February 28, 2024 • 40 mins
On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, Peanut and Roman welcome special guests Andrew Hawkins and Troy Jones, and Chris “CJ2K” Johnson. The start out talking with Andrew and Troy about their flourishing sports technology and gaming company “Status Pro.” As co-owners they discuss their latest success and how they secured $20 million in funding for their quest to be the go-to place for first-person virtual sports gaming. And Peanut shares his experience playing their football game. The guys also share how the future of “Status Pro” could include other games. Later, the guys sit down with former running back Chris Johnson. He shares stories of the signature game from his 2,000-yard rushing season, and whether he can still run a 4.24 40-yard dash. Chris also gets into his ventures after football, which is highlighted by his coffee business “Just Love.”
Time codes:
1:07 - Troy Jones and Andrew Hawkins are introduced
3:19 - Troy and Andrew discuss what’s next for “Status Pro”
9:48 - Troy discusses his film and TV projects
11:22 - Troy and Andrew discuss the future of virtual reality
16:13 - End of interview with Troy Jones and Andrew Hawkins
17:10 - Chris Johnson is introduced
18:04 - Chris explains how running a 4.24 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine changed his draft prospects
19:24 - Peanut and Chris talk about Peanut’s record setting game against the Titans
21:19 - Chris talks about the highlight of his 2,000-yard rushing season
24:05 - Chris shares the list of current players he believes could rush for 2,000 yards
27:12 - Chris explains how he started investing in coffee shops
30:41 - Chris shares the challenges of running a coffee shop
32:12 - Chris shares his welcome to the NFL moment
33:33 - Roman asks Chris how fast he could run a 40-yard dash today
34:59 - Chris talks about the Smash and Dash podcast he co-hosts with LenDale White
36:41 - Chris shares his personal Mount Rushmore
39:44 - End of Chris Johnson interview
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Peanuts woman, and this is the NFL player Second
Acts with an ass podcast. My guy Roman Harbor with me.
Why he's smiling, why he laughing right now? Because you're
just a funny guy. It's gonna it's not gonna show
on tape, but you're just a funny guy. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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your podcast, whether it's Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio Peanut. Who are
the beautiful guests today? Andrew Hawkins, Troy Jones, Chris Johnson
(00:57):
two K one call him c J two K s
e J two.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
OK.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hey, we got a good one for y'all. Right now,
we're gonna kick the first one off with Hawk and
Troy Jones to check it out, just the first duo.
We got two talented brothers, NFL legends, Troy Jones Andrew Hawkins.
They're in the gaming. They got a whole lot of
stuff and in the games on TV now too. He
on TV and he'd be acting at everything and everything everything.
(01:24):
I mean before me, I mean, can we just put
the shoes up? Can we put the shoes up?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Out up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just like hawks? And he invented Chelsea boots.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So I had to make sure I came right, because
it's okay, Mark, it's been business.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So the last time y'all were here, y'all had this
the the VR game, and y'all had Lamar Jackson on there.
After y'all left Super Bowl, I went out, I got
the VR, I bought the game. I damn near broke
something because when I was trying to throw it took
me a minute to figure out how to throw the football.
I figured, I mean, I dam here through myself and
(02:09):
a controller like I got. I got so into it,
it's real.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You because I'm imagining you. It was yo.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I was sweating. I'm over there dodging trying to throw
them things. I couldn't figure out how to so at
first I was just trying to, like like with the weed,
you just kind of do that in it, like you
really gotta throw it like you. I swear, Oh my mama,
you you you really have to try to throw that thing.
I was overthrowing it. I was underthrowing it. I was like, damn,
(02:40):
this is a lot harder than I thought. So shout out.
First off, shout out to y'all. It's it's legit. It's
a y'all. U s d A certified. Put a stamp
on that's real. That is like, it's real. Put a
stamp a it's put a stamp on it. It's real,
it's certified.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You heard it here man anytime players, Yeah, put it on.
And that's their response that what better marketing is that?
Because who knows what that experience is like better than you, guys.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
We'll take a cut of it. If that's playing.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I pawork.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But how much has so the other day? Lamar Jackson?
He wins the MVP is the second one. Yeah, how
has from last year to this year? How has that
been going? With sales? I know you guys been busy.
Uh you've raised a ton of money, like talk about that?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yes, I mean to answer your first question, thanks are
going good with sales. We was able to cross a
million users in less than fifteen months, which is tough
and any consumer product, any gaming market. So shout out
to our team for that. And as far as Lamari obviously, yeah,
he's been on this ride all the way through. And
we we started out with a vision say each year
it was going to get better, you know, operating like athletes,
taking that mindset, applying it to the product, and it's
(03:58):
been It's been well received, man, I mean, people are
having fun. I would say the most exciting thing for
us is we just getting started, you know, like anything.
We were the first people to ever launch our first
fully licensed sports game, MVR. So now that we got
user data, now that we got people in the headset
giving feedback, you could take it up. Not because you
got that data, you know what to go back and
improve that we're focusing on applying thatt, I would go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I was gonna say, the cool thing for us is
that people have been along the ride and the journey
with us, you know, I mean, we knew that we
had a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Perspective that people wanted to see.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
The tough part was obviously bringing it to life and
communicating it in a way where people understood what the
proposition was. To your point, we just raised our series
A Round, which is led by Google, and our quest
is to be the go to place to build first
person sports. There's a level of access that fans have
never had, which is on the field that we felt
like as athletes we could provide. And the biggest tech
(04:49):
companies in the world have backed us and aligned with
us to bring that to life. And now you guys
know that that's no easy feet and we've done it
by being ourselves. We've done it by hiring a diverse team.
We've done on it by hiring former athletes who you know,
might also be engineers, might also be incredible marketers, might
also be producers, along with the expertise of people who
(05:11):
have built sports games for a very long time, and
that has allowed us to accelerate to get to the
point that we are so quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I wish I was a STEM student. I could be
talking to y'all. I could be codd. I wish I
wish I was a STEM I could be stay in
your life. You don't want to, So my question is
(05:40):
this all right? Number one? When you talk about the
biggest money backers in in these spaces backing you guys,
Number one, I want you guys both to tell me,
how does that make you feel to know that you're
the ones that people believe in, Because it's something to
be said when people like, man, I'm with you, dog,
but when they put their money behind you, that's a
different level of belief. And then also what's next. I
(06:02):
know we're talking about the gameplay the other things, but
it's always on the next evolution because you got to
stay in front of it because it's not the one
in front of you that you ever worry about, it's
the one behind you. That's why I bash you up
that you have to look out for I would say
for people to back us the way that they have.
I mean, it's incredibly humbling.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I know that's cliche, but we probably need to do
a better job of soaking in those moments like that
because sometimes we take it for granted, not because we
don't appreciate it, but because when you hear three hundred
no's from people who aren't google right right, that just
have an effect on you. Sure, and so it's like
you have to do so much to show and prove.
(06:41):
We've had to show them better than we could tell anybody.
And I think the thing that makes us special or
the thing that we're most proud of. And I let
Troy answer this question as well. But it's like, we've
done what we said we're going to do. And as athletes,
you don't get to the level you guys, you don't
get to what we're doing unless you have that condition, conviction,
(07:05):
you have that obsession, and your focus is not the
press releases. Your focus is not how people talk about you.
Your focus is not making sure when you come into
a room people want to bow down and kiss the ring.
Your focus is I said, I'm going to do something.
That's all I care about is making sure that I
do it, and over time, the right people will see
(07:26):
that and go along with the journey.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And I think that's what's happened for us. Yeah, I said,
I mean, basically that add on to what he said.
We're not taking that face value, right, So we go out,
we're talking about what we're going to do, and what
we've done is some skepticism to it, just being honest.
So like athletes, we kind of go into these room
with chips on our shoulder, and when you're the people
that believe in as we internalize that meaning like we
want to preview, right, you know, we think about our story.
(07:49):
You know, my journey is a quarterback Hawk's journey throughout
his playing career, underdogs who had to always work hard
and odds were against us. And it's kind of similar
to that. And as we think about what we're building
our venture and the people who believe in us, that
their family, they believe in a vision, they trust us
our team.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Same thing.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Anyone who comes on this journey with us that that
has joined the company, we make sure that we do
we do right by them by making sure we're keeping
what's top of mind for the what's best for the
company top of mind, right, Like we're never making it
about Troy Hall, you know, so when we talk about things,
it's always like, all right, what's best for the company.
What's going to make sure that everybody that's part of
this thing wins? And I think that's just a byproduct
(08:25):
of just being appreciative, you know what I mean of
them believing in us. And yeah, to this point, we
got to do a better job relash than it. Like
it's not easy, like it is. One percent of founder
founders that raise money are African American, right, So for
us to be in that you gotta you got to
give yourself fowers for that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You gotta tell that story.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But the other side of it is like, we got
work to do and we know that if we win,
everybody wins behind us versus, you know, just being happy
like with that and being happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Type of type mindset, you know, so on on behalf
of like myself in Rome. I want to take out
a little bit of cash right now, I got twenty
I want to I want to back y'all. I don't
get you point oh oh hey, this is from rooming on.
(09:15):
This from both of us. You gotta do it like smoke.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He did you know twenty twenty two right.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's both of us investment in the tech up series.
He's like half a cold, half a character. We're gonna
spend fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
In the uber.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's just trying to get to the bank. Put that
money into the account. You said one percent. Man, I'm
trying to be a part of us.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm trying to take us to one point one. You
know what I'm saying. Hey, I'm a stim suit. I'm
in an arms So I got a question for you.
I know you're in the TV. Talk about some of
the TV some of the TV shows, movies, some of
the some of the projects that you're working on or
have been in.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yes, I mean entertainment is obviously a big part of
the pie chart that I've gotten into after football, and
I think that's where Status Pro and Pro Era playing too,
and where I've gotten a lot of that knowledge of saying, Okay,
this is what I think fans will gravitate to because
I feel that reception and all the things that I've done.
So I'm out ESPN now as an NFL analyst. Obviously,
(10:21):
I produced, was an executive producer of hair Love, which
one I Oscar. Another executive producer of To Live and
Die and Live which was a dope movie that premiered
at sun Dance last year. Have a couple of projects
and developments and comedy projects. Worked at spring Hill Entertainment
for a long time before I left there to go
to the Status Pro full time, and then they invested into
(10:42):
the company. So I think what you're going to see
from sports technology and specifically what we're doing at Status Pro,
there's a lane where these worlds will merge, and that's
kind of what we've always envisioned of how do you
enhance the sports experience of fans, And we had to
find a thing that we're experts at and just drove
down in there.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're not trying to be anybody else.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
We're not trying to take away from when anybody else
is built from a gaming or entertainment or how they
you know, show up with fans. But for us, if
we can build an appetite for feeling, for seeing what
it's like to be on the field, we will always
be the leaders because that's something you only know if
you've been there.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That was our whole idea around the company. I love that.
I think the world is literally changing, like right in
front of us, because you know, we've just seen the goggles,
the things that people are just walking around normal and
stuff like this is normal. It's not it's not normal normal,
you know what I mean. So you guys are definitely
ahead of the curve. But like you guys have seen
this and now that everybody else is starting to catch up.
(11:42):
So I'm still in my mind like, Okay, how do
you guys continue to just grow and like what's the
next game or what's the next you know, or now
we're going to be able to be a wide receiver
where now you got people like Peanut running through the house,
like so it's saying, what is going to be that
next little part. I'm really excited to see what you
guys do because this was just last year that we
(12:02):
got introduced to this, right and in one year, like
you said, sixteen months, yeah, you guys have I'm over
a million, yeah, a million one point one million years. Yeah,
and like you guys are learning so much more from them.
So I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I wanted out.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He didn't to tell me I don't have anything virtual.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You didn't hand me that twenty four dollars to think.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I tried to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I try to make it up, you know what I mean.
But I want to know, like what's next? And so
like where do you guys see this going? For you
guys to your point in that length, we've.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Been in this space since twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, and
I think when you're obsession obsessing over something like you
think about you know, because we believed in it, we're
thinking about five, ten, fifteen years ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So obviously we'll continue to scale.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The NFL product we'll be able to make it more
social where people can experience the game with their friends.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So what does it look like for you to build virtual.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Teams so you to hang out in stadiums and and
just have unique experiences. Become a platform that way to
where you can't experience football in a number of ways
in the NFL product. But we want to go across
different sports too, So any and everything that's first person
sports we want to own. So that's basketball, that's baseball,
as boxing, as soccer. Right, the goal is to really
leverage what we've done in the NFL and continue to
(13:15):
carry this out through multiple sports, which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People believe in the vision.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Obviously, technologies finally getting to the point where everybody's paying
attention and we're going to keep keep pushing forward.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's cool because when Troy and I first met, which
was like I think the end of twenty sixteen or
early twenty seventeen, we spoke in terms of what was
coming in ten years, and we were like, yo, in
ten years, these big clunky headsets will be smaller.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
There won't there'll be wireless.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
There was no wireless HEAs at the time, and our
whole mindset was preparing for what the next ten years
was going to look like. It's crazy that was seven
years ago now and it doesn't feel like it was
that long.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But to your point of people walking.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Around and VR goggles and imagine where it's going to
be three fore years from now. So, just like an athlete,
when you get to the league or you've worked your
hardest to become who you are, you don't so much
focus on of like, oh what's next. You just get
better every day. You watch your film from the practice
before and you're like, man, I got to get that foot, Yeah,
I got straighten that out because I'm losing a step.
I got to make sure I get my hands on
this receiver sooner. And it's like you just start to
(14:13):
enhance because now you put yourself so far in front,
and if you keep getting better, you don't got to
worry about who's behind.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's kind of how we approach the experience we have,
like we're just going to keep making it better. We
want more positions, we want more competitive nature. We want
you to play linebacker, we want you to play receiver,
whence you play running back. We want you to play basketball, baseball,
and we want to be the place when you think
of first person sports status, pro is it. This is
the gaming software that allowed us to see field level
(14:41):
sports that we love across the gamut.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I want to give you some love too, because I
can't wait to see the first YouTube video somebody playing
linebacker on you guys' thing and come dive through a wall.
They just totally don't recognize that you should not be
diving like that, because I see it in boxing, people
doing boxing. Somebody get it all the time. You know,
it's funny.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
We see so many viral videos of like uncles running
through closet walls, and you know, we got to act
like we don't even see it, Like, yeah, you see
that video with six.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Million here our game in the background, I can't prove it.
Talking about brothers well fellas, Hey man, we appreciate Sean.
I'm actually curious to see what happens next year when
y'all come on the shop. I feel like this show
is the good luck charm. This is it. I can't
(15:31):
wait to see you guys come back next year. You
guys be doing even bigger and better things. I think
that in the boot game right, Peter even had joints
like that. Things is five. That's what we say them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Things is far.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Look this is Peanut Tillman. We got trop we got Halt,
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a friend? That's what I'm talking about. Hey, super Bowl
fifty eight we out, let's go feed. Yes, we're gonna
(16:17):
take a short break and we'll be right back. First
of all, those dudes are killing the game. It was
funny because we saw them last year, last year and
they were still just kind of getting their feet a
little bit, a little bit more wet, really diving into it.
Peanut went out and bought some stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I did.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Damn near killed myself trying to play that game. It's dope,
though it was super nice. Damn near killed myself. But
they really are heading in well on their ways to
being the virtuality of sports. I'm just a little disappointed
that they didn't take my investment. I gotta make it enough.
It's all good. Both of us from the collection played
(16:57):
our next guest. Trust me, hell of a ballplayer. I
mean they had the fastest forty times in Combine history
for a long time. CJ two K, CJ two K
aka Chris Johnson. Our next guest is a good one.
He's gonna remember this. Let me read a little bit
of his resume because it is extremely impressive. Drafted twenty
(17:22):
fourth overall first round draft pick to the Tennessee Titans
back in two thousand and eight, played ten NFL seasons
two thousand and nine offensive Player of the Year rush
for over two thousand yards, Yes, sir, and he set
the NFL record for the most scrimmage arge over twenty
five hundred. Since retiring, he's invested in real estate and
(17:45):
he has a chain of successful coffee shops called Just
Love Coffee. Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the podcast. Chris Johnson,
CJ two K, CJ two K having CJ two K.
That's the name right there. Two thousand. I don't even
draw that far bro you ran. I don't even that
(18:05):
far man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I want to know this before we jump into it,
because I remember when you ran the forty. That's what
put you on the map. Nobody if you didn't watch
Eastern Carolina football. We didn't know who Chris Johnson was, right,
and I don't think the NFL knew either. And you
ran this forty at the combine? Could you talk about
that moment and all of a sudden how it changed everything?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
A man, it was crazy because like going into the combine,
like I was probably like a second third rounder, you
know what I'm saying, I had all the film to
match and stuff like that, a lot of people didn't
know about me. But before then we did the Junior Day.
So Junior Day, want to see I think a East
Carolina probably like probably like three scouts came out or whatever.
(18:49):
Three scouts I ran, Yeah, but I ran a four
one nine there, Oh wow, I ran a four one nine.
So that's what kind of got it wasn't you know
what I'm saying. Still one overly known and or whatever
like that. And then so I did my thing my
senior year, and then in the bowl game and the
Hawaii Bowl, I had four hundred dollars purpose yards and
(19:10):
then so I was on the cut second third round
and then like, man, at the combine, after I read
that forty, it's just when everything went through the roof.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It went crazy. That went crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So after that I had like I had sixteen schedule
visits after after the combine, like it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That was yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, so uh do you remember that that twenty twelve
game when Chicago came to Tennessee. You have refreshed my memories.
So you had a good one. So I believe where
the scroll we won fifty one to twenty. That's when
(19:49):
that's when you said that record that game. Yes, he did, he.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Said that record what it was four or five?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It was four. Yeah, that was a fun game. That
was a game. I just at some point on the ode,
y'all gotta be like, can y'all just not let this
guy puss? I don't know what the conversation was on
the sund coveration.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Was like, man hold on to the to the damn boll?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
What is it like for the during the week of practice,
did anyone say.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
After after you that next week coming I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Talking about the week leading up to us, did anyone
talk about it?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, it was all taught about it because it was
always known. They you know, the peanut punching. You know
what I'm saying, Like you're gonna get that ball or
whatever like that was talked about so extra ball security
this week, all that stuff, and it's.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Like, so the first play from scrimmage, we get Kenny
Brick and force fumble. What was the conversation was solid?
Right after that one?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It was just crazy, like we talked about this and
you the first play this happened, so it's like we
already fighting out up here at them, you know what
I'm saying. And then like me myself, I never like
I never fumbled, like I didn't. So we come out
there and I fumbled it and one of those phones
was questionable on that I had a catch, So it
was like a bang bang player. But I feel like
(21:04):
they knew he was going for the record that was
so they gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But yeah, man, he had a real good game.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Man, you had You had a good one too, though
you ran. You still rush for like one hundred and
forty one yards, sixteen carries, like you still did your thay.
He had an eighty yard run, just took it to
the house. I didn't even try to chase him, like, yeah,
let it go. Don't put that on tape, dog, don't
you put that on tape.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Just let him get that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I want to know this what was your you know
you won the offensive player that you're in two thousand
and nine. Do you have a signature play, a signature
moment of that season or something that really just sticks
out to you and that that that season, because I
know you broke off.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
A ton of long runs, but I think my signature
I ain't gonna say it just went play. But it
was a game against Jacksonville. Me and Jones Rue was
like going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Remember that game.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think total rushing off between me and him, It
was like almost five hundred yards, like, but we was
going back and forth, like he'll break along when I
break alone. It was just like going back and forth
the whole game, and it was like it's like it
kind of like was like in my head and going
back thinking about it, it was like a boxing mass
where like, you know, he hit you with a big blow,
(22:07):
I come back here hit you with a big blow,
and then I end up with the last big blow
to the knock him out. We end up winning the game,
and I end up finishing with more yards and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So that's a signature game for me.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
How competitive did you get it? When you're not making
any tackles, but you got another really good running back
on the opposite sideline. Do you take it personally like
I got outshine?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, I definitely say that personally, like that's something I
used to always.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Have in my mind, like I got to outshine the
other guy.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And then another thing like with me was like even
though AP came in a year before me and I
was asking, we were still the same.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We graduated high school together.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
He came out early, but it was like always like,
you know what I'm saying, I got an outdo Ap.
You know what I'm saying, because that was while we
was in the league. That was always the talk who
the best back out of me and AP? So if
he played earlier, then I played what AP did today?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A lot of time, I know and I in a
lot of stadiums, they usually put the.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Highlights in the yards up like that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
If he just bro for seventy got to do something,
so like yeah, you always going to compete and compete
against the other running back on the other team too,
and I'll do him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So. Adrian Peterson one of the greatest, another a great
running back to UH to play the game. UH yourself.
Is there a running back today who you think can
rush for two thousand yards with what you see with
I see where running backs we have?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well, first of all, the way that the offenses is
going in the NFL today, I don't think it can happen.
The last guy to do it, Darren Henry. They were
still running the old school offense where they gonna give
him a ball twenty twenty five game. But has it
changed that it's different? But a physic guy that's capable
of it, I would say. I would say Jamar Gibbs,
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if they if they, if they give him the bar,
how they should give him the ball. I think he
can do it. I think sa Quan could do it,
but they'll never give him the ball like that. S
Quan can do it, Jamar can do it. And if
Nick Chubb can stay heal, yeah, yeah, I really believe
he can.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I would say the same thing about Saquon too, because
Saquon it's always some little tweak or something. He's just
trying to stay healthy. But when he is healthy, he's explosive.
Like you're saying, I would like to know this. I
want your opinion. As a running back, there was drafted
in the first round because now they like, you shouldn't
draft a run back in the first round. How the
outlook on running backs going forward? How has it changed?
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What do you see the future in it? And also
the devaluing of the running back or the star running back.
But now it's running back by committee.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
See I hate a lot of times like when they say, oh,
you can get this guy in the third, fourth, fifth round.
How I've never seen you get a Chris Johnson an
a Adrian Peterson, like Barry Sanders, jar Mark Gibbs. You know,
you don't see these guys lasting to the fourth, fifth.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Round and things like that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now you might catch a guy in the third, fourth round,
fifth round they come in and you know they have
a good career. Yeah, but what guy is you gonna
really name? That can be like oh I did what
AP did, I did what CJ did that? Oh yeah,
I went and got him in a fifth round or
the fourth round. And a lot of times some of
those guys that they may catch, they don't tell the
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backstory behind it. That guy probably could have got hurt
coming out of college, had character issues.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Why it's a reason why he went LA.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It went't just like, oh, this guy not talented enough
to be a first rounder. We can wait and get
him in the fourth round and he goes crazy. No,
they don't tell the backstory behind it. So that's why
I don't like when they say that. You know what
I'm saying. So and it's just like this year, you
look at you Jamior Gills, he was a first rounder.
B John Robinson, he was a first rounder. Like, I
don't see how running bass can go in the first
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round no more when you see the talent that's coming out, and.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's crazy because everybody was like questioning Jamior Gibbs and
then all of a sudden they saw in play, especially
down the stretch when you figured it out electric player. Yeah,
we're going to take a short break and we'll be
back in a minute. So making that transition after you,
after you retire, go back to school, you get your
(26:26):
degree in communications, and congratulations, congratulations, you get into you
start investing in coffee. Just love coffee, yep, and talk
about how well, first off, you got a must You
must really love coffee to invest in it. And I
know y'all have what twenty you have about twenty six locations?
(26:47):
You know, how did you get invested in this, like
what what what made you want to do that?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, the crazy thing is like when I first, like
when I first retire, right going through that phase where
it's like dang, like I'm used to being on the
schedule every then in my life nothing doing. It's like dang,
like what I'm gonna do? Like the transition is hard.
So the first thing, my first initial thing what I
did was I went back to school. Yeah, so doing
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a lot of online classes and stuff like that. And
then like going through that a lot of time I
used to do, like it used to be sometimes be
sitting in the house and I'm just like like bored,
Like shit, i gotta get out. So I used to
go to like different coffee shops and like study and
do all that type of stuff and just sitting and
I'm like, man, it's kind of dope, man Like, and
I just see how many people come in and out,
(27:31):
Like sometimes you see some of the same people come
in and out all day getting coffee, you know what
I'm saying. I'm like, man, this would probably be dope,
you know what I'm saying. So then so I'm like, man,
I'm just just try it out. You know what I'm saying,
And I got into that type of way or whatever.
So my first initial thing was I'm gonna get a
coffee shop, so it was a franchise or whatever like that,
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and then COVID hit or whatever like that, and I'm like, man,
I know, like I want to build this brand and
things like that, like with us some way, like what
can I do, like to become bigger, you know what
I'm saying, and not just hold myself to like this
individual store. So I'm like, man, you know what, I'm
gonna just go to the owners of the company and
stuff like that, see if I can invest and see
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if I can be part owners. So I went to
from just owning one individual store to becoming part owner
of the whole brand or whatever like that. And I
just felt like it was smart idea because next, like
if we talk about addiction and we're not talking about
like nothing illegal, not drugs or like you know what
I'm saying, Like coffee is like people are addicted to coffee,
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like they have to have it. And a lot of
times people think, oh, the hot coffee in the morning
where we grew up thinking, but no, people love ice
coffee and they drank that all throughout the day, all
through how to win.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No, I'm not my grandmothers was.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
So when I when I used to come up, like
in middle school and high school, my grandma and I'm
like and like my aunties and uncles and stuff, like
every weekend, like every Saturday, Saturday morning, everybody used to
come to my grandmother house because I who I lived
with my grandmother, Like everybody used to come there every
Saturday morning. They used to be there like like eight
in the morning, all sitting down on the porch just
(29:14):
drinking coffee, sent around talking and stuff like that. So
like that's my first initial introduction to coffee.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Now you got a signature, You got a signature, Blend. Yeah, yeah,
I gotta like some lemon, some raisins, yeah, limen raisin.
I never would have thought like lemons and raisins and tea.
I never would have thought that would have went together.
Like we came up who and how did you come
up with that? And it was crazy like that, Blend.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
So at the main office, like it's a coffee tasting room,
you know what I'm saying, Like you got all there's
probably like twenty thirty different coffees you can taste, you
know what I'm saying. So just sitting there tasting all
the different coffees and getting up blend, putting together and
then whatever the best one that I like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You know what I'm saying. I just went with that. Okay,
I just went.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Like, tell me about it. Sounds like it just went great.
But I want to know about like a pitfall, something
you didn't see happening outside of COVID that you learned
from this coffee business. Like, man, this is everybody just
needs to look out for this because this is what's
really out there.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well that that coffee business kind of got me into
the next one. As far as real estate, you know
what I'm saying. So I do real estate now, so commercial.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Residential, airbnbsbnbs, So just getting into the coffee business and
running the restaurant and things like that, like dealing with employees,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, like you may be saying because you're that type
of business coffee shop you got, you got high school workers.
Basically you may have some freshmen college workers, but you're
dealing with kids, you know what I'm saying. So you're
dealing with kids and sometimes you're dealing with their parents
and stuff like that. So it's like going into that
that let me know that, like I really don't want
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to do nothing involved with having to deal with people,
like having deal with employees. I rather deal with real
estate is cutting dry. This is what it's going to be.
You don't have to worry about, Oh, this person can't
show up to work today. All of that type of
stuff is just a headache. Everybody complays about that.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The people.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You got a manage on on personalities. I guess it's
kind of like being a head coaches. Fifty three people
on the team, You got fifty three personalities that you
got to manage, right, right, So I got a question
for you. We all I got eleven. I'm sorry you
got eleven. I got thirteen hundred years and ten. We
all have that moment where we get rocked or something
crazy happens that you didn't expect, like, damn, this is
(31:42):
the league, this is this is real. What was your
welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mine was Wiz playing Will's playing Cleveland Browns my rookie
year and they had the Quel Jackson you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Know, Mike linebacker, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
My linebacker. All he wanted to do is that?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And it's so crazy that that that you was with
Chicago because I thought I was gonna have my coming
welcome to the NFL moment when I was going against
Brian Urlacker. But once I played against him, I feel
like he's more a finesse linebacker.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You know what I'm saying. But what the quest? Jackson?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He want to thay every chance he gets, every chance
he gets. So I come through the middle, he hit me.
I go this way. My mouth fees go the other way.
This real deal right here?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Is that the hardest you ever been in?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got back up. Now I'm
gonna get back up.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It was it like the program Darnell Jefferson. Were you just.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I was more embarrassed. I'm like, dang my, he's not
my mouth feet side. My question is I want to
know what you think you would run a forty in
right now?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right now? Yes? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
When was the last time you rann? I I mean
you look like you used to work out, but like
I'm talking about, like run.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I ran for four speed. It's been a while. I
just do cardio like ire around the neighborhood. I don't
run like now I.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Don't do it's a don't come around that dog, come.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Round like realistically, I think I can run a fullfo
right now?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You run fook? If you hit four five, you probably
like mad.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm running so far. I know I can run a
full fok.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Okay to Yo said he ran a four four two
or four four two years ago in t City.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah yeah, if he ran that, I know I can run.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So you bet that you think? Okay, no, no question.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
If you think about it, like it's forty yards.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I know that might be five right now, right not
a full four. I think I could do a full
five right now. Dude. I barely hit fox fo when
I was in my best shape at twenty two twenty three?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What was your best forty?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Four four five?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, somewhere around there you wou'd you say you're in.
We don't have to talk about it. Okay, let's just
focus on Chris here, on Christ here. I know fast,
people like to run fast. Let's just focus on Chris.
I'm good with that. You're cool with that?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right? Cool? Go ahead? So, uh you got a
podcast one of your former teammates Lindell and White and
how's that been going and what is like how how
what do you guys talk about on your podcasts?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Right well, we talk about just life, everything that's going
on life, all social problems and all that stuff. I mean, honestly,
we kind of we took a break right now because
we was doing a lot of zoom like over zoom
and stuff like that, and like they kind of got
boring to me. I like, more in person seeing him
is way better, you know what I'm saying. It's way better,
Know what I'm saying. You have more fun with it,
(34:48):
you look more forward to it, and stuff like that.
So right now we just rebranding and like just trying
to figure out because he lives in Denver, I live
in Orlando, So we're just trying to figure out a
schedule we can get together and like just make content.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And release it and make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's kind of how ours started out. We did the
whole zoom at first, and then did an event for
the league. It was totally differ, totally different vibe, and
once then yeah, we gotta.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, like are y'all close, Like y'all stay in the same.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, no, no, I'm in Chicago. He lives in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
How y'all write that out?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We just I don't know. We we just make it work. Yeah,
we just He's he's our he's our guru.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Shout out to Thomas.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Shout out to Thomas. Ye right now, because he just
he saw a little star Cress High School. He he
just he completely changed. He made his leader over here,
brought out a little many vacuums doing the most. So
it's all good. But c J, I want to know
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this from you because we asked this to all of
our guests and Mount rushmore of influence, like the people
that have impacted you the most in your life, in
my life, ball off the field, on the field, life
in general. You get four Who are those four?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
B Okay one I would say my well, one of them,
I would say my great grandmother. Okay, that was my
great grandma, Like live with them my whole time growing up.
So like I came up like my mom and dad,
they was I was with them too, Like I ain't
gonna say they weren't about it was in my life.
But like I always wanted to live with my grandmother.
(36:29):
So it was crazy because I stayed with two of
my grandmothers. So I stayed with my great grandmother and
my and my grandmother. Yeah you know what I'm saying.
So I grew up with them, so like just seeing
how hard they work, how they hustled and stuff and
like to always provide and stuff like that. Those are
those are two. And I gotta say my oldest brother.
(36:50):
Like I always wanted to be like my oldest brother
because when I was younger, my mom wouldn't let me
play football because she thought that I was gonna get
her call little. But she always let my brother play,
so like.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Every year, so she let him play, but you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, but he's my oldest He was my oldest brother.
So he's five years older than me. So he's my
oldest brother. So I got three older brothers. He the oldest.
So every year, like all the way up until like
seventh grade, every year, like he used to be like
just working out, training stuff like that. I used to
be right there with him working out and training and
stuff like that. And when it comes time for the
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football season, she let him playing. Well never let me play,
so I do all his work for no reason. So
finally she eventually let me play. But like just seeing
like he's the reason why I played football, like why
I always wanted to play football and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So like he's one and then another guy.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I got to say, Vince Young Man, Like okay, yeah,
Vince Young was a guy like when I came to
When I came to the league, he was in the
quarter back got it took me on his wings and
just just to see the type of person he is
and like no matter like whatever was going on with him,
and like when everything was going on with him, like
he never changed or anything like that, Like he took
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it on the chin and like and still like to
this day, like that's my brother man, and he's still
doing great for himself. And like even though he didn't,
like we knew how good Vince was, and even though
he didn't have this long career or play like that,
like he got no ill wheels or anything, like you
wouldn't even know you're thing. He played fifteen years in
the league. Like when you get around him, like he's
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just still chill. He the same guy. He acted the
same right now, the same guy that I met the
first day I walked in the locker room to how
he is now today.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So that's awesome. Little consistency with that, I wouldn't guess Vince, y'all,
I wouldn't either not see that them out rushmore. So
thanks c J two K man. We appreciate you coming
on the shop man. Hopefully they zoom in on all
this ice my man got because you know, if you
don't know who it is, I'm cold. I mean clearly
I got you. I got goosebumps. Okay, good, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Love what he's doing with Just Love Coffee, Chris Johnson.
He's killing it with the franchise business man. I love
what he's doing the business, mind, the real estate. Like
he's just man, I'm proud of him. He's on amazing things.
I'm just happy that he said he can still run
like a four to four and when challenged, I'm like, dude,
this dude probably the fourth and that's just I'm gonna say.
(39:22):
I'm gonna do it like a high faux five right
now you right now, right now, high four five, a
full five nine. I'm gonna do a pulled hamstring. So
we are good to go. Hey, all of our viewers,
wherever you pick us up at where if you watch
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(39:44):
Apple podcasts. iHeartRadio Man, Peanut, this is another great one.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
All we doing is dropping bangers, dog. All we do
is win, win, win. No matter what I think, I
made that up. Y'all ain't never heard of that. I'm
pretty sure you do not. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
All I do is win, win, win. I'm Peanut, NFL
player Second Acts Podcast. He left because he's mad, But
I didn't make that lyric up. He stolen from me.
That's all I'm saying. I'm Peanut till me I'm out
I'm Peanuts woman, and this is the NFL player Second
Acts with an ass podcast. My guy Roman Harbor with me.
Why he's smiling, why he laughing right now? Because you're
just a funny guy. It's gonna it's not gonna show
on tape, but you're just a funny guy. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Anyways, all of our viewers, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We love you.
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We like to respond at times wherever you pick up
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the beautiful guests today? Andrew Hawkins, Troy Jones, Chris Johnson
(00:57):
two K one call him c J two K s
e J two.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
OK.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hey, we got a good one for y'all. Right now,
we're gonna kick the first one off with Hawk and
Troy Jones to check it out, just the first duo.
We got two talented brothers, NFL legends, Troy Jones Andrew Hawkins.
They're in the gaming. They got a whole lot of
stuff and in the games on TV now too. He
on TV and he'd be acting at everything and everything everything.
(01:24):
I mean before me, I mean, can we just put
the shoes up? Can we put the shoes up?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Out up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just like hawks? And he invented Chelsea boots.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So I had to make sure I came right, because
it's okay, Mark, it's been business.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So the last time y'all were here, y'all had this
the the VR game, and y'all had Lamar Jackson on there.
After y'all left Super Bowl, I went out, I got
the VR, I bought the game. I damn near broke
something because when I was trying to throw it took
me a minute to figure out how to throw the football.
I figured, I mean, I dam here through myself and
(02:09):
a controller like I got. I got so into it,
it's real.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You because I'm imagining you. It was yo.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I was sweating. I'm over there dodging trying to throw
them things. I couldn't figure out how to so at
first I was just trying to, like like with the weed,
you just kind of do that in it, like you
really gotta throw it like you. I swear, Oh my mama,
you you you really have to try to throw that thing.
I was overthrowing it. I was underthrowing it. I was like, damn,
(02:40):
this is a lot harder than I thought. So shout out.
First off, shout out to y'all. It's it's legit. It's
a y'all. U s d A certified. Put a stamp
on that's real. That is like, it's real. Put a
stamp a it's put a stamp on it. It's real,
it's certified.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You heard it here man anytime players, Yeah, put it on.
And that's their response that what better marketing is that?
Because who knows what that experience is like better than you, guys.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
We'll take a cut of it. If that's playing.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I pawork.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But how much has so the other day? Lamar Jackson?
He wins the MVP is the second one. Yeah, how
has from last year to this year? How has that
been going? With sales? I know you guys been busy.
Uh you've raised a ton of money, like talk about that?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yes, I mean to answer your first question, thanks are
going good with sales. We was able to cross a
million users in less than fifteen months, which is tough
and any consumer product, any gaming market. So shout out
to our team for that. And as far as Lamari obviously, yeah,
he's been on this ride all the way through. And
we we started out with a vision say each year
it was going to get better, you know, operating like athletes,
taking that mindset, applying it to the product, and it's
(03:58):
been It's been well received, man, I mean, people are
having fun. I would say the most exciting thing for
us is we just getting started, you know, like anything.
We were the first people to ever launch our first
fully licensed sports game, MVR. So now that we got
user data, now that we got people in the headset
giving feedback, you could take it up. Not because you
got that data, you know what to go back and
improve that we're focusing on applying thatt, I would go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I was gonna say, the cool thing for us is
that people have been along the ride and the journey
with us, you know, I mean, we knew that we
had a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Perspective that people wanted to see.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
The tough part was obviously bringing it to life and
communicating it in a way where people understood what the
proposition was. To your point, we just raised our series
A Round, which is led by Google, and our quest
is to be the go to place to build first
person sports. There's a level of access that fans have
never had, which is on the field that we felt
like as athletes we could provide. And the biggest tech
(04:49):
companies in the world have backed us and aligned with
us to bring that to life. And now you guys
know that that's no easy feet and we've done it
by being ourselves. We've done it by hiring a diverse team.
We've done on it by hiring former athletes who you know,
might also be engineers, might also be incredible marketers, might
also be producers, along with the expertise of people who
(05:11):
have built sports games for a very long time, and
that has allowed us to accelerate to get to the
point that we are so quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I wish I was a STEM student. I could be
talking to y'all. I could be codd. I wish I
wish I was a STEM I could be stay in
your life. You don't want to, So my question is
(05:40):
this all right? Number one? When you talk about the
biggest money backers in in these spaces backing you guys,
Number one, I want you guys both to tell me,
how does that make you feel to know that you're
the ones that people believe in, Because it's something to
be said when people like, man, I'm with you, dog,
but when they put their money behind you, that's a
different level of belief. And then also what's next. I
(06:02):
know we're talking about the gameplay the other things, but
it's always on the next evolution because you got to
stay in front of it because it's not the one
in front of you that you ever worry about, it's
the one behind you. That's why I bash you up
that you have to look out for I would say
for people to back us the way that they have.
I mean, it's incredibly humbling.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I know that's cliche, but we probably need to do
a better job of soaking in those moments like that
because sometimes we take it for granted, not because we
don't appreciate it, but because when you hear three hundred
no's from people who aren't google right right, that just
have an effect on you. Sure, and so it's like
you have to do so much to show and prove.
(06:41):
We've had to show them better than we could tell anybody.
And I think the thing that makes us special or
the thing that we're most proud of. And I let
Troy answer this question as well. But it's like, we've
done what we said we're going to do. And as athletes,
you don't get to the level you guys, you don't
get to what we're doing unless you have that condition, conviction,
(07:05):
you have that obsession, and your focus is not the
press releases. Your focus is not how people talk about you.
Your focus is not making sure when you come into
a room people want to bow down and kiss the ring.
Your focus is I said, I'm going to do something.
That's all I care about is making sure that I
do it, and over time, the right people will see
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that and go along with the journey.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And I think that's what's happened for us. Yeah, I said,
I mean, basically that add on to what he said.
We're not taking that face value, right, So we go out,
we're talking about what we're going to do, and what
we've done is some skepticism to it, just being honest.
So like athletes, we kind of go into these room
with chips on our shoulder, and when you're the people
that believe in as we internalize that meaning like we
want to preview, right, you know, we think about our story.
(07:49):
You know, my journey is a quarterback Hawk's journey throughout
his playing career, underdogs who had to always work hard
and odds were against us. And it's kind of similar
to that. And as we think about what we're building
our venture and the people who believe in us, that
their family, they believe in a vision, they trust us
our team.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Same thing.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Anyone who comes on this journey with us that that
has joined the company, we make sure that we do
we do right by them by making sure we're keeping
what's top of mind for the what's best for the
company top of mind, right, Like we're never making it
about Troy Hall, you know, so when we talk about things,
it's always like, all right, what's best for the company.
What's going to make sure that everybody that's part of
this thing wins? And I think that's just a byproduct
(08:25):
of just being appreciative, you know what I mean of
them believing in us. And yeah, to this point, we
got to do a better job relash than it. Like
it's not easy, like it is. One percent of founder
founders that raise money are African American, right, So for
us to be in that you gotta you got to
give yourself fowers for that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You gotta tell that story.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But the other side of it is like, we got
work to do and we know that if we win,
everybody wins behind us versus, you know, just being happy
like with that and being happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Type of type mindset, you know, so on on behalf
of like myself in Rome. I want to take out
a little bit of cash right now, I got twenty
I want to I want to back y'all. I don't
get you point oh oh hey, this is from rooming on.
(09:15):
This from both of us. You gotta do it like smoke.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He did you know twenty twenty two right.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's both of us investment in the tech up series.
He's like half a cold, half a character. We're gonna
spend fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
In the uber.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's just trying to get to the bank. Put that
money into the account. You said one percent. Man, I'm
trying to be a part of us.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm trying to take us to one point one. You
know what I'm saying. Hey, I'm a stim suit. I'm
in an arms So I got a question for you.
I know you're in the TV. Talk about some of
the TV some of the TV shows, movies, some of
the some of the projects that you're working on or
have been in.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yes, I mean entertainment is obviously a big part of
the pie chart that I've gotten into after football, and
I think that's where Status Pro and Pro Era playing too,
and where I've gotten a lot of that knowledge of saying, Okay,
this is what I think fans will gravitate to because
I feel that reception and all the things that I've done.
So I'm out ESPN now as an NFL analyst. Obviously,
(10:21):
I produced, was an executive producer of hair Love, which
one I Oscar. Another executive producer of To Live and
Die and Live which was a dope movie that premiered
at sun Dance last year. Have a couple of projects
and developments and comedy projects. Worked at spring Hill Entertainment
for a long time before I left there to go
to the Status Pro full time, and then they invested into
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the company. So I think what you're going to see
from sports technology and specifically what we're doing at Status Pro,
there's a lane where these worlds will merge, and that's
kind of what we've always envisioned of how do you
enhance the sports experience of fans, And we had to
find a thing that we're experts at and just drove
down in there.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're not trying to be anybody else.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
We're not trying to take away from when anybody else
is built from a gaming or entertainment or how they
you know, show up with fans. But for us, if
we can build an appetite for feeling, for seeing what
it's like to be on the field, we will always
be the leaders because that's something you only know if
you've been there.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That was our whole idea around the company. I love that.
I think the world is literally changing, like right in
front of us, because you know, we've just seen the goggles,
the things that people are just walking around normal and
stuff like this is normal. It's not it's not normal normal,
you know what I mean. So you guys are definitely
ahead of the curve. But like you guys have seen
this and now that everybody else is starting to catch up.
(11:42):
So I'm still in my mind like, Okay, how do
you guys continue to just grow and like what's the
next game or what's the next you know, or now
we're going to be able to be a wide receiver
where now you got people like Peanut running through the house,
like so it's saying, what is going to be that
next little part. I'm really excited to see what you
guys do because this was just last year that we
(12:02):
got introduced to this, right and in one year, like
you said, sixteen months, yeah, you guys have I'm over
a million, yeah, a million one point one million years. Yeah,
and like you guys are learning so much more from them.
So I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I wanted out.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He didn't to tell me I don't have anything virtual.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You didn't hand me that twenty four dollars to think.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I tried to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I try to make it up, you know what I mean.
But I want to know, like what's next? And so
like where do you guys see this going? For you
guys to your point in that length, we've.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Been in this space since twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, and
I think when you're obsession obsessing over something like you
think about you know, because we believed in it, we're
thinking about five, ten, fifteen years ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So obviously we'll continue to scale.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The NFL product we'll be able to make it more
social where people can experience the game with their friends.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So what does it look like for you to build virtual.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Teams so you to hang out in stadiums and and
just have unique experiences. Become a platform that way to
where you can't experience football in a number of ways
in the NFL product. But we want to go across
different sports too, So any and everything that's first person
sports we want to own. So that's basketball, that's baseball,
as boxing, as soccer. Right, the goal is to really
leverage what we've done in the NFL and continue to
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carry this out through multiple sports, which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People believe in the vision.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Obviously, technologies finally getting to the point where everybody's paying
attention and we're going to keep keep pushing forward.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's cool because when Troy and I first met, which
was like I think the end of twenty sixteen or
early twenty seventeen, we spoke in terms of what was
coming in ten years, and we were like, yo, in
ten years, these big clunky headsets will be smaller.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
There won't there'll be wireless.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
There was no wireless HEAs at the time, and our
whole mindset was preparing for what the next ten years
was going to look like. It's crazy that was seven
years ago now and it doesn't feel like it was
that long.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But to your point of people walking.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Around and VR goggles and imagine where it's going to
be three fore years from now. So, just like an athlete,
when you get to the league or you've worked your
hardest to become who you are, you don't so much
focus on of like, oh what's next. You just get
better every day. You watch your film from the practice
before and you're like, man, I got to get that foot, Yeah,
I got straighten that out because I'm losing a step.
I got to make sure I get my hands on
this receiver sooner. And it's like you just start to
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enhance because now you put yourself so far in front,
and if you keep getting better, you don't got to
worry about who's behind.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's kind of how we approach the experience we have,
like we're just going to keep making it better. We
want more positions, we want more competitive nature. We want
you to play linebacker, we want you to play receiver,
whence you play running back. We want you to play basketball, baseball,
and we want to be the place when you think
of first person sports status, pro is it. This is
the gaming software that allowed us to see field level
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sports that we love across the gamut.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I want to give you some love too, because I
can't wait to see the first YouTube video somebody playing
linebacker on you guys' thing and come dive through a wall.
They just totally don't recognize that you should not be
diving like that, because I see it in boxing, people
doing boxing. Somebody get it all the time. You know,
it's funny.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
We see so many viral videos of like uncles running
through closet walls, and you know, we got to act
like we don't even see it, Like, yeah, you see
that video with six.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Million here our game in the background, I can't prove it.
Talking about brothers well fellas, Hey man, we appreciate Sean.
I'm actually curious to see what happens next year when
y'all come on the shop. I feel like this show
is the good luck charm. This is it. I can't
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wait to see you guys come back next year. You
guys be doing even bigger and better things. I think
that in the boot game right, Peter even had joints
like that. Things is five. That's what we say them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Things is far.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Look this is Peanut Tillman. We got trop we got Halt,
we got the Black Bruce Wayne, we got my guy Room.
Check us out Info Players, Second Act Podcast, Apple Pod Podcasts,
iHeart Radio. Give us a link. Five stars. Tell a
friend and tell her what to tell her? What tell
a friend? That's what I'm talking about. Hey, super Bowl
fifty eight we out, let's go feed. Yes, we're gonna
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take a short break and we'll be right back. First
of all, those dudes are killing the game. It was
funny because we saw them last year, last year and
they were still just kind of getting their feet a
little bit, a little bit more wet, really diving into it.
Peanut went out and bought some stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I did.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Damn near killed myself trying to play that game. It's dope,
though it was super nice. Damn near killed myself. But
they really are heading in well on their ways to
being the virtuality of sports. I'm just a little disappointed
that they didn't take my investment. I gotta make it enough.
It's all good. Both of us from the collection played
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our next guest. Trust me, hell of a ballplayer. I
mean they had the fastest forty times in Combine history
for a long time. CJ two K, CJ two K
aka Chris Johnson. Our next guest is a good one.
He's gonna remember this. Let me read a little bit
of his resume because it is extremely impressive. Drafted twenty
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fourth overall first round draft pick to the Tennessee Titans
back in two thousand and eight, played ten NFL seasons
two thousand and nine offensive Player of the Year rush
for over two thousand yards, Yes, sir, and he set
the NFL record for the most scrimmage arge over twenty
five hundred. Since retiring, he's invested in real estate and
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he has a chain of successful coffee shops called Just
Love Coffee. Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the podcast. Chris Johnson,
CJ two K, CJ two K having CJ two K.
That's the name right there. Two thousand. I don't even
draw that far bro you ran. I don't even that
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far man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I want to know this before we jump into it,
because I remember when you ran the forty. That's what
put you on the map. Nobody if you didn't watch
Eastern Carolina football. We didn't know who Chris Johnson was, right,
and I don't think the NFL knew either. And you
ran this forty at the combine? Could you talk about
that moment and all of a sudden how it changed everything?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
A man, it was crazy because like going into the combine,
like I was probably like a second third rounder, you
know what I'm saying, I had all the film to
match and stuff like that, a lot of people didn't
know about me. But before then we did the Junior Day.
So Junior Day, want to see I think a East
Carolina probably like probably like three scouts came out or whatever.
(18:49):
Three scouts I ran, Yeah, but I ran a four
one nine there, Oh wow, I ran a four one nine.
So that's what kind of got it wasn't you know
what I'm saying. Still one overly known and or whatever
like that. And then so I did my thing my
senior year, and then in the bowl game and the
Hawaii Bowl, I had four hundred dollars purpose yards and
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then so I was on the cut second third round
and then like, man, at the combine, after I read
that forty, it's just when everything went through the roof.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It went crazy. That went crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So after that I had like I had sixteen schedule
visits after after the combine, like it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That was yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, so uh do you remember that that twenty twelve
game when Chicago came to Tennessee. You have refreshed my memories.
So you had a good one. So I believe where
the scroll we won fifty one to twenty. That's when
(19:49):
that's when you said that record that game. Yes, he did, he.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Said that record what it was four or five?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It was four. Yeah, that was a fun game. That
was a game. I just at some point on the ode,
y'all gotta be like, can y'all just not let this
guy puss? I don't know what the conversation was on
the sund coveration.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Was like, man hold on to the to the damn boll?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
What is it like for the during the week of practice,
did anyone say.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
After after you that next week coming I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Talking about the week leading up to us, did anyone
talk about it?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, it was all taught about it because it was
always known. They you know, the peanut punching. You know
what I'm saying, Like you're gonna get that ball or
whatever like that was talked about so extra ball security
this week, all that stuff, and it's.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Like, so the first play from scrimmage, we get Kenny
Brick and force fumble. What was the conversation was solid?
Right after that one?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It was just crazy, like we talked about this and
you the first play this happened, so it's like we
already fighting out up here at them, you know what
I'm saying. And then like me myself, I never like
I never fumbled, like I didn't. So we come out
there and I fumbled it and one of those phones
was questionable on that I had a catch, So it
was like a bang bang player. But I feel like
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they knew he was going for the record that was
so they gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But yeah, man, he had a real good game.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Man, you had You had a good one too, though
you ran. You still rush for like one hundred and
forty one yards, sixteen carries, like you still did your thay.
He had an eighty yard run, just took it to
the house. I didn't even try to chase him, like, yeah,
let it go. Don't put that on tape, dog, don't
you put that on tape.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Just let him get that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I want to know this what was your you know
you won the offensive player that you're in two thousand
and nine. Do you have a signature play, a signature
moment of that season or something that really just sticks
out to you and that that that season, because I
know you broke off.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
A ton of long runs, but I think my signature
I ain't gonna say it just went play. But it
was a game against Jacksonville. Me and Jones Rue was
like going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Remember that game.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think total rushing off between me and him, It
was like almost five hundred yards, like, but we was
going back and forth, like he'll break along when I
break alone. It was just like going back and forth
the whole game, and it was like it's like it
kind of like was like in my head and going
back thinking about it, it was like a boxing mass
where like, you know, he hit you with a big blow,
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I come back here hit you with a big blow,
and then I end up with the last big blow
to the knock him out. We end up winning the game,
and I end up finishing with more yards and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So that's a signature game for me.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
How competitive did you get it? When you're not making
any tackles, but you got another really good running back
on the opposite sideline. Do you take it personally like
I got outshine?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, I definitely say that personally, like that's something I
used to always.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Have in my mind, like I got to outshine the
other guy.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And then another thing like with me was like even
though AP came in a year before me and I
was asking, we were still the same.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We graduated high school together.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
He came out early, but it was like always like,
you know what I'm saying, I got an outdo Ap.
You know what I'm saying, because that was while we
was in the league. That was always the talk who
the best back out of me and AP? So if
he played earlier, then I played what AP did today?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A lot of time, I know and I in a
lot of stadiums, they usually put the.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Highlights in the yards up like that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
If he just bro for seventy got to do something,
so like yeah, you always going to compete and compete
against the other running back on the other team too,
and I'll do him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So. Adrian Peterson one of the greatest, another a great
running back to UH to play the game. UH yourself.
Is there a running back today who you think can
rush for two thousand yards with what you see with
I see where running backs we have?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well, first of all, the way that the offenses is
going in the NFL today, I don't think it can happen.
The last guy to do it, Darren Henry. They were
still running the old school offense where they gonna give
him a ball twenty twenty five game. But has it
changed that it's different? But a physic guy that's capable
of it, I would say. I would say Jamar Gibbs,
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if they if they, if they give him the bar,
how they should give him the ball. I think he
can do it. I think sa Quan could do it,
but they'll never give him the ball like that. S
Quan can do it, Jamar can do it. And if
Nick Chubb can stay heal, yeah, yeah, I really believe
he can.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I would say the same thing about Saquon too, because
Saquon it's always some little tweak or something. He's just
trying to stay healthy. But when he is healthy, he's explosive.
Like you're saying, I would like to know this. I
want your opinion. As a running back, there was drafted
in the first round because now they like, you shouldn't
draft a run back in the first round. How the
outlook on running backs going forward? How has it changed?
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What do you see the future in it? And also
the devaluing of the running back or the star running back.
But now it's running back by committee.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
See I hate a lot of times like when they say, oh,
you can get this guy in the third, fourth, fifth round.
How I've never seen you get a Chris Johnson an
a Adrian Peterson, like Barry Sanders, jar Mark Gibbs. You know,
you don't see these guys lasting to the fourth, fifth.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Round and things like that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now you might catch a guy in the third, fourth round,
fifth round they come in and you know they have
a good career. Yeah, but what guy is you gonna
really name? That can be like oh I did what
AP did, I did what CJ did that? Oh yeah,
I went and got him in a fifth round or
the fourth round. And a lot of times some of
those guys that they may catch, they don't tell the
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backstory behind it. That guy probably could have got hurt
coming out of college, had character issues.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Why it's a reason why he went LA.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It went't just like, oh, this guy not talented enough
to be a first rounder. We can wait and get
him in the fourth round and he goes crazy. No,
they don't tell the backstory behind it. So that's why
I don't like when they say that. You know what
I'm saying. So and it's just like this year, you
look at you Jamior Gills, he was a first rounder.
B John Robinson, he was a first rounder. Like, I
don't see how running bass can go in the first
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round no more when you see the talent that's coming out, and.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's crazy because everybody was like questioning Jamior Gibbs and
then all of a sudden they saw in play, especially
down the stretch when you figured it out electric player. Yeah,
we're going to take a short break and we'll be
back in a minute. So making that transition after you,
after you retire, go back to school, you get your
(26:26):
degree in communications, and congratulations, congratulations, you get into you
start investing in coffee. Just love coffee, yep, and talk
about how well, first off, you got a must You
must really love coffee to invest in it. And I
know y'all have what twenty you have about twenty six locations?
(26:47):
You know, how did you get invested in this, like
what what what made you want to do that?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, the crazy thing is like when I first, like
when I first retire, right going through that phase where
it's like dang, like I'm used to being on the
schedule every then in my life nothing doing. It's like dang,
like what I'm gonna do? Like the transition is hard.
So the first thing, my first initial thing what I
did was I went back to school. Yeah, so doing
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a lot of online classes and stuff like that. And
then like going through that a lot of time I
used to do, like it used to be sometimes be
sitting in the house and I'm just like like bored,
Like shit, i gotta get out. So I used to
go to like different coffee shops and like study and
do all that type of stuff and just sitting and
I'm like, man, it's kind of dope, man Like, and
I just see how many people come in and out,
(27:31):
Like sometimes you see some of the same people come
in and out all day getting coffee, you know what
I'm saying. I'm like, man, this would probably be dope,
you know what I'm saying. So then so I'm like, man,
I'm just just try it out. You know what I'm saying,
And I got into that type of way or whatever.
So my first initial thing was I'm gonna get a
coffee shop, so it was a franchise or whatever like that,
(27:52):
and then COVID hit or whatever like that, and I'm like, man,
I know, like I want to build this brand and
things like that, like with us some way, like what
can I do, like to become bigger, you know what
I'm saying, and not just hold myself to like this
individual store. So I'm like, man, you know what, I'm
gonna just go to the owners of the company and
stuff like that, see if I can invest and see
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if I can be part owners. So I went to
from just owning one individual store to becoming part owner
of the whole brand or whatever like that. And I
just felt like it was smart idea because next, like
if we talk about addiction and we're not talking about
like nothing illegal, not drugs or like you know what
I'm saying, Like coffee is like people are addicted to coffee,
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like they have to have it. And a lot of
times people think, oh, the hot coffee in the morning
where we grew up thinking, but no, people love ice
coffee and they drank that all throughout the day, all
through how to win.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No, I'm not my grandmothers was.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
So when I when I used to come up, like
in middle school and high school, my grandma and I'm
like and like my aunties and uncles and stuff, like
every weekend, like every Saturday, Saturday morning, everybody used to
come to my grandmother house because I who I lived
with my grandmother, Like everybody used to come there every
Saturday morning. They used to be there like like eight
in the morning, all sitting down on the porch just
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drinking coffee, sent around talking and stuff like that. So
like that's my first initial introduction to coffee.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Now you got a signature, You got a signature, Blend. Yeah, yeah,
I gotta like some lemon, some raisins, yeah, limen raisin.
I never would have thought like lemons and raisins and tea.
I never would have thought that would have went together.
Like we came up who and how did you come
up with that? And it was crazy like that, Blend.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
So at the main office, like it's a coffee tasting room,
you know what I'm saying, Like you got all there's
probably like twenty thirty different coffees you can taste, you
know what I'm saying. So just sitting there tasting all
the different coffees and getting up blend, putting together and
then whatever the best one that I like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You know what I'm saying. I just went with that. Okay,
I just went.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Like, tell me about it. Sounds like it just went great.
But I want to know about like a pitfall, something
you didn't see happening outside of COVID that you learned
from this coffee business. Like, man, this is everybody just
needs to look out for this because this is what's
really out there.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well that that coffee business kind of got me into
the next one. As far as real estate, you know
what I'm saying. So I do real estate now, so commercial.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Residential, airbnbsbnbs, So just getting into the coffee business and
running the restaurant and things like that, like dealing with employees,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, like you may be saying because you're that type
of business coffee shop you got, you got high school workers.
Basically you may have some freshmen college workers, but you're
dealing with kids, you know what I'm saying. So you're
dealing with kids and sometimes you're dealing with their parents
and stuff like that. So it's like going into that
that let me know that, like I really don't want
(30:58):
to do nothing involved with having to deal with people,
like having deal with employees. I rather deal with real
estate is cutting dry. This is what it's going to be.
You don't have to worry about, Oh, this person can't
show up to work today. All of that type of
stuff is just a headache. Everybody complays about that.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The people.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You got a manage on on personalities. I guess it's
kind of like being a head coaches. Fifty three people
on the team, You got fifty three personalities that you
got to manage, right, right, So I got a question
for you. We all I got eleven. I'm sorry you
got eleven. I got thirteen hundred years and ten. We
all have that moment where we get rocked or something
crazy happens that you didn't expect, like, damn, this is
(31:42):
the league, this is this is real. What was your
welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mine was Wiz playing Will's playing Cleveland Browns my rookie
year and they had the Quel Jackson you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Know, Mike linebacker, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
My linebacker. All he wanted to do is that?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And it's so crazy that that that you was with
Chicago because I thought I was gonna have my coming
welcome to the NFL moment when I was going against
Brian Urlacker. But once I played against him, I feel
like he's more a finesse linebacker.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You know what I'm saying. But what the quest? Jackson?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He want to thay every chance he gets, every chance
he gets. So I come through the middle, he hit me.
I go this way. My mouth fees go the other way.
This real deal right here?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Is that the hardest you ever been in?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got back up. Now I'm
gonna get back up.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It was it like the program Darnell Jefferson. Were you just.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I was more embarrassed. I'm like, dang my, he's not
my mouth feet side. My question is I want to
know what you think you would run a forty in
right now?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right now? Yes? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
When was the last time you rann? I I mean
you look like you used to work out, but like
I'm talking about, like run.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I ran for four speed. It's been a while. I
just do cardio like ire around the neighborhood. I don't
run like now I.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Don't do it's a don't come around that dog, come.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Round like realistically, I think I can run a fullfo
right now?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You run fook? If you hit four five, you probably
like mad.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm running so far. I know I can run a
full fok.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Okay to Yo said he ran a four four two
or four four two years ago in t City.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah yeah, if he ran that, I know I can run.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So you bet that you think? Okay, no, no question.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
If you think about it, like it's forty yards.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I know that might be five right now, right not
a full four. I think I could do a full
five right now. Dude. I barely hit fox fo when
I was in my best shape at twenty two twenty three?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What was your best forty?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Four four five?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, somewhere around there you wou'd you say you're in.
We don't have to talk about it. Okay, let's just
focus on Chris here, on Christ here. I know fast,
people like to run fast. Let's just focus on Chris.
I'm good with that. You're cool with that?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right? Cool? Go ahead? So, uh you got a
podcast one of your former teammates Lindell and White and
how's that been going and what is like how how
what do you guys talk about on your podcasts?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Right well, we talk about just life, everything that's going
on life, all social problems and all that stuff. I mean, honestly,
we kind of we took a break right now because
we was doing a lot of zoom like over zoom
and stuff like that, and like they kind of got
boring to me. I like, more in person seeing him
is way better, you know what I'm saying. It's way better,
Know what I'm saying. You have more fun with it,
(34:48):
you look more forward to it, and stuff like that.
So right now we just rebranding and like just trying
to figure out because he lives in Denver, I live
in Orlando, So we're just trying to figure out a
schedule we can get together and like just make content.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And release it and make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's kind of how ours started out. We did the
whole zoom at first, and then did an event for
the league. It was totally differ, totally different vibe, and
once then yeah, we gotta.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, like are y'all close, Like y'all stay in the same.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, no, no, I'm in Chicago. He lives in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
How y'all write that out?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We just I don't know. We we just make it work. Yeah,
we just He's he's our he's our guru.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Shout out to Thomas.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Shout out to Thomas. Ye right now, because he just
he saw a little star Cress High School. He he
just he completely changed. He made his leader over here,
brought out a little many vacuums doing the most. So
it's all good. But c J, I want to know
(35:55):
this from you because we asked this to all of
our guests and Mount rushmore of influence, like the people
that have impacted you the most in your life, in
my life, ball off the field, on the field, life
in general. You get four Who are those four?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
B Okay one I would say my well, one of them,
I would say my great grandmother. Okay, that was my
great grandma, Like live with them my whole time growing up.
So like I came up like my mom and dad,
they was I was with them too, Like I ain't
gonna say they weren't about it was in my life.
But like I always wanted to live with my grandmother.
(36:29):
So it was crazy because I stayed with two of
my grandmothers. So I stayed with my great grandmother and
my and my grandmother. Yeah you know what I'm saying.
So I grew up with them, so like just seeing
how hard they work, how they hustled and stuff and
like to always provide and stuff like that. Those are
those are two. And I gotta say my oldest brother.
(36:50):
Like I always wanted to be like my oldest brother
because when I was younger, my mom wouldn't let me
play football because she thought that I was gonna get
her call little. But she always let my brother play,
so like.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Every year, so she let him play, but you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, but he's my oldest He was my oldest brother.
So he's five years older than me. So he's my
oldest brother. So I got three older brothers. He the oldest.
So every year, like all the way up until like
seventh grade, every year, like he used to be like
just working out, training stuff like that. I used to
be right there with him working out and training and
stuff like that. And when it comes time for the
(37:23):
football season, she let him playing. Well never let me play,
so I do all his work for no reason. So
finally she eventually let me play. But like just seeing
like he's the reason why I played football, like why
I always wanted to play football and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So like he's one and then another guy.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I got to say, Vince Young Man, Like okay, yeah,
Vince Young was a guy like when I came to
When I came to the league, he was in the
quarter back got it took me on his wings and
just just to see the type of person he is
and like no matter like whatever was going on with him,
and like when everything was going on with him, like
he never changed or anything like that, Like he took
(38:05):
it on the chin and like and still like to
this day, like that's my brother man, and he's still
doing great for himself. And like even though he didn't,
like we knew how good Vince was, and even though
he didn't have this long career or play like that,
like he got no ill wheels or anything, like you
wouldn't even know you're thing. He played fifteen years in
the league. Like when you get around him, like he's
(38:26):
just still chill. He the same guy. He acted the
same right now, the same guy that I met the
first day I walked in the locker room to how
he is now today.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So that's awesome. Little consistency with that, I wouldn't guess Vince, y'all,
I wouldn't either not see that them out rushmore. So
thanks c J two K man. We appreciate you coming
on the shop man. Hopefully they zoom in on all
this ice my man got because you know, if you
don't know who it is, I'm cold. I mean clearly
I got you. I got goosebumps. Okay, good, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Love what he's doing with Just Love Coffee, Chris Johnson.
He's killing it with the franchise business man. I love
what he's doing the business, mind, the real estate. Like
he's just man, I'm proud of him. He's on amazing things.
I'm just happy that he said he can still run
like a four to four and when challenged, I'm like, dude,
this dude probably the fourth and that's just I'm gonna say.
(39:22):
I'm gonna do it like a high faux five right
now you right now, right now, high four five, a
full five nine. I'm gonna do a pulled hamstring. So
we are good to go. Hey, all of our viewers,
wherever you pick us up at where if you watch
us or listen to us, give us a five star rating,
give us a follow, click that subscribe button, leave a
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(39:44):
Apple podcasts. iHeartRadio Man, Peanut, this is another great one.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
All we doing is dropping bangers, dog. All we do
is win, win, win. No matter what I think, I
made that up. Y'all ain't never heard of that. I'm
pretty sure you do not. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
All I do is win, win, win. I'm Peanut, NFL
player Second Acts Podcast. He left because he's mad, But
I didn't make that lyric up. He stolen from me.
That's all I'm saying. I'm Peanut till me I'm out
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