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Speaker 1 (01:50):
Kiki's got one go yes, dear blog.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So I am trying to be a good sport, a
good friend in all the things, and support Kaylin in
her Halloween efforts.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
She has expressed that she plans to celebrate Halloween and
she would like for us to do it as a team,
and so I'm like, okay, I'm going to get on board.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm running into an issue though, because why are all
of the adult Halloween costumes sexy? Like can't wait, Like, who,
what's wrong with the world? Because I just want to
be a regular scarecrow or something. Looking up scarecrow costumes,
she got on three Uh what is his knee hat boot? Yeah,
(02:29):
she got on fish net stockings. Like what scarecrow?
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Is this that?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm okay?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Maybe I can be poison ivy. She has on an
evening gown with a V deep deep V cut.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'm like, what a yes?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Are all these costumes so sexy? Bro?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Can I just be a nurse? Like I just want
to be a nurse?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh no, no, you can't know. You certainly can't be
a nurse. No, that that one's not No, it has
to be sexy. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Every one of these costumes is sexy. I'm talking about
Super Mario, you know, I'm Batwoman, Daphne from Scooby Dude.
You know everybody is sexy, And can I just be Tinkerbelle?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm over this? Like can we?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't want to be sexy on Halloween. I just
want to be scary or like a little ugly costume.
Why are all of these costumes so sexy?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I think that's that's what Halloween has become.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I feel like it's become like, take whatever you want
to do and then make it sexy and then that's Halloween.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't want this, can I like even the referee
for it? Wonder Woman a baseball player? Why she got
on a two piece? I'm looking at super Woman's clappers.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't want to see this. It's so annoying.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And you know, I'm a fluffy, a fine woman, so
I need some coverage. You want to be out here
trigger treating with the kids and my thighs out and
it's just so much and I'm over it, like I'm
about I don't even know. Maybe I need to look
up the men costumes. Yeah, like why does Scooby Doo
have on like a like chap things that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's like a police officer costume, except you're wearing that
Kim Gardashian thong?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Why like why, oh my goodness, sexy Oscar the Grouse.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
We will make anything sexy. You did say you wanted
to be a man of some sort.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yes, I cannot just be a man because at this
point these costumes is it's just not giving what it's
supposed to give. I don't know where you're wearing these
costumes too, especially if you have children. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Sexy skunk.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow, I need to look this up. I need to
what it's like a black neglige with a tail or
something like.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What She's got a black tube dress on with some
fur and then she has like arm things but it's
a tiny dress and uh yeah, she's a sexy skunk.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
They've made the FedEx worker costume sexy like this is
getting out of hambro I can't be a construction worker.
I can't be a strawberry, you know, Arsen look at
butt pas and I don't know why we're doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So am I going to show up in a costume
on Friday at our live show and it's gonna just
be me.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm trying to work with you, but at this point
I might just dress up and spree it because any
other options unless I want to be half naked.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's cold down here.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, well I guess we know what what Calin's going
to be sexy skunk. I mean she laser focused on
that one.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So yeah, well I'm just wow, Plena, you love Lee,
I do.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I will be Michael Myers this year.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Okay, I got face mask?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh, I got it.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Yeah, I got the face mask and I got the
what is it?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's like a garage guy the jumpsuit. Yeah, like a
mechanic in a mechanic shop. Yeah, so don't want to
borrow that. I got you, guys. I also have chunky.
I got it all.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And it's either sexy or it's like wildly inappropriate. I
feel like, for example, you can get a breathalyzer costume,
but it has the breathalyzer thing like for a guy
like down there, see and like you do walk around
with that like why, like it's not necessary?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean, sexy corn on the cob, Jason, look at this?
Corn leads for.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Like the bedroom because I'm the link sexy corn.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We've been maybe for two years, you know we Yeah, let.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Me tell you when I see it. When I see
a corn on the cob, that's what I know, it's time.
It's it's definitely time.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Uh none, costume, Wait till I see you a picture
of this?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Not a sexy Yeah, isn't that an oxymoron?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sexy?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
None?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's stay or go all right? Uh? Julian, Julian, how
are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So this is stair go and people hit us up
on all the various social platforms. Fret your radio, Frets
your radio dot com. You can just send us a
d M let us know what you think. Every every
day on every Tuesday, I should say, we we have
folks on and then we hear you're, your situation, your scenario,
and then we talk about you behind your back.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's basically what this segment is. So what's going on
with this guy?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
This is a guy that you recently were asked out
by and you're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But there's a problem, so he explained.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Yeah, so recently, I've been talking to this guy that
I'm really really interested.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
He's so cool, very sweet, very down to earth, my
kind of guy. He's like the male version of me,
which I think is really really cool.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
He's great, if I do say so myself. He's a
lot of these basically just like me, which is why
I like him so much. Okay, all right, fine.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
We've been talking, we've been flirting. I'm so into it.
But the second he asked me out, I kind of panicked.
And the reason I panicked is because about sometime last year,
for about three months, I was casually hooking up with
his friend. But it was just hooking up. I never
(08:06):
dated his friend. It was you know, every time we
wanted to do something, we would just do it and
then that was it. It was more like friends with benefits.
That's the best way I could describe that as friends
with benefits.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
And the guy that I'm currently about to go out
with doesn't know that, and I don't know if I
should you know, tell him before we go out, which
could possibly ruin everything, or if I should just keep
it to myself and gofa that the friend tells him,
and then the guy that I'm seeing might say to me, well,
(08:43):
why didn't you tell me that earlier? I had to
hear it from him, so that puts me in an
awkward position. Or should I just abort the whole mission
before it even starts and just.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, be like whatever, No, I have a few questions.
That's not my happiness, you know, right, But I have
a few questions. So this was hooking up.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
There was there was no you didn't you weren't in love,
you weren't dating, There was no really death to it.
It was just it was what it was. It was
surface correct, Yeah, okay, And then how close are these guys, they're.
Speaker 10 (09:16):
Best friend since childhood, they met in elementary school.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh great, and I think he know, he probably knows.
How do you know for a fact he doesn't know?
I mean, because like I don't know, I know who
my best friends are getting with for the most parts,
and I can tell you that if my best friend
pops up with a girl that I hooked up with, uh,
you know, more than once or twice even maybe, then
I probably would say something to them because I don't
(09:42):
want them to feel like they don't have the information
from me. So but okay, So what makes you think
he doesn't know?
Speaker 10 (09:50):
I mean, he's never brought it up to mean.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Is that something you're like, Hey, you know, I love
that you slept with my friend for three months, Like
I love that about you, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It would be a strange thing to bring up, But
like I guess, if I saw something going where somewhere
with someone more serious and I knew about this, I
might I might let them know that I knew and
didn't mind, because I would imagine that if roles were reversed,
that I would be focused on this and I would
be worried about it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's a fair point. That is a fair point.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
But I feel like if it were me and another
woman and maybe she was going out with somebody else
and we were best friends.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I feel like she would say something like that to me.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
Maybe it's just because her guys, but I mean, I
don't know, like I would bring it up to her,
like if she was going to date a guy that
I was messing with, and maybe she didn't know, but
maybe she would know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I think the more important part here is that you
want to date this guy. You like him more than
you liked other people. You like him more than you
like the guy you were hooking up with. It was
a year ago you said something like that. Last year
is what you said. So I think ultimately the question
that we should all be focused on is how do
you make it work with this guy without him feeling blindsided?
(11:13):
And wouldn't you guys agree? Maybe you don't, but eight
five five five nine one three five I would love
to know what people have to say. You can call him,
text the same number, but it's almost like, maybe you do.
You get this on the table now, you know, and
you'd be like, hey, his head's up, Like I like you.
I'd like to, you know, like to see where this goes.
I just want to be fully transparent, you know, because
it's this other person's a part of your life, and
I know we're going to come into contact with him
(11:34):
probably and hang out with him or whatever. I did
hook up with him last year and it didn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It was it was what it was.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I didn't know you, and I just want to be
transparent because that sort of removes the taboo from this.
And if the guy freaks out, then that may say
something about how this was going to go down the
road anyway, or maybe he's like, yeah, I don't love it,
but you know, I like you. I'd like to see
where this goes. You didn't know me, so I mean
that would be kind of the fair thing to do
(12:01):
would be to be like, hey, I don't I don't
have to like this, but I also we didn't know
each other then, so so be it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah. I think I like that idea a lot.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Just lay it out from see what he says, see
how it takes it. I think it's better to be
transparent and before starting a relationship with anybody, whether it's
a friendship or a relationship, a partnership.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So I like that because if you don't say anything
and then he finds out down the road, I guess, well, well,
it's still not fair for him to judge you based on,
you know, what you guys share together, based on what
you've done in the past before you knew him. I
guess I could make the argument like, why didn't you
tell me?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Like?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
What is?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What is there not to know? Kiki? That's what you think?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Oh for sure? Like, and I would also be mad
at my friend. Yeah, if he knows that I'm hooking
up with this new girl and you and him have
this secret behind my back, I don't care how long,
how long ago it was. I feel like somebody in
this situation should be honest with him.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Is it more the friend, that's a good question, you know,
or is it on her?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I wonder, Well, they're the ones who are going to
be dating.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So I suppose you could establish you know, the air
of or not the error that you're being transparent, right,
and again, you like this guy, you haven't known him
that long and hasn't progressed that far. I think now
would be the time to say this to him. And again,
if he's like man, I don't love that, but that's okay.
Let's see where this goes. Or that's cool, I get it,
(13:30):
you know, that's then fine. But if he freaks out
on you, I can't believe this. I could never be
with you whatever. Imagine what's going to happen if in
three or four months or six months, when there are
emotions involved and feelings, then everyone's gonna be really hurt
by this. It's going to be catastrophic. Yeah, but let
me take some phone calls on this street. Let's see
what other people I have to say.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Paulina, what you're doing over there?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
You guys love giving your power away and it really
kills me.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I hate to see you.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You guys know how I feel when there's a fight
or something happens.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Because like you might screw up. You need that AMMO
in your pocket. I've Helena know this is so unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is so it is so unhealthy, Polana, to hang
onto these nuggets so that you can deeply cut someone
when you feel like it. It's so selfish and so wrong.
I love you so much. That is such an awful
thing to do. It's harbor, harbor incriminating information, things that
you know will cut deep so that you can just
(14:28):
win the argument in the moment, because you do realize
one of these times, and I don't wish this upon you, Paulina,
but one of these times you're gonna bust out with
this horrible thing and it's gonna do irreparable damage.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, I'm working on it. I am in therapy.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
My up it to twice a week at this point because.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
But I only say that because people like to. I
don't know how to say it. Like people want to
always like come with it right, like, oh, I got you,
But it's like, no, I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You get what I'm saying. You have to like be.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Get each other, Like we have to auge the level
of arguments that we're getting. Not every argument is a war.
Not every time you disagree, do you need to be
armed with a nuclear weapon. I mean it's like sometimes
sometimes people just you disagree and like you move past it.
But what you're never gonna move past is when it's
(15:16):
like you never wash the dishes, Paulina. Yeah, you know what,
and I bang your best friend. You know you're right,
that's how it would go. Yeah, the big stuff you
don't want to use it for anything, because the objective
shouldn't be to just absolutely destroy the person that you're
arguing with if you love them. I mean maybe if
you have no intention of reconciliation. But this is I
(15:40):
don't know. Let me take some phone costs, Julianne, have
a good day. Yeah, you gotta hurt you. Oh, No
one needs to hurt you. You don't need to hurt
the people. You don't need to be hanging on with this.
I hate the fact that you harbor this stuff because
I think, unfortunately, Paulina, that this could really backfire in
a way that is is gonna hurt you worse.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And I don't want that to happen to you.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And I'm not like trying to hurt people, but I'm
saying like, hey, you know, my boyfriend whatever in this
situation cheats on me or something like I'm talking like crazy,
I'm not talking about the dishes or the laundry.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Like something big. Then I think it's always good to
have that animal. You have to be ahead of people
in this world. Why are you assuming he's going to shat?
What if he doesn't chat? I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He probably won't like just like a liar holding something
in that you weren't like open about.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Well, if it's like something I would use later, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why Why are you holding onto things too? Why I
don't I don't like How about the FA If someone
hurts you, that's awful. You don't have to you don't
have to cut decapitate them back.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't. And then again like I don't like it.
I don't like it at all. It's so toxicy, it's
so toxic. I know. I don't like it. Pete, don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I say this only from the perspective of my care
for you, because I do think you'll find you want
to cut people and you want that, you want to
blow them up. That's fine, that's your right. I only
really care about you in this scenario. But I'm telling
you I feel like this is the kind of thing
that backfires or if someone does it to you, you'd
be devastated. And yet this is your practice. I don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Hey, Tay, Hey, Hi, good morning. What do you think
I think?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Person off?
Speaker 11 (17:19):
Paulina?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You're hilarious, But I do agree with Fred. But with
that girl, I'm sure the friend the guy already knows
that you've been sleeping with his friend, and like I
said earlier, you should just tell him and we're adults,
like it happens whatever. But it also might be that
(17:40):
he already knows that you were sleeping with his friend,
and his friend is like, hey, go try that out.
Like I'm telling you she's she's doing some work over there.
And yeah, now you're like you're trying not to hurt him,
and like Paulina, he's gonna pull out the bag, like, hey,
I already.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Knew you know it's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is like me if a guy said that, if one
of my buddies said that to me, like when I
first met someone, like, dude, you need to go there
because like that that lady does, she does this one thing,
you know what I mean, Like that's funny, But that's funny,
or maybe that's okay when I first meet the person,
But then what if I wind up marrying that person
and then that dude standing next to me at my
wedding and that's the same guy that two years ago
(18:22):
told me about the thing she does with her left hand,
and it's like no, like I don't need to know that.
You know that that's not good information for me to
have long term.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well, then that's when you meet Paul Leiner's method of
you gotta have them to pull out on him, like, hey, no, no,
I try to do a thing, but your mom be
a tad.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Mom. Keep my mom's name out of your mouth. I
have a good day day. I'm so scared.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
God, people, you guys are ruthless, Like when did I?
I am not the most sensitive human being, but like,
come on, like that is not a good way to operate.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Julie, Yes, hey for going. Good morning stire goo.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So this woman she called us because she met a
guy she likes, but last year she had a just
sort of a casual sexual relationship with his best friend,
and for her, it's like, well, I like the new guy,
but I don't know how much I should disclose because
I don't know if he knows or doesn't know, or
how it could impact the future and how things progress.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you think.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
I would ask the friend with benefits if he said anything,
Depending on what her relationship is with him now, I
would reach out and just ask him out right, hey
did you tell him? Because I want to date him
and I don't know if he knows that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know how i'd feel about that further communication
if if there was nothing there or nothing to hide,
like I almost feel like I'd rather you just tell
me and not involve him. But I suppose why not
just have the conversation between the two, because then it.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Really puts him on the spot. So if he does
know and it doesn't bother him, now it's awkward because you're.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (19:59):
It depends on how much and how long was she
with the guy the friends with benefits? Was this like
a one off or was this a round?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I said a few months to a couple of months,
I think is what she said. Yeah, so it was,
but she insists that there was nothing more.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
So right, but they had to have had some level
of friendship if they were hooking up on a regular
basis for several months. So I think i'd still reach
out and see where things you're at with him? Is
he dating somebody now? Has he said anything?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
I would I would want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Before fair enough, Thank you, Julie, no problem.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I hate to say this would bother me, but it
would And that's not mature of me, because everybody has
a past, including me. But I wouldn't love it, and
it I want to believe that it wouldn't stand in
the way of the person that I'm supposed to be with,
But I wouldn't love it. I would not love the
fact that my best friend knows what I know and
that this could be the person that I'm with forever
(20:56):
that I cherish the most and and I share that
with him.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't love it. Yeah, that's honest,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But I think I think that's a little bit immature
because again, like you could go through my inventory and
find things you don't like either, if you chose to,
but I didn't know you then, So hey, Kylie Ki,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hi Kylie, what do you think stare go?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
She should say, but she really needs to communicate that
with you know, the student too, hopefully soon to be boyfriend.
I actually met my boyfriend on the dating app, and
on our first date, he kind of let me know
that he was still close with a lot of friends
he actually met on the apps that just they didn't
work out, but you know, they were still talking and
hanging out and we've been together for four years and
(21:41):
we're still you know, a part of that friend group.
So I think that the communication is just really key.
She just needs to tell him and if he really
likes her, I mean he'll choose d you know, be
in a relationship with her.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah sure, yeah yeah, fair enough, good advice. Thank you,
have a good day.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
All Right, I don't know final say Kiki, tell him,
don't tell him. Man, I'm thinking about what Paulina said.
We might need to have some ammost you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Guys stop it. But well, you guys, I started to
sound like Cayman. Now, now you guys, knock it off. Yeah, now,
you guys, that is the wrong thing to do. I
got a text right when I started talking. It made
me laugh, like I need to put my phone away
when we're doing this program. It's too distracting from me.
(22:32):
Like I'm getting real time commentary on people. I got
people texting me now going uh, since when did you
become the moral police.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm like, I'm not the role police. I just say it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't you know what it is. It's that my mom,
my mom, who I love more than anything. She fights
that way where she waits, she holds onto the bomb
and then she'll she'll drop the bomb when she's losing
the argument and wants it to be over, and then
she'll say the thing you know, and you're like ah,
and then you're you know, you're paralyzed. You can't do anything,
and it's like this tastes a terrible way to fight
(23:02):
because then you have to undo the thing that you
said before you get back to the issue, which is
why I don't like to get like a knockdown drag
ass with people. And people call that in the fight
or flight argument. They call that the flight, but I
they do yeah, well, but I mean people are like, well,
you're you're a guy. You run from arguments, you don't
like conflicts, Like, no, I'll do the conflict, but I'm
(23:22):
really mad. I don't understand what we have to just
scream at each other because and just say whatever comes
to mind, because then it's like, okay, Then when we
finally you're reconvene, then we got to talk about all
the stuff that we said that had nothing to do
with the fight and get past that and then address
the fight, which was probably about a fork and the
sink or something, you know, And then it's like, yeah,
(23:43):
but you remember when you slept with so much, and
it's like, oh ah, and then you got to undo that,
you know. And maybe the point is that you're never
gonna undo it depending on what you say. But maybe
you want to be able to do undo it, but
you can't.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You gotta fight fair, is what I always try and say.
It's not easy, but it's certainly a good tool to have.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's what Caitlyn always says. She's always said, I do
like you going when you go to her house. She's
got one of those in this house things we fight fair.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh yeah, incursive yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's got it
from epsy.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Next, yeah, right, that one. I want to welcome a
very famous special guest. Her name is Caitlin. Good morning, Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Good morning. Now, Caitlin.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
People might know you because you have gone wildly viral
in the last I don't know how what has it
been forty eight seventy two hours. It's just a few
days since you became since and people don't necessarily know
what I'm talking about yet, but I mean, this has
been what less than a week?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Right, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Been since Friday, so just a few days.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So Caitlyn is Lila's mom and Lilah is two years old.
And you've probably heard of this, of this duo because
Taylor Swift donated one hundred thousand dollars to your GoFundMe
for your daughter who is battling a rare form of
brain cancer stage four. But this, this is the mom
and daughter duo that you've been hearing about that's gone viral.
(25:11):
So first of all, we're wishing the best Tolilah. And
I understand she had surgery and now she's going through
some treatment. But what's the most importantly what is the prognosis, Like,
what's the outlook?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Oh so well, thank you for praying for us and
thinking about us. The prognosis isn't the greatest our. Doctors
don't really like to talk about it too much because
it's you know, it brings us down. But she has
about a forty percent survival of the next five years.
Over the next two years is when her chances of
(25:45):
death are like way higher. The most deaths occur in
the first two years of diagnosis, so the odds are
not in our favor at this moment.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But it's why you know, you having the resources that
you need to get the best care for Lilah are
so important, which I'm sure is where the gofund me
came from. And so Taylor saw the video of your
little girl singing along to a song and saying that
that was her friend.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That's how this all started, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
It all started with Sila. She's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, so you listened to Taylor while you were pregnant
with her, and so you're saying, I've read that she
is a Swiftie from birth. But how did the video
come about? What did she say? And then when did
you find out that Taylor had donated?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, so the video.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Started because I was just listening to Taylor's new album
and Lyla heard it and she says, that's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Mom.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I was like, oh, see it is, and she's like,
I really want to listen to it. So I set
up the iPad for her on the new music video
for her, and I just heard filming because I film
everything she does, and she's just dancing along and out
of nowhere, she looks at the video of Taylor and
she goes, that's my friend, and it kind of took
me by surprise. I didn't realize what she said. I'm like,
(26:57):
did you just say she's your friend. He's like yeah,
and it just went viral from there. Everyone started tagging Taylor.
I didn't expect anything to come of it. I just
wanted to, you know, show Lila. And on Friday, my
husband called me up and he's like, Taylor Swift just
gave us one hundred thousand dollars. Like that's how he
opened the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Wow, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So so she must have seen the video then, and
it is the cutest video. Leila is a beautiful little girl.
And and so that was I think it was what
and it's sixty thousand of one hundred thousand, that was
your goal, I believe if I have that right. And
then she donated one hundred thousand dollars and then since
then Swift Tisa started to donate and as of this morning,
he was like at three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, right, correct.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yeah, So our goal I think was a right around
sixty thousand, and we had a little bit over fifty
rays before Taylor donated. Once she donated, like, we were
just blown away. I didn't think anything more would come
of it. And then the Swifties have almost doubled her
donation now in less than forty eight hours, and it
has been insane.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And I did see you online yesterday, and I hate
that you even have to address this, Caitlin, but you
gotta love the internet, and I say that fantastically. Everyone's
got to have an opinion. And so you obviously have
blown past your goal by a lot, and there's been
a lot of generosity out there, and this has all
(28:26):
happened so quickly. But I saw that you made a
video and I hate that you even had to make
it addressing the people who are saying, well, are you
going to give this money to other people? First of all,
I think you should be able to process this. Second
of all, and you made this point and our show
we in the Chicagoland area, We work with a lot
of different organizations who deal with children with pediatric cancer.
(28:47):
And you have no idea the resources that you will need.
And you were given this blessing of over three hundred
thousand dollars and I'm sure that you'll find a way
to pay it forward, but you might need that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
And the thing is is that we don't know how
much treatment's going to cost at the end of all
of this, and we don't know what treatment she's going
to need surpass what we're doing already. I know that
our insurance has been built at least a million dollars
for only one round us one of sure five that
she has gone through, So I know that it costs
a lot, and I don't know how much is covered.
(29:22):
We don't have a bill at the beginning, right. It
takes months for insurance to process things. So when we
started our GoFundMe, we don't like asking for things. We're
very you know, prideful people. We didn't want to ask
for help. So we actually originally started our gofunding with
achul of five thousand dollars because you're like, well, we
don't know what we need. That will probably help us
just we'll see, like food and groceries while we're going
(29:44):
through this, And while our community rallied behind us and
supported us, and we realized how many more expenses it
was going to be, we slowly started raising it and
we just kind of capted at sixty but it wasn't
because that's how much we needed.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
That was just what we were comfortable, you know, like asking.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Or we don't want to be trying to ask for
too much. We don't want to take advantage of anyone,
but treatment in itself, like we don't know how much
the cost is.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, so you have far surpassed your goal, and Taylor
helped you do it, and the swiftiest helps you do it.
But I mean the idea that you don't have to
justify to anybody what you do with this money or
how much you I don't think people have any idea
to your point, how much it costs to fight this,
and you know, the travel that you may incur, or
(30:30):
the specialists that you may visit, or who knows, maybe
somewhere across the world they have a better solution for Lilah,
your daughter, and if and now you have the resources
to be able to do that. And I'm certain that
not only are you raising awareness right now, but I
think also I'm sure you'll find a way to pay
it for it. But I saw you yesterday having to
justify this, and I hated to see it because I
(30:51):
don't think you should have to worry about that.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah, thank you. It's we are eventually going to do something.
We have tons of like, even if it's not a money,
terry thing. We are going to pay it forward and
someway once we are in that position to do so.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You take your blessing, just focus on that little one
and get through this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, of course, And this is Caitlin and her daughter.
Lylah is the two year old in the viral video
that you've probably seen. Taylor Swift donated one hundred thousand
dollars to the campaign. Now, I don't know if I've
read this or not, but have you heard from Taylor
directly in any way since all of this, I'll be
aside from one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
No, we haven't heard anything from Taylor, nor do I
expect to a lot of people keep saying, oh my gosh,
you're totally going to meet her. I have no expectation
for her to ever say anything. She has blessed our family.
She has done more than enough and more than I
could ever even imagine.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, well, look we all we wish you the best.
We wish Lyah the best. Such a beautiful little girl
in an amazing story. And you know, people are going
to say what they want about Taylor and about the Swifties,
but she is generous and she is thoughtful, and she
does step up, and so does her fan base. I'm
surprised they have any money left, by the way, after
buying all all.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
The stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, but we hope to keep in touch of there's
anything that we can do here to help you, please
let us know. And obviously wishing you and your family
the very best, and thanks for taking the time to
talk to us.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Of course, all us to you.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, be strong, have a great morning, and we will
post the uh, we'll post that video if we haven't already,
and then let's post the GoFundMe too if anybody wants
to help out in any way there as well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I mean, what an amazing story.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And and the strength of that mom, you know, to
be able to tell the story over and over again.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And of course the internet has got an internet. Stop it, guys,
stop interneting.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yes, yeah, I mean that's If that doesn't show where
we're at in our world, I don't know what does.
She does not need to defend or explain her blessing.
She's going through probably the worst thing that a family
or a person can go through, so knock it off where.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Does Yeah, yeah, And you know, in Chicagoland we work
with Cal's Angels. We've worked with which is an organization
that that that is in place to help families who
are battling pediatric cancer. And over the years, I've learned
so much about how little research and how little treatment
there is, and how little attention pediatric cancer gets and
how expensive. Ronald McDonald House another organization that we work
(33:16):
with that's providing, you know, a place for people to
live while they're seeking treatment. Across the country and across
the world. I mean, these are there's just so many
aspects of this that people don't think about. How much
is the treatment, how much will insurance cover? How much
of that battle are you going to win? If you've
ever tried to fight the insurance company. You know, do
you have access to experimental treatment to save your kid's life,
(33:36):
how much is that gonna cost?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
You have a queer job, you know to be with
the kid?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, right where where is this treatment taking place?
Is it is it down the street, is it in
a different city, is it a different part of the country.
How much is it going to cost to get there?
You know, is it in a different part of the world.
So unfortunately she she will probably need all of that money,
and obviously we're wishing them the very best Showbizhelle a
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
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Speaker 4 (01:53):
So I am trying to be a good sport, a
good friend in all the things, and support Kaylin in
her Halloween efforts.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
She has expressed that she plans to celebrate Halloween and
she would like for us to do it as a team,
and so I'm like, okay, I'm going to get on board.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm running into an issue though, because why are all
of the adult Halloween costumes sexy? Like can't wait, Like, who,
what's wrong with the world? Because I just want to
be a regular scarecrow or something. Looking up scarecrow costumes,
she got on three Uh what is his knee hat boot? Yeah,
(02:29):
she got on fish net stockings. Like what scarecrow?
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Is this that?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm okay?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Maybe I can be poison ivy. She has on an
evening gown with a V deep deep V cut.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'm like, what a yes?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Are all these costumes so sexy? Bro?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Can I just be a nurse? Like I just want
to be a nurse?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh no, no, you can't know. You certainly can't be
a nurse. No, that that one's not No, it has
to be sexy. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Every one of these costumes is sexy. I'm talking about
Super Mario, you know, I'm Batwoman, Daphne from Scooby Dude.
You know everybody is sexy, And can I just be Tinkerbelle?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm over this? Like can we?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't want to be sexy on Halloween. I just
want to be scary or like a little ugly costume.
Why are all of these costumes so sexy?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I think that's that's what Halloween has become.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I feel like it's become like, take whatever you want
to do and then make it sexy and then that's Halloween.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't want this, can I like even the referee
for it? Wonder Woman a baseball player? Why she got
on a two piece? I'm looking at super Woman's clappers.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't want to see this. It's so annoying.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And you know, I'm a fluffy, a fine woman, so
I need some coverage. You want to be out here
trigger treating with the kids and my thighs out and
it's just so much and I'm over it, like I'm
about I don't even know. Maybe I need to look
up the men costumes. Yeah, like why does Scooby Doo
have on like a like chap things that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's like a police officer costume, except you're wearing that
Kim Gardashian thong?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Why like why, oh my goodness, sexy Oscar the Grouse.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
We will make anything sexy. You did say you wanted
to be a man of some sort.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yes, I cannot just be a man because at this
point these costumes is it's just not giving what it's
supposed to give. I don't know where you're wearing these
costumes too, especially if you have children. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Sexy skunk.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow, I need to look this up. I need to
what it's like a black neglige with a tail or
something like.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What She's got a black tube dress on with some
fur and then she has like arm things but it's
a tiny dress and uh yeah, she's a sexy skunk.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
They've made the FedEx worker costume sexy like this is
getting out of hambro I can't be a construction worker.
I can't be a strawberry, you know, Arsen look at
butt pas and I don't know why we're doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So am I going to show up in a costume
on Friday at our live show and it's gonna just
be me.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm trying to work with you, but at this point
I might just dress up and spree it because any
other options unless I want to be half naked.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's cold down here.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, well I guess we know what what Calin's going
to be sexy skunk. I mean she laser focused on
that one.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So yeah, well I'm just wow, Plena, you love Lee,
I do.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I will be Michael Myers this year.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Okay, I got face mask?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh, I got it.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Yeah, I got the face mask and I got the
what is it?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's like a garage guy the jumpsuit. Yeah, like a
mechanic in a mechanic shop. Yeah, so don't want to
borrow that. I got you, guys. I also have chunky.
I got it all.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And it's either sexy or it's like wildly inappropriate. I
feel like, for example, you can get a breathalyzer costume,
but it has the breathalyzer thing like for a guy
like down there, see and like you do walk around
with that like why, like it's not necessary?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean, sexy corn on the cob, Jason, look at this?
Corn leads for.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Like the bedroom because I'm the link sexy corn.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We've been maybe for two years, you know we Yeah, let.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Me tell you when I see it. When I see
a corn on the cob, that's what I know, it's time.
It's it's definitely time.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Uh none, costume, Wait till I see you a picture
of this?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Not a sexy Yeah, isn't that an oxymoron?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sexy?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
None?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's stay or go all right? Uh? Julian, Julian, how
are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So this is stair go and people hit us up
on all the various social platforms. Fret your radio, Frets
your radio dot com. You can just send us a
d M let us know what you think. Every every
day on every Tuesday, I should say, we we have
folks on and then we hear you're, your situation, your scenario,
and then we talk about you behind your back.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's basically what this segment is. So what's going on
with this guy?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
This is a guy that you recently were asked out
by and you're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But there's a problem, so he explained.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Yeah, so recently, I've been talking to this guy that
I'm really really interested.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
He's so cool, very sweet, very down to earth, my
kind of guy. He's like the male version of me,
which I think is really really cool.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
He's great, if I do say so myself. He's a
lot of these basically just like me, which is why
I like him so much. Okay, all right, fine.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
We've been talking, we've been flirting. I'm so into it.
But the second he asked me out, I kind of panicked.
And the reason I panicked is because about sometime last year,
for about three months, I was casually hooking up with
his friend. But it was just hooking up. I never
(08:06):
dated his friend. It was you know, every time we
wanted to do something, we would just do it and
then that was it. It was more like friends with benefits.
That's the best way I could describe that as friends
with benefits.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
And the guy that I'm currently about to go out
with doesn't know that, and I don't know if I
should you know, tell him before we go out, which
could possibly ruin everything, or if I should just keep
it to myself and gofa that the friend tells him,
and then the guy that I'm seeing might say to me, well,
(08:43):
why didn't you tell me that earlier? I had to
hear it from him, so that puts me in an
awkward position. Or should I just abort the whole mission
before it even starts and just.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, be like whatever, No, I have a few questions.
That's not my happiness, you know, right, But I have
a few questions. So this was hooking up.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
There was there was no you didn't you weren't in love,
you weren't dating, There was no really death to it.
It was just it was what it was. It was
surface correct, Yeah, okay, And then how close are these guys, they're.
Speaker 10 (09:16):
Best friend since childhood, they met in elementary school.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh great, and I think he know, he probably knows.
How do you know for a fact he doesn't know?
I mean, because like I don't know, I know who
my best friends are getting with for the most parts,
and I can tell you that if my best friend
pops up with a girl that I hooked up with, uh,
you know, more than once or twice even maybe, then
I probably would say something to them because I don't
(09:42):
want them to feel like they don't have the information
from me. So but okay, So what makes you think
he doesn't know?
Speaker 10 (09:50):
I mean, he's never brought it up to mean.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Is that something you're like, Hey, you know, I love
that you slept with my friend for three months, Like
I love that about you, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It would be a strange thing to bring up, But
like I guess, if I saw something going where somewhere
with someone more serious and I knew about this, I
might I might let them know that I knew and
didn't mind, because I would imagine that if roles were reversed,
that I would be focused on this and I would
be worried about it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's a fair point. That is a fair point.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
But I feel like if it were me and another
woman and maybe she was going out with somebody else
and we were best friends.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I feel like she would say something like that to me.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
Maybe it's just because her guys, but I mean, I
don't know, like I would bring it up to her,
like if she was going to date a guy that
I was messing with, and maybe she didn't know, but
maybe she would know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I think the more important part here is that you
want to date this guy. You like him more than
you liked other people. You like him more than you
like the guy you were hooking up with. It was
a year ago you said something like that. Last year
is what you said. So I think ultimately the question
that we should all be focused on is how do
you make it work with this guy without him feeling blindsided?
(11:13):
And wouldn't you guys agree? Maybe you don't, but eight
five five five nine one three five I would love
to know what people have to say. You can call him,
text the same number, but it's almost like, maybe you do.
You get this on the table now, you know, and
you'd be like, hey, his head's up, Like I like you.
I'd like to, you know, like to see where this goes.
I just want to be fully transparent, you know, because
it's this other person's a part of your life, and
I know we're going to come into contact with him
(11:34):
probably and hang out with him or whatever. I did
hook up with him last year and it didn't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It was it was what it was.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I didn't know you, and I just want to be
transparent because that sort of removes the taboo from this.
And if the guy freaks out, then that may say
something about how this was going to go down the
road anyway, or maybe he's like, yeah, I don't love it,
but you know, I like you. I'd like to see
where this goes. You didn't know me, so I mean
that would be kind of the fair thing to do
(12:01):
would be to be like, hey, I don't I don't
have to like this, but I also we didn't know
each other then, so so be it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah. I think I like that idea a lot.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Just lay it out from see what he says, see
how it takes it. I think it's better to be
transparent and before starting a relationship with anybody, whether it's
a friendship or a relationship, a partnership.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So I like that because if you don't say anything
and then he finds out down the road, I guess, well, well,
it's still not fair for him to judge you based on,
you know, what you guys share together, based on what
you've done in the past before you knew him. I
guess I could make the argument like, why didn't you
tell me?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Like?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
What is?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What is there not to know? Kiki? That's what you think?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Oh for sure? Like, and I would also be mad
at my friend. Yeah, if he knows that I'm hooking
up with this new girl and you and him have
this secret behind my back, I don't care how long,
how long ago it was. I feel like somebody in
this situation should be honest with him.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Is it more the friend, that's a good question, you know,
or is it on her?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I wonder, Well, they're the ones who are going to
be dating.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So I suppose you could establish you know, the air
of or not the error that you're being transparent, right,
and again, you like this guy, you haven't known him
that long and hasn't progressed that far. I think now
would be the time to say this to him. And again,
if he's like man, I don't love that, but that's okay.
Let's see where this goes. Or that's cool, I get it,
(13:30):
you know, that's then fine. But if he freaks out
on you, I can't believe this. I could never be
with you whatever. Imagine what's going to happen if in
three or four months or six months, when there are
emotions involved and feelings, then everyone's gonna be really hurt
by this. It's going to be catastrophic. Yeah, but let
me take some phone calls on this street. Let's see
what other people I have to say.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Paulina, what you're doing over there?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
You guys love giving your power away and it really
kills me.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I hate to see you.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You guys know how I feel when there's a fight
or something happens.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Because like you might screw up. You need that AMMO
in your pocket. I've Helena know this is so unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is so it is so unhealthy, Polana, to hang
onto these nuggets so that you can deeply cut someone
when you feel like it. It's so selfish and so wrong.
I love you so much. That is such an awful
thing to do. It's harbor, harbor incriminating information, things that
you know will cut deep so that you can just
(14:28):
win the argument in the moment, because you do realize
one of these times, and I don't wish this upon you, Paulina,
but one of these times you're gonna bust out with
this horrible thing and it's gonna do irreparable damage.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, I'm working on it. I am in therapy.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
My up it to twice a week at this point because.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
But I only say that because people like to. I
don't know how to say it. Like people want to
always like come with it right, like, oh, I got you,
But it's like, no, I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You get what I'm saying. You have to like be.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Get each other, Like we have to auge the level
of arguments that we're getting. Not every argument is a war.
Not every time you disagree, do you need to be
armed with a nuclear weapon. I mean it's like sometimes
sometimes people just you disagree and like you move past it.
But what you're never gonna move past is when it's
(15:16):
like you never wash the dishes, Paulina. Yeah, you know what,
and I bang your best friend. You know you're right,
that's how it would go. Yeah, the big stuff you
don't want to use it for anything, because the objective
shouldn't be to just absolutely destroy the person that you're
arguing with if you love them. I mean maybe if
you have no intention of reconciliation. But this is I
(15:40):
don't know. Let me take some phone costs, Julianne, have
a good day. Yeah, you gotta hurt you. Oh, No
one needs to hurt you. You don't need to hurt
the people. You don't need to be hanging on with this.
I hate the fact that you harbor this stuff because
I think, unfortunately, Paulina, that this could really backfire in
a way that is is gonna hurt you worse.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And I don't want that to happen to you.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And I'm not like trying to hurt people, but I'm
saying like, hey, you know, my boyfriend whatever in this
situation cheats on me or something like I'm talking like crazy,
I'm not talking about the dishes or the laundry.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Like something big. Then I think it's always good to
have that animal. You have to be ahead of people
in this world. Why are you assuming he's going to shat?
What if he doesn't chat? I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He probably won't like just like a liar holding something
in that you weren't like open about.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Well, if it's like something I would use later, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why Why are you holding onto things too? Why I
don't I don't like How about the FA If someone
hurts you, that's awful. You don't have to you don't
have to cut decapitate them back.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't. And then again like I don't like it.
I don't like it at all. It's so toxicy, it's
so toxic. I know. I don't like it. Pete, don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I say this only from the perspective of my care
for you, because I do think you'll find you want
to cut people and you want that, you want to
blow them up. That's fine, that's your right. I only
really care about you in this scenario. But I'm telling
you I feel like this is the kind of thing
that backfires or if someone does it to you, you'd
be devastated. And yet this is your practice. I don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Hey, Tay, Hey, Hi, good morning. What do you think
I think?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Person off?
Speaker 11 (17:19):
Paulina?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You're hilarious, But I do agree with Fred. But with
that girl, I'm sure the friend the guy already knows
that you've been sleeping with his friend, and like I
said earlier, you should just tell him and we're adults,
like it happens whatever. But it also might be that
(17:40):
he already knows that you were sleeping with his friend,
and his friend is like, hey, go try that out.
Like I'm telling you she's she's doing some work over there.
And yeah, now you're like you're trying not to hurt him,
and like Paulina, he's gonna pull out the bag, like, hey,
I already.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Knew you know it's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is like me if a guy said that, if one
of my buddies said that to me, like when I
first met someone, like, dude, you need to go there
because like that that lady does, she does this one thing,
you know what I mean, Like that's funny, But that's funny,
or maybe that's okay when I first meet the person,
But then what if I wind up marrying that person
and then that dude standing next to me at my
wedding and that's the same guy that two years ago
(18:22):
told me about the thing she does with her left hand,
and it's like no, like I don't need to know that.
You know that that's not good information for me to
have long term.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well, then that's when you meet Paul Leiner's method of
you gotta have them to pull out on him, like, hey, no, no,
I try to do a thing, but your mom be
a tad.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Mom. Keep my mom's name out of your mouth. I
have a good day day. I'm so scared.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
God, people, you guys are ruthless, Like when did I?
I am not the most sensitive human being, but like,
come on, like that is not a good way to operate.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Julie, Yes, hey for going. Good morning stire goo.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So this woman she called us because she met a
guy she likes, but last year she had a just
sort of a casual sexual relationship with his best friend,
and for her, it's like, well, I like the new guy,
but I don't know how much I should disclose because
I don't know if he knows or doesn't know, or
how it could impact the future and how things progress.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you think.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
I would ask the friend with benefits if he said anything,
Depending on what her relationship is with him now, I
would reach out and just ask him out right, hey
did you tell him? Because I want to date him
and I don't know if he knows that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know how i'd feel about that further communication
if if there was nothing there or nothing to hide,
like I almost feel like I'd rather you just tell
me and not involve him. But I suppose why not
just have the conversation between the two, because then it.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Really puts him on the spot. So if he does
know and it doesn't bother him, now it's awkward because you're.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (19:59):
It depends on how much and how long was she
with the guy the friends with benefits? Was this like
a one off or was this a round?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I said a few months to a couple of months,
I think is what she said. Yeah, so it was,
but she insists that there was nothing more.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
So right, but they had to have had some level
of friendship if they were hooking up on a regular
basis for several months. So I think i'd still reach
out and see where things you're at with him? Is
he dating somebody now? Has he said anything?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
I would I would want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Before fair enough, Thank you, Julie, no problem.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I hate to say this would bother me, but it
would And that's not mature of me, because everybody has
a past, including me. But I wouldn't love it, and
it I want to believe that it wouldn't stand in
the way of the person that I'm supposed to be with,
But I wouldn't love it. I would not love the
fact that my best friend knows what I know and
that this could be the person that I'm with forever
(20:56):
that I cherish the most and and I share that
with him.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't love it. Yeah, that's honest,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But I think I think that's a little bit immature
because again, like you could go through my inventory and
find things you don't like either, if you chose to,
but I didn't know you then, So hey, Kylie Ki,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hi Kylie, what do you think stare go?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
She should say, but she really needs to communicate that
with you know, the student too, hopefully soon to be boyfriend.
I actually met my boyfriend on the dating app, and
on our first date, he kind of let me know
that he was still close with a lot of friends
he actually met on the apps that just they didn't
work out, but you know, they were still talking and
hanging out and we've been together for four years and
(21:41):
we're still you know, a part of that friend group.
So I think that the communication is just really key.
She just needs to tell him and if he really
likes her, I mean he'll choose d you know, be
in a relationship with her.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah sure, yeah yeah, fair enough, good advice. Thank you,
have a good day.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
All Right, I don't know final say Kiki, tell him,
don't tell him. Man, I'm thinking about what Paulina said.
We might need to have some ammost you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Guys stop it. But well, you guys, I started to
sound like Cayman. Now, now you guys, knock it off. Yeah, now,
you guys, that is the wrong thing to do. I
got a text right when I started talking. It made
me laugh, like I need to put my phone away
when we're doing this program. It's too distracting from me.
(22:32):
Like I'm getting real time commentary on people. I got
people texting me now going uh, since when did you
become the moral police.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm like, I'm not the role police. I just say it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't you know what it is. It's that my mom,
my mom, who I love more than anything. She fights
that way where she waits, she holds onto the bomb
and then she'll she'll drop the bomb when she's losing
the argument and wants it to be over, and then
she'll say the thing you know, and you're like ah,
and then you're you know, you're paralyzed. You can't do anything,
and it's like this tastes a terrible way to fight
(23:02):
because then you have to undo the thing that you
said before you get back to the issue, which is
why I don't like to get like a knockdown drag
ass with people. And people call that in the fight
or flight argument. They call that the flight, but I
they do yeah, well, but I mean people are like, well,
you're you're a guy. You run from arguments, you don't
like conflicts, Like, no, I'll do the conflict, but I'm
(23:22):
really mad. I don't understand what we have to just
scream at each other because and just say whatever comes
to mind, because then it's like, okay, Then when we
finally you're reconvene, then we got to talk about all
the stuff that we said that had nothing to do
with the fight and get past that and then address
the fight, which was probably about a fork and the
sink or something, you know, And then it's like, yeah,
(23:43):
but you remember when you slept with so much, and
it's like, oh ah, and then you got to undo that,
you know. And maybe the point is that you're never
gonna undo it depending on what you say. But maybe
you want to be able to do undo it, but
you can't.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You gotta fight fair, is what I always try and say.
It's not easy, but it's certainly a good tool to have.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's what Caitlyn always says. She's always said, I do
like you going when you go to her house. She's
got one of those in this house things we fight fair.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh yeah, incursive yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's got it
from epsy.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Next, yeah, right, that one. I want to welcome a
very famous special guest. Her name is Caitlin. Good morning, Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Good morning. Now, Caitlin.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
People might know you because you have gone wildly viral
in the last I don't know how what has it
been forty eight seventy two hours. It's just a few
days since you became since and people don't necessarily know
what I'm talking about yet, but I mean, this has
been what less than a week?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Right, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Been since Friday, so just a few days.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So Caitlyn is Lila's mom and Lilah is two years old.
And you've probably heard of this, of this duo because
Taylor Swift donated one hundred thousand dollars to your GoFundMe
for your daughter who is battling a rare form of
brain cancer stage four. But this, this is the mom
and daughter duo that you've been hearing about that's gone viral.
(25:11):
So first of all, we're wishing the best Tolilah. And
I understand she had surgery and now she's going through
some treatment. But what's the most importantly what is the prognosis, Like,
what's the outlook?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Oh so well, thank you for praying for us and
thinking about us. The prognosis isn't the greatest our. Doctors
don't really like to talk about it too much because
it's you know, it brings us down. But she has
about a forty percent survival of the next five years.
Over the next two years is when her chances of
(25:45):
death are like way higher. The most deaths occur in
the first two years of diagnosis, so the odds are
not in our favor at this moment.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But it's why you know, you having the resources that
you need to get the best care for Lilah are
so important, which I'm sure is where the gofund me
came from. And so Taylor saw the video of your
little girl singing along to a song and saying that
that was her friend.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That's how this all started, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
It all started with Sila. She's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, so you listened to Taylor while you were pregnant
with her, and so you're saying, I've read that she
is a Swiftie from birth. But how did the video
come about? What did she say? And then when did
you find out that Taylor had donated?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, so the video.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Started because I was just listening to Taylor's new album
and Lyla heard it and she says, that's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Mom.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I was like, oh, see it is, and she's like,
I really want to listen to it. So I set
up the iPad for her on the new music video
for her, and I just heard filming because I film
everything she does, and she's just dancing along and out
of nowhere, she looks at the video of Taylor and
she goes, that's my friend, and it kind of took
me by surprise. I didn't realize what she said. I'm like,
(26:57):
did you just say she's your friend. He's like yeah,
and it just went viral from there. Everyone started tagging Taylor.
I didn't expect anything to come of it. I just
wanted to, you know, show Lila. And on Friday, my
husband called me up and he's like, Taylor Swift just
gave us one hundred thousand dollars. Like that's how he
opened the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Wow, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So so she must have seen the video then, and
it is the cutest video. Leila is a beautiful little girl.
And and so that was I think it was what
and it's sixty thousand of one hundred thousand, that was
your goal, I believe if I have that right. And
then she donated one hundred thousand dollars and then since
then Swift Tisa started to donate and as of this morning,
he was like at three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, right, correct.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yeah, So our goal I think was a right around
sixty thousand, and we had a little bit over fifty
rays before Taylor donated. Once she donated, like, we were
just blown away. I didn't think anything more would come
of it. And then the Swifties have almost doubled her
donation now in less than forty eight hours, and it
has been insane.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And I did see you online yesterday, and I hate
that you even have to address this, Caitlin, but you
gotta love the internet, and I say that fantastically. Everyone's
got to have an opinion. And so you obviously have
blown past your goal by a lot, and there's been
a lot of generosity out there, and this has all
(28:26):
happened so quickly. But I saw that you made a
video and I hate that you even had to make
it addressing the people who are saying, well, are you
going to give this money to other people? First of all,
I think you should be able to process this. Second
of all, and you made this point and our show
we in the Chicagoland area, We work with a lot
of different organizations who deal with children with pediatric cancer.
(28:47):
And you have no idea the resources that you will need.
And you were given this blessing of over three hundred
thousand dollars and I'm sure that you'll find a way
to pay it forward, but you might need that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
And the thing is is that we don't know how
much treatment's going to cost at the end of all
of this, and we don't know what treatment she's going
to need surpass what we're doing already. I know that
our insurance has been built at least a million dollars
for only one round us one of sure five that
she has gone through, So I know that it costs
a lot, and I don't know how much is covered.
(29:22):
We don't have a bill at the beginning, right. It
takes months for insurance to process things. So when we
started our GoFundMe, we don't like asking for things. We're
very you know, prideful people. We didn't want to ask
for help. So we actually originally started our gofunding with
achul of five thousand dollars because you're like, well, we
don't know what we need. That will probably help us
just we'll see, like food and groceries while we're going
(29:44):
through this, And while our community rallied behind us and
supported us, and we realized how many more expenses it
was going to be, we slowly started raising it and
we just kind of capted at sixty but it wasn't
because that's how much we needed.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
That was just what we were comfortable, you know, like asking.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Or we don't want to be trying to ask for
too much. We don't want to take advantage of anyone,
but treatment in itself, like we don't know how much
the cost is.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, so you have far surpassed your goal, and Taylor
helped you do it, and the swiftiest helps you do it.
But I mean the idea that you don't have to
justify to anybody what you do with this money or
how much you I don't think people have any idea
to your point, how much it costs to fight this,
and you know, the travel that you may incur, or
(30:30):
the specialists that you may visit, or who knows, maybe
somewhere across the world they have a better solution for Lilah,
your daughter, and if and now you have the resources
to be able to do that. And I'm certain that
not only are you raising awareness right now, but I
think also I'm sure you'll find a way to pay
it for it. But I saw you yesterday having to
justify this, and I hated to see it because I
(30:51):
don't think you should have to worry about that.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah, thank you. It's we are eventually going to do something.
We have tons of like, even if it's not a money,
terry thing. We are going to pay it forward and
someway once we are in that position to do so.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You take your blessing, just focus on that little one
and get through this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, of course, And this is Caitlin and her daughter.
Lylah is the two year old in the viral video
that you've probably seen. Taylor Swift donated one hundred thousand
dollars to the campaign. Now, I don't know if I've
read this or not, but have you heard from Taylor
directly in any way since all of this, I'll be
aside from one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
No, we haven't heard anything from Taylor, nor do I
expect to a lot of people keep saying, oh my gosh,
you're totally going to meet her. I have no expectation
for her to ever say anything. She has blessed our family.
She has done more than enough and more than I
could ever even imagine.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, well, look we all we wish you the best.
We wish Lyah the best. Such a beautiful little girl
in an amazing story. And you know, people are going
to say what they want about Taylor and about the Swifties,
but she is generous and she is thoughtful, and she
does step up, and so does her fan base. I'm
surprised they have any money left, by the way, after
buying all all.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
The stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, but we hope to keep in touch of there's
anything that we can do here to help you, please
let us know. And obviously wishing you and your family
the very best, and thanks for taking the time to
talk to us.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Of course, all us to you.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, be strong, have a great morning, and we will
post the uh, we'll post that video if we haven't already,
and then let's post the GoFundMe too if anybody wants
to help out in any way there as well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And I mean, what an amazing story.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And and the strength of that mom, you know, to
be able to tell the story over and over again.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And of course the internet has got an internet. Stop it, guys,
stop interneting.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yes, yeah, I mean that's If that doesn't show where
we're at in our world, I don't know what does.
She does not need to defend or explain her blessing.
She's going through probably the worst thing that a family
or a person can go through, so knock it off where.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Does Yeah, yeah, And you know, in Chicagoland we work
with Cal's Angels. We've worked with which is an organization
that that that is in place to help families who
are battling pediatric cancer. And over the years, I've learned
so much about how little research and how little treatment
there is, and how little attention pediatric cancer gets and
how expensive. Ronald McDonald House another organization that we work
(33:16):
with that's providing, you know, a place for people to
live while they're seeking treatment. Across the country and across
the world. I mean, these are there's just so many
aspects of this that people don't think about. How much
is the treatment, how much will insurance cover? How much
of that battle are you going to win? If you've
ever tried to fight the insurance company. You know, do
you have access to experimental treatment to save your kid's life,
(33:36):
how much is that gonna cost?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
You have a queer job, you know to be with
the kid?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, right where where is this treatment taking place?
Is it is it down the street, is it in
a different city, is it a different part of the country.
How much is it going to cost to get there?
You know, is it in a different part of the world.
So unfortunately she she will probably need all of that money,
and obviously we're wishing them the very best Showbizhelle a
little bit late, we'll do that next. Six hundred bucks
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