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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a new survey SS at gen Z might be the

(00:43):
most practical generation When it comes to romance. Nearly half
of people win asked said that they would take long
term financial security over falling in love. About a third
admit that they would even consider getting back together with
an X if that person had struck it rich Hella.
When it comes to income, ten percent of gen Z
women say that their dream partner makes over two hundred

(01:04):
grand a year. Well, most won't takeiky. You just could
hold it on two hundred, Well, most of them settle
for less than eighty, and forty six percent say that
they wouldn't date someone unemployed, no matter how attractive they are.
So here's my question, simple, very simple. Would you take

(01:26):
money or love? You can only have one you, and
don't I not only hear any converrom but the question is, well,
but but what about no? That's right? And then I
guess Part two of this is, would you write I'm
standing on business twice a day? Don't start? Would you
would you take an X back if they struck it rich?

(01:48):
So those are my two questions for you. Eight five
five five one three five And everyone's kind of nodding
their head. It's not that easy of a question to answer.
I'm taking money. I'm taking money over romantic levinyda, because
I you know, I could love myself in Bora Bora,
in an overwater bungalow. I could love myself several times.

(02:10):
I could wear myself out. Well see, look, I'm just
as a person who's you know, been on my own
for a long time, you become very self reliant, and yeah,
there are moments when you like a companionship would be cool.
But then there are moments when I'm like, but I
you know, if you're tell me I'm rich, I'm not.
But then I could if I in this scenario, I
could say but that I'm rich, and then I could

(02:32):
go do something you know or I don't know, it
would go. There are other ways I think to find
happiness and fulfill yourself that don't require another human being.
I take the money and I'm sorry, but there's no X,
no X out there, not one that if they struck
it rich, I'd be like, great, sure, let's do it.
Because then it's just whatever issue caused that, you know,
the breakup, compounded by the fact that they now control

(02:55):
you with their money. So no, someone texted Mary for
make your own money. No, next question, I rebuk that
whoever's although I'm not dating someone who doesn't have a job,
let's at least be stable.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No, Jason's very offended by that. Yes, how dare you?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
If you would have asked me, like, I don't know,
five to ten years ago, I would have said.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Go for the money, go for the money. Go for
the money.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
But now now that I'm finally wearing Mike enough down
to where he's showing little bits of affection, I'm like, wait,
it does feel nice to be loved, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
So now my eighteen years, it.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Only took fourteen years for him to break his cold
ass heart, and you know now I'm like, oh, wait,
it does feel nice when he does little things. So
I don't know, it's hard that the money. I mean,
it's nice to feel like I guess like there's always
like a little you know, not if you get into
a hard situation.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
But I don't know. I was gonna say, you can't
pay your student loans off, and he pays all the bills. Yeah,
so imagine with it the money is coming in very
very handy. Yes, I think, Paulina, money or love, you
can only pick one.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'd say money maybe at this point, yeah, I mean yeah,
like you know, a cost to.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Live fantastic lives to cost? Does it does costs a
little to cost. I don't know, Kiky, you take the
money because I heard you said two hundred thousand and
you just got I mean you got a little excited.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah, man, I'll take the money. I mean, like you said,
I can love really really be in love in a
G five Mercedes bands, like I can really like the
bench truck. Oh yeah, I would love you so bad,
you know, so like just.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
This imaginary thing, because yeah, right, you're not loving anyone.
I would love you. It's hard to love broke and
I know he was taking she's taking love. I don't
we have to ask the question. I think love.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
So so I'll either only ever have money or.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Love my entire life. That's the scenario. Okay, so I
will never experience love. See I knew somebody was gonna
try and like, but what about a little love? And
then it's for money that's up standing on business, which
one is.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Okay, so throughout my whole life, then I would have
to choose love.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
See I knew. I'm like, we know each other for
a long time. Who knew?

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Because I know rich people that are very sad, but
they're rich.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Is it Dale, yes, Gail, Yeah, because d A. L
Is not a name anyway. It's like but the one
time I don't say it the way that it's written,
it's going to be like no, it's you know, you know,
And then then I'm like ignorant and sensitive and something anyway,

(05:35):
So hi, Hi, Gael. Not named Dale because there isn't
it because there's not a named Dale anyway, Well there
is at Dale, but it wouldn't even be spelled that
way if there were. Okay, So please, I want to say, girl.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
I'm shocked at your answer for at it because you
have bought people like you make. You make your own
money yourself, so it's painful to even sit across from
some for a two hour dinner that you're not into.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now, Gail Dale, hold on a second, because because I
wouldn't want to be with someone else for their money.
I mean, I think this is love or money. I'm
assuming the necessaria of the money is mine, so I
don't need I don't need to fake the love for
the money. So if I if it's either be rich
and alone or be in love and not have any money,

(06:23):
I think I would rather be rich if I had
to choose, I think I'd rather be rich with money
because I feel like, yes, you would be lonely, but
there are other ways to fulfill yourself. I think as
a person who.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Doesn't don't, you're asking whether you should love for money
or love for love or marry for money or those
two options.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well that part yeah. Now part two, Gail, was would
you go back to an X who won the lottery
or struck it rich? Now that I wouldn't do.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
No, Yeah, okay, they're back there for a reason.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's right, we're on the same page because the problems
wouldn't get anybody. If I know one thing about going
back to an X, it almost never changes except now
they're rich, which means now whatever the issues are going
to be compounded because you're staying with them. It's like
you have to put up with it because they're rich.
So that's not going to work. HEADA Gail Dale, Hey
love you by thanks for calling Illiana. Yes, hey, how

(07:18):
you doing?

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh my god, I love you guys so much.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
I literally listen to you guys every day.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, thank you so much. We love you for that. Okay,
So you got the love or money and no other compromise.
You either can be in love or you have lots
of money. What do you choose?

Speaker 9 (07:33):
I choose love as somebody who has experienced and seen
like my grandma always chose money. And yeah she's had
always had money and she's always been very financially well
and stable, but she's been miserable.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
And it's like and you notice that, and you see that,
and it's.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
Like, yeah, you have this money, but you're alone. You're
not doing anything with your money, You're not being happy,
Like I feel like you truly have to be happy
with yourself to be happy with only money. And I
feel like in this world, ain't nobody really that happy
with themselves.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
To just be okay with money? I will say, Ileana peoples,
they use the word alone and it's always, almost always
in a negative context, and I think it's maybe people
should learn to be alone. Sometimes you don't have to
be but it's like alone, alone, alone, like it's a
bad thing. Being alone is not inherently a bad thing,
but you're right if you hate yourself and your torture

(08:27):
with your own thoughts, and being alone is a bad thing.
But if you were rich, you could hire a therapist.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
And it's like yeah, but it's like money can bring
you a lot of things, but money will never bring
you genuine love.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I love. I could learn to love myself and
be I hear you though, thank you, have a good day.
Thank you you guys to have a great week. But
thank you everybody I know, not everybody, most people I
know it's alone, alone, alone, like it's a bad thing
being alone. I think more people should be able to
be alone. And if you want a companion, that's fine.

(09:02):
But if you're able to be alone and then you're
able to function in a companionship, I think that's the
best of both worlds. A lot of people, we all
know them, they cannot be alone. That's a good point.
Think it's just the alone forever is just like the yeah,
you know, to think out. I like the rich forever. Jamie,
how you doing? Good morning?

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Good morning?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
How are you, Jamie? So you got two choices? Love
or money? That's it? Gen Z picks money? What do
you pick.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Money?

Speaker 10 (09:32):
All day?

Speaker 11 (09:33):
I got my own money.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
I don't need your money.

Speaker 11 (09:36):
We just need to make money together and travel and
live life.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, fair enough. So you would be quote unquote I'm
gonna call it independent. You'd be independent, not alone. You'd
be on your own and rich. You would choose that absolutely. Okay,
there you have it, Thank you, Jamie. All right, love
you too. Hey, how you doing, tay? Hey you take
that money?

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 11 (10:03):
I don't want to say. It was so funny because
Whendella answered, she was like, is this hey, I call
a way too much?

Speaker 6 (10:10):
As much as you want, but yeah, I'm taking the money.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Do you know how much gas is?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
No, I'm familiar, like diapers are expensive, and no, I'm
taking the money.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Hold on a second, how did you make the if
you took the money, was it like Tay for love?
I guess you said, wow, wow, Ty just paid to
get knocked up. But she's rich. She could buy the diaper.
She'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yes, And then January comes around and I'm even more
rich when I touched her.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
You know, wow, okay, fair enough. Wow, So it's buying babies,
but she's rich, so it's fine. He'll be rid. I
got it. I don't think that's legal, but if you're rich,
a lot of things are possible. So thank you, Tay,
have a good day. Glad you called. Let's do blogs
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(11:00):
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(11:44):
A fresh show. It's Kiki's Court.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
All rise, the.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Honorable Kikili Judge Kiki take it away?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
All right, let's get into the courtroom. The gabble has
been hit, it says Kiki. Am I wrong for telling
them mom her daughter deserved to be left out because
she's a My daughter's been relentlessly bullied at school and
in her summer gymnastics league by my neighbor's daughter. The
kid is a terrorist from name calling, physical attacks, the works.

(12:11):
But my kid has come home crying multiple times, so
I've talked to her parents, who always make excuses, and
the school. I've talked to them too, but nothing changes.
I finally told my daughter she can defend herself if needed.
And for her birthday, I bought shriek bags and party
invites for her gymnastics class. I brought them for everyone

(12:33):
except for the bully. At the end of the class,
I told everyone to stay. Then when the bully approached
me and her mom, I said, oh, you two can leave.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
This isn't for your kid.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Her mom exploded, calling my kid a punk, and then
stormed out. The instructor lectured me on fairness, but I
think it's time.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That the bully feels what she dishes out.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Some parents say I cross the line, but I want
you guys to tell me and my wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah. I know I need.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
I need the jury away in because I know I'm
going to be off on this one because.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I grew up, are you though. I grew up in
a house where it was like, don't come in here
crying about no bully.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
If somebody is bullying you, you need to meet them
where they're at and I'll leave it at that, and
then you come back and tell me how you met them.
Where they at and that's it. You know, it was
very much go handle your bully, and she handled this.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
And I know that bullying has gone to a different
level now We've talked about this before with social media
and all. You know, it's just like it's never ending.
As were when we were younger, there was less of
that and it was more just you know, you had
to deal with them one on one at school, on
the playground, whatever it was. At the same time, though,
you know that aside, I also think you can't ignore

(13:50):
all bullying because then your kids grow up and they
into adults to get bullied by other adults because it
happens all the time as grown ups and they're not
equipped to handle that. Like some amount of that you
have to learn how to deal with as a human being,
because people are not nice now, people bullied. You know,
there are bullies all over the place, and you're not

(14:11):
going to avoid them, so you can't just hide from
them or make them go away or quit your job
every time. So I get that, but I don't know,
what do you think.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
I thought it was brilliant and very petty to have,
you know, you announced to the entire gymnastics class everybody
stay back, everybody stay behind. I have treats for all
the children, and then you line up all the kids
and the right when this little girl comes to the
front of the line, you're like, oh, honey, not you.
You know you could go by, that would slow down.

(14:41):
That was but it was kind of brilliant.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, but it's like, is there a different way to
handle it?

Speaker 10 (14:47):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Likely, I mean, not ignore it by any means, but
like all the kids get treated the same, and then
you handle it with the parent. Maybe, but if it's
like way out of control, because I mean, every every
parent listening now is like raw rye. I want to
beat up the kid that is mean to my kid.
But at the same time, you know, returning fire in
the same way. Is that is that really right thing

(15:09):
to do? Because I don't think to beat a bully.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
You don't become a bully, right, you don't become a bully,
but you do confront a bully, if that makes sense.

Speaker 10 (15:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think there's a parenting crisis right now happening where
people aren't, you know, really teaching their children certain things.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And that's just my hot take.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I do feel that if your child is a bully,
I think that's something that you and you we are
a parent, you know your child is the bully, like
don't play with me like you didn't, you know, And
as a parent, I think that's something that you need
to step in on, Like I would never allow my
daughter to ever bully another child. I've seen my best
friend get bullied, you know, growing up, Like I don't
like that. I ride for that hard, and that's something

(15:48):
that I don't I think that we're not doing a
good job. We're throwing iPads at kids and letting them
say what they want, to do what they want actss
social media. Like you mentioned Fred, things are different now
when it comes to bullying when we're a kid, what
like you took my lunch money?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't know, but the parent calling the kid a punk.
The parents say that to a kid, That tells you
where it's coming. That tells you there's no account of bbility. Again,
it starts at home. So I'm really big on that.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
And I don't know, like I wouldn't want my kids
bully at the birthday party either. Now the parents need
to figure this out and not name calic you said,
don't do any of that. I think there's ways to
handle it. It's just it's not with the kids like
it's between the adults at that point.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
That's my opinion. Hey Joe, yes, all right, you guys
are the jury eight flash five five nine one one
oh three five? What do you what say you?

Speaker 12 (16:31):
I say you that she did the right thing. M okay,
my daughter, My daughter was bullied for a little while
and we kind of did the same thing, me and
my wife. We we kind of brushed it on the rug. Oh,
it's not a big deal. It's your friends. You guys
are girls. You'll be friends again in a week, it'll
be over with. But it didn't. And we told her
to stand up for herself, and when she did, they

(16:54):
started to back off and the parents got concerned. And
we had mentioned to the parents that listen, we've brought
this to your attention multiple times, even to the school.
Like I even told my daughter, like I will deal
with the school. Don't worry about it. And I had
a long conversation with the principal. But I had to
explain to our daughter that you know, if you let
this happen now, it's going to continue to happen and

(17:15):
all through high school and and everything, and you have
to just put it in the butt and that don't
go pull off, you know, beating her up and assaulting
her and stuff. But you know, at the same time
you have to defend yourself and stand your ground because
you know, even in middle school it can get worse.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's tricky because I
mean I want to say, as far as the kids
are concerned, killing with kindness almost as if the bullying
doesn't matter, like you don't really have a voice, you're
not really influencing my decisions. But at the same time
it is and you wanted to stop, but then the
retaliation bullying, what does that accomplish. I mean, I'm not

(17:55):
saying yeah, no, I'm saying this. I'm not saying no,
but that's what that's what they did the mom and
that that's what they did.

Speaker 12 (18:03):
Yeah, I mean it feels and I guess I can
understand where they're coming from, right, because if you try
multiple things and you have tried them with kindness, kill
them with kindness before and it doesn't work. I mean,
you know, we don't know what kind of bullying was
going on, whether it was physical, whether it was social
media media type bulliant. You know, there's so much now.
For we were kids, it was just you got picked

(18:25):
on and that was it. There's so much type of
bullying now that it mentally, I literally see it every
day mentally affect people that they probably said, we can't
do this anymore. Let's do this instead of doing something physical.
Let's start with this and see if this works. Before
they resulted in, you know, the child hitting them and
then them sticking up for themselves and hitting them back.

(18:46):
Maybe it's let's not invite them to the party so
they can kind of get a little taste to how
it feels, and maybe that right there will change their attitude.
But I don't think it did.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hi Joe, thank you. Have a good day you as well.

Speaker 12 (18:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Glad you called hey Rico, Yeah, hey, how's going on?
Go hey Man? So you were you were the bully?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I was, Yeah, I was. I regret it. I regret
it a hundred times fold, really I do. And no,
and then like I don't know, one day, I don't know,
I started defending one of one of the people that
I was making fun of, and I was like, I
kind of beat them up a little bit. I got

(19:28):
funded from the bush.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
How do you kind of beat up a little bit.
I'm just kidding. How do you kind of beat them up?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
But anyway, you know, just like I don't know, just
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I just mad him up a little bit. Yeah, okay,
a little bit. But then you how you switch side though?
You saw the light?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I did, Yeah, I did, and and and now that
I look back on it, I'm like, I regret that
one hundred timesfold. And I'm just like, these people aren't
aren't they're they're not geeks.

Speaker 12 (19:57):
They're they're they're really.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Cool people, you know, yes, no, And then well the
thing is, so the thing is I actually became one
of them. I became a geek. I wasn't in the band.

Speaker 12 (20:10):
Also, I was a bank.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
See how things turn. One day, one day, somebody up
a little bit. The next day you're you're the guy
right right right, But you saw you saw that it
wasn't right, and that's that's good. Good for you, man, Hey,
have a good day. Yes, oh yeah, I know you guys, Yeah, no,

(20:33):
thank you. You can continue with the compliments. But I
know I was he saw the light, he saw the
other side, because you know what I mean, you're growing
up and people bully you, and you'll come home and
your parents will be like, you know, that says more
about them than it is it's about you. And you know,
I don't know all these all these cliche things that
may be true, they don't help at the time, but
the fact is this is going to be present your

(20:55):
whole life.

Speaker 10 (20:55):
It is.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean, to this day, we all still deal with
bullies who think they're more important than they are, people
who you know, say mean things and then hide whatever
is it's it's it's never going to end, so you
have to be equipped to deal with it. In some regard,
I would agree it's worse now than it's ever been,
because it's it's it's relentless, you know, from all different angles,
and you can hide behind screen names and accounts and whatever.

(21:19):
But I don't know that my parents ever would have
My parents definitely there were kids they didn't like, and
and you know I knew that, but I don't know
that they were going to treat the kids that way
because what message does that send, right, I mean, it's
it's retaliation bullying, essentially. I don't know. I mean, there
are parents wistly now I'm sure going good good for
that mom, but then would you really do that? I'm

(21:41):
not sure, Stacy.

Speaker 11 (21:42):
Hi, hi, Hi?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So are you a parent? Yes? I am, okay? So
would you would you retaliate on a bully? Like if
your go son or daughter came home and like in
this case, it said this person is being mean to me,
would you then get involved?

Speaker 11 (21:58):
Yes. Well that's why I actually give the parents a
round of applause for calling out the bully, because the
parents these days with the generation, don't teach their kids
any type of respect. And if you want to live
in this society, you got to have some kind of
you know, thank you, please and all that other stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
But what are you teaching, Stacy if everybody gets a
treat except for the one kid. You know, what are
you saying? Essentially? I mean, you're saying that it's okay
to bully.

Speaker 11 (22:29):
Being a bully. If you want to live in the society,
then have some type of mental stability to let you
be in the society with everybody else, because nowadays, with
people like that, you don't want to bring them in
your thing, not knowing if they don't have any type
of mental issues, and if they're going to come and
shoot up.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
Your party, well that's that's that's where it ends up leaving,
because that's where it ends up leading too, because they
want to start saying that they get depressed.

Speaker 11 (22:57):
Because people leave them out because they're being bullied, you know,
and then when they start being depressed and they start
thinking about harming theirself.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Okay, all right, Stacy, Well thank you, have a good day.
I mean dad took a turn and turned into an
episode of b mess. I don't know though, see, I
guess from my perspective, as as somebody who I don't know,
not everybody. I was kind of middle of the road.
I mean, there were people that made fun of me
because I was obsessed with radio and said it would

(23:26):
never happen, and I don't know, you're you're a doork
for that, And then there were people that were nice
to me. I I was right in the middle. But
I guess at the time my parents retaliating wouldn't have
helped a whole lot. If anything, their message was not
killing with kindness, which is easy to say, but it's
almost like by by not giving her a treat or
not giving her not including her in with the rest
of the group, you're essentially saying you're on you got

(23:47):
under my skin. I don't like you, and and and
i'm you affected me, and I think to a certain extent,
if you can learn to rise above it, It's almost
like here with a smile, everybody knows the person who's
mean to you, and you're still kind to them even
though you don't like them. And I know that it's
so crushing inside for the person who you're still nice

(24:08):
to even when they're mean to you, And I think
there's something to be It's almost like I'm teaching you
that that person's words don't matter and that you'll just
continue to give good energy. But if I don't know,
if my mom comes down there and solves my problems
for me, is that what am I learning from that?
I think you're sending the wrong message.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Though, if I'm inviting the bully to my birthday party
or my kids birthday party, like I'm rewarding your behavior
at that point, because what everybody gets to come over,
it gets a trophy. I personally don't like that children
take their lives for this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I don't play like this was this was like at
a class, wasn't it like everybody was there? Yeah, they
were in gymnastics, class. Yeah, I think you're more than
welcome to have a party and not invite everybody. I
think that's fine. I'm not going to invite the boy
to my house, no, but if it's in front of everybody,
I don't know. I feel like that's probably the message
is what you know.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
What is getting me though, the mom of the bully,
Like you had the audacity and the nerve to get
in line to get a treat back. And you know
that your child is a bully, and you know I've
confronted you about it before, So like that on you
to get in line thinking your kid deserves something when
you know your kid is a bully.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
What we all know what, we all know where it's
coming from them. You know, the lack of awareness means
that the parent is instilling this and the kids exactly.
Hey Lena, you're okay with this and you're a school counselor.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Oh yes, yes, yes I am.

Speaker 13 (25:22):
And the reason why I say that is because the
kids nowadays are an entirely different breed. I've been doing
this for over six years now, and I can see
the change in the way the kids interact with each other.
And you know, I feel like.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
It it gives the bully, you know, because when a
kid is being bullied and you know they're the ones
that are doing the bullying, they have that sense of power.
But I almost feel like what the mom did just
kind of help knock that child down a little bit
and maybe hopefully in the future they won't continue to
do the same behavior.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah. No, I see both sides of this. I mean,
I know what I would want to do was a parent,
and I want to kick the little kid's ass. Yeah,
But at the same time that I have, I have
to think, like, Okay, what what is the lesson I'm teaching?
What am I instilling in my kid? Am I saying
that I'll just I'll be there for every every difficult
situation that my kids in and I'll fix it because
I won't be you know. And again, it's not like

(26:18):
this was in front of everybody. This was It wasn't
as though this was at my house and that we
were required to invite a kid. No, we weren't. Like
this was in a thing that we're all involved with
together and one of the kids is a little jerk,
and I feel like there's always going to be a
little jerk for sure.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, I definitely, I can see both sides, but I
don't know. I feel like the Mama Bear and me
definitely would have been like, Okay, no, we need to
take you down a little bit. But I do think that,
you know, I have a feeling that they're not going
to have any issues with that kid anymore though, and hopefully,

(26:54):
you know, yeah, things will get better.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, I hope so too. Thank you, Lena, all Right,
have a good day. I'm glad you called. Hey, Michelle, Hi,
Michelle Kicky's court. So basically, it's it's a bullying situation
in a gymnastics class and there was a party of
some kind and the kid being bullied gave that little
treats to everybody except the and the mom, except for

(27:18):
the kid who was the bully, And then the bully's
mom got involved and it was sort of this tussle. Well,
I mean, what do you think, I.

Speaker 14 (27:28):
Mean, somebody that I saw a bullying around me, I
just have a question about the other people that witnessed it.
Bullying usually doesn't happen online closed doors. It happened in
front of other people, in front of coaches, in front
of other kids. Like it also comes down to the
people that witnessed it. How is that not complacency? So

(27:49):
I guess it just comes down to I guess yes,
I think it could have been helpful because it puts
the bully in the place. But it's kind of chicken
or the egg, which one comes first. It really comes
down to what about the community around that watched it happen?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
The mom says she's spoken to everyone, the school administrator,
she went to the parents, and nobody's taking her please seriously.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So she's like, okay, I'll take matters into my own hands. Yeah. Yeah, teammates,
so one, are the other kids that standing up?

Speaker 14 (28:23):
Yeah, those that were being bullied around me?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, this seems like young kids. Yeah, and the gymnastics.
I don't know. I wouldn't put the the responsibility on
the other kids. I've already approached the parents and the
adults in the situation.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Michelle, have a good day.

Speaker 12 (28:40):
Thanks you too.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I want to say, Antonio, hey, go ahead, you doing
and tell you don't agree with me? I gotta go. Sorry,
we have a nice day. Thanks for calling. No, what
do you want to say? I get where you're going
with it.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
I'm a parent of three, and I don't want to
call it revenge bullying because it's really hard to get
kids to stand up for themselves when it's like not
naturally in them. As she mentioned, it's something that's happened
at school, it's happened at gymnastic, and it's became physical.
Most people would have been lost it at that point,
and evening you personally, I'm a challenge to parent at
that point. I need to see what's going on and

(29:18):
if you're not going to correct your child, I'm going.

Speaker 12 (29:20):
To correct your child. And I thought that was.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
Very gentle, a very gentle response, and for it, that's
a Fox move.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Baby, you out smarter them. You don't get physical, you're
out smart them. That's a Fox move. Well, but I
agree with you that, like, let's have the conversation among parents,
and as hard as it is to do and as
much as I don't necessarily always do this in my
life and would like to, the killing with kindest thing
is the move because what you're saying to the bully
kid or adult is that you are not getting under

(29:48):
my skin, like I'm going to continue to be nice
to you because we're not. And it's hard to do,
but like if I still give you this present, like
everybody else or whatever, it's just like, at what point
do they get bored and move on to somebody else
and they.

Speaker 10 (30:02):
Didn't and attack them or antagonize them. It's just more
you don't deserve to be there. And we have a
writer's people. Especially as the mom said, I know that
she went a little off the richter with the school shooting,
but that happens. I've been in a situation where my
kid was at a school and this kid like that.
That's nothing nobody wants to ever be a part of.

(30:23):
We don't know where it starts, so we have to
be proactive and not reactive in them situations. And I'll
tell you get stressed anxiety, like to be around somebody
who treats mistreats you. That's a very uncomfortable situation for
an adult. That's crazy off the chart for a kid.
And like I say, I agree with what you're saying
as far as like, we don't want that to be
teddy hypocritical. It can't get that's a fine line.

Speaker 12 (30:45):
So I agree with what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (30:47):
But I thought as a dad that was gentle because
I don't have that in me like.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That, So I thought that was really clever.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah. No, see, I know what I'd like to do.
I just would hope I wouldn't do it because, and
tell you, everyone knows what you do. You smile to
their face and you get online with the fakes rename
and you say that, uh, you know, the mom's got
drugs in her house. She called the cops, get the docs,
and we get the swat team out there. Everyone knows
what that's how you handle it.

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