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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Wait, wait, wait, wait up here and Kiki, you have
a demographic of fans that I never knew about. Really
it is fifty plus year old white man. What today?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Come give me here. Every day Fred's show is on
Good Morning Everyone. Monday May twelfth, It's the Fred Show. Hi, Kailin,
good morning, Hi Jason Brown, Hi Paulina, Hi Kiki, Good
morning Bella. I mean it's back tomorrow. Each five five, five, nine, one,
one o three five. You can call him Texas, same
number anytime. Kiky's Corny his next. But I'm bump girl.

(00:41):
It's a thin line between love and hate headlines and
the biggest stories of the day. Stealthie's in cancer. Woh,
I know it's serious. Fun fact is coming up? What's
in the entertainer report this hour?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Kay, I will tell you who used Mother's Day to
send an interesting message to their ax.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
On the edge of my seat. Lately, each day I
get on TikTok to watch the Karen Reid trial. Okay,
I don't. I don't think she did it. If she
did it, it wasn't on purpose. And if either way,
the prosecution for the second time are the biggest bunch

(01:20):
of morons that I I mean, the ineptitude is unbelievable
times too, with a whole different set of people, and
the and the I'm sorry, but you know, I'm a
big police backer and first responder guy. But these guys
are idiots. These guys are they got shoes they don't
know about in the wrong bags they got they got
They're flirting with her, They're saying names, whether they got

(01:42):
people getting you know, they're they're they're calling your names,
they got people getting fired. They the experts don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
When I tell you that Karen's lawyer Alan Jackson not
to be confused with the country singer, I.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Thought it was except I think Alan Jackson passed away
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, rip is everything to me, Like, I don't know
how you can be a fan of a lawyer, but
like I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
His biggest fan. Phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I want merch like that tiny man. Where does he
have time to get those guns? Like he's hitting the
gym too, He has time to.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Do it all.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He is eating those I know that they're not called monologues,
but he's eating those monologues up in court.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
The cross examination a performance.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You have to have a close in the last trial
an hour you have to talk in your closing statement.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
He eats it up well, and he's just he's crushing
these people in cross examination. He did defend Harvey Weinstein too,
which I don't love he did. He's a defense attorney. Okay,
he is a defense attorney, so you don't get to,
you know, necessarily pick your clients. Okay, No, I'm not
that those two things were. I think you can think
he's very good.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
And and but I mean again, I just met him,
you guys, I.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Just thought he was somebody who pointed that out to me. No, no,
but I'm just putting that out there so that people
know I am aware. But again, I mean, damn. You know,
you can stay with you want about all those defense
attorneys Johnny Cochran and those guys who defended OJ. You
could say what you want about him, but I mean
that was their job to get him off, remember that,
and they were successful. So I you know, uh, say

(03:10):
what you want about a defense attorney that I don't
know that you necessarily I'm sure you can say no
to cases, but I don't really know why he was
involved with that one. But nonetheless, he's very good at
his job.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Because I do believe she's innocent, So that's why I
love him so much. But I was not aware of that.
You gotta talk to God about that one.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Alan, Yeah, again, I don't I don't know. I remember.
Everyone's entitled to a except for maybe him. Everyone's entitled
to a defensive Yeah, it's possible that she hit him
and didn't know it. It's possible, but I don't see
how a jury could could even begin to trust any
of the information that's being presented when I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sober, I couldn't hit a person with my back right
tail light at the force that it would cause to
kill them, like the aims she would have to have.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I was drunk. Alan Jackson's tol u, why do
I think he was doing? Oh? You thought Toby King?
Who think Toby Keith? Maybe he's doing toy right now?
Well that's why I asked the question, actually, because I
wasn't sure, but I thought maybe. All right, Well, a
couple of a couple of the interesting facts we've learned
in this segment then that we didn't know about before.

(04:16):
But okay, well, sorry about that, Alan, big fan and
uh he was at the A Well, not surprisingly, I
didn't watch it.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Alan, Here, I'm glad you're alive.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Why Why am I thinking? Why? Who was I thinking?
I think, yeah, Toby Keith did past I like a
couple of where he was at the a c MS. Okay,
well I didn't watch that, so not surprisingly. But here,
let me just make it. Let me make you a
little bit of money, I thought. I'm like, I think
you said, you're like you have any dan just for

(04:50):
a second. How many seconds do I have to play
for him to make some money to make up for that?
Because I'm glad that he's alive to sing this.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Song to.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
That you have to play?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
He sounds very alive here.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
By the way, your real is Jason.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You knew that he was alive and didn't say anything. Well,
we don't chase it. We don't need to roll with
things that we were wrong about. You're more than welcome
to let us know we're so much alive. That we
thought was that the prosecutor is doing an excellent job?
Are you serious? Are you serious? Are we watching the

(05:38):
same thing? Sorry? Alan, are we watching the same thing?
It is a disaster. It is an absolute disaster. And
I don't know if it's the prosecutor's fall as much
as he is the dummies that he's that that that
he has to work with.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So it's a new prosecutor because I just finished the
docu series.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
This is a it is a disaster, and I'm sorry.
But the defense attorney is Alan Jackson, who's related to
not related to the singer. Both very much alive of them. Yeah,
as I was saying, it's never been more alive, Jason
stops saying he's dead. Unbelievable. That please don't let us
sit here. It sound like idiots without correcting us. It's

(06:17):
why there are thirty seven people in the room. Surely
someone has time to google it. I want to apologize
publicly to all the Alan Jacksons, including the ones that
were killed off that were very much alive.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Goodness, they're alive. Yeah, I love that. And she's a
bank what are you watching? No, it's it's it's a mess.
And the judge is so boud, Barb is so biased.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Barb is a new judge too, No sage.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I believe her name is Barb, and we can can
we double check that too, since I don't think we're
really We're not We're not really back in a thousand
in the facts this morning, when we normally don't but
we try. No, it's it's this is no. I I
do not see how she gets. I mean, I can
see her getting charged with the but it was the
lesser charge of manslaughter or something and as opposed to

(07:04):
first three murder. But I don't even think they can
charge you with the reasonable doubt is beyond is beyond?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I've never been so into something as I am into
this trial.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
And the second thing that I've been following each day
all day and people have been dming me asking us
to talk about this is a dude named Phoenix. Now
Phoenix is sailing from Oregon to Hawaii. You know boat
that he bought after he quit his job at discount
tire and catched out his four oh one k at
a very young age and decided, you know what, forget

(07:40):
about it. I'm done with this, like I've had enough
and I'm just going to I'm going to just go
on this adventure with my cat. He brought his cat
on the boat. I believe we're on day like eleven
or something. This is day eleven. Yeah, sailing from Oregon
to Hawaii. With my cat. Yep, this is a thank
you video to Crack and Sales. I'm not sponsored. They

(08:04):
didn't ask me to do this. There's there's been no
I'm just I'm just saying thank you, is what it is.
And before I had.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
Any big following or anything like that, these guys at
cranking cracking sales that gave me this main sale and
a storm.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Jib uh.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
He kind of heard my story and he knew about
my neck.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So he's just going on and on about this sale.
But nonetheless, this is he's I guess he has like
Starling Internet or something, so he's able to update his
journey as he goes, which I believe he has another
ten days or two weeks left. But yeah, the dude
is he and his cat. He just did. Forget about it.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I get it. The judge's name is Beverly, not bar.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's bad barb okay, good, thank you a couple. I
don't care. She's terrible. I don't care, not what. I
don't care about it. She's alive, by the way, she
is alive. She's alive. She hangs out with that one
Jackson musicians, all of them. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
Alan Jackson, the project or the defense Aturney will be
hanging out with Bev when this is all over. I
knew it was one of those bees.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, Bev Barb, It's interesting that you.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Would have the same judge.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I'm just very fascinated by the whole thing and the
fact that it was.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
A mistrial and they couldn't come to an agreement.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Oh yeah, yeah. And I realized that the burden is
less on manslaughter. I do not again a bunch of
things that if you come to us for facts, please
don't then you should listen to someone else. But because
we try and get it right, but we usually don't,
I believe the burden is less for manslaughter than it

(09:36):
is for first screen murder. But I don't see how
you can. I don't see how you can. The ineptitudey
is unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know how you can. You
could convict her of anything at this point.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, because one of them is like, you were acting
carelessly and someone died, but it wasn't intentional.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
And one of them is that was my intention to
kill you.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Honestly, I don't think it was either. I don't think.
But anyway, you should follow this guy because very inspired
story Phoenix Sailing with Phoenix, and he's got a gazillion
followers and people are doing this thing. What would you do, though,
if you just one day you woke up and you
said enough, enough is enough. I'm catching in my non
existent for a one k yep, and I'm what would
you do? Like? What would be if you could just

(10:17):
if it didn't matter to you in that moment and
you just wanted to free yourself of all of this?
What would you do, Kiki? Go to Cabo, live in
a resort and start a parting. Well, we need some
money for that. Well, you said, I catched him and
I didn't care whoa. I just went out there. Well okay, okay,
Now how long would you live? And said resort? Oh,

(10:38):
I want to live there forever. That's a very expensive
thing to do. Yes, I would like to live there forever. Okay, Caitlin,
It's like, hey, you know what, forget about it, We're
done with this.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I would miss you guys too much.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
No, but really I really would. I.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, maybe a cabin, but I think I would go
crazy after a little while.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Can I be a snowbird? Would you go by your health?

Speaker 7 (11:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I love people. Okay, yeah, all right, Jason.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
I would go live on a farm, but have someone
else do the farm work, and I would just live
on it in the middle of nowhere, just okay, Mike
and our animals.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So would you do any of the work or no? No, oh,
you wouldn't do it any of ok I'd just like
go live on TikTok and get money that way. Well
that's and I don't think this guy necessarily intended to
become as famous as he has, but I'm sure he's
going to make write a book and make a ton
of money. So it worked out for him. Oh yeah,
but he was done. He was done with his nine
to five, he was done with his retail jobs. I
forget about it. I'm minus boat. I'm doing the thing.

(11:33):
What would you do, Paulina? Honestly, I just pack up
and go to Palm Springs.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
I'm gonna do that anyway when I'm like sixty five,
but I'll get a headstart.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Would you take your daughter and your husband with you? Absolutely?
My husband will be at the casino. My daughter, Well
that's a bad plan already. Yeah, we definitely budget, but
let's go to the casino.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
Well, that's the only way I'm going to get him
out there, and then I will be living in the desert.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You're from the desert, you know what it's like. It's
a good time. Yeah, I am. I am from the desert.
You're right, yeah, Ezy. I guess if money didn't matter,
then i'd fly or fred I would just start flying
and just go and go and go and go and
go and go as far as I could possibly go,
and then at somethin I would just everywhere. Right, well, yeah,
I'd head towards Europe and then I would would take

(12:14):
me forever.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, in theory I could do it. Yeah, and then
I would just I would. I don't know I would
because once you're over there, then it's kind of unlimited
the stuff you could see and then find my way
back somehow. That's what I would do.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I still crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
You thought you would love COVID and then you were
outside like in terms of like, well more than.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
This is the same person who killed Alan Jackson.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Soation zero, you started COVID.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
If you had asked me, if you had asked me
before COVID a pandemic, there's a world where you could
work from your house and it would be okay with it,
and you didn't have to leave unless you wanted to,
and you didn't have to shower or shave or do anything,
and you could still, you know, make the same amount
of money and have you know, the ratings would be
fine or whatever else. I would have told you that

(13:04):
is an amazing thing and I want that, And it happened.
It happened, and then for about three days it was.
And then the fourth day I was like, nope, forget
about it. We'll getting COVID. Come to work. And we
all decided that collectively, and then we all got COVID,
but some of us who took longer than others, and
then some of us got it multiple times before the
other people did. But no, I, in fact did not.
I need a little bit of human interaction, I've decided.

(13:27):
And to do this show from separate locations is impossible. Yeah,
I have to look at all of your shining faces
each day. So I said, listening to the show this morning,
I feel like I'm high, just today, just today.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
First text ever from that person, were welcome.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
To being high. So that those are the two things
that I'm following very closely. I'm following well well. First
of all. The health of Alan Jackson is the first,
and I hope he's in great health. And the second
is the Karen Reid trial. And the third is this
dude's sailing his boat with a cat with a cat,
and a lot of people were worried about the cat.
I'm a little worried about the cat because I don't

(14:04):
I have not seen any of the videos him attached
to any kind of leash or rope or anything. So
my concern would be the kitty cat would just get
a little comfy on this boat after a couple of
weeks and get up on the deck and it gets
very wavy, you know, very rough seas. And I'm sure
he's aware of that. But I'm worried about the cat.
And another thing is the cat didn't get a vote
in this, like does the cat really want to do

(14:24):
this right? And that reminds me of you want to
hear a high thought. Here's a high thought, and then
we'll move on to Takiki's court. Here's a high and
I've had I've shared this with you before, but the
other day we were in Canada. Okay, we went there
for a conference that was last week, and we got
a little plane because we flew a little plane, little airline,
and the boss is on there. You were on their

(14:46):
kiki and that was all that could go on the
plane actually, because you could barely could get off the ground.
I love what I was asking if I could sit
up front of the airplane because I had a little
more leg room. The lady goes, I don't know, we're
pretty nose heavy today. Like when the lady from the
airline is saying, I don't know if that would work
because like, so you're saying if I sit in the front,
and I'm a pilot, so I'm familiar with weight and balance.

(15:07):
But it's like, so you're telling me that my placement
in the front could potentially mean we don't get to fly,
Like I don't maybe I'll sit in the back. Then
I'd be okay with him. But there were there was
a they were like I don't know what they were
nats or what they were, but there's like some little
bugs flying around in the plane, and I thought, do
these bugs realize they may not live in Canada anymore?

(15:30):
Like they they flew onto this plane and then we're
we're about to go land in the United States. And
then when they opened the door. What if they fly out?
Do they was just on purpose? Did they realize were
they making an escape? Because they may go on the
wrong way. You know, I don't know how many Canadians
want to accidentally wake up and live here or vice versa.
So I'm like this, I swear I'm not high, But

(15:52):
do you ever think about that? Like a bug, like
a little fly, flies onto the United plane and before
long they're in you know, Europe somewhere, and how they
live there? What if they don't speak the language?

Speaker 9 (16:03):
That must be a fun part about being a bug,
Like that's the adventure. You wake up and you never
know where you're gonna end up.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I just I wondered about these bugs. I'm like, oh,
I hope they stay on the plane. Maybe they're smartness
they notice see on a plane. Anyway, I swear that high,
but that was my I really did. I sat there,
I was really tired, but I stared at these guys,
and I'm like, should I should I show them out
so they can go home right before we take off?
They have a passport, that's real, man. No, I was
worried about I was worried about it. I was extremely

(16:29):
worried about it and the tariffs and everything. It's a
crazy time. Kiki's Court two minutes or a fresh show.
It's Kiki's Court goes new segment alert. I swear I'm
not high, but no, it's been a segment. Thank you. No,
it's it's been one for some time. But welcome if
you're new to the thing. A lot of people are
worried about the bugs. Several of my personal friends have

(16:53):
texted me and said, no, that's it's valid, like the
culture shock for these bugs. You know, you land and
you're like, where am I? And then also, I don't
know how many things we screwed up in that last
segment factually, but the cat's name is Oliver, or the
due's name is Oliver, the cat's name is Phoenix. It
doesn't matter. You knew what I was talking about. Thank

(17:14):
you for correcting me, and I'm fine with that. But
everyone knew I was talking about doing in the boat. Okay,
quit his job exactly. I think about this fantasy all
the time. I do, I really do. I think about
like because it's radio and they'll one day they'll build
make me get up at four in the morning, come
in here, do a show and then when I walk out,
they'll be standing there and they'll say, you know, it's
been nice. You can get the hell out of here.

(17:36):
It's radio. It will happen. Yeah, Unfortunately, it's the way
it is. And you guys can you know, protest if
you want or whatever. But it's just this, this is
a business that we work in. And I've thought about
the fantasy of like, oh my god, I would immediately
just go right to the airport and get a ticket
and I would just go and I would you'd never
see me again. And that would work for about the
first probably three hours, and then I'd be on that plane.

(17:58):
I'd be like, yes, wait and then I go, oh
my god, I don't have a job. And then the
rest of the trip would be ruined because I'd be
freaking out the whole time. I don't think I have
it in me just to go. You know what fled
Allen Jackson take the wheel either one of them, the
defense attorney or the very alive country set all right.
Kiki's court judge, Kiki, Hey, what say you? Who is

(18:18):
hot in his robe? Let's get into the courtroom.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
This one says, Hey, kikey am I wrong for feeling
a new level of hate for my daughter in law.
I'm a sixty year old mom of three adult children,
and for over twenty years I've hosted a Mother's Day
lunch at my house.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's a tradition.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
My kids bring flowers, we eat, we laugh, and I
get to spend time with the people that I raised.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
It means everything to me.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
This year, my oldest son Ben called and said he
would not be coming. He said he was spending the
day with his wife, Rachel and their kids. Apparently she
asked for a quiet day at home, breakfast in bed,
no visitors, and no driving.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I was stunned.

Speaker 9 (18:58):
I couldn't believe she convinced my son and to skip
the lunch entirely, not even stopping by, not even for
an hour. I said, Rachel is not your mother, and
this day is not about her. She gets a birthday,
she gets anniversaries. Can I have my one day? I
told him I felt like he was choosing her over
his own mother. He said, Rachel's been stressed with the
kids and that this is the.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Only thing that she wanted.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
I get that, but why does her day dictate what
happens with me and my son? He offered to call
me and maybe come by later in the week. And
I told him that was not the same. So I
text his wife and said, listen, I know you lost
your mom five years ago.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So maybe you don't understand how much.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yeah, so maybe you don't understand how much these traditions matter,
but they matter.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well that's a very messed up way of saying that.
But okay, now, yeah, your mom's dead. I don't get it.
Well I had a mom and I do get it.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
So yeah, yeah, now he's not speaking to me and
I'm questioning everything. Maybe I was being a bit too
old fashioned. Maybe I'm holding on too tightly, but it
really hurts me that he forgot about his own mother
on Mother's Day?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Am I wrong? All right? Judge kick, I have some thoughts,
but it's it's your thing. What say you? You're the judge, Yeah,
your honor. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
She was definitely wrong, so wrong for sending that text message,
like you, any credibility that you had before the text
is out the window because the wife did not call
you and say, you know, he can't come see you.
She didn't even tell your son he couldn't come see you.
She just said she would like a quiet day at home.
Now he decided not to attend the mother's day lunch

(20:34):
or whatever, so you could have taken that up with him,
But to text her that was so out of a line. Ooh,
I think that was out of line. And I think
you crossed the line by doing that. And I was
with you before that text. Honestly, I was like, Hey,
you know you are his mom, and it is okay
to want to see your kids. And no, no, it is.
It's okay to want to see your want to see
your kids. You're right to feel like, oh man, you

(20:55):
can come by, or you know, at least bring the grandkids.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
But after you sent that text, girl, I have no sympathy.
I think if you live in the same town as
your mom and you're married and your wife in this
example is a mom, I think you could celebrate both, right,
That's what I'm saying. I think breakfast could be about
your wife and kids and she's a mom and you're
you know you have obviously you have to celebrate her,
she's the mother of your children. But I don't know

(21:20):
why that would prevent you then from later in the
day stopping might have seen your ma. I wish I
were in the same city as my mom yesterday, so
I could have driven over there and said hi. And
if I were married with kids, I would have figured
out a way because I want I know it's not
their mom, but I would probably want my kids to
honor their grandmother too, So there's a way to do both.
I don't think it has to be one or the other. Now,

(21:40):
the text message was out of bound, That's what I'm saying. Like,
once she sent that text, girl, you are wrong. You're wrong.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
But Paulina, I hear you over at your wife. I'm
a wife, so.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Let me hear what.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
All right, So I think it's time for mom to
put her blub away and it's time to stop breastfeeding
her grown song. That's my theory. And I know FROMI
to come for me, and that's okay. I only say
that because at the end of the day, you guys
know how I feel.

Speaker 10 (22:07):
Like.

Speaker 8 (22:07):
This man is now married and he's got a family
of his own. Okay, so he can't so he could
see his mother. But if your wife says, hey, I
just want to do breakfast in bed and chill and
do our own thing, I think it's okay to start
your own traditions.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
And I stand by that. I do.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
Now, if you want to go and see your mother
later in the evening or whatever, that's your own thing.
But we don't have to do like a who ha parade,
where like now we're going to go to brunch and
dinner and like.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Why is mom too high? My mom's who? I mean,
why is my mom's who hauba? Like put him away?

Speaker 8 (22:41):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I'm always having to say that, but.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
She's acting like it might be because like, oh, yeah,
I think you can do both.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah saying that.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
But if your wife says, hey, I don't want to
do all these things of going out and brunching and
lunching and dinner, that's okay because it is it is
her day too. She's a mother, right, that's the mother
of your children. I think that's okay to have your
own editions if she doesn't want to. And I don't
think grandma can get mad at that. I did a
brunch at my house yesterday and I invited my mother
and my mother in law. But that's the kind of
wife mother I am where I want to celebrate with

(23:10):
them in my home. That's what I wanted to do it.
I didn't want to go out. I didn't want to
do anything after at two o'clock, after a lot of champagne,
everybody was out the door, and that's what we did.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And that was okay, But that was because that's what
I wanted. My husband respected that. I think you got
a way to incorporate I think you got to find
a way to incorporate both, because I mean, it's hard
to get into the game of who's more important. Yes,
that's your wife, but that's a different name, that the
relationship is different. You don't get to ignore. I wouldn't
get to ignore my wife, who's the mother of my

(23:39):
children on Mother's Day by any means. But I also
don't get to ignore my mom either. Now, again, the
text message was out of bounce, but she was mad,
and I'm not justifying she needs to apologize for that.
She was mad because she felt like she was being
prevented access to her son. So maybe it's not a
breakfast or a lunch the way that she's used to.
But I mean again, and if we're in the same city,

(24:01):
I can drive across town and I can give my
mom flowers or a Mother's Day card. I don't need
to I don't need to be attached to you simply
because you're my wife.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
That's not fair either, And I do agree with that
because I think, you know, like you said, you don't
have that where you can just you know, go to
your mom's house and drive across the expressway or whatever.
My mom's five minutes away. So I do come from
a place of privilege, right. You know, my mom is
very close to me physically and emotionally, and I understand that.
But I do think, like, if your wife is asking
for something a little more chill, a little more like, hey,

(24:29):
let's do our own things.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
There are new traditions. I don't think it's it's bad
to respect that. Am I wrong?

Speaker 8 (24:35):
If that's what your wife wants to do, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think, yeah, that would be. I would feel crazy
like asking that of my son. Now, he is a
grown man. You pointed this out and it can make
his own decisions. So if Europists take it out on him,
I just as like the spouse would never ask you
to not see your mom on Mother's Day.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I have a lot of respect for that situation.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
But I think you could do breakfast in bed and
then if she's cool with being a lo own, she
doesn't want to go for a little while, you can
go over to your mom's. But I don't think I'm
looking at her crazy for asking that.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Honestly, I'm not cool.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm fine with new traditions, and we've talked about this
over the years on the show, but I'm not fine
with new traditions that alienate family. I don't like that.
I mean, if you want to do your own thing,
you know, on a holiday, that's fine, But I don't
know why that has to exclude everybody else, because I
don't think you would like it very much if you
were excluded because you were married, Like what if what

(25:30):
I don't know. What if the rest of the family
is like, oh, well, we didn't necessarily want, you know,
kids around or whatever. So you guys do your own
it seems to be, well, we have our own traditions
and we're doing our own thing, and that's separate from
this family. But then when they want to be incorporated
in the mass group, then it's it's like, I don't think.
I don't think it's a an a la carte kind

(25:51):
of thing.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Maybe you can choose your saying, like when I think.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, and if that requires a little bit of effort then,
which means we have to split the day up, or
which means that you know, and I get that could
be hard when it comes to like Christmas, and maybe
one person's famili's here, one person's family's there, Well, then
we probably have to rotate or something like that. I
just I don't know. Family is so important to me,
and I don't like the idea, well that all of
a sudden, your traditions become more important than mine. They

(26:15):
might be, we might have to adjust them, but I
mean to say, like, no, you have to stay here
all day, you can't go see your mom. Yeah, yes,
that's all.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I don't know how much time we have left with mom.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
But also once she sent that text, I was out
because you can't talk about somebody's dead mom like that,
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I think when families grow, it certainly becomes more complicated
and more work, But I think it's worth it. I
think you have to do the work, yes, and you
have to make compromises too. Hey, Clarissa, Yeah, I think
Paulina has hi.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I think Paulina has it all right, Like she said
all the right words exactly what I was thinking. Like
it's just inappropriate. The text is way out of line.
But also it's really important, you know, as a mother
to be recognized, whether the mom, mother in law, or
even herself. You know, she wanted the opportunity to rest.
You know, we don't know if she was to stay
home mom, and that's hard being a staying a home

(27:09):
mom is harder, or she does both working again to
say home mom in the evenings or whatever the case is.
You know, to ask for a little bit of time
to chill out is really not that hard of a
concept to understand. And you know, if the mom wanted
an opportunity to see her son, you know, try to
the son it was up to the sun and say,
you know what, my wife wants to do this. But

(27:29):
if she's okay with it for dessert, I'll bring dessert
or I'll stop by it. You know, we can go
for a coffee ruck or whatever the case is, you know,
even if it is up to an hour.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
But to bring up with the seas mother on my
way to handle that at all.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
So I think you guys are all saying the right thing.
You know, all together, boundaries are super important, and unfortunately
the mother crossed this one and it's going to be
hard for her to kind of bring herself back into
a circle of trusty essentially with the mom who is
just trying to rest out.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, that's going to be a hard one to walk back.
I agree, Clarissa. Thanks, you have a good day.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Thank you to you guys.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ah, Debbie, Hi Debbie, good morning, Ybbie.

Speaker 10 (28:13):
I'm not saying on you. Yeah, oh my god, tell
me why, I'm you tell me why? Absolutely ridiculous. The
whole thing started with a twenty year tradition. You have
twenty years where you have your children. I have two,
and I didn't even see both of my kids yesterday.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
And it is hurtful.

Speaker 10 (28:30):
Oh see both of your children.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
But having said that, if I had a tradition which
we do on certain you know, holidays, it's my children.
Then said well now my daughter, you know she has
a child. If she said, well, now we have another tradition.
I would have been like, but for the last twenty years,
you've given me this and now you're going to take
it away from me on Mother's Day. No, you have

(28:53):
to rearrange your schedule. You have to say, okay, my
wife wants you know, breakfast and bad and quiet. They great,
I've got this off plans. Oh, you'll have breakfast in bed.
I will get the kids ready. We're going to go
to my mom's and do what I have done for
the last twenty years, and then we're going to come
back and I'm going to bring you something back for dinner.
D You know, it's really simple. Everybody could have been happy,

(29:16):
but instead it turned into.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
This horrible thing.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
And shame on the mom too for sending that terrible
text message episode.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Shame on everybody.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
Yeah, everybody, you have a new baby and you're gonna
want to do special things for your family, and you're
gonna still to, like you said, traditions.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
Of your very own.

Speaker 10 (29:34):
But that doesn't mean you have to interfere with other people.
And I'm not.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
I am a Yeah, i am an amazing daughter in
law and I will say that on this radio a
lot and proud, and I'm an amazing mother. Now, when
my daughter is older and when she becomes a mother,
I'm gonna let her pick what she wants to do
with her family, because she's going to experience her mother's
day when her time comes. I'm going to be old
and wrinkly and sitting somewhere at home at a nursing home,
and if they want to come see me, I'll.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Be so happy. And if they don't, I can't be
upset with that. I think you could. I think you
have a right to be upset if they don't make
any effort to see you on Mother's Day. I think
that is a fair The other day, it may not
be in the form that you want. It may not,
you know, to Debbie's point, or I guess, sort of
counter to your point, the tradition that you have known
before another family was created might have to adjust. But

(30:18):
for her, for her to be like, for her to
be like, no, you're staying here all day because I
don't want to do anything that shouldn't preclude him from
driving across town to see his mom and give her something. Now,
Mom may not get her way, wife not may not
get her way. It's going to have to be compromised.
But you might have to put the effort in because
that's what family is about. In my opinion.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to be clear.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Those you like, I'm okay with like gues going to
see your mom at night or whatever, going to see
your mom later in the day.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
That's nothing wrong with that. But I do think your
wife in a sense comes first. She has to like
that is not your new family.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
Of course your wife comes first at some single day.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
But can your.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
Mother have Mother's Day blunch like she has for the
life you give.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Him that I think? Do you think there's compromise here?
I definitely think compromise. Yeah, Debbie, thank you so much
for colling have a good day. But that really is
that's the bigger question.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
Like when it comes to Mother's Day, is it your
wife or your mother? Because it's like Mother's Day is
you should honor the woman who gave birth to you,
But then you also have this woman who has giving
you children.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And it's like on that day who really comes first?
For a man? I feel sorry for a man who have.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
To decide this, But like, seriously, who is the who
do you celebrate the most?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think mom has to acquiesce to the wife and
the you know, the mother of the kids. But I
don't think that means that mom gets ignored, yeah, or
doesn't get a visit or do you and you know what,
that might suck, that might be a little extra work,
But I don't I get new traditions. But I also
think it's like, but you want to be part of
this family. Oftentimes you you know mother, mother maybe does

(31:51):
a lot of babysitting, mother does, Maybe he's contributing financially.
Mother is you know, it's a great grandmother. Yeah, So
we need to instill that and the kids too. Unfortunately,
I think sometimes people just they just draw the line
and pick and choose which parts of family they want
and which parts of family they don't want, and that's
that's very damaging. I think. I think it's just gonna

(32:12):
be more work, but I think you have to do both.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
It's more work, it's good. It's gonna be rewarding though.
It's gonna be rewarding because, like you said, then your
children can see. You know, you're gonna celebrate your mother,
and you can celebrate grandma if Grandma still with us. Like,
those are okay and everything is okay with that. Those
are great traditions to have. My whole point was that
the mom just has to come first, and if she
doesn't want to come to brunch, lunch, dinner, whatever, she
can stay back.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And that should be okay for everybody. Everybody should respect that,
all right. I wish we could to all these phone calls.
We can't. The fun fact is next day.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
Here more Freadshew Next the Fread Show is on Friend's
Fun Fact.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Fread Fun learn so much? Guys, did you know that
bees the bees? I haven't seen that lady on TikTok
in a while. Another day Saving the bees. Bees can
get drunk unfermented tree sap. Same same same on the

(33:12):
way in here. I tap a tree and uh in
Grant Park and I That's why this show sometimes is
a little cool cool. It doesn't go well for those
who partake, though. Bees that get drunk unfermented tree sap
are often attacked by the sober bees and denied access
to the hive. Like you drunk, get out of here.
Can't be drunken here. Same thing happens. You know, I

(33:36):
show up with a little bee sap. Everyone's like I
can see it. I can smell that bee sap on
your breath. Fread go home, like I want more be sap.
They're like, no, you can't. More Fread Show Next up

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