On this episode of the NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, Saints All-Pro Cam Jordan joins Peanut and Roman for an entertaining and enlightening conversation. Cam starts off telling the guys why the 2011 Draft class he was in is the greatest in NFL history, and who he feels from that class will one day join him in the Hall of Fame. Cam shares how’s worked to shed the “second base” nickname he came into the league with as the son of former Pro Bowl tight end Steve Jordan. Cam already holds the Saints all-time sack record at 117.5, but he tells the guys his new career goal which would put him among the NFL’s all-time greats. Plus, with Super Bowl 59 coming to New Orleans, Cam talks about what it would mean to win the Lombardi Trophy in his home city. All that, and much more! Stay tuned!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the next five to eight years, there'll be ten,
possibly seven to ten Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Can you give me a couple of names?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Going to say myself, but hello, Hi. I think Cam
Hayward's on the cusp.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
You know there's hello can we did he just gloss
over that. I'm not going to introduce myself. Hello Hill,
What was a good one? Thank you for tuning in.
I'm Peanut to himing and this is the NFL Player
(00:34):
Second Acts podcast. My guy Roman Harper with me. What's up?
Why are you laughing right now? Why you got that
pretty small on your face?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, because our guests just gave you the craziest look.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He wasn't ready.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
He was not ready, not ready? Why was he not ready?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Because he knows you and that was a lot of
energy and that was really good by you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So you know, I've just talked about a little coffee shot.
Let me bring the juice.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, it was like bo bo man, it all just
happened really fast.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
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Please please continue to hit that follow button, share five
star ratings, all the works. Peanut, who is our guest today.
He's a great friend of mine. I've seen him since
he was a young pup. Go ahead, well, this young
pub has aple beard. Okay, this young bub has a
full beard. Apro Bowls, three time All Pro. He says
(01:32):
the twenty eleven draft class is somehow the best draft class,
draft class we'll see. He has his own podcast, Off
the Edge with Cam Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, Cam Jordan,
appreciate what's going on. Welcome to the Welcome to the pot.
Why now, why do you think the two thousand eleven
draft classes?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, there's there's there's great draft class. So yeah,
I'm sure you guys can mention all thes we're part of.
That doesn't really hold a candle bars, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Is it just because you're saying, did you have like
something to say that first round was stronger? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I mean some would say in the next five this
eight years, there'll be ten, possibly seven to ten Hall
of famers out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Can you give me a couple of names? I don't
know this draft class. You would say von Miller, von Miller, Okay,
lock A.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
De Green may get there. I'm not going to say
lock may get there. We're going to say Peterson, Julio
might get in there.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Julio, Pat p Julio, you know, JJ Watt.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know, I'm not going to say myself, but Hello, Hi,
I think Cam Hayward's on the cusp. You know, there's
if you look, if you look at our draft class,
it's just was hard to miss, you know, it was
just unless you said the quarterbacks, because after Cam, then.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, it got real slippery.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hello, can we did he just gloss over that? I'm
not going to introduce myself. Hello, Hi, Well I was
a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
First of all.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I like that. I love that because I think Cam
has had it outstanding career up to this point. It's
been a real blessing for me to actually saw and
sit here and watch his whole maturity and his growth
and all those other things. What I really have a
question about, because I do think you will be in
the Hall of Fame. You've got the numbers, yes, and
your numbers one hundred and seventeen and a half sacks
(03:17):
that's outstanding. I didn't I didn't realize until after you
hit one hundred how happy I was for you.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But anyways, what was your first like welcome to the
NFL moment?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh man, Because that's weird because your dad played in
the league. Yeah, I know you've been around in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
There were so many of them.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But I think now with you just sitting here, I
know for sure it was probably like it took sixteen
weeks for me to get.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
A sack, no doubt. You know. I saw this guy
push Cam. He pushed Cam Newton like he was like Cam,
I'm just going to push.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I didn't push Cam Newton. I smacked Cam Newton like
he was.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Going to fall.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He didn't wrap up. He just hit him and like
but not hit him. That was three hundred pound Camp.
That is fifteen pounds heavier than a what I normally
play at. Now, this is like a grown man, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I and I sat Cam hit him dead in
the chest and this man like Cam ate it like
lifted a couple of feet, landed, turned, ran, completed the
pass like it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Was I said, oh telling you, I don't realize we
all looked at.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It like Cam that was it. That was it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He just my bad guys.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
That was my rookie was a very was It was
a series of could have probably ended with like five
or six and ended with one.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Was that your first season ever only having one sack?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I have no idea. I just had this last season
being destroyed as I was on the leg. I ended
up with two. So like, okay, it was better. There's humbling,
there's humbling moments, and rookie year was one and this
last year was the other.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, okay, So do you remember your first and only touchdown?
Do you know that?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
That?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, Detroit, matt Matt Stafford.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Matthew Stafford, this is the twelve bat and ball by
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
What and ever by Cam Jordan's was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Able to see all off? You got the unsports for
like Conda after the touchdown?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That makes sense, That makes sense. I was originally I
was literally just so hyped.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I was about to I was about to like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like elevate and like hold it up like it was
a trophy and do a little dance. And then the
teammates grabbed me and I was like, next had a
dunk and I was so I went to I went
for a dunk, had to clear it and then nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
What was it to say?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was going crazy that game.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It was like two or three sacks, It was like
four or five TFLs. It was four or five pass deflections.
It was one of those games where you were just
like there's nothing that I can't do, you know, like
when you enter that element, that zone and you're just.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Like you had to glow last, the last drag, had
to glow. You had to clean when you go into
the sideline, You're like, fade me. Coaches like you're down
this series. You're down this series.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, there's way too much choice.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So how did you? How did you?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, because you talked about getting to that zone
all right early on in your career.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Was not that, but you worked at it, Like the
one thing was it?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Not that? It just wasn't that for sacks?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right, I know?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, I was killing the run.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I've never seen anybody as
greatest shape that you've been in as a defensive lineman. Like,
I know you take a lot of pride in your
your ability to run and play every snap the way
that you do. How what do you think that comes from?
And like, how have you just continued to grow?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It came from you Rome, It came from you and
Malcolm Jenkins and John Vilma.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
It came from all you old that way I asked
that question, but that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Being said no, no, no no, because rookies would not yet,
rookies would not make it. And the way that I
came into the league, like they like when I entered
the draft, right before before all this draft stuff happened,
I thought I was gonna be a top fifteen pick.
I went and visited the Saints and Bill Johnson was
the d line coach at the time, sat me down,
was like, hey, baby, love your game.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I don't really don't know why you're here. You won't
be here.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Twenty four and I said yeah. He's like yeah, so
we're just gonna catch them Bevine's and like literally had
a great time. Sounds like ji and sent me on
my way. I get drafted twenty fourth overall. Bill Johnson,
you know whatever it is. We're sitting there talking, I'm like, man,
He's like, man, I didn't think you come now now
look at you. And all that day I was like, damn.
The Saints really loved me. Like they said it was
gonna come get me. They started, They stopped me from falling.
(07:17):
I entered the building, you know whatever that is after
you signed the contract during camp because there was a
lockout year, so I really didn't see anybody till whatever
that was.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Getting to the building, I'm like, yeah, I was like,
Bill loves me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was like, you know, they want me to start,
He's already given me a plan like all this other stuff.
I walk in and I'm like, okay, I know some
of the guys, coach Joe Vitt at the time. You
never met this man a day of my life. Hey, hey,
hey bro, I'm like, you know, and I'm just like
I'm happy, go lucky. I'm I'm drafted, I just signed.
I'm about to get a check, you know, bank bank,
gonna be nice. And then so I walk in, I'm like,
(07:51):
my good morning, like just on some typical like just
happy to be here, smiling, ear to ear a little
heavy because all I've been doing is eating the whole time.
And then you know Joe Vihit, Hey, hey, Roamy, jav
who's this guy over here? Who is this guy who's
those third base talking to me like this? And I'm
just like, bro, all I said, it was good morning.
You know, we had who's our decordinated at the time,
(08:12):
Greg Williams, Greg Greg Williams.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Was there, No, No, that might have been Yeah it
was Greg Greg Williams.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So Greg Willams there and he hit He just resounds
the message. Yeah, these rookies they've come in entitled for
the rest of that year. Would be like, you know
this this third base j j V John Filmo, third
base isn't even right for this guy, this guy born
with the with the diamond spoon in his mouth.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
For those that don't understand, all right, he's correct, he's correct.
He's very correct. So in our locker room at the time,
none of us had had parents or anybody that had
actually been in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So Cam was the only one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
No, he wasn't Mark was.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was me, But he was on.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Offense and we didn't we didn't get down with it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He had a royal time that he had a great
tip over there with the offense, they probably loved him
all the time, not on defense. So Cam comes in
and we made Cam like earn it like it was
like the first But he's a first round pick that
was supposed to be starting. We let him start, but
we didn't like really talk to him, and we said
that he started on second or third base because his
dad played in the league Silver Spoon blah blah blah.
(09:12):
But I think it made him a lot more mentally tough.
And then when now I see him react with like
young people now and he's like, dude, there's no way
these people could have made it. When I came in,
like Jesse couldn't have did it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Man, I'm just the guys come in and like they
want to talk to you on the side, like hey, bro,
like you don't have to go that hard, Like first
of all, you're being yeah, you know. Yeah, it was like,
so I need you to pull your britches up and
be a big boy. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
You've been coddled your whole life, you know, Like now
now like younger guys like you have to you have
to worry about the mentals. I love it, you know,
(09:43):
I love how the game has changed. Yeah, I hate
it at the same time, like, you know, I love
how you know, we focused on prehab, right, you know.
I love how the evolution of the training facilities has changed.
Coaches are tuning into hey, make sure you're getting your
massages and your treatments and all that. When I first
get twenty eleven, that wasn't happening.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Sean Payton kept our training rehab facility at like fifty
five degrees. It was every freezing cold, no TVs. He
didn't want you to enjoy rehab. And he was like, hey,
the longer year out here, the more chance of guys
coming to take your job. And he made it clear,
and you were like, but I'm a first rounder, like
not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Clearly, I got at least three years.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So if the twenty eleven draft was done over again,
where do you think you would go?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Hopefully still New Orleans now that being said.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
He went last to twenty four though, yeah, yah, I
mean hopefully to get up. Would you be a top ten?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think that, I mean the top fifteen already. And
when I saw you know, you know, guys like Alden
Smith go to San Francisco, I really wanted to go
to Frisco at the time. I mean I was at
Berkeley all then.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Kind of ball too early he would fastest to forty
five sacks.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Ball they really missed at our class, you know, like
I remember, Yeah, it'd probably been somewhere in there. I
thought I was. I was like praying to God the
Vikings didn't draft me because its noos.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know how I feel about the cold.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, right, So I want no smoke with anybody that
has a day to day under seventy degrees. If you
if your winter is under fifty, I have problems with you.
I'm a very sweater and shorts and flip flops guy.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Come to New Orleans has totally just messed you up
like that from Arizona. Yeah, my life, California, Chicago, New Orleans.
Guess what I've never.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Had to do? Die on the inside.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Guess what you do with Chicago, Cleveland, the Ohio, the
New York.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm sure you die on the inside every day. You're like, oh,
it's so lovely out here.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's a Chris thirty three terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's my oh you.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'd be calling him when I'm shoveling to drive and
I'm like, yo, man, this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's where you get to work out. It you don't
have to work out because you're shoveling the driveway.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, ain't none wrong with it is terrible. Ain't none
wrong with it? So what's been the key to your success? Though?
Playing at a high level for so long? Since twenty eleven,
in that draft class, you played two hundred and nine
games and counting, you still.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Got out of possible What though to eleven, I feel
like I've missed.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's the most of anybody. That's the most oft anybody
in that draft class. You you have it out of
that whole twenty eleven draft class. Draft class, you got
two hundred and nine games and you're still going, I
believe with one hundred and seventeen and a half. So
I don't really understand how half sacks work.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
But you share them somehow, like this is a huge
thing with him and Junior Gallett with oh my gosh,
this is a people were trying to dive on quarterbacks
and get up fast first today.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Hey whoever could get up first to the Like it
was all so me and you touched room at the
same time, Like how does how does the sack work?
But who touched them?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
For who?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's how you split it if you if you and.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Me, I'm going I got the tack time, I'm going down,
but they come over and try and just hop it,
just hop on, just just got to get in there.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Half it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We really was in there, like we both did all
the work. So like, you know, it's really ours. It's
a group truck project. Come on, everybody. Everybody deserves a
little little yeah, a little something. But what's been your
secret though?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
For just playing out a high level for so long?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Man blessed, highly favored.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, I feel like I feel like my God
would work some mysterious ways. I told all my old heads.
I was like, look, man, I was like, like, poss
play in the league thirteen years, he's six Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Got to get at least.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
One, Yeah, you know, and I came in.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I feel like I came into the right group.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Like I said, all the coaches sort of hard on
me that first year where they told me, like, you know,
they told me young guys had to earn third down,
nothing would be given. And it was like, oh, we
don't let rookies play third down. And then after that
I saw nothing but rookies on third down. It was, yeah,
it's a chip that I'm gonna carry for the rest
of my life. Should but just the idea where I
(13:54):
had to earn that third down, like I was given
a chance to start first and second down.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They wanted me to be a four.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Eye, which is more like a D tackle hybrid, and
I want to be a defensive end and prove my
point that I was like, yo, me on the edge.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Is a problem.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
The thing that I appreciate about Cam and the young
group with Lightning d linemen that we had in New
Orleans was that every single one of them had like
their own very unique celebration. And so I remember, like
it was yesterday, I told Cam and like, Cam, like,
you're starting to get sacks. Now, you got to do
something to kind of separate yourself, Like what's your celebration
(14:29):
going to be? I don't think he had actually thought
about it. White Lightning had where he would like unscrew
a lightning bulb.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I had never understood what that was.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was like, well, he's hite lightning, So maybe is
that is that him he's doing?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
He's doing work, Lightning.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He said, he's doing work. He's just working.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I thought he was, so he was unscrewed down.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, Junior Gled had something, Will Smith had something like everybody.
Cedric Ellis had something like everybody had something, and so
this was like big because now I see Cam do
the same celebration consistently. Now he's on Madden, you know,
leveling up, and so this is like I love it
because like I've seen this man and you talked about
(15:07):
all the things that is going into and how the
hard work and so it's just been really cool to
see Cam continue to grow and now be not only
like a face in New Orleans, but like a face
in the NFL, which is crazy crazy. I like it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I mean it's just crazy to think about, you know,
like especially as a defensive end, especially as coming out
of New Orleans where.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
We're one of the smaller markets.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes, it is for sure, you know, and I think
a lot of things just sort of story hit our
hit our favor. Yeah, you know, we hit a strong
playoff stretch where I felt like we were clearly going
to win one for like three years straight, and even
though we didn't, you know, you got to take advantage
of those opportunities. Things had to stop us, like a
Minnesota miracle, you know, a referee going blind. Maybe he
(15:50):
was looking at the solar eclipse the other day, you know,
he was like there was there was there was clear cut,
you know, reasons why we didn't go and just you know,
but because of that, we also hit a hot stride.
And when you hit a hot streak, you got to
you gotta enjoy the ride.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Okay, do you have a number in mind as far
as like sacks are concerned, where you'll be like, all right,
this is the number.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, seventeen and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So you wanted to get a hunt.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
This is land yep, Like in my life, this is
all land yup in my mind. When I first got
to the league, I wanted I was like, yo, if
I can get fifty sacks, I was like, fifty sacks,
that's a hell of a career. I was like, you know,
there's guys in this league that never get more than ten.
I was like, I gotta get more than ten, all right, because.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Then you're like as the first round, you're you're a
bus You're.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta hit twenty. Yeah, like you
there's like there's somewhere in to stay off that list. Yeah,
of like top ten bus.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, No.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I like thirty five to fifty was my range of
Like I was like, hey, like solid career.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was like, I gotta I was like, I gotta
get a Pro Bowl, like I.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Can't be a failure kid, like you know, in my mind,
it was like, you know, in my mind, it was
a failure not to hit a Pro Bowl. Not like
didn't look at any other metrics of like, oh you
could have a seven, eight to ten whatever, five year career,
A year in the league is still successful, you know,
like you start in the NFL. Absolutely, But in my mind,
I'm like, I'm so, I was so jaded. I was like,
gotta get a Pro Bowl, possi plate for thirteen, Gotta
(17:08):
make ten years, gotta gotta lead, like you know, my
I wasn't looking on the outside of like racing against
anybody except the Jordan last name right, I'm like, like,
what I don't want to be is you know just that? No,
that's the That's Steve's kid. I said, I want to
grow out of that. That whatever Steve's kid is, Like,
I don't want to be that. And that was my metrics.
I was like fifty sacks. So once I hit fifty sacks,
(17:30):
I was like, all right, I gotta I gotta change
my dream up. It's about me now. I was like, okay,
I hit one hundred sacks. You can't tell me I'm
not top thirty defensive end. Ever, there's thirty two team
in the league. If you pick a franchise, I'm still
up there.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So I was like, one hundred sacks, that's the new goal,
and I worked my ass off to get it. Now,
one hundred sacks, I said, okay, I got to reshape
the dream.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So where are you at now?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I didn't. I didn't shoot high enough.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I was like, like, where are you at now?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was like, I was like one fifteen. I was like,
I was like, all right, one fifteen and a half
is the Saints record. I gotta go win sixteen. So
here I'm at one seventeen and a half. I'm like, okay,
what's the next what's the next number? What's the level up?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Are we ready to announce it right now? You said
that I want to go two more years.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm gunning for one thirty this year?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Okay, yeah I like that.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now now I'm just on a year by year. So
now I'm gunning for one thirty. I don't hit one thirty.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Literally, I'm going to watch every Saints game just because
of you. Now, I appreciate that just because of you.
Because I'm gonna be at the crib and I'm gonna
be calling Rome on face up, like yo, he got
another one. He got another one, and I'm gonna send
it to you every game this year because of you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's gonna be me called Grandison, Chase Young, Brian Berzi.
I love I love the odds.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I like it though, man, I like the challenge. That's
that's what's up. I want to see these The kid's
gonna be a good player.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
What my guy, My guy, Brian Ziz is nice.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He's a good player. Yeah, I agree Grandison as well.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
in a minute. So we started our podcast. Well yeah,
we started this podcast as I brought Rome over because
I sucked doing it by myself and I felt like
I needed the Batman Robin Combos so we could do
this thing together. We could tag team. Our message really
is about players in their second acts. Clearly you are
far from that because you're still playing and you have
(19:14):
your own podcast. Now, what made you want to start
that podcast while you were still playing?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh man, me and uh Me and my guy mark.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Ingram had a same best friend.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's my dog. Just you know, just was in
Liberia with him. That's that's my that's my dog. Kids
about the same age, you know. I think he got
married relatively around the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like, life is just great.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Off Off the Edge with Cam Jordan and what you
just said. It's different doing it alone, Like it's it's
so much easier with the friend.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, you got you The vibes are always top
tier when you're doing it with yourself. Just lost.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, but okay, okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What this is what I signed up for.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Bring the juice.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He's like, Hey, we're gonna talk about how he just
blew this bag against Spring Bay somehow, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Bring the Jews today.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know how he lost to this team because
they were abysmal and we were the reason that we
the gain confidence and all of a sudden became a
playoff contender.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I assume it was our game. When you blew, you know,
you blow a seventeen lead.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, I saw you talk to Jordan Love about that, man.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, that'll grind my gears for the rest of my life,
you know, hopefully not hopefully we win one this year
and all I talk about is Lo.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, I remember that you have the Saints want the
Super Bowl twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, I'm not even going to hate,
but I kind of want to hate because the longest
New Orleans goes without winning another championship, they just make
my year that much better. So, not trying to be
a hater, but it's kind of the thought process of
a Highlander, you know, where they can only only be one,
only only one. It's kind of cool. So but not
(20:55):
hating on you, Camp, I mean I would just this situation. Yeah,
he hated. Dude, young players ever come to you now
and try and pick your brain about how you got
to where you at some of your technique, things like
how do you take that now? Because you truly are,
you're the captain, You got all the years on it
that you can have filled up.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, he's that guy. Now you a jet at man.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So but I've seen this whole transition and now you're
coming full circle. So how do you treat that and
how does that go about? And how often does it happen?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Probably since what year two and fourteen when you guys
left when'd you leave two thousand from the Saints twenty What.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
When I left?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah, twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen, yes, so thirteen is my
last time.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That was That was the huge culture shift, right, twenty thirteen?
Roman Harper leaves, So that was fourteen. Yes, So after
thirteen fourteen, Malcolm Jenkins leaves, Roman Harper leaves, Jonathan Vilma leaves,
Will Smith leaves. I look around and I go from
year three four from being just like all right, I'm
figuring my shit out to everybody looking at me like
(22:00):
all right, how do we figure our shit out?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah? I'm like so that was a huge culture shift.
But since then, so since year four ish.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Guys been come my way, hey man, like, how do
you how do you take care of your body?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, I don't take care of my body just yet? Bro,
Like this actually worn's perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
How much do cold tub? I don't cold tub?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Is that weird for you though? For God to ask that?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean, yeah, because you're twenty five and you know
everybody looking at you like, all right, well how do
we do this?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You got a massage?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't really I don't need all that yet, you know,
like and you're you're sitting there, got to figure my
stuff out, but it made you rapidly figure shit out
right to where you're like, all right, well this is
what this is my plan and this is what's worked
for me, and this is how I can help you.
And you know, you had young guys at the time
like John Jenkins and a Keen Hicks you're behind me,
which was great and coral and everything, and you know,
(22:48):
just that sort of culture shift. So I've been leading these,
you know, my D line for ten years now. So
at this point it's routine. Guys come in and I
want to push them to their highest levels. Yeah, I'm like,
you know, I'm on them, like you know, like I'm
gonna coach myself. I'm like, you know, I don't like
your hand placement, and I tell them though, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
If you don't like my hand placement, tell me. At
worst comes worse.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
If you say nothing, it makes me worse and makes
us worse as as a unit because we're a D
line unit, you know, And so it's sort of easy.
It's now it's different when now you know you got
just young guys in general, linebackers wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Whatever. It's like, all right, well what do you do?
All right, well let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And it's it's sort of like I said, but it's
an easy it's an easy progression because it became a
natural progression.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You were forced into it, forced into snicker swim.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hey what, I didn't choose this life. This life chose me,
you know, I said, Okay, let's respond.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Thrown right in the fire. My my, My next question
for you is, with all your success and where you've
been and how you've transformed your your your game, who
would you on your mount rushmore of just sataness.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
NFL period, but period period period life.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay, it could be, it could be live, it could
be for football. Yeah, I mean, I mean, make it
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean, there's probably gonna be Steve Jordan right there, right,
because like if without him, there's no me. Yeah, and
even even like even if without saying that, like that
was always my like north Star, right, that was like
my like chasing the dream was Steve Jordan. And then
right beside him, I probably put in Russell Peace, rest
(24:28):
in peace. Chris Dolman.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, grew up born born in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Grew up watching this defensive monster of a front Chris Dolman,
John Randall, Keith Millard.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
At one season between this D line they had like
fifty five to sixty sacks between just the D lineman.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It was and it was like it was like Keith
Millard had nineteen, John Randall had like thirteen fourteen. It
was Chris Chris Dolman with another twelve. The other the
other defensive end had like another eight to nine. Rotators
had another like five or six. And you're just sitting there,
You're like, as a kid, you look back at it,
You're like, this was bananas. But as I grew up
in you know, high school, whatever, it was those reconnections
(25:10):
with Chris Doman, those those chats, those textas as texts
as I got older, even into the league. My guy,
So rest in peace, Chris Doman up there. Then you
you know, you you probably you probably say you know
my wife is up there, right, Nicki, Jordan is up
on Mount Rushmore because she has to deal with my
(25:30):
like the same competitive person you see practice I bring
home and she matches intensity you've seen, NICKI, Yeah, my
wife is the most competitive person I know, which I
only assume is going to make all four of my
kids monsters, and it's not gonna be me. It's gonna
be her propelling them. Like she's she's uh McDonald's all
American out of a school out here in La Marble, Marlboro,
(25:54):
all women's basketball, Yeah, basketball, all American playing basketball, goes
to rough, ends up whatever that that career was, but
she ends up playing ball out in Finland, m Javascola, Finland,
like just the need to continue competing, Like why you
out here?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I went to go visit her. It was Neglave thirty.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I said, I can't stay long actually actually actually goodbye.
But then so she's up there and my son is
like he tells me, like like it's his day job
to tell me.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He be like, well, Poppy played football, Daddy played football.
I'm gona play football.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And I'm like, actually, it's okay to be a lawyer, bro,
Like it's okay to be a doctor. Probably we're gunning
for this basketball money. Like but anyways, so that's my
three and then my fourth. I'm probably gonna just insert
myself then, like I feel like I have to be
up there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
If it's a if rushmore, I have to be up there.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That is a first. That is I was like, as
he said it speaking, I'm like, I don't think I've
ever seen or heard someone put themselves up there on
the Mount rushmore so, I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Now you look in the mirror. I like what I say.
We're doing all right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I love that nobody's done that, and I love that.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yes, Cam, you always continue to surprise me. I always
continue to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We're gonna we're gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
We're gonna leave it at that. Thank y'all for listening.
Give us a like, share, follow, subscribe, give us a
five star rating. Follow us on Apple podcast. iHeartRadio app.
I'm Peanut, That's Rome, that's Cam. He puts himself on
his own Mount Rush, and you also now understand why
he started out on second Back. Thank y'all for tuning
(27:36):
in to The NFL Player's Second Acts podcast. Yeah
In the next five to eight years, there'll be ten,
possibly seven to ten Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Can you give me a couple of names?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Going to say myself, but hello, Hi. I think Cam
Hayward's on the cusp.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
You know there's hello can we did he just gloss
over that. I'm not going to introduce myself. Hello Hill,
What was a good one? Thank you for tuning in.
I'm Peanut to himing and this is the NFL Player
(00:34):
Second Acts podcast. My guy Roman Harper with me. What's up?
Why are you laughing right now? Why you got that
pretty small on your face?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, because our guests just gave you the craziest look.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He wasn't ready.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
He was not ready, not ready? Why was he not ready?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Because he knows you and that was a lot of
energy and that was really good by you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So you know, I've just talked about a little coffee shot.
Let me bring the juice.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, it was like bo bo man, it all just
happened really fast.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Anyways, I want to give a shout out to all
of our listeners out there and viewers wherever you take
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
Give us a rating of review, give it, leave a comment.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Please please continue to hit that follow button, share five
star ratings, all the works. Peanut, who is our guest today.
He's a great friend of mine. I've seen him since
he was a young pup. Go ahead, well, this young
pub has aple beard. Okay, this young bub has a
full beard. Apro Bowls, three time All Pro. He says
(01:32):
the twenty eleven draft class is somehow the best draft class,
draft class we'll see. He has his own podcast, Off
the Edge with Cam Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, Cam Jordan,
appreciate what's going on. Welcome to the Welcome to the pot.
Why now, why do you think the two thousand eleven
draft classes?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, there's there's there's great draft class. So yeah,
I'm sure you guys can mention all thes we're part of.
That doesn't really hold a candle bars, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Is it just because you're saying, did you have like
something to say that first round was stronger? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I mean some would say in the next five this
eight years, there'll be ten, possibly seven to ten Hall
of famers out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Can you give me a couple of names? I don't
know this draft class. You would say von Miller, von Miller, Okay,
lock A.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
De Green may get there. I'm not going to say
lock may get there. We're going to say Peterson, Julio
might get in there.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Julio, Pat p Julio, you know, JJ Watt.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know, I'm not going to say myself, but Hello, Hi,
I think Cam Hayward's on the cusp. You know, there's
if you look, if you look at our draft class,
it's just was hard to miss, you know, it was
just unless you said the quarterbacks, because after Cam, then.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, it got real slippery.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hello, can we did he just gloss over that? I'm
not going to introduce myself. Hello, Hi, Well I was
a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
First of all.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I like that. I love that because I think Cam
has had it outstanding career up to this point. It's
been a real blessing for me to actually saw and
sit here and watch his whole maturity and his growth
and all those other things. What I really have a
question about, because I do think you will be in
the Hall of Fame. You've got the numbers, yes, and
your numbers one hundred and seventeen and a half sacks
(03:17):
that's outstanding. I didn't I didn't realize until after you
hit one hundred how happy I was for you.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But anyways, what was your first like welcome to the
NFL moment?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh man, Because that's weird because your dad played in
the league. Yeah, I know you've been around in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
There were so many of them.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But I think now with you just sitting here, I
know for sure it was probably like it took sixteen
weeks for me to get.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
A sack, no doubt. You know. I saw this guy
push Cam. He pushed Cam Newton like he was like Cam,
I'm just going to push.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I didn't push Cam Newton. I smacked Cam Newton like
he was.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Going to fall.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He didn't wrap up. He just hit him and like
but not hit him. That was three hundred pound Camp.
That is fifteen pounds heavier than a what I normally
play at. Now, this is like a grown man, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I and I sat Cam hit him dead in
the chest and this man like Cam ate it like
lifted a couple of feet, landed, turned, ran, completed the
pass like it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Was I said, oh telling you, I don't realize we
all looked at.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It like Cam that was it. That was it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He just my bad guys.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
That was my rookie was a very was It was
a series of could have probably ended with like five
or six and ended with one.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Was that your first season ever only having one sack?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I have no idea. I just had this last season
being destroyed as I was on the leg. I ended
up with two. So like, okay, it was better. There's humbling,
there's humbling moments, and rookie year was one and this
last year was the other.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, okay, So do you remember your first and only touchdown?
Do you know that?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
That?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, Detroit, matt Matt Stafford.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Matthew Stafford, this is the twelve bat and ball by
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
What and ever by Cam Jordan's was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Able to see all off? You got the unsports for
like Conda after the touchdown?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That makes sense, That makes sense. I was originally I
was literally just so hyped.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I was about to I was about to like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like elevate and like hold it up like it was
a trophy and do a little dance. And then the
teammates grabbed me and I was like, next had a
dunk and I was so I went to I went
for a dunk, had to clear it and then nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
What was it to say?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was going crazy that game.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It was like two or three sacks, It was like
four or five TFLs. It was four or five pass deflections.
It was one of those games where you were just
like there's nothing that I can't do, you know, like
when you enter that element, that zone and you're just.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Like you had to glow last, the last drag, had
to glow. You had to clean when you go into
the sideline, You're like, fade me. Coaches like you're down
this series. You're down this series.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, there's way too much choice.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So how did you? How did you?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, because you talked about getting to that zone
all right early on in your career.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Was not that, but you worked at it, Like the
one thing was it?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Not that? It just wasn't that for sacks?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right, I know?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, I was killing the run.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I've never seen anybody as
greatest shape that you've been in as a defensive lineman. Like,
I know you take a lot of pride in your
your ability to run and play every snap the way
that you do. How what do you think that comes from?
And like, how have you just continued to grow?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It came from you Rome, It came from you and
Malcolm Jenkins and John Vilma.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
It came from all you old that way I asked
that question, but that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Being said no, no, no no, because rookies would not yet,
rookies would not make it. And the way that I
came into the league, like they like when I entered
the draft, right before before all this draft stuff happened,
I thought I was gonna be a top fifteen pick.
I went and visited the Saints and Bill Johnson was
the d line coach at the time, sat me down,
was like, hey, baby, love your game.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I don't really don't know why you're here. You won't
be here.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Twenty four and I said yeah. He's like yeah, so
we're just gonna catch them Bevine's and like literally had
a great time. Sounds like ji and sent me on
my way. I get drafted twenty fourth overall. Bill Johnson,
you know whatever it is. We're sitting there talking, I'm like, man,
He's like, man, I didn't think you come now now
look at you. And all that day I was like, damn.
The Saints really loved me. Like they said it was
gonna come get me. They started, They stopped me from falling.
(07:17):
I entered the building, you know whatever that is after
you signed the contract during camp because there was a
lockout year, so I really didn't see anybody till whatever
that was.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Getting to the building, I'm like, yeah, I was like,
Bill loves me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was like, you know, they want me to start,
He's already given me a plan like all this other stuff.
I walk in and I'm like, okay, I know some
of the guys, coach Joe Vitt at the time. You
never met this man a day of my life. Hey, hey,
hey bro, I'm like, you know, and I'm just like
I'm happy, go lucky. I'm I'm drafted, I just signed.
I'm about to get a check, you know, bank bank,
gonna be nice. And then so I walk in, I'm like,
(07:51):
my good morning, like just on some typical like just
happy to be here, smiling, ear to ear a little
heavy because all I've been doing is eating the whole time.
And then you know Joe Vihit, Hey, hey, Roamy, jav
who's this guy over here? Who is this guy who's
those third base talking to me like this? And I'm
just like, bro, all I said, it was good morning.
You know, we had who's our decordinated at the time,
(08:12):
Greg Williams, Greg Greg Williams.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Was there, No, No, that might have been Yeah it
was Greg Greg Williams.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So Greg Willams there and he hit He just resounds
the message. Yeah, these rookies they've come in entitled for
the rest of that year. Would be like, you know
this this third base j j V John Filmo, third
base isn't even right for this guy, this guy born
with the with the diamond spoon in his mouth.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
For those that don't understand, all right, he's correct, he's correct.
He's very correct. So in our locker room at the time,
none of us had had parents or anybody that had
actually been in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So Cam was the only one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
No, he wasn't Mark was.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was me, But he was on.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Offense and we didn't we didn't get down with it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He had a royal time that he had a great
tip over there with the offense, they probably loved him
all the time, not on defense. So Cam comes in
and we made Cam like earn it like it was
like the first But he's a first round pick that
was supposed to be starting. We let him start, but
we didn't like really talk to him, and we said
that he started on second or third base because his
dad played in the league Silver Spoon blah blah blah.
(09:12):
But I think it made him a lot more mentally tough.
And then when now I see him react with like
young people now and he's like, dude, there's no way
these people could have made it. When I came in,
like Jesse couldn't have did it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Man, I'm just the guys come in and like they
want to talk to you on the side, like hey, bro,
like you don't have to go that hard, Like first
of all, you're being yeah, you know. Yeah, it was like,
so I need you to pull your britches up and
be a big boy. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
You've been coddled your whole life, you know, Like now
now like younger guys like you have to you have
to worry about the mentals. I love it, you know,
(09:43):
I love how the game has changed. Yeah, I hate
it at the same time, like, you know, I love
how you know, we focused on prehab, right, you know.
I love how the evolution of the training facilities has changed.
Coaches are tuning into hey, make sure you're getting your
massages and your treatments and all that. When I first
get twenty eleven, that wasn't happening.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Sean Payton kept our training rehab facility at like fifty
five degrees. It was every freezing cold, no TVs. He
didn't want you to enjoy rehab. And he was like, hey,
the longer year out here, the more chance of guys
coming to take your job. And he made it clear,
and you were like, but I'm a first rounder, like
not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Clearly, I got at least three years.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So if the twenty eleven draft was done over again,
where do you think you would go?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Hopefully still New Orleans now that being said.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
He went last to twenty four though, yeah, yah, I
mean hopefully to get up. Would you be a top ten?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think that, I mean the top fifteen already. And
when I saw you know, you know, guys like Alden
Smith go to San Francisco, I really wanted to go
to Frisco at the time. I mean I was at
Berkeley all then.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Kind of ball too early he would fastest to forty
five sacks.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Ball they really missed at our class, you know, like
I remember, Yeah, it'd probably been somewhere in there. I
thought I was. I was like praying to God the
Vikings didn't draft me because its noos.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know how I feel about the cold.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, right, So I want no smoke with anybody that
has a day to day under seventy degrees. If you
if your winter is under fifty, I have problems with you.
I'm a very sweater and shorts and flip flops guy.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Come to New Orleans has totally just messed you up
like that from Arizona. Yeah, my life, California, Chicago, New Orleans.
Guess what I've never.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Had to do? Die on the inside.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Guess what you do with Chicago, Cleveland, the Ohio, the
New York.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm sure you die on the inside every day. You're like, oh,
it's so lovely out here.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's a Chris thirty three terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's my oh you.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'd be calling him when I'm shoveling to drive and
I'm like, yo, man, this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's where you get to work out. It you don't
have to work out because you're shoveling the driveway.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, ain't none wrong with it is terrible. Ain't none
wrong with it? So what's been the key to your success? Though?
Playing at a high level for so long? Since twenty eleven,
in that draft class, you played two hundred and nine
games and counting, you still.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Got out of possible What though to eleven, I feel
like I've missed.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's the most of anybody. That's the most oft anybody
in that draft class. You you have it out of
that whole twenty eleven draft class. Draft class, you got
two hundred and nine games and you're still going, I
believe with one hundred and seventeen and a half. So
I don't really understand how half sacks work.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
But you share them somehow, like this is a huge
thing with him and Junior Gallett with oh my gosh,
this is a people were trying to dive on quarterbacks
and get up fast first today.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Hey whoever could get up first to the Like it
was all so me and you touched room at the
same time, Like how does how does the sack work?
But who touched them?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
For who?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's how you split it if you if you and.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Me, I'm going I got the tack time, I'm going down,
but they come over and try and just hop it,
just hop on, just just got to get in there.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Half it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We really was in there, like we both did all
the work. So like, you know, it's really ours. It's
a group truck project. Come on, everybody. Everybody deserves a
little little yeah, a little something. But what's been your
secret though?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
For just playing out a high level for so long?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Man blessed, highly favored.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, I feel like I feel like my God
would work some mysterious ways. I told all my old heads.
I was like, look, man, I was like, like, poss
play in the league thirteen years, he's six Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Got to get at least.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
One, Yeah, you know, and I came in.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I feel like I came into the right group.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Like I said, all the coaches sort of hard on
me that first year where they told me, like, you know,
they told me young guys had to earn third down,
nothing would be given. And it was like, oh, we
don't let rookies play third down. And then after that
I saw nothing but rookies on third down. It was, yeah,
it's a chip that I'm gonna carry for the rest
of my life. Should but just the idea where I
(13:54):
had to earn that third down, like I was given
a chance to start first and second down.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They wanted me to be a four.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Eye, which is more like a D tackle hybrid, and
I want to be a defensive end and prove my
point that I was like, yo, me on the edge.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Is a problem.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
The thing that I appreciate about Cam and the young
group with Lightning d linemen that we had in New
Orleans was that every single one of them had like
their own very unique celebration. And so I remember, like
it was yesterday, I told Cam and like, Cam, like,
you're starting to get sacks. Now, you got to do
something to kind of separate yourself, Like what's your celebration
(14:29):
going to be? I don't think he had actually thought
about it. White Lightning had where he would like unscrew
a lightning bulb.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I had never understood what that was.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was like, well, he's hite lightning, So maybe is
that is that him he's doing?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
He's doing work, Lightning.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He said, he's doing work. He's just working.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I thought he was, so he was unscrewed down.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, Junior Gled had something, Will Smith had something like everybody.
Cedric Ellis had something like everybody had something, and so
this was like big because now I see Cam do
the same celebration consistently. Now he's on Madden, you know,
leveling up, and so this is like I love it
because like I've seen this man and you talked about
(15:07):
all the things that is going into and how the
hard work and so it's just been really cool to
see Cam continue to grow and now be not only
like a face in New Orleans, but like a face
in the NFL, which is crazy crazy. I like it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I mean it's just crazy to think about, you know,
like especially as a defensive end, especially as coming out
of New Orleans where.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
We're one of the smaller markets.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes, it is for sure, you know, and I think
a lot of things just sort of story hit our
hit our favor. Yeah, you know, we hit a strong
playoff stretch where I felt like we were clearly going
to win one for like three years straight, and even
though we didn't, you know, you got to take advantage
of those opportunities. Things had to stop us, like a
Minnesota miracle, you know, a referee going blind. Maybe he
(15:50):
was looking at the solar eclipse the other day, you know,
he was like there was there was there was clear cut,
you know, reasons why we didn't go and just you know,
but because of that, we also hit a hot stride.
And when you hit a hot streak, you got to
you gotta enjoy the ride.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Okay, do you have a number in mind as far
as like sacks are concerned, where you'll be like, all right,
this is the number.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, seventeen and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So you wanted to get a hunt.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
This is land yep, Like in my life, this is
all land yup in my mind. When I first got
to the league, I wanted I was like, yo, if
I can get fifty sacks, I was like, fifty sacks,
that's a hell of a career. I was like, you know,
there's guys in this league that never get more than ten.
I was like, I gotta get more than ten, all right, because.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Then you're like as the first round, you're you're a
bus You're.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta hit twenty. Yeah, like you
there's like there's somewhere in to stay off that list. Yeah,
of like top ten bus.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, No.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I like thirty five to fifty was my range of
Like I was like, hey, like solid career.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was like, I gotta I was like, I gotta
get a Pro Bowl, like I.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Can't be a failure kid, like you know, in my mind,
it was like, you know, in my mind, it was
a failure not to hit a Pro Bowl. Not like
didn't look at any other metrics of like, oh you
could have a seven, eight to ten whatever, five year career,
A year in the league is still successful, you know,
like you start in the NFL. Absolutely, But in my mind,
I'm like, I'm so, I was so jaded. I was like,
gotta get a Pro Bowl, possi plate for thirteen, Gotta
(17:08):
make ten years, gotta gotta lead, like you know, my
I wasn't looking on the outside of like racing against
anybody except the Jordan last name right, I'm like, like,
what I don't want to be is you know just that? No,
that's the That's Steve's kid. I said, I want to
grow out of that. That whatever Steve's kid is, Like,
I don't want to be that. And that was my metrics.
I was like fifty sacks. So once I hit fifty sacks,
(17:30):
I was like, all right, I gotta I gotta change
my dream up. It's about me now. I was like, okay,
I hit one hundred sacks. You can't tell me I'm
not top thirty defensive end. Ever, there's thirty two team
in the league. If you pick a franchise, I'm still
up there.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So I was like, one hundred sacks, that's the new goal,
and I worked my ass off to get it. Now,
one hundred sacks, I said, okay, I got to reshape
the dream.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So where are you at now?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I didn't. I didn't shoot high enough.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I was like, like, where are you at now?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was like, I was like one fifteen. I was like,
I was like, all right, one fifteen and a half
is the Saints record. I gotta go win sixteen. So
here I'm at one seventeen and a half. I'm like, okay,
what's the next what's the next number? What's the level up?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Are we ready to announce it right now? You said
that I want to go two more years.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm gunning for one thirty this year?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Okay, yeah I like that.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now now I'm just on a year by year. So
now I'm gunning for one thirty. I don't hit one thirty.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Literally, I'm going to watch every Saints game just because
of you. Now, I appreciate that just because of you.
Because I'm gonna be at the crib and I'm gonna
be calling Rome on face up, like yo, he got
another one. He got another one, and I'm gonna send
it to you every game this year because of you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's gonna be me called Grandison, Chase Young, Brian Berzi.
I love I love the odds.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I like it though, man, I like the challenge. That's
that's what's up. I want to see these The kid's
gonna be a good player.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
What my guy, My guy, Brian Ziz is nice.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
He's a good player. Yeah, I agree Grandison as well.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
in a minute. So we started our podcast. Well yeah,
we started this podcast as I brought Rome over because
I sucked doing it by myself and I felt like
I needed the Batman Robin Combos so we could do
this thing together. We could tag team. Our message really
is about players in their second acts. Clearly you are
far from that because you're still playing and you have
(19:14):
your own podcast. Now, what made you want to start
that podcast while you were still playing?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh man, me and uh Me and my guy mark.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Ingram had a same best friend.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, that's my dog. Just you know, just was in
Liberia with him. That's that's my that's my dog. Kids
about the same age, you know. I think he got
married relatively around the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like, life is just great.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Off Off the Edge with Cam Jordan and what you
just said. It's different doing it alone, Like it's it's
so much easier with the friend.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, you got you The vibes are always top
tier when you're doing it with yourself. Just lost.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, but okay, okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What this is what I signed up for.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Bring the juice.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He's like, Hey, we're gonna talk about how he just
blew this bag against Spring Bay somehow, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Bring the Jews today.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know how he lost to this team because
they were abysmal and we were the reason that we
the gain confidence and all of a sudden became a
playoff contender.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I assume it was our game. When you blew, you know,
you blow a seventeen lead.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, I saw you talk to Jordan Love about that, man.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, that'll grind my gears for the rest of my life,
you know, hopefully not hopefully we win one this year
and all I talk about is Lo.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, I remember that you have the Saints want the
Super Bowl twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, I'm not even going to hate,
but I kind of want to hate because the longest
New Orleans goes without winning another championship, they just make
my year that much better. So, not trying to be
a hater, but it's kind of the thought process of
a Highlander, you know, where they can only only be one,
only only one. It's kind of cool. So but not
(20:55):
hating on you, Camp, I mean I would just this situation. Yeah,
he hated. Dude, young players ever come to you now
and try and pick your brain about how you got
to where you at some of your technique, things like
how do you take that now? Because you truly are,
you're the captain, You got all the years on it
that you can have filled up.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, he's that guy. Now you a jet at man.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So but I've seen this whole transition and now you're
coming full circle. So how do you treat that and
how does that go about? And how often does it happen?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Probably since what year two and fourteen when you guys
left when'd you leave two thousand from the Saints twenty What.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
When I left?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah, twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen, yes, so thirteen is my
last time.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That was That was the huge culture shift, right, twenty thirteen?
Roman Harper leaves, So that was fourteen. Yes, So after
thirteen fourteen, Malcolm Jenkins leaves, Roman Harper leaves, Jonathan Vilma leaves,
Will Smith leaves. I look around and I go from
year three four from being just like all right, I'm
figuring my shit out to everybody looking at me like
(22:00):
all right, how do we figure our shit out?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah? I'm like so that was a huge culture shift.
But since then, so since year four ish.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Guys been come my way, hey man, like, how do
you how do you take care of your body?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like, I don't take care of my body just yet? Bro,
Like this actually worn's perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
How much do cold tub? I don't cold tub?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Is that weird for you though? For God to ask that?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean, yeah, because you're twenty five and you know
everybody looking at you like, all right, well how do
we do this?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You got a massage?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't really I don't need all that yet, you know,
like and you're you're sitting there, got to figure my
stuff out, but it made you rapidly figure shit out
right to where you're like, all right, well this is
what this is my plan and this is what's worked
for me, and this is how I can help you.
And you know, you had young guys at the time
like John Jenkins and a Keen Hicks you're behind me,
which was great and coral and everything, and you know,
(22:48):
just that sort of culture shift. So I've been leading these,
you know, my D line for ten years now. So
at this point it's routine. Guys come in and I
want to push them to their highest levels. Yeah, I'm like,
you know, I'm on them, like you know, like I'm
gonna coach myself. I'm like, you know, I don't like
your hand placement, and I tell them though, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
If you don't like my hand placement, tell me. At
worst comes worse.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
If you say nothing, it makes me worse and makes
us worse as as a unit because we're a D
line unit, you know, And so it's sort of easy.
It's now it's different when now you know you got
just young guys in general, linebackers wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Whatever. It's like, all right, well what do you do?
All right, well let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And it's it's sort of like I said, but it's
an easy it's an easy progression because it became a
natural progression.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You were forced into it, forced into snicker swim.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hey what, I didn't choose this life. This life chose me,
you know, I said, Okay, let's respond.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Thrown right in the fire. My my, My next question
for you is, with all your success and where you've
been and how you've transformed your your your game, who
would you on your mount rushmore of just sataness.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
NFL period, but period period period life.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay, it could be, it could be live, it could
be for football. Yeah, I mean, I mean, make it
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean, there's probably gonna be Steve Jordan right there, right,
because like if without him, there's no me. Yeah, and
even even like even if without saying that, like that
was always my like north Star, right, that was like
my like chasing the dream was Steve Jordan. And then
right beside him, I probably put in Russell Peace, rest
(24:28):
in peace. Chris Dolman.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, grew up born born in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Grew up watching this defensive monster of a front Chris Dolman,
John Randall, Keith Millard.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
At one season between this D line they had like
fifty five to sixty sacks between just the D lineman.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It was and it was like it was like Keith
Millard had nineteen, John Randall had like thirteen fourteen. It
was Chris Chris Dolman with another twelve. The other the
other defensive end had like another eight to nine. Rotators
had another like five or six. And you're just sitting there,
You're like, as a kid, you look back at it,
You're like, this was bananas. But as I grew up
in you know, high school, whatever, it was those reconnections
(25:10):
with Chris Doman, those those chats, those textas as texts
as I got older, even into the league. My guy,
So rest in peace, Chris Doman up there. Then you
you know, you you probably you probably say you know
my wife is up there, right, Nicki, Jordan is up
on Mount Rushmore because she has to deal with my
(25:30):
like the same competitive person you see practice I bring
home and she matches intensity you've seen, NICKI, Yeah, my
wife is the most competitive person I know, which I
only assume is going to make all four of my
kids monsters, and it's not gonna be me. It's gonna
be her propelling them. Like she's she's uh McDonald's all
American out of a school out here in La Marble, Marlboro,
(25:54):
all women's basketball, Yeah, basketball, all American playing basketball, goes
to rough, ends up whatever that that career was, but
she ends up playing ball out in Finland, m Javascola, Finland,
like just the need to continue competing, Like why you
out here?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I went to go visit her. It was Neglave thirty.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I said, I can't stay long actually actually actually goodbye.
But then so she's up there and my son is
like he tells me, like like it's his day job
to tell me.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He be like, well, Poppy played football, Daddy played football.
I'm gona play football.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And I'm like, actually, it's okay to be a lawyer, bro,
Like it's okay to be a doctor. Probably we're gunning
for this basketball money. Like but anyways, so that's my
three and then my fourth. I'm probably gonna just insert
myself then, like I feel like I have to be
up there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
If it's a if rushmore, I have to be up there.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
That is a first. That is I was like, as
he said it speaking, I'm like, I don't think I've
ever seen or heard someone put themselves up there on
the Mount rushmore so, I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Now you look in the mirror. I like what I say.
We're doing all right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I love that nobody's done that, and I love that.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yes, Cam, you always continue to surprise me. I always
continue to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We're gonna we're gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
We're gonna leave it at that. Thank y'all for listening.
Give us a like, share, follow, subscribe, give us a
five star rating. Follow us on Apple podcast. iHeartRadio app.
I'm Peanut, That's Rome, that's Cam. He puts himself on
his own Mount Rush, and you also now understand why
he started out on second Back. Thank y'all for tuning
(27:36):
in to The NFL Player's Second Acts podcast. Yeah
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