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Speaker 1 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
So this is from a nineteen year old female. My
friend downloaded dating apps like Tinder and Hinge for the
first time about a week ago for reference. She's the
type that always says she wants a boyfriend, wants to
do couples things, feels lonely, win single, et cetera. She's also,
in my opinion, at least very normal and average looks wise,
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not ugly, not super hot, just all right. Since then,
she's been complaining to me that almost all of the
men are ugly, short, etc. And that she doesn't match
with anybody who is hot. I asked to see the
people that she was calling ugly, and she showed me
her likes, and it showed people that were particularly sort
of within her league, also moderately attractive people, moderately attractive men.
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I told her that these guys were all in her
league and that she should give some of them a chance,
since she always complains about wanting to be in a relationship.
She denied that she's in the same league as them,
and said that she's much more attractive than they are.
I pointed out in her own words, she doesn't match
with any of the guys that she does find attractive,
so she's not in their league. She said, I'm an
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a hole, am I? So if your friend comes to
you and says, all these ugly guys only ugly guys
want to go out with me, but you find those
ugly guys to be just normal looking guys, and you
find your friend to be normal looking. This sounds terrible,
but like, honestly, like if you have a friend who
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has unreasonable expectations for and you can dream for whatever
you want. But let's face it, I mean, maybe the
guy that she envisions may not be interested in her. Maybe,
but let's and again this sounds bad, but like, let's
just be realistic, right that that maybe she wants to
go out with a supermodel, and and maybe there's a
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supermodel that would want to go out with her, but
maybe per capita, she would have a better chance going
out with men who are a little bit more less supermodelly.
Is that a fair thing to say to your friend
eight five five five three five or is that an
awful thing to say because you're kind of helping that.
I mean, you don't have to call your friend ugly,
But you could say, like, hey, you say you want
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all these here's another way you could say that, I
think is nicer. You say you want all these things, right,
you want companionship, you want you want a partner, you
feel lonely, you want to do couples things. Maybe your
expectations are a little high, you know, maybe the things
that you're looking for a little high. Maybe, But you
also want the hottest guy on the internet. So maybe
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maybe we should be looking a little more internally, or
maybe maybe our expectations and goals are a little beyond
what's reasonable because we all know the person who will
only date one kind of person, and then that really
limits your opportunity to get the other things that you want. Right,
So maybe and then also I'm trying to make this
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sound good, but basically she says her friend is average
and should find average people, right, which maybe is fair advice.
But we all have probably dated that the person that
looks the way we want them to, but they don't
have any of the other qualities that we want. Maybe
they're not even good people. We've probably also dated ugly
people who aren't good people, or ugly people who are
very great people and provide all the other things. They
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love you and they're they're loyal to you and whatever.
So I guess my thing is if you're only looking
for people who you think are super hot, then you're
probably missing a lot of other things.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh, yes, that's the way you say it, right.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well, I mean I would just say it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You would, So you would you would say to your
friend Kiki, you, I'm sorry, but you your expectations are
too high and maybe you should bring it back to work.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I would say, girl.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
So we all have strengths and weak strengths and weaknesses, Okay, strengths,
and I would say, you know, you are really strong
in the friendship department.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
In the personality, Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Damn, if anybody calls me, if anyone says strengths and weaknesses,
I'm very strong in the personality department.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You knock it out the park when it comes to personality.
But on the looks and you we could do a
little work. And so I think you should give another
type of guy a chance.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And you know, because or what type of guy is down?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You're setting your friends up for failure, Like you're setting
a friend up and fel you're telling her that she
can go get a hot guy and you know she's ugly, Like,
come on.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Be for real. You don't think any of your friends
are ugly? Do you?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But I don't, Okay, I don't think my friends know
what they should go for. You and I know what
I can go for, you know, like you could have
anything you want. I'm sure, Kaylee.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We don't want to get real that we've all probably
watched our friends struggle with dating and they and they
gravitate towards something that isn't necessarily the most productive, whether
it's toxic guys or girls, or whether it's rich guys
or guys with a boat, which seems to be a
themale dating or or I don't know, maybe they're just
they're not prioritizing the right qualities. So maybe that's how
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you say it. It's like, look, you're really focused on looks,
and that's fair. Nobody wants to be with an ugly person.
Maybe you don't even make it about their appearance. You
just say like, but maybe we should start looking into
other qualities because there's more out there.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You can never tell your friend that they are not attractive.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
You cannot say that to someone you love in any circle.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's what I mean, though, But I'm saying, so fus
focus on the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
La, Hi, La, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I love all of you?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
First off, love you.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
What do you tell your friend If your friend is
really focused on looks and they're not necessarily buh of
the same caliber of what they're seeking?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
This is crazy because I mean, I like I text
that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, So
it depends on what you're looking for in beauty. When
you say beauty, do you want a beautiful heart? Do
you want a kind heart? Do you want someone to
takes care of you? Or do you want to six
foot seven fine something? Something that is full of the
bad words. So it's just the chance and it will
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be hard to tell a friends. But if you're a
real friend, I would be super honest. I would be
super honest. I want to tell her that she was ugly,
you know, but I would be like you, guys are compatible.
Look at him, look at you. It just depends on
what you're looking at him.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm looking at you with all due respect. Look at
him and look at you.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Is not jes.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's not the approach. Look at him, look at you.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I think that Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Hey, we're just whiteboarding here and no bad ideas. Thank you, La,
have a good day. I love you, call anytime. Hey, Mandy,
how you doing, Mandy? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Look at him and look at you.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Make a cute baby.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That's how you got to say it, because you know
they say ugly people make.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You baby, Jesus, make a great baby.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Two negatives pitive. Don't you remember that?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Hey going, what do you say to your friend who's
shooting for the stars from a dating perspective and not
hitting Because maybe they should be a little bit more reasonable, realistic.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Well, there's a way that you can say things to
your friend without being a jerk. So like when you're
at work you want someone to do something for you,
instead of saying, you know, ordering them around to do it,
say you know, can you help me? Or you know,
when you're talking to your friend, you tell your friend, hey,
you know, maybe this guy doesn't look that good, but
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you know, maybe there is something about him.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Okay, so you're saying point out, you know, sort of
like nothing to see here, like kind of point out. Uh,
just find the positives and elevate them.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yeah, but when you're talking to your friend and you
know your friend maybe not be in the same link
as the hot people, then maybe tell them, I don't know,
there's many fish in the sea.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh god, getting better, just lying for you. Oh boy. Hey,
there's a site for people that look like you and
it's not this one.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's called normal people dot com.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Hey, there's just a way to say it without being
mean about.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It, Mandy, with all the expect I don't think it's
any of the ways of person. Yeah, yeah, thank you,
you have a great day, all right. I know it's
a tough one, right, because you want your friend to
find what they're looking for. But if they're only obsessed
with appearance, and then maybe that's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Hey, Roberta, Roberta, how are you doing? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I'm good?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
So I think that's a friend that needs to go
outside on such the grass. Yeah, lower expectations. I wouldn't
be a good friend if I would like to my
friend like that, because look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Like you look questionable too, so.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Understanding now you look, I have found people.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I gotta be honest with you. You look questionable too.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You look what you've done to these Roberta.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Can I ask you here, Roberta, do you have any friends?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You actually have friends? I mean I approached him and
I told him, I'm like, look, I am brutally honest.
I don't sit here, and I don't beat it around
the bush.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Don't beat it around the bush.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Girl, Never beat it around the bush, Roberta. Just so
you never get yourself in trouble with any of the
of the authorities. It's beat around the bush. No one's
beating anything. But anyway, I'm just trying to help you.
I'm being really honestly with you.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Yeah, let me give you an example. Okay, me, I'm
a heavier, said girl, but I have a really pretty face.
My husband, he is not the type.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
He was very vain.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
He likes skinny girls, you know, with colored eyes and
all this other stuff, and I am the complete opposite.
We had been married for almost seven years and we
met on the apps.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So no, you know what, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's actually I think that's an excellent example. Right, Maybe
you're so hyper focused on body type and and maybe
if you were a little bit you know, we're entitled
to like what we like, but maybe if we were
a little less focused on just appearance, because again, we've
all dated people who look great and aren't great. Right,
So there's got to be a way to say this
without being like, no, no, no, you need you could
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never be with someone like that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, that's not how to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Maybe it's just, hey, you're looking for a lot of
different qualities, but we're only focused on one.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So let's start looking.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Maybe we start looking a little bit less and a
little bit less at how they look, and a little
bit more the kind of people they are, and then
maybe you'll you know, we can cure the loneliness thing
and the companionship thing and the other aspects of a relationship, right.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, and I would also work commend the therapist.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So so yeah, so you ain't it, you ain't hitting,
and you're kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You should probably see a thing, ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I know, I know you're trying to help, but man,
ice friend.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
You're the least coc in the desert, Like, come on,
the last coca in the desert.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What are these phrases coming?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What you're saying, Robert Roberta, you take a you take
your pretty face and go beat it around the bush.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Are I love you? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That was a good point though, yes, no, because I
have friends when they were dating.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Most of my friends are married now.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But it was like, oh, it's gotta be oh, they
gotta be tall, skinny brunette. And I'm going you've dated
five of them and then they either weren't nice, or
they weren't interesting to you or you to.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Them, or you're so focused on the type.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And so maybe like we brought in our horizons a
little beyond that, like what if it's a what if
she's not tall and skinny and was in Sports Illustrated
or something.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's different than Friend. You're ugly, Well, that's what we've
been working on. More Friend Show next,