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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Breast Show is on Fred's Biggest Stories of the Day.
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Florida the Gators, Jason, they beat the Houston.
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Horses.
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Yep, that's exactly right, the Houston Horses. The Florida Gators
beat the Houston Cougars in an NCAA title game thriller,
which was stopped by some defense at the very end,
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is the NCAA men's basketball national champion, So congratulations to them.
Have you been paying attention to this Karen Reid trial. No,
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there's a whole documentary about him. I can't remember where
the documentary is Hulu or I think it's on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Essentially, this woman is accused.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Of killing her boyfriend who was a cop in the
Massachusetts I think, I said at Boston maybe, and she
says she's being framed, and of course the prosecution is
saying that she ran this guy over while drinking in
the middle of the night, in the middle of the winter,
and there's a lot of talk about this thing. A
lot of people think that she's innocent, and if you
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watch the documentary, I mean, my mom and I sat
and watched the whole thing a couple of weeks ago,
and I was like, I don't know, maybe she did,
maybe she didn't. It's not cut and dry, but there's
some definitely some shady stuff going on with this. But
it was a hung jury the first time around. And
so now is the sixth day of jury selection in
the second Massachusetts trial of Karen Reid. Ten jurors have
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been seated for the retrial of Reid, accused of killing
her Boston police officer boyfriend John O'Keeffe by hitting him
with her SUV in twenty twenty two. At least sixteen
jurors who needed before the trial can begin. But things
told yesterday, with no jurors were selected, it's going to
be hard, I think for people around them to find
jurors around there who don't know anything about this case,
because it's been so widely talked about. I mean, it's
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all over TikTok. Of course, the documentary. I'm sure there's
been a dateline about it or forty eight hours or
whatever else. But Reid claims that she left Okkei at
the house where he was found dead, and she is
being framed for the actual murder by the actual killers
the judge declared a mistrout last year when the jury
found that they couldn't reach a unanimous verdict. So we'll
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see what happens with that. But I watch the documentary.
I think it's Hulu. See what you think, fred Olay,
this is for you, paulin him. You know, I like
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Speaker 1 (02:55):
So there, I need to go to my best friend's
house right now because he can't have that can have
milk you better.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
See if you've got the tostitos cantina traditional yellow corn
tortilla chips.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The only one he eats.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
What are you talking about?
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Those are the one. He's a cantina guy.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
He is.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He eats pretzels and tortilla chips all he can have.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, well you better call him up. You better call
him up and see. Gen Z is this, according to
the New York Post, is being labeled as the ghosted generation.
So gen Z is defined as what I always get
these messed up. I'm technically somewhere between millennial and I'm
right on the cusp of millennial and gen.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
X is it?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Ninety seven to twenty twelve? Is gen z? Am? I?
What am I again? Millennial?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You're a barely millennial? Or but what's before that? What's
older than that?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Why? X? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So yeah, So gen Z starts at ninety seven, millennials
are eighty one and ninety six, and then what's right
before that? That was born at the end of eighty
gen x X yeah, right, So I'm somewhere between millennial. Okay,
So gen Z is becoming the ghosted generation? Or is
According to a new article from Business Insider. Young adults
today are facing more knows than any generation before them,
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from dating apps to college applications to the brutal job market.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is that true though?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean maybe dating apps because you know you're there's
a much a much higher percentage of folks that you're
looking at and that could potentially not swipe right on you,
which I don't necessarily see as a no. That doesn't
seem like I mean, it's not if someone doesn't match
with me, it's not necessarily rejection. I don't if I
don't know them. Maybe if I know them, i'd feel rejected,
But I don't know. How is that any different than
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when I used to have to go out back in
the day, like in high school walk up to the
girl in high school and talk to her because I
couldn't text her because we.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Didn't have that. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But and why are there more nos in the job
market now than there were when we were younger? I mean,
I mean, how many no's have I gotten in this business?
I get them every day still to this day. But
there's an author who says it's not about entitlement, it's
about gen z growing up in a world where yes,
seems more out of reach than ever. Despite having more
access to opportunities, think endless dating options at your fingertips,
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get higher rates of loneliness. We're sending out hundreds of
job applications with nothing but radio silence in return.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is that a new thing? Though?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know. I'm am asking an honest question. I'm
not picking on anybody, but are there really more nos
now in the job market than there ever have been?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I mean, I.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Feel like because the way we get jobs now is different.
So now you can mass you know, fine on inded
a thousand job opportunities and apply for all of them.
Back in the day, you had to know somebody or
have an internship. Sure, you shot your shot at like
one job and works your way to get it. Now
they could shoot their shot at a million jobs. Yeah,
but it's old.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
No, Kiki, If I send a thousand mass job you
know resumes out, one's you know, generic application to a
thousand places, and I know that's probably an exaggeration, but
let's say I do and and nine and ninety nine.
Tell me no, I don't see that as a rejection
because I didn't really invest myself in any of that.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Right, Because you're you're fishing, You're normal, right, So they
delusional and they think that they deserve all one thousand
jobs that they applied for, Like I applied to be
a doctor yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know what I'm saying, Like that think you could
do it. I mean, you're a judge, right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
It's that type of delusion that they had that our
generation and the ones before us we didn't have. We
lived in like a different reality because we were humbled
every day.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I mean, that might make it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I can see why it might be harder to get
a job because everyone's doing that. So it may be
harder for people to if I'm a hiring manager and
people are applying for the job and they don't even
know what they applied for because it's because they just applied,
Because then then it might be harder for me to
stand out than it was before. Because like when I
was applying for radio jobs, I'm not even that old,
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but I mean this was you know, early two thousands
when I'm first applying for radio jobs. The way you
had to do it was you had to make a CD, right,
and you had to type out a resume and a CD,
and then you had to figure out a way to
make that stand out, but you still had to put
it in a fed X envelope and send it to
a radio station. And I and then when I finally
got said jobs, then I was the guy receiving those things.
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And I can remember there would be bins of these applications,
but they would be maybe thirty and I thought that
was a lot. You know, we'd have like these bins
of envelopes of people who wanted jobs we didn't have,
and I would try, because I remember applying for them
and no one writing me back. I can remember, but
I knew they got it because it was FedEx so
you could put little receipt on it. But I remember
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trying to go through them all and at least call
them back. I had no ability to hire them, I
had no juice. But I just remember what it was
like to send the envelope and get nothing back. I
can remember. I remember this guy. There was a guy
in Louisville, Kentucky. I said, I made a I took
a bottle of Jack Daniels because it's Kentucky whiskey, and
I bless you.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
I'm sorry I make it away from them.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I know you're not.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Allergic to them because that's one of your favorites. And
I made a custom label for the front of the
Jack Daniels bottle with my face on it, my name
and the whole thing, and I put it on there
and I sent it to him and he never wrote
me back. And I saw him at a conference years
ago because he's still in the business, and I go,
do you remember when I did that? He goes, yeah,
thanks for the whiskey. And I was like, you couldn't
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have answered. I go, I go to anyone else do
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
He was like no.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm like, couldn't you have at least called me and
said I don't have a job for you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But that was really creative.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's funny that you don't forget these things. But I
guess what I'm saying is if you're if you're if
you're swiping on one hundred people on a dating app
and nobody matches with you, I don't necessarily think that's
rejection because I don't there's no investment. Yeah, you know,
if I make it, If I go ten rounds in
an interview and don't get the job, that's rejection. They
decided they didn't want you now. That sucks, but that's
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nothing new, right, That's been happening forever.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, I think now too, I doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
A whole podcast episode yesterday about it was really interesting,
and I think what's going on to is AI. I
think is going through those applications and automatically just describefying
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So I think, oh, that's the only way, right, because
how can they possibly if everybody on Earth who's looking
for a job is just mass applying for jobs correct,
how do they know which.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You recommend it?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
They're like, don't mass apply, like make this personal, like actually,
like do it the correct way. But people are not
gen Z I'm talking to you, so then you know,
AI is just kind of like throwing them out basically
in the trash and it sucks. But also too, I
see on TikTok a lot of gen Z say that
it's hard to get a job, and I don't know
how true this is, but somebody said that even Trader
Joe's has like a list of people applying every day
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that they can't even hire.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm a job market expert, but it doesn't seem great
right now.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
No, I don't rely. The market is crazy. I've heard
and think about it. Now, they have fool companies that
all they do is scan through applications for other job
like for companies.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh yeah, you'll see it on TikTok all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Ways to optimize your resume so AI will pick up right,
you know and stuff. So I mean I would agree,
now you're competing with a new level of sophistication, But
I don't know that that means that you should feel
more rejected than any other generation who didn't get a
job either. I mean, because I guess every generation has
had challenges, right, I mean it used to be you
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couldn't even apply online. You had to physically go to
all these places and fill out individual applications and whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know, So that was a challenge.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But I guess that meant there was less competition because
everybody couldn't just push one button. But I guess college
is probably the same way. I remember I had to
fill out individual college applications for every college. Yeah, now
that felt like rejection because every process was different everyone.
I mean, there's some of the essays you could reuse,
but a lot of colleges wanted different subject matters, so
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you had to write different essays, and of course you
had different levels of investment. I can remember not getting
into colleges I really thought I wanted to go to
and that felt terrible because you're rejecting me. Somebody read
that and looked through my grades and looked through my
resume and looked through my essays and decided I wasn't
good enough.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But I'm not even that personal.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
I mean, you never had the thought like, oh, I'm
getting rejected more than like Susie down the hall, did
you like? I would never think like that. I mean,
I know they have people like designated when you're applying
to like combing through your social and that's got to
be an issue these days. But I just I don't
know how we can quantify the amount of rejection each
generation gets. I just think every other generation never had
the thought like I'm getting it worse.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Good point, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Somebody said he didn't respond because Jack's made in Tennessee
at Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Maybe it was a Tennessee job. I don't know, I
don't know. That's that's the point he put.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Last twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
On the point is, I couldn't afford to do any
of this, and I don't know when I became a
photoshop expert to make the label.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
The point is, I guess I know that nobody else
did that, so at least take one second to call
me and go, your tape sucked. But that was really
that was her created. But maybe maybe that's what happened.
Maybe that's what happened. Critics say that gen Z was
never taught how to lose, was raised in a culture
where everybody is a winner, and now in the real
world the crash is hard.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
Maybe I mean my sister's getting rejected right now for internship.
She's applying and I've never heard her saying. I mean,
she's bombed, but she moves on. She's like, you know,
I learned something in every interview.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
See But you were saying she's getting to like three
rounds of interviews, and I would argue that is a rejection.
Now I'm not saying she's not good enough, But what.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
I mean is it hurts to make the line around.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yes, like if I send an application and you don't
write me back or I or I swipe right on
you simply and you don't swipe right on me. I
don't see that as a rejection. You don't know me
from anything. Now, if I interviewed three times for a
job and then you say I want somebody else, now
that I can understand that that's rejection. That's them saying
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someone else is better than you. Yeah, And I don't
think that's a terrible thing.
Speaker 9 (12:35):
And she, I will say, like, she takes it better
based on she works with recruiters, so like some recruiters
are really great at telling her like why she may
not have gotten it and talking her through like this
is not about you personally, there was someone a little
more qualified, Like she like takes it better than if
someone just like ghosts her and then is like, sorry,
someone else got the job. You know, because she's putting
time in these interviews. But she's never once said like
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this is worse than when you were going through it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, maybe the JEB was a Knox.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Whatever it was twenty two years ago, and I promise
you I was considerate about what I was doing. I
don't know, it doesn't I didn't. I thought it was
clever men who I'll finish these headlines quickly. Men who
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significantly lower sexual satisfaction, desire, and erectile function compared to
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non users. Hmmm, I don't know. I'm doing all right,
Thank you, Thanks for going fine in that area. I
don't know if I agree with that. I feel like
if i'm you know, hypothetically, if I had a little
bit of a right, the sensation is actually a little yeah.
I don't know about that from what I've heard. Allegedly,
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there's a phone case that flips over when it hears
the word cheers. Heineken has created what they're calling the Flipper.
It's a phone case which flips your phone face down
so you don't get distracted by socials when you're out socializing.
It uses AI trained listening tools connected to a robotic
arm to flip the phone nestled inside it when it
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senses the word cheers, a universal sign that you're out
having in person conversation. It's a prototype for now, but
the idea, of course is that you wouldn't be distracted
by your phone, which the kiki would just flip it
back over so it wouldn't work. And a guy who
is four feet three inches tall is believed to be
the world's oldest person after he turned one hundred and
twenty five on Saturday, April fifth. This guy lives in Peru.
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His name is Mashiko and that's what his government issued
photo says, and it lists his birth year is nineteen hundred.
The old and tiny man was orphan at the age
of seven after his parents tragically died while trying to
cross the river in nineteen oh seven. The guy worked
in the fields from a young age, unable to attend
school because the closest one was too far away. During
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his time working in the fields, he reared animals and
bartered farm goods. He never had a partner or children,
a simple, solitary and self sufficient life. But apparently he's
one hundred and twenty five years old. I'm all sad.
My goodness, I think a nice eighty five ninety would
be And at this rate, I'm not even sure about
maybe a nice if I could live, If I could
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live healthfully to about eighty and then I just dropped dead.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh don't say that.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Eighties, young, Yeah, I still need to get it in
at eighty get it in?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, oh lord, may he is young?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, well you know what I mean. At one hundred
and twenty five, I need. I'm probably good. I'll set
with them. It's National Library Workers Day, National Enpanada Day,
and National Zoo Lover's Day. The Entertainment Report blogs and
Stay or Go will debate some relationship drama.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
All next friend show. That show is on, it's Stay
or Go. Okay, Shennon, Good morning, Shennon.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So what's going on with this this boyfriend of yours?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Okay, So we've been dating for teen years and I
know that sounds like a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That's a minute.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
We started at eighteen, so it's like, you know, those
younger years do they really count? But yes they do
in girl years, yes they count. I want to get married,
right like I want to have a family. I'm thirty three,
Like you know, this is like geriatric pregnancy kind of like,
you know, we got to get the ball rolling here.
But my boyfriend just says that he's not ready.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
After fifteen years, he's not ready? Yeah, you big tim.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't think so like it. I know that that's
Tiky's boyfriend. But it's been about half.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
The time, right, eight years, yes, seven seven, yeah, fifteen
years and this guy hasn't pulled the trigger, and you
want to have kids. And the whole geriatric pregnancy thing
is laughable to me, but I know that's what they
call it. My sister, her first pregnancy was I think,
like pre geriatric, and then the second one was full
on geriatric.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, by definition, if you're.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Thirty five or older, they consider it cheery ass or
like I guess they like want to use like this
advanced maternal age thing, but you know what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, so okay, hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's funny because Kaylen and I were having this conversation
all of us actually off the air yesterday about getting married,
and like I had a woman at the event on
Friday say to me, you know, someday somebody will marry
you kind of thing, and I was like, well, you're
assuming I want to be married. Everyone's assuming that I
want to be married, and I'm desperately trying to be
in a relationship and I am not. I mean, if
I met somebody who was you know, and the synergy
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was there, then I would do it, but otherwise I'm good.
But as far as getting married, then I asked this person,
and it's always my follow up question. So you're happily married.
Oh no, I'm divorced. Well then why didn't know? Are
you telling me to get married? Oh, I'd never do
it again? Well, then why are you? Why are you
encouraging it for others so that we can all be
tortured the way that you've been tortured. So I might
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say to you after fifteen years, if you're happy and
things are functioning and going well, then okay. I mean,
if you want that, then you should. You deserve to
have that and you should find that. But maybe everything
is just okay the way it is. Now you add
to this the fact that you want to have kids.
Maybe it's important for you to be married when you
have kids, or you know, that's important value for you,
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not for everybody, but for you. Well, then those things
need to have You know, you need to get married,
and then you need to think about starting a family,
and you probably want to think about that sooner than later.
So I get it, But how do you make a
person who in fifteen years hasn't knows these things about
you knows that you want to be married, knows that
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you have kids. How do you get them after fifteen
years to just convert into somebody who believes in this.
I'm not sure that you do. And the problem is
if you were to say to him, you better. We've
talked about this before too, like, hey, I spent fifteen years.
I've given you plenty of time. I want to be
married and have kids. So we're doing both of those things,
and we have to do them in the next thirty
six months otherwise it's unhealthy. Potentially you may get what
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you want, but there's two things. One it may be
under duress, which means a guy didn't want to do
it anyway. And two, even if he does do it,
and even if he did want to do it, you
had to tell him that you essentially are going to
wonder did I always make him do this? And I
don't think either one of those things are very good.
So my gut tells me, Shannon, you might need to
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think about moving on.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, I know, well, he says he wants to get married,
you know, like, well, he doesn't wants to propose on
his own time.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But I'm like, is your watch broken?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Like, come on, fifteen years, he not ready? What's his
reason for not being ready?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't know. He just says he wants to do
it on his own time. And you know it's like,
oh work, oh of this. I'm like, there's always going
to be stuff, right, Like I am apprized and I
want to be the priority.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Oh well, thenger.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You gotta go, yeah, because I don't think you can
go to him if you want to be married after
fifteen years. I think the only way this works is
if you go to him and say, look, I want
to be married like now and then and then you
have to I mean it's almost like you have to
put a deadline on it, because again, fifteen years is
a life, it's half a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean, it's a long time. And I don't know
how you.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Get a person because if you don't say anything and
and then status quo, you know, then it. I mean, Jason,
you're kind of in this in this bottle.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I'm almost there. Yeah, when you're shy and then which
I mean, what like what do you do?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Right? You go to Mike the mechanic and go like,
hey man, you know, hey, I want to be married,
and he goes okay, but I don't want to be
and then the end of conversation unless there's a second
part which is okay, but I mean really like I
need this in my life. I want this in my
life and it needs to happen soon. And then what
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if the person says no. Then if you say okay,
then you've acquiesced and you've you've played your card. The
card has been played and you now have no leverage.
So the answer is there. It is So if that
is so important to you and this person's not seeing
the same value in that value, then you that might
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that might be a fundamental disconnection.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You may have to move on.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Would you be open to having kids outside, like without
being married? Like, is that something either of you are
open to?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
I'm not open to that. I want to be married,
like I want the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Okay, Oh gosh, it's so hard.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Like you have someone that treats you well and that
you love and it's like yeah, fifteen years right, Yeah,
it's a.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Lot of time invested. And it goes back to, like
you said, the value. So like I on my podcast, lol,
but like I had a relationship expert come on and
talk about the situation because I think a lot of
times it's you know, you don't want to give some
of the ultimatum. You don't want to force somebody to
do something that they don't want to right. Right, However,
I think it goes back to, quite literally, the like
what do you value in your relationship?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And that's what this expert was telling me, and she said,
you know, is it marriage?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is it you know, sex and your like marriage or relationship?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
What are your values?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And unfortunately the hard part with this is if you
go to him and ask him that, you have to
be prepared for the answer. And then also it's kind
of like, well, what are you going to do with
that answer? Right?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Are you saying or are you going?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And that's that's fine, we're here, there or go, But
quite literally, you know, what are you going to do
with that information?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Because you can't get all the values? I'm sure I
don't think so from one person?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Probably not right, Like if I value let's just say,
like the top three things, you know, does my husband
value those?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But I guess like what's priority? Like she wants to
be married, this is what she wants? Well, let me
ask you this.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Shannon just to be clear, and did you switch did
you flip the script at any point?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like, I mean, I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I don't know the answer, of course, but like for
the first I don't know ten years, were you like, ah,
this is fine, or for the first I mean, you
have every right to do that, But I mean, like,
did you just recently say because like, for example, I
know a married couple. They're married, they decided they just
from the beginning, if we get married, I do not
want to have kids one person and the person's like,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And the person is like, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
To marry you and have this come up later like
this is fundamental, I don't want to have kids. And
the person was like that's fine, I no problem. Two
years in the marriage, I want to have a kid.
And then it was like, well, now what do we
do because we talked about this and then well, whoopsie
they had a kid. And that's a whole different conversation.
But oh it was a mistake. It was oh I
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was an accident and it all worked out. But my
thing is, like, I guess I was just curious if
you if you were like, yeah, no, you know, it's
just free and fun and whatever, and then all of
a sudden you're like, no, no, no, I mean we have
to get married now.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Is there any of that going on?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
So, I mean we were together like at eighteen, so yeah,
of course it was like, oh, yeah, whatever, we're just
having fun. But I mean, I will say the last
ten years I've been pretty solid on like wanting a
family and wanting to have kids. So you know, I
feel like, you know, fair at twenty two, you know,
I'm like kind of thinking that way, and he was
seemed to be on the same page.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, and we're like allowed to change, right or do
you guys dis agree?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Let's just say you can change.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I guess if a decade goes by and you
can change your mind. But I think if you change
your mind in that way after saying no, no it's good,
it's good as good, and then a decade later you're like, no,
it's not, I think you have to be prepared that
person's gonna say, well, i've been very honest with you
and transparent. We may be at a crossroad. That's why
I was curious about that you do have a right
(24:11):
to change your mind. I was just curious if you
did really grow we evolve, because that would be one thing.
But you know, you're saying that this guy has known
for a long time that this is what you want
and hasn't done it.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, you gotta go. Yeah, you gotta go. Pack it up,
You gotta go. No, I don't blame you from being afraid.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I don't blame you, but like, I don't think it's
going to happen, and if it does, it's going to
because you you're going to feel like you force his
hand in it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, right, and that's not a good feeling, and that's
not fair to you. No, he's in the way of
your husband. You know your husband is or to him.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Right, Yeah, because if he didn't really want it, then
like we're both fooling ourselves.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Let me, Shannon take some phone calls on this. But
I don't mean to be harsh. I really don't, but
I just I, you know, my gut tells me that
this this isn't going to happen on its own, and
if it does, it will probably be you'll probably wonder
for the rest of your life, did I make this
guy do this? And I don't think that's a great
feeling to have, Even if it's not justified. Even if
he's right on the verge and then you push him
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and then he does it, you're still going to be
like I had to push you, and I don't think
that's cool. But man, and let me take some calls
and have the radio on and we'll see what happens.
But good luck, thank you. I'm eighty five five three five, Hi, Amanda,
how are you?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm good? How are you doing great? Sore goo? What
do you think?
Speaker 8 (25:26):
I say, go. I've been with my boyfriend for ten years,
but we've started dating at fourteen, so I'm twenty four now,
and we've talked about getting a ring. We just have
kind of surpassed our first year in both of our
you know, start of our careers, so we were kind
of just waiting on that. But we're both aligned on
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the whole kid thing, and I think if you're not,
that's a deal breaker.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I will say, to start a relationship at fourteen, I mean, yeah,
people get married. I mean people get married at eighteens.
You know they get married young? Hey they do? Yeah, No,
But I mean I would say I'm not saying that
the first you know, three quarters of the relationship don't count.
They do, but it might be a little less realistic
to be married in the first part of that, right, So,
(26:14):
now here we are, and so now I think it's
a valid conversation. And I'm not saying that the ten
years of your relationship don't count. But you're not gonna
get married at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seven, probably so, But yeah,
I would think this guy would know where he stands
with you at this point, after all this time.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Change someone's mind that easily on a topic that's huge.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, I agree. And it's not the kind of thing
I want to wonder. It's not the kind of thing
I want to wonder for the rest of my life,
even if it even if it works, I still don't
want to be like man, I had to make it.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I do that, right.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
I don't think that's you mentioned, Guil. I agree, Gil.
Is not something you want in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, Yeah, Amanda, thank you, have a good day, good luck,
Thanks bred bye.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Hey, Bethany, good morning, Hi, good morning, Hi Bethany stare go.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
So I think that she's got to go. There's after
fifteen years. If you're not ready, you're never going to
be ready. There's no way.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, I don't think this guy wants to be married.
I mean because again, good enough for fifteen years. I
don't want to say not good enough for marriage. But
that doesn't make sense, right, Like, if you're good enough
for fifteen years, then you're good enough for marriage unless
you just don't want to be married, and then that's
okay too.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But I don't think he wants to be married. So
what's like the cutoff year wise? Like, are we concerned
at seven years? Half a lifetime ago? I don't know, right,
because he is about to be there. Yeah, I'm about
to cut him off. I don't know. I don't know
that it takes. I don't think it takes that long
to know if you want to be married. I don't, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Take that long to know if you want to be married.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I think it takes We have to be realistic. There's
a life thing.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
There's the thing that happened in people's lives that were
but there always will be, There always will be. However,
she doesn't have a reason. He can't even give her
a reason on why it hasn't happened. Now I know
several reasons on why things haven't happened, and why you know,
if you're being if that's really what you want and
your partner won't give it to you, like leave, there's
no reason to stay in it.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
But there's I mean, you can't put a time stamp.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I don't think there's a certain year like at the
five year marketings, and then you have to go like no,
it's different for every relationship. And people settle too and
settle early and that doesn't work out great either.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So it's like you just got to do what works
for you. Betty, she got to go. I think, yeah,
I think so for sure.
Speaker 10 (28:25):
If she want, if she values marriage, and it doesn't
sound like he does, then there's the answer.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thank you, Bethany, have a great day, you too, Glad
you called. Thank you for listening. Carrie, Hi, carry good morning,
a car through this.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You did this, I did this?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, Okay, so tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Uh. So. Me and my husband met when I was
fifteen and he was eighteen, and we instantly got together.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know, we had a child.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Accidentally, we had a child, and we decided, okay, we
don't want to do the lockdown get married thing, you know,
because we were both so young. We wanted to live
our life and all of that. But then I got older,
and then I'm like, okay, you know, we got a kid,
we got kids, whatever, I want to get married. He
still didn't want to. And I kind of understood that
because from a man's standpoint, you know, you guys feel
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differently than women. Do You have different emotions, different things
that you go through. The older you get, the more
you're just like, okay, I'm too old for this testosterone,
all that kind of stuff comes into play. So I
think she should say. I don't think that he doesn't
value it. I think that there could be something there
that she just doesn't realize, or maybe it could be
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childhood trauma that he's went through, or even some kind
of emotion that he's going through that maybe they just
need to sit down and like, you know, have a conversation,
maybe compromise with each other. Okay, well you want children,
let's have children. Don't have his last name. You'll still
be their father. It's not like you won't be in
(30:04):
their life. It's just maybe come to a compromise and
then later on get married. I know people that have
been together for fifty years still haven't gotten married, and
they still love each other.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, see now, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Like, like I said earlier, I can see myself in
a situation where I get with somebody and we're just
happy and we don't do it at this point in life,
and that's fine, but that we would.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Both have to be aligned in that correct.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
If one person wants it the other person doesn't, that's
a fundamental disagreement that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Hey, thank you so much, Carrie, have a good day.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Glad you called. Hey, hold on a second, I want
to get back to you. What's that Carrie's what's.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
In her life?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Having kids with this man?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Man, I'm being real.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I don't think it was on purpose. But Adriana, Hi, Hi,
good morning.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So this happen. You did this? You gave your fiance
and ultimatum. What's the situation?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
So we've been together since we were nineteen, we were
college sweethearts. I just said, I do not want to
be one of those people who is been dating ten
years and doesn't have a ring, Like we either are
going to be in this for the rest of our
lives or we're not, so I said. By year six,
I gave that ultimatum because I know what I want
(31:16):
in life. I said, by year six, if I don't
have a ring, I'm out. I got my ring, and
we've been engaged for two years now. I have no
plan on having a wedding anytime soon, but for me,
it was I wanted the ring. And yeah, we've been
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together eight years.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yes, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Adrian, I'm not I'm not like, I'm not criticizing you whatsoever.
But you demanded a ring, you got it, but you
don't necessarily want to get married. I mean so okay,
I mean I almost feel like you said, I.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Want to get married.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
But we just bought a house in August. I finished
my masters next year.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
So.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
After I finish everything, then and that's the next plan.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Okay, that I could be a I'm going to rock out.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
With somebody for six years or seven years or whatever.
They like, I have to have a ring, Well, i'd
probably give you a ring, and that's all I gotta do.
And then I bought myself another seven years, like okay, okay,
here you go. I mean I might I might be
inclined to do that, so wait, that's all I gotta do. Yeah,
I just bought myself more time.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, I don't know. It's just so romantic.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's like, I feel like this either happens in a
reasonable period of time or it doesn't, and it's all right,
and it's okay if it doesn't. But if one person
wants it and the other person is struggling with it,
you may never get there and that's okay, but then
you may need to go another direction.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I don't know, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Multiple people Adriana, thank you, have a good day. We're
out of time and we got to go.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But I don't know. I don't think everybody telling these
people that people are listening to you.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
There was a little girl that was like, I'm single
time man.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
She was six, So that you know, inspiring the you, well,
that's again, that's the key. He's going out here is given.
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