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May 8, 2025 19 mins

Black smoke filled the air, meaning no new pope just yet. Newark Airport had hundreds of flights canceled over the past couple of days due to technical issues. Mark Zuckerberg offers advice for people who are feeling lonely. A man was attacked by a bison at Yellowstone!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Bread's show is on Fred's Biggest Stories of the Day.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And so the man who who hosted our little panel,
you know for Canadian radio people. His name is Nick,
famous radio man Nick British guy. I guess he's very
famous radio manager in the UK. And he was very
very nice about it. He listened to the show like
line for line for a week. Yes, he did a
deep dive on this show that like it was it's weird,

(00:26):
Like it was weird to sit there and then have
him go he listed out everything we talked about in
one day and then like put a slide up and
asked us to basically like defend our dissertation for a PhD.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I'll be honest. When someone goes.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like minute for a minute on this show and then
writes down everything that we talked about, we look like
we're schizophrenic or something.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Like you talked about.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ozembic and this and that and passing a blunt and
this and that all in one.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Day, did you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, yeah, But he was very nice, except he told
me he's going to send me an email about the
things that like he wasn't going to put in the
prison like notes. So I'm waiting It's like I'm waiting
for my report card to land in the mailbox. I
even worked for this guy, and I'm waiting. I'm waiting
to hear about the things he didn't like, which makes
me very nervous. Yes, oh yeah, terrified. Oh no, it says,

(01:14):
oh kick you first line. I just got the email,
and says Kiki, No, I love Nick. No, Nick's a
nice guy. But yeah, that's where we were yesterday. We
were in Canada with the boss Man, with Jimmy Jim
and he took us all over Canada too, well, Toronto.
He didn't take us all over Canada, took us all
over Toronto. Yes, yeah, we went. We went to all
of the places. This man, this man is one of

(01:36):
those travelers that like doesn't stop moving. No, he's one
of those people. It's like, have you seen this? Have
you seen that? Let's go ahead, yes, oh yeah, we
didn't stop moving. We landed and we were already the monument.
We landed on Lake Shore, and then we were at
a monument with our backs because we couldn't miss it.
We had to see it, you know. And then where

(01:56):
we go went to some other place, and then some
other places.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Went to our hotel.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We didn't go to our No, we did it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
We basically carry our bags all over the city and
then like at ten o'clock at night, after dinner it's
a Michelin star restaurant we had to go to. Then
it was like, okay, now you can go, you can
go to bed, which I appreciate because I'll be honest
with you, I've been to Toronto before, and in a
twenty hour trip I would have been with a speech involved,
I would have been most likely to go to the
hotel and go to bed, border room service, and it

(02:25):
would have been a waste of a trip. It would
have been, I will admit that. But like it was
a work trip, it was not a fun trip and
there was a work purpose, so I probably wouldn't have
been out doing shots at tequila in some neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But we did that. Anyway, I'm glad we did.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, he did.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He made it very fun well because we had to
find a highlighter colored drink for Kiki. As soon as
we found a drink that was the color of a highlighter,
then we had to stop and drink that because, as
you know, Kiki doesn't drink anything that's not it has
to be a color not found in nature, so right right, purple, bright.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Blue, anti freeze. Yeah, yeah, you can't tell the difference.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I couldn't tell if she was drinking anti freezer, if
it was like some form of green margarita.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
But it was a green margarita.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I guess the phone was dead for hours.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
So I was odan on the highlight of drinks and
chips and guaquaya.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I didn't know that your phone was dead.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
It was dead for hours, Like I was sitting there glitching, like,
oh no wonder.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You had nothing else to do and were out.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
So at one place, I asked the bartenders, like, can
you charge my phone? And he charged it, but his
charger had to be terrible because only had like six
percent when he gave it back. So then we go
to the next spot, and I'm like, it died again,
and so I'm just sitting here fighting for my life,
like trying to remain normal.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But yeah, I guess I didn't notice that you weren't
glued to your phone the whole time.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
No, that was that was very refreshing. I'm sure it was.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
We got we got untilted, Kiki, because you had nothing
else to do. You had to talk to us.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I had to wow.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, wow, I didn't even notice that.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So for the person who texted, you only do a
radio show five days a week and you couldn't come
up with new content?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We wait, that's what they were.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
They were in Canada on a work trip.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Sometimes people have to take days off, Yes they should
do you see.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Sometimes there are there are other obligations and it's very
rare a by the eire on vacation because it's a
holiday like Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
We tend not to work on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Dare you Well, if it's on a weekday, you still
get a show, because well why would we not?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah? Right, so no we do.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I wasn't here to push the broken buttons. I'm sorry
didn't work out, but I was glued to my phone.
I'm shocked that he didn't run out of battery because
I was looking for the pope updates and black smoke
above the Sistine Chapel on day one means we don't
have a new pope yet. Jason, can you go, just
go and for what once and for all you're the
only one that they'll all agree on.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, let me go rattle that room up a little
bit they need to be.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
They've been trying to get you to go that you're
the only one that would bring everyone together. Should have
been one round, me unanimous, period. I agree, I agree,
the conclave to select a new pope. And yesterday and
the day ended with only black smoke floating above the
Systeine Chapel, the cardinals locked away with no phones. Oh
my god, KYK, might never you could ever be a cardinal.
We'll keep voting with up to four rounds daily. If

(05:11):
no one wins after three days, they take a twenty
four hour break to think.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Since eighteen that's what it says.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Since eighteen thirty one, no conclave has lasted over four days.
White smoke and bells will signal a new pope, and
over thirty thousand people watched in Saint Peter's Square hoping
for news. Today will be the second day of the conclave.
If you're trying to go to New York, Newark specifically,
which is New Jersey, I guess there is a bit
of an issue, and when I tell you why, I

(05:38):
might concern you a little bit. The FAA said Wednesday
that it plans to upgrade the technology used to get
radar data to air traffic controllers directing planes to the
troubled New Jersey Airport, and improve staffing to alleviate problems
that have caused hundreds of flights to be canceled there.
At the same time, the agency plans to pursue a broader,
multi billion dollar plan that will be announced Thursday for

(05:58):
long overdue upgrades nation's air traffic control system. So it
turns out that we're using copper phone lines, I guess
to get information from radar to from one city to
the next city. The radar system air traffic controlers in Philadelphia,
let's use to direct planes in and out of the
Newark Airport went offline for at least thirty seconds on
April twenty eighth. That's a problem. Oh yes, I mean

(06:21):
what happened during the thirty seconds?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Right? The planes is up there willy nilly riding around circling.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I guess so. But it's because they don't use
fiber optic lines. They use copper phone lines, oh God,
to do this. And so they're they're going to update those,
they said, with some some sort of like new dial
up internet or something like that, get Wi Fi.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
So.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Anyway, and they're gonna do it for the rest of
the country.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
They decided to do this, it would be a good
idea to maybe not have like metal connection. I mean
the tin can with a string on each head plane's coming. Okay,
I mean it's crazy, but that's why that happen. Mark
Zuckerberg has some advice for people about well, if you
all have a lot of friends, or you lead a

(07:07):
therapist or something, even a lover, well, he's gonna tell
you how Listen.

Speaker 8 (07:11):
The average American, I think has I think it's fewer
than three friends, three people that they consider friends, and
the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think
it's like fifteen friends or something.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Right.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
I guess there's probably some point where you're like, all right,
I'm just too busy. I can't deal with more people.
But for the average person wants more connectivity connection than
they have. So, you know, there's a lot of questions
that people ask of stuff like Okay, is this going
to replace kind of in person connections or real life connections,

(07:46):
And my default is that the answer to that is
probably no.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think it it.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
You know, I think that there are all these things
that are better about kind of physical connections when you
can have them, but the reality is that people just
don't have the connection and they feel more alone a
lot of the time than they would like.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So in light of that, he's saying that we should
use AI friends, therapists, and even lovers. So hope that
would be his solution, which I mean, you know me,
my therapist is expensive, so I mean, who is this
AI therapist? And where's this information going? Have you tried
AI therapy?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Is it? Have you tried it?

Speaker 7 (08:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I stop it?

Speaker 6 (08:24):
What do you mean? It's the future?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Stop it? Yes, tell he what did you type in
your issue? Like where's my dad? And then it's like,
spit something back out at you.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah, I sent me a pinpoint of where he is.
He's no longer in the country.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh m okay, So how did it? I need you?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I need to You can't just say that and then
not explain like what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
A lot of people are doing this, especially the gens,
because yeah, therapy is expensive, or honestly, I think people
just don't really want to talk to a therapist.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
I don't agree with that. I love my therapist, but
then I.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Was like, let me give her a shot, So I
type into chat GPT, I say, hey, I'm feeling kind
of down today because of X y Z. Right, I
had to fight with my friend or me and my
husband aren't sing.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Eye to eye. That was my latest one.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
My husband and I like we didn't really see id
eye about something at home, and I was like, I'm
feelingly down about it. You know, we we I don't
what's the word. Like, we kind of react to each
other differently. Like me, I'm like in your face, like
talk about it right now, and he shuts down, you know, no,
like who me?

Speaker 9 (09:17):
No?

Speaker 6 (09:17):
My husband shuts down, he steps away.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
He's like that guy who does silent treatment in a
way like that all day but for a couple hours.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
And I can't do silent treatment for even five minutes.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
So I was like, how do I as somebody who's
the complete opposite, right, how do I kind of interact
with him?

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Like what should I do?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Like I'm very reactive, so how can I not be
reactive towards him?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
And she gave us some great advice.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I mean, first she spits up facts and then I
has she yeah, she said, she oh yeah, God's a
woman and Chatgypt is a woman.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Okay, God, So this.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Isn't like a sanction therapy.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You just Paullina, you just type this, you just type
it into chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, you have a conversation and they talk back. What
did she tell you to do?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
She told me, like, first of all, my feelings are
very valid, you know, and she's very fun.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
She understands my frustration.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Passionate.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Robot's very passionate. Oh, she's very compassionate. Frand I swear
to God, this is real. This is like, this is
not actual AI therapy. You just typed it in.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
And I'm talking to her, and I know people I've
seen on TikTok they will have chad like speak back.
I don't know how to use that function where I
could hear her talk. Yeah, no, like she'll speak to you.
I think there's like a function maybe a different app,
but I'm using the old school typing. And then she
tells me, you know, for for me, she goes, you know,
I do recommend maybe so things don't really escalate chuckle
escalation a lot. She's like, you know, maybe you should

(10:31):
remove yourself from the situation. I'll go for a walk.
You do not call his mother put the phone.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Down, Paulina, but he really knows you.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Yeah. Well that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So once you talk to Chad a lot, and I
do for every single thing.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
What on earth?

Speaker 6 (10:46):
I love her? You guys don't understand.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Chad gives me all of the any for social media content,
my life, my groure list.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yes, ma'am is my brain. Mush No, I've only gotten stronger. Okay,
you're working with her.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I had no idea that you were so dedicated and devoted.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh yeah, when Chadjibt is down, Paulino Roe is down,
I am not. Okay, Like everything I do is with
Chadgi Betsy.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
I have boulders. She has folders of me of just
different things in my life.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, anything related to frend show, mommy collective dinner for hobby, like,
it's all there.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Advice for keeping my marriage alive, height, marriage advice? Do
you ever ask for sex advice?

Speaker 9 (11:29):
Like?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
How do I keep thinks spicy in the bedroom?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'll need her for that, Okay, I saw you, Mama.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
That's him.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
He says you should try this, and you're like, how
do you think I got this ring right?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Right?

Speaker 7 (11:44):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Chad a forty seven.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Year old tourist from Cape Croll, Florida, was gored ya
bison in Yellowstone National Park, marking the park's first such
incident of twenty twenty five. The guy sustained minor injuries
after approaching the animal too closely in the Lake Village area,
and which treated on site for emergency personnel. Now you
know that I believe I can reason with a wild animal,
but I am not actually going to approach the wild animal.

(12:07):
It would only be if the animal approach to me,
like if I somehow accidentally stumbled into its den or something.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
That would be when I would need to reason. But
I'm not well.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I would be tempted to try and pet the bison,
because you know I like to pet animals. If I
saw a bison a Yellowstone, I'm not just gonna be
like just get hey, hang on a second, let me
go over there and say what's up. No, I'm not
gonna do that. So why are we doing that? Like,
what are you think is going to happen? They say
to maintain a minimum distance of twenty five yards because
these things can weigh up to two thousand pounds and

(12:39):
run at speeds of thirty five miles an hour. Which
I don't like that news because I'm two hundred and
forty pounds and I can only run at a top
speed of about one mile an hour. So this isn't
good for me because I've been using my size and
weight as the reason why I can't run fast on
the lake shore or whatever. And now you tell me
this thing is two thousand pounds you can run thirty
five miles an hour. Oh so no, I don't know

(13:00):
about them. A burnt out employee and now here you go. Now,
wait a minute, this is very interesting that you say
what you were just saying Pauline about relying on chat
gpt for absolutely everything. A burned out employee hit her
limit and turned to chat gpt for help. After being overloaded, ignored,
and manipulated into taking on more and more, she asked
the bot for logic only advice.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Chat gpt told her to walk out.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Oh no, your job.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
No guilt, no announcement, just so she did.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Surprisingly, instead of backlash, her boss listened. He acknowledged she
wasn't being heard, revealed that a coworker had been overloading
her to climb the ladder, and even gave her more
control over her workload.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
What a positive story. It feels good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
The only problem is I think, like a lot of people,
the only thing chat GP knows is what you tell it.
And I think people, most people only tell their side
of the story, Like most people are freaking delusional. Most people,
most people want you to feel bad for them because
they're convincing you to feel bad for them. Correct and
they're not telling you their side. They're not telling you
that like they're lazy or that they're toxic, yes or that,

(14:11):
but it's you know, they just tell their version, and
of course you get feedback based on what you provide.
I feel like a human can see through that, Like
I would think a skilled therapist would be able to tell.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Or challenge when you're bsing them right right, you know
what I mean? Like, but chat GPT is it can't
be that sophisticated yet.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So I would think that, Yeah, if you say I'm
I'm being mistreated at work and I'm working too hard,
I'm doing it, well, it's going to give you the
kind of advice that it would provide if that based
on you know, studies or you know, based on what
you're telling it.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, So if you say, like my husband's mean to me.
It's going to give you.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Advice about how to treat you know, how to deal
with a mean husband. But what if you're being what
if you're gaslighting chet GPT.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
No, I try to be real even with my therapists
or my fake therapist chat, Like, I try to say,
this is what happened me. I did this because I
want to be self aware. Otherwise this is pointless, Like
I'm not going to one side this. But I think
that advice that you gave with the employee, I don't
think that would work for a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
I think that's like very rare.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't think. I don't know that. I think in
most cases standing up and walking.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Out, I don't recommend no is going to result in
You don't.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Think chat reads your emails and stuff like it has
access to your text messages, your emails, It listens when
we talk.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I feel like it all it knows.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Maybe I've just found that when people I've found a
lot of people who ask for advice.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
M M.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
You got to pry a little bit because like they'll
tell you, they'll tell you what they're upset about, but
they won't tell you. Maybe their role in why it's happening,
and I feel like chat GPT you if I type
in right now they're mean to me at work, then
chat GPT is going to write back something that has
to do with you're a victim. But I think I
do believe most people live in victim mentality.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I do.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I believe that most people believe they're a victim to
the world, and they don't, in fact take any consideration
as to how they might pop simply have a role
in their situation.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
That's true. I believe that I just think chat be listening.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, probably maybe. I don't know anyway, So I don't
know that I would do that. I don't know that
I would. I would just like type in, you know,
and rely on whoever, whatever this thing is, whatever this
computer bank is somewhere. I don't know that I would
just trust it to tell us how to live our lives.
But I mean, maybe we're headed that way.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
They worked for this person and a woman. This is terrible.
A nurse was was.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Was battered by cheesy nachos. This is an awful story.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
A nacho fuel domestic dispute is making waves in Florida.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Port Saint Lucy police. I believe we they can hear
us there.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
So if you're Alison Swan, a nurse and Alison Swan
got into a heated three am argument with her wife,
who's also a nurse, over late night snacking, and things
escalated when Swan allegedly grabbed a handful of cheesy nachos
and shove them down the back of her wife's leggings.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh cops, that it didn't stop there.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Swann reportedly dragged her to the ground, fish hooked her
in the mouth, and slammed her head to the floor.
Now that is, in fact tragic. Now the nachos in
the light, intensitive waste of nachos. And I need to
understand why someone heard the chaos called nine one one.
The woman's been arrested on domestic battery. But imagine you
have to explain that in court, like, well, what happened? Well,

(17:23):
she wouldn't stop eating in bed, so I shoved it
down the back of her pants.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean that's wild.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, it's National Student Nurse Day, National have a coke Day,
a National coconut cream pie Day. Oh, here we go.
AI therapy. Kelly wants talk about AI therapy? Sure, Kelly, Hi, Kelly,
go ahead, morning, Hi, how are you?

Speaker 9 (17:42):
I'm actually a psychotherapist and this is actually a topic
that's come up quite recently about AI therapy. Okay, the
issue with it is the thing that actually predicts the
success in therapy is a therapeutic relationship.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
Which you can't get with AI. And you are one
hundred percent correct. AI cannot read into what people are doing.
It can't see your face, it doesn't read into your tone,
it doesn't look at your body and what you're doing
with it. So that is where the failure with AI
therapy will be.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Because Kelly, I'm not saying that people aren't victims, like
there are plenty of victims out there. There are plenty
of people who need help getting out of a situation
where they're not doing anything wrong necessarily. But I do
believe that most most people believe that everyone's wronging them
and I would imagine someone like you can see through that.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
Yeah, And I challenge people on man to take a
look at those things absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Because if in fact you have a role or your
viewpoint has a role, and whatever's going on in your life,
then that would help you actually get through that if
you could acknowledge the parts that you are responsible for, right, Yes.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
Engaging and taking responsibility for what you have in the situation.
It's not always one side of right.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And AI is not going to know that because it's
only going to know the input, the information you input exactly.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
That is why.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
And you need a job.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So no one should do this because Kelly needs Kellen
needs to go to work, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I don't think I'm ever gonna go without a job here.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, well enough crazy people out there. Ye thank you, Kelly,
have a good day. Glad you called shut up to
Port Saint Lucy this morning with the nacho shortage because
it's down somebody's pants. The entertainment reporting is up next,
Kaylan has that blogs they're waiting by the phone coming up.

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