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August 5, 2025 14 mins

Another new dating trend involves having your date build your new furniture!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But this isn't necessarily a dating trend per se. But
some gen Z women, especially in cities like New York
and Seattle, are repurposing the dating app hinge to help
in building furniture or completing home projects.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's as smart, not as Bob the builder trend.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
They update their profiles with prompts that appeal to handymen.
I don't know that you have to be by profession.
You can just be a handy man. These interactions often
turned into informal first dates. Matches come over to assemble
bed frames, hangart, and haul plants. So you're inviting a
stranger into your home though, like you're inviting okay, so
do you have a.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hammer and a drill? Come on over?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, So you get your bed frame assembled, but then
you also get tied to it and.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Held captive for you know bears.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, I would at least have to go on
two dates with this man, so I could suck him
out on the first one and be like, are you terrifying?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That means you have to go on dates, which means
it's just standard dating app stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, but like I would have to force myself if
I didn't like him, if I just needed something hung
up on my wall.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
But this is a great idea.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
One woman shared several matches that helped her redecorate her apartment,
including buying plants and hanging the core and in one
case became her boyfriend. The other two, I guess just
got to hang to coren buy plants and didn't get
anything another Seattle well. Another Seattle user said that building
a bed together felt like getting the boyfriend experience on
the first date.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
If I come over to your I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
If I come to your home on the first date
and I build the bed, then we're using the bed.
We're getting in the bed. I'm not building your bed
so that I can leave so that some other guy
can bring you a plant and then get in the
bed that I built. No experts say that they see
the trend as a shift toward practical, low pressure dating,
away for men to impress through action rather than words,

(01:43):
but they caution about safety and consent, especially if the
DIY hangouts are recorded or shared online. Yeah, I don't
know about this. I think that's risky. I think it's risky.
Let's have a stranger over to the house for free labor,
and then how many guys, and not that it's fair.
Like if you go over to someone tells you help
them put something together, you're not owing anything. But how
many guys are gonna be like, but I brought you

(02:05):
plant and assembled your you know, your dining room table,
and now.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You want me to leave?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Like I feel like that is going to result in
some disgruntled people.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
But isn't there like an app where you could just
have someone come over and do some random stuff for you.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's called Grinder.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I'm familiar, no, but like actually, like I don't know
how to hang anything, but like it's like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Test grab it some.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Tech, some tech, but you gotta pay for that, yeah,
I mean sometimes it's expensive. And one time I hired
one of those people for a dresser. I was about
to say where it was from and do.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
You remember this?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
And he was there for eight hours, sweating and like
kept telling me he knew what he was doing and
he messed it up and then I had to get
a whole new one ship from the company and who
do you what do you do with someone of your apartment?
For eight hours? I was like, do you want me
to put on a movie?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was so awkward, Like at what.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Point do you say, I don't think you know what
you're doing. You should just go home now.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
To tell you true Kalin fashion, there was no point,
Like I would never tell anyone.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I don't think you know what you're doing. So we
just hung out all day, all day.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh, it just seems risky. I don't think it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I think I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks to
have somebody put my stuff together than have a stranger
come over and then whatever happens happens as far as because.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, again, no one owes you anything. But if
you come over and get free labor and then say okay, thanks,
you can leave now. I feel like people you know,
you're gonna have a percentage of people that are gonna
be frustrated by that. Wait a minute, So I wouldn't
hire a handy. I mean I thought it was here
because we were gonna, you know, cuddle or something.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
We were gonna drink wine, watch a movie. What do
you mean I built the couch? Can I sit on it?
I think this is risky.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think this is he built your couch? Oh who
came over? Who did you go I had some ladies
come over from Engine. They no, you know the people,
the people bel couch.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I bought a couch that was FedEx to my home
in twenty boxes. I've never in my life, I've never
seen this happen before. It was kind of like a
It wasn't cheap either, but it was kind of a
restoration hard where a cloud couch dupe, kind of like
it was an ad online.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Honestly, I don't know where it came.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's always gets you, which is great.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It doesn't seem like it'd be in your character to
be gotten by an ad.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
But I researched it though, Like I looked up because
the cloud couch it's very expensive. It's very expensive, and
it looks frumpled immediately like it immediately it looks like
somebody a child ran all over it fifty thousand times,
which drive me crazy. They're so comfortable. If you don't know,
they're like they're cloud couch. It feels like you're you
know what, right, But I don't know. They look frumpled.

(04:47):
A couple of my friends have them, and I'm like,
I don't know, is this how long have.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
You had this? Like this is a new couch bless
you on your birthday.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I know you keep sneezing, damn it. Everyone knows you're
not supposed to do that. So then they had I
looked it up and it's like reputable. I don't know,
magazines that were like, well there's this one and this one,
this one that's like it but has these whatever. So
I ordered one and I thought it was a couch
You're going to show up in a big box couch
box or someone's going to carry it in, you know,
like you have furniture delivered, and instead it shows they're like, well,

(05:18):
it's coming on a it's coming on a pallette and
there are twenty boxes and we delivered to your house
and then somebody comes right after and then brings all
the boxes up and assembles it. It's like modular, so
like each box is part of it and then they
all connect and it's very smart how it all works.
But no, I wasn't gonna deal with that videos. I'm
like deep hoofing, or like I love how exciting.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, So they delivered it somewhere and then someone brought
it over and then but otherwise it's like if you
if you lived in a regular house. It would just
a palette which is show up in your driveway, and
then somebody would come over and unpack it and put
it together. You can do it yourself, but come on,
who are you talking to? Like I would, I'd be
that person that was at your house for eight hours
and I would give up. At some point I would

(06:02):
just give up and leave.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
That would have been nice of him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So No, Then they came over and they put it together,
and I wasn't present for this. I had I was
out of town. So I came back and there was
a couch in my living room. It was very nice.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Now that's success, Like I do want to come home
and there's a couch.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm going to be like you and grow up.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think we could make that happen.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think Shane could be at the house when we
could have a couch delivered and then when you come
over it No, but some people are very handy. My
dad used to be a very handy guy. I don't
have it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I wasn't given that Gene's I don't know the right
end of the screwdriver to use. I was given some
gifts and that wasn't one of them. M but I
wouldn't leave you in Like if I were dating someone
and they were like, hey, my plumbing is messed up
and I didn't know what to do. I would I
would get it fixed. I would have I would have
it handled.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But I'm not.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I don't think you want me getting the crowbar out
or whatever you do with it. Plumbers are listening now, going, well,
that might be part of the problem. Wrenches, you know,
I don't know. It looks like a crowbar. This is
what I mean, this.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Is what I need. You don't you don't want, you
don't want me to do it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And by the time I go and buy all this
stuff and then come home and do it, I could
have just paid someone who already had this stuff to
do it, because also don't have the tools and all that.
I just I know, I know what my gifts are
and that's not one of them. But does it matter
to you if I do it or if I get
it done? Like if let's say something broken in your
house and it's like, what's wrong with this? And and

(07:27):
so I maybe I try and look at it and
I'm like, I don't know, and then I get someone
to have it fixed, and it's fixed.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Does it matter to you?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
So it does not matter to me, but it really
matters to both my dad's my dad and my stepdad.
They have a real problem when I'm dating people that
can't just do it.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I don't know why. It's gonna be like a generational thing.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I'm like, I don't care. Just get it done. I
mean I get it.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like most dudes now are, like, you know, starting podcasts
instead of learning.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Wire up your podcast problem? You up? Man?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I get your road cast, are all set up? I
get I'll get deep in the settings on that.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
For you. It's a beautiful man that can do both.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like Fred period, Well, you can get it done by
someone else.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm not going to change your oil like I'm just not.
I have done it before, believe it or not. I
have done it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Really, I've changed a little in a car and an airplane. Honestly, wait,
we didn't post this full conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Let me well, and actually it is a surprise to you,
but all of our conversations to get close to me.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Just so you know, I have a podcast. I started
a podcast call The Fresh Show. We've been doing it
for fifteen years. You welcome. I'm going to hear you.
I know it's your birthday, but you weren't born today?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Were you on social as its own clip?

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, yeah, well here's a question.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Okay, Fred Show on demand on the free iHeart Radio.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
App get to used to eight three five, But they
didn't answer my questions.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Does it matter? I mean, yes, I'm sure it's hot.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
If a guy committed you let me fix that and
goes and grabs the tools and fixes it. But ultimately,
is it fine if it just gets fixed?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Please? Just get it fixed. Please.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
My second thing is like, let's say we're let's say
we're on our way somewhere, we're driving somewhere in the car,
and maybe it's hot or we're dressed to go out,
and then there's a flat tire your car in my car.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
But we're together.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Now. I know how to fix a flat tire. I
know how to change a tire, okay, but maybe but
I also have triple A Okay, so I could or
I have roadside assistance on the thing, which is it
unsexy if I'm like, I really don't feel like in
one hundred degree heat changing the tire right now? So
I'm going to call the roadside assistant. They're going to

(09:40):
come and do it. Does that make is that unattractive
to you? I think a lot of people would say yes.
I think that there are women who want me to
get out and be sweaty and disgusting and change the tire,
which I can do. I don't want to do it.
I'm not gonna make you do it, but I'm gonna
get it done. But maybe I don't want to do
it because I don't know. Then we have to go home,
I have take a shower, start over you. I'm a

(10:00):
sweaty guy.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
What does it? Does that matter to you?

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Like?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Would you find that unattractive if I called roadside assistance?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It depends on how long we have to wait.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Sometimes roadside assistance comes right away, and sometimes they play
all day. If they're going to take hours and you
can fix it, get out there and fix it.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
But then I'm all dirty and money and we show
up to your event and I'm gross.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
And oh yeah, and you don't care if I don't
care that I have to show up to looking like that.
Well approach, But we would go back home and make
change and.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Just be late.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
It's a great story though, Man, you got a little
dirt on your should The man I had to get
out there and.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Change it all later.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
And how awesome does that sound?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So exactly? Man that will never ask anyone else to
do anything. It's all him.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'm going through the I mean I knew I think
I knew the answer. I think I knew that that
people would whatever reason they want to see the tire.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Bad, don't you to be honest?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, I think for some people, and if you believe
in maybe it's not gender rules. I don't mean to
make it like that, but is it like a protector thing?
It's like, yeah, you know, he can handle it, and
when he handles it himself, then there's more confidence in
I don't know other things that could happen then if
the guy has to call someone to do it. Is

(11:19):
that kind of what it is? But that's kind of
old school, isn't it like that? You know, it's kind
of an old school mentality, Isn't that? Is that kind
of the same as like I expect you to make
me dinner kind of stuff like I would never. I
would never if I did it a woman who couldn't
cook and clean, I wouldn't have any you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like, let's be But I'm just saying I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I guess I wouldn't necessarily judge you if you if
you don't do girly stuff. So if I don't do
manly stuff like go shoot deer and and you know,
change oil and filters and stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I don't know, picturing all of us, I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Someone Mike said, how do you pre trip your airplane?
What does the pre trip mean? If you can't put
together a couch? You mean pre flight? You mean like
walk around and make sure everything's falling off of the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Like I can fly a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I can do that, But I can I can fly
a flying an airplane and putting a couch together at
two different skills, thankfully.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mean, if I walk around the airplane and look
at all the things before I fly it and something's
really broken on it, I'm not even I don't fix it.
I get a mechanic to fix it, right, Like I, oh, yeah,
I get an aircraft mechanic to come do it. So yeah,
I don't know. So I don't think those are the
same thing. Not attractive let me see here. Terrace is no,
not unattractive at all, especially if you're on your way

(12:36):
to an event. You don't want your person to be sweating. Plus,
I'm the type of person that doesn't want to put
anybody out. I would rather you be comfortable, and we
call triple A. I still think I would be judged.
I really do. I love how hard Jason rides for
mechanic mic I have no choice. Now here's the question.
He works on stuff. You know he has the gay Ruge.

(12:57):
Of course he owns the gay Rush. But then when
he comes home, does he does he fix all the
stuff at the house too? Or is he one of
those people that's like my dad is a is a
mechanical engineer, so he works all day. He has zero
interest in coming home and fixing the plumbing.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Oh no.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Like I was talking about this with Kaitlin last week,
It's like there's certain types of people that are like
I came from a family that was very much like
if something needed to be done, we just have to
figure out a way to pay someone to come and
do it, whereas Mike's family and Mike you would never
pay anyone to do anything like if it's something handy,
You got to figure it out and do it yourself.
His dad just replaced a gas line at our house, Like,

(13:31):
how is that even?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
How do you even do that?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Like I don't even know, you know, like digging the
ground up to fight? Like how do you even start that?
Without Colin Julie, you know what I mean? Like, I
don't understand. But he's always like always, he would never
ever let anyone else do anything handy around the house.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Ever, it'd be very satisfying if I could do more stuff.
I just I don't know. And the other thing is
I'm a low CD, so then I obsess over in
the job that I did, and then I wind up
doing it. Whint's it becoming more difficult than it needed
to be. I should have just hired someone. I tried
to paint something the other day, which was fine, but
then I had another wall to paint. I'm like, I
gotta go buy more paint and more brushes and roller things.

(14:07):
And by the time I did that, I just paid
the guy and he came over.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
He did it.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
It took a quarter of the time and he takes
everything away and it's like we're done.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Like I can't.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm not good at much okay, and I can accept
that I can live with that.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Pay for it man, pay for convenience. Bro Yes, life
is hard enough. Life is hard enough.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I wish, would you guys In the very pointy birthday ads,

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