FULL 6 AM: Ghosts & Congrats!

Fred and Kaelin talk about their belief in ghosts! Plus, is it okay to congraulate someone on their engagement... Fred and the crew discuss.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
You don't stop that, boy, I'm low God.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, honestly I've had enough Sabrina Carpenter with that single espresso.
But Kiki, you got whatule express that nice spread show is.
We're having an in depth conversation this a minute ago.
I got all kinds of stuff you get today, but
this was just an out of the porch. You know.
You got a big table outside the studio where we
hold all of our writers room meetings. All the writers

(01:00):
come out and pitch their ideas to us. We've been
waiting for that for the last fourteen years and no
one shows up. But we're talking about AI somehow very
in depth conversation Calein and we're also out there talking
about the golf of America and UH and world politics
and what's going on with her portfolio? Yeah, you know,
she tells me she gives me an update each day,
and what's going on with her financial portfolio, her real estate.

(01:23):
Today we heard about the real estate holdings. Yeah. So yeah,
what you're saying, like, I don't even know what any
of that means. You just you don't know what. You
don't know what a financial portfolio is, girl, I'm not
good at finances, Okay, we no, I mean it would
it would just be a collection of whatever it is
you own and in this case, zero thing. So there
you go, portfolio. You don't have to worry about it.
But like, can somebody smarter than me, which is probably

(01:47):
most of you eight five five five three five, maybe
Kiki Gett explained this to me? Can you explain to
me what I'm supposed to be doing with AI? Like?
And the reason being because I was telling Kaylen I
saw some TikTok the other day and it was like,
I don't know someone in his or her twenties or thirties,
asking the questions how much are you paying for AI

(02:07):
subscriptions versus cables or you know, versus streaming subscriptions, as
if that was like a very normal thing to have
AI subscriptions? Wow, right, because I'm like, well, of course
I haven't. I have a Netflix, I have a Disney Fluzz.
I mean then you got to crack the code on,
like who you know? Does my phone service pay for this?
Can I get this for free? Can I have my

(02:28):
mom's password for this? You know? Whatever? What am I
supposed to be doing with AI?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Everything?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
What subscription am I supposed to be by? Now?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know me, I don't believe in paying for subscriptions.
I'd rather use your login. So once you get your
want to do that, you need to get all of them.
So actually, Paulina is our AI specialist and she's wait really, yes,
she has put me on Oh no AI?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
What does that say about our team? Paulina is the AI.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Captions with AI, and I can tell because it'll be
like the warmest get.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
To amy with a right salut. We are learning something now? Yes,
I was like, where did probably get the touch on
the captions.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm walking around here stressed using my brain, Like really,
you should be pacing the floor talking to myself trying
to come up with some clever and probably gonna be like, hey, chatty,
BT tell me what to say, and it'll literally tell
her what to say. So I am on board. Now
use AI for everything that you can. So all of
the subscriptions sign up and then give me your passwords.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Thank you. I don't even know which ones to buy.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, you need the you need the math, the banking AI.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
What I need that for?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
This is gonna help you move your money around.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, I don't have much money to move around.
What do you think I'm ryan? I need no, please
don't take it. It goes away every month, and I'm sad.
There's a grocery I'm rich for one day every month.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I tell you what you need to get from the
grocery store. So when you're not you're walking across and
for you totally know that what you came for your AI.
HOWGI know because he knows he knows everything. Right, Okay,
she knows I would feel much they know. I'm really
trying to sound stupid here.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm actually not a total more on like I'm an idiot,
but I'm not like a total more. I really don't know,
and I don't want to become that that old guy,
you know, And I'm not old, but I don't want
to become that old guy. I didn't know what the
hell is going on, and so I was hoping somebody
could educate me. I say, don't use I. If someone
just texted, don't use AI for anything, it was me.
The impact on the environment is tremendously negative. The amount

(04:35):
of water it takes to do one search on AI
is astronomical. That's true.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
If that's true, I'm even more pissed. But we're gonna
our brains throughout our evolution are just going to evaporate.
Like we need to be doing something Like people are
writing cards to their loved ones with a We need
to like know how to tell our loved ones that
we love them.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
What is writing a romantic card to someone or a
loving card to someone if you don't write it. People
are good with words.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's like, I don't care if you're not good with words.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
You should be able to tell me, like what I
mean to you without a computer.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I'm very scared and I'm upset.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I can't find the words sometimes, Caitlyn, when I think
about you, it is hard for me.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's overwhelmed.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You guys, we gotta just know it's it's it's I
was on you know, I was on your side with
this for a long time. But it's like, basically, the
people that use AI, they're driving and the rest of
us are walking uphill. You know what I'm saying, Fighting
for our lives is our brains and they just have it.
They don't do math anymore. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well I never did math.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm just it's too much.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
But then it's like you can get you can get
AI to respond to emails for you. Okay, Well then
I don't know what I said. What did I agree to? Ray?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Like, okay, so they'll write my emails back? All right?
Well then what but like, what did I say I
would do? Where am I supposed to be?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You just tell them, like, you know AI, how do so?
How do I professionally say? This could have been an email?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Right? The biggest stories of the day, Jason, I know
you're all over this, but Game seven of the American
League Championship Series occurred last night, and you know who won, right,
the winner going to the World Series and take on
the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Is yes, the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, it's that exciting. The Miami Dolphins out of the
NFL are going to take on the Los Angeles Dodgers.
That's crazy. It's never before happened, Jason, where a football
team has taken on a baseball team in the World Series.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Right, you know it's twenty twenty five, you know, equal
opportunity for everyone in the World Series.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
That's what it is. That's exactly that's what it is,
exactly right. Actually, shockingly, it turns out that the Toronto
Blue Jays are going to take on the Los Angeles Dodgers. Yeah,
it's in fact not the Miami Dolphins, which is sad
for the Dolphins. No, it was just sad. And it's
a similar place. I don't know if you've been in Toronto,
and it's hard to confuse the too, like when you're
in Toronto and Miami, like sometimes like which one in Miamia? Yeah,

(07:01):
I can see that. Yeah. The World Series between the
Blue Jays and the Jodgers begins on Friday night, and
that Game seven took place last night, a guy was
arrested in the Atlanta airport after he threatened to shoot
it up. Now this is Kiki's second home. As you know,
when she goes to Atlanta, she doesn't actually stay in
a hotel. She just goes to Atlanta and then sleeps

(07:21):
in the airport until her Spirit flight arrives, which could
be on time, it could also be the next day exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
And this is the type of people that I ran
into in that airport.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
So what right everyone at the time when you actually
did do this, because you did do this early on
in the show, like you went and then you said
forget about it, like I'll just go back to the
airport and sleep in a chair for eight hours instead
of getting a hotel room.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yes, I was going for the IHEARTI Like Podcast festival
with Charlemagne, and I said, okay, I'll get a little
flight there.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I No, don't really need to say the entire weekend.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I'm gonna go to the from the airport to the festival,
and then from the festival back to the airport. But
my flight was a red eye the next day, so
I said I'll just stay in the airport. And that
was a bit a big mistake, big, big, big mistake.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, if you've got six hours, you got to
get a hotel room, like six hours hotel room. I
know they're expensive, but like if you if you know, now,
it's one thing if you go to the airport and
they cancel your flight and then you know you're sitting
there like what am I gonna do? I don't know
or you know, I'm not sure when the next flight
is or if it's delayed. That's one thing if you
wind up having to sleep on the floor because of
unanticipated delays. But when you just know that you're gonna

(08:31):
you know, it's eleven o'clock and now you flight to
eight in the morning, Like, no, you don't just go
to the airport.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
No wildest thing I've ever done, and I do not
recommend at all. And they had those like crazy people,
they had those.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Pod things like you could I don't I don't know
if that would work for you, but they got those
things you can like I don't know about Atlanta, but
some of these airports how you can like rent a
little a little pod for a while. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I'm scared about that.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I don't know what's happening in the pods or how
often are.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
We cleaning up? Well, I don't think it's an orgy pod.
I mean I think that's a I think it's a
different kind of pod in Atlantic, and I think they
clean them. But I think they have little spaces that
you can rent for this exact thing. I mean, Camlin,
haven't you got like a full haven't you like a
wax and everything at the airport before?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Oh I didn't go that far, but yeah, you and
I were flying together and I had some time to kill.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I got a foot massage last time I was there.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, I didn't get a wax there, But I don't
know if I'm above it.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
You know, you're just waiting at the airport with nothing
to do but drink.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right exactly, So you're at the airport and you're like, man,
I forgot to get a wax, and who knows this
trip to Carbondale might be lit. You just never know,
like I better go, And then you go and you
ask them and they can do it, and then they
give you a manicure and a pedicure and a wax.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You gotta stay ready, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
You gotta stay ready. At the Atlanta Airport. But this dude,
a forty nine year old man named Billy. He was
arrested at the Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport in Georgia
after his family alerted police that he was live streaming
threats to shoot up the airport. Police then found an
ar fifteen rifle and twenty seven rounds of ammunition in
his vehicle parked outside of the terminal. He also had

(10:10):
a felony arrest record and was not legally allowed to
possess the firearm. It's very scary. The only political story
that you'll hear, at least today, TMZ. And that's a
source I go to for all my news, all my
breaking news. Some people might trust other sources, not me, TMZ.
They're reporting that President Trump is considering commuting hip hop
mogul Sean Didty Combs his roughly fifty month prison sentenced

(10:34):
as early as this week, but the White House has
denied that report. Did He was convicted in July of
twenty twenty five on two counts of transportation for the
purposes of prostitution under the Man Act, and in October
was sentenced to four years and two months in prison
plus a five hundred thousand dollars five excuse me, A
Colorado corner's office has canceled its planned family friendly Halloween

(10:55):
party after public outreach. So the actual coroner's office, where
you would go if you die or a crime is
committed against you when you die. The actual corner's office
was trying to have a family friendly Halloween party, and
people are upset about him. It just so happens. This
is the same building where twenty four decomposing bodies were
recently found hidden behind a door they forgot about him.

(11:20):
The event, meant to be a safe and sweet community celebration,
was called off after residence said that it was deeply
inappropriate giving a grizzly discovery. The bodies, dating back to
fifteen years old, like they've been there for fifteen years
they forgot about him, were found in the former mortuary
run by the ex corner, who resigned in September following
the scandal. Newly appointed corner, a got named Greg greg

(11:42):
had hoped that the event would help rebuild trust with locals,
but after backlast the office release a statement saying that
it's become clear that the event was not well received
by some members of the community and decided to cancel.
Would you attend a family friendly sweet Halloween party at
the corner?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Oh no, No, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I know you guys believe in in like spirits and
ghosts and stuff like that, and I don't. I don't not.
I just I think for me, it's I don't believe
that they're necessarily like floating around messing with us. Maybe
some are, but like I guess, by and large, you know,
if I die in in uh and I'm giving the
opportunity to go to heaven or wherever you go. And

(12:25):
I'm you know, you can do all the things that
you're supposed to be able to do, Like I really
don't have time to like move your water glass in
the middle of the night. Like I'm busy, you know,
I'm I'm, I'm I'm booked and blessed. You know, I
got I got excess to see. I gotta go see
my mana. I gotta go, you know, get with all
the people I never got with. And and you know,
I gotta hang out with my my dogs and my
cats that passed away.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
But I'm too busy with all the people I haven't
got with, right And no, But that's.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
What that's what I'm doing it. No, it's I think
that's what happens in heaven. It's a total free for all,
That's what I think happens. And all the people that
you love to who passed away, they're all there waiting
for you. And then here, you know, here people talking
about all the Congress Hotel. They're floating around and moving
my bathrobe. I don't have time for all that.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, hopefully you don't have the kind of death that
people had there. It's it's very different.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
The people the spirits that are hanging around places, they
didn't die peacefully.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
But I would like to believe that that no matter
how you how you died, that if you lived a
good life, that you get to go and then and
do all the things I just talked about, and that
you're not inclined to hang around the Congress Hotel or
wherever in whoever, whatever haunted place you can think of
where you live and mess with people like I guess
I don't know that about that, but like, do you

(13:36):
believe that the people that were at the corner are
still hanging around the corner, just floating around looking to
mess with the kids, to come trick or treating at
the corner's office.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
You guys, would they forgot me in a wall, I
would be so pissed. I would never leave that spot.
Fifteen of us.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, like I geup out of there, I'd be gone,
you know, Like I'm not hanging around like I'm free
where you're going. I mean, I haven't, like I'm not
hanging out of the place anymore. But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I guess I believe whatever you need to that makes
you feel better, but it's real.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I don't know that I believe that they hang
around there. But at the same time, I will admit
like I don't I wouldn't buy a house where someone died.
I'm not going to go hang out of the coroner's
office for a sweet Halloween party. Like I don't have
any interest in being where dead bodies were. I mean,
I don't like going to hospitals because unfortunately, I know
people die there. Like I don't know. It's not because
I think they're floating around. It's just like, ooh, I
don't know. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
That oh feeling is a sense that you can't see
you feel that feeling because there's bad energy in certain places.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Or because I convince myself that that it's weird.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Caitlyn, you were allowed to believe what you wanted. I
can believe what I want. We can have two different beliefs.
I know. Well, you're like, oh my god, you idiot,
Oh god, crazy person. That's not it for that's a fact. No,
you just called me an idiot. Okay, I appreciate that
because I don't think people are floating around because I
think they got better stuff to do.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
You clearly don't have a whole harem of psychics in
your phone.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay, well that's true. That is true. I only have
one or two maybe two. I think I have one
for pets and one for people. And finally, this is
a sweet story, but a stranger answered to Facebook post
and donated a kidney to a guy in Saint Louis
then he'd never met, giving him a second chance at life.
See this is why I check Facebook occasionally, because he

(15:26):
gives It's not all just people who you didn't realize
that they're terrible people when you look at what they're
posting on Facebook. That's what I thought. That's what Facebook
has become. It is like I'll go on there to
see if it's somebody's birthday or whatever. I don't know
why it's part of my scroll, and I'll go on
there and I'll be like, oh, I didn't know that
person felt that way about that, Like I' what a shame.
And I don't know why that Facebook is the place

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to post those sorts of things, but it is, it
really is. But the donor named Joe, says his decision
was driven by faith, second chance like Jesus gave me,
he said. The recipient is a guy named Tim, and
he had been publicly searching for a kidney donor. The
guy responded after seeing the plea. The two complete strangers
now share a deep connection, and the transplant offers one

(16:09):
of them, of course, hope for a healthier future. So
good things do happen on Facebook, guys. It's Back to
the Future Day, it's National Pharmacy Technician Day, and it's
National Reptile Awareness Day. Calon's entertainment report. He's on the
Bread Show.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
All right, Well, you may not agree with what he
is saying, and no one can argue that John Stamos
is very clearly a good friend after going hard to
support his full house co star Lourie Laughlin during a
recent podcast appearance, and he says that her a strange
husband is actually the one to blame for the whole
college admission scandal.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Here's somebody three years I've known her, and you know,
you can see through people after a few years, but
this woman's the same. But she has never you know,
it's just hard to see her going.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Heart looking for her right now.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
I've really tried to be there for her during this
time and also with the with the collars again, I mean,
I'm not going to debate whether she had much to
do with it or not. I know she didn't. I
mean he dragged her through that maybe she saw something
I don't know. And then and then I think right
around that time they busted and got Mossam out of
their guns and stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
She prayed for this guy.

Speaker 7 (17:24):
I pray that he gets a hold of his whatever
hole that he's trying to fill, however he's trying to
fill it. I pray that he realizes that what he
had was was everything that anyone could ever hope for,
and that he gets some help.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I think this guy needs help.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Whatever negativity or hard hardships that you've been through your life,
is connected to this guy, you know, Like I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
And this guy he's supposedly not a very good guy.
Like I think he cheated on her.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
You know, I'm taking a fifth on that. Whatever he
did to her, it busted her up to the core. Yeah,
and she put up with a lot over the years
of this guy. He's a look, he's he's a very
successful dude. Uh. You know, I will never talk to
him again. He he's a terrible narcissist. And I don't

(18:12):
think you ever get out of that.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
So John Samuels loves this guy. John Samuels is like
their boys. Like what I hear is pickleball this weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, he really loves him. I don't know, I mean,
say what you will.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I think everybody's afraid to have an opinion and these days,
and I don't know, I just he really went hard
for her obviously. Massimo, I don't know if you guys
remember his line.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
At Target yet. That's what I know him for.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
But twenty year thee Masimo, like the Mamo from the nineties, Like,
is that the same.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Guy Mamo Giannui?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I thought, so yeah, let me hold on, let me
make double check before I get everybody.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
You guys, But there was a time when Massimo, like
in the nineties was was was that girl like him?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yep, I'm assuming that's him. Yet he was a fashion
designer and I don't know. Oh yeah, I mean it's interesting.
I mean I don't know how much you can say
you don't know if your spouse is doing something under
your nose. But I just thought it was an interesting take.
And uh, they always didn't they have a little rumored
like didn't they date John Stamos and Laurie Oh back
in the day or wasn't.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
There like a will day won't they moment?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Ever, No, I thought you talked about how I thought
he's spoken about how like they both wanted to at
one point, but they kept missing each other.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Am I making this up?

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Their chemistry was insane though, Yeah, hold on on full
House for the acting.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Was the acting on that show doesn't get enough appreciation, honestly.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like, honestly they were the they weren't marri because it
couple in my opinion, like, yeah, they were really hot.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I mean they were hot, like, you know, he was
good looking, she was hot. Apparently they did not.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Know this, says are here.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
They dated in their late teens, but the timing was
off for a long term relationship and they never had
a serious romance.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Oh this says John Samis set the record straight on
his friendship that he would never leave his wife for her.
Oh well, no, when he got married though, well I
don't know when he got married.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So anyway, married for a minute.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Moving on to Eric Dane, who is set to star
in an episode of NBC's Brilliant Minds as an ALS
patient while he is battling the disease himself. Eric you
probably know him from Grey's Anatomy or Euphoria. He opened
up back in April about being diagnosed with ALS, which
is a neuro degenerative disease that affects nerve cells in

(20:25):
the brain and spinal cord and causes the loss of
muscle control. And you can see that it is affecting him.
It's really really sad and currently there is no cure.
But on this show, he plays the role of Matthew,
a firefighter who is actually struggling to tell his family
about his ALS diagnosis. Turning to doctor Oliver Wolfe, who's
Zachary Kinto on the show. He's the series lead, and

(20:47):
he turns to him for guidance. It will air November
twenty fourth, and I cannot imagine there will be a
dry eye from anyone watching that. Lastly, my girl Paris Hilton,
who actually taught me a lot about eighty age and
all of the things. She's launching a new web series
called Inclusive by Design where she designs her own new

(21:07):
home with her ADHD diagnosis in mind. So it explores
how someone with ADHD can create living spaces that work
for them, combining design and lifestyle and wellness. She shared
her struggles and done a lot of research on it.
She's actually like very interesting. She watched this documentary and
then has done a lot of like advocacy and talks
about how it affects her because it's it's more of

(21:30):
like it's I think it's more than a learning issue,
and I don't think people realize that. But if she
can design a home where I stop leaving like spatulas
in my shower and you know, my underwear in the fridge,
then that would be helpful. So I'm going to watch
that show, and if you want to watch or catch
up on our little show, type the Fred Show on
demand on the free iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So a Korean Newsweek, and I trust Newsweek as it
pertains to Lori Laughlin and John Stamos, but they had
a They played a couple, of course on Full House,
but despite their on screen chemistry, they did not date
in real life as Laughlin was married and so was
John at the time. So he was with Rebecca Romaine
she was married. He has since expressed it he wouldn't

(22:12):
have left his wife at the time for her, emphasizing
their strong friendship rather than any romantic connection.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I don't know if this Ai says they went to
Disneyland on their date. They both have cited unfortunate timing
as the reason they never pursued a relationship.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
So I don't know. Your girl Chad might be wrong?
Then what is she doing with? What's his nuts? From Sami?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Jerry O'Connell right, always.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
On Watch What Happens Live. He's another one like Jimmy Fallon.
He is a lot you want to well, he didn't
have He was on with the Women of the.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
He tried to auditioned to replace the Wendy Williams he
set in for.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Her a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's been on the view. I want to an obvious
fit Wendy Williams, Jerry O'Connell. I can totally see how
people would the same audience would like them both. And
then what else do you do?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Kiki oh I said he was on like those panel
shows with the view and.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
The talk, and really she's taking the rounds trying to
get a slot some somewhere.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, and that's funny. I would watch him.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
He's funny. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, but he's also isn't
a staple on the Hallmark channel. I thought that was
like his thing. Well, I know she is, so I
don't know if Yeah, I'm not sure, But I love
the people on TikTok who do like the parodies of
the Hallmark movies because they're all they're all kind of
the same general plot. It doesn't mean like they change

(23:35):
the season, like you know, sometimes it's fall, sometimes it's winter,
sometimes it's summer, but no matter what, it's big city
marketing girl or big city business girl coming back to
her small town because me Mau just died and they
have to get the family, you know, affairs in order.
And small town high school boyfriend who's now running the
orchard that's nearly out of business needs to be saved

(23:56):
by big city marketing girl, you know, and then she
offers to help keep the business alive. Then they fall
back in love, and then big city marketing girl winds up,
you know, leaving New York to move back to you know,
Paducah or whatever, to be with small town guy and
live a simple life like that's bag. I just basically
told you every Hallmark movie that's ever.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Been made everyone, So yeah, it doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Right, Pauline, just watching ticket this time, Big city marketing
Girl's going back. What my book is He's going back
and she's never is she gonna say, small town boy,
I know why I left you. I'm out of here
and then and then but that would just ruin the
Hallmark channel if that's what happened. Sure, so I don't
think we can do it, guys, I want to I
want to teach you some meticutt this morning, because as

(24:38):
you know, I am, I am, I am at the
pulse of etiquette here and right I am. A lot
of people have been asking me if I would consult
them on, you know, how to act, and obviously, but
I want to know what you think about this one.
This is the thing now that we're never supposed to
do Kiki. And for the people who are getting tired
of the Kiki wedding content, well, hang on tight. She's
not getting married till at least twenty seven, which means

(25:00):
we're gonna milk this for everything is worth. We're getting
at least two years out of this. Not to mention
the fact that I could meet someone and get married
before Keiki's gonna book her a venue, but it doesn't matter.
Etiquette experts say that you should never congratulate a woman
on her engagement what because the wording congratulations implies that

(25:21):
the woman's value is now confirmed only by being married.
A better response is to wish her well or express
support without framing the milestone as an achievement that needs congratulating.
Medican experts say the word congratulations may inadvertently reinforce gendered
expectations around marriage, rather than recognizing a personal decision or

(25:43):
relationship commitment. The experts claim that it's time to rethink
common social responses and consider more thoughtful, neutral language when
someone gets engaged, I want to talk to you guys,
but eight five five five nine one one three five
you can call in Texas same number be nice to Bellahamin.
I can't say congratulations anymore that you are are are

(26:06):
engaged to be married. And I feel like for me,
where I would be coming from and where I have
come from in congratulating somebody for getting married, is it's
like anything else that's a big accomplishment or not even accomplishment,
that's probably the wrong word big big, right, I mean,
you know it's I think it's a big deal for
whether it lasts or doesn't last, for two people to

(26:27):
be together and decide that they want to, you know,
join in some sort of formal union or whatever. And
most people when they get engaged or excited, and I
think they would see it as a celebration. And I
typically associate the word congratulations with some form of celebratory thing.
So are we offended? Now? Am I devaluing Kiki by
saying congratulations for being engaged? I guess if you want

(26:51):
to be a pessimist, you could spin it and say, oh, good, congratulations.
He finally did it, but like no one that's what
he's said. Well, but that was funny. I was kidding.
I wasn't. I wasn't mean serious, Like I don't think
anyone really means that either if they say it, it.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Doesn't make This is a case of taking stuff too far.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
We take stuff too far, like you know, you know
when you are purposely trying to offend someone, you know,
when you're trying to be shady. So if my friend
tells me congratulations on my engagement, what kind of weirdo
would I be if I took that statement and said, oh,
you're trying to demean You're trying to devalue me because

(27:31):
you said congratulations. Like, come on, we just take stuff
way too far as a society and I am tired
of it.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Well, I got you a sympathy card because you know,
the streets are losing a good one. Thank you, and
you know one you know what, for the rest of
your life. Yeah, but would you be offended by this? No,
I'm big funny. No, I literally don't care about anything,
and I'm so sick of people caring about everything.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because exhausted, it's possible to inadvertently offend someone. I mean, like,
if you are there are lots of ways you could
do it right. There are lots of ways that you
could say something that you mean to be benign. And
but like now, conventionally we're not allowed to congratulate someone
for getting engaged, because we may make it because someone

(28:15):
could interpret it as that right, that they're lucky that
the guy did it, or that somehow there I don't
if anything doesn't. Wouldn't it be fair to say that
your value in that relationship was just leveled up, you know,
because the person and again, and that doesn't mean you

(28:35):
were leveled up, but it means like, wow, we're taking,
regardless of this terms, we're taking this relationship to another level.
I want to be with this person for the rest
of my life, whether it's the guy proposing to the
guy or the girl or whatever, and then the girl
saying yes. In this case male female dynamic, everyone here
is consenting. Everyone here is you know what I mean.
It's not like it's all He finally asked that I

(28:57):
was forced to say yes. I mean, I just like about.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
This yesterday, Like sometimes we just have to make peace
with people putting their own filter on things. Like I
said congratulations to you right now. If you took that
and you put your filter on it and said key key,
saying I'm nothing without a man, that's your problem, Like
that's not on me. I cannot I can't worry about
how you took that. I know my attention. I know

(29:21):
I didn't come, you know, with any type of undercutting.
It was just a simple congratulations.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
We all, I should say, put our own filter on things,
but everyone has to do the work on themselves to
say what is my filter and what is real exactly
for sure, because you know we all grew up different.
But yeah, no, I agree. I say that all the time,
like we're all just interpreting things the way that we
have experienced other things.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, that's a very real thing, Kalin, because that's another
thing I think is like more societal. But like, at
what point am I not responsible for you interpreting something
entirely differently than I intended it? Like you know, if
I say to you thing, and then you you like
if I said you congratulations for getting engaged, Kiki, and
and and and you decide what that means is, Oh,

(30:08):
you know, I had no value until this man proposed
to me. And that's why you're congratulating me because now
you see that someone someone like wanted me enough to whatever.
If you go down that road and then you get mad,
like that's that's one hundred percent on you, right, like,
that's like ninety nine percent of people who say that
don't I don't even know if one hundred percent of
people don't mean that, Like i' well, we don't have that.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know, there's there's that in the family who you
come to dinner Thanksgiving dinner and they're like single again,
huh or you know, oh no.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's no, that's pretty different. That's not that's not even
that's not even cryptoch But.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I'm saying so when she says congratulations on land in
a man, I pick up all the shape.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Right, Yeah, you don't have shame because he wants to
throw it in there little yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
There's context, right, because that's a person who you know,
has said these things in the past. Like if someone's
not been mean to you most the time and then
they say something that that could be spun either way,
isn't it kind of our responsibility? Shit, isn't like a
nice thing to do to just go ahead and take
the positive spin on it as opposed to just because
if you're walking around just waiting to be offended by
everybody or have your feelings hurt by everybody, then people

(31:16):
are gonna stop talking to you exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's the truth. Yeah, it's the truth.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
I think it's our moral responsibility to do the work
on ourselves to like understand how we're processing things. I mean, unfortunately,
not everyone does that, which is why we have issues.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Also, Hey, if.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Something hit you the wrong way, it's not what you say,
it's how you say. You can be like, hey, you know,
what do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Or what not?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Like we you can have a conversation like we're just
yelling at everyone all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, I mean, if I say to Kiki, if I go, man, congratulations,
finally you're worth something, right, you know, like okay, well,
then that's exactly what I meant apparently. But if I
say congratulations for you know whatever, I don't know where
you came up with. Oh, finally somebody sees value in
me and finally you ignore that is just crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
That's your own insecurities, just and like you got to
own that.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I'm sorry you do. Like, I can't feel bad for
that because because you know, unless unless I'm known to
be terrible to you, and then maybe you could spin
it that way and it would be on me, I suppose,
because I haven't been nice to you. But Rebecca, good morning,
This Rebecca remains stamos, hey did did did you?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Or not?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Rebecca? On a second, where's Rebecca? Why can't I hear Rebecca?
Rebecca Hell, maybe she can't hear me. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
You were sure that I was rewatching Gilmore Girls in
a few weeks ago, and Richard and Emily renewed their vows.
Luke says congratulations to Emily and she goes, oh, no,
you never said congratulations to bride you they best wishes you,
only congratulate the group.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh is that where this is all coming up from.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
I have no idea, but as soon as you started
talking talking about this, I was like, wait a minute,
I had never heard that before when I was watching
the episode. I've been doing it all wrong all my life.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I don't know. Thank you, Rebecca. I don't know. I
feel like I don't know what I'm allowed to say anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
And when I'm not, it almost looks worse for me
to be like Kiki, I wish you well, son, like.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Like good luck girl, You're going don't say that now?

Speaker 4 (33:24):
What if you say why did I have to find
out on Instagram not via message?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
What if you say that to a bride?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, I've been that a thousand times, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, yeah, I said, in the same room with you
for twenty four hours, and the sizorio wasn't ready yet,
so I couldn't know what about what about? Oh, but
congratulations