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(02:03):
you toned in it with this one again on the
sheet this morning. The first thing I see is that
you're annoyed when you go to I want to know
how this came up, But you're annoyed when you go
to a restaurant and what happened?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, I don't like it when I go to restaurants
to go you with somebody and they feel like they
need to ask and bother our waiter or waitress and
ask them what's good here?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Or like what do you like? What is wrong with you?
I love you deeply, but like what what is wrong
with you? Like? What is the problem with asking people
who work at the place what they're known for? Or
what's the best thing? You? No like knocking off? Just
like what do you want to eat?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Because I can recommend like beef to you, Kaylin, and
you're gonna look at me and be like, okay, but
I don't eat beef.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
But I tell the server like here's what I'm into,
Like what are your highlights on the menu?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
What do you work there? That's true? What do you like?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
A taste for anything very specific? And I'm over here
telling you like about you.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
If I have a taste for something very specific, I'm
gonna order that thing. But if I don't know that,
I want. Then I might ask the person and I
know this before I asked the person, and then they
tell me stuff and none of that really sounds good
to me, so I don't order any of it, and
I usually joke about it, like all right, well thanks
for that, but I'm ordering this instead, ha ha whatever.
But like, what, what is? What is the problem these
people see all day? Lord, they've eaten most of the

(03:18):
food there, Yes, damn, you have to assume. And if
they're lying to you, then they're liars. But whatever that,
they can deal with that, you know, the next time
the rapture comes around, they can deal with that. But
what is I do that all the time. I'll be like, yeah,
I go to a pleasure never gone, and I'll be like,
what what what do you like on the menu? What's good?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I am you so annoyed if I was your waitress
and you asked me that, because I'd be like, yes,
because you are.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You also annoyed? If you're the waitress and I ask
you for water and like to bring is that annoying
to you as well?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
That is universal. We all need to live, like we
needed to drink your water. I'm more concerned.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
About if you don't like scallops.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm not going to give you a presentation about it
and like, waste your time, And like you said, what
if I turn around and go, actually, I'm going to
try the other thing that I thought of first.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Your reputation, they're not.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Still paying customer and everything's okay.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't like it. I do it all the time.
Even worse.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Sometimes I'll give them two options and ask them to
choose for me. Now, how triggered would you be for that?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I like that because I'm not putting a lot of
work into that. You're like, hey, what's a better the
beef barley or the whatever? Write the other soup? Put
a tomato basil. Then I'll say, I like tomato basil.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But see, my taste buds are very different other people's right, we're.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
When I'm going into the question, so I take that
into conscracy than you.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I shouldn't ask that question, but other people who have
a less particular taste could very easily ask that question.
And then you might say that the best thing on
the menu is something that I wasn't even looking at
or wouldn't normally order. But if it's like no, no, this
is what we're known for. You know, then I might
try it because you suggest it. I also might not

(04:50):
because he's not a contract because I didn't agree to
a contract with the waitress. We didn't sign anything. Okay,
yes with her, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I am the person. I will do this probably in
the so let me just be honest there. I do
this all the time. But you know I hate a
skit at dinner, like, let's get this over with. You know,
I looked at the menu before we got here. You
looked at the menu before we got here.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
No, I didn't we know what we want, so I
didn't be just done. I didn't look at them guessing
on what you want. Yes, I am. I went to
the restaurant. I looked at it at you for the
first time, and I'm going to I'm going to assess
my mood at the time because what I want right
now might be different than what I want at six
pm or seven pm. Want to go to dinner telling
you that you don't do that.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
About myself the waits or waiter You're like, bro, I
don't want to do this, Like I don't want to
play this game.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
With you, but this is there a different I know
you don't like the presentation. Yes, like the meat presentation.
You don't like that, Like when we go to a
steakhouse or something with the suits and then they come
out and they show you like, you know, the whole
you know the cat. I know you don't like that. No,
I don't don't need that. Fine, But that's different. I

(06:02):
think that's very different than me going like, well, I
don't know, I mean, what's no.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
But I feel Paulina on the waitress side, Like if
I'm the waiter, bro, I have seven other tables I
gotta work on. I don't have time to play this
game with you. What do you want off this menu?
You want to ask me all these questions?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
What do I think? You don't care what I for?
They work in the service industry, like they work there,
they're ambassadors of the police.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But if I recommend this whole like lamb, you know
whatever port chops to you and you get something completely different,
I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Be so bothered. You are bothered. I ask you what's
the best thing is and if it's not, if it's
not what I want, then I'm not going to order
an end of story, we move on. But maybe you'll
inspire me to order something no.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Time.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
What Okay, stop the Shenanigans. Pick something off this paper.
I just gave you a paper with seven options.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Pick one.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Some of us go out to dinner to like relax
and enjoy, have a glass of wine, like enjoy your company.
You want to get something you like, You want to
chat like why why are we going.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Out to the there with such anger?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
People make?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And then like sometimes if I'm choosing between two things,
I'll be like, what about these? And then sometimes if
the person like is really nice and honest, that the
server will be like, yeah, I definitely would go with
the other thing because they've had it and they don't
like the thing, right book. I mean, if you're an
honest server, not everything on the on every menu is
going to be like you know, Michelin Star. Not everything

(07:33):
is the best thing. You know, there are things that
are better. Hey, a lot of people like this, right okay? Good? Well,
then I might order that because if you sell a
lot of them, then they must be pretty good. I mean,
but how would I would I know that I don't
get their P and L. They don't little POS system
doesn't print out for me and send to my email
before I arrive, you know the most popular things at

(07:53):
the restaurant. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I've been betrayed by waiters and waitresses because they gave
me what their recommendation is and I like it, so
like that's why I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like, why are we doing this for trusting them? Is
you already know what you're wanting room? So I don't
want to give my trust to Mike.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You do that, but other people, Okay, what I'm waitressing
on the weekend, I won't do it, No.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I just feel like, you don't ask someone who knows
what you want. You don't ask the waiter. But like
other people might not know wild.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
For this, Like why would I not ask the person
who's there all the time if I'm not sure about something,
the waitress, I ask the questions. All they do all
day is right and then and then you also have
to again you have to assume they've tried a lot
of this stuff. And some people will be like, I
have never heard that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
On the flip side, I love when the win a
waiter will be like, don't get that.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's not good. That's what they do. That's what I'm
just that's what I just said, Yeah, exactly the same thing.
It's like, well, these you think, oh no, not that yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Or when they don't pick the most expensive thing, like
they're honest about sparkling.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
I don't have to I ask the questions. I'm the waitress. Yeah,
is not a fun restaurant?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
What's wrong with these people? Like? What is wrong? I
guess I'm supposed to go to the restaurant. I'm supposed
to go to the restaurant, and I'm not supposed to
ask any questions. I'm supposed to have the menu memorized, yes,
and then I'm supposed to just know. And if I
don't get it right, if I don't want everything properly
the first time, right, Oh boy, Paulie is going to
be mad. She You're going to get up and leave

(09:17):
after she eats the food. I'm about to buy her
right for trained before I have you know what pulling up?
It's no problem for you because you show forty five
minutes late, so you never saw me do that, so
it doesn't matter. That's true, But Jen, what did you
want to say? Please?

Speaker 7 (09:30):
So I'm with Kiki.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
I definitely review every menu before I go to any
restaurants to make sure I like what's on the menu,
because I prefer to want.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
To eat good food. My husband is horrible. I said,
please do not ask.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
The waitress what their favorite item is.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
And he goes, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Going to what does he do?

Speaker 9 (09:48):
What's your favorite?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Two options? And then they get their options and.

Speaker 7 (09:52):
They say their favorite and he picks the opposite.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm so embarrassing. Yeah, I mean, I definitely have done it.
I'm like, what is the best thing here? What do
you like? And then they say two things and it's like,
you know, the Pheasant and I don't know why I'm
meeting with Pheasant, but you know, I don't know the
famous send Burgers something and I'm like, I don't. I don't, Okay,
thank you for that. I don't want either one of
those things. So I ordered something else.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
That's you ever do that many before you goest.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It doesn't tell you like the best thing or the
most ordered or customer reviews.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh yeah, it tells you the version. Look at the picture. Yeah,
you gotta go down. I mean from the waiter. I
don't try those Google reviews. I don't have forty five
minutes to research the restaurant especially if it's already been decided.
It's not like I'm going to call my friends and go, Oh,
that place that we mutually decided upon. I don't want
to go now.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
No, you just do your research before you get there,
exactly exactly, you know what.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I like to just experience things in real time. But
thank you, Jen, have a good day.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay, So how about this? So I've got this guy
right now, Paulina, you'd hate this guy. I need to
look up his name. I was talking to my, uh
my friend getting about this yesterday. I love this guy.
He's in Houston. He's a tech Texan, older guy, and
he his his content is that he goes to restaurants
for cuisine he's never had before ever, and he walks

(11:09):
in and basically just says like, Hey, I've never eaten
Palestinian food before, I've never eaten Jamaican food before, I've
never eaten Filipino food before. What should I have? Do
you have a beer that's you know, from this place? Whatever?
And then he eats it and people love him. People
love this man because he's asking questions about their culture

(11:29):
and he doesn't know anything about the food. You know
what to order, they give him choices. That's you makes
a choice. That's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Don't say not going to Chili's or Applebee's like and
asking the waitresses crazy Like, that's different.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
That's the whole experience.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
You're also doing video content, you know what I mean.
You're you're putting these these small businesses.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
On like alo holding a selfie camera stick up to myself.
Not a chain. It can't be a change, can't be
a chain, right, But like, what if the buffaloed the
new Buffero on that new anymore? With the Buffalo Mozarelli sticks, right,
Like what if they're disappointing? You know, you know, and
honest server would tell you, yeah, they're kind of made,
but these are really good to get these boom TikTok

(12:06):
would have told you that a day ago. But you've
already spent four hours on TikTok on the way there. Exactly.
I have a life. Okay, I don't have a life,
so I probably have plenty of time for this. But hey, Nancy,
this is the one of the wildest takes I've ever heard.
We are not supposed to ask people who work at

(12:27):
the restaurant what is good at the restaurant. According to Paulina, well.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
What I usually do, especially if I'm on vacation, I
will be like, hey, if I never come back here again,
what do I have to try before?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I love that. See, I don't see a problem with this.
And then if they tell you something that you don't
feel like trying, you know all the you know the
frog legs are great, well I don't. I don't really
want them, and so then you order something else. No
big deal, no big.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Deal, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I agree, Okay, we can go. Nancy, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
you're welcome to a wonderful day. You too, And Nancy,
I love you, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Now I want you with Nancy. I told you I
do this, But I do feel Paulina, it's dumb. I'm
really wasting these people time. On both sides.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I don't understand. Okay, But even if I look at
the menu ahead of time and I know what I
want walking in, what if it's not good? And what
if the server is like mmm, I'll tell you what
I don't like. What I don't like is when a
server tells everyone that they made the best order, like oh,
excellent order, you know, or like excellent choice. It's like, wait,

(13:35):
would you tell me a bit we're a bad choice,
Like you're saying that ahead of time. I didn't ask you,
which means you wouldn't tell me if I made a
bad choice, and I don't like that, like I would rather.
I would rather a server be like, yeah, I don't know,
but this is actually better than that, you know, if
it's like in the same category, like oh, you ordered this,
that's great, this one actually I think this one's a

(13:57):
little bit better, And then I would be like great,
and then I have a choice. I'm educated, I have
knowledge that I cannot have. And the other thing is
one more time about reviews. God, you got me going already.
Reviews or bs, reviews, or bs. Almost nobody takes the
time to go say I had the best club sandwich
today at this place. It was the best I've ever had. No, instead,

(14:20):
it was there was a hair in my club sandwich today,
you know, and was it was it? Your hair? Was
someone else's hair? We don't really know, Okay, but no
one takes the time to go. I would say it's
ninety percent people complaining about something and ten percent people
saying how good things were. So you can't really go
to the reviews to find out what's good. Yes, you can't.

(14:40):
And don't you know that? I go to TikTok. Don't
you know that pretty well? What about reviews? Oh yeah,
I make good reviews. I make TikTok videos.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
If I really love you, and if I hate you,
Veronica or whatever's going to make a review.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
That's what I'm saying. I see a lot of reviews
from Veronica, not nearly as many from whatever. Leave then
the negative review whatever her name is, you can't even
keep its trade. Hey, Bridget, hi, Bridget, this is a
crazy thing, Paulina and Kiki. Now apparently who does it?
You're not allowed to ask the server at the restaurant

(15:14):
what's good there?

Speaker 11 (15:17):
Yeah, I don't believe in that. I actually think that
going to our restaurants, you're supposed to go with.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Your friends and sit and enjoy, take.

Speaker 11 (15:25):
Your time, you know, enjoying each other's company, peruse the menu.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I don't believe.

Speaker 11 (15:30):
In Like, all right, listen, I want to know exactly
want to want to eat?

Speaker 7 (15:33):
I want to get in, I want to get out,
I want to home.

Speaker 11 (15:35):
Like, what is the point of enjoying if you want
to be in.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
And out right. This is what I'm talking about. So apparently, Bridget,
we're supposed to go. We're supposed to go on the reviews.
We're supposed to read the menu. I'm supposed to try
and dig up any TikTok about the place he's ever
been made. I got to take three or four hours
before I go to the restaurant to make sure I'm
fully briefed. And then when I walk in, I better
have the order memorized, and I better spit it out,

(16:02):
and I better not say anything. I better not ask
anybody any questions. But lord knows, if I don't like it,
I can then go home and tear them a new
one without ever having spoken a word or asked a question.
That's what I've learned this morning, Bridget. I want you
to have a great day. No way. Yeah, that's crazy, right,
this is my life.

Speaker 11 (16:20):
Like honestly, that's what happens when social media and Google
takes over the world. There's no such thing as just
wandering into a restaurant and enjoying the experience, or maybe
not enjoying the experience and having a story. I mean,
there's something that's to be sad about old school dining
and old school activities where you don't have to like

(16:40):
be an investigator over every little thing.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
That you No, nice tribridge, you better have your order memorized.
You better have a memory, and you better not change
your mind. And if something else looks good, don't you
dare ask if it is? Nah? Uh not you Bridget, No,
do ask servers.

Speaker 11 (16:57):
I do ask servers what's good on the menu? Bought
in my deference.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 11 (17:02):
I was in the service industry for a very long
time as a server and a bartender, and I actually
enjoyed it when people ask me what I enjoyed to eat.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's interesting. How about that? Thank you? Bridget nice Okay,
one at a time. No, she's good. She's a good one.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I don't think you could take your time like you
can sit down, relax, have wine.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
And all that. Feel like it. But just like, don't
be bugging your surface guys. Let them just you know,
let them enjoy the to bug them. The people who
are there to help me. Don't ask them to help
the biggest stories of the day. Say two things that
do that do annoy me? And we were talking about
this out the air at a restaurant. I will say this.
If you ordered like you guys, I'll have the chef salad,

(17:43):
but I don't want ham, turkey, chicken, cheese, egg, lettuce,
ranch dressing. Okay, well then it's hard boiled eggs, right right,
So I think I said no. I think I don't
remember if I said in a egg, but don't bring
the eggy either. So now it's like, so what what
do you want? Them? So you want? I think that's

(18:04):
all the ingredients actually, so there's nothing left. My mom
does this all the time. Yes, I would like, you know,
i'd like a hamburger, uh, you know, medium, I'd like
the fries extra crispy. I'd like the cheese you know,
churns this morning. I don't want this kind of lettuce.
I want that kind of lettuce. And then but this
is I'm paying for it, so I should have what

(18:25):
I want. Like well then why, well then why did
we go here? If you're going to change absolutely everything
about it? Then why are we even here? Like? That's
that's my thing is if what you just ordered resembles
doesn't resemble anything like what was on the menu, then
I think you're almost better off saying what you want
as opposed to what you ordered. Yes, I'll have the

(18:47):
fish tacos with chicken. It's like, well, okay, but it's
a totally different preparation. Oh yeah, well then I want
the chicken talco. Ah damn.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Now that that is a real thing, Like in places
like raisin canes, it's so hard, like you can't get
fancy there, and that bothers me because I want to say,
give me extra this and no salt or this, Like
I want to make some type of modification. But it's
like it's either chicken strips or not. Like you're gonna
have the strips or you're not. There's no other way
to mix this up.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's just like, yeah, look, if you don't want mayo,
if you don't want like, if there's a single ingredient
that you don't like, I don't like onion. A lot
of people don't like onions. I'll eat them, but a
lot of people don't like onions. A lot of people
don't like mayo. A lot of people, you know, they
can't eat cheese or whatever. So it's like, hey, or
if it's an allergy, that's different. But then again, if
if you have an allergy, then you know, when you're

(19:33):
ordering that item, maybe that's not the item for you know,
all I'm saying is just wright down the rules because
it's a lot going on. Yeah, there was another one.
I don't like, Oh oh, when people are like obsessed
with where the food was was sourced. No, that's a
new one. Now, Look, if you if you're going if
you have a serious dietary restriction, right, you really are

(19:57):
very concerned about this out or the other thing. And
I think that's something where maybe you'd like jump online
or you know, like if you're worried about seed oils
or something like that, like health related. But it's like, yes,
where is this cod sourced from? I don't know, the
back of a truck because you're in Chili's and it
was deep fried or my favorite of the people who

(20:17):
are so persnickety about well I don't eat meat or
I don't do this, or I don't do that, and
then they'll they'll just snarf down if that's the word,
some potbellies chili that shits meat, meat on meat on meat,
just ground beef all in it. You know. My thing
is like, but I thought we just did a whole
hour about how you can't eat meat, but then you
eat it, then you'll then you eat it right and

(20:38):
fo like you know what I mean. Like sometimes I
just think I think these kind of activities can be
attention seeking sometimes where it's like, oh, I couldn't possibly
eat that it has meat in it. The next day
that you talk about going to McDonald's having a big mac, yeah,
or you know, oh I don't, I don't. I only
eat some I only eat organic this and that, and
then you know, but but you'll eat a taco bell

(20:58):
double deckerd taco from the White two came in you, Oh, well,
that's certainly not organic. It's delicious and you should eat it.
You should eat it, but it's but why do we
just have this whole debate about how oh my gosh,
I my body can tell the difference between you know,
a farm raised and wild caught. Who are you eating?

(21:19):
We all know people who they make a big scene
out of things, but then it turns out they don't
really they don't really have to do that. Mark your
wife does this, does the ingredients thing?

Speaker 10 (21:30):
Yeah, she does it every time we go on we
go out and she's like, no, I don't want no
true time.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh that's it just the c I mean, if she
doesn't want crew times, I'm not offended by oh oh yeah,
I think you cut out so she'll order the salad
without any salad.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Exactly and with fork and.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah right, And we could have saved ourself a lot
of time if you just said, give me a bowl
and a fork exactly.

Speaker 10 (22:01):
The album going this time the weekend and she was like,
I don't want those long green things. I was like,
oh my gosh, you're being peppers. And she's like, I
don't want the black things. And then I don't want
fish and I don't want that, and I was just like,
oh my gosh, she's like, no cheese. I was like, oh,
I couldn't get I could get home.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean I could have said we could have brought
you a head of lettuce and then said a lot
of money and time. We don't even have to be here, right, Yeah, thanks,
thank you, have a good day. Man. What you called Christina?
You do the sourcings thing? I you know what.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
So I'm the type of person I would totally admit
like mao or pickles or cheese because I don't like
like creamy, creamy things very much. But if I go
to a restaurant or something like that and they've got
fish on the menu. Like my husband and I we
were at a restaurant this weekend and I was like,
you know, where is the salmon source?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Is it caught or is it firmed? And she and
she's like, let me go check. And she went and
checked and she said it is wild caught, and it's
like it has a different flavor and taste and it's
just it's it's not the same. And I wouldn't have
ordered it. I wouldn't have ordered salmon if it happened.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah. Look, I get it's fitched fifty bucks on the
menu or whatever. So you want what you want. But
I guess what I'm saying is were you at you know,
were you at Applebee's or were you at you know La?
You know what I mean? Like I mean, because like
let's let's let's meet our expectations, Like let's meet the
restaurant where they are, you know, Like if I'm at Portillo's,

(23:37):
I'm not you know, is this angus beef? I don't know,
I have no id. No it's not. It's off the
back of a drug. It was frozen, you know. So
I mean I don't want you to not get what
you want. I just think sometimes it's like, Okay, here
we go, is this organic lettuce? But is it organic
hydro planic? Was it was it? Where's the greenhouse located?
What kind of soil do you think was it? It's like,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. It's

(23:59):
let it's lettuce, Steve. Why are you here? Christina? I
love you, have a good day. I love you.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
But can I one thing?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Of course you can.

Speaker 10 (24:08):
Awesome.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
So the thing is so like this was definitely like
it wasn't like a one like, it wasn't an Applebee's
or McDonald's or something like this. This was like a
local business on the outer banks. So you'd assume that, yes,
they have fresh seasons.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think that's fair though, Like here we are, we're
near water, Like did you get what I'm eating out
of that water or some other kind of water or
no water at all? Like was it grown in space
or something like? I think I think that's fair. That's
a fair question to ask. But again, like if we're
in you know, Kansas City, and you're asking me where
the where the tuna came from? And and if it's
been frozen, and how many times? And and you know

(24:45):
what what was the fish's name? You know, and like
was it nice? Was it was? You know, did you
talk to it nice before you killed it? You know,
like I don't know. They can have any questions you want.
You can ask everything. Thank you, Christina, to have a
good day. Thanks Againting, I mean and now and now
we all sound like pricks, but no, no, I.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Need to look up the menu. You want to know
where the fish came from. Get on Google, you know,
on TikTok uh. Yeah, I just are you guys some fun?
I think, you know, let's read the room, guys.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
A sixty nine year old truck driver identified as a
gun in Perry he ended up stabbing former NFL quarterback
Mark Sanchez. He sued Sanchez and Fox Corporation in civil court.
I think they're both still in the hospital, so they
didn't waste any time in this. In the lawsuit, he
claims that Sanchez instigated an altercation while appearing intoxicated. He
says he suffered significant injuries to his head, jawn, neck,

(25:34):
and was left permanently disfigured. He's seeking compensatory impunitive damages,
money for what he lost, and extra to penalize Sanchez,
plus legal costs. And I know he's I mentioned this,
He's doing Sanchez himself, and Fox I did mention that. Yeah.
Travelers across the US are feeling the effects of the
government shutdown as a shortage of air traffic controllers causes

(25:57):
delays at major airports. Controllers are considered as workers, so
they have to work during the shutdown, but they're not
being paid. Consequently, more controllers are calling out sick. One
of the most severe disruptions happened yesterday at California's Burbank Airport,
where the control tower was shut down completely in the
middle of the day, resulting in hours long delays. The
towers at Burbank, Phoenix, and Denver all had staffing triggers,

(26:20):
which were reported in the public FAA Operations plan on
The facilities that handle air traffic around airports in Newark,
New Jersey, Jacksonville, Florida, Chicago, and DC. Also Indianapolis were
also short staffed. So think about that the controllers are
many of them are working still and yet they're not
being paid or don't know when they're going to get

(26:41):
paid until the shutdown's over, so and these guys are
the backbone of all the business and personal travel that
you're doing. So we're grateful to all of them. The
oldest operating casino in Las Vegas, the l Cortes Hotel
and Casino, has launched a Halloween season contest. They're going
to pay five grand to one lucky person willing to
spend a weekend exploring its most haunted areas. Oh my goodness,

(27:05):
I was just there. I didn't realize it was so
haunted At the El Cortes Old Vegas five thousand dollars.
The winner will use ghost hunting tools like EMF meters
and thermal sensors to investigate reported paranormal activity in places
like the casino floor and creepy hallways. The contest runs
through October, with the ghost hunt scheduled for early December.
Applicants must document evidence of their findings, and rumors even

(27:29):
suggest the basement holds the remains of former employees, adding
to the eerie atmosphere. Wow, would you do this? Do
you mess with this stuff?

Speaker 10 (27:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
There's the Congress Hotel in Chicago on Michigan Avenue, which
is notoriously haunted, and I guess you can stay in
rooms where people have been killed, or ghosts still linger
or whatever. I mean, are we messing with this stuff?
I think a lot of it is probably meant, probably
all mental. We're being real, Like I don't know that
ghosts are like really like you know, I matter, don't

(27:57):
poking you when you sleep, and like, hey, if I'm
a ghost, I'm busy. Like I'm a ghost now, like
I can float around and I can look at way
more exciting stuff than you sleep in your hairnet or whatever,
Like I could be doing all kinds of cool stuff.
I'm dead, So why am I messing with you? You know?
But will you do it? Like if I said, hey,
I'll give you, you know, X amount of dollars to
stay in a hotel room where somebody was murdered for

(28:19):
the night, would you do it? Well, I'm not like
sleeping there, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
We toured an old like mental health hospital in northern
Michigan and there were absolutely like a door slammed behind me.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I felt stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
My grandpa saw someone waving in a window and there
was no one there.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Like it's real. I still contend though, that if I
tell you this place is really haunted and it's the
middle of the night, and it's very scary. It's haunted.
Your your your brain is your condition. Now you're going
to walk in and you're going to any anything that
would if I didn't tell you that, and any creek
or you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, I grew up in a house that was haunted,
and no one told me that, like until the ghost
mess with me.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It shows Fred, you'd never go to grown up with
the ghost.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
They're real to share our space. Well, I don't. I
don't know that. I haven't grown up with a ghost.
No one's messed with me. No, No, I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen the ghost I have Okay, it's creepy, okay.
And there's no possibility that there's no possibility that you
made that up in your head. No I was a child.
No possibility that you that you just sort of created that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
My mom is just like me, and when we believe,
we stick together. She's had priests in my house, in
my new house, every house, every we went like always
blessing it because I we don't mess with that.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Because I do believe in spirits and reincarnation. There's a
lot of things I believe in but I don't. I
don't necessarily think that they're coming back to mess with us.
I don't. That doesn't make any sense to me. Like
if I die, I'm in heaven now, I don't got
time for you.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't think happy ghosts are messing with us. But
I think if something tragic happened, sometimes, well I.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Would hope they're in a better place if something tragic happens.
But anyway, young people, teens and folks in their twenties
are are falling in love with old tech again. So
now young people they want flip phones, digital cameras like
physical cameras and CDs. Why because many feel overwhelmed by

(30:10):
smartphones in constant screen time. They want simple devices that
don't invent their attention. Retro or dumb devices often come
with just the basics calls, text, maybe a camera, no
NonStop aps to social medium. So it's not a nostalgic
trip necessarily, it's reaction to feeling controlled by tech, trying
to take back agency over attention and focus. I would
love to try that to run here, I'm not even

(30:30):
sure if my brain could allow it anymore. To the
final point there about how we're all being controlled by
tech and the expectations. Because if I went to the
people here and say, hey, guys, guess what, I'm getting
a flip phone and there's no email on that thing,
so sorry. But if you email me and ask me
for something at three pm, sorry, not gonna be able
to get to it. I don't have it on my
phone anymore. Oh and by the way, if you text me,

(30:51):
I probably won't respond because I may not get it.
But it'll also take me four hours to write a
sentence because I have to push the same button three
times to get the letter that I want. So sorry, guys.
You know, if you hit me between business hours, I'll
be happy to get to it. But I'm overwhelmed by tech,
so I'm not going to do any of that. How
would that go over? Really? I guess you people getting
fired for this because the expectation is that you're reachable

(31:14):
everywhere and you can do anything anywhere you go. Oh,
you have the Internet, you have an app, you have
an iPad, you have a laptop, so I can you know,
Oh you can handle that right now, can't you. Yeah?
My favorite of the people who need stuff right now.
I had this happen last weekend there's a person who's
notorious for constantly needing what they need right this second,
no matter when it is. And then I asked a

(31:36):
question and it was respectfully, you can contact me during
business hours. Oh can I?

Speaker 10 (31:41):
WHOA?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh can I? Oh that some can you? And scene
and also this is the last story is for you.
I have two, I have two and then we're moving
on from from headlines. This is for you. Kikip TikTok
may play a role in why some women are sexually
attracted to criminals. Huh yeah. Researchers analyzed dozens of TikTok

(32:03):
videos and comments that romanticized offenders, clips where users joked, flirted,
or said they could fix criminals. They found recurring themes
like glorifying their looks, imagining themselves as victims, or confusing
actors who play criminals with the real thing. They then
serve a ninety five young women who use TikTok and
those who actively liked or watched this kind of content

(32:24):
score to hire on a new scale, which is a
term for attraction to criminals hybrisk to philia. I hope
I said that right personality traits like manipulativeness and lack
of remorse were also linked to this attraction. The study
is small, but suggest that TikTok doesn't just reflect these fantasies,

(32:44):
it may help fuel them. Oh wow, there's a whole
culture on the internet about this, about inmates that have
dating profiles on a website. You can send them money,
you can connect with them. Would you ever have any
interest in a criminal a convict? No, not current, but
criminals need love to Yeah. Do you ever? Are you
on that side of TikTok where you see videos made

(33:05):
by people in prison?

Speaker 9 (33:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I were jail. What's before? I was there?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
And I was very curious on how they got the
devices and then much.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Better WiFi than I do. How's that possible? Yeah? Try?
Someone is lighting? Where'd you get the lighting?

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You have a Botchi grills. Sometimes I feel like, yeah,
it's very wild in there. It's like, man, you got
a full setup in there.

Speaker 10 (33:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
They stream a lot. Where where'd you get the little
pel mic from?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
What's going on? And Arby's, because you know I love
a food story. Arby's has rolled out what it says
is the first of its kind product. It's steak nuggets.
I'm good. Does this hit the same way a chicken
nugget does. In a news release, the company described the
offering as a premium protein product and a whole new
way to nugget. The nuggets, which were offered a select
locations earlier this year, will be available across the country

(33:49):
for a limited time starting Monday. RB says the juicy, handcut,
bite sized pieces of steak will be offered in servings
of five or nine pieces with hickory barbecue sauce for
dipping sandwiches or on top of mac and cheese in
the steak nugget bowl. Now, I know you don't eat meat.
I know you don't eat cows, Caitlin, But like you know,

(34:10):
they're trying to develop a new category here. So we
all we all have this look on our face like eh,
but is it because we don't want it or because
it's just new, it's a new concept, Like, well, we've
never tried that before, never tried to steak nugget before.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know, if you guys want to eat a steak nugget,
I'm happy for you.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I just I doesn't hit the same way for me,
because you know, the chicken nuggets have the breading on it.
I don't think these are bread, and I think these
are just chunks of meat, so I think you'd have
to have a fork. So the finger food, you know,
component is lost. Yeah, no, not for your It's national
Taco day to day, a national bathtub day. Today, the
entertainer report taco got me more than bathtub but Kalyn's

(34:52):
entertainer reports on The Fresh Show, Robin.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Williams daughter Zelda is slamming people for using AI to
bring her dad back in videos. She called the clips gross,
said they disrespect who he really was. Even worse, Zelda
says that fans keep sending her these AI videos of
her late dad, which is understandably very upsetting. She compared
the fake videos to overprocessed hot.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Dogs, something that looks like him but just isn't real.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
She's spoken out before about how wrong it is to
digitally recreate actors who can't give permission, including her dad,
and I one hundred percent agree. Just days after she
said their divorce was the best thing that ever happened
to her, j Loo and Ben Affleck reunited at the
Kiss of the Spider Woman premiere in New York, even
though they are now divorced. Ben is actually one of

(35:39):
the movies producers executive producers, so they both kind of
had to be there.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
But on the red carpet they did greet each other
very warmly.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
They looked happy to see each other, and Jlo thanked Ben,
saying the movie wouldn't have been made without him. He
praised her performance, calling it the role she was born
to play. So that is some good exes, if I
had to say, especially after she said that speaking of
divorce just days after their actors.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
By the way, remember that fair fair. These are professional performers, fair,
but with a bunch of cameras everywhere. So I think
you know a lot of people. I think they're more
well suited to pull this off in most people. Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Speaking of divorce, Just days after filing from Keith Urban
after nineteen years of marriage, Nicole Kidman announced a major
new project, Kiki, you better make sure you watch this one.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
So we got a support so she will start in and.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Executive produce Discretion in eight episode, a twenty four legal
thriller for Paramount Plus.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So somebody's got to give me their login.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Co starring Al Fannings, the show follows a young legal
associate played by Elle who uncovers her firms dark secrets
and clashes with her mentor, a powerful partner played by Nicole.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
The film being begins next year.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
But as you know, she filed on September thirtieth in Nashville,
where they lived with their two daughters. Word is she
did not want the split, felt very betrayed, having tried
to save the marriage over the summer.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
There is if you are looking for another way to.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Support her now well before this comes out, The undoing
on HBO with her and what is his name that
British actor? Hold on, I'm looking for his name right now,
Hugh Grant. It is on HBO, the Undoing, and it's
a really really good She's great at playing like creepy characters.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I feel like if you want to watch that, and.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
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(38:56):
had Bobby Brown on the show during this time, so
I wasn't able to say thank you to all the
people in Crete who came out to Smokey Joe's for
stop number one in the Thank You thirteen tour. We
did get a key to the city. Jason has yet
to produce the key. I think he is an honest
Mantle at his house right now, he made a chain.
I think he's just right. I think he's decided it
is for him. It was very heavy, so I'm worried
about his You know, already his knees messed up. Now

(39:18):
his neck is going to be messed up. But thank
you to everyone who came out. Thank you to the
village of Crete and the mayor, Mayor Mark and the
trustees and everybody who made us feel really welcome. We're
moving on, Yes, we're moving on week two of the
Thank You thirteen tour. This time it's Riverwoods, Illinois Brunch
Factory on North Milwaukee Avenue. We'll have sold out to

(39:38):
sate McCrae tickets. We'll have all kinds of other stuff too,
with the first one hundred people and avocado Theory Naperville.
After that we take a week off, and then on
Halloween morning, it's del Rooster in Chicago, in Westown. But Riverwoods.
I've yet to look on a map and see exactly
where you are Riverwoods, multiple Woods, but we'll find it

(39:59):
in the dark on Friday morning. It's amazing because all
these stops are places that I have not been for
the most part, and then we drive there in the dark.
A lot of them are like in amidst Cornon Field,
amidst corn Fields, and then like I walk out and
it's like a whole new day. It's like I spent
the night at some lady's house and I don't know
where I was. I was drinking night before, and then

(40:20):
I walk out It's like, oh, wow, look it's a
whole new world and I can like see everything like
it really is because I pull up in these we
all pull up in these places. It's pitch black, and
then we leave. It's like, oh, there's there's Look, it's
a city here. We are, so hang out with us,
please In Riverwoods if you're from there or surrounding. At
Brunch Factory Friday Morning Stop. Two of the Thank You

(40:41):
thirteen s were on the Frend show.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Hey Wake Up, you plich you.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
On that toilest in a hotel room. It is. And
if we're in a situation where I'm in public and
I'm having to do that, you know, I try and
avoid that at all costs, you know, if there's any
chance of that happening. I canceled my plans spreads show
is odd and I had to use a porta potty
this weekend. And for number one not it wasn't that situation.

(41:13):
That is just an awful thing. It's just truly traumatic.
I almost would have rather had some kind of infection
gone to the hospital. I think it would have been
cleaner there. Yes, I agree it was bad, and I
had timed out. I was at it. I went to
Southern Illinois University the Salukis. I went to the football
game and there was a tail game. Shout out to

(41:35):
all those people out there, man, and I just planned
out to all the beer drinking, because that's what you
got to do with these things at drink beer and
which I'm not a beer drink. I can't drink enough beer.
It's just a lot of I've floated away from this place.
I didn't even have to fly home. I just floated home.
But yeah, I don't know. I had to plan out
the drinking, and there was a strategy to the whole day.
You know. It was a hydrate and then p at

(41:56):
the hotel and then go to this thing, so that
I was trying to minimize to one use of the
porter potty because then we were going into the stadium
at least I could use that one. So I planned
the whole day because we would have started one the
game was at six and then so I planned it
all out, so it was like one to maybe three
thirty four, and then I had to do it, you know,
but I had a little buzz going, so I was like, ooh, Jesus,
take the wheel and then I had another two hour

(42:18):
allowance of drinking then, because you know, it was good
until we got inside the stadium. Then we relieved ourselves
there and then we were able to move on and
I didn't have to use it again. Really just an
awful thing though, It's just awful. What was the state
of the porter potty on a scale of one to
I did effected it's just all right there, you know.
I mean, I'm not gonna get into it as breakfast time,
but it's just not a yeah, no blogs, audio journals

(42:39):
in just a second. It was just what you said
to me reminded me of like it's just sometimes you
just there's just no control. It is what it is.
It was scary new.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I always think I'm gonna get pushed over for some reason.
I think it's gonna tip over and then I'm trapped.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I would almost have read I considered a public like
exposure indecency charge to go find a tree somewhere. I
thought about it. Yeah, but I didn't think that'd be
good for my career. No, so I didn't do blogging
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Speaker 2 (43:10):
A fan learned the hard way when they tried to
grab Dua Lipa's butt.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Oh so you can't do that. No you're not, You're
not supposed to. Yeah, they talk better than they tell
me about. These are the radio blogs on The Fresh Show,
like running in our diaries, except we stayed it a loud.
We call the blogs Kiki's Got One Go.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Dear blog shout out to all of the parents, because
I don't know how you guys do this whole thing,
Like right, Pete, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Man.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I think about you often because you're you're on a
real journey, my girl, like you know every day. No
turn it back, because I've helped raise my nephew Sean,
and he really broke my heart the other day but
I couldn't. He doesn't know this, but it really did.
He texts the family group and he said, I want
a job, and I'm like, and hell.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Does he sixteen? He's sixteen? Yes, okay, good for him? No, no, no,
I don't Why do you need a job?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Like?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I don't know if parents feel this or have felt this,
You go through like I went through a stage of
like grief. I went through like why does he want
a job? What are we not providing for you? Is
there something that we that you want that we haven't
gotten you?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Like? Is it something you feel like you're lacking? Why
do you want a job?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Then I go through like what I remember at sixteen
going to a job and the people I met at
that job, right, you know, it's all sometimes.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
You'll grow up fast. And I'm I'm not judging anyone whatsoever.
You know, there is a judgment free zone. But you
got this the job that's really for sixteen year olds,
but it's like a thirty year old working there still.
You know what It's like, that's the one who's buying
them booze and teaching them things they don't need to know.
It's like, you know, this is this job is for
high school kids, but you're still here. And that's fine.

(44:51):
But that's the one you got to watch out for.
Because when I was at Blockbuster, there was like a
bunch of high school kids and then there was like
the grown adult that worked the same shift that we did.
No judgment, but it was that was the one that
we relied on you for everything to teach you all
the bad.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
So I met, I'm like, oh lord, oh my goodness.
I don't know who he's going to encounter. So he
had an interview. He went on his first interview and
I'm just boohorn, like at home, but I'm like texting
him like you got this, but I'm really crying.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
He went to Taco Bell.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Okay, that's his first interview, and then he also applied
at Chick fil A. And I I don't know why
I feel.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Safer with him at Chick fil A.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
It's probably just as bad, but it's just like I
don't I don't want him to have a job.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Good for him. No, I think it's great. And so
he didn't ask anybody about this. He just just said
he's taking the initiative. He wants he wants some extra money,
yes and so, and he wants some independence. So he's
gonna go get a job. And he didn't ask anybody.
He just did it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
And I did the same thing at sixteen, literally did
the same thing. And I just think about it, like
it really matured me. I feel like a live was
a manager at sixteen, you know, like, why would why
do you want to put this stress on your life
when you can literally just live for free and ride
this thing out, Like and I.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Really wish he would do that. But you should be
happy that he wants to do this. You should be
happy that he has the ambition. Yeah, I know this
is really about the fact that he's needing you less
and less, oh for sure. And I'm like it in
your mind, which is not true. He still needs you
a lot, but this is what this is about, is
that you are he no longer has to come to
you now because he's figuring out ways to do things

(46:26):
for himself, which is what you want.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
It's what you want, but it's also what I don't want,
because like in my mind, I'm like, who taught your
social Security number? Like how did you figure that out
to even put that on application? Like why do you
why do you need taxes? I don't need you to
need taxes right now. I need you to just want
to go to school, want to play a video game.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And I feel like, yeah, I feel you on that
sad thing about like Gigi right, and my husband Hobby
and I talk about this sometimes we're like, well, when
she's old enough to get a job, are we gonna
let her go push carts at Jewel like I did?
Or do I want her to just focus on school,
being a kid doing sports I didn't, Like I did volleyball,
by wasn't involved in sports like that. I would love
for her to like really just kind of be a
kid and grow, you know, grow.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Slowly sacrificing something to do this, like, is it is
it that he can't like he has an interest in this,
but he's not going to be able to do that
because he's too consumed with getting a job.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
No, but that's how it always starts. Because even for me,
like I got everything I do, I try to do
to the best of my ability. So when I got
a job, I took get very serious. So I was like, Oh,
I'm not hanging out with my friends anymore. I'm going
to work, I'm clocking in, I'm you know, I.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Got a schedule to run. You know, it's like you
just hurw up so quick.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
You know, I want him. I want him to slow
it down. You don't need the job, what do you want?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Just text me? Because I would say, like, if he
wants to play football, he wants to play basketball or baseball, whatever,
and and but he feels like he has to get
a job because he needs extra money, and he's he's
putting that above right, you know other things. Then I
would say, if you have the luxury of not of
being able to supplement him so that he can do that,
and maybe you weren't able to, that's one thing. But
if he's not sacrificing anything he's just he's just branching out. Then,

(47:58):
I think you've got to reward this. This is good.
They get to monitor it, right, And who am I?
I'm not a parent. I don't know what I'm talking about,
but you gotta. I think this is good.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I'm going to talk all bail every day. If he
gets a job, meets your girl, look it up right.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Counter what it's stay or go. Okay, Whitney, good morning.
How you doing, Whitney? Hi? There she is, Hi, Whitney. Wow,
welcome to the program. What's going on with this guy?
You've been dating him for two months? I act like
I don't know. I read the whole email, but let's

(48:31):
pretend like I don't know. Yeah, so you've been dating
this guy for two months. You have yet to dt R,
which I'm not sure if that's de termined, that people
still use anymore, that the youth still moving use anymore.
But you've yet to determine the relationship, define the relationship
after two months. But where's the issue.

Speaker 8 (48:50):
Well, so, first of all, there's no red flags and
he's really good at communicating. Okay, I do appreciate that. However,
he did tell me this week that he's going to
be you know, quote unquote going dark for two weeks
because he's going on a trip to Europe with a sister,
and you know, he's had this trip planned for like

(49:12):
months before we even met, okay, and you know they're
thing in hostels and you know, obviously he doesn't know
if or when I have service, And I get that.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And he really, where is he going? Is he going
to like war torn Russia? Like, where where is he going?

Speaker 8 (49:33):
No, they're going, I think they're going.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
I'm like, you just want to like Paris, and you know,
progue then My understanding is that there's Wi Fi and
the and and the interwebs and phone and you know,
cellular service. So I don't know. Okay, I'm sorry. Continue. So,
so he's going on a trip with his sister for
two weeks and he's telling you ahead of time, I'm
not going to be in communication with you.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
Yeah, I mean he wants to go off the grid
and like really enjoy it and decompressed, which, honestly, like
I really appreciate.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Him telling me that way.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
I'm not like, oh no, did I do something wrong?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Where'd he go?

Speaker 8 (50:08):
You know, like I'd much rather have you met his sister.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Now is this legit? Is he definitely going with his sister.

Speaker 8 (50:15):
I haven't met her yet, but you know, they facetimed.
They talk about this trip all the time, So like,
I know that I believe that part, okay, and honestly,
like I believe the whole thing until you know. I
talked to my friends about it, and they think it's
kind of bs and they don't really buy the story.
They're like, we don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I could see this two ways. I mean, if he's
if he's taken some other woman on this trip to
wherever he's going. I mean, trust me, people who are
people who are very much in relationships have managed to
pull off a whole lot more in the same city,
in the same country, in the same zip code. So
I don't know why he would be unable to text
with you or communicate with you if this was some

(51:00):
sort of you know, the trip he was going on
with they had some sinister issued, some sinister layer to it,
Like if he was going with an ex or another
woman or something, he would very easily be able to
text you or keep something going, like he wouldn't have
to call his shot in this way. You know what,
I mean like, hey, I'm not gonna be able to
talk to you for two weeks because I'm, you know,

(51:22):
off doing something with someone else. You know what I mean?
Like that that's too obvious. It's too obvious to me,
is what, Like, how many people do you know? The
cheap married people do this? Married people have full on
relationship with other people using the very same phone and
the very same hands that they they do things with
their husband with or wife, you know what I mean? So,

(51:43):
like what I'm saying is you stuff happens right under
people's nose. He doesn't have to go out of the
country and say he's unavailable, so it's very possible. And
you know me, I'm not I'm a skeptic. I'm a pessimist.
I tended to go to the plate the worst place
that he's up to something. But I mean this be
But I also don't know why in twenty twenty five,
we're not just like shooting someone that we care about

(52:05):
a text every now and again to say hey, I'm okay,
I'm here having a good time. You know what about
social media? Is he active on social media? Usually?

Speaker 8 (52:15):
No, He's not a big coaster, really not.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
So I think this is your little friends meddling. I
think this is your little friends during this up because
it's very possible that this guy wants to be present
on his trip as sister. I mean hello, like it.
I don't know if my sister when I was younger,
if my sister had been not in a relationship and
didn't have kids, I don't know. I could see it

(52:39):
where we would travel.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes, but you could also talk to other people like
why do you need to like go off the grid
with your sister?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I don't know. Do you guys communicate regularly? Like is
it are you always in communication with me? With this guy?

Speaker 8 (52:53):
I mean it's not every day.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Oh it's not no coffee bless you, whatever that was.
I don't know. It would be one thing if it
were like you guys were constantly communicating all day every day,
and this guy's going like, hey, look, just a head's up,
Like I'm gonna be on planes and I'm gonna be,
you know, less reachable. So we're not going to have,
you know, hourly communication in a way that we typically do.
And just just know that that's because we're doing stuff.

(53:18):
Because if I'm on vacation and I am just ripping
out text messages to someone else, I'll and that's not
I'm not present. I'm not enjoying what I'm doing, you
know what I mean the way that I might if
id me just in everyday life, doing the same routine
every day, but I want to know from everyone else.
Eight five, five, five nine one one oh three five.
You know, just what do you think when you hear
Whitney talking about this guy two months no red flags,

(53:41):
he's going out of town with his sister, and he's
basically saying he's going to go dark for two weeks.
I think if he were cheating, he could still pull
off communication. What I don't think? You're just staring at me,
But I don't what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I don't feel like being called insecure today. So I
was actually just gonna let the people speak. But I'm,
you know, well no where for two weeks, they me,
and I can't talk to you unless you're going to
say the country is your name military Mike?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
If not? Yeah, that's true. I mean Shelley's husband does
this all the time. Now. Granted this because he's like
it has top secret clearances and we're not supposed to
know where he is. I guess I just don't know
that this is the second day in a row. We're
automatically going to the worst possible outcome, and I don't
I think it's a little weird, but I think that,

(54:27):
you know, twenty years ago or fifteen years ago, this
would have been the norm. You know, you wouldn't have
necessarily had communication in your pocket twenty four to seven,
and you would have had to use a phone or
a payot would have been expensive like we used the
horses too. We've evolved to a new standard where you're
supposed to be in constant communication with everyone whenever they want.

(54:49):
And I don't necessarily think it's unfair to say, hey,
I'm stepping back for a minute because I'm I'm going
on this trip and it's it's a special thing and
I want to be present for it. None of you
are no, no, none of you. Two weeks you cannot
speak to me. Did he say that? Did he say
you will not hear from me for two weeks, or
did he say that it's going to be just a
whole lot less.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
No, he just wanted to, like, definitely let me know
that's gonna be a lot less.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
He's gone, You don't even talk every day? What does
that mean? But you don't even talk every day and
you're in a relationship for two months? I mean again, Like, so,
I guess I don't know why it's a big deal
if it's a few more days. Yeah, but I mean
like two weeks.

Speaker 8 (55:28):
Okay, we talk like almost every day and we always
text good night to each other.

Speaker 7 (55:32):
Okay, so yes, there is some kind.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Of communication every day. I guess it's just not constant.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
I mean, is there any I don't know how to
do this and people are texting about I don't know
how to do this without looking paranoid or like you
don't trust him? But is there a way to meet
his sister before he goes, like just so that you
can verify it and casually, not like an interrogation.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
Local And I've like said hi on FaceTime, like what,
I'm over his house girl?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
He going on vacation. Would another woman? No, he's not.
Just you go get you another man, girl, and then
y'all link up when you get back. He's not doing that.
Like again, I know because because cheaters cheaters, I mean,
it's people have had multiple concurrent relationships right under people's nose.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
You're better at it. I've seen really dumb, obvious crimes
from sure.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
But what I mean is he doesn't have to go, Hey,
heads up, I'm going on a trip with my sister
and you can't meet her, nor can you communicate with me?
Fortune right, I don't. I don't think I would go
that far. I think I would just say, have one
on a trip, and then if you got mad at
me because I wasn't as responsive because I'm doing some
other girl, then I would be like, well, I don't know, sorry,

(56:46):
I didn't have Wi Fi, like I'm in the middle
of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's
a way to do this without calling your shot. Well.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
They also don't really talk a lot, it sounds like,
which is another red flag.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
She says, we know him. Can we almost talk every day?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
The man that you lie with, you almost talk every
day for two months?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
And maybe by the way, Whitney, have you had any
issue with the fact, I mean, are you upset about
the fact that your communication patterns? Is it not enough
for you? See?

Speaker 8 (57:10):
So she's it's the perfect We've been like growing like
a healthy, wonderful pace. I'm if this trick didn't what
wasn't like in existence, I would feel great.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
About where we were.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Okay, well, let me take some phone calls on this,
because you've heard our perspectives. But let me let me
see what people at home have to say. I wish
you the best, Whitty. I don't This doesn't jump out
at me as necessarily a break up able offense. And
I think you'll know pretty quickly when he gets back
by the way, I think you'll read it on his
face if he was up to something, or if he's
guilty about something, or something developed while you were away

(57:44):
from each other, then I think I feel like you'll
sense that. But I don't think we're we're breaking up
with someone now, break up that would just date? Oh God,
do you say hello? All right, thank you, Whitney, have a.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Good day when your.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Advice is all over the place. Is it not a
red flag that they don't talk every day though I do. Yeah?
But see, you could say that except I just asked
her if she's okay with them. She says yes, because
she's just covering her feelings. No, you have to, so
let's not take people their face value because you don't
agree the person.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
You're dating, like boyfriend, girlfriend, not like casual like hookups,
not casual dinners. I'm talking about dating boyfriend girlfriend you
don't talk to many days just to say hey, what's up.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
But again, that's what you need. I just asked her,
are you okay with it? And she said yes, And
then your response is, well, she's lying to us. Maybe
she's maybe she's not, Maybe maybe that's not what she requires. Okay,
Hey Jessica, Hi, Jessica, there go.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
Oh, definitely go. I feel like she's in the stage
where ignorance is bliss and she wants so desperately. The
whole one day is actually what you say is that
he is even though she knows it's not. I feel
like she's the other woman.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I will say, Jessica. The part of this that we
and someone texted this just now, the part of this
that we didn't really hone in on, is that they
have not defined the relationship after two months now. For
some people that would be normal, but I mean, technically
they are not in a relationship, so he could be
going with someone else and getting with her, So I
guess I don't know what the purpose of lying is.
He could be omitting because he doesn't want he doesn't

(59:20):
want her to go anywhere but two months and they
are not technically in a relationship, which means that technically
he wouldn't be cheating on her. He has every right
to do what he wants. He's on vacation with his
wife and kids.

Speaker 9 (59:30):
Oh god, that means he's definitely going with another woman.
I kind of went through a situation like say, people
go through things, but you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
You know, he is going with another woman, his sister. Yeah, Jessica,
you have a good day. I love you, guys. I do,
I just I don't. I don't know. I Amber high,
I don't amber a stair go.

Speaker 7 (01:00:03):
Awesting why it's only two weeks. If it's really a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Big issue, they could both get what'sapp.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
And communicate through there. But I don't think it's that
big of an issue, especially if he's only going with
his sister.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I do think. I do think it's interesting that the
whole not defined the relationship thing. But I mean, what
is the appropriates? I mean, they don't talk every day,
so is it I mean, is this is it a
slow burn? Is this? I mean, I don't know what
it is strange, But then again, he wouldn't have to
lie to her. You know, he wouldn't have to say anything.

(01:00:38):
They're not together. Me and lots today sad chicks all
the time. You don't let you, You don't let you,
Sachig know she is sad. Cheek Okay, Amber, thank you,
you're right, have a good day. Two weeks. It's a
little strange, but I'm not jumping to immediate. You know
this other stuff you're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Courting me, like write letters, get what's app send a
carrier pigeon, let me know you miss me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, okay, that's fair and it's too he would and Fred.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Honestly, if you were dating a girl and she told
you I'm going to Europe with my brother for two weeks,
you probably won't hear from me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
You would be okay with that. I wouldn't love it,
but I guess I'm not necessarily going to all of
this these other things. Hey, Crystal, good morning, So I
gotta wake up now, you say, okay, Mom, I'm a wait,
so go right ahead tell them this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Do you congress on your engagement?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Thank you very hard.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
You can play this too way, Honey.

Speaker 12 (01:01:37):
You need to find out for him if something happens
on the trip, who.

Speaker 10 (01:01:40):
Does he contact.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I mean, what do you mean his mom? I don't know.
You mean, who's the emergency contact. They're not in a relationship, Crystal.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
She said they've been dating too much, but they haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Then she did say that, but they have not defined
the relationship, which I think if any of this is suspect,
it's that part of it. I guess. I wonder what's
up with that? Yeah, friend, once you get the good
of this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
So no, no, no, two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
So what would you expect every day he needs to
contact you every day? He's gone.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
No, he doesn't need to every day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:02:09):
I get your own vacation, have fun on your vacation,
but you're not going to see him.

Speaker 10 (01:02:13):
You're going dark.

Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
Two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Okay, fair enough, thank you, Krystal. Hey, I hear you
have a good day. No day. You asked me if
I would like it, I wouldn't like it. But I again,
how do we know, based on what little information we have,
that he's absolutely lying and he's cheating and all these things. This,
this is how this happens. Is we're the little friends
here and we're in we have no idea what we're

(01:02:35):
talking about, and we're injecting all of our own insecurities
into this polo week. No, we're saving her. Listen, we
live in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Like we said, what's app this that there's wine down
time when you're on vacation, you're in your room, you're
on the toilet, you're doing your own thing, like you
can call it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
It would be easy enough to drop a text every
now and again. I agree, I agree. I do you agree?
Meaning Tower Pieza, you know they're right leaning in the yes. Absolutely,
I'm praying for you with my mistress. Yeah, Carolina, Hi, Hi, Hi,
good morning. Just to recap here, this woman's been danting

(01:03:12):
a guy for a couple of months. They haven't to
define the relationship she has. Uh, she indicated on her own,
no red flags about this guy. But he's going on
a trip for two weeks with his sister, he says,
and let her know that he wouldn't really be communicative
during that time. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Definitely stay.

Speaker 12 (01:03:28):
I think that unless she sees other red flags, no
reason to be alarmed. Went through something similar many years ago,
three week, three trip for three weeks for someone I
was just talking to here and there, getting to know
and we're married now, and it was all fine. He
actually did reach out throughout the trip here and there,
not as often as you typically spoke to each other,

(01:03:49):
but you know, knew where he was at here and
there every few days and gotten nice souvenirs. Ended up
picking him up from the airport. So I think that
might be something she can try, kicking him and the
sister up from the airport, getting to know her after
the trip, maybe trust a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Yeah, or booking you a flight and imagine, you know,
ended up at the same resort.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
I've only been dating for two months.

Speaker 12 (01:04:16):
I would say that's also a little I don't want
to go on a trip with someone I've just stated
for two months and their sister.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yeah, why get that too a wife? Yeah, Carolina, thank you,
have a good day. Yeah. There are definitely holes in
this and it definitely is a little strange. But I
guess I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
I mean, why is he You're a good person and
you give the benefit of the doubt, not always although
you would.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Not go for this, I wouldn't like it. No, I
wouldn't like it, But I mean, I get after two months,
it's like, well, Caitlin's entertainment report is on the Bread Show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Family and friends of Celeste Revas, the team found in
a tesla registered to singer David gathered yesterday in California.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
To finally lay her to rest.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Remember, her decomposed body was discovered last month in the
trunk of the car that was abandoned near your house
David was renting in the Hollywood Hills. It was eventually impounded,
and then days later, maybe even weeks, cops found her
things to a smell. It's just a horrific story. Cops
believed that Celeste, who friends in David's circle reportedly thought

(01:05:22):
was nineteen years old, had been dead for a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
She was reported missing early in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
In that time since her body was discovered, David's been
pretty much radio silent, pulling the plug on his tour,
shelving his deluxe album rollout for Withered, and apparently moving
out of the Hollywood Hills rental home where he was staying,
where the lapd have executed a search warrant. He has
not been spotted in public ever since she was just
fourteen years old. So rest in peace, just so upsetting,

(01:05:54):
and of course the Internet is you know, everyone's trying
to figure out what happened, moving on to do a
lee as new video shows her killing it at the
Kia Forum in La over the weekend, posing for photos
in the crowd with fans when one dude got a
little too familiar with her, sliding his hand or trying
to slide his hand right near her booty before security

(01:06:15):
stepped in. So the whole crowd saw it go down.
They couldn't help but laugh out loud because security literally
he almost touched her butt and they smacked the hell
out of his hand away. People were cracking up. Dua
was two in the zone to even notice the butt
grab or the almost butt grab. But the clip, of course,
is going viral really fast, and honestly shout out to
her security because they saved her on that one. People

(01:06:36):
online are horrified, let's not grab people's butts. That you
can't grab their butt please, you know I'm supposed to
do that. Lisa didn't do that when I met do
at least? Yeah, No, I'm glad you didn't. I didn't
do anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
No, you didn't grab anybody. No, No, I never have. Listen,
I tried that when I met you, but Jason blocked
my hand. No, no, actually his hand was already on it.
That's how he boughted it. That wasn't a block, that
was him already.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
There was no room left for her hands. What did
you do wrong in this situation? I didn't stop him though.
That was the weird part. He's just so lovable he
gets away with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Charlie Sheen went on Dak Shepherd's Armchair Expert podcast and
apologized for being super rude to him twenty years ago,
which I mean, that's nice, better late than ever. Charlie
said that he was in a really bad mood because
he was dealing with parenting very young kids on Halloween.
He said, try effing with kids, dude. He called himself
an a whole five thousand for how he acted, said

(01:07:29):
he carried guilt over this for years. Dak said he
didn't even remember the event, but he accepted the apology.
Charlie said that making aments is very important and that
he didn't want to live with regret over misdeeds that
he did years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So that's like one example of you carry this guilt
for years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I've apologized for something and people like I didn't even
remember that but still nice that he did that. And
of course he's going on a huge press store over
his Netflix documentary aka Charlie Sheen and it's really really
good if you have not watched it. And speaking of watching,
if you want, I guess in the answer your listening experience.
We are live throughout the show on YouTube Fred Show
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Do you have what it takes to battle show biz?
Shelley in the show Biz Showdown, Shelley, Good morning, Jocelyn, Hi, Joscely,
good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (01:08:26):
How you doing.

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Doing?

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How are you guys doing doing? Great? Fun facts about
you would be a fun fact about me would be
that I am an Irish twin. My sister and I
are only ten months apart. Oh damn, parents wasted no time?
No tell what's her name? My sister's name is Monica?

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Watching?

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There you go, Hi to Monica. If she's watching, she's
really dedicated on YouTube or not watching.

Speaker 9 (01:08:57):
I'm SOA's right now.

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We got a little low bunch of TV show going.
It's fine. One hundred and fifty bucks is the price.
Shelley has won one straight and over one thousand wins,
only seventy four losses. Five pop culture questions, Let's go,
good luck guys, all right, good luck, all right, Shelly,
we'll do expect you got to get the heck out
off to the sound boof poof, She can not hear
the questions. Joscely Number one Southern Charm star Catherine Dennis

(01:09:21):
began serving a thirty day sentence for a dui arrest
last May, which network airs Southern Charm three two. I
don't know Who's surprised fans during her Austin City Limits
set by bringing out Shania Twain to sing that don't impress.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
Me much, Oh my girl, Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
It says, sign that would be impressive if Shania Twain
could sign that don't impress me much as well, speaking
of that music festival. Role Model also surprise fans by
bringing out this singer and Lizzie McGuire star namer Oh
three Madison Bira spot A kissing her quarterback boyfriend before
his game over the weekend. Which NFL star is she dating? Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:10:10):
He's from the La Charters three two Remember you got
the team, right, And which British talent manager and former
American Idol judge turned sixty six.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
A day, Siming cow That's a three all right, not bad,
not bad. Shelley will get her back from the boof
poof within, enter within, how to carry her in again? Yeah?
Again on her thing thing, the bad thing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
She got a three? Three? Okay, she got a three?
Question number one. Southern Charm star Catherine Dennis began serving
a thirty day sentence for a dui arrest last May.
Which network airs Southern Charm? Bravo? Ye? Who's the price
fans during her Austin City limits set by brigand Ashania
Twain to saying that don't impressed me much. Sabria carp Yeah,

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speaking of that music festival role model also surprise fans
by bringing out this singer and Lizzie Maguire's star namer
Hilary d Yeah. Madison Bier spotted kissing her quarterback boyfriend
before his game over the weekend. Which NFL star is
she dating? Justin Herbert? That's right? And which British talent
manager and former American Idol judge turned sixty six today,

(01:11:24):
Simon Cowell that's a five. That's a whim, Jocelyn, not
bad at all, but you're gonna have to say, my
name is Jocelyn. I got showed up on the showdown,
and you can't hang with the gorilla.

Speaker 11 (01:11:32):
Go.

Speaker 13 (01:11:34):
My name is Jocelyn.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I got showed up on the show VU Showdown, and
I can't hang with the garrilla Jocelyn sister de Monica
can't hang with the gorilla. Cat. Get cat cat. Shout
out to all the Irish twins, Hey, bo, Cat's a

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good one. Okay, I'm good. I'm good. No, I'm good,
dove everally am No, I'm good. I just I just
need ocugen quickly. Johnce, hang on a second, have a
great day. Thanks for listening. Thank you as well. All
I say right there. Nice job, Shelly, so to straight
two hundred bucks tomorrow win number one thousand and sixty six.

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So good job and we'll see you tomorrow. All right,
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somebody get ghost? We'll do that next. Got the entertainer
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No?

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I didn't.

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Maybe that's why it tooks alone. Fred's Show is on.
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(01:14:09):
What are you working on? K Diddy's latest request?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Jack Osborne remembers his dad in a really special moment,
and Taylor Swift slams an offensive fan theory.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Tim How you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
I'm doing well about you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
We are great waiting by the phone. Let's learn about
this date. I'm going through your email here. You went
out with Roxy, you met on Tinder, and then what happened?

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
We talked for a bit, We actually went out twice,
and I don't, you know, mean to get too much
into things. But after the second date we hooked up,
which I took.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
As a pretty good sign.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
I thought she was into it. But you know, she
started ghost to me after that, and I'm here to
find out why.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Okay, Yeah, I see what, Yeah, I don't. I don't
hear you bragging about hooking up on the second date.
I think sometimes on a second date that's a good
sign right. I mean, especially if you get a second
date then you hook up. It's like this is going
in the right direction, except she's ghosting you and it's
driving you crazy. Yeah, all right, we'll call her. We'll
see if we can figure out what's going on and

(01:15:11):
put this to rest, and hopefully we can straighten out
whatever the issue is. Maybe nothing's going on, maybe she's
just been busy, or who knows, And if that's the case,
we'll set you up on another date and we'll pay
for that. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
I really appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Part two of waiting by the phone. Tim. We doing okay, doing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
Good, well, anxious to figure out what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Right right, Well, we're about to find out. We're gonna
call Roxy. We're gonna see what's going on. You guys
went in a couple of dates. You thought they were successful.
Now she's ghosting you and you want to know why.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
You got it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Okay, good luck? Hello?

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Is this Roxy?

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Roxy, it's Fred from the Fred Show. I have to
tell you that we are on the radio right now
and I need your permission to continue with the call.
Is it okay if we keep talking?

Speaker 10 (01:15:59):
Yeah, Yes, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
It's kind of awkward, but thank you. Yeah, I know,
I know, thank you so much. We're calling on behalf
of this dude named Tim who I guess you met
you on Timder and you went on two dates. Do
you recall this guy?

Speaker 11 (01:16:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yeah, sound excited.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
We know that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah, we've heard it before. So what would happened with
this guy? Because he described a couple of really good dates,
he liked you a lot, was hoping to take you
on a third date, says that you're ghosting. Can we
sort of get to the bottom of why. It's like,
I feel called out, but.

Speaker 14 (01:16:32):
I was just trying to be discreet.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
Yeah, Tim is I mean he was like a cool
like honestly, we actually got along really well. He was
a really nice guy.

Speaker 14 (01:16:41):
If we had gone on a couple of dates and
we had kind of polled around and stuff, and after
one of the hook up, this is like weird to
even talk about with public.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I told my closest friends, but he asked.

Speaker 7 (01:16:54):
To keep my underwear.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Did you call them panties? We got a lot of problems.
I hate that word. Second yeah, same, the same these
so he what like he wanted them as some kind
of a souvenir.

Speaker 14 (01:17:09):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
He's gonna do with him.

Speaker 7 (01:17:11):
I was, but I was like, no, absolutely not. Yeah,
and so I mean that is just kind of how
I felt about the whole situation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
So you're kind of spooked, You're like, I'm not doing
this spook.

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
I mean, I just I don't get like, I don't
consider myself.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Like vanilla necessarily, but I'm not into.

Speaker 14 (01:17:33):
I didn't know what the hell he was gonna do
with it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:35):
Yeah, I was just like, no, I'm going to go
ahead and keep the clothing that I Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Let me expensive ponties. Were they nice ones? I mean
you know what was going to go down? Would you
leave some behind if the guy asked you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeah, he would, Yeah, little things to make people happy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
You know, well what if they were expensive ones? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Yeah? What is an expensive What is an expensive pair
of underwear? I don't know. I don't buy like expensive,
like yeah, like the expensive ones I have are like
in a set, you know, like pinky or something like
thirty bucks for underwear or Tim is here. I always
leave that part out. Tim has been listening to all this, Tim,

(01:18:19):
what what do you? I mean, Look, you're entitled to
your own freaky.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
But I just like keeping them as a bit of
a souvenir.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
So you have a box full of them somewhere, like
that's disgusting. Oh yeah, if I'm not special, it's nothing
like that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
Like what if I hook up with somebody and like
they give me their painting, let me keep it. But
if I'm seeing somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Else, I throw the old ones away. That's creepy.

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
If I had a collection, that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Would be that would be creepy. Yeah, no question.

Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
And also I don't see what the big deal is.
You know, a lot of people are into this sort
of thing. She told me no, and I was totally
cool with it. I didn't freak out or anything like that.
And also, aren't you supposed to not kink?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Shame?

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
But I feel like I'm being very judged right now,
and that's not very cool, not the whole one A second.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I mean, I don't know that we're judging you so much.
She's allowed to judge you because she doesn't have to
do what you asked.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Me to do.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
I'm not into it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Oh yeahs and that like no, and I respected you
saying no. I didn't push the batter. I just said, hey,
by the way, I'm into this. Would you mind if
I kept it? You said no. I said, that's cool, okay.
At the end of it, you could have just said afterwards, hey,
that really freaked me out. I didn't want to see
you again.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
That's true. She could have. She doesn't know you that
I didn't really well it, so you can't let it go.

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
I did want to chat about it, and you didn't
want to chat that, but this was my only recourse.
But I thought we had something now. I wanted to
know what was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I thought maybe you were you guys, You guys, we
talk about this all the time, right, I mean, you
guys have only been out twice. There's no equity. I
used to wear equity all the time. Like, she doesn't
she liked you, but she doesn't really, really really like
you to the point where you can bust out something
that's that that she thinks she's abnormal or uncomfortable with,

(01:19:59):
and that she's just gonna get over it. Like I
understand what you're saying, which is I asked you for something,
she said no, and you were cool about it, and
you can communicate, but like you're not. I don't think
you're there yet you're still getting to know each other.
She can't get that out of her mind. She doesn't
known anything else about you, she said, wandering a bunch
of other stuff. If I'm dating somebody for six months
and they asked me to do something weird that's different

(01:20:19):
than two times, thank weird, and I found and that
was that. With my luck, I would ask for that
and get kinky. I'd forget I had them, and then
I would meet the woman of my dreams and she'd
come over and be like, what are these? And then
I'm in trouble. I got this is kind of weird. Rock.
See any chance you would forgive this guy and give
another shot? It's just not my thing. I think we

(01:20:41):
both be better off.

Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
We found people that that are mold a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
There you go, Well, if you will, Tim, good luck
to you. Tim. Okay, Sorry, than A's entertainment report. He's
on the Freas Show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Did He is asking to serve his fifty month sentence
at Federal Correctional Institute in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
It's called Fort Dix, which kind of sorry, I'm twelve
d i X. His lawyers argue, I'm sorry. He wants
to be moved to Fort Dicks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
His lawyers argue that the low security facility, which makes
me a little nervous, near his hometown, offers a top
drug treatment program, the Residential Drug Abuse Program, that could
help him remain sober and rehabilitate. They also say that
its proximity to New York would make family visits easier.
Did he has already served about a year in custody

(01:21:34):
and could be released in roughly three years. A judge
will now consider that request. But the final placement, I
guess is on the Federal Bureau of Prisons. By the way,
President Trump did confirm that. Did he asked him for
a pardon? Obviously he said no. But Trump says he
calls him puff Daddy, which was my favorite part. He's like,
I call him puff Daddy, And he did ask me
for a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Lot of versions of it. Good you subscribe to right
still back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Apparently because he is no longer puff Daddy, but he
has been brother love.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
He's rocks shaw he did he shan yeah, right, So
I thank you for clarifying. That's the one thous which
area you're in? Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Jack Osborne tearfully recalled watching his dad's final concert on
July sixth, just seventeen days before his death, calling it
a living wake. In a new interview, he said he
hugged Ozzie backstage before the show, later cried with his
brother in the audience, realizing that it was his dad's
last performance. Jack said Ozzie got to say goodbye to
everyone that night, which is really special. As for his

(01:22:33):
mom Sharon and how she's doing, he says he always
answers by saying she's okay, but not okay, but that
the whole family absolutely feels the outpouring of love from
fans and everybody who has, you know, said nice things
and done the memorials and all that. So she is,
She's hanging in there. And Swifties in a Jacksonville. Jacksonville

(01:22:54):
feeder probably were pretty surprised when they went to see
one of her movie screenings and they saw her, her
fiance and his family in the audience. I was lose
my ever loving mind. It is very sweet, like couldn't
you guys get it on you know, Blu ray or
DVD or something new. Photos show Travis all smiles with
his arms around his mom Donna, along with his uncle
and aunt on his birthday of all days. That's how

(01:23:14):
he spent it at a Florida movie theater, which made
sense since he and the Chiefs played the Jags last night.
Travis and Donna even had little props, including orange feather fans,
to go with the new album thing it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
It's a very cute photo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
I would have lost my mind if I look over
and see him in his red wood sitting right there
while we're talking about the couple. Though, Taylor did shut
down the popular fan theory suggesting that she would retire
from music once she gets married. She said it's actually
pretty offensive and rooted in outdated stereotypes that women give
up their careers after their marriage. She says her love
life does not dictate her creative work, and she plans

(01:23:47):
to keep making music for as long as it inspires her.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
I don't know if you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Guys heard this theory, but a lot of people thought
we were getting the life of the showgirl and then
like the Death of a Showgirl and it was gonna
be her last album. But she's not slowing down. She's like,
he's really passed about his career, and he supports that.
I'm passionate about mine, so swifties can relax. And I
did not talk about her for any of the other
reports today, so I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
I'll know. There was one complaint on the text, too
much tailor talk. It's not like anything's going on with
her right now, so it's not like, you know, she
had a new.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Album and right you know she is in the news,
and that's kind of my job. But I do try
to please one off texters. It's a problem that I have.
I know, same same So for the one texture, I
did not talk about her that much today, Not that much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
No, not that much at all. And no, there's so
much stuff that I should be talking. Good job, no,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
The one person should be very happy trying to keep
it fair at trying to keep it even I'm a journalist. Also,
if you want to catch up on any of those
other reports or anything else from the show, type the
French one demand and if you could while you're there,
set as a preset it helps.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Please on the free iHeart radio app. Have you guys
heard about the Taco Bell Ultra Marathon. It's not sponsored
by Taco Bell.

Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Now, at first I would say, okay, I'm in except
I'm not. I'm not in it at all. As you know.
I'm on your two season two of trying to be
a runner, which means which means a more of a
frow out. My run is a fast is a high
exertion fast walk for some people. I'm really out here,

(01:25:17):
you know. And then we got personal trainer at the
Stars except for me, Gideon, you know who this guy.
Yesterday we're running and I was like, hey, and he's
about to run the Chicago Marathon, and I'm like, give
me to start running right now at your marathon pace,
and I want to see how far I can keep
up with it. And I would say about three hundred
feet later, I was done.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
And yet he would have had to do that, And
we'll do that this weekend for another twenty six miles,
So there's that wow. Proud of you though, But yeah, no,
I mean, you know it's something this, however, I think
would be difficult for a lot of people. It's a
fifty k. Okay, it's a fifty k, which I don't
know how to do the math on that. I think
it's eleven. What is it? What a fifty k is?

(01:26:01):
Someone looked at him. Please party one noise. Be right, Well,
five k is three times? So is that fifteen miles?
How about thirty one? Thirty one miles? Thanks? Okay, so
you were right. The New York Coast reports that Denver
is preparing for an especially brute what must be if
is an ultra and especially brutal endurance race. The Taco

(01:26:22):
Bell fifty K is not sponsored by fifty K. It's
a demanding test of not only cardiovascular fitness but also
intestinal fortitude. You're required to stop at at least nine
of the ten Taco bells along the route and consume food.
This is the eighth such competition, and the rules make
this race the ultimate test of athleticism. So here are

(01:26:44):
the rules if you want to do it. First of all,
thirty miles we just learned is what a fifty K is.
By the four stopped, all entrance must have consumed at
least one Chiluupa Supreme or one crunch Trap Supreme. Dietary
restrictions will be allowed with reason. By the eighth stop,
all entrance must have consumed at least one Burrito Supreme

(01:27:05):
or one Nacho's Bel Grande. You have to finish in
under eleven hours. Drinks don't count as food unless you're
trying to get clever, you know, and like, oh, I'll
get a I'll get a Mountain dew, you know, Baja
blast and Nope, that doesn't count. Entrance must keep receipts
and wrappers for confirmation of stupidity. At the end of
the rum, no en course, pepto alka, seltzer, pepsid ac,

(01:27:28):
or my Lanta will be allowed, and additional rules could
be added, amended, or change to promote the intent of
the run, which is to do something completely stupid apparently.
So yeah, you think, like, okay, I could do like
a maybe a five a taco bell five K. Now
the taco bell part, like, I don't know how long
I could the five K part. I could manage in

(01:27:49):
a diaper maybe though, maybe n pants or something like that,
because I mean, you know, usually it's like if I'm
gonna have Taco Bell, then we got to sort of
plan out the rest of the day, Yes you do,
you know, same with white Castle, like we gotta we
gotta sort of Okay, I'm gonna do this, so cancel
the rest of my plans, like I need to be
at home. I'm not going on. That's it's just not
something to play with, Like we're not just out here

(01:28:09):
Willy Neely just having taco bell, you know, and then
just going about our day. Some people can do that.
I'm not one of those people. But there are a
lot of layers here. Thirty miles of running in eleven hours,
and then you have to do all of them. I
think it's pretty wide.

Speaker 15 (01:28:23):
I could do a five k eleven hours I need to.
I mean, that's that is my five K time. Actually,
I'm actually yeah, I'm actually still running a five k
from yesterday as we speak right now. I know it
doesn't sound like I'm breathing heavy, but that's because I'm
on hour ten.

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The Fread Show is on. Yeah, Fread's Fun Fact, Fred's
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Lucia is the only country that is named after a woman.
And after these fun facts, the ones, I think I
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(01:29:18):
Christian martyr who died during a time of persecution. Wow,
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Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
So I have to ask you, guys, if it is
ever okay for me to call out a friend's partner
husband in this case. Okay, So I was eating with
both of them recently and he said a comment that
made me want to jump across the table and smack him,

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but I did not. I did not choose violence that day.
So we were eating and we sat down and he goes, Babe,
i'm starving. We didn't eat lunch today, and you never
miss a meal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Excuse?

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
So there's a couple issues that I have with this comment.
First of all, seeing their fridge. They have a ton
of food in their fridge, so if he was hungry,
he could have made himself some lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
He doesn't need her to do that. Second of all,
I don't need anyone tell me I never miss a meal.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I don't miss meals, but I don't need someone reminding
me of that, and third of all, we both smirked
at each other, my friend and I because what he
didn't know is we snuck.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Through the Taco Bell drive through, so we were not starving.
We did not get him. I'm offended. Did she look
sad by it? Yeah? Yeah, wow, Well I do feel
like it's probably for them to work out. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know that you need to step in.
I mean, I understand that the natural desire to want
to defend your friend, but I also think it's like,

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I don't know, and when you know, probably when you left,
he got an earful about it, so I don't know.
She actually asked me why I didn't say anything. Really, Yeah,
I don't think that's your job. I don't think so either,
and I didn't want to get involved, but I was
like girl, and she was like, yeah, you should have
said that, And I was like, oh, really okay, I
don't know the rules, yeah, because I don't know, Like

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I mean, obviously, if it were something like really hurtful,
I mean, which could that could be interpreted really hurtful,
but like a physical or something else, like yeah, of
course you intervene, but I don't know. I don't necessarily
want to get involved in people's no sense of humor
or passive aggressiveness or whatever it is because I don't.
I don't know, and then I stand to alienate myself
from that group inadvertently if I'm overreacting. So I don't know.

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Maybe later I would check with my friend and make
sure that she was okay. But no, I don't think
it's fair for people to expect you to jump in
on their relationship sort of squabbles. Yeah, no, she wasn't
like upset with me or anything. But like when we
talked about it later, I was like, girl.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Yeah, you know what to I would just say one
thing okay, and I'm not gonna go to the floor
with it, but I will say, let's normalize one thing,
and that's making people uncomfortable when they want to make
someone else uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Do you feel what I'm saying. I'm big on that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
So like if Hobby ever said that, if he would never,
but if he did, I give you guys permission to
make him uncomfortable, like call him out on something, and
I will be right there hagging you on. I will
cheer you on because I feel like we give people
too much permission to, like just I don't know, disrespect
other people or say things slick stuff, you know, and
if I don't stick up for myself in that moment,
I give you guys permission too.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
But we don't have any perspective now Pauline, Like we
know now that she was upset and wishes that that
Camelin had come to her defense. But in the moment,
I don't know if that's not just some silly little
game that the two of them play, and then we
could be silly together and I'm not being funny. I
think it's for me to again, short of something that's
like dire, I don't think or dangerous. I don't know that.

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I think it's for me to inject myself and other
people's relationships because I got to think, if you're saying
it in front of me, in front of me, then
you don't mean to You're more than I would like
to believe if I know all parties involved, that you're
not actually trying to be hurtful, that you're being silly.
Even if you are being hurtful, but then that's for
the other that's for you to straighten out with your husband,
not me. But I give you permission to be just

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a silly back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
And I'm only saying this because again, like we give
people too much permission and room and leeway to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Do these kind of things. Just be silly back, be like,
oh how about you can't get up and make a
sandwich yourself? Yes I can't. That's extremely combative what you do.
I'm but that's how I hate to say this, but
that's how you get yourself like not liked by the partner,
and then that's how it causes problems. And you can

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sit here and say like, yeah, well, well that's their problem,
but then you're unfortunately, as we've all seen, their problem
becomes your problem. And I hear what you're saying, but like, yeah,
I don't know that I'm in your home. It's for
me to be passive aggressive with you on your comment
when I don't have all the context.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
True, I don't blame yeah, yeah, we had just started
in the night and like we were going to be
together all night, the three of us, and actually for
once I held my tongue, which I've never done it
because you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Could have made the evening very uncomfortable. I understand both
sides of this, but it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Yeah, but like with in certain situations and with certain
people and certain friends partners, maybe I feel that I can.
I didn't know what was going on, and honestly, the
comment stunned me so much that I was silent because
I was like, what, you can't say that, especially to
a woman, like don't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I guess you could test it by doing by responding
self in a self diffacating way about yourself. I guess
you could be like, oh, I know, I'm kind of hungry,
or I don't know something. You could say something like
but I think if you're like, well, I can't believe
you just said that, you know, in defense of your friend,
it's like, oh whoa, because then all of a sudden,
making guess like you would make you look like you're overreacting,

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and then before long you're right. The rest of the
evening sucks because because you had to open your mouth. Yeah,
I just I was like, oh my goodness, but I
sometimes I have to tell myself, and I'm not very
good at this, and to your point, sometimes I have
to mind myself. I don't have to have a comment
about everything. I don't have to contribute to every conversation.
My voice doesn't always need to be heard because I

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like to have something to say about everything. I'm learning. Oh,
you're right, you're right, I'm learning. This is me. I'm
talking about me. This is not this is not me,
like you know, no that projecting onto you. It's like,
sometimes I want to have a comment about everything, and
sometimes it's like I need to say, okay, I was
I was very proud of myself because you could have

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made the rest of your night really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
I resisted an urge and I had an urge, But yeah,
it's it depends on the friend, the husband and the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
And I actually, for once in my life, held my
tongue and I'm proud.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
But I was just wondering what you guys thought about
calling out someone else's partner, because just word of wisdom
for men or anyone really don't remind someone that they
don't miss any meals.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
But I think it's the level of comfort, like if
you knew, like there are people, there are couples. I
know them both well enough that I could say something.
There are some that I don't know the sense of humor,
or the sensibilities or or the context. And then I
wouldn't say anything. But I think you have to be
self aware enough to know, in my opinion, now again
if it's if it's hurtful or abusive or someone but
I'm gonna punch on his face, but I don't know.

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For all I know, right before I walked in, she
made a fat joke to him. And it's never like
those jokes are usually not funny. But like again, I
don't know what happened earlier in the day or yesterday,
or like what their little stupid jokes, you know what,
they're still little humor is