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January 7, 2026 33 mins

Jason loves eating in his car, but he thinks it's gone too far! Plus, find out why Sam got ghosted on an all new Waiting by the Phone!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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back for tickets. I'm reading some of the texts Jason,
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(00:44):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is that right? Yes? Okay, even I'm a little confused.
Thank god you're here now.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
In the olden days, before Jason Brown was part of
The Fred Show, I would have just freestyled this and
then Jason would have been driving to work.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Going no, no, Fred, No, that is not what we
are not doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
That we don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That person is not even coming, and then you'd have
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(01:43):
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(02:06):
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Speaker 1 (02:18):
On how to win.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I think that one's a little bit easier, is yes, yeah,
a little bit easier to win that the on demand channel.
And then we have a new tab on the iHeartRadio
app as well. It is the highlights tab, isn't it? Yes, Sam,
I got I rely on you guys so much because
I say stuff that's right, and then I look over
and I'm like looking for validation that I know what
I'm talking about. You know, there's a lot of a

(02:40):
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Speaker 1 (02:50):
It is the Fred Show. Hey wake up?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
If I have a ghost boop like I'm so myself.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Fatasy we don't talk.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
She's for clemps.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I've been. We don't get more about that.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
When you look down, there's nothing there, but you.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Know you did work.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Fred Show is on Wednesday, January seventh. Fred Show is
on I Kaitlin Hi, Jason Brown, Hi, Kiki, showby is
Shelley and tie breaking with Peter eight hundred BUCKSI is
the prize will play in a little bit. We're commercial
free the next forty five minutes on the Fred Show,
no commercials.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Jason has a blog in just a second. Waiting by
the Phone is new and next as well. Why did
somebody get ghosted? Will investigate? And what are you working
out for the entertainment report?

Speaker 6 (03:36):
K We talked yesterday about that toxic mom group of
like early two thousands girlies in LA and I think
we might have figured out who the toxic one is
and her own husband is the one who.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Revealed it on accident.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I games to Wednesday too. We play a couple of
games on Wednesday. We don't play the rest of the week.
Definitely gonna beat Paulina. It's like the show be is
Shelley Showdown, except it's general knowledge you filled in one day.
We did it now we do it every Wednesday. We'll
play in the next hour beginning of next hour, and
then Kiki Karaoke is a Wednesday thing too. The premise
of that is we start a song, we stopped the song.

(04:09):
You have to get the next two lines of lyrics
right or wrong. And somebody has to tell us ahead
of time whether they think you'll do it.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yes, and I always win.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And Camelyn's idea today for a theme. It's a good
idea Star Search because Netflix is rebooting it. As we
learned earlier, did you know a Lea was on Star Search?
So you're gonna have to know I mean to make
you do it.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know. I haven't decided yet. Leah, Adam Sandlers,
you haves to do.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
An Adam Sandlervie word for word great, Alanis Moore set
The Backstreet Boys were on Star Search. I didn't realize
it was on in ninety three. Britney Spears in ninety two.
Christina Aguilera was on Star Search in nineteen ninety. Dave
Chappelle Destiny's Child was on Drew Carey, Justin Timberlake was

(04:50):
on Star Search, Kevin James, Leanne Rimes, Yes Martin Lawrence,
Norm MacDonald Pitbull was on Star Search. Ray Romano bald
back then he was wearing a mister three three or
five hat. He does appear to be bald, though I
don't seen you here, Brandy, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Right, I think he was born like that.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Tiffany. I think We're Alone now, that's from the eighties.
It was a young young man. This is a lot
young boy.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Usher was on there.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I didn't, but I had no idea what that
Tiffany song mant when I was four years old or five,
but I can remember hearing it on the radio.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think We're alone now? You know the sound you don't?

Speaker 7 (05:30):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's amazing to me the stuff that Jason does know
and the stuff that Jason doesn't know. Now, somebody had
suggested on the text that the Kiki and Kiki karaoke
to give you a little sample of what you'll hear
in a little bit, uh that that you do Kelly Clarkson,
since you've been.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Gone, it's been done alright. She knows the words.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
She's so good with the worst shoa.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
What are you doing? I swallow it all here about
to swallow it all?

Speaker 9 (06:18):
And that's what Kelly saying radios on the Thread show.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now, that's what I hear every time I'm in the
grocery store and the song. People think I'm weird. When
I built it out.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I really thought that was the lyric.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I really did, like, I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
Kelly was out here like that.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I didn't even think.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
About that saying like, I just felt like that's.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
What she said. I really thought about like it changes
the whole meaning of the song.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Since you've been gone, you know, I can't breathe, remember
I used to and you're still gone.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Why are you mad? What are you upset about?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I swallow it all my pride, my pride.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right, I'm all my pride. Okay, like writing in our diaries,
except we said I'm aloud. We call them blogs, Jason go,
thank you, dear blog. So I need some advice here.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
I am a fan of muck bangs. Do you guys
know what those are? It's people eating and like having
a conversation with themselves, I guess on video. So I
watch this all the time. I'm a huge fan, and
a lot of people don't like it because I don't
like the sound of eating. For some reason, I love it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I like the sound of other people eating.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Yes, it's like relaxing to me.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know why.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
So a lot of these videos are shot in the car,
and I'm a big car eater. Okay, Like if I'm
going through a drive through or whatever, instead of taking
the food home, I'll pull over and I'll just eat
it in the car. But now I'm wondering if I've
gone too far because I ate a full Chipotle burrito
in my car. Okay, So now I feel like I'm
at a crossroads, and this is where I need your

(08:02):
guys help. Either I stop eating in the car, or
do I get one of those trays that clamp on
the steering wheel and eat like that?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What do you think I should?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wait, I'm confused, what does that have to do with
watching and listening to people leave?

Speaker 7 (08:15):
Then I because, well, one, they shoot them in their cars.
But then I watched the muck Bangs while I'm eating
in my car, so I feel like we're eating together.
But then I was like, wait, do I start doing
muck bangs in the car? And maybe that's my thing?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I need that.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
With the Food Network, I can't. I can only watch
the Food Network while I'm eating.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Beat Bobby Flay in the after I can't. I can't
be watching beat Bobby Flay with no food in my hand.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh yeah, because you're going to get hungry watch exactly. Yeah,
so that's the only time anyway, Yes.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Yes, kay, I just I have been trying to manage
him for years because he loves gas station food as well,
and I would love a series from him on gas
station food.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
When I get you that in the car?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, okay, so maybe that's my thing.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I need a tray.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Then that's another level. If you get a tray, yeah,
in your car eat.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Maybe I'm committed to my my business.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, you're going always in the car. I'm always
in the car, like I don't know. But even though
I'm like I'll be at home, and.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
I was like, oh, I really want your potlet, so
I go and I pick it up. Instead of like
a normal person driving home and eating it at home.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I pull over and eat in the car.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Because when we do our tours, we all get breakfast,
we all take it, and then you're like, no, I'm
gonna sit and eat right here.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Why don't you like to drive?

Speaker 10 (09:25):
Food?

Speaker 7 (09:25):
Is like you need like a fork for that normally,
Like if I get a skillet or something like, I
don't think I can eat with the utensil.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
We wait till you get home to eat. It's like religious.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You can skill it, is it. That's a that's a rope.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's already wild.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's crazy to take it out of this skillet then
put it in some sort of to go contain.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Eat for the road.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, like when do you go home and light it
on fire yourself? You get the flow.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
I'd like to eat right away.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I like my food hot.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
I on that aspect, like fries are not safe in
the car with me. Don't ever send me to get
your food in his fries in the car, because I'm
gonna eat all of the fries and I'll put a
little few in my bucket and you know, yours or whatever.
But eating a burrito, Jason, and it's a real big baby, Hey,
your friend, I'll I don't know, I know.

Speaker 11 (10:12):
I imagine people like driving by and I'm just me
and alone in a parking spot and I park like
far away from everyone else, so God knows what people
think I'm up to, and I'm just eating this giant
burrito in the front seat of my.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Car No, it's funny that you that you bring this up,
because hold on, what does this say Bobby Flake cooking
insane cuisine. It's not the same as watching Randoms eat
a big mac. No, I'm not saying it was the same.
No one was saying it was the same. I'm saying,
I agree with you that I eat, that I watch
food content while I'm eating. Yeah, very different kind of content.

(10:44):
It's not a Bobby Flake muck bang. But yeah, but
I live alone, single guy, I live alone. You guys
all live with people, and over the years you've talked
about how sometimes you crave food that you then or
you'll like leave the house and go and eat like
a secret fast food meal because you don't want to
be judged by your partner or whatever the for the

(11:06):
craving that you have. And for the last couple of weeks,
I was with my parents for the holidays, and I
felt this because like my dad basically sleeps in the
living room in his chair, like he reads his book
and falls asleep, and that's where he winds up until
two or three in the morning. So like, so I
don't know, ten thirty at night, I'm on vacation, I'm up,
I'm hungry.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I would not.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I did not want to go out in the kitchen
to start rating their refrigerator because he's right there. He
would see me, and I would feel judged. And there
were a number of times living under their roof for
the last ten days when I would want to go,
like get a fast food, like I really wanted to
eat something disgusting and so I but I wouldn't want
to go get it and bring it home because I
didn't want to be judged. And then I would offer

(11:46):
it to them. I'd be like, you know, what would
be a great idea is if we had this and
then they'd ah, we're good. So then I would have
to go get it and then bring it home and
like eat it in shame, sneak at the kitchen table
by myself. But it's amazing the things that I can
get away with living alone, because I know someone asked
me last night about my favorite door Dash orders, and
I just start spouting off all the absolute toxic garbage

(12:06):
that I ordered my house. And I don't care if
I ordered two mans and an appetizer in a dessert
and I'm gonna spread it out over while or I'm
gonna eat it all at once, depends on my mood.
I don't care no one is there to see it.
I would be a twig if I live with somebody,
because I would and you may say after a while,
I would get comfortable and I wouldn't be anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But over time I would.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I or at least initially, I would be afraid to
order all the stuff that I order now because I
wouldn't want people to look at me like, are you serious?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Both of those things to go skill it.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yep, Miley, stop.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
Dad put a camera in our cabin's kitchen, and I'm like,
we're all really upset about it. He's like a weirdo
about cameras, Like he puts them all over that side,
all over the inside, and I'm like, I don't even
want to come here anymore.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I feel like I'm on display. And you know, they
all go to bed and.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Sometimes I have a little wine, I have a little
you know, and I want to get in there, but
I'm being.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Watched, right yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
And also I'm trying to I'm not trying to buy
you something every time too, you.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
Know, like he always has to go to the gas station,
but I'll check his location.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
He's at Culver's.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You know, he'll come back.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Just I'm like, did you get the gas?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh yeah, that's it. You know. So he went to eat,
but he didn't want to get you anything. Exactly the
same thing.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Before Michael be like, how's that Taco bell?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I'm in the Taco Bell parking lot.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, that's because he has your location but you don't.
You're not allowed to have.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
His correct Yeah, that's my wow. Yeah, theosyncrasies of.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
That, right, because he flies to different states to get.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
Dogs, and so now I need to get my taco
bell driged on the street, pulling that parking lot and
then eat it.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So you're eating the way you guys. It makes perfect
sense to me now because.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
At the time I was like, really, you're running off
to eat secret meals, Like it's your house, go eat whatever. No,
I don't want to be judged for the disgustingness.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Everyone on the text wants you to do it. Someone
told you to follow your dreams.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So I'll order this year and trade table. Ever been
left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Sam,
Good morning, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 10 (14:11):
How are you hey, I'm good, I'm doing okay, how
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Man?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
What's going on with this woman? Heather?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Because our mission here is to try and figure out
if you have been ghosted, But in order to do that,
we need to know everything. How did you guys meet,
where did you go, how did the date go? And
then where are things now?

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Yeah, well, thanks for taking my call because I'm I've
never been in this situation before.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm I'm confused.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
I'm I'm a little hurt, and yeah, I mean, I
just I had a really really good time with Heather.
She hasn't spawned to any of my calls or text lately.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
The way we met.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
I'm a bartender, actually pretty popular restaurant.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
A pretty popular bartender.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, so far, okay, bartender at a popular venue, all right.

Speaker 10 (15:02):
Right right, And I never do this, I worry. I'm
a professional. Okay, I'm not like hitting on all the
patrons or anything like that. But you know, she was,
she was gorgeous. She was she was sitting just with
a friend one night, and she was sending me all
the green flags, all the signals that she was she
was kind of into me, so you know, we were
flirting back and forth all night. I thought she was

(15:23):
serious about, you know, going from there, so I discreetly
asked for her number. She gave it to me, and
then we went on an incredible date, like chemistry out
out the door. I mean, it was incredible.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
It was.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It was the best first date I've had in a
long long time.

Speaker 10 (15:37):
And you know, we ended up actually going back to
her place, and you know, I know, I'm not trying
to kiss and tell, but I slept over.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm not trying to I'm not trying to kiss, but
let me go ahead and tell you what we did.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
I'm not going into the details, but it was. It
was a good night for sure, you know. Yeah, And
so I thought she was into it too, and we
talked a bunch after the date. You know, I texted
her the next day and we were.

Speaker 10 (15:59):
Planning and going out again, and then nothing like just
completely disappeared, completely ghosted me. And I have no idea
what's going on, Like I can't get through to her
through call, through texts. So that's that's why I turned
to you guys.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well as Polina would say, de tail so old as
time on waiting by the phone. I mean, you know,
everything goes great, I mean very to me. Right, that's
a successful date.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
To me.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You go on a date, she invites you back to
her place, even that's like her territory.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean, all this is good.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
But for whatever reason since that, I mean, even the
activities that you purport went on, I mean, but yet
you haven't heard from her since then.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And that's mystifying to you exactly. Yeah, And that's the thing.
I always think people get ghosted. It's like, oh, you
don't have a gauge on these types of things.

Speaker 10 (16:44):
I've been on good dates, I've been on bad dates.
I know when the chemistry is good, and like this was,
this was firing and all cylinders. Honest, I'm being I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
What's going on.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, you come to the right place, Sam, We're going
to play a song. Come back in two minutes. We're
going to call her. You'll be on the phone at
the same time. I don't want you to say anything
right at first, but at some point you're walking to
jump in on the call, and the hope is that
we can figure out what's going on, straightened things out.
There might be a good explanation, and then if that's
the case, we'll set you up on another date and
we'll pay for that.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Hey Sam, Hey, all right, let's call Heather. You are
a bartender, she was a customer. You guys hit it off,
You went on a date, the date went great. You
wound up back at her place on the date, which
that sounds good. Things happen, you spent the night, you
wake up. You have not heard from her. She hasn't
responded to you. She hasn't reached out since then. You
feel like you're being ghosted and you want to know why.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's pretty much it. Yeah, all right, let's call her now.
Good luck? Thanks? Hello? Hi is this Heather? Hi, This
is Heather. Good morning. My name is Fred.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Can we chat for
a little bit on the show? You can hang up
at any time? Okay, sure, thank you. We're calling on
behalf of a guy named Sam. Sam, the bartender who
we just spoke to a second ago, and he was

(18:11):
telling us about a date that he went on with
you that he thought was extremely successful. But he says
that he hasn't been able to get a hold of
you since then, and he's kind of curious, why did
this all make sense to you?

Speaker 13 (18:22):
You're joking, right, He wants to know why I ghosted him.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, and he just a second ago was telling us
like he really feels like he's tuned in, you know,
to a good date when he sees one, and he
felt like that was a good date. But it sounds
like you may have a different impression. Can you tell
us your side of the story.

Speaker 13 (18:41):
Okay, Well, I mean I don't really know what he
told you. But we met at the restaurant where he
works as a bartender.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
M he was like.

Speaker 13 (18:50):
Laying it on stick and like I, since he's cute,
I flirted back. He got my number and that's like
where everything started. But I can't live I'm about to
end this on the radio. But he we went on
a date and he ended up staying over.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Okay, this all checks out. Yeah, that's he said all
of that. All right, so we're on the same page.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
Then what Okay, So like a few days later, I'm
near the restaurant that he works at, so I thought
about like just stopping by to surprise him and grab
a drink, and I ask it, I guess he wasn't in,
So I asked his coworkers, like, what's going on, Like
where is he? And they're like, I think he took
the day off to do some family photos with his

(19:32):
wife and kids.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh you know what again, Pauline a tail so old
as time.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
So they never learn, and I have to.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Imagine that he failed to mention that at any point
in the process.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
You forgot well, definitely.

Speaker 13 (19:50):
I mean I even like tried to confirm, like through
multiple coworkers that like, this was.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
The Sam that we're.

Speaker 13 (19:55):
Talking about, and after that, I just blocked his number.
And I feel really awful, like I would have never
flat to the married man. Absolutely not, That's against my morals.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, right, we there's a lot of issues. There
are a lot of issues here. First of all, the
coworkers and narcs, all right, And the second of all,
why are we If one of you guys told somebody
that I was having, you know, a Sears photo shoot
with my wife and kids, I would know that you
headed in for me. Of course, I would then be
a cheater. I would be married with kids, which I'm
not but let me let me bring Sam in, Heather.

(20:27):
I did forget to mention that Sam is here. I
I'm very forgetful Sam. The wife and kids part, we
we uh we left that out.

Speaker 10 (20:34):
Well, that's okay, I she that doesn't know, Okay, there's
she was.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I never mentioned having a wife and kids, so knowing that, that's.

Speaker 11 (20:47):
Why I'm not whether or not that part is even true.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
You guys don't know if that's true either, So I mean,
I think we're all jumping to some assumptions here.

Speaker 13 (20:58):
Well, the detective work. I did all the detective work, like,
I know it's true, and I.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
This is a little private honest.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
I'd rather talk to you about this, you know, part
of my life in private, if you don't mind, like
maybe not putting.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Those radio you could share it with everybody sort of.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You for or went the privacy when you came on
the radio show and asked us to fix this for
you knew that you were married with kids, and yet
you still called to do this, and then now you're
saying we can't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
No, we're talking about it. I never mentioned it.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
I mean I thought this was going to be you know,
I was gonna explain what I'm comfortable sharing, and then this,
I just I feel personally completely blindsided, and I don't
think this is very fair to me.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
You're blindsided.

Speaker 13 (21:41):
I'm blindsided that I slept with a married man.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
You possibly be blindsided.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
How is that fair to you? Sam? You did this.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
He's having a hard day.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
But they were cool though, Like, you're not going to
say anything to kelse here, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh god, I'm a girls girl. Let's drop let's drop
her name. So, okay, you're married with kids. What I'm
waiting for is for you to maybe are you are
you not?

Speaker 10 (22:06):
I neither confirm nor deny these allegations, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You're not even about to tell me about You're not
about to even tell me about. Like how I figure
what you were gonna say is you were in some
kind of open relationship or there was some kind of understanding,
But you haven't even gone there, so.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I mean that might be the situation.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Maybe it's a situation. Why don't you tell us? We
can clear this all up right now? Are you in
fact in some kind of an open relationship or are
you not? Because I would think that you'd be screaming
that from the rooftop right now as a way to
sort of cover.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
This in my Yet in my mind, I am free
to do as I please.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
In his mind? What about in Kelsey's mind?

Speaker 10 (22:45):
Is I she has nothing to do with this?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, okay, So so she doesn't know. So you're a cheater.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
So you're cheating, and you still call the radio like
what the.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Audacity are trying to help you?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
But now I don't want to help you out because
now I feel like we're an accessory to a crime.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I still feel like if I could privately explain things
to you either, I really.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
Think, you know, we have a shot at making something work.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Why do you not so privately explain it to her?
Right now?

Speaker 4 (23:14):
He'll be quiet.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think we got along great.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
I don't think, you know, aspects of my personal life
have anything to do with with.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
The connection you and I have going on? Okay and
the public.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
I mean, this is a fun story, right this is
this is pretty fun, pretty goofy.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
I think this is the origin of, you know, something magical.
I'm just saying, I really feel like if you gave
me an there's a.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Future, there's a future that I see the future. I
wish you could see it too.

Speaker 10 (23:42):
I'll just leave it up that the life is short
and you can't let the life you have get in
the way of the life you should or the wife
you should be with.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know that's you're discussing.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's I don't think, Oh my god, feel sad, right,
I just it's like it's the it's the balls on
you man to like, and not in a good way.
That's not a compliment to call the radio knowing that
you're having an affair. You're cheating on your wife and
your family, trying to straighten things out publicly with another

(24:14):
woman who also didn't know about this, and there is
no explanation, there is no modern day relationship sort of
terms here. You're you have admitted now to all of
us that you are cheating and and right sloppy.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I mean it sounds like you just said I had
big balls, which I take a compliment. Man. You know,
you know, are we hearing narcissism? Are we hearing you like?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Well?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know, man, man, I heard that compliment.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I know that I'm not complimenting you. I'm game recognizes game. No, No,
I don't RECOGNO. I don't play this game, not on
purpose at least so. Look, Heather, it's a rhetorical question,
but I'll still ask. I'm sorry that you were.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Here's the thing like, by doing this to her, you're
now involving her as an accomplice in your shenanigans. So
not only are her feelings hurt and does she feel
sort of violated, but now she's also sort of in
the firing line when your wife Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey,
here's this and finds out what you're doing and she

(25:23):
didn't know anything about it. She because you're purport to
be a single man.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
Heather is completely innocent. Why do you think I didn't
tell her about.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
My wife's a today? Right? But she's completely in the clear.
She's fine. I made sure of that.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
But is that what your wife is going to think
when when she gets brought into this, when she eventually
finds out what you're up to.

Speaker 10 (25:41):
Her, her thoughts on the matter aren't too relevant, I
don't think to the said, you've.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Got another hard time, Heather. I'm so sorry that this is.
This is kind of what we all walked into here.
I wouldn't have helped him if I had known, none
of us would be, you know, cool with this, But
I don't even need to ask if you want another date.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
You don't want another date, absolutely not.

Speaker 13 (26:03):
I feel just so disgusted that I even gave this
guy a chance to beginning this. Like I must have
had too many drinks to be honest.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You're flirting with customers, You're bragging to coworkers about your
family photo shoot. You're lying about your family. You're on
the air saying that you don't care that they don't
get a vote in your activity.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
I mean, dude, I wasn't bragging about our family photo shoot.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
I was complaining about it.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
There's a big difference. All right, Oh, what is Kelsey's Instagram?

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I'm going to manage your haylove and know like I'm second.
Don't worry, I'll get it off.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, this guy check out the iHeartRadio app for some
information that might be of value to you. All right, Heather,
I'm sorry, and now you have all the info and
obviously you can move forward away from him. Sam, I
don't know what to tell you, man, I don't I
don't like any part of this.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Her loss. She has my number if and when she
changes her mind.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, you keep working by the phone, brow because
I don't think she will be calling you, Heather.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Good luck to you. Yeah, he can get over himself.
Thank you. Caitlin's Entertainer report. He's on the Fread show.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I told you yesterday how.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Ashley Tisdale and I want to explain who she is
because Jason was very offended. But actress wrote an essay
about leaving what she called a toxic group of celebrity
mom friends and it seems like the internet is just obsessed.
But in this group, notably Mandy Moore, Hillary Duff, Meghan Trainer,
and a couple others. And while she didn't come out
and say in this article that she actually wrote back

(27:32):
in December for the cut, but it became it's starting
to go viral, and she never named names, but she said,
I do feel like none of them are bad people
except for maybe one. And so I did some digging
for you guys, and I told you that she unfollowed
both Mandy and Hillary and between the two, Jason's guest
was that Hillary Duff may have.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Been the toxic one.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Well, you may have nailed it, because then yesterday on
his Instagram store, Hillary Duff's husband, do you have a
graph friend, Matthew Coma posted a photo of himself photoshopped
onto Ashley's body.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I writ you being a illustrator for me on the
screen so I can see it like a sporting event.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
This is great.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, So one of the toxic moms quote unquote, allegedly
her husband posted a photo photoshopped onto Ashley's body. In
the photo, he's sitting on a couch next to a
house plan. He's wearing this like all black outfit with
these rose tinted sunglasses. And he added The Cut's logo,
which is who Ashley wrote the article for, and a
fictional headline he wrote, when You're the most self obsessed,

(28:36):
tone deaf person on earth. Other moms tend to shift
focus to their actual toddlers, and the sub headline read
a mom group tell all through a father's eyes.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Read my interview with at the Cut.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
He captioned it, So, now not only has a husband
entered this weird like mom group drama, but also you
pretty much said it was your wife.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Right yeah, because he identified Hillary?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Why you so offended by this article?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:05):
So it's giving real caddy.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
I don't think that Hillary or Ashley rather has responded yet,
as far as i've seen, but is weird when the
hub even on Real Housewives, I'm like the husband's I
don't know why you getting in there? While did He
is in prison serving his fifty month federal sentence. Obviously,
some people who used to work for him say they're
having trouble getting paid.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
I am shocked.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
They say that his business management firm, not his family,
is controlling his money, which Kaki.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Didn't we hear it was his mom he was controlling
the money.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
She's still maybe, but these staffers and attorneys say that
he hasn't been paying for anybody on his team while
he's in prison, which you should pay people because remember
that's how fifty cent obtained all that footage.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
People start getting their consideration. Then all of a sudden
they start talking.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Right, and now I'm reporting it.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
So you know, Curtis Jackson, if you're listening, go get
those employees and make a part too, man.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Because I took one law school class one day. But
I'll tell you, you stop getting paid and then agreements start,
you know, not applying anymore, because there's if you're not
getting paid, then I don't really have to hold in
my part of a deal either.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Count Well, I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I would depend how it's written, I'm sure, but my
guess would be, you know, normally, and again not an attorney,
but my understanding about contracts are I have to get
something in order for you to get something, and if
I stop getting something, then I would imagine I would
have a good case for them sort of. I don't
know forgetting about the agreements because you didn't do your part,
so what I have to do my part? Again, not

(30:33):
an attorney, I'm sure's an attorney who will tell me differently.
But that's what happened with the videographer. Was he first
of all, why are you letting someone follow you around
with a camera and a recording device in the midst
of a criminal investigation and trial?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Wild and somebody else.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
My attorney friend was telling me last night that if
if I let me make sure I get this right,
even the conversations with his attorney, if he agreed to
be recorded, are no longer privileged. So like the stuff
that we saw would normally you could argue, well, that
was privileged conversation like you got you know, you can't
put this about it, which means it would have been
admissible in court if the prosecution had known about it

(31:15):
at the time. So anyway, this whole thing is a mess,
and you got to pay people, especially people who are
keeping you're a secret.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
He should be paying his employees.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
So I thought that was very interesting, Like little tidbit there, Kikey,
are you okay?

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Brace yourself?

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban officially divorced legally single, ending
that nineteen year marriage.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
One of really broke you up last year? Really did?

Speaker 8 (31:37):
Man?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
They made me believe in love. You know those two
made you believe in love.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yes, that's a lot.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
Yeah, boot cut jeans and you know, their hair and stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, you could love a guy like that with his rhinestones. Then, yeah,
I do believe that.

Speaker 13 (31:55):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
She yeah, and she I think one that she looks
really good and has a lot going on. But it's official,
and I'm sorry, Kiki, and really quick before we close out.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
We're running out of time.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
But I've been, you know, talking about things I've watched
and recommending them.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Well, a ton of.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
People on the text have been sharing stuff as well.
The Ripple is the one that we're getting the most.
I think it's on Netflix. I have no idea, but
everyone's recommending that. And then Apparently there's a new cult
documentary behind the Killer, the Andrea Yates Story, which people
are also recommending. If you are a new friend of
ours maybe and you want to follow us on social
you can do so. Fred Show Radio on Instagram, the

(32:31):
Fred Show TikTok, Fred Show Radio on YouTube, the Fred
Show on demand on the iHeart app And is that
all do we have a LinkedIn?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I have to look at my brain in order to
spit out all the stuff that all the different places.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
My dad goes. I just have a little tidbit of
advice for you. I go what he goes.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
You look up when you're trying to find things. And
I'm like, Okay, didn't ask for that criticism, but I.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Have to look at my brain. I have to look
at my brain to see what's in there sometimes.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
He actually said that after my TV appearance, and I
was like, thinks I wasn't asking, But so I.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's a talent coach.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's right, right, I said.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
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Game show Wednesday is next. We'll do Shewby Shelley a
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gonna be pluttling up and then Kiki Karaoke Stars search theme.
Why because it's a show you may have never heard
of before, but it was big in the eighties and
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