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October 24, 2025 22 mins

Fred tells us all about the latest arrests made by the FBI in the NBA sports betting scandal. Plus, would you wait until marriage for your first kiss? Fred and the crew discuss!

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It's all good. Biggest stories of the day. I do
have Jason's NFL pick. Jason is in Miami for the
FISL iHeartRadio FISA Latina, which is I mean every year
he has to They have to have him there. There's
no way that they can even perform without Jason because
when I think FIS Latina, I think Jason Brown obviously,

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and a sixteen hundred day streak on Julipa whatever it's called.
But I have his picks here, and I don't have
the games. He just told me who's gonna win now,
he said the charges the Chargers are gonna win, and
I think they did win last night, so there's one.
So the charge is one, so he's one to o.

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Maybe we should just stop there. Dolphins, Bears, Bengals, Panthers,
four Niners, Browns, Giants, Saints, tight Huns as he would
say it, Cowboy Nation, Steelers, and Chiefs will all be
winners this weekend, and the par sleigh all financed. Jalen
Hurts will score a run in Jackson Smith. I'm nahiba,

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I'm sure I said that in the last name wrong.
I'm so sorry. He floods my basement and is going
to catch five times, and Jamar Gibbs rather has lush
his hair and will score one time. Jamir did I
say Jimmy the second time? I don't know. Anyway, Anyway,
he is lush his hair, which is more important. Yeah,
and all that. I'm just a little thrown off by that.

(03:00):
I just said that someone will make my will flood
my basement. So anyway, there you go. Those are your picks.
You can go back on the iHeart app and listen
and you can even bet. The fact that no one
has funsored this segment is unbelievable to me. The fact
that no betting site has come on board on Jason's
Brown NFL picks, I mean, absolutely classic and epic and
always correct. So I don't know what's going on with them,

(03:22):
speaking of professional sports. I'm sad that Jason's out here
to report on this. Maybe that's what he's really doing.
Maybe he's not in Miami for a Fiesta Latina. Maybe
he's hanging out with the FBI and he's trying to
get all the inside scoop on this. But more than
thirty people I've now been indicted after a lengthy federal
investigation into illegal sports betting operations. Key names in the

(03:42):
indictments include Chauncey Billups, who's the head coach of the
Portland Trail Blazers, Terry Rozier, who's a guard for the
Miami Heaton, Damon Jones, who is a former NBA player
and assistant coach. The allegations insiders passed non public information
like injuries, lineup changes, and more to betters, and one
scheme involved the use of tech to cheat at underground

(04:03):
poker games backed by organized crime families. So this is wild.
You got the mafia, you got NBA professional sports, former athletes,
all this stuff. Lebron James has been indirectly linked to
the NBA's growing gambling scandal. After the investigators accused his
close friend and former teammate of leaking his injury details

(04:24):
to Better's. Prosecutors say that this guy told a gamber
to bet against the Lakers in February of twenty twenty
three because Shams wouldn't play, and he didn't. He allegedly
shared more injury tips for money, but isn't accused of
fixing games. Lebron James himself isn't under investigation and he's
not suspected of any wrongdoing either. And then the tech
they're talking about is that there were four major New

(04:45):
York crime families who teamed up in a high stakes
illegal poker ring using AI or advanced tech. Rather, the
tech included so called x ray poker tables that were
modified with LEDs or cameras to read the face down
cards through the fell, plus card trades with hidden cameras,
decoy phones with card reading ability, and decks with infrared

(05:05):
or barcode marking visible only with special glasses or contact lenses.
These devices are apparently being sold online for hundreds to
thousands of dollars. The games then targeted wealthy gamblers, including
former or current NBA stars. Losses to victims of IT,
I guess in some cases seven million dollars or more.
One victim alone reportedly lost one point eight million dollars

(05:26):
in a single game. So I don't know what all
this is, what all this means, what you know?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Between this and the louver thing, Like the news stories
feel like they're like old timey.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It doesn't feel real.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like a George Clooney.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Movie, Like yeah, okay, we're we're taking a ladder and
we're stealing from like one of the biggest museums in
the world. And now we got the mafia in illegal
gambling rings.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, well I have an update on that too. So
the excellent transition, I'll get to that tropical store. Melissa
is turning in the Caribbean Sea and will likely strengthened
to a major hurricane by the weekend. Mederologists warn that
Melissa poses a serious flooding threat to Jamaica among other
places in the region, as heavy rainfall is expected to
persist for several consecutive days. The storm's outer vans are

(06:11):
already rushing Jamaica and western Haiti, where hurricane watches are
in effect. The tropical storm warning is also an effect
for these islands, where officials are urging residents to prepare
for power outages, landslides, and dangerous seas. Alaska Airlines has
resumed operations after an information technology program forced hundreds of
flights to be grounded on Thursday. A groundstop for all

(06:32):
Alaska flights and its subsidiary, Horizon Air was looked at
at eleven thirty pm last night. The groundstop was requested
by the airline about eight hours earlier when the IT
outage began. According to the FAA, they didn't immediately say
what caused the outerage. Affected travelers said that some of
the airlines gates were crowded that the delays piled up.
Alaska had a similar problem in April of twenty twenty four,

(06:55):
but I guess the operations have resumed. French police investigating
the theft of one hundred two million dollars in jewels
from the loub have found a potential break in the case.
Police told ABC News that DNA evidence was found in
a helmet and a glove discarded by the thieves after
the heist. So they said that one hundred and fifty
DNA samples, fingerprints and other traces have been identified and

(07:17):
that analyzing them as a top priority. She said that
the samples could provide leads within a few days, especially
if the perpetrators, suspected to be career criminals have criminal records.
But yeah, yeah, we got mafia. Yes, we got dudes
pulling up, yeah, climbing in windows, ceiling crowns. And George
Cooney was involved. I swear he absolutely was. The Amazon

(07:38):
Web Services out is that we talked about on I
guess it was Monday did more than just freeze bank
transfers and disrupt Peloton workouts. It jolted some high tech
mattress owners out of sound sleep. So eight Sleep customers
found themselves stuck in uncomfortable positions, bathe in unexpected heat,
or blasted by alarms after their Internet connected beds malfunctioned

(08:01):
during the AWS downtime. According to The Washington Post, some
beds locked upright, only flashed lights, or simply became too
warm for comfort, some up to one hundred and ten degrees.
So eight Sleep smart beds, sold in packages that can
retail for over five thousand dollars, offer vibrating alarms and soundscapes,
customizable positions, and can adjust from temperatures to fifty five

(08:24):
to one hundred and ten degrees. One Reddit user claimed
that their bed set itself to one hundred and ten
degrees and wouldn't turn down. The CEO of the company
apologized for the root awakening and assured customers and engineers
are networking on a backup mode designed to keep the
mattress functional even if cloud services go down again. By Monday,
most of the beds were back online, but your bed
was offline.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
And this is like final destination, Like every story is
crazier than the last.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Somebody else I saw online had like a coffee maker
or like a water purifire, something very basic that connected
to the internet. That that wouldn't work either, Like if
the internet's oft, then you don't know water for you? Sorry,
Like you know, I guess you have to use the
sink unless your sink is connected to the internet, then
you wouldn't be able to do that either.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, or your fridge the one with a little TV
I'm assuming were not running the.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
House with me, so mad refrigerator with the screen on
the front of it. And then now I gotta look
at ads at my own house. I paid for that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I can't wait to have one.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You want? You want to ads?

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I do?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I do I want to feel like I'm immersed in
something when I'm in my kitchen. I like, no, I
don't want no TV, no phone. Just give me my fridge,
me and my fridge. Okay, just immerse into something.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Here's the thing. If you want to give me a fridge,
or you want to give me a very very cheap fridge,
then put ads on it. Fine, give me the fridge
for free. I'll put it in my house. You can
put ads on it. If I pay you for the fridge,
then a lot of money, then I don't. I shouldn't
have to look at ads. I have three things have
ads attached to them, like you know, like look, guys,

(09:55):
there are people who complained about the ads. You want
our show or whatever. I'm sorry, but but our our
advertising part owners are wonderful and they got to pay
for this because we don't make you pay for it.
So there, I'm sorry about that. But if you had
to pay for this and then we were still putting
you know, and by the way, here's thirty minutes. But no,
that would be awful of us. It would be terrible.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Like every streaming service I pay.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
For, well, that's too. Yep, there is a restaurant, and
I sort of like this idea. It's called Hush Harbor.
It's in Washington, DC, a new bar restaurant where phones
are locked up upon entry to create a screen free,
present moment atmosphere. The venue I guess as a Hell's Kitchen,
winning chef and Hush Harbor references historical private gathering places

(10:38):
used by enslaved African Americans, highlighting the intention of creating
a protected space for community and conversation. Inside, guests place
their phones in locked pouches, which only open when they're leaving.
Inside there are analog touches, Polaroid cameras, board games, books,
and cozy Vintage decorp. The aim is to foster real
social connection, unplug time in community. Imagine if you couldn't

(11:00):
look at your phone for like an hour.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Imagine there's a bar club in Detroit that takes phones,
like the ziploc bag thing. And watching my friend try
to get a girl's number was the funniest I was like,
this is how it must have been, because he had
he was trying to remember it, and then he was
trying to get a piece of paper.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It was hysterical.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You have to write it down. He had a napkin.
I remember we used to do that.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, but they still do it to this day. They
take your phone.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I don't hate this idea.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean it's fun.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I love going there, but I know a lot of
people freak out, especially if you have kids or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And this is for you and only you, Kalin, because
I know you were a metal detectorist. Really yeah, no,
I knew Caitlin used to have a metal detector and
she used to like to try and find treasures.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Hey, the metal detective community has been supporting me.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
A metal detectorist from Cheshire, which is I think in Wales,
which in the UK, may have unearthed the largest Roman
coin horde ever found in Welsh history and was so
worried about losing it he slept in his car with
the loot for three nights. The guy's name is David.
He's thirty six years old. He was left in disbelief
after digging up two clay pots containing what he estimates

(12:09):
to be ten to fifteen thousand coins in a remote
part of North Wales in August in a muddy field
after six and a half hours excavating the find with
his friend Ian, which sounds very I don't know Welsh,
I guess. He alerted the landowners, stashed the coins in
a plastic box, drove home. Unwilling to let the trove
out of his sight. He spent three nights camped out

(12:29):
in his car before finally delivering the hordes to experts
at the National Museum. Apparently they wanted if they know
what it is, then he gets a reward with the landowner.
He gets money, but he's like, no, I'm sleeping on
top of this stuff until we figure out what it is.
I give my money. See he's rich from Medelin detectorists.
I didn't even know that was a thing. I didn't
know you there was a term for what you do

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thanks to Live Nation, kay. I want to know eight five, five, five,
nine one oh three five And it was a couple
of weeks ago. I don't remember how it came up exactly,

(13:33):
but somebody who would wait to have intimate relations before
getting married, Okay, there this couple, and I got to
assume that they're doing that because there's a couple who
waited to share their first kiss at their wedding, the
first time they ever kissed.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
We're taking it too far, guys, was at their wedding.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
The married couple had never kissed before their wedding ceremony,
So I have to assume that they didn't do all
the other stuff, just not kissed.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
But that would be something like pretty Woman's style.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
They delayed their first kiss until they exchanged vows and
the officiants said, you may kiss the bride. Their decision
drew mixed reactions. Some people called it sweet and meaningful,
others found it stranger, unnecessary, it's heising. It broader debates
about saving things, be it kissing, dancing, or otherwise for
big events, and what it says about modern romance and
social media friendly gestures eight five, five, five, nine, one

(14:29):
oh three five You can context the same number, would
I mean, I know the answer in the room. But
is there was there any part of you? Okay, I mean,
is there any.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I don't get.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm having a major malfunction right now because there's just
no way, there's no way that I wouldn't kiss a
person who I was going to be in any form of,
you know, romantic relationship with. Because here's the thing. You
you're not going to convince me, but you if you,
if you told me you cannot do something, it wouldn't
be kissing. Because I think the kissing can tell you

(15:06):
a lot about where we're headed. Because I mean, look,
people like who are experienced kisser people, right like to
experienced kisser people may not necessarily kiss each other the
right way, right Like, you don't have to be a
bad kisser. You might be a good kisser to somebody
in a bad kisser to somebody else, right right, So

(15:27):
it's like it do we kind of fit together in
that way or not? And I'm not trying to teach
somebody how to kiss, and they're not trying to teach
me how to kiss, so I feel like you can.
If you were to say to me, like, here's your
perfect person. You can do anything you want, but you
can't sleep with this person. I might be inclined to
do that, but I got to kiss you to make sure.

(15:48):
Like we gotta be kissing. How many times can I
say kiss? And when I got to be kissing, we
have to, Like I might say, we can hold off
on other things if I if I were in this situation,
if I were forced, But there is no way that
I'm marrying somebody who I haven't kissed before.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I do agree that you can tell a ton from kissing,
So maybe that would be all I needed if it was,
like you know, if if I must, but can I
at least like feel it and see what's going on
right right over the pants stuff, just in case.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
You might be able to talk me into the other stuff.
Maybe it is because I mean, I'm kind of I
don't know. I've done. I've had an awful lot of
that in my life. Like it's fine, you know, I've
had my fair share, so I don't necessarily I think
we could figure that part out. But if we can't,
if we're not if we're not kissing each other, like,
if we're not connecting in that way, then there's absolutely
no way.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, I think kissing is so like middle school. So
like I have a really hard time with this topic because.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I feel like, okay, like all right, the the you know,
having intimate relations part is one thing.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, like you said, Kaylin, Like I like, what are
you working with over here?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, but if you don't want to kiss me, I
would assume like you just I don't know, maybe that
you don't want me.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, well, there's isn't a matter of wanting. This is
a conscious decision that they made. I assume. I mean
I don't. I don't say the guys like, dude, I
don't unless you marry me for what.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I don't know, because it's like I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm assuming that it is because I mean again, I
don't know that it would be like.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
We're taking it too far.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, I don't know that. I don't know what it
would be. Like we can do it is a c
we can do anything. We can do all the things
we could do, Paulleen's promise. We can do everything. But
we're not kissing. Absolutely not. You don't want me to
tell me, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't subscribe to like saving things as a gift
for someone.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know how I feel about that? Like we're putting
it up on a pedestal. It's not that big of
a deal, a pedestal. You say that to me every
time I say I was waiting to do that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
How do I say, I don't know? He doesn't it's pedestal.
I don't think you say stool, I don't think it. Well,
that doesn't matter. It's a pedestal. It just whatever you do,
don't put on a pedestal. It always it's fine. Then,
so you and you're not doing this, like if I
told you you can, here's the perfect person. I don't
know whatever you're too, here's the perfect person, right and

(18:02):
and every way promise, but you can't kiss him until
you marry him. Would you go for it? No? Way?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Absolutely not. Just like a little background, my husband actually
had a work accident and he hurt himself down there
and uh, I'm sorry, way, there is no way. He's
good now, fully functioning, we're good. I wouldn't have married him.
I don't think if it didn't work. I know that
sounds really bad, But like girls, got needs.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Now, zan, hold on a second. Now, we stumbled on
something and we're just not We're just not gonna dist
We're not gonna just dosi do past that like what
we're not so in a in a family friendly way,
and so hold on before we talk about this. Do
you see everything your husband? Everything's fine, right, Everything's okay.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yes, he's fine, like barely even a scar.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's good, fantastic. So now that we've established everything is okay,
what happened?

Speaker 5 (18:59):
So at the time, he was a mechanic and he
was using a grinder, which is basically like a spinning wheel,
and it exploded. So the wheel itself exploded and kind
of just in different directions and then uh yeah, they
had to call an ambulance and he passed out when
he saw that. He was leading. He's like, something doesn't

(19:20):
feel right. So that was I think we had been
talking for like two months when that happened. I was like,
oh boy, what to say?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It hit another region?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
It hits another region and then they have.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
To like reattach it or something or no.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
It was just the how okay?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So they fixed it kind.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Of healed on its own, and he has to get
a lot does it look the same. It does?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh? Hell yeah, fantastic. I might if that happened to me,
and God forbid, I might be like, Doc, what are
my options here? Can we? You know, what can we do?
What can we do with what we're working with? Here?
Can we? I mean, if we're rebuilding it, you know,
can we? Like? You know, can I I know, I
specify some dimensions? Is that possible? I'm so glad that
everything is okay, goodness. I'm sorry the topic change, but

(20:15):
there's there's no way that I could. There's no way
you were getting off the phone without some details about that.
Thank you, sir, have a good day. Thank you. This
is a text the dugg Or cult. People only hold
hands until marriage. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's not going
to do it for me. Like, I don't know how
you hold hands is not helping me. How you kiss

(20:36):
would help me a lot the rest of it. If
we kiss, really, if we're great kissing partners, then I
think we can figure the rest out. You know.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
My theory though about holding hands, like, if I see
people cupping hands, I don't think that it's like real, No,
it's not like you got if people are lace fingers,
like then I'm like, okay, tosten.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh so we have to like full on hold hands.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I'm just not buying if somebody's copped, like, I
feel like that shows like something's going there's some sort
of issue.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
But intertwined handholding is like that's that's serious handholding. That's
a lot, that's intense. No, But I don't think that's
a standard handhold. I don't think intertwined handholds. I mean
that's like I'm really holding your hand. That's not like
I'm being cute and I grabbed your pinky or your
couple fingers and we're just walking around like. Intertwined handholding
is like weird, we're locked in. I don't know is

(21:28):
that a standard handhold, yes, intertwined handhold, I don't think
it is.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I hold my grand hand like cupping her like I'm
helping her down the stairs or something like a little
senior citizen.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
But my husband like we're locking in.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I'm never letting go. I feel like an intertwined handhold
would be like me giving you a bear hug every
time I hug you, like tackle you, Like it's a
very aggressive handhold.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Hold hands with your like if you have a girlfriend,
honeyhold hands.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I don't know that. I don't know that every time.
It's like it's like every time you make your every
time you make that with someone you don't French kiss,
every you make out, Yeah, like every time every time
you kiss someone you know in French kiss them every time.
So so every time I don't I don't like immerse
my hand in yours, like I feel like that's sometimes

(22:12):
there's a little cute, little casual handhold, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I'm not cuppying someone I love. I'm sorry, no.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I yeah, okay, I don't know. I don't know, man,
but that seems aggressive to me. It's an aggressive handhold.
It's too early for this.

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