo Dobbs have been missing some time
with the hamstring, and then you you group Watson into
that conversation as well. The thing, I selfishly for them,
even let's say they'd be able to play on Sunday,
I just hate that both of those guys, who had
such good off seasons had put their best foots forward.
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I think Romeo has been such a consistent presence. You
certainly seen the dynamic deep threat that Christian Watson provides.
You just wanted to be able to see them get
out on the field full go one hundred. Let's see
how this all plays out. And unfortunately, even if they're
able to play, they're probably gonna be somewhat compromised. But
it's a difficult, tricky thing for the Green Bay Packers
right now because you have to navigate what your plan
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is going to be and how you're gonna go about
handling it. The one thing. Again, this is a very
small silver lining, but this was Wednesday's practice. So it
tells you that the Green Bay Packers went into Wednesday knowing, okay,
Christian Watson's and they're probably not going to go today
for whenever it happened, probably not going to be out there.
So the coaching staff at least has been able to
adapt to that, make their adjustments and put together a
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plan that can win here for Jordan Love and this
young offense.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, and as much as the Packers want to start
fast this season, obviously, you want to do everything you
can to win the game on Sunday in Chicago, this
issue with Watson that they have to be really careful
because we saw what happened last year. He was dealing
with a hamstring injury early in the year. Then he
got back into action, but then the hamstring cropped up
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again midway through the game in London, and then he
was out again for a while, and then in the
second half of his rookie season. We obviously saw what
Christian Watson brings to this offense, but because of the
the on again, off again, you know, dealing with with
the hamstring issue last year, we didn't really see what
everybody was hoping from Christian Watson until the calendar got
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much later in the season. So the Packers now have
that history, they understand what happened last year. That will
all be taken into account in terms of moving forward here.
But what this does on Sunday in Chicago is creates
an even brighter spotlight than was already going to be
on two rookies that we knew were going to be
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significant parts of this Packers offense. With Jordan Love at
quarterback and I'm talking about the two second round picks
Jaden Reid at wide receiver more so slot receiver most likely,
but then also Luke Musgrave at tight end. If each
of those guys was expecting maybe four or five targets
from Jordan Love in this game, maybe double that head
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heading into Sunday, We'll just have to see.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And the creativity that the Packers coaching staff is gonna
have to come up with. It isn't when you say target,
it's it's not just pass targets, right, it's right end
to rounds, it's push passes, it's other things that they
can do at this offense. You know how much pony
are we going to see with Aaron Jones and aj
Dillon out of the backfield too. What I like about
it though, is both Reed and Musgrave were thrown into
the deep end right off the bat. These aren't guys
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that just sort of crept up and kind of got
their way into the starting lineup like a Malik Heath
did during the last week of training camp. No, for
the most part, they've been running with the one since
day one of the offseason program. They understood what was
going to be asked of them. The thing I'm really
excited to watch this season, looking specifically at Luke Musgrave,
is the tight end in this offense in the Jordan
Love era. Very very small sample size with Jordan Love
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so far, but he has a knack for finding his
tight ends. He had a little bit of a rapport
going on with Josiah Deguara before in the past. We've seen,
you know, Musgrave gets five receptions during the preseason during
his limited amount of work. The tight end is going
to be a focal point of the passing game here,
and I think having two guys with Reed and Musgrave
that can attack the middle of the field, especially when
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you get Dobbs and Watson out there. It can be
a real catalyst for this unit because you saw the
stretch plays, you saw the nineteen yard touchdown in the preseason,
you know, coming on the crosser like Jaden Reid did.
They're going to challenge the eyes and the integrity of
opposing secondaries. And watching those two guys work off of
each other, I think is gonna be really exciting here
this first season.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, you mentioned the five reception Musgrave had in the preseason.
He was also targeted on some other passes as well.
You know, we saw Jordan Love certainly looking to him
when he was in there in the preseason games. If
Watson and or Dobbs cannot go in this game, you're
looking at a bigger opportunity for Samai Toure, who suddenly
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you know, he could be the most experienced wide receiver
the Packers have on the field on Sunday. Heath the
undrafted rookie from Mississippi. You know, throw him in there
as well, and we'll see what happens with with don
Tavian Wix. He is at least practicing on a limited basis,
and he was running with the ones in training camp
at times before the hamstring injury cropped up with him.
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But I was what was interesting to me in going
through kind of all the notes and the interviews and
everything that was going on in the locker room after
practice on Wednesday, and then I wrote a story on
our website, you know, kind of outlining what's going on
at the receiver position is you know, big crowd gathers
around Samorri Tour, a bunch of cameras, and the questions
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are firing, and you know, we've talked about, you know,
the poise, the you know, calm, cool, collected, Jordan love
Samai Toure did not look bothered in one bit by
all this attention that was coming his way and what
might be a big opportunity for him on Sunday. To me,
he looks like a young man who has a lot
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more experience then he actually got as a rookie last year.
He looks like he's ready for whatever comes his way up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think people forget that this guy was right along
with Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs in the journey of
development last year. Now, he didn't get as many in
game opportunities as his two you know, draft classmates, but
he's seen some stuff over his time, and he was
a season college athlete. I mean you look at his
time at Montana, he was the go to guy, and
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then he ends up at Nebraska. A lot of people wondering, Okay,
can this FCS kid do anything here? He ends up
being their leading receiver. I wrote in the off season,
I know you and I have talked about it too.
He has succeeded at every level of football he's played,
regardless of what people have thought about it. But what
you were over in the Milie Heath huddle too. What
stands out to me the most, and it goes back
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to something Samori said when I asked him about the
collective you know group and how they've kind of grown
together here is whatever the outside perception is of their inexperience,
there isn't that expectation and theo they look at. Maybe
it's because they all were pretty much star college focal
points for their respective teams.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, they've been the guy. They've been the guy, just
not at this level.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You think Malik Heath is getting nervous about having to
play on Sunday, I mean, listen to Malik Heath talk.
I mean, this is a guy that has done it
at every level. Four star recruit you know, was that
Mississippi old miss Mississippi State. He's ready for it. He's
had you remember talking to him during the final week
of camp saying he's talked to Elton Jenkins and Preston
Smith about, you know, coming to this league and what
it takes to succeed. All these guys are ready for it.
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The biggest challenge is going to be what they're seeing
lined up across from them. When you see you know,
Johnson and these other defensive backs and Eddie Jackson hovering
over the back end. Yeah, that's going to be the
challenge winning those opportunities. But in terms of that atmosphere
at Chicago inside Soldier Field, I don't think these guys
are wavering at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
When I think back to SAMAI two Ray's rookie season,
I think of two plays I think of that. I
think of that touchdown catch in Buffalo which actually occurred
right in the end zone that was in front of us.
Well one we get to see, yeah, where the press
box was in Buffalo, that that was right below us there.
And then the fourth down catch in Detroit that that
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kept the Packers, you know alive for what they were
hoping was going to be a game winning scoring drive
there at the end, he's you know, he's had he
you know, didn't have many, but he had some big
moments as as a rookie, and I think he's a
young man who will step up to the challenge. I
want to get to our keys to victory, as we
like to do at the end of the week, but
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Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm gonna break down the fourth wall really quickly here.
I'm going to welcome people into our world. On Fridays,
occasionally we get free lunches. It's a real big boom,
you know. For me. Yeah, I used to when I
worked in the newspaper, used to get pizza on election night.
But it's neat on Fridays, we get free lunches every
once in a while. Mike, you've worked here now for
fifteen years. Has there been a greater advindition?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Actually? But who's who's counting?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Who's counting? Right?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I think in pension terms, it's like, well, as long
as you hit the pension.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You're get to fifteen years. We're good, right, But.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
In all your time working here, has there been a
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Speaker 1 (10:30):
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they can come. They don't just have to come on Fridays.
They can come any day an they want ask me.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But and again this is not on the script. I
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they're just like, oh, let's put all these subs together,
just shove them out the door. Best catered sub on
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on the side.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I know, I know on the side. That's that's
that's huge, that's huge for you. Wes. You don't you
like to take care of that yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like, do you like to eat a sandwich that's been
sitting in Mayo for two and a half days.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No, no, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can you tell him ready for a week one? Let's
talk to keys victory?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
All right, Keys to victory? Young man? Where does I'll
let you decide where you want to start. If you
want to start on the offensive side of the defensive
side for the Packers, what is forefront in your mind
as a key to victory for the Packers on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Defense? Defense, defense, defense, It really is. I mean, you
go back to the first game of Matt Lafleur's time
here and he always talks about how this season kind
of reminds him of that. Well, how did that season start?
It didn't start with Aaron Rodgers throwing for four hundred
yards and five touchdown, right. It was a knockdown, drag
out war at Soldier Field between those two teams. And
that's why I think it's ultimately going to take Packers
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certainly want to score more than ten points, but I
think it's going to come down to this scheme. This
defense in neutralizing justin Field's the best that they may
Packers have actually had quite a bit of success against
fields Joe Berry's had some really smart game plans for
how they've defended him. But you know that Lukeetzi and
the coaches over on Chicago side, they're looking at Justin
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Fields now, year three. What can we do with this
kid that we couldn't do three and sixty five days ago.
What areas of his game has he grown in that
we can make him a viable threat against this defense? Certainly,
rushing to contain, I think is such an integral part
of this. You can't get greedy, you can't get out
of your gaps, because the thing is the kid's not
just fast, he's explosive too. He's not easy to take down. Yeah,
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that's going to be the ultimate challenge for Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah. To me, this as a week one game, and
with everything that's been discussed with regards to the Packers defense,
this sets up as a as a really interesting challenge
because we've heard so much. We've talked so much about
the Packers defense having a more aggressive mentality, Right, that's
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what we've heard from the players, That's what we've heard
from Joe Barry. But yet in this one, this one
is going against a quarterback like Justin Fields. This is
you know, if I can still call somebody like this
a non traditional quarterback in the NFL. When you rush
for one thousand yards in the n exactly eleven hundred
yard rusher for a quarterback, that's still that's still non traditional.
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That's unusual. This this is a This isn't about aggression.
This is about discipline. This this game, this game is
going to be about the discipline of the rush lanes
being able to contain him in the pocket. I mean,
just just look at the game last year, and it
was in December. It was when Justin Fields was starting,
even though the Bears weren't getting wins. You look at
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Justin fields statistics. Statistically the second half of last year,
he was way better than he was in the first half.
Things were starting to come around for him and Luke
Getzi's offense and all this what happened early in the game,
he gets loose for a fifty plus yard touchdown run.
Later in the game, when the Packers made him throw
the football, he threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter.
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You know, and I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't better,
things aren't going to change, but that was just last December.
You go into this game. That's the formula for beating
these guys. You at least have to make Justin Fields
prove that he can beat you with his arm before
you let him beat you with his legs. And in
order to do that, it's all about discipline. The guys
up front, whether it's Preston Smith, Kenny Clark, or Sean Gary,
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Lucas Fanas, whoever it is. They can't be worried about,
you know, how many sacks they're going to be talking
about with reporters like after the game. What they have
to be concerned about is how many rushing yards are
they going to be talking about that Justin Fields ends
up within this game, because I think that's the entire
key for Chicago to get a win.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, And if you think of the preseason, Mike, obviously
you ever take all of it with a grain of salt,
But think about the steady pass rush that the Packers
ended up having throughout the preseason, right, they had some
pretty good pressure on the opposing quarterback. I think they
might have had two sacks. I think Kingsley aene Bari's
two sacks in that one game where all they had
for the button. Yeah, Yeah, Brenton Cox made this roster
based on how we pressure the quarterback, how he collapse
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the pocket. That's the big one here. You know there's
gonna be opportunities to get sacks, There's gonna be opportunities
to make your money. Absolutely, but this is one of
those where it takes a group, absolutely team oriented thought
process in order to succeed against a dangerous quarterback like this, Because, honestly,
Mike line up the rest of it. I don't know
how they'll defend Chicago. But Dj Moore really super talented receiver,
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legitimate number one lined up against joy R Alexander. I
feel okay about that, right. Chase Claypool lined up against
Rasul Dougley's you feel fine about it. Darnell Mooney, big
matchup inside against Keyshawn Nixon, Devondre Campbell going up against
Cole Comet. There's a lot to like in terms of
how Green Bay matches up defensively. I agree, But where
is the question mark? It's at that quarterback position. It's
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the one that is normally not accounted for. Are you
spying him? Are you watching your edges? What is the plan?
The packers have a plan. Very curious to see how
they can go about executing him.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and the other key defensively in this game for
the Packers, and it's always the biggest wild card and
weak one for any defense, Right, it's tackling. And it's
not just about tackling justin fields when you know when
he decides to take off and run and all that
kind of stuff. But this Bears offense, they like to
throw the ball horizontally. They like to do bubble screens,
they like to throw traditional screens. They like to you know,
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throw the checkdowns to the running backs, those guys who
get the ball in some open space. The Packers have
to be able to make the tackle, don't let the miss,
don't let misstackles, then rupture into the big plays because
that's what that's what the Bears are counting on. That's
the Chicago Bears' biggest highlight from the preseason was a
bubble screen that DJ Moore took eighty yards or whatever
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to the house. Right, you have to be able to
make tackles on these guys because they are counting on
their short, simple plays at some point rupturing into a
big one that's going to shift the momentum and get
and get things on their side, and tackling is a
huge wildcard in Week one. Now, the Packers obviously, you know,
played their starters at least a few series here, and
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they're in the preseason, so they're going into this Week
one a little bit differently than they have in previous ones,
but still sixty seventy seventy five plays whatever. It's going
to be, first game of the season, all the tackles
that have to be made. You never quite know what
you have defensively until you're forced to make those plays.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
When you said all those words there, when you talked
about the screens, that word I thought of a different word. Space. Yeah,
it's all about space. And Luke Getzi is a disciple
of both Mike McCarthy and Matt Lafleur. He had to
taste the both worlds, and I think what you've seen
with him is understanding who his quarterback is. That's obviously
the starting point, but where you build out the offense
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from the rest of it, there are a lot of parallels.
It's a much different offense than what Green Bay runs,
but the overall simplification, if you bring it all down
to it, it comes down to making guys get the
ball in their hands and allow them to make plays.
I think that's why DJ Moore so excited about this opportunity.
It's going to put him in a position to make plays.
Chase Claypool did not get off to a strong start
last year, seeing how he rebounds from that. Darnell Mooney
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took a step back last year from his breakout year
of the year before, seeing how he responds to that
as well. And Juice Herbert now being the featured guy
in the backfield with no more David Montgomery, even though
they were without him several times because of injuries, still
he's the guy back there. Now, what does he do
with that opportunity. I just feel like for as much
expectation as there is on this Bears team, because honestly,
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you've got to get off the basement floor. If with
that fan base, there still are a lot of question
marks and how it all ultimately comes together. But those
type of playmakers, that type of athleticism, you get them
up in the space, it's easy for us to say,
go tackle them, Yeah, but it's not always that simple.
That's why hats to the ball matter, and that's why
integrity matters.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, and you said it hats to the ball because
it can't just be on one guy to have to
make those tackles all the time. It has to be
multiple guys getting to the ball so that if a
tackle is slipped, there's somebody right there to help clean
it up. That's what good defenses do, and that's what
That's what we saw the Packers working on the way
they ran drills, the way they did things in warm
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ups and everything else throughout the pre throughout training camp,
in the preseason. That's how they did things. So now
it has to it has to translate into this game.
In Week one, on the offensive side for Green Bay,
we talked about the injuries, the uncertainty at wide receiver.
It certainly shifts the the focus perhaps even you know,
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more so than it would have been already, on how
the Packers are going to be able to run the football.
With Aaron Jones with AJ Dillon, you know you've set
up before yourself. Those two running backs can you know,
can be a new quarterback's best friend, right, And the
Packers like what they have up front with their offensive line.
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They you know, we know that Matt Lafleur likes to
do a lot of misdirection in the running game and
then run play action off of that misdirection stuff. You know,
I mean all all those kinds of things. But the
only way that that stuff works is if you can
line up and run the ball consistently and efficiently, because
then everything else works off of that. And given the Packers'
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situation at wide receiver going into this game, perhaps it's
even more paramount that this ground game establish what it
needs to be.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm so excited for this offensive line in this game.
You know, being able to see David Bakhtiari Nelton Jenkins
back together. We saw it at the end of last season.
But having that unification there, in my opinion, pound for pound,
the best left side in the game right now. I'm
over the moon about what the possibilities can be. You
have to go out and earn it. You have to win.
You have to be able to run the ball when
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they know that you're going to be running the ball.
But being dominant in the trenches I think is going
to be important in this game. Give Aaron Jones and
ag Dillon those opportunities. I thought aj Dillon ran the
ball really well in the preseason. He even talked about
it yesterday in the locker room when we were in there.
You know, he probably got more preseason reps this year
than he's gotten maybe ever, thinking that twenty twenty there
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was no preseason right rookie season when he might have
been more in line for something like that. So he
feels like that was actually good to kind of get
that wear and tear on him a little bit and
feeling good right now, but being able to at least
get some of those bumps in.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, he ran the ball hard, but let's be honest, Mike.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We can talk misdirection, we can talk concepts, we can
talk scheme, whatever you want to do. There's two things
that this boils down to for the Packers offense, protecting
the football and penalties. Matt Lafleur's teams excel in both areas.
When they win football games, they win the turnover margin,
they play clean football, staying out of unfavorable situations. That's
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going to be allow you to keep running the ball right,
making sure that you don't give up the ball, and
in favorable situations for your defense. Those are all gonna
be the keys to this thing. And I feel like
if Jordan Love in this scheme they can go in there.
This is going to sound really bad, but punting is
not always the worst thing. And I just feel like
if Green Bay can control the field, position, control the
pace of this game, they are the more talented team.
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It's just making sure you eliminate as many mistakes as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, well, you mentioned the twenty nineteen opener, Matt Lafleur's
first game as head coach. That was at Soldier Field
and was that defensive slugfest. Ten to three was the
final score. The Packers did just find protecting the football
in that game, but that entire game they were behind
the sticks offensively. It was whether it was you know,
penalties or negative yardage plays or whatever. And that's what
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you have to stay away from because they only scored
ten points in that game because of a lot of
self inflicted stuff that just they put themselves in positions
that were really really hard to convert, but the defense
held up its end to be able to get that win.
So you know, Matt Lafleur knows all about that experience
in in a week one game at Soldier Field, and
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that's what they'll be looking to avoid. For me, the
I'm I'm curious to see just you know, you mentioned
it earlier, what's known as the Pony package, which is
when both aj Dillon and Aaron Jones are on the
field together with the situation now at wide receiver, what
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might we see in the in the creative realm from
Matt lafleur from offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich with regard to
the running backs and how they're used in this game.
You know, I guess color me curious as to as
to maybe what, you know, what might be you know,
pulled out of that grab bag as they get ready
to play on Sunday, just in case they need something
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for a little change up or something for a little
spark or whatever. Offensively, if there is something like that
that they're going to go to, I think it's gonna
involve one of the running backs.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Do you see what Atlanta's doing down right, what they're
doing this year? No, so they're calling Corterell Patterson a
joker now in b Jhon Robinson's the starting running back. Okay, so,
but they're given it's almost kind of a takeoff Pony
a little bit, but using it more as like the
base personnel on a depth chart, so to speak. I
feel like, that's one of the things that Green Bay
really can to do. You know I want to see
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more of this year is let's get as creative as
possible with Aaron Jones. Let's get him catching passes, Let's
get him out of the backfield, let's get him on
bubble screens, Let's do all that stuff. And have you
know AJ Dillon as your prototypical starting running back. Sure,
I'm really excited to see what those two guys can
do off each other. There's gonna be some pre pre
snap action motion, you know, with Red or with Jones,
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and being able just to challenge the eyes of a
defense I think is going to be really important because ultimately,
that's what it comes down to. Yes, you want to
get your best eleven players on the field, but it's
how can we use two hundred and eight pound five
foot nine Aaron Jones in six foot whatever, two hundred
and forty seven pound AJ Dillon. How can we use
this to kind of confuse a defense and give them
multiple looks and not sure what they're going to see
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on any given play. That's what I think ultimately can
be the biggest thing because whether or not Dobbs and
Watson played in this game. It still comes back to
your veteran leadership and the big thing I've been hitting
on Mike day after day. You're probably getting sick of
me saying it is the Packers have veteran experience where
they need it most in the backfield and on the
offensive line, and I'm really excited to see what they
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can do with it. Like this could really be a
Krem Da La Crem type season for Aaron Jones, just
if he stays healthy. Just open the box of tricks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I did a little bit of research in the offseason,
and if I'm remembering my own statistics right, I believe
it's only been five or six times in the Packers'
last thirty some games that Boktiari and Jenkins have lined
up side by side, like just a half dozen times
out basically out of the last two seasons. Yeah, you know,
thirty three, thirty four games, whatever it's been. And the
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fact that week one, that's what we're going to see
and you hope that you're going to see that on
a weekly basis, that's gonna be big for.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This off Tip of the cap to Aaron Rodgers and
Christian Watson all the guys at the end of last season.
But I don't think it's a coincidence that that's how
Green Bay got on the run late in the season,
that Boktiari and Jenkins were mostly solidified in those two spots.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
All right, Well, with that, we will call it a
rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to
follow all of our coverage of the team and all
of our coverage of Sunday's Week one season opener from Chicago.
We will have it all for you on Packers dot
com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you for tuning
in everybody. We will see you next time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
M
Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
by the one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to
you hear from our studios at lambeau Field, Wes. It's
almost here. Packers Bears Week one at Soldier Field in Chicago.
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Kickoff will be three twenty five pm on Sunday afternoon
Central Time. And normally when we get to this part
of the week and it's week one heading into the
season opener, you like to talk about how healthy the
team is and how you know everybody got through training
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camp in great shape. And well that's not the case
for the Green Bay Packers at one position in particular.
And of course I'm talking about wide receiver because at
the time that we are taping this, which is Thursday morning,
at Wednesday's practice, both Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs were
out with hamstring injuries. Dontavian Wicks, the rookie fifth round
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pick who had missed the back half of training camp
with a hamstring injury. He's still on the injury report
with that injury, but he was back practicing on a
limited basis. But regardless, what the Packers' receiving corps is
going to look like on Sunday afternoon in Chicago is
a bit of a question mark.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It is, Michael, and obviously that was a surprise for
a lot of folks. When we go out to practice,
you know that Romeo Dobbs have been missing some time
with the hamstring, and then you you group Watson into
that conversation as well. The thing, I selfishly for them,
even let's say they'd be able to play on Sunday,
I just hate that both of those guys, who had
such good off seasons had put their best foots forward.
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I think Romeo has been such a consistent presence. You
certainly seen the dynamic deep threat that Christian Watson provides.
You just wanted to be able to see them get
out on the field full go one hundred. Let's see
how this all plays out. And unfortunately, even if they're
able to play, they're probably gonna be somewhat compromised. But
it's a difficult, tricky thing for the Green Bay Packers
right now because you have to navigate what your plan
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is going to be and how you're gonna go about
handling it. The one thing. Again, this is a very
small silver lining, but this was Wednesday's practice. So it
tells you that the Green Bay Packers went into Wednesday knowing, okay,
Christian Watson's and they're probably not going to go today
for whenever it happened, probably not going to be out there.
So the coaching staff at least has been able to
adapt to that, make their adjustments and put together a
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plan that can win here for Jordan Love and this
young offense.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, and as much as the Packers want to start
fast this season, obviously, you want to do everything you
can to win the game on Sunday in Chicago, this
issue with Watson that they have to be really careful
because we saw what happened last year. He was dealing
with a hamstring injury early in the year. Then he
got back into action, but then the hamstring cropped up
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again midway through the game in London, and then he
was out again for a while, and then in the
second half of his rookie season. We obviously saw what
Christian Watson brings to this offense, but because of the
the on again, off again, you know, dealing with with
the hamstring issue last year, we didn't really see what
everybody was hoping from Christian Watson until the calendar got
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much later in the season. So the Packers now have
that history, they understand what happened last year. That will
all be taken into account in terms of moving forward here.
But what this does on Sunday in Chicago is creates
an even brighter spotlight than was already going to be
on two rookies that we knew were going to be
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significant parts of this Packers offense. With Jordan Love at
quarterback and I'm talking about the two second round picks
Jaden Reid at wide receiver more so slot receiver most likely,
but then also Luke Musgrave at tight end. If each
of those guys was expecting maybe four or five targets
from Jordan Love in this game, maybe double that head
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heading into Sunday, We'll just have to see.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And the creativity that the Packers coaching staff is gonna
have to come up with. It isn't when you say target,
it's it's not just pass targets, right, it's right end
to rounds, it's push passes, it's other things that they
can do at this offense. You know how much pony
are we going to see with Aaron Jones and aj
Dillon out of the backfield too. What I like about
it though, is both Reed and Musgrave were thrown into
the deep end right off the bat. These aren't guys
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that just sort of crept up and kind of got
their way into the starting lineup like a Malik Heath
did during the last week of training camp. No, for
the most part, they've been running with the one since
day one of the offseason program. They understood what was
going to be asked of them. The thing I'm really
excited to watch this season, looking specifically at Luke Musgrave,
is the tight end in this offense in the Jordan
Love era. Very very small sample size with Jordan Love
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so far, but he has a knack for finding his
tight ends. He had a little bit of a rapport
going on with Josiah Deguara before in the past. We've seen,
you know, Musgrave gets five receptions during the preseason during
his limited amount of work. The tight end is going
to be a focal point of the passing game here,
and I think having two guys with Reed and Musgrave
that can attack the middle of the field, especially when
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you get Dobbs and Watson out there. It can be
a real catalyst for this unit because you saw the
stretch plays, you saw the nineteen yard touchdown in the preseason,
you know, coming on the crosser like Jaden Reid did.
They're going to challenge the eyes and the integrity of
opposing secondaries. And watching those two guys work off of
each other, I think is gonna be really exciting here
this first season.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, you mentioned the five reception Musgrave had in the preseason.
He was also targeted on some other passes as well.
You know, we saw Jordan Love certainly looking to him
when he was in there in the preseason games. If
Watson and or Dobbs cannot go in this game, you're
looking at a bigger opportunity for Samai Toure, who suddenly
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you know, he could be the most experienced wide receiver
the Packers have on the field on Sunday. Heath the
undrafted rookie from Mississippi. You know, throw him in there
as well, and we'll see what happens with with don
Tavian Wix. He is at least practicing on a limited basis,
and he was running with the ones in training camp
at times before the hamstring injury cropped up with him.
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But I was what was interesting to me in going
through kind of all the notes and the interviews and
everything that was going on in the locker room after
practice on Wednesday, and then I wrote a story on
our website, you know, kind of outlining what's going on
at the receiver position is you know, big crowd gathers
around Samorri Tour, a bunch of cameras, and the questions
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are firing, and you know, we've talked about, you know,
the poise, the you know, calm, cool, collected, Jordan love
Samai Toure did not look bothered in one bit by
all this attention that was coming his way and what
might be a big opportunity for him on Sunday. To me,
he looks like a young man who has a lot
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more experience then he actually got as a rookie last year.
He looks like he's ready for whatever comes his way up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think people forget that this guy was right along
with Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs in the journey of
development last year. Now, he didn't get as many in
game opportunities as his two you know, draft classmates, but
he's seen some stuff over his time, and he was
a season college athlete. I mean you look at his
time at Montana, he was the go to guy, and
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then he ends up at Nebraska. A lot of people wondering, Okay,
can this FCS kid do anything here? He ends up
being their leading receiver. I wrote in the off season,
I know you and I have talked about it too.
He has succeeded at every level of football he's played,
regardless of what people have thought about it. But what
you were over in the Milie Heath huddle too. What
stands out to me the most, and it goes back
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to something Samori said when I asked him about the
collective you know group and how they've kind of grown
together here is whatever the outside perception is of their inexperience,
there isn't that expectation and theo they look at. Maybe
it's because they all were pretty much star college focal
points for their respective teams.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, they've been the guy. They've been the guy, just
not at this level.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You think Malik Heath is getting nervous about having to
play on Sunday, I mean, listen to Malik Heath talk.
I mean, this is a guy that has done it
at every level. Four star recruit you know, was that
Mississippi old miss Mississippi State. He's ready for it. He's
had you remember talking to him during the final week
of camp saying he's talked to Elton Jenkins and Preston
Smith about, you know, coming to this league and what
it takes to succeed. All these guys are ready for it.
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The biggest challenge is going to be what they're seeing
lined up across from them. When you see you know,
Johnson and these other defensive backs and Eddie Jackson hovering
over the back end. Yeah, that's going to be the
challenge winning those opportunities. But in terms of that atmosphere
at Chicago inside Soldier Field, I don't think these guys
are wavering at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
When I think back to SAMAI two Ray's rookie season,
I think of two plays I think of that. I
think of that touchdown catch in Buffalo which actually occurred
right in the end zone that was in front of us.
Well one we get to see, yeah, where the press
box was in Buffalo, that that was right below us there.
And then the fourth down catch in Detroit that that
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kept the Packers, you know alive for what they were
hoping was going to be a game winning scoring drive
there at the end, he's you know, he's had he
you know, didn't have many, but he had some big
moments as as a rookie, and I think he's a
young man who will step up to the challenge. I
want to get to our keys to victory, as we
like to do at the end of the week, but
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Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm gonna break down the fourth wall really quickly here.
I'm going to welcome people into our world. On Fridays,
occasionally we get free lunches. It's a real big boom,
you know. For me. Yeah, I used to when I
worked in the newspaper, used to get pizza on election night.
But it's neat on Fridays, we get free lunches every
once in a while. Mike, you've worked here now for
fifteen years. Has there been a greater advindition?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Actually? But who's who's counting?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Who's counting? Right?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I think in pension terms, it's like, well, as long
as you hit the pension.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You're get to fifteen years. We're good, right, But.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
In all your time working here, has there been a
better addition to the Friday lunch schedule than cousin subs?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hey, I'll take it any I'll take it any time
they can come. They don't just have to come on Fridays.
They can come any day an they want ask me.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But and again this is not on the script. I
just want to say this. I want to give them
credit because there's so many sub places that cater and
they're just like, oh, let's put all these subs together,
just shove them out the door. Best catered sub on
the planet and the best part they put the condiments
on the side.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I know, I know on the side. That's that's
that's huge, that's huge for you. Wes. You don't you
like to take care of that yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like, do you like to eat a sandwich that's been
sitting in Mayo for two and a half days.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No, no, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can you tell him ready for a week one? Let's
talk to keys victory?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
All right, Keys to victory? Young man? Where does I'll
let you decide where you want to start. If you
want to start on the offensive side of the defensive
side for the Packers, what is forefront in your mind
as a key to victory for the Packers on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Defense? Defense, defense, defense, It really is. I mean, you
go back to the first game of Matt Lafleur's time
here and he always talks about how this season kind
of reminds him of that. Well, how did that season start?
It didn't start with Aaron Rodgers throwing for four hundred
yards and five touchdown, right. It was a knockdown, drag
out war at Soldier Field between those two teams. And
that's why I think it's ultimately going to take Packers
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certainly want to score more than ten points, but I
think it's going to come down to this scheme. This
defense in neutralizing justin Field's the best that they may
Packers have actually had quite a bit of success against
fields Joe Berry's had some really smart game plans for
how they've defended him. But you know that Lukeetzi and
the coaches over on Chicago side, they're looking at Justin
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Fields now, year three. What can we do with this
kid that we couldn't do three and sixty five days ago.
What areas of his game has he grown in that
we can make him a viable threat against this defense? Certainly,
rushing to contain, I think is such an integral part
of this. You can't get greedy, you can't get out
of your gaps, because the thing is the kid's not
just fast, he's explosive too. He's not easy to take down. Yeah,
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that's going to be the ultimate challenge for Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah. To me, this as a week one game, and
with everything that's been discussed with regards to the Packers defense,
this sets up as a as a really interesting challenge
because we've heard so much. We've talked so much about
the Packers defense having a more aggressive mentality, Right, that's
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what we've heard from the players, That's what we've heard
from Joe Barry. But yet in this one, this one
is going against a quarterback like Justin Fields. This is
you know, if I can still call somebody like this
a non traditional quarterback in the NFL. When you rush
for one thousand yards in the n exactly eleven hundred
yard rusher for a quarterback, that's still that's still non traditional.
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That's unusual. This this is a This isn't about aggression.
This is about discipline. This this game, this game is
going to be about the discipline of the rush lanes
being able to contain him in the pocket. I mean,
just just look at the game last year, and it
was in December. It was when Justin Fields was starting,
even though the Bears weren't getting wins. You look at
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Justin fields statistics. Statistically the second half of last year,
he was way better than he was in the first half.
Things were starting to come around for him and Luke
Getzi's offense and all this what happened early in the game,
he gets loose for a fifty plus yard touchdown run.
Later in the game, when the Packers made him throw
the football, he threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter.
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You know, and I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't better,
things aren't going to change, but that was just last December.
You go into this game. That's the formula for beating
these guys. You at least have to make Justin Fields
prove that he can beat you with his arm before
you let him beat you with his legs. And in
order to do that, it's all about discipline. The guys
up front, whether it's Preston Smith, Kenny Clark, or Sean Gary,
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Lucas Fanas, whoever it is. They can't be worried about,
you know, how many sacks they're going to be talking
about with reporters like after the game. What they have
to be concerned about is how many rushing yards are
they going to be talking about that Justin Fields ends
up within this game, because I think that's the entire
key for Chicago to get a win.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, And if you think of the preseason, Mike, obviously
you ever take all of it with a grain of salt,
But think about the steady pass rush that the Packers
ended up having throughout the preseason, right, they had some
pretty good pressure on the opposing quarterback. I think they
might have had two sacks. I think Kingsley aene Bari's
two sacks in that one game where all they had
for the button. Yeah, Yeah, Brenton Cox made this roster
based on how we pressure the quarterback, how he collapse
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the pocket. That's the big one here. You know there's
gonna be opportunities to get sacks, There's gonna be opportunities
to make your money. Absolutely, but this is one of
those where it takes a group, absolutely team oriented thought
process in order to succeed against a dangerous quarterback like this, Because, honestly,
Mike line up the rest of it. I don't know
how they'll defend Chicago. But Dj Moore really super talented receiver,
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legitimate number one lined up against joy R Alexander. I
feel okay about that, right. Chase Claypool lined up against
Rasul Dougley's you feel fine about it. Darnell Mooney, big
matchup inside against Keyshawn Nixon, Devondre Campbell going up against
Cole Comet. There's a lot to like in terms of
how Green Bay matches up defensively. I agree, But where
is the question mark? It's at that quarterback position. It's
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the one that is normally not accounted for. Are you
spying him? Are you watching your edges? What is the plan?
The packers have a plan. Very curious to see how
they can go about executing him.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and the other key defensively in this game for
the Packers, and it's always the biggest wild card and
weak one for any defense, Right, it's tackling. And it's
not just about tackling justin fields when you know when
he decides to take off and run and all that
kind of stuff. But this Bears offense, they like to
throw the ball horizontally. They like to do bubble screens,
they like to throw traditional screens. They like to you know,
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throw the checkdowns to the running backs, those guys who
get the ball in some open space. The Packers have
to be able to make the tackle, don't let the miss,
don't let misstackles, then rupture into the big plays because
that's what that's what the Bears are counting on. That's
the Chicago Bears' biggest highlight from the preseason was a
bubble screen that DJ Moore took eighty yards or whatever
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to the house. Right, you have to be able to
make tackles on these guys because they are counting on
their short, simple plays at some point rupturing into a
big one that's going to shift the momentum and get
and get things on their side, and tackling is a
huge wildcard in Week one. Now, the Packers obviously, you know,
played their starters at least a few series here, and
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they're in the preseason, so they're going into this Week
one a little bit differently than they have in previous ones,
but still sixty seventy seventy five plays whatever. It's going
to be, first game of the season, all the tackles
that have to be made. You never quite know what
you have defensively until you're forced to make those plays.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
When you said all those words there, when you talked
about the screens, that word I thought of a different word. Space. Yeah,
it's all about space. And Luke Getzi is a disciple
of both Mike McCarthy and Matt Lafleur. He had to
taste the both worlds, and I think what you've seen
with him is understanding who his quarterback is. That's obviously
the starting point, but where you build out the offense
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from the rest of it, there are a lot of parallels.
It's a much different offense than what Green Bay runs,
but the overall simplification, if you bring it all down
to it, it comes down to making guys get the
ball in their hands and allow them to make plays.
I think that's why DJ Moore so excited about this opportunity.
It's going to put him in a position to make plays.
Chase Claypool did not get off to a strong start
last year, seeing how he rebounds from that. Darnell Mooney
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took a step back last year from his breakout year
of the year before, seeing how he responds to that
as well. And Juice Herbert now being the featured guy
in the backfield with no more David Montgomery, even though
they were without him several times because of injuries, still
he's the guy back there. Now, what does he do
with that opportunity. I just feel like for as much
expectation as there is on this Bears team, because honestly,
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you've got to get off the basement floor. If with
that fan base, there still are a lot of question
marks and how it all ultimately comes together. But those
type of playmakers, that type of athleticism, you get them
up in the space, it's easy for us to say,
go tackle them, Yeah, but it's not always that simple.
That's why hats to the ball matter, and that's why
integrity matters.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, and you said it hats to the ball because
it can't just be on one guy to have to
make those tackles all the time. It has to be
multiple guys getting to the ball so that if a
tackle is slipped, there's somebody right there to help clean
it up. That's what good defenses do, and that's what
That's what we saw the Packers working on the way
they ran drills, the way they did things in warm
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ups and everything else throughout the pre throughout training camp,
in the preseason. That's how they did things. So now
it has to it has to translate into this game.
In Week one, on the offensive side for Green Bay,
we talked about the injuries, the uncertainty at wide receiver.
It certainly shifts the the focus perhaps even you know,
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more so than it would have been already, on how
the Packers are going to be able to run the football.
With Aaron Jones with AJ Dillon, you know you've set
up before yourself. Those two running backs can you know,
can be a new quarterback's best friend, right, And the
Packers like what they have up front with their offensive line.
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They you know, we know that Matt Lafleur likes to
do a lot of misdirection in the running game and
then run play action off of that misdirection stuff. You know,
I mean all all those kinds of things. But the
only way that that stuff works is if you can
line up and run the ball consistently and efficiently, because
then everything else works off of that. And given the Packers'
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situation at wide receiver going into this game, perhaps it's
even more paramount that this ground game establish what it
needs to be.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm so excited for this offensive line in this game.
You know, being able to see David Bakhtiari Nelton Jenkins
back together. We saw it at the end of last season.
But having that unification there, in my opinion, pound for pound,
the best left side in the game right now. I'm
over the moon about what the possibilities can be. You
have to go out and earn it. You have to win.
You have to be able to run the ball when
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they know that you're going to be running the ball.
But being dominant in the trenches I think is going
to be important in this game. Give Aaron Jones and
ag Dillon those opportunities. I thought aj Dillon ran the
ball really well in the preseason. He even talked about
it yesterday in the locker room when we were in there.
You know, he probably got more preseason reps this year
than he's gotten maybe ever, thinking that twenty twenty there
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was no preseason right rookie season when he might have
been more in line for something like that. So he
feels like that was actually good to kind of get
that wear and tear on him a little bit and
feeling good right now, but being able to at least
get some of those bumps in.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, he ran the ball hard, but let's be honest, Mike.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We can talk misdirection, we can talk concepts, we can
talk scheme, whatever you want to do. There's two things
that this boils down to for the Packers offense, protecting
the football and penalties. Matt Lafleur's teams excel in both areas.
When they win football games, they win the turnover margin,
they play clean football, staying out of unfavorable situations. That's
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going to be allow you to keep running the ball right,
making sure that you don't give up the ball, and
in favorable situations for your defense. Those are all gonna
be the keys to this thing. And I feel like
if Jordan Love in this scheme they can go in there.
This is going to sound really bad, but punting is
not always the worst thing. And I just feel like
if Green Bay can control the field, position, control the
pace of this game, they are the more talented team.
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It's just making sure you eliminate as many mistakes as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, well, you mentioned the twenty nineteen opener, Matt Lafleur's
first game as head coach. That was at Soldier Field
and was that defensive slugfest. Ten to three was the
final score. The Packers did just find protecting the football
in that game, but that entire game they were behind
the sticks offensively. It was whether it was you know,
penalties or negative yardage plays or whatever. And that's what
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you have to stay away from because they only scored
ten points in that game because of a lot of
self inflicted stuff that just they put themselves in positions
that were really really hard to convert, but the defense
held up its end to be able to get that win.
So you know, Matt Lafleur knows all about that experience
in in a week one game at Soldier Field, and
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that's what they'll be looking to avoid. For me, the
I'm I'm curious to see just you know, you mentioned
it earlier, what's known as the Pony package, which is
when both aj Dillon and Aaron Jones are on the
field together with the situation now at wide receiver, what
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might we see in the in the creative realm from
Matt lafleur from offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich with regard to
the running backs and how they're used in this game.
You know, I guess color me curious as to as
to maybe what, you know, what might be you know,
pulled out of that grab bag as they get ready
to play on Sunday, just in case they need something
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for a little change up or something for a little
spark or whatever. Offensively, if there is something like that
that they're going to go to, I think it's gonna
involve one of the running backs.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Do you see what Atlanta's doing down right, what they're
doing this year? No, so they're calling Corterell Patterson a
joker now in b Jhon Robinson's the starting running back. Okay, so,
but they're given it's almost kind of a takeoff Pony
a little bit, but using it more as like the
base personnel on a depth chart, so to speak. I
feel like, that's one of the things that Green Bay
really can to do. You know I want to see
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more of this year is let's get as creative as
possible with Aaron Jones. Let's get him catching passes, Let's
get him out of the backfield, let's get him on
bubble screens, Let's do all that stuff. And have you
know AJ Dillon as your prototypical starting running back. Sure,
I'm really excited to see what those two guys can
do off each other. There's gonna be some pre pre
snap action motion, you know, with Red or with Jones,
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and being able just to challenge the eyes of a
defense I think is going to be really important because ultimately,
that's what it comes down to. Yes, you want to
get your best eleven players on the field, but it's
how can we use two hundred and eight pound five
foot nine Aaron Jones in six foot whatever, two hundred
and forty seven pound AJ Dillon. How can we use
this to kind of confuse a defense and give them
multiple looks and not sure what they're going to see
(24:37):
on any given play. That's what I think ultimately can
be the biggest thing because whether or not Dobbs and
Watson played in this game. It still comes back to
your veteran leadership and the big thing I've been hitting
on Mike day after day. You're probably getting sick of
me saying it is the Packers have veteran experience where
they need it most in the backfield and on the
offensive line, and I'm really excited to see what they
(24:59):
can do with it. Like this could really be a
Krem Da La Crem type season for Aaron Jones, just
if he stays healthy. Just open the box of tricks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I did a little bit of research in the offseason,
and if I'm remembering my own statistics right, I believe
it's only been five or six times in the Packers'
last thirty some games that Boktiari and Jenkins have lined
up side by side, like just a half dozen times
out basically out of the last two seasons. Yeah, you know,
thirty three, thirty four games, whatever it's been. And the
(25:28):
fact that week one, that's what we're going to see
and you hope that you're going to see that on
a weekly basis, that's gonna be big for.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This off Tip of the cap to Aaron Rodgers and
Christian Watson all the guys at the end of last season.
But I don't think it's a coincidence that that's how
Green Bay got on the run late in the season,
that Boktiari and Jenkins were mostly solidified in those two spots.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
All right, Well, with that, we will call it a
rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to
follow all of our coverage of the team and all
of our coverage of Sunday's Week one season opener from Chicago.
We will have it all for you on Packers dot
com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you for tuning
in everybody. We will see you next time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
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