June 6, 2025 • 16 mins
What would you do if your child said they didn't consent to the chores you gave them? Fred and the crew discuss that. Plus, Fred is third wheeling internationally... Listen now!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wanted to bring this up because my mom listens
to the show every day, and like, I wish I
could see the look on my parents' face when I
do this story. I wish I could, and I want
your genuine reaction, especially if your I don't know, twenties, thirties, forties,
You grew up with siblings.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know Caitlin did. Caitlyn.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You practically were a second mom because of the age
difference twelve years thirteen years difference between you and Bella,
your sister.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She's younger.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
A TikToker known as Shira is making waves with her
bold stance. Why do I believe that she might be
in her early twenties. I've never seen this woman. I
hate to say this, this is a generational take, but
parents are going to shiver or older siblings her bold stance.
Parents shouldn't make their kids babysit younger siblings without consent
(00:47):
and compensation. Yeah, I mean, you were a big sister too.
Can you imagine, Pauline, if Mama Marta had been like, hey,
I'm heading out tonight with my.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Cigarettes and Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah Salem, so I was gonna say Virginia slims, but
Salem Flim going out with the girls tonight. You gotta
watch your sister. And you were like, First of all,
I didn't consent to that. Second and second of all,
what will my compensation package looks like? Can you imagine now?
Look like my My parents.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Were very smart. My parents were very smart.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I have my sister seven and a half years younger,
and they were not They were no dummy. You know.
On my birthday they were were extremely generous. They gave
me a brand new car. On my birthday. They gave
me a brand new car. Was so I couldn't believe it.
Like I was convinced that I wasn't getting a car.
I was convinced that their deal was, you got two
years to make money in the summer and whatever amount
of money you can make, we'll we'll match that and
(01:41):
you can buy a car with it. Well, I didn't
make it. I didn't make that much money, so I
wouldn't have been I didn't think I was getting a car.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I got a car.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Boom Immediately, here are the keys. Oh my god, yay, congratulations,
take your sister to dance, Go get me some at
the store. Hey, go go pick up so and so
and so and so at the airport, Hey, you do
very smart. It was what an investment in the quality
of life of their own quality of life? Yeah, extremely generous.
I'm extremely grateful. I will do the exact same thing
(02:09):
if I ever have a kid. It'll be like, oh sweet,
and this is before uber and every Hey, go pick
up the Chinese food or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And for a little while you're like, oh, I get
to drive, Like I get to drive.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And after a while you're like, I don't want to
go to dance practice again. But if I had told
my parents, like, what's in it for me? You know, well,
what are you to pay me for that? We'll be like,
I don't know. How about the air you're breathing? How
about you know what you're wearing right now? How about
that car? How about the how about how about you know, eating, sustenance, education,
(02:43):
how about love? Can you imagine, Caitlin, if you had
been like, well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
First of all, I didn't agree to that, And.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Second, oh my god, can you imagine telling your parents
I don't consent.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
To that absolutely, And I had enough forethought to go like,
I mean, yeah, sometimes it was frustrating because I was
like fully, like we had like a drop off pickup schedule.
I was getting her from school, like I always had
a car seat in my backseat.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I looked like a teen mom in high school.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But I just I had enough forthought to go okay,
Like my parents have given me so much, Like the
least I can do is like help them out.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I know that as a kid, I was not grateful
enough because I didn't have an I didn't have the
perspective to realize like how hard it was for them
to provide the things they did. And I also was
around kids who had as much or more than me,
so it wasn't I had no example of how it
could look and in retrospect, like, I'm just so grateful
for all the things that they did.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But I, even then.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Even as a little snap nosed, little entitled kid, I
knew better than to ask my parents to compensate me.
Can you imagine if you told her, like, here's your
your older sister takes you in when your mom passes away,
and then and then she's already got kids, and there
are always kids, and so can you imagine if Helena
had been like, hey, I need you to do this
(04:02):
Makitha and you're like, well, well right.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
No, I would never do that for Helena.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
But I because I had a friend who was really
like a second mom to all of her siblings, and
like we would have parties to go to the skating
rink and I would be like, are you on duty tonight?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Like can you come out? You know, like I got
to watch the kids.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
And I'm like, your mom had all those kids, that's
not your responsibility. So some parents, they really do put
a lot of responsibility on the oldest.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, the oldest sibling, y'all are the strongest soldiers for real.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
No, it's I say, it's like you need to be
an oldest sibling.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think in a lot of ways, but it's we
don't choose it, and that's okay, you know, but yeah,
some parents do take advantage of it. I mean we
had bell I would throw parties in the basement and
Bella would be down there with her bottle getting passed
around by like's just you know, I mean, that's what
we would do.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
We would just go to my friend's house and babysit
at her house.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
We would all hang out.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
But you know, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
If you're treating the oldest sibling like a nanny, that's
one thing. But if you're just being asked to help
out around the house because that's what family does, and
you're over here going mmm yeah. In her viral video,
she emphasizes that children are not free labor and should
not be assigned adult responsibilities like cooking, cleaning, or babysitting
without agreement.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What are you talking about? Where are you going to live? Like?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
What are you how exactly are you expected to survive?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Your parents are also not I mean, while I think
a lot of parents probably feel like it, they're not
like your servants, right, Like you still have to be
a functioning member of a family, of a unit, like
if your parents expect you to keep your stuff in
order or they you know. I remember my parents used
to be like, your only job is to go to
school and get good grades. That's the only thing you
have to do. I can do it, man, right, Like
(05:55):
that's it. And I remember the time I thought it
was such a such an undertaking. My dad used to
say to me almost every night, Man, what I wouldn't
give to go back to school?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah? And I'm like, yeah, you and your stupid line
that's dumb, that's dumb. I want out of here, I
want out of this prison.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And you know what, what I wouldn't give to go
back to school and learn more stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Seriously, the freedom, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think the difference is I would I would choose
what I wanted to learn and it would be on
my terms as opposed to what they make you learn
and at the time. But again, you know, youth is
wasted on a young perspective. But my god, if I'd say, yeah,
I don't know about that, okay, well, then the dinner
will be seventeen dollars, then I mean because they slip
it on you too. That's true, Yes, they chose to
(06:38):
have you, But I don't think that means that you
don't have any obligation to be a part of a unit,
right right.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, don't take advantage.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
No, my mom would send me back to Poland, like
with a one weight ticket back, like I'm from there,
but she would send me there live my grandma. She's
threatened me before when I was a kid, many of times,
like when I didn't want to help out around the
house or with my sibling or whatever. Like we're four
years apart, not that much of a difference, but I
was older.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You would have to build that house that you were farm.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Literally, my mom came from a farm with nothing, crap
in a hole like she did, like I.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Need milk for my cereal, Well, then go milk.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
It every morning, Yes exactly. She climb mountains to get
to school. I heard all about it both ways uphill,
which was crazy. I had no idea that geography in
Poland was that way. Everything is uphill all the.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Time, all the time. Walk.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I'm like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Just cannot imagine. I cannot imagine responding like that. My
dad would, my my mom really would have whooped me.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Where do they think this like code of conduct that
they're like aligning two comes from? Because you're you're under
your parents house, your parents rule. Like, where do you
think your rights are coming from? You have no rights?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I don't know your child. Of course.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Huge discussions now on her post about the balance between
family responsibilities and children's rights. Some argue that helping out
is it part of growing up. Others believe that imposing
such duties without consent can lead to resentment and hinder
personal development. In some ways, I think it developed me,
you know, and there was even stuff that they would
they would have me do and pay me for that
(08:08):
I probably should have just done. But I also had
no means of making money. And I think you know,
before a certain age when you can't get a job.
The very day I could get a job, I got
a job. But I feel like, you know, mowing the
lawn and they give me, which they claim I never did.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They argue up and down, you never ever did that,
and I'm like, no, no, I did that for years.
It's so crazy. I'm like, where do you think I
made that up? Like I remember the hiking boots I
wore to mow the law and I remember I remember,
you know, if the sprinkrs had gone off, I couldn't anyway,
don't get me started on this trauma.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Parents don't like if you say anything happened other than
like amazing, noess, They're like, no, that is so like that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm not even mad about it. I'm not y.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I tell the joke all the time that now that
I have grown up money, I want to buy a
riding lawn mower because they wouldn't let me have one,
and I want to just ride it around my parking
garriage because I can have it if I want it. Yeah,
big album Home Depot will hook me up with a discount.
Even it's amazing, But my mom calls me, you never
mowed the lawn, like what are you talking about? Anyway,
But they would pay me, like I think whatever. They'd
pay me twenty dollars to do that. And the reason
(09:13):
they would I probably shouldn't have. They probably shouldn't have
paid me twenty dollars. They probably should have done it
because well, thanks for the you know, education and food
and you know everything else. But but I think, you know,
when you're thirteen years old, you want basketball cards all
the time. It's like, all right, we'll go do something
and we'll give you the money, you know. And I
think it was like teaching you about work and being
paid and saving you can you know, do you eat
(09:34):
you know by this much now or that much later
or whatever. But even that, they didn't have to do
that if they didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, they talk better than they cite. Tell me. These
are the radio blogs on the Fresh Show.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
All right, it's like we're writing in our diaries, except
we say them aloud. We call them blogs. I haven't
done it in a while, So I'm gonna do a blog,
dear blog. I have these neighbors, very very nice people,
then down the hall from me. They're around my age.
I think we're at the same age, really same birth year.
Why do I know this because well, because I have
all their passport info.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Why do I have that?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Because we're going on a trip, the three of us
together tomorrow and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
We're going back.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
We're going back to the six We're going to Toronto.
So I meet this guy in the hallway a couple
of years ago because I know I know what.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I already know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You have looks at your faces like there's something nefarious
going on. There's a spirit in your eye like I'm
being included as a third That's what.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's what. That's what I can read. I can see.
I know you guys so well. I don't even we don't.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We can sit here and telepathically do this show, and
I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That thing we were talking about off their Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well might be first time so married, couple, very nice people.
I meet this guy a few years ago. They moved
in and he's walking down the hall with a bunch
of like, uh, pilot books, you learning how to fly? Oh,
and so I was like, hey, so we start talking
or whatever. I'm becoming a pilot. So we became friends
this way, and every now and again we go places.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well I shouldn't even say that. I think we've gone
like two places.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But anyway, I am the third wheel on this trip,
right because he's a pilot and he has a plane.
I got a little Putt putt plane, and we'd like
to go places and whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's a little strange.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I keep having to tell them, like if you guys
want to go off and do whatever you want to do,
like as I don't need to third wheel this whole
twenty four hours, right, like we're friends and whatever. But
I don't know if maybe they're hoping, like you can
the dude just bring somebody to make it even, you know,
But I'm not just gonna bring somebody. When you're not
seeing anyone and there's really no one on the horizon,
(11:36):
you don't really ask someone to leave the country with you,
like I'm not gonna. I mean, what would be a
worse impression on my friends if I get on a
dating app and go, hey, you want to go to
Canada this weekend. Like, probably not a great idea. I
feel like that's where things go awry, you know, like
I'm with a stranger in a hotel room in a
foreign country, and what if we don't get along or something.
(11:57):
So I just I just do my thing and go
along with them. But I will be honest, it's a
little strange for me. I feel like I'm intruding on
their thing. I don't think they see it that way.
I don't, but this has been the story of my
life is I'm always the third wheel because most of
my friends are married and I'm not, and I don't
typically bring people around my friends or family unless it's
really serious that it very rarely is, which means I'm
(12:19):
always the third wheel.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They're together all the time. I mean, you know this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I've crashed my parents Valentine's dinners, I've crashed birthdays, I've
all kinds of things with my parents, and they're like, look,
for thirty some years, we've been together every day all
the time. You can come to this. I'm sure they
feel the same way. They don't see it as weird
as I do, but I think it's weird.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You guys think it's a swinging situation, and it's not okay,
it's not they've never made any pass at me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But what a perfect opportunity in another country? What does
that have to do it? It's going to be romantic.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I can see the United States in Toronto. It's not
even that exotic.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah they are. They are lovely people and it's not
like that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
They're not your type.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Don't do that because.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Because if they if they hear this, they're gonna wind
up feeling rejected without ever you know what I'm saying,
want They don't right, they want nothing to do with
me sexually. Hey guys, sorry, but then what do you
(13:29):
say to that?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'd be very What do you say now? Would you
you're open to it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
If I If I say no, that I'm saying I
don't find my friends attracted. If I say yes, it's
like this guy's predator. He's taking us to Canada.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
What I'm hearing is there's a chance it would be
if they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't put me in this position. They're lovely people.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I don't think they have any interest in that, and
I don't have any interest and that it would certainly
make the neighborhood pot look a little weird. But I
keep saying to them, I'm like, guys, like, you know,
it's it's they like the flying stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I like the flying stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They're they're relatively new, you know, because I think, you know,
he's really into it, so she's into it with him,
you know what I mean. So like they're always going places,
They're always you know, it's like, you know, this is,
like I said, the ability to like jump in the
thing and go to wherever in the whoerever Traverse City
or Detroit or Milwaukee or Raleigh or wherever the hell
(14:36):
you want to you know, the West Pombie, wherever you
want to go. Is it kind of a new freedom thing.
So they're into it. So then it's like, well let's
do this and there. So it's we have this like camaraderie.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, it's a bonding moment. Are you taking sexy underwear?
Then you usually pack the first of my fully man
skipped at all times. You never know, you just never
right in the Moment's right, Okay, I'm not going to
get caught up guard.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'll tell you that right now. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I love being the third wheel though in all seriousness, like.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love these people, just it's my trip and they
just uninvited me. They're at home right now. Going this
guy is such a more I don't like being. I
like it third wheel syndrome. It is an insecurity, if
you want to call it, that, that I have had
for a very long time now because there are no
longer in my in my realm, there are no longer
(15:28):
single people like I no longer have the single buddy
I can call and say, hey, come along, because it's like, oh,
let me get this cleared, and we got soccer practice
and t ball and I don't know, maybe next month
or in six months we can do it or whatever.
And then I don't have I'm not seeing anyone with
the regularity that it's like, come to come with us.
And so rather than just bring somebody and make it
(15:50):
awkward for them, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I typically just go. I show it by myself.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
As a single person. I've learned that the couples don't care. No, seriously,
they do not care.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
They want it.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
I used to be on their dates and everything, we'd
be at the movie theaters. I'm in between them. Sure,
they do not care.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Because they spend all this time.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Together Yeah, you're putting it on yourself. And I get
like why you might feel that way, but like believe
when I say, like, a couple will tell you if
they want to be alone, and they will make that time.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And they're well aware what this is, you know, so
like they could just say no.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Right and stop you keep showing them your sexy underwear, right,
and they might.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Carry you off.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
You guys getting one hotel room or two?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's a connecting room, Okay, case of emergency. Now we're
saying it. Actually, what's funny is now we're saying two
separate the text they just texted me, can you would
you mind saying it? They hilt me down the road.
This complete and total separation. Wow, this is I sure
(16:55):
hope they're asleep,
I wanted to bring this up because my mom listens
to the show every day, and like, I wish I
could see the look on my parents' face when I
do this story. I wish I could, and I want
your genuine reaction, especially if your I don't know, twenties, thirties, forties,
You grew up with siblings.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know Caitlin did. Caitlyn.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You practically were a second mom because of the age
difference twelve years thirteen years difference between you and Bella,
your sister.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She's younger.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
A TikToker known as Shira is making waves with her
bold stance. Why do I believe that she might be
in her early twenties. I've never seen this woman. I
hate to say this, this is a generational take, but
parents are going to shiver or older siblings her bold stance.
Parents shouldn't make their kids babysit younger siblings without consent
(00:47):
and compensation. Yeah, I mean, you were a big sister too.
Can you imagine, Pauline, if Mama Marta had been like, hey,
I'm heading out tonight with my.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Cigarettes and Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah Salem, so I was gonna say Virginia slims, but
Salem Flim going out with the girls tonight. You gotta
watch your sister. And you were like, First of all,
I didn't consent to that. Second and second of all,
what will my compensation package looks like? Can you imagine now?
Look like my My parents.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Were very smart. My parents were very smart.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I have my sister seven and a half years younger,
and they were not They were no dummy. You know.
On my birthday they were were extremely generous. They gave
me a brand new car. On my birthday. They gave
me a brand new car. Was so I couldn't believe it.
Like I was convinced that I wasn't getting a car.
I was convinced that their deal was, you got two
years to make money in the summer and whatever amount
of money you can make, we'll we'll match that and
(01:41):
you can buy a car with it. Well, I didn't
make it. I didn't make that much money, so I
wouldn't have been I didn't think I was getting a car.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I got a car.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Boom Immediately, here are the keys. Oh my god, yay, congratulations,
take your sister to dance, Go get me some at
the store. Hey, go go pick up so and so
and so and so at the airport, Hey, you do
very smart. It was what an investment in the quality
of life of their own quality of life? Yeah, extremely generous.
I'm extremely grateful. I will do the exact same thing
(02:09):
if I ever have a kid. It'll be like, oh sweet,
and this is before uber and every Hey, go pick
up the Chinese food or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And for a little while you're like, oh, I get
to drive, Like I get to drive.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And after a while you're like, I don't want to
go to dance practice again. But if I had told
my parents, like, what's in it for me? You know, well,
what are you to pay me for that? We'll be like,
I don't know. How about the air you're breathing? How
about you know what you're wearing right now? How about
that car? How about the how about how about you know, eating, sustenance, education,
(02:43):
how about love? Can you imagine, Caitlin, if you had
been like, well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
First of all, I didn't agree to that, And.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Second, oh my god, can you imagine telling your parents
I don't consent.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
To that absolutely, And I had enough forethought to go like,
I mean, yeah, sometimes it was frustrating because I was
like fully, like we had like a drop off pickup schedule.
I was getting her from school, like I always had
a car seat in my backseat.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I looked like a teen mom in high school.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But I just I had enough forthought to go okay,
Like my parents have given me so much, Like the
least I can do is like help them out.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I know that as a kid, I was not grateful
enough because I didn't have an I didn't have the
perspective to realize like how hard it was for them
to provide the things they did. And I also was
around kids who had as much or more than me,
so it wasn't I had no example of how it
could look and in retrospect, like, I'm just so grateful
for all the things that they did.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But I, even then.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Even as a little snap nosed, little entitled kid, I
knew better than to ask my parents to compensate me.
Can you imagine if you told her, like, here's your
your older sister takes you in when your mom passes away,
and then and then she's already got kids, and there
are always kids, and so can you imagine if Helena
had been like, hey, I need you to do this
(04:02):
Makitha and you're like, well, well right.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
No, I would never do that for Helena.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
But I because I had a friend who was really
like a second mom to all of her siblings, and
like we would have parties to go to the skating
rink and I would be like, are you on duty tonight?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Like can you come out? You know, like I got
to watch the kids.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
And I'm like, your mom had all those kids, that's
not your responsibility. So some parents, they really do put
a lot of responsibility on the oldest.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, the oldest sibling, y'all are the strongest soldiers for real.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
No, it's I say, it's like you need to be
an oldest sibling.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think in a lot of ways, but it's we
don't choose it, and that's okay, you know, but yeah,
some parents do take advantage of it. I mean we
had bell I would throw parties in the basement and
Bella would be down there with her bottle getting passed
around by like's just you know, I mean, that's what
we would do.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
We would just go to my friend's house and babysit
at her house.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
We would all hang out.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
But you know, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
If you're treating the oldest sibling like a nanny, that's
one thing. But if you're just being asked to help
out around the house because that's what family does, and
you're over here going mmm yeah. In her viral video,
she emphasizes that children are not free labor and should
not be assigned adult responsibilities like cooking, cleaning, or babysitting
without agreement.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What are you talking about? Where are you going to live? Like?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
What are you how exactly are you expected to survive?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Your parents are also not I mean, while I think
a lot of parents probably feel like it, they're not
like your servants, right, Like you still have to be
a functioning member of a family, of a unit, like
if your parents expect you to keep your stuff in
order or they you know. I remember my parents used
to be like, your only job is to go to
school and get good grades. That's the only thing you
have to do. I can do it, man, right, Like
(05:55):
that's it. And I remember the time I thought it
was such a such an undertaking. My dad used to
say to me almost every night, Man, what I wouldn't
give to go back to school?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah? And I'm like, yeah, you and your stupid line
that's dumb, that's dumb. I want out of here, I
want out of this prison.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And you know what, what I wouldn't give to go
back to school and learn more stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Seriously, the freedom, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think the difference is I would I would choose
what I wanted to learn and it would be on
my terms as opposed to what they make you learn
and at the time. But again, you know, youth is
wasted on a young perspective. But my god, if I'd say, yeah,
I don't know about that, okay, well, then the dinner
will be seventeen dollars, then I mean because they slip
it on you too. That's true, Yes, they chose to
(06:38):
have you, But I don't think that means that you
don't have any obligation to be a part of a unit,
right right.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, don't take advantage.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
No, my mom would send me back to Poland, like
with a one weight ticket back, like I'm from there,
but she would send me there live my grandma. She's
threatened me before when I was a kid, many of times,
like when I didn't want to help out around the
house or with my sibling or whatever. Like we're four
years apart, not that much of a difference, but I
was older.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You would have to build that house that you were farm.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Literally, my mom came from a farm with nothing, crap
in a hole like she did, like I.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Need milk for my cereal, Well, then go milk.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
It every morning, Yes exactly. She climb mountains to get
to school. I heard all about it both ways uphill,
which was crazy. I had no idea that geography in
Poland was that way. Everything is uphill all the.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Time, all the time. Walk.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I'm like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Just cannot imagine. I cannot imagine responding like that. My
dad would, my my mom really would have whooped me.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Where do they think this like code of conduct that
they're like aligning two comes from? Because you're you're under
your parents house, your parents rule. Like, where do you
think your rights are coming from? You have no rights?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I don't know your child. Of course.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Huge discussions now on her post about the balance between
family responsibilities and children's rights. Some argue that helping out
is it part of growing up. Others believe that imposing
such duties without consent can lead to resentment and hinder
personal development. In some ways, I think it developed me,
you know, and there was even stuff that they would
they would have me do and pay me for that
(08:08):
I probably should have just done. But I also had
no means of making money. And I think you know,
before a certain age when you can't get a job.
The very day I could get a job, I got
a job. But I feel like, you know, mowing the
lawn and they give me, which they claim I never did.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They argue up and down, you never ever did that,
and I'm like, no, no, I did that for years.
It's so crazy. I'm like, where do you think I
made that up? Like I remember the hiking boots I
wore to mow the law and I remember I remember,
you know, if the sprinkrs had gone off, I couldn't anyway,
don't get me started on this trauma.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Parents don't like if you say anything happened other than
like amazing, noess, They're like, no, that is so like that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm not even mad about it. I'm not y.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I tell the joke all the time that now that
I have grown up money, I want to buy a
riding lawn mower because they wouldn't let me have one,
and I want to just ride it around my parking
garriage because I can have it if I want it. Yeah,
big album Home Depot will hook me up with a discount.
Even it's amazing, But my mom calls me, you never
mowed the lawn, like what are you talking about? Anyway,
But they would pay me, like I think whatever. They'd
pay me twenty dollars to do that. And the reason
(09:13):
they would I probably shouldn't have. They probably shouldn't have
paid me twenty dollars. They probably should have done it
because well, thanks for the you know, education and food
and you know everything else. But but I think, you know,
when you're thirteen years old, you want basketball cards all
the time. It's like, all right, we'll go do something
and we'll give you the money, you know. And I
think it was like teaching you about work and being
paid and saving you can you know, do you eat
(09:34):
you know by this much now or that much later
or whatever. But even that, they didn't have to do
that if they didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, they talk better than they cite. Tell me. These
are the radio blogs on the Fresh Show.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
All right, it's like we're writing in our diaries, except
we say them aloud. We call them blogs. I haven't
done it in a while, So I'm gonna do a blog,
dear blog. I have these neighbors, very very nice people,
then down the hall from me. They're around my age.
I think we're at the same age, really same birth year.
Why do I know this because well, because I have
all their passport info.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Why do I have that?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Because we're going on a trip, the three of us
together tomorrow and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
We're going back.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
We're going back to the six We're going to Toronto.
So I meet this guy in the hallway a couple
of years ago because I know I know what.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I already know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You have looks at your faces like there's something nefarious
going on. There's a spirit in your eye like I'm
being included as a third That's what.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's what. That's what I can read. I can see.
I know you guys so well. I don't even we don't.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We can sit here and telepathically do this show, and
I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That thing we were talking about off their Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well might be first time so married, couple, very nice people.
I meet this guy a few years ago. They moved
in and he's walking down the hall with a bunch
of like, uh, pilot books, you learning how to fly? Oh,
and so I was like, hey, so we start talking
or whatever. I'm becoming a pilot. So we became friends
this way, and every now and again we go places.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well I shouldn't even say that. I think we've gone
like two places.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But anyway, I am the third wheel on this trip,
right because he's a pilot and he has a plane.
I got a little Putt putt plane, and we'd like
to go places and whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But it's a little strange.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I keep having to tell them, like if you guys
want to go off and do whatever you want to do,
like as I don't need to third wheel this whole
twenty four hours, right, like we're friends and whatever. But
I don't know if maybe they're hoping, like you can
the dude just bring somebody to make it even, you know,
But I'm not just gonna bring somebody. When you're not
seeing anyone and there's really no one on the horizon,
(11:36):
you don't really ask someone to leave the country with you,
like I'm not gonna. I mean, what would be a
worse impression on my friends if I get on a
dating app and go, hey, you want to go to
Canada this weekend. Like, probably not a great idea. I
feel like that's where things go awry, you know, like
I'm with a stranger in a hotel room in a
foreign country, and what if we don't get along or something.
(11:57):
So I just I just do my thing and go
along with them. But I will be honest, it's a
little strange for me. I feel like I'm intruding on
their thing. I don't think they see it that way.
I don't, but this has been the story of my
life is I'm always the third wheel because most of
my friends are married and I'm not, and I don't
typically bring people around my friends or family unless it's
really serious that it very rarely is, which means I'm
(12:19):
always the third wheel.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They're together all the time. I mean, you know this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I've crashed my parents Valentine's dinners, I've crashed birthdays, I've
all kinds of things with my parents, and they're like, look,
for thirty some years, we've been together every day all
the time. You can come to this. I'm sure they
feel the same way. They don't see it as weird
as I do, but I think it's weird.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You guys think it's a swinging situation, and it's not okay,
it's not they've never made any pass at me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But what a perfect opportunity in another country? What does
that have to do it? It's going to be romantic.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I can see the United States in Toronto. It's not
even that exotic.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah they are. They are lovely people and it's not
like that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
They're not your type.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Don't do that because.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Because if they if they hear this, they're gonna wind
up feeling rejected without ever you know what I'm saying,
want They don't right, they want nothing to do with
me sexually. Hey guys, sorry, but then what do you
(13:29):
say to that?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'd be very What do you say now? Would you
you're open to it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
If I If I say no, that I'm saying I
don't find my friends attracted. If I say yes, it's
like this guy's predator. He's taking us to Canada.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
What I'm hearing is there's a chance it would be
if they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't put me in this position. They're lovely people.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I don't think they have any interest in that, and
I don't have any interest and that it would certainly
make the neighborhood pot look a little weird. But I
keep saying to them, I'm like, guys, like, you know,
it's it's they like the flying stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I like the flying stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They're they're relatively new, you know, because I think, you know,
he's really into it, so she's into it with him,
you know what I mean. So like they're always going places,
They're always you know, it's like, you know, this is,
like I said, the ability to like jump in the
thing and go to wherever in the whoerever Traverse City
or Detroit or Milwaukee or Raleigh or wherever the hell
(14:36):
you want to you know, the West Pombie, wherever you
want to go. Is it kind of a new freedom thing.
So they're into it. So then it's like, well let's
do this and there. So it's we have this like camaraderie.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, it's a bonding moment. Are you taking sexy underwear?
Then you usually pack the first of my fully man
skipped at all times. You never know, you just never
right in the Moment's right, Okay, I'm not going to
get caught up guard.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'll tell you that right now. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I love being the third wheel though in all seriousness, like.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love these people, just it's my trip and they
just uninvited me. They're at home right now. Going this
guy is such a more I don't like being. I
like it third wheel syndrome. It is an insecurity, if
you want to call it, that, that I have had
for a very long time now because there are no
longer in my in my realm, there are no longer
(15:28):
single people like I no longer have the single buddy
I can call and say, hey, come along, because it's like, oh,
let me get this cleared, and we got soccer practice
and t ball and I don't know, maybe next month
or in six months we can do it or whatever.
And then I don't have I'm not seeing anyone with
the regularity that it's like, come to come with us.
And so rather than just bring somebody and make it
(15:50):
awkward for them, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I typically just go. I show it by myself.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
As a single person. I've learned that the couples don't care. No, seriously,
they do not care.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
They want it.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
I used to be on their dates and everything, we'd
be at the movie theaters. I'm in between them. Sure,
they do not care.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Because they spend all this time.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Together Yeah, you're putting it on yourself. And I get
like why you might feel that way, but like believe
when I say, like, a couple will tell you if
they want to be alone, and they will make that time.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And they're well aware what this is, you know, so
like they could just say no.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Right and stop you keep showing them your sexy underwear, right,
and they might.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Carry you off.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
You guys getting one hotel room or two?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's a connecting room, Okay, case of emergency. Now we're
saying it. Actually, what's funny is now we're saying two
separate the text they just texted me, can you would
you mind saying it? They hilt me down the road.
This complete and total separation. Wow, this is I sure
(16:55):
hope they're asleep,
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