May 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Peter unpacks the NFL's deal with Netflix for two Christmas Day games and offers some more insight on how and why the league has a new broadcast partner. Peter, then, welcomes in Chiefs 2-time Super Bowl champion safety Justin Reid to discuss his recent victory in the Chess.com Blitzchamps III competition. Reid beat out the likes of Larry Fitzgerald and Kyler Murray en route to winning the NFL's most coveted chess championship. Chess and football? Peter dives right in.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the
NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is
Peter Schreger Listening to the Season with Peter Schreger. We
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are through Memorial Day weekend and we are looking at
the abyss of NFL news. But I wanted to pop
on and have a podcast because I want to check
out to one last week, and Aaron wan Kaufman is
joining me. I feel like we need to unpack the
schedule stuff a little bit and kind of set the
stage for what's going to happen over the next few weeks,
but also hit on some other things both around the league,
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around New York City, and around the sports and pop
culture world. Aaron, I'll go back to our interview with
Mike North, which is our last podcast, and I didn't
realize his quote about the Jets owing US one and
us being the league what's gonna take off the way
it did? It was like national news, and I'm like,
did you say that on our podcasts? And then I
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go back and the clip was from our podcast. So
what Mike North, who we love, the schedule maker from
the NFL, said was that the reason the Jets have
the most primetime games is because they're a Marquee team
and a Marquee network, and the way things went down
last year, tongue in cheek, he said, they owe us one.
Sure enough, the Jets have me, you can't. They asked
Rogers about it, and Rogers like, yeah, like, I think
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we I think we did. Like Rogers was cool with it.
The Jets comment was big. The other thing that was
interesting was we were kind of on it before everyone else,
the Netflix deal and kind of unpacking that since so
I didn't realize how I'm not gonna say monumental it was,
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but I think it caught a lot of people by
surprise if they were able to put together that Netflix
package so soon, because in March they had the league
meetings and Netflix was not in many of the conversations
with the other league broadcast partners. So you have your CBS,
you have your EVS, ESPN, you got Fox, you got NBC,
and how you got Amazon? Now, if you're Amazon, you're like,
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all right, we just shelled out all this money for
the Black Friday ownership, which is kind of like that
holiday feel, and we're also gonna be getting a playoff game,
and we've now got a couple of years under our
belt with Thursday Night Football. If we're the official streaming
partner and we're paying all this money for Black Friday,
Christmas Day, seems like a natural link. Well, Netflix comes in.
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They do the deal with Netflix, which interesting is it's
just for two games, and Netflix has given no indication
that they're looking to like buy a bigger package. From
all the reading and all the conversations I've done, Netflix
brings something that the other networks apparently do not, and
that is this global audience all under one tenth. So
what does that mean? Yeah, the Fox games are broadcasted overseas,
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and yes the CBS games are broadcasted, but those might
be on partner networks like Sky or be in Sport
or wherever those those other networks are overseas. With Netflix
on this Christmas Day game, everyone's gonna watch it on
the same network, on the same broadcast, with the same voice,
the same production, all at once. Is there a value
to that? I guess. Netflix apparently reaches way more in
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their global audience, and that was the NFL's push on it.
Netflix all also was willing to pay a certain dollar,
which I'm sure is very appealing in a lot of ways,
and it also brings another partner into the NFL, which
leads to, you know, negotiations with the league when it
comes to future games. Well, there's another person at the table.
I will say this. What's interesting is that, like in
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this dynamic, does the NFL need Netflix? I'd say it's
nice to have to get that Netflix audience. We saw
that the Quarterback series with the number one rated series
last summer, and that was a cool partnership. And the
Brady Roast obviously has football, you know, tentacles. Does Netflix
need the NFL, I don't know. Like to me, everything
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I've read, it's like they view this as an event,
and it's more like they're to the event of having
Christmas Day NFL and then they use that to maybe
promote the wrestling package they just paid five hundred million
dollars for throughout the Christmas Day event. They use that
to try out their new ad tier, which they're kind
of soft launching and using in a different way. You're
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going to can't avoid the ads. If they're going to
do an NFL game, they'll put them on and they'll
be able to use that ad tier for the first time.
A lot of conversation to the Netflix thing. It wasn't
as necessarily clean and easy as like, all right, here
we go Netflix. It seems like some folks were caught
off guard a little bit. I don't think there's any
sour feelings. I don't think anyone's upset, But now you
have this Netflix deal. And the one thing that I
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asked Mike North, which is interesting, is like, who's going
to broadcast these games? And when they says that, it's like,
who's going to produce the games? So when Amazon came
in for Thursday night football, NBC was very much in
line with Amazon and helped guide them through it. When
the NFL network broadcasted all those games on Thursday nights
for many years, it was the Fox broadcast crew would
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help put it on. Then it was CBS would help
put those on. We still don't know, so I assume
this is how this will play out. Netflix will pay
either Fox, CBS or ESPN, Abc, NBC. I don't think
NBC because Amazon's with NBC, but one of those three
they'll pay them a fee and those guys will use
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their producers, their trucks, their directors, their ads, their camera folks,
they'll come in with that and then on air. There
hasn't been really much discussion publicly, and I've tried to
work back channels, like what's the plan on air for
this Netflix presentation of these two great Christmas Day games?
I mean we're talking great games. You're talking Steelers Chiefs.
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Those are two teams that are gonna be in the
playoff on they're talking Texans Ravens another two great teams.
Who's gonna be the broadcaster? So it's just gonna be like,
all right, well, CBS is broadcasting it, and the CBS
third crew is Andrew Catalan and Tiki Barber, So that's
who's doing the game. Or does Netflix truly say like no,
we want to have you know, I said Bert Kreischer
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on the podcast with North, But it's like we have
a relationship with Kevin Hart, we have a relationship with
Nate BERGATZI, we have a relationship with Andre Agassy from
the tennis event, Like we want to mix this up
and maybe do a different approach at this. I know
there's a Netflix movie coming out now with Nicole Kidman
and Zach Efron, Like whatever the movie is that Christmas
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do they want to incorporate those people into their broadcast.
They can. I would imagine the NFL has a has
a voice. But like I said, Netflix, they're looking at
this in an event. I don't think it's just gonna
be all right here it is, roll it out and
there's Rich Eisen, there's Kurt Warner, there's you know whoever
else or the CBS there's Nate Burlison, and there's you know,
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Matt Ryan. I have to think they're gonna have their
own studio folks, and they were gonna have some sort
of different presentation which fascinated by. But uh, that's rapidly approaching,
Like this is already.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
In bed with Omaha from quarterback. So I wonder if they're,
like you're saying, they're taking influence from the Manning cast.
So it would be so easy for them to have
Nicole Kidman, Zach Efron, whoever like jump.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Out and does the audience Does the NFL audience want that?
Like if I'm if I'm as if I'm a Steelers
fan and my team is seven and nine going in
or seven and seven going into the game, do I
want and I have one who presented it? Do I
want you know Nate Bergatzi Andrew Schultz, BT, you know,
cracking jokes about Russell Wilson the Rugs or do I
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just want hey, I'm good, yeah, put on you know,
give me two random announcers from Fox. I'm like the four,
give me, give me Adam and Mark shal Earth and
I'm good. Let's just have the game on Netflix. Like so,
I think those are really in the weeds conversations. But
that's been sort of a buzz in the fallout after
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the Netflix decision. I think it's cool. I think bring
in more partners, let's see different creative ways and more
people broadcasting football is better. The other thing that I
wanted to mention up top was the passing of Bill Walton. Aaron,
do you have any history of being a Walton fan
or a knowledge of Walton? I know you're of a
different generation. You're in your twenties. I'm in my forties.
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Where do you stand on Walton?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, I'm a huge basketball fan. I don't have
myself any memories of watching I'm also honored that you
think I'm in my twenties.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Because early thirties.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But I love this past week seeing so many other
basketball voices, voicing what Bill Walton meant not only to
the league as a player but afterwards as an ambassador
for the league and sort of like being there to
usher in this like kind a more connected period between
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the NBA and the media, which I think he had
a pard in, especially early on. But I don't have like, oh,
I've got this his like sitting there watching Walton games
or anything.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So no, but I'll tell you growing up a huge
football fan, I obviously I always say this sounds a
huge hoopshead too, so like I have the you know,
knowledge of Walton's game, but I was thinking more of
just like as a broadcaster and as a personality. Obviously,
if you've written, if you've followed Walton, or you knew
the eulogy or the stuff that's been written in the
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obituary is like he was like a terrible stat stuttering.
He overcame that and it's became one of the best broadcasters.
But like everyone has this nostalgia for NBA on NBC,
and it's Marv Albert and it's Fortello and it's Round
Ball Rock and it's Peter Vessi and it's a morber Shott.
But like those West Coast games were very often a
trio of Tom Hammond, who was kind of your like
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you know, ham and Egg right down the middle. He
does the horse racing and he would do these West
Coast games. And then it was a duo of Bill
Walton and Steve Snapper Jones, and I think those guys
defined a generation of like West Coast basketball, because everyone
thinks of Marv Albert on the call for like Michael
Jordan versus Reggie Miller, or Michael Jordan versus Patrick Ewing,
or you named the East Coast Battle of the Nixon Pacers,
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and that's true. On the West Coast, you would have
these games between like the Suns, you know, the Phoenix
Suns taking on the La Lakers in a first round
series that I remember was amazing. Those guys were on
the call, or like Courtland got really good in the
late nineties and they had this like awesome team, or
the Sacramento Kings and the Lakers in the early two thousands,
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and it was always Bill Walton on those calls for
those West Coast playoff games, and he was truly like
out there, so out there, but you learned to embrace it.
And I just thought one of the interesting things is
like how he's been eulogized by everyone in sports. It's
not a out his accomplishments, not it's just like what
a good duty was, Like what a great dude, what
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a great spirit. And that includes the Grateful Dead, you know,
you know, a whole world. Obviously, Jack coming out Reggie
Miller last night during during the game said like, you know,
when he walked onto the court at UCLA thirty one
years ago, Bill Walton like reached out and was like,
here's how you're gonna be a UCLA brewing. But you know,
Walton was like at one with the earth. He was.
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He was a guy who would cycle sixty miles a day.
Super uh eccentric, but also super eclectic in his interests.
You know, the Grateful Dead stuff casts a shadow or
a or a haze over over a lot of this
stuff because you're like, wow, he is, he's really at
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one with the earth. But like, really cool dude. And
you know, in an era where it's so much content
and there's an era where it's like, all right, I'm
gonna break down the exos and nose and tell you
what you're you know, there's a place for just a
good dude who was like a nice guy that everyone
liked talking to, who said crazy shit, and also was
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really respected and beloved by those he worked with. Our
guest today on the podcast is going to be a
little outside the box. I usually resist from doing too
many players, and the reason why is because I think
the players are usually pretty tight lipped and don't have
much to say that it's compelling podcast content until they retire,
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and then they start opening up and tell great stories,
either they go into media or they have these amazing
second lives, or if they don't, it's they have a
connection to the game. But as a current player, you're
usually pretty much p's and q's.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
There are exceptions. The Kelsey Brothers do their podcast, Michael
Parsons Talks, Jamar Chase Talks. We've had a lot of
these guys in the media world. But if I'm being honest,
unless you're one of the top quarterbacks, or you're a
really interesting guy or a team leader who's been in
the league for many years, probably don't need to have
you on the season with Peter Sugar because we're trying
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to get inside the huddle a little bit and into
the weeds and if you're going to open up, it
might not be over with me over a phone call
or in zoom or It's kind of why I Super
Bowl shows Aaron, whether it be Good Morning Football or
if you like I don't. I don't have much for
the player interview on behalf of Old Spice. It doesn't
do much for me if if you're being honest content wise,
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but if you're telling me you can get a coach
or a GM where you can get an ex player
who used to play for the team that's in the
Super Bowl and knows Eric b Enemy and knows Andy Reid,
and sign me up. Say all that, because our guest
is coming on for an interesting reason. The guest is
Justin Reid, who is the starting safety and the Super
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Bowl champion Chiefs, And that in itself is cool and
we could do a whole conversation and maybe we will.
But the reason I'm having him on is because I
saw a little blurb, a little blurb I'm like Apple
News last week that Justin Reid won a tournament called
the Blitz, which was the NFL's in house chess tournament. Yes,
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the NFL's in house chess tournament where the NFL's best
chess players all competed. We're going to talk Chiefs and
we'll get there and he'll answer what he wants, But
I want to talk chess. Justin Reid's joining us right
for this. I'm so excited for our guests. He's a
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Super Bowl champion two times over. He is the man
in the defensive back field for one of the best
defenses in the league, and obviously one of the most
vocal guys on that unit and a true leader. And
I want to talk to him about some of the
stuff he did off the field last week. Justin Reid,
Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Hey, what's going on, Bro? Appreciate you bringing me on.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I love having on first off Super Bowl champion in February.
We're now at like mini camp in June. Is it
turned the page next year time? But with the ring
ceremonies still kind of hovering in the next couple of
weeks or can you still appreciate what we did last year?
Where are we as far as the mint ding?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, the last page of the book. We're doing on
the last page of the book, we're getting ready to
close it. We got the white House visit coming up
on Friday, and then we got the ring ceremony coming
up in about two weeks. So those are the last
two end notes or footnotes into this chapter. And then
we're going to close this book and open up a
new one and try and get our new players and
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our young guys here that haven't had the chance to
experience the championship.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We're going to try and get the marine.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What's Coach Reed say about the White House visit that's
going to be in a couple of days. We're recording
this on Wednesday. Does he give like primers to the
young guys, like, okay, here's what the dresses I here?
Because I remember a couple of years ago, Kelsey took
the mic and it was like, all right, all bets
are off.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
We'll see how good we are keeping them from it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You know, Kelsey has a lot to say all the time,
and that guy's just so so funny. He's always a character.
So we'll see what he has of his sleep. But
you know, formal retire we want to be classy, want
to do everything first class, So student ties for everybody,
and we're just gonna dress clean and enjoy the visit.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Have they given you any prep on what's in store
for the ring ceremony. These Kansas City players and teams
and coaches like you guys are so spoiled that it's like, well,
what's going to be different from the other years?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Just like what is It's been a little bit more
close to the chest this year than last year. Like
last year, we had a committee to talk about things
that we wanted on the ring, and you know, most
of the guys just wanted it to be as big
as possible, as many times as possible. So I think
that you know, they probably just remembered that from last year,
and you know it's going to be cool. We'll see
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what they come up with.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know. One of the reasons I went out of
my way to like specifically ask for you as a
guest is because last Wednesday was May twenty second, and
I'm just fiddling around on my phone, check in Twitter, whatever,
and I see this alert on Apple News. Yes, sir,
Justin Reid is crowned the winner of Blitz Champs three.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Championship season Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Between NFL Stars.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So, I don't think anyone at home listening to this
is necessarily aware of what Blitz Champs three is, But
can you take us through what that is and what
sport you won in?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, so it's blitz.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Champs three is a is an event put on by
Chess dot Com and its speed chess, So it's time chess.
Each person has a has a timer that they have
to make their moves and we played five minute games
and three minute games and it was a It was
a person double elimination style tournament. We had guys like
Larry Fitzgerald, Kyler, Murray Quinn, Nelson, Drew Tranquil who actually
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won last year, Chadobe, oh Wuzier, myself, Michael Vick, just
some of the characters already and there playing and it
was double elimination and uh you know, oh MATC. Collins
was another guy, and it was just you know, some
speed chess competition, friendly competition, and it was all in
the name of charity. So we each represented our own
foundations or a foundation of our choice, and uh, you know,
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I was just fortunate enough to come out on top.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Who'd you get in the first round? Who was your
first round matchup?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So first round was tough.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I actually had my work cutout for me with ch Adobe, Wuzier,
I am because everything I do I want to do
at one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I want to win everything. So I actually hired a
grandmaster to coach me.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Some Russian comes walking in like who do we?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, like name is James Canty. I hired him like
six weeks before the competition. He actually taught me how
to scout. You can watch guys games if you know
they're using name. So I scouted Chadobe's games to learn
a little bit about how he played, and we had
a game plan going in.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
So with ch Adobe's like opening, he did the same
opening every single time. Is that how that works?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
You know, you see what opening the guys the strongest with,
and you try and if your opening isn't good against that,
you have a plan for it. But if yours works,
you just you stick to your guns and you roll
with it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right? So six weeks ago you hire this grand
this grandmaster, does he come to you or you guys
over zoom? What's the like virtue of that picture?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So we did a couple of times, like.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like when I was playing games and its only he
wasn't allowed to tell me what to do, but after
I made a move, he would tell me you could
have made if you did this movie, it would have
been better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So just through that, and then he gave me some
videos to watch.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So, like, I like playing on the Sicilian tom and
all as black, that's just like different opening names. And
I like playing the Scotch Game as white. So he
sent me some videos on watching some some professional players
that play that way, so I can learn a little.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Bit from them.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, So I gotta go back even further. When did
you pick up chess? Was this like a COVID thing?
Or have you been playing your whole life?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
When when did chess?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Like?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Really, like a year or two before COVID, we had
we had a I had a teammate of mine, Philip Games,
that we used to call Grand Mass to Phiel because
he was always in his locker playing online chess. So
he was playing, and you know what I mean, I like,
I like to just interact with my teammates. You know,
whatever they're into, I'll just play along with it, just
because I want to connect to each and every one
of them, you know, built that that friendship in that brotherhood.
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So we started playing and he was whooping my tail. Yeah,
he was whooping me. So then me being competitive, I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna go study up and I'm
gonna go try and be competitive. I didn't beat him
for a year, yeah, like maybe two years, but then
just keep practicing and he's a little bit better at it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I'd never played golf my whole life, and everyone
would always play golf. And then when I turned forty,
I'm like, you know what, screw it, I want to
learn golf. It sounds kind of the same thing. You're like,
you know what, I'm just gonna be. I'm gonna I'm
gonna dive into chess and you're a competitor. Yeah, and
and you get through a doozy U Chadobi, and then
who's next.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah. So after Chadoby, it was mac Collins.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, not wearing any shoes, never wear shoes, he's always barefoot.
That's his.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Smart cat.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And he was real friendly too, like we alised so
many the same people, especially so NVS actually told him
that he was like, oh, you better watch out for
j Ree because they're both there in Buffalo right now.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Nymbees another buddy of mine.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And then after mccollins, it was Calamary and then I
beat Calamary the first time two games of one, and
then he had to go and play mccollins to get
back into the championship game.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he played and beat mccollins.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And in that game that he was playing mccollins, I
went back and scouted our game and.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yes, what moves. Yeah, I looked at what moves could
have been better?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And then like I played the same opening, he played
the same opening, and I was like, oh, okay, I got
I already know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Now it's already done. Like does does Spags or Dave Merritt, Like,
do they know like what that you're putting in this
time of scouting and preparation, Like, I'm so impressed by
your preparation and the mental gymnastics of this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Failure to preparers prepared in the field man, and you
know what I mean. So I take preparation very seriously.
That's where all my confidence comes from playing football, That's
where it comes from playing chess. But actually put it
up in the team meetings today that they I was like,
the blst chance thing. You know, we're back to back
here in the in the chiefs like.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, yeah, so don't I don't play chess. My kid
is in elementary school and he's playing it, and he
talks in a language. I don't know. How hard was
it to learn you said the Sicilian and this other
thing like the sketch. How hard was it to learn
these terms? And how long did it take for you
to feel pretty comfortable in those chess circles?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You know, it really just depends on how how much
time you put into it, you know what I mean,
Like if you if you put in five ten minutes
a day, you can really pick up on it pretty quickly.
I loved it so much. I was probably putting in
like one and a half to two hours a day.
Yes to doing puzzles, are playing games. And you know,
if you're putting in that much time, you can really
start picking it up after about you know, maybe a month.
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You really start picking it up in about two weeks,
but you right start getting good in about two months
three months, and then from there you just keep getting
better and refining. And you know, by the time you've
been playing for a year or two years, you can
get pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, like I during my son is picking it up,
I was like, all right, let's go on chess dot
com and like you could play like Gordon Hayward from
you know, like the NBA, he's he's a he's a
chess player. And I think Larry fitz was like.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
On its class computerized bots that they yeah, you can
play there.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Do you have you ever go on there and just
play against random strangers? Is like an anonymous person.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Oh yeah, all the time. That's that's mainly what I do.
So it's fun because whatever skill level you are, it'll
match someone to the same skill level as you, and
you know, as you get better, you'll play better competition,
so you know, it stays fun.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Do you have any idea like how cool this is?
I think, you know, for kids everywhere, they all want
to be NFL players, But like short of that, to
learn that there's a crew of you guys that on
your off time or choosing to play chess, I think
is so inspiring. I think it's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, you know, it's just it's just fun to be multifaceted.
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I love football, It's what I do. I come to
work with a smile on my face every day because
I have the great job in the world. But besides that,
it's okay to have more than one passion. You know,
you can play more than one sport. You're gonna have
more than one hobby. So it's just things that you
know you like to do, and you know it adds
some personality, some some uniqueness and some character. You know,
it's a it's a fun skill that you know you
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never know what it will bring up. And you know,
I was playing it for fun and I was able
to win a thirty thousand dollars check for my charity
because of it. So when you can combine two things,
something that you already love to do and make a
good cause out of it, I mean you just can't
beat that.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is there anyone on the team today at the meeting
or you know, you and Tranquil are talking about it,
Who's like, hey, guys, like I've never played, Like can
you help me? Can you get me started? Have you
inspired anyone to pick it up since joining the Chiefs?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, you know some of the young guys. Some of
the young guys play. Joe Joe, Joe Tuny, he plays
a lot too. He already knows how to play. Okay,
we played I bring a chessboard with the pieces on
the training camp every year.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Joseph like, Pa, break it out. I love it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, we get some rounds in the locker room in
our downtime. So yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What's your charity and where can people learn more about
it and maybe make a j.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Read Indeed, Jay Read Indeed. We focus on three pillars.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
The biggest pillar is the tech space and computer science
and try and make computer science cool. And we try
to meet kids where we're at. So, you know, kids
are into sports, learning the music. So we love to
take the concepts of sports and music and try and
you know, hey, this is your issues. This is how
we want every kid to be the superstar. We want
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every kid to be the star artist. But in case
that isn't in your cards, you can still follow your
passion and computer science can help you do that. We
try and introduce tools and techniques and skill sets that
will help them and help them find a career field
as they grow up and mature. We have Microsoft as
a partner, so we do a lot of Excel proficiency
and a lot of life skills, some financial literacy and
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some budgeting. And you know, you can find out more
information at my website. Jareadindeed dot com or any of
our social handles, you know, Twitter, Instagram at jay Reed Indeed.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So we're excited about that.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
We have two events coming up to a charity softball
game that's going to be offense versus defense, and trying
to recruit some help on the defensive side of the
ball because offense has some former baseball players, so they kind.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Of be up on us last year. I'm not gonna
let that happen again.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, No, when is that golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Coming up to?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
When's a softball game.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That is next Thursday, June sixth Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And is it mostly Chiefs players? Are all guys around
the league.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, so it's Chiefs players with a couple of celebrity
guests offense versus defense format, and we have some celebrity
guests that go to come in and play too.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All right, and do you like get your defensive back team?
I guess Trent McDuffie going to be playing third base. Like,
what do we have in store? Let me hear the
scouting report.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, we're all going to the batting CAGs. We gotta
get right. Yeah, we need a star clift. You know,
Nick Bolton has some baseball background. I'm gonna need to
Nick to be my star player, man.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I mean them at shortstop. Let's say, miss, let's go, hey.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You're you're you're going third, bro, We need we need
to just get on the pace you're betting third, go ahead,
get us three runs real quick.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I love this. And then the golf tournament is shortly thereafter.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, golf tournament is June seventeen, also here in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I love it. Man, that's great. Uh. I think it's
really cool you guys did this. I wish it was more,
you know, widely known or publicized, because I think it's
so cool to see that there's these NFL guys who
do things other than play football. But also so are
applying it to such an intellectual game. Have you like,
have you watched Searching for Bobby Fisher or did you
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see the Queen's Gambit? Like, are you into like chess
pop culture wise or no?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, you know the Queen's Gambit is actually what influenced
me to play the Sicilian. Hell yeah, So after watching that,
she played the Sicilian in one move and I was like, okay,
that was my first time hearing that term. So I
just looked it up and I started playing it, and
then I just kept playing it ever since.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
There's there's like this. In the nineties, it was deep Blue,
I think it was what it was called. It was
like a computer. And then there was Casparov, the Man,
and they would play and it was like the biggest deal.
It was like the super Bowl when I was a kid.
And I'm like, I don't even know if like people
know about that, And I love that. I love that
you're embracing it. Bill Walton just passed away, and I
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did a little bit of him in the monologue. But
there was a story that Danny Ainge told on one
of the Barstool podcasts that he would bring his chessboard
in the eighties on the plane and he would play
like an electronic chess. Like this is like there's a
long history of athletes loving chess, which I think is
so cool.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, It's so stimulated and it's a fun game to play.
You can make it quick, you can make it slow.
What I love about it is just kind of the same,
but it's always different, which is the same to football.
You know, like plays are for the most part, a
lot of them are the same, but it's always just
slightly different. And it's amazing how that just changed the
dynamics of everything else.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So you know, that's it's just fascinating Kyler. You see
him pre game. If you guys play them like, is
there like what's up? Like are you shit talking? Or
is it like respect? Like all right, like guys like
it's a fellow chess player. But I did beat you.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You know, it's all it's all love. It's all. It's
all in love and spirit, man.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So we're competitive on the chessboard, we're competitive on the field.
You know, defensive guys on the chess board tend to
be a little bit more aggressive. I think that's just
in our personalities. So you know, we just get an
opportunity to play good guys in great talent, man. And
I just love the competition.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Man. I so appreciate you coming on. It was awesome
talking to you. And I said it throughout this whole
playoff rounting even beforehand, that it's defensive backfield. And I
know you're losing Snead and that's a big loss, but
I have no doubt you guys will find a way
to keep it going. But you are the vocal leader,
and you were the dude, and it is so cool
that you have an interest outside of football like chess
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and are spreading the good will and spreading the good
word on how great an intellectual game it can be
and how it's really no different than football. It's preparation
and to attack when the time is right.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Exactly exactly. Couldn't have said it better, you know. So
excited for sneed, excited for us. It's going to be
a hell of a season. We're starting fast to Baltimore,
so it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
How about that When you got that schedule and you
see Baltimore Week one, it's like, really, okay.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I was really hoping that somebody else will play them
first so I can see on the whole quarterback option,
you know, with Derek Henry.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And the marchin totally and they're not going to show it.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
You know, We're up for the challenge and we're just
gonna have to buckle out chinch straps and we know
it's going to be a hard nosed, blue collar game,
so we're just gonna be prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, all right, you are the man. We so appreciate it.
Go to get to meetings Uh, Justin Reid, congratulations being
the blitz champion three champion of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Appreciate you, my guy. Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I gotta say I love Justin Reid. Love that entire interview.
I love that he is a chess champion and it's
talking about the Sicilian.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I love hearing him talk about playing against Kyler and
then scouting Kyler's moves from the previous game for his
next game.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Uh oh, it was great. Yeah, totally cool. And I
didn't know much about the the the alternative community of
chess players at the NFL. But then he starts rattling
off names like Joe Tuney's into it. Some of the
young guys are into it. You gotta think it's such
a physical sport football and you're you know, so so
like you know, in the zone for those eighteen weeks,
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Like what a wonderful release it might be to get
into chess, and gosh, Justin's the best in the sport,
which I love.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It also is a cool like we've you know, there
are stories of Miles Garrett would play Dungeons and Dragons
with some guys and like here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
These packers, oh lined itd settlers of Catan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I love hearing all those kind of stories about like
other things that they're doing together, especially in the locker
room where where you know they might have a bunch
of downtime. And if they can be even if they're
playing on their phone playing chess, that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Can Justin Reid be the next great NFL broadcaster? I
thought his energy was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He If he can talk about football the way he
talks about chess, which I'm sure he can, he would
be great. Get him to do Netflix days.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're actually playing the approach all right, all right, let's
wrap it here. Great podcast episode. Love being back on
the mic with you. Some housekeeping stuff. We're gonna keep
on churning out episodes as they come about. I didn't
have a GM or coach this week because they were
in camp. A lot of these guys are like, they're like,
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it's hard to get the schedule down when they're actually working.
So we're gonna bang out a bunch in the next
couple of weeks. But the Rangers are still alive. That's
the thing here. I've been finding myself without a four
thirty am wake up watching every NBA playoff game and
loving it, and I'm are you or a Luca guy?
(33:11):
That could be both, Like Luca's amazing the angles he
shoots the ball at with these like leaning and tilting,
but he does complain to the refs quite a bit,
which is getting on my nerves. But Ant's awesome, I thought,
I mean, we're recording this on Wednesday. Karl Anthony Towns,
who everyone on and everyone beats up on. I thought
he had two huge threes to keep that series alive.
(33:34):
I like watching him, so I don't think it's a
done deal. I think everyone's like, all right, well they'll
go and then Dallas will take care of business now.
And then the Pacers they led it in the final
minutes three different times and got swept. That was horrible.
But the Rangers Panthers the big deal here in New York.
And then, like I said, I'm going to be in
Kansas City for the big slick charity auction, slash function,
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slash hospital visits, slash celebrity softball, slash presentation, and slash
five K. There's a million things going on, but I'll
have stories next week. It'll be are you running the
five K? Two?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Bey? Nice?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I'm running that five k dude, I'm in I'm
in tip top physical shape right now. I've been I've
been getting ready for this weekend. But there's gonna be
a great turnout. And last year we raised like three
million dollars, so hoping to top that. Uh, Kansas City
has been really good to me and I hopefully can
add just a little bit to the weekend and maybe
help raise some funds there. So that's the big Slick
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charity event. Go find that out big Slick dot org. Uh,
that's it. It's all. I got aaron, great hearing from you,
great scene. Yes, sorry I called you a twenty year old.
That was a compliment and a lot of a lot
of pun I think a young spirit make it justin
read our guests. Fantastic. Jason English the man. Let's get
some of these clips online. Maybe I'll get a little
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clip of him talking chess, talking to Sicilian. I love that.
What was the other one, the Scotch.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, the Scotch is a different opening. So scotches if
you're white, Sicilian is black.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think got it. Okay, leave it at that. Yeah,
I don't know what you're even referring to their airing.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The color like if You're, if you're the white or
the black.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pieces On that note, see you guys next week. The
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Peter Schreger Listening to the Season with Peter Schreger. We
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are through Memorial Day weekend and we are looking at
the abyss of NFL news. But I wanted to pop
on and have a podcast because I want to check
out to one last week, and Aaron wan Kaufman is
joining me. I feel like we need to unpack the
schedule stuff a little bit and kind of set the
stage for what's going to happen over the next few weeks,
but also hit on some other things both around the league,
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around New York City, and around the sports and pop
culture world. Aaron, I'll go back to our interview with
Mike North, which is our last podcast, and I didn't
realize his quote about the Jets owing US one and
us being the league what's gonna take off the way
it did? It was like national news, and I'm like,
did you say that on our podcasts? And then I
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go back and the clip was from our podcast. So
what Mike North, who we love, the schedule maker from
the NFL, said was that the reason the Jets have
the most primetime games is because they're a Marquee team
and a Marquee network, and the way things went down
last year, tongue in cheek, he said, they owe us one.
Sure enough, the Jets have me, you can't. They asked
Rogers about it, and Rogers like, yeah, like, I think
(01:34):
we I think we did. Like Rogers was cool with it.
The Jets comment was big. The other thing that was
interesting was we were kind of on it before everyone else,
the Netflix deal and kind of unpacking that since so
I didn't realize how I'm not gonna say monumental it was,
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but I think it caught a lot of people by
surprise if they were able to put together that Netflix
package so soon, because in March they had the league
meetings and Netflix was not in many of the conversations
with the other league broadcast partners. So you have your CBS,
you have your EVS, ESPN, you got Fox, you got NBC,
and how you got Amazon? Now, if you're Amazon, you're like,
(02:17):
all right, we just shelled out all this money for
the Black Friday ownership, which is kind of like that
holiday feel, and we're also gonna be getting a playoff game,
and we've now got a couple of years under our
belt with Thursday Night Football. If we're the official streaming
partner and we're paying all this money for Black Friday,
Christmas Day, seems like a natural link. Well, Netflix comes in.
(02:39):
They do the deal with Netflix, which interesting is it's
just for two games, and Netflix has given no indication
that they're looking to like buy a bigger package. From
all the reading and all the conversations I've done, Netflix
brings something that the other networks apparently do not, and
that is this global audience all under one tenth. So
what does that mean? Yeah, the Fox games are broadcasted overseas,
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and yes the CBS games are broadcasted, but those might
be on partner networks like Sky or be in Sport
or wherever those those other networks are overseas. With Netflix
on this Christmas Day game, everyone's gonna watch it on
the same network, on the same broadcast, with the same voice,
the same production, all at once. Is there a value
to that? I guess. Netflix apparently reaches way more in
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their global audience, and that was the NFL's push on it.
Netflix all also was willing to pay a certain dollar,
which I'm sure is very appealing in a lot of ways,
and it also brings another partner into the NFL, which
leads to, you know, negotiations with the league when it
comes to future games. Well, there's another person at the table.
I will say this. What's interesting is that, like in
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this dynamic, does the NFL need Netflix? I'd say it's
nice to have to get that Netflix audience. We saw
that the Quarterback series with the number one rated series
last summer, and that was a cool partnership. And the
Brady Roast obviously has football, you know, tentacles. Does Netflix
need the NFL, I don't know. Like to me, everything
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I've read, it's like they view this as an event,
and it's more like they're to the event of having
Christmas Day NFL and then they use that to maybe
promote the wrestling package they just paid five hundred million
dollars for throughout the Christmas Day event. They use that
to try out their new ad tier, which they're kind
of soft launching and using in a different way. You're
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going to can't avoid the ads. If they're going to
do an NFL game, they'll put them on and they'll
be able to use that ad tier for the first time.
A lot of conversation to the Netflix thing. It wasn't
as necessarily clean and easy as like, all right, here
we go Netflix. It seems like some folks were caught
off guard a little bit. I don't think there's any
sour feelings. I don't think anyone's upset, But now you
have this Netflix deal. And the one thing that I
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asked Mike North, which is interesting, is like, who's going
to broadcast these games? And when they says that, it's like,
who's going to produce the games? So when Amazon came
in for Thursday night football, NBC was very much in
line with Amazon and helped guide them through it. When
the NFL network broadcasted all those games on Thursday nights
for many years, it was the Fox broadcast crew would
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help put it on. Then it was CBS would help
put those on. We still don't know, so I assume
this is how this will play out. Netflix will pay
either Fox, CBS or ESPN, Abc, NBC. I don't think
NBC because Amazon's with NBC, but one of those three
they'll pay them a fee and those guys will use
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their producers, their trucks, their directors, their ads, their camera folks,
they'll come in with that and then on air. There
hasn't been really much discussion publicly, and I've tried to
work back channels, like what's the plan on air for
this Netflix presentation of these two great Christmas Day games?
I mean we're talking great games. You're talking Steelers Chiefs.
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Those are two teams that are gonna be in the
playoff on they're talking Texans Ravens another two great teams.
Who's gonna be the broadcaster? So it's just gonna be like,
all right, well, CBS is broadcasting it, and the CBS
third crew is Andrew Catalan and Tiki Barber, So that's
who's doing the game. Or does Netflix truly say like no,
we want to have you know, I said Bert Kreischer
(06:26):
on the podcast with North, But it's like we have
a relationship with Kevin Hart, we have a relationship with
Nate BERGATZI, we have a relationship with Andre Agassy from
the tennis event, Like we want to mix this up
and maybe do a different approach at this. I know
there's a Netflix movie coming out now with Nicole Kidman
and Zach Efron, Like whatever the movie is that Christmas
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do they want to incorporate those people into their broadcast.
They can. I would imagine the NFL has a has
a voice. But like I said, Netflix, they're looking at
this in an event. I don't think it's just gonna
be all right here it is, roll it out and
there's Rich Eisen, there's Kurt Warner, there's you know whoever
else or the CBS there's Nate Burlison, and there's you know,
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Matt Ryan. I have to think they're gonna have their
own studio folks, and they were gonna have some sort
of different presentation which fascinated by. But uh, that's rapidly approaching,
Like this is already.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
In bed with Omaha from quarterback. So I wonder if they're,
like you're saying, they're taking influence from the Manning cast.
So it would be so easy for them to have
Nicole Kidman, Zach Efron, whoever like jump.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Out and does the audience Does the NFL audience want that?
Like if I'm if I'm as if I'm a Steelers
fan and my team is seven and nine going in
or seven and seven going into the game, do I
want and I have one who presented it? Do I
want you know Nate Bergatzi Andrew Schultz, BT, you know,
cracking jokes about Russell Wilson the Rugs or do I
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just want hey, I'm good, yeah, put on you know,
give me two random announcers from Fox. I'm like the four,
give me, give me Adam and Mark shal Earth and
I'm good. Let's just have the game on Netflix. Like so,
I think those are really in the weeds conversations. But
that's been sort of a buzz in the fallout after
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the Netflix decision. I think it's cool. I think bring
in more partners, let's see different creative ways and more
people broadcasting football is better. The other thing that I
wanted to mention up top was the passing of Bill Walton. Aaron,
do you have any history of being a Walton fan
or a knowledge of Walton? I know you're of a
different generation. You're in your twenties. I'm in my forties.
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Where do you stand on Walton?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, I'm a huge basketball fan. I don't have
myself any memories of watching I'm also honored that you
think I'm in my twenties.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Because early thirties.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But I love this past week seeing so many other
basketball voices, voicing what Bill Walton meant not only to
the league as a player but afterwards as an ambassador
for the league and sort of like being there to
usher in this like kind a more connected period between
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the NBA and the media, which I think he had
a pard in, especially early on. But I don't have like, oh,
I've got this his like sitting there watching Walton games
or anything.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So no, but I'll tell you growing up a huge
football fan, I obviously I always say this sounds a
huge hoopshead too, so like I have the you know,
knowledge of Walton's game, but I was thinking more of
just like as a broadcaster and as a personality. Obviously,
if you've written, if you've followed Walton, or you knew
the eulogy or the stuff that's been written in the
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obituary is like he was like a terrible stat stuttering.
He overcame that and it's became one of the best broadcasters.
But like everyone has this nostalgia for NBA on NBC,
and it's Marv Albert and it's Fortello and it's Round
Ball Rock and it's Peter Vessi and it's a morber Shott.
But like those West Coast games were very often a
trio of Tom Hammond, who was kind of your like
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you know, ham and Egg right down the middle. He
does the horse racing and he would do these West
Coast games. And then it was a duo of Bill
Walton and Steve Snapper Jones, and I think those guys
defined a generation of like West Coast basketball, because everyone
thinks of Marv Albert on the call for like Michael
Jordan versus Reggie Miller, or Michael Jordan versus Patrick Ewing,
or you named the East Coast Battle of the Nixon Pacers,
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and that's true. On the West Coast, you would have
these games between like the Suns, you know, the Phoenix
Suns taking on the La Lakers in a first round
series that I remember was amazing. Those guys were on
the call, or like Courtland got really good in the
late nineties and they had this like awesome team, or
the Sacramento Kings and the Lakers in the early two thousands,
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and it was always Bill Walton on those calls for
those West Coast playoff games, and he was truly like
out there, so out there, but you learned to embrace it.
And I just thought one of the interesting things is
like how he's been eulogized by everyone in sports. It's
not a out his accomplishments, not it's just like what
a good duty was, Like what a great dude, what
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a great spirit. And that includes the Grateful Dead, you know,
you know, a whole world. Obviously, Jack coming out Reggie
Miller last night during during the game said like, you know,
when he walked onto the court at UCLA thirty one
years ago, Bill Walton like reached out and was like,
here's how you're gonna be a UCLA brewing. But you know,
Walton was like at one with the earth. He was.
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He was a guy who would cycle sixty miles a day.
Super uh eccentric, but also super eclectic in his interests.
You know, the Grateful Dead stuff casts a shadow or
a or a haze over over a lot of this
stuff because you're like, wow, he is, he's really at
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one with the earth. But like, really cool dude. And
you know, in an era where it's so much content
and there's an era where it's like, all right, I'm
gonna break down the exos and nose and tell you
what you're you know, there's a place for just a
good dude who was like a nice guy that everyone
liked talking to, who said crazy shit, and also was
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really respected and beloved by those he worked with. Our
guest today on the podcast is going to be a
little outside the box. I usually resist from doing too
many players, and the reason why is because I think
the players are usually pretty tight lipped and don't have
much to say that it's compelling podcast content until they retire,
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and then they start opening up and tell great stories,
either they go into media or they have these amazing
second lives, or if they don't, it's they have a
connection to the game. But as a current player, you're
usually pretty much p's and q's.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
There are exceptions. The Kelsey Brothers do their podcast, Michael
Parsons Talks, Jamar Chase Talks. We've had a lot of
these guys in the media world. But if I'm being honest,
unless you're one of the top quarterbacks, or you're a
really interesting guy or a team leader who's been in
the league for many years, probably don't need to have
you on the season with Peter Sugar because we're trying
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to get inside the huddle a little bit and into
the weeds and if you're going to open up, it
might not be over with me over a phone call
or in zoom or It's kind of why I Super
Bowl shows Aaron, whether it be Good Morning Football or
if you like I don't. I don't have much for
the player interview on behalf of Old Spice. It doesn't
do much for me if if you're being honest content wise,
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but if you're telling me you can get a coach
or a GM where you can get an ex player
who used to play for the team that's in the
Super Bowl and knows Eric b Enemy and knows Andy Reid,
and sign me up. Say all that, because our guest
is coming on for an interesting reason. The guest is
Justin Reid, who is the starting safety and the Super
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Bowl champion Chiefs, And that in itself is cool and
we could do a whole conversation and maybe we will.
But the reason I'm having him on is because I
saw a little blurb, a little blurb I'm like Apple
News last week that Justin Reid won a tournament called
the Blitz, which was the NFL's in house chess tournament. Yes,
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the NFL's in house chess tournament where the NFL's best
chess players all competed. We're going to talk Chiefs and
we'll get there and he'll answer what he wants, But
I want to talk chess. Justin Reid's joining us right
for this. I'm so excited for our guests. He's a
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Super Bowl champion two times over. He is the man
in the defensive back field for one of the best
defenses in the league, and obviously one of the most
vocal guys on that unit and a true leader. And
I want to talk to him about some of the
stuff he did off the field last week. Justin Reid,
Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Hey, what's going on, Bro? Appreciate you bringing me on.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I love having on first off Super Bowl champion in February.
We're now at like mini camp in June. Is it
turned the page next year time? But with the ring
ceremonies still kind of hovering in the next couple of
weeks or can you still appreciate what we did last year?
Where are we as far as the mint ding?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, the last page of the book. We're doing on
the last page of the book, we're getting ready to
close it. We got the white House visit coming up
on Friday, and then we got the ring ceremony coming
up in about two weeks. So those are the last
two end notes or footnotes into this chapter. And then
we're going to close this book and open up a
new one and try and get our new players and
(15:46):
our young guys here that haven't had the chance to
experience the championship.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We're going to try and get the marine.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What's Coach Reed say about the White House visit that's
going to be in a couple of days. We're recording
this on Wednesday. Does he give like primers to the
young guys, like, okay, here's what the dresses I here?
Because I remember a couple of years ago, Kelsey took
the mic and it was like, all right, all bets
are off.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
We'll see how good we are keeping them from it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You know, Kelsey has a lot to say all the time,
and that guy's just so so funny. He's always a character.
So we'll see what he has of his sleep. But
you know, formal retire we want to be classy, want
to do everything first class, So student ties for everybody,
and we're just gonna dress clean and enjoy the visit.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Have they given you any prep on what's in store
for the ring ceremony. These Kansas City players and teams
and coaches like you guys are so spoiled that it's like, well,
what's going to be different from the other years?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Just like what is It's been a little bit more
close to the chest this year than last year. Like
last year, we had a committee to talk about things
that we wanted on the ring, and you know, most
of the guys just wanted it to be as big
as possible, as many times as possible. So I think
that you know, they probably just remembered that from last year,
and you know it's going to be cool. We'll see
(16:52):
what they come up with.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know. One of the reasons I went out of
my way to like specifically ask for you as a
guest is because last Wednesday was May twenty second, and
I'm just fiddling around on my phone, check in Twitter, whatever,
and I see this alert on Apple News. Yes, sir,
Justin Reid is crowned the winner of Blitz Champs three.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Championship season Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Between NFL Stars.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So, I don't think anyone at home listening to this
is necessarily aware of what Blitz Champs three is, But
can you take us through what that is and what
sport you won in?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, so it's blitz.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Champs three is a is an event put on by
Chess dot Com and its speed chess, So it's time chess.
Each person has a has a timer that they have
to make their moves and we played five minute games
and three minute games and it was a It was
a person double elimination style tournament. We had guys like
Larry Fitzgerald, Kyler, Murray Quinn, Nelson, Drew Tranquil who actually
(17:56):
won last year, Chadobe, oh Wuzier, myself, Michael Vick, just
some of the characters already and there playing and it
was double elimination and uh you know, oh MATC. Collins
was another guy, and it was just you know, some
speed chess competition, friendly competition, and it was all in
the name of charity. So we each represented our own
foundations or a foundation of our choice, and uh, you know,
(18:17):
I was just fortunate enough to come out on top.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Who'd you get in the first round? Who was your
first round matchup?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So first round was tough.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I actually had my work cutout for me with ch Adobe, Wuzier,
I am because everything I do I want to do
at one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I want to win everything. So I actually hired a
grandmaster to coach me.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Some Russian comes walking in like who do we?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, like name is James Canty. I hired him like
six weeks before the competition. He actually taught me how
to scout. You can watch guys games if you know
they're using name. So I scouted Chadobe's games to learn
a little bit about how he played, and we had
a game plan going in.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
So with ch Adobe's like opening, he did the same
opening every single time. Is that how that works?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
You know, you see what opening the guys the strongest with,
and you try and if your opening isn't good against that,
you have a plan for it. But if yours works,
you just you stick to your guns and you roll
with it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right? So six weeks ago you hire this grand
this grandmaster, does he come to you or you guys
over zoom? What's the like virtue of that picture?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So we did a couple of times, like.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like when I was playing games and its only he
wasn't allowed to tell me what to do, but after
I made a move, he would tell me you could
have made if you did this movie, it would have
been better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So just through that, and then he gave me some
videos to watch.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So, like, I like playing on the Sicilian tom and
all as black, that's just like different opening names. And
I like playing the Scotch Game as white. So he
sent me some videos on watching some some professional players
that play that way, so I can learn a little.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Bit from them.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, So I gotta go back even further. When did
you pick up chess? Was this like a COVID thing?
Or have you been playing your whole life?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
When when did chess?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Like?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Really, like a year or two before COVID, we had
we had a I had a teammate of mine, Philip Games,
that we used to call Grand Mass to Phiel because
he was always in his locker playing online chess. So
he was playing, and you know what I mean, I like,
I like to just interact with my teammates. You know,
whatever they're into, I'll just play along with it, just
because I want to connect to each and every one
of them, you know, built that that friendship in that brotherhood.
(20:21):
So we started playing and he was whooping my tail. Yeah,
he was whooping me. So then me being competitive, I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna go study up and I'm
gonna go try and be competitive. I didn't beat him
for a year, yeah, like maybe two years, but then
just keep practicing and he's a little bit better at it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I'd never played golf my whole life, and everyone
would always play golf. And then when I turned forty,
I'm like, you know what, screw it, I want to
learn golf. It sounds kind of the same thing. You're like,
you know what, I'm just gonna be. I'm gonna I'm
gonna dive into chess and you're a competitor. Yeah, and
and you get through a doozy U Chadobi, and then
who's next.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah. So after Chadoby, it was mac Collins.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, not wearing any shoes, never wear shoes, he's always barefoot.
That's his.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Smart cat.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And he was real friendly too, like we alised so
many the same people, especially so NVS actually told him
that he was like, oh, you better watch out for
j Ree because they're both there in Buffalo right now.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Nymbees another buddy of mine.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And then after mccollins, it was Calamary and then I
beat Calamary the first time two games of one, and
then he had to go and play mccollins to get
back into the championship game.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he played and beat mccollins.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
And in that game that he was playing mccollins, I
went back and scouted our game and.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yes, what moves. Yeah, I looked at what moves could
have been better?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And then like I played the same opening, he played
the same opening, and I was like, oh, okay, I got
I already know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Now it's already done. Like does does Spags or Dave Merritt, Like,
do they know like what that you're putting in this
time of scouting and preparation, Like, I'm so impressed by
your preparation and the mental gymnastics of this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Failure to preparers prepared in the field man, and you
know what I mean. So I take preparation very seriously.
That's where all my confidence comes from playing football, That's
where it comes from playing chess. But actually put it
up in the team meetings today that they I was like,
the blst chance thing. You know, we're back to back
here in the in the chiefs like.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, yeah, so don't I don't play chess. My kid
is in elementary school and he's playing it, and he
talks in a language. I don't know. How hard was
it to learn you said the Sicilian and this other
thing like the sketch. How hard was it to learn
these terms? And how long did it take for you
to feel pretty comfortable in those chess circles?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You know, it really just depends on how how much
time you put into it, you know what I mean,
Like if you if you put in five ten minutes
a day, you can really pick up on it pretty quickly.
I loved it so much. I was probably putting in
like one and a half to two hours a day.
Yes to doing puzzles, are playing games. And you know,
if you're putting in that much time, you can really
start picking it up after about you know, maybe a month.
(22:53):
You really start picking it up in about two weeks,
but you right start getting good in about two months
three months, and then from there you just keep getting
better and refining. And you know, by the time you've
been playing for a year or two years, you can
get pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, like I during my son is picking it up,
I was like, all right, let's go on chess dot
com and like you could play like Gordon Hayward from
you know, like the NBA, he's he's a he's a
chess player. And I think Larry fitz was like.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
On its class computerized bots that they yeah, you can
play there.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Do you have you ever go on there and just
play against random strangers? Is like an anonymous person.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Oh yeah, all the time. That's that's mainly what I do.
So it's fun because whatever skill level you are, it'll
match someone to the same skill level as you, and
you know, as you get better, you'll play better competition,
so you know, it stays fun.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Do you have any idea like how cool this is?
I think, you know, for kids everywhere, they all want
to be NFL players, But like short of that, to
learn that there's a crew of you guys that on
your off time or choosing to play chess, I think
is so inspiring. I think it's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, you know, it's just it's just fun to be multifaceted.
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I love football, It's what I do. I come to
work with a smile on my face every day because
I have the great job in the world. But besides that,
it's okay to have more than one passion. You know,
you can play more than one sport. You're gonna have
more than one hobby. So it's just things that you
know you like to do, and you know it adds
some personality, some some uniqueness and some character. You know,
it's a it's a fun skill that you know you
(24:23):
never know what it will bring up. And you know,
I was playing it for fun and I was able
to win a thirty thousand dollars check for my charity
because of it. So when you can combine two things,
something that you already love to do and make a
good cause out of it, I mean you just can't
beat that.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Is there anyone on the team today at the meeting
or you know, you and Tranquil are talking about it,
Who's like, hey, guys, like I've never played, Like can
you help me? Can you get me started? Have you
inspired anyone to pick it up since joining the Chiefs?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, you know some of the young guys. Some of
the young guys play. Joe Joe, Joe Tuny, he plays
a lot too. He already knows how to play. Okay,
we played I bring a chessboard with the pieces on
the training camp every year.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Joseph like, Pa, break it out. I love it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, we get some rounds in the locker room in
our downtime. So yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What's your charity and where can people learn more about
it and maybe make a j.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Read Indeed, Jay Read Indeed. We focus on three pillars.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
The biggest pillar is the tech space and computer science
and try and make computer science cool. And we try
to meet kids where we're at. So, you know, kids
are into sports, learning the music. So we love to
take the concepts of sports and music and try and
you know, hey, this is your issues. This is how
we want every kid to be the superstar. We want
(25:39):
every kid to be the star artist. But in case
that isn't in your cards, you can still follow your
passion and computer science can help you do that. We
try and introduce tools and techniques and skill sets that
will help them and help them find a career field
as they grow up and mature. We have Microsoft as
a partner, so we do a lot of Excel proficiency
and a lot of life skills, some financial literacy and
(25:59):
some budgeting. And you know, you can find out more
information at my website. Jareadindeed dot com or any of
our social handles, you know, Twitter, Instagram at jay Reed Indeed.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So we're excited about that.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
We have two events coming up to a charity softball
game that's going to be offense versus defense, and trying
to recruit some help on the defensive side of the
ball because offense has some former baseball players, so they kind.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Of be up on us last year. I'm not gonna
let that happen again.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, No, when is that golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Coming up to?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
When's a softball game.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That is next Thursday, June sixth Okay?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And is it mostly Chiefs players? Are all guys around
the league.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, so it's Chiefs players with a couple of celebrity
guests offense versus defense format, and we have some celebrity
guests that go to come in and play too.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All right, and do you like get your defensive back team?
I guess Trent McDuffie going to be playing third base. Like,
what do we have in store? Let me hear the
scouting report.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, we're all going to the batting CAGs. We gotta
get right. Yeah, we need a star clift. You know,
Nick Bolton has some baseball background. I'm gonna need to
Nick to be my star player, man.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I mean them at shortstop. Let's say, miss, let's go, hey.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You're you're you're going third, bro, We need we need
to just get on the pace you're betting third, go ahead,
get us three runs real quick.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I love this. And then the golf tournament is shortly thereafter.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, golf tournament is June seventeen, also here in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I love it. Man, that's great. Uh. I think it's
really cool you guys did this. I wish it was more,
you know, widely known or publicized, because I think it's
so cool to see that there's these NFL guys who
do things other than play football. But also so are
applying it to such an intellectual game. Have you like,
have you watched Searching for Bobby Fisher or did you
(27:42):
see the Queen's Gambit? Like, are you into like chess
pop culture wise or no?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, you know the Queen's Gambit is actually what influenced
me to play the Sicilian. Hell yeah, So after watching that,
she played the Sicilian in one move and I was like, okay,
that was my first time hearing that term. So I
just looked it up and I started playing it, and
then I just kept playing it ever since.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
There's there's like this. In the nineties, it was deep Blue,
I think it was what it was called. It was
like a computer. And then there was Casparov, the Man,
and they would play and it was like the biggest deal.
It was like the super Bowl when I was a kid.
And I'm like, I don't even know if like people
know about that, And I love that. I love that
you're embracing it. Bill Walton just passed away, and I
(28:25):
did a little bit of him in the monologue. But
there was a story that Danny Ainge told on one
of the Barstool podcasts that he would bring his chessboard
in the eighties on the plane and he would play
like an electronic chess. Like this is like there's a
long history of athletes loving chess, which I think is
so cool.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, It's so stimulated and it's a fun game to play.
You can make it quick, you can make it slow.
What I love about it is just kind of the same,
but it's always different, which is the same to football.
You know, like plays are for the most part, a
lot of them are the same, but it's always just
slightly different. And it's amazing how that just changed the
dynamics of everything else.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So you know, that's it's just fascinating Kyler. You see
him pre game. If you guys play them like, is
there like what's up? Like are you shit talking? Or
is it like respect? Like all right, like guys like
it's a fellow chess player. But I did beat you.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You know, it's all it's all love. It's all. It's
all in love and spirit, man.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So we're competitive on the chessboard, we're competitive on the field.
You know, defensive guys on the chess board tend to
be a little bit more aggressive. I think that's just
in our personalities. So you know, we just get an
opportunity to play good guys in great talent, man. And
I just love the competition.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Man. I so appreciate you coming on. It was awesome
talking to you. And I said it throughout this whole
playoff rounting even beforehand, that it's defensive backfield. And I
know you're losing Snead and that's a big loss, but
I have no doubt you guys will find a way
to keep it going. But you are the vocal leader,
and you were the dude, and it is so cool
that you have an interest outside of football like chess
(29:56):
and are spreading the good will and spreading the good
word on how great an intellectual game it can be
and how it's really no different than football. It's preparation
and to attack when the time is right.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Exactly exactly. Couldn't have said it better, you know. So
excited for sneed, excited for us. It's going to be
a hell of a season. We're starting fast to Baltimore,
so it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
How about that When you got that schedule and you
see Baltimore Week one, it's like, really, okay.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I was really hoping that somebody else will play them
first so I can see on the whole quarterback option,
you know, with Derek Henry.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And the marchin totally and they're not going to show it.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
You know, We're up for the challenge and we're just
gonna have to buckle out chinch straps and we know
it's going to be a hard nosed, blue collar game,
so we're just gonna be prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, all right, you are the man. We so appreciate it.
Go to get to meetings Uh, Justin Reid, congratulations being
the blitz champion three champion of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Appreciate you, my guy. Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I gotta say I love Justin Reid. Love that entire interview.
I love that he is a chess champion and it's
talking about the Sicilian.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I love hearing him talk about playing against Kyler and
then scouting Kyler's moves from the previous game for his
next game.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Uh oh, it was great. Yeah, totally cool. And I
didn't know much about the the the alternative community of
chess players at the NFL. But then he starts rattling
off names like Joe Tuney's into it. Some of the
young guys are into it. You gotta think it's such
a physical sport football and you're you know, so so
like you know, in the zone for those eighteen weeks,
(31:39):
Like what a wonderful release it might be to get
into chess, and gosh, Justin's the best in the sport,
which I love.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It also is a cool like we've you know, there
are stories of Miles Garrett would play Dungeons and Dragons
with some guys and like here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
These packers, oh lined itd settlers of Catan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I love hearing all those kind of stories about like
other things that they're doing together, especially in the locker
room where where you know they might have a bunch
of downtime. And if they can be even if they're
playing on their phone playing chess, that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Can Justin Reid be the next great NFL broadcaster? I
thought his energy was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He If he can talk about football the way he
talks about chess, which I'm sure he can, he would
be great. Get him to do Netflix days.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're actually playing the approach all right, all right, let's
wrap it here. Great podcast episode. Love being back on
the mic with you. Some housekeeping stuff. We're gonna keep
on churning out episodes as they come about. I didn't
have a GM or coach this week because they were
in camp. A lot of these guys are like, they're like,
(32:50):
it's hard to get the schedule down when they're actually working.
So we're gonna bang out a bunch in the next
couple of weeks. But the Rangers are still alive. That's
the thing here. I've been finding myself without a four
thirty am wake up watching every NBA playoff game and
loving it, and I'm are you or a Luca guy?
(33:11):
That could be both, Like Luca's amazing the angles he
shoots the ball at with these like leaning and tilting,
but he does complain to the refs quite a bit,
which is getting on my nerves. But Ant's awesome, I thought,
I mean, we're recording this on Wednesday. Karl Anthony Towns,
who everyone on and everyone beats up on. I thought
he had two huge threes to keep that series alive.
(33:34):
I like watching him, so I don't think it's a
done deal. I think everyone's like, all right, well they'll
go and then Dallas will take care of business now.
And then the Pacers they led it in the final
minutes three different times and got swept. That was horrible.
But the Rangers Panthers the big deal here in New York.
And then, like I said, I'm going to be in
Kansas City for the big slick charity auction, slash function,
(33:58):
slash hospital visits, slash celebrity softball, slash presentation, and slash
five K. There's a million things going on, but I'll
have stories next week. It'll be are you running the
five K? Two?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Bey? Nice?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I'm running that five k dude, I'm in I'm
in tip top physical shape right now. I've been I've
been getting ready for this weekend. But there's gonna be
a great turnout. And last year we raised like three
million dollars, so hoping to top that. Uh, Kansas City
has been really good to me and I hopefully can
add just a little bit to the weekend and maybe
help raise some funds there. So that's the big Slick
(34:34):
charity event. Go find that out big Slick dot org. Uh,
that's it. It's all. I got aaron, great hearing from you,
great scene. Yes, sorry I called you a twenty year old.
That was a compliment and a lot of a lot
of pun I think a young spirit make it justin
read our guests. Fantastic. Jason English the man. Let's get
some of these clips online. Maybe I'll get a little
(34:54):
clip of him talking chess, talking to Sicilian. I love that.
What was the other one, the Scotch.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, the Scotch is a different opening. So scotches if
you're white, Sicilian is black.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think got it. Okay, leave it at that. Yeah,
I don't know what you're even referring to their airing.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The color like if You're, if you're the white or
the black.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pieces On that note, see you guys next week. The
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