November 4, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
I wonder if you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Guys agree with this now a recent peace in British Vogue.
I think, actually, I think you will agree with this.
Maybe you should listen before you tell me if you
agree or not disagree. I actually I think you wrote this.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Man, I got that, Then do it? Then do it.
You're on spirit and you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hey, you want to take it on spirit and you
can do whatever you want. Yes, it is a wild
world inside that cabin. A recent piece in British Vogue
argues that women are posting less about their partners, and
in some cases feel that simply having a boy friend
is culturally loser ish.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I love you should hear the whole sentence yeah, it
is embarrassing to have a boyfriend. Yeah, many memen, women,
many women, the women, many women reference to fear of
needings to scrub posts if things end, or being judged
for being too coupled.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Some say being single has become the new status symbol.
Dating experts say the issue isn't relationships per se. It's
when someone lets a partnership define their entire identity, which
I don't know how that would. I don't know how
being married or in a you know, committed non marital relationship,
I don't know why that matters. You have to do
all the same things if you get married too and
then divorce, which a lot of people do, which half
of people do so I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I don't know the difference.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What's the difference between having Why would it be embarrassing
to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend and in this
case boyfriend specifically versus getting divorced? Isn't that embarrassing too?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean, no, it's absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Is embarrassing Paulina based on this argument, based on the
argument that you would have to scrub your social media
if you break up with someone, how is it any
different if you're married to them?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And get divorced.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, Fred, I don't like that part that whole, like
scrubbing social media.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like that's the point.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Friendship different.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
No, like I'll lead a friendship like that doesn't matter
to me at all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You play sudoku again, You're always playing.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I love this article, and I'm actually writing something very
similar to this. I am like, h.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We'll see if I pick it up. Yeah, catch me outside,
but we'll see if they pick it up. But I'm
writing one about how I'll never get remarried again, like
if I get divorced and then potentially date, like you
guys know, I'll go on my little dates.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Everyone getting a date with me, but I'm not.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
I'm not like.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Gonna take it a step forward.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We're not committing any.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But my point is in this argument, it says it's
embarrassing to have a boyfriend because women reference fear of
needing to scrub post if things end. You would have
to do that in any at the end of any relationship,
friendship or being judgeable couple. Saying that being singles become
a new set of symbol and that people let a
partnership defind their identity also something that could happen in
(03:07):
a marriage.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yes, so I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How I think the issue here is, Yeah, breaking up
is embarrassing because because these aren't things that are exclusive
to boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I hear you, breaking up can be embarrassing. I think
it's article that I've read this article over and over
and over. I think it's an amazing article. I think
what she's saying is like, having a boyfriend is a
liability for a lot of women. And that's a big
talk or big conversation on TikTok too, like it truly
is having a partner is liability.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well on you, Fred Hayter Lauren saying more man passing.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Eight three five if you have because this isn't talking
about girlfriends. This is from the female perspective. Yes, and
and and the quote is or her statement is yes,
and it doesn't really matter why even though I think
it applies to any relationship I can. I think that
I would like to know do you have a boyfriend
and are you embarrassed of said boyfriend in a way
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that you wouldn't be embarrassed of a husband.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
My husband can embarrass you too, Like I got to
hear you on that and the article is more about
independent self identity outside of a partner, changing norms about
how relationships are displayed.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, but I get I guess if I'm independent and
I have self identity outside of a partner, then I'm
not embarrassed by my boyfriend because I stand on my
own too. Yes, So this, in my opinion, this whole thing,
it contradicts itself all over the place.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think, yes and no.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I think a lot of times when women get into relationships,
you see the baddies, you know, getting taken off the streets,
and you know she's in a relationship. I'm serious, and like,
I know her content's a little more watered down, or
she might not be outside as much because she's in
a relationship. And that's natural, it happens, right. I feel
like a lot of people change when they get into
a relationship or they get married. Now, making your whole
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identity that's annoying. And she said it in the article too.
She goes, if I used to see you, I don't know,
on the beaches doing this and that, and all of
a sudden, it's just like you and your husband in
the kitchen, that's all your content.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Like I'm on following you, and why are we judging
our actual lives on what your content is.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I think she's just pointing that out as far as
like I think that's another problem.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know, well, that's what she's saying.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
And it's like, I see what she's saying in terms
of like we make our relationship our identity, or we
can some women do.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'm not saying all women, but some women can.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And I think that's like what she's pointing out too,
is like you're really absorbed in this relationship and like
it's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, but how does that apply to just a boyfriend
versus a husband too? I mean, is it like I'm
doing this for someone who?
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Who?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I also don't know why the man has to
take all of the ownership every time in that It's like,
so what I was going to say is so you're
saying it's embarrassing that I'm I'm committed to this dual identity,
but you haven't quote unquote pulled the trigger. But again,
she's talking about self identity and self independence. So then
it wouldn't matter whether I pull the trigger or not,
because you're your own person, your own figure, so it
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doesn't actually matter whether it shouldn't matter based on her argument,
whether we're ma or not, I shouldn't be embarrassed to
have a boyfriend or a husband because it doesn't matter
because I have ownership in this decision. I think it
would be embarrassing if you're constantly telling everybody that your
whole life is dependent upon someone else's decision making based
on your value. You know what I mean, Like Kiki
(06:17):
joked about it, but Kiki is her own woman, her
own brand, her own identity, and whether Big Tim owned
that or not, I mean you, we can be real
for one second.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You got a gimmick, gimmick, you got a gimmick, this.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Whole arm single until this man claims me or whatever. No,
you never needed him to claim you. You don't for
one second need a man to claim you, Kiki, And
you know that.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
I don't need him to claim me. But in order
for me to go public with him, I need to
have some stake in the game, because it is embarrassing
when you are dating people for women, it can be
embarrassing because you I put you on display as my man,
as my boyfriend, right, and so that eliminates all my
other potential partners on this algorithm, you know, like, so
that the level of risk. Yeah, that's embark in itself.
(07:02):
I put all my potential men that's sitting on.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
A bench, right, Why are we framing it? And I
agree society does this, But why aren't we having a
bigger conversation, which is why are we allowing society to
frame this? Like if a dude doesn't pull the trigger,
he doesn't claim you on a permanent basis, that that
somehow has some that's some assessment of your value.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Maybe maybe you're the one.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Like in Calen situation, I think that dude would would
have married her before they even started dating. He would
have married her. Yeah, okay, so, but but I think
maybe she in this case, I'm surmising, based on things
that have been said over the last couple of years,
that maybe she's the one saying let's pump the brakes.
So there should be zero assessment of Klen's value based
on the fact that she's got a boyfriend and not
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a husband.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't think any friend. I don't think it has
anything to do with my value.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Now I don't say that, I just think it's embarrassing
because I didn't put all my other potential partners on
notice about you. I'm letting them know that you're the
star player on my team. Then I come to find
out you can't dribble the ball. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know, it's not about my value.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
My value say what it is because I'm me, But
so it's it's just about this may. I didn't put
you out there let everybody think you the man.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now you're just sitting.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Next to me and got some of this glow.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now now you walk on and so you got it.
You got it about three quarters right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And so then if he if he screws this up,
then he loses the aura, then he's then he is
out of the shadow by.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And I find that's bad.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Once I found out how embarrassing you are, now you're
forever attached to my legacy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, Jesus Taylor, I love this article. This article just
goes left and right and it's all over the place,
and it says two different things. Hi, what did you
want to say? I'm having a boyfriend's embarrassing.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Why it's just embarrassing?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Why my boyfriend is my boyfriend?
Speaker 9 (08:52):
That right, just embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I don't know, It's just I come off with annoying.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I feel like so so saying your husband, that's your
husband that How does that change the context?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
If it's the same guy, it sounds different.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
More adults, and let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I'm gonna make a counter argument, Taylor. I might argue
that having a husband can be embarrassing, can be because
at least, at least boyfriend and girlfriend, there is no
added pressure, no added level of Look, let's face it,
there are a lot of people listening right now in
relationships who are married and they're not getting divorced because
(09:29):
it's too much of a pain in the butt. But
in a boyfriend girlfriend relationship, you get a little bit
more flexibility. It could still be a big pain in
the butt, but each of you are choosing to be there,
and it's not real tough to get out of it.
So I might argue that you're choosing each other in
that situation, as opposed to a marriage, where you may
stop choosing each other locket.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But you've got.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Lives intertwined legally and otherwise, and as time goes by
in a marriage ten twenty thirty years yeah. Look, I mean,
you know, my parents have been together for forty years.
They love it other, and they're going to stick it out.
But I can tell you it would be such a
gigantic pain in the buttt at seventy and eighty years
old to move on. I don't know that they would
even if they should.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
That's a good point, but.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'm sometimes using that relationship every day.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I hate using my parents as an example because
they do love each other, and they wouldn't they I
don't think either one of them. Well, my dad wouldn't
live without my mom, like he physically wouldn't survive. I
love him, but he's gotten to a place in his
life where he physically would not survive without my mother.
He doesn't know how to wash his chonies. He has
no idea, no clue. He doesn't even where the chones,
doesn't know where to buy newones. You don't know nothing
about the chonies. Okay, so this man walking around with
(10:37):
no chonies be awful.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
For society with your mom.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No, and and frankly, I think my mom needs him too.
Now she's going to listen to this at about my
phone is gonna ring, and she's gonna say I need him,
but nothing. I've hid all the money everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
He's broke. Hey, you Taylor, have.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
A good day.
Speaker 10 (10:57):
See what's a good example.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Folk should have called me instead. I mean, I love
this author. She's graad and really like, I'm really invested
in her in this whole thing. I wish they would
have called me because I've been saying what exactly what
you're saying. It's like, I think you can take us
up further and say husbands can be embarrassing too. Do
you know how many moms have to do this alone
even though they're legally married and the man's actually physically
in the house, but like, won't wash a dish.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I want women to have the power here. But that's
what she's saying on one hand to Brian that she
on the other.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Hand, so I don't know, Hey, Ashley, good morning, good morning.
So you're saying it thirty five to say you have
a boyfriend is embarrassing? I see, I think that's just
social Well what are you saying? So like, that's what
my blurb said, Okay, that's what that's what your pre
interviewer said. All right, So if we got the pre
interview wrong, then I need you to correct them.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
No, that's the hunter.
Speaker 10 (11:47):
Like at thirty five, when you're just introducing someone being like,
this is my boyfriend, it just sounds so immature because
there's so many people at that stage of life that
is like married.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Mind you, I've already been married and divorce by go
heredy oh you're good, right, you did.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It right now.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
Fortunately enough, we are engaged and we're getting married in December.
But when I was introducing him at thirty five and
thirty eight as my boyfriend, it just feels like a
step back in life because you.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Know, I'm approaching that forty mark and saying I have
a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, And I hear you.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, I hear what you're saying, Ashley, And that's fair
and that's honest, and you're being transparent. But I'm going
to write a piece for British Vogue where I say, yeah,
that is a social construct. Yes, what you're saying, what
you're saying is what other people are putting onto you. Like,
that's what the world's putting onto you. And I can
say this from the perspective of a forty four year
old man who's never been married and may never get
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married because people look at me like I'm a weirdo,
people on the dating apps, people in real life, people
my friends who introduce me to people. It's like, what
do you mean he's forty four and never been married.
There must be something wrong with him as opposed to
what if I choose this life. That's true, So you
shouldn't be embarrassed. I'm telling you that's my whole point here.
You should not be embarrassed about that. Whatsoever. You made
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that choice head high. And if a guy doesn't want
to propose to you then and and you're self aware
and it's not you know, and you're and you're good
with yourself, then I guess that's his loss.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
That's true.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
But doesn't don't you think the title boyfriend instead of
like you know, it sounds immature.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Fourteen year olds have boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, so we can change the word man friend, college
bulloom guy dude.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, fair enough. I hear that. But but are
you thinking it?
Speaker 9 (13:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
No, No, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What you said is what the part that makes you embarrassed,
in my opinion, shouldn't make you embarrassed. It's it's your
embarrassed because other people. You think other people think that.
So it's a little bit of projection that I'd like
to correct.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Fortunately enough, we are getting married in December.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He's my fiance now, so we don't got to say boyfriend,
no mo.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Congratulations, Yes, all right, thank you too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
See it would big Tim could have said he could
have walked. You would have been devastated, because that's a
that's a crappy thing to do. You would have been sad.
But then guess what next? O, Marion?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (14:08):
And I'm saying, that's why you don't put out a
boyfriend because my bench is watching and.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're so late and we got to go.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But the other part of this is that we're judging
things based on social media content, which is outrageous.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I do not care no part of your actual life.
You got to live your life.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And if that and if you want to live a
separate life, that's for everybody else. I guess fine.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But like the fact that we're now, we're now meshing
and meshing the two where my social media life and
how I'm judge on social media it plays into my
actual identity. That's the worst place on earth. Why would
you want that to be the barometer of how you're
doing in life. The Internet's the worst place on earth.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
The longer the caption, the more the problems. I stand
by that girl.
Speaker 11 (14:49):
Oh yeah, like if it's wordy and oh two souls come,
Oh the pargraph?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
What are all going?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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about your boyfriend. You guys have been together for a
year and a half and decided to move in together
and then.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
What so we looked at places. We did find one
that we really liked, and so we put in that
application for it standard process and then for whatever reason,
like we got denied for it. I said that it
ran our credit.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And do you have good crowd or is it? Was
it a little bit of a roll the dice there.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
My credit is pretty good. I mean, you know it
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, So you expected to get this though, like you
didn't do this and you're like, let's see if they
find that credit card bill or whatever. But then you
expected that it wouldn't be an issue, right.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal.
Like obviously I wouldn't put the application in because we
had to pay for that, right, So I just wasn't expecting.
So they denied us. I called, I'm like, hey, what's
going on?
Speaker 12 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 9 (16:50):
They said they couldn't proceed because of my boyfriend's credit,
not because of mine.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh, and that was surprising.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 13 (16:59):
It was.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
It was even more surprising because not only was the
credit like that, it was like really bad, Like I
didn't even know you could get a credit score that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I love.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
No shade, no shade, I love him, I love my boyfriend.
But it's also just like day, like when were you
going to tell me that? It was a lot of
like details to it too, like they owe he specifically
owes that rental company thousands of dollars, like thousands of
rent like over a past lease, and he didn't tell
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me that. And it's like if you knew, if you
knew that before we applied, why wouldn't you say that?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So and then you confronted him, right because you're like, hey,
what's going on with this? Like why didn't we talk
about it? And then what does he what's his response? Oh, yeah,
my bad, Like I thought, maybe I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Forgot the old roommate.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Basically, no, not even my bad, right, I would even
be okay with my bad. It wasn't even that it
was oh my old roommate, they didn't pay it affected
my credit, blah blah blah. We were both on the lease,
and so I'm like Okay, why wouldn't you just tell
me that, like ahead of time, you know it's the
same company. So I don't know. I just really am
confused about it because I also feel like it almost
(18:11):
feels like lyon, like it's almost like a liable mission,
like you knew that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, he knew he had bad credit.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He knew they were running the credit, because that's pretty
standard when you go rent something and he didn't give
you any heads up and then and then it's someone
else's fault entirely, which then I would start to say, well,
if my credit was completely screwed, then I'm tracking that
person down. I'm trying to get the money. I'm trying
to get it straightened out, you know, because I don't
want to live like that. I don't want to run
into this every time, especially if it's actually someone else's fault.
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But then he seems a little complacent about it, even
because it's oh yeah that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's a shame, isn't it. I like that it's someone
else's fault.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Yeah, But he's you know, I will give him this,
like he is working, and he's working towards a lot
of different things. And so that's also part of why
I feel like conflict. They're right because I see him
putting in the efforts to like really rebuild himself, rebuild
his life, and so I just I don't even know
if that's But I also, at the same time don't
know if that's something I want to be involved in. Right,
It's like, I can help you a little bit, but
(19:09):
I don't I don't want to be responsible for you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, can I do?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
That makes sense?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I've never I've never rented an apartment with someone else,
But I mean, can you You're gonna run into this
every time? So then are you able to are you
able to rent the apartment just you and they don't
run his credit? Or I mean, is this something that
you're not gonna be able to get an apartment until
or a good apartment or whatever, and until he clears
this up?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It is my question.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
I don't even know, Like we haven't even gotten there.
It's just I need to make the decision first. I
think as far as like, am I gonna bring him
along with me? Or am I just gonna not? You know,
so I feel like, before you know it is a liability.
It's like, do I even want to put his name
on the leash if that's the case, you know, so
it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Which is something you're gonna have to but then you're
stuck with the whole thing if something happens eight five, five, five, nine,
one one of three five. I'd love to tell what people,
if they've been through this, what they have to say
about it. You know, it's I'm glad that he's not
just sitting on the couch playing video games with bad credit,
and yeah, I don't know, and it doesn't seem to
be any motivation for him to sort of have success
in his life. That being said, I do think it's
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us that he didn't ever bring this up, like like,
why didn't he going into this process, go hey, look,
heads up, you know, I do have this situation. It's
going to come up when they run the credit. We
may not be able to get the places that we want.
And here are the steps that I'm taking to resolve
it so that it's not something that, you know, hangs
over our heads for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He didn't do that, which makes me.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Then wonder why not, you know, because again, this isn't
a surprise to him.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
No, and if he did, if he didn't know that's
a problem too, because how didn't you know that? Like,
why aren't you diligent enough? You know what I mean?
So either way, this is a problem, and I'm trying
to figure out if I want to keep being involved
in it well.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Because if it's not resolved, I don't know how long
that stuff lasts or how quickly you can turn it around.
But you know this, you might have to buy all
the cars, you might have to buy the house, you
might have to do all the renting of everything. You
might have to have the credit cards in your name.
And that's now we're talking about something. If I'm right
about that, because again I've never I've never call mingled funds.
Now we're talking about where everything is on you and
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he can just walk because it's all in your name.
And I wouldn't like that feeling either of somebody out there,
you know, sort of spending and living and existing under
my credit because you hear about this happening. And I
don't know this guy, but you sometimes hear about people
screwing up other people's credit this way and now and
then you got to fix it again.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Yeah, And I don't I don't know. I don't think
I don't know if it's worth it, honestly, No.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
Matter what you do, make sure, sorry, make sure you
move into a place that you can afford if you
do end up moving in with him, that you can
afford on your own in case something.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Happens, just so you're protected.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
But if his credit is bad, they will not allow
him on the lease, so it would be just you
getting approved. If they'll still let you have to are
running his but you need to make sure that you
can handle it on your own, just to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I don't want you wind it up on keeky scored,
because that's a whole different thing. If you wind up
bumbo stair going, we got a real problem.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Let me take some phone calls and see maybe people
have lived I'm sure people have lived this before and
figured it out. But yeah, my husband Kelsey, have a
good day, and thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And have the radio one.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
See up should we call it? Thank you turned that
radio off, Bobby right now.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like the thing is I was different, like I was
very transparent of like this is like the debt that
I have occurred, a cured whatever the word is. I've
done this. This is my debt.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It occurred, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I told him the marriage and I cured it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
I told marriage, I told him after marriage and he's like, oh,
I didn't know it was this.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Uh you incurred it, by the way, but go ahead, sorry,
that was that was stuck on my way.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Well like, uh yeah, so you know, living off my
husband is it's very valid at this moment of life.
But I do contribute. Obviously, I work, and I and
I pay bills and I actually have my own home
that I purchased on my own.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Hell yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
But I do feel like a I know every dollar,
I owe where it needs to go and where it's
gonna come from. I know that part and do something
about it. And I was very transparent. And this man,
this embarrassing man, British Fogue, if you know, you know,
is not being honest and he's gonna take her down
if he doesn't change his act and clean it up.
Speaker 14 (23:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So Kaylee says, go, because you've lived through this.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Hi, Kaylee, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So how did that? Good morning? How did that go? Like?
Like why are you so?
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Everything was fine for like five years but then there
was like a back injury and then he lost that
job and then he couldn't go back, and the mental
wear of it all.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
But I'm so I finally.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Left such or seven and a half years, and I
am grateful enough to be able to have moved back
in with our dog to.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
My mom's house.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
But I'm still carrying the debt because nothing was under
his name. It was all my credit card. So I'm
I left with like thirty five thousand dollars in credit card.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I am so sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So you're in love with this guy and you're feeling
a certain kind of way, and you're like, we're gonna
be together, We're gonna work this out. So you just
put everything in your name and then this is where
this is where you wind up.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Ye okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So your advice to her is don't if he can't
be an equal partner in all of this, then then
don't do it.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Correct, don't.
Speaker 12 (24:13):
And she's early in too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right, KAYLEI, thank you, have a good day,
you too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And someone is saying it could take as much as
as many as seven years to straighten the whole thing out.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That someone's full calm. How you doing, Hey?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Great?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
How are you Hey, good morning, welcome, thanks for listening,
stare Go.
Speaker 14 (24:34):
Gocause he is not ready and she apparently is getting
herself together and it's okay. I mean, he's just not
where she is, so just keep moving and if it's
meant to be, you can circle back to each other.
But you're going to be paying for everything. The house
will be in your name, the cars will be in
your name. Creditors will be looking for you and not him.
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He has no built credit, He'll have nothing built up,
So by the time you all are older, everything will
be on you.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
So what's the point.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
You can do everything by yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough because she could, I mean,
like the last color, she could take it on, and
because she says that he is being diligent. I mean,
this would be a very different story to me if
he weren't doing anything about it. And I'm very financially conservative,
so I don't think this would work for me. But
I mean again, if you're really in love with someone,
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then I can see why it would be hard to
say I'm walking away from this thing that I think
is forever over someone who's trying to get their life
together for past mistakes. Especially if he's telling the truth
and it was somebody else's fault and this isn't a
reflection on his spending or financial future or financial goals
or ambitions or outlook. But I yeah, I mean, do
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you actually end a romantic relationship over and not be
forward with this? And you're saying yes, okay, yeah, there
you go, thank you, Carl, Okay, have a good day.
Yeah it sounds sounds harsh.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, I mean, I don't you're in love with someone
and you're not going to pursue And again I'm not
the romantic in the room. But like, I don't know,
I guess, at what point do you say I love
you so much? I'm to Caylan's point, We're going to
live within my means. You're gonna support me because you
have the money to do it and you're working towards it.
(26:23):
We're not going to extend beyond that. And I'm going
to give you some time to fix this, and if
you don't, then I'm okay, because I'm not going to
be put in a bad financial situation because we're spending
for both of us and it's all going to fall
on me.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What about that alternative?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
I mean honestly, yes, I mean, you don't take any risks,
you stack your money while you pay or link, you
be interesting, you build your credit why you pay.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, that's another thing he is you might actually want
to be a hell. The penalty for him having bad
credit might be that it's all in your name. You're
living within your means, and he's paying for you to
live within your means, And if he decides to be
a jerky and bail, then you're not in a bad
spot now. I think if you're living for two people
and you're living to the life that you want to
live someday, not the life that you necessarily have on paper,
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that's I feel like, maybe you get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Jackie.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You say go too though, Yes, okay, he definitely should.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Go because I relived something very very similar where it was, oh,
my boyfriend doesn't have good credit. So I was trying
to be nice. He's like, all right, i'll help you
book the credit. Things like that. Eventually things weren't getting paid.
Long story short, we've been you know, we were together
for six years and I had to group bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Okay, Oh god, now I have to ask you, Jackie,
in all honesty, when you when I'm sorry that happened
to you, but when you look back, was he showing
you signs that he wanted to make it better? Or
was he showing you signs that he was complacent about it?
Because look, I mean, one thing I've learned in in
you know, dating and in meeting lots of different peace people,
is people grow up in different financial situations that grew
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up in different situations, and they're sort of and I
think some of that's instilled in you, like this, Hey,
spend now, worry about it later, put it on credit,
worry about.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It later, or or hey, I don't know, I don't
really care about it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So I'm not saying that, I'm not saying the signs
were there, But would you have felt differently if you're
someone who was saying it was confronting this and saying, hey,
I know this is a problem and here the steps
I'm taking to resolve it.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Would that had been different for you?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I don't think so, because I think the underlying thing
here that I learned it looking back an as I layered,
you know, the onion back over the years is that
there was a line. So when she mentioned that he
lied about it, he couldn't say accountability and say yeah,
I messed up and that this is how I was
trying to fix it. He claimed it on the roommate.
(28:52):
That's a big red flag. Okay, So there was a
lot of lyne going on also with my with my partner,
you know, was a the accountability for things was like,
oh he got an accident, Oh that wasn't my fault,
the bus hit me, things like that. So to me,
it tells me there's no growth there and he's not
going to grow, So she should just live on her own.
(29:13):
He could be around her life if he wants to,
but he needs to deal with this himself, because when
he learns how to deal with it, he's going to
be a man and then he'll be able to beat.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
It for her.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, thank you, Jackie, have a good day. Sorry. Yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I guess they could live separately, still be together. She
could give it a year or two and see, you
know what direction it's headed, even if it's going to
take seven years to straighten it out. I mean, I
think she could definitely say I need full transparency about
your financial situation. I need to see how you're working
away at this. You're going to have to show me
I'm sorry, but like I'm not. And if he really
loves her, then he's going to understand that that's not
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a burden that he should put onto her or someone else.
And it's going to delay their plans, but it won't
put her in a bad situation if it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Doesn't work out. WHOA how you doing?
Speaker 13 (29:57):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
What's going on? Hey man, you're the loan stay here?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Come on now?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh I'm coming on now? Why am I coming on? Now? Though?
I need you to tell me why I should say?
Why should I stay in this thing?
Speaker 13 (30:10):
I think? I think in that situation when I first
got with my wife, like my credit was bad, I
didn't even have a license. We couldn't even get a
car unless I put it in her name. And now
ten years lady later, the whole thing is three sixty.
Now everything is in my name. I take care of everything.
I got the good credit, school, and now I'm trying
to help her get back up.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Interesting, but you were clear with her about that, like Nigel,
you told her all of this up front, Like Yo,
I got I'm in a bad situation.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Shot together vaguely, and over the years, I built my
credit school up and I turned everything around, and now
it's nothing that we.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Can't get you know, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
See, But you seem to have shown the signs I'm
talking about, like you took accountability, you were transparent, you
were clear about it. You you were able to from
what you're saying, to demonstrate to her how you were
going to turn it around. You did, and now you're
doing what you should be doing. And so but it
doesn't seem like that's what one hundred percent true in her.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Case, Like keep in mind, free I went from making
twenty seven thousand and eighty thousand a year. So that's
a big difference too.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
My man. So when you're rolling like that, I mean, okay, yeah,
look here, yeah, I mean it's been money.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Money changes everything.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
I don't know how, I don't know why, but it is.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I mean, no money, more problems, but it certainly makes
the problems. I don't know. At least you're not hungry
with the problems.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I actually have less problems because I actually matured. I
don't even flirt anymore or anything like that. Any stuff that's.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Look at have to worry about. I just got money down,
so he ain't even stepping out. It's wrong.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
I do have a dime though, you know it is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It usually goes the other way.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Usually people clean up their life and all of a
sudden they thing, I'm not I can do anything.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So look at this man.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
This man cleans up his life and he stopped with
the shenanigans to Nigel. This right here, Nigel's a success story.
Right here is Nigel good for you? He's got credit
straight and he's not shating anymore. Nigel, good for you.
I know, honestly, all jokes aside, good for you. Stop
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you stop stepping out? All right, man, have a good day.
He's a good man.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Nigel.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Nigel is the other way around, right Like people attach themselves.
I hate to say this, but people, and I'm not
talking about Nigel. We'll take him out of this, but
people in bad situations attach themselves to people who can
fix it for them. And then once their problems are fixed,
and they they then forget about that love the building,
They forgot about who helped him do it, and they're like, boy,
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I am in a good spot now you.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Made me punch my Mic, that's true. You're making good
points today. You are on fire today, right.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's the funny thing is I'm on fire most days.
It's just you're just now realizing it to today's port Taylor.
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Mean i have a pretty good batting average, but today
I'm a hundred.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Take my compliments.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm a hundred.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Like I'm going to go home and we listen to
this like I am too. Actually, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
To go home and I'm going to go home and
play my own brilliance and just be proud of myself
for once.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm going to go home and yeah, I'm not going
to step out anymore either. I've been stepping out of
myself on my non relationship forever
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
I wonder if you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Guys agree with this now a recent peace in British Vogue.
I think, actually, I think you will agree with this.
Maybe you should listen before you tell me if you
agree or not disagree. I actually I think you wrote this.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Man, I got that, Then do it? Then do it.
You're on spirit and you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hey, you want to take it on spirit and you
can do whatever you want. Yes, it is a wild
world inside that cabin. A recent piece in British Vogue
argues that women are posting less about their partners, and
in some cases feel that simply having a boy friend
is culturally loser ish.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I love you should hear the whole sentence yeah, it
is embarrassing to have a boyfriend. Yeah, many memen, women,
many women, the women, many women reference to fear of
needings to scrub posts if things end, or being judged
for being too coupled.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Some say being single has become the new status symbol.
Dating experts say the issue isn't relationships per se. It's
when someone lets a partnership define their entire identity, which
I don't know how that would. I don't know how
being married or in a you know, committed non marital relationship,
I don't know why that matters. You have to do
all the same things if you get married too and
then divorce, which a lot of people do, which half
of people do so I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I don't know the difference.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What's the difference between having Why would it be embarrassing
to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend and in this
case boyfriend specifically versus getting divorced? Isn't that embarrassing too?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean, no, it's absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Is embarrassing Paulina based on this argument, based on the
argument that you would have to scrub your social media
if you break up with someone, how is it any
different if you're married to them?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And get divorced.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, Fred, I don't like that part that whole, like
scrubbing social media.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like that's the point.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Friendship different.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
No, like I'll lead a friendship like that doesn't matter
to me at all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You play sudoku again, You're always playing.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I love this article, and I'm actually writing something very
similar to this. I am like, h.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We'll see if I pick it up. Yeah, catch me outside,
but we'll see if they pick it up. But I'm
writing one about how I'll never get remarried again, like
if I get divorced and then potentially date, like you
guys know, I'll go on my little dates.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Everyone getting a date with me, but I'm not.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
I'm not like.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Gonna take it a step forward.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We're not committing any.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But my point is in this argument, it says it's
embarrassing to have a boyfriend because women reference fear of
needing to scrub post if things end. You would have
to do that in any at the end of any relationship,
friendship or being judgeable couple. Saying that being singles become
a new set of symbol and that people let a
partnership defind their identity also something that could happen in
(03:07):
a marriage.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yes, so I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How I think the issue here is, Yeah, breaking up
is embarrassing because because these aren't things that are exclusive
to boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I hear you, breaking up can be embarrassing. I think
it's article that I've read this article over and over
and over. I think it's an amazing article. I think
what she's saying is like, having a boyfriend is a
liability for a lot of women. And that's a big
talk or big conversation on TikTok too, like it truly
is having a partner is liability.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well on you, Fred Hayter Lauren saying more man passing.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Eight three five if you have because this isn't talking
about girlfriends. This is from the female perspective. Yes, and
and and the quote is or her statement is yes,
and it doesn't really matter why even though I think
it applies to any relationship I can. I think that
I would like to know do you have a boyfriend
and are you embarrassed of said boyfriend in a way
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that you wouldn't be embarrassed of a husband.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
My husband can embarrass you too, Like I got to
hear you on that and the article is more about
independent self identity outside of a partner, changing norms about
how relationships are displayed.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, but I get I guess if I'm independent and
I have self identity outside of a partner, then I'm
not embarrassed by my boyfriend because I stand on my
own too. Yes, So this, in my opinion, this whole thing,
it contradicts itself all over the place.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think, yes and no.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I think a lot of times when women get into relationships,
you see the baddies, you know, getting taken off the streets,
and you know she's in a relationship. I'm serious, and like,
I know her content's a little more watered down, or
she might not be outside as much because she's in
a relationship. And that's natural, it happens, right. I feel
like a lot of people change when they get into
a relationship or they get married. Now, making your whole
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identity that's annoying. And she said it in the article too.
She goes, if I used to see you, I don't know,
on the beaches doing this and that, and all of
a sudden, it's just like you and your husband in
the kitchen, that's all your content.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Like I'm on following you, and why are we judging
our actual lives on what your content is.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I think she's just pointing that out as far as
like I think that's another problem.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know, well, that's what she's saying.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
And it's like, I see what she's saying in terms
of like we make our relationship our identity, or we
can some women do.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'm not saying all women, but some women can.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And I think that's like what she's pointing out too,
is like you're really absorbed in this relationship and like
it's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, but how does that apply to just a boyfriend
versus a husband too? I mean, is it like I'm
doing this for someone who?
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Who?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I also don't know why the man has to
take all of the ownership every time in that It's like,
so what I was going to say is so you're
saying it's embarrassing that I'm I'm committed to this dual identity,
but you haven't quote unquote pulled the trigger. But again,
she's talking about self identity and self independence. So then
it wouldn't matter whether I pull the trigger or not,
because you're your own person, your own figure, so it
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doesn't actually matter whether it shouldn't matter based on her argument,
whether we're ma or not, I shouldn't be embarrassed to
have a boyfriend or a husband because it doesn't matter
because I have ownership in this decision. I think it
would be embarrassing if you're constantly telling everybody that your
whole life is dependent upon someone else's decision making based
on your value. You know what I mean, Like Kiki
(06:17):
joked about it, but Kiki is her own woman, her
own brand, her own identity, and whether Big Tim owned
that or not, I mean you, we can be real
for one second.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You got a gimmick, gimmick, you got a gimmick, this.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Whole arm single until this man claims me or whatever. No,
you never needed him to claim you. You don't for
one second need a man to claim you, Kiki, And
you know that.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
I don't need him to claim me. But in order
for me to go public with him, I need to
have some stake in the game, because it is embarrassing
when you are dating people for women, it can be
embarrassing because you I put you on display as my man,
as my boyfriend, right, and so that eliminates all my
other potential partners on this algorithm, you know, like, so
that the level of risk. Yeah, that's embark in itself.
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I put all my potential men that's sitting on.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
A bench, right, Why are we framing it? And I
agree society does this, But why aren't we having a
bigger conversation, which is why are we allowing society to
frame this? Like if a dude doesn't pull the trigger,
he doesn't claim you on a permanent basis, that that
somehow has some that's some assessment of your value.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Maybe maybe you're the one.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Like in Calen situation, I think that dude would would
have married her before they even started dating. He would
have married her. Yeah, okay, so, but but I think
maybe she in this case, I'm surmising, based on things
that have been said over the last couple of years,
that maybe she's the one saying let's pump the brakes.
So there should be zero assessment of Klen's value based
on the fact that she's got a boyfriend and not
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a husband.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't think any friend. I don't think it has
anything to do with my value.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Now I don't say that, I just think it's embarrassing
because I didn't put all my other potential partners on
notice about you. I'm letting them know that you're the
star player on my team. Then I come to find
out you can't dribble the ball. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know, it's not about my value.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
My value say what it is because I'm me, But
so it's it's just about this may. I didn't put
you out there let everybody think you the man.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now you're just sitting.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Next to me and got some of this glow.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now now you walk on and so you got it.
You got it about three quarters right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And so then if he if he screws this up,
then he loses the aura, then he's then he is
out of the shadow by.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And I find that's bad.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Once I found out how embarrassing you are, now you're
forever attached to my legacy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, Jesus Taylor, I love this article. This article just
goes left and right and it's all over the place,
and it says two different things. Hi, what did you
want to say? I'm having a boyfriend's embarrassing.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Why it's just embarrassing?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Why my boyfriend is my boyfriend?
Speaker 9 (08:52):
That right, just embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I don't know, It's just I come off with annoying.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I feel like so so saying your husband, that's your
husband that How does that change the context?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
If it's the same guy, it sounds different.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
More adults, and let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I'm gonna make a counter argument, Taylor. I might argue
that having a husband can be embarrassing, can be because
at least, at least boyfriend and girlfriend, there is no
added pressure, no added level of Look, let's face it,
there are a lot of people listening right now in
relationships who are married and they're not getting divorced because
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it's too much of a pain in the butt. But
in a boyfriend girlfriend relationship, you get a little bit
more flexibility. It could still be a big pain in
the butt, but each of you are choosing to be there,
and it's not real tough to get out of it.
So I might argue that you're choosing each other in
that situation, as opposed to a marriage, where you may
stop choosing each other locket.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But you've got.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Lives intertwined legally and otherwise, and as time goes by
in a marriage ten twenty thirty years yeah. Look, I mean,
you know, my parents have been together for forty years.
They love it other, and they're going to stick it out.
But I can tell you it would be such a
gigantic pain in the buttt at seventy and eighty years
old to move on. I don't know that they would
even if they should.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
That's a good point, but.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'm sometimes using that relationship every day.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I hate using my parents as an example because
they do love each other, and they wouldn't they I
don't think either one of them. Well, my dad wouldn't
live without my mom, like he physically wouldn't survive. I
love him, but he's gotten to a place in his
life where he physically would not survive without my mother.
He doesn't know how to wash his chonies. He has
no idea, no clue. He doesn't even where the chones,
doesn't know where to buy newones. You don't know nothing
about the chonies. Okay, so this man walking around with
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no chonies be awful.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
For society with your mom.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No, and and frankly, I think my mom needs him too.
Now she's going to listen to this at about my
phone is gonna ring, and she's gonna say I need him,
but nothing. I've hid all the money everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
He's broke. Hey, you Taylor, have.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
A good day.
Speaker 10 (10:57):
See what's a good example.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Folk should have called me instead. I mean, I love
this author. She's graad and really like, I'm really invested
in her in this whole thing. I wish they would
have called me because I've been saying what exactly what
you're saying. It's like, I think you can take us
up further and say husbands can be embarrassing too. Do
you know how many moms have to do this alone
even though they're legally married and the man's actually physically
in the house, but like, won't wash a dish.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I want women to have the power here. But that's
what she's saying on one hand to Brian that she
on the other.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Hand, so I don't know, Hey, Ashley, good morning, good morning.
So you're saying it thirty five to say you have
a boyfriend is embarrassing? I see, I think that's just
social Well what are you saying? So like, that's what
my blurb said, Okay, that's what that's what your pre
interviewer said. All right, So if we got the pre
interview wrong, then I need you to correct them.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
No, that's the hunter.
Speaker 10 (11:47):
Like at thirty five, when you're just introducing someone being like,
this is my boyfriend, it just sounds so immature because
there's so many people at that stage of life that
is like married.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Mind you, I've already been married and divorce by go
heredy oh you're good, right, you did.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It right now.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
Fortunately enough, we are engaged and we're getting married in December.
But when I was introducing him at thirty five and
thirty eight as my boyfriend, it just feels like a
step back in life because you.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Know, I'm approaching that forty mark and saying I have
a boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, And I hear you.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, I hear what you're saying, Ashley, And that's fair
and that's honest, and you're being transparent. But I'm going
to write a piece for British Vogue where I say, yeah,
that is a social construct. Yes, what you're saying, what
you're saying is what other people are putting onto you. Like,
that's what the world's putting onto you. And I can
say this from the perspective of a forty four year
old man who's never been married and may never get
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married because people look at me like I'm a weirdo,
people on the dating apps, people in real life, people
my friends who introduce me to people. It's like, what
do you mean he's forty four and never been married.
There must be something wrong with him as opposed to
what if I choose this life. That's true, So you
shouldn't be embarrassed. I'm telling you that's my whole point here.
You should not be embarrassed about that. Whatsoever. You made
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that choice head high. And if a guy doesn't want
to propose to you then and and you're self aware
and it's not you know, and you're and you're good
with yourself, then I guess that's his loss.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
That's true.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
But doesn't don't you think the title boyfriend instead of
like you know, it sounds immature.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Fourteen year olds have boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, so we can change the word man friend, college
bulloom guy dude.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, fair enough. I hear that. But but are
you thinking it?
Speaker 9 (13:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
No, No, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What you said is what the part that makes you embarrassed,
in my opinion, shouldn't make you embarrassed. It's it's your
embarrassed because other people. You think other people think that.
So it's a little bit of projection that I'd like
to correct.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Fortunately enough, we are getting married in December.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He's my fiance now, so we don't got to say boyfriend,
no mo.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Congratulations, Yes, all right, thank you too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
See it would big Tim could have said he could
have walked. You would have been devastated, because that's a
that's a crappy thing to do. You would have been sad.
But then guess what next? O, Marion?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (14:08):
And I'm saying, that's why you don't put out a
boyfriend because my bench is watching and.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're so late and we got to go.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But the other part of this is that we're judging
things based on social media content, which is outrageous.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I do not care no part of your actual life.
You got to live your life.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And if that and if you want to live a
separate life, that's for everybody else. I guess fine.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But like the fact that we're now, we're now meshing
and meshing the two where my social media life and
how I'm judge on social media it plays into my
actual identity. That's the worst place on earth. Why would
you want that to be the barometer of how you're
doing in life. The Internet's the worst place on earth.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
The longer the caption, the more the problems. I stand
by that girl.
Speaker 11 (14:49):
Oh yeah, like if it's wordy and oh two souls come,
Oh the pargraph?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
What are all going?
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
More opinions from us Kelsey this time, Hi Kelsey, Hi,
how's it going? Good morning? Thanks for being here. Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So this is where people hit us seven ask us
for our opinions. Are the thirteen's opinions about steps going
on in their life. You can hit us at frendshow
radio dot com on all the different socials. This is
about your boyfriend. You guys have been together for a
year and a half and decided to move in together
and then.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
What so we looked at places. We did find one
that we really liked, and so we put in that
application for it standard process and then for whatever reason,
like we got denied for it. I said that it
ran our credit.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And do you have good crowd or is it? Was
it a little bit of a roll the dice there.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
My credit is pretty good. I mean, you know it
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, So you expected to get this though, like you
didn't do this and you're like, let's see if they
find that credit card bill or whatever. But then you
expected that it wouldn't be an issue, right.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal.
Like obviously I wouldn't put the application in because we
had to pay for that, right, So I just wasn't expecting.
So they denied us. I called, I'm like, hey, what's
going on?
Speaker 12 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 9 (16:50):
They said they couldn't proceed because of my boyfriend's credit,
not because of mine.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh, and that was surprising.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 13 (16:59):
It was.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
It was even more surprising because not only was the
credit like that, it was like really bad, Like I
didn't even know you could get a credit score that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I love.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
No shade, no shade, I love him, I love my boyfriend.
But it's also just like day, like when were you
going to tell me that? It was a lot of
like details to it too, like they owe he specifically
owes that rental company thousands of dollars, like thousands of
rent like over a past lease, and he didn't tell
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me that. And it's like if you knew, if you
knew that before we applied, why wouldn't you say that?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So and then you confronted him, right because you're like, hey,
what's going on with this? Like why didn't we talk
about it? And then what does he what's his response? Oh, yeah,
my bad, Like I thought, maybe I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Forgot the old roommate.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Basically, no, not even my bad, right, I would even
be okay with my bad. It wasn't even that it
was oh my old roommate, they didn't pay it affected
my credit, blah blah blah. We were both on the lease,
and so I'm like Okay, why wouldn't you just tell
me that, like ahead of time, you know it's the
same company. So I don't know. I just really am
confused about it because I also feel like it almost
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feels like lyon, like it's almost like a liable mission,
like you knew that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, he knew he had bad credit.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He knew they were running the credit, because that's pretty
standard when you go rent something and he didn't give
you any heads up and then and then it's someone
else's fault entirely, which then I would start to say, well,
if my credit was completely screwed, then I'm tracking that
person down. I'm trying to get the money. I'm trying
to get it straightened out, you know, because I don't
want to live like that. I don't want to run
into this every time, especially if it's actually someone else's fault.
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But then he seems a little complacent about it, even
because it's oh yeah that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's a shame, isn't it. I like that it's someone
else's fault.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Yeah, But he's you know, I will give him this,
like he is working, and he's working towards a lot
of different things. And so that's also part of why
I feel like conflict. They're right because I see him
putting in the efforts to like really rebuild himself, rebuild
his life, and so I just I don't even know
if that's But I also, at the same time don't
know if that's something I want to be involved in. Right,
It's like, I can help you a little bit, but
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I don't I don't want to be responsible for you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, can I do?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
That makes sense?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I've never I've never rented an apartment with someone else,
But I mean, can you You're gonna run into this
every time? So then are you able to are you
able to rent the apartment just you and they don't
run his credit? Or I mean, is this something that
you're not gonna be able to get an apartment until
or a good apartment or whatever, and until he clears
this up?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It is my question.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
I don't even know, Like we haven't even gotten there.
It's just I need to make the decision first. I
think as far as like, am I gonna bring him
along with me? Or am I just gonna not? You know,
so I feel like, before you know it is a liability.
It's like, do I even want to put his name
on the leash if that's the case, you know, so
it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Which is something you're gonna have to but then you're
stuck with the whole thing if something happens eight five, five, five, nine,
one one of three five. I'd love to tell what people,
if they've been through this, what they have to say
about it. You know, it's I'm glad that he's not
just sitting on the couch playing video games with bad credit,
and yeah, I don't know, and it doesn't seem to
be any motivation for him to sort of have success
in his life. That being said, I do think it's
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us that he didn't ever bring this up, like like,
why didn't he going into this process, go hey, look,
heads up, you know, I do have this situation. It's
going to come up when they run the credit. We
may not be able to get the places that we want.
And here are the steps that I'm taking to resolve
it so that it's not something that, you know, hangs
over our heads for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He didn't do that, which makes me.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Then wonder why not, you know, because again, this isn't
a surprise to him.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
No, and if he did, if he didn't know that's
a problem too, because how didn't you know that? Like,
why aren't you diligent enough? You know what I mean?
So either way, this is a problem, and I'm trying
to figure out if I want to keep being involved
in it well.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Because if it's not resolved, I don't know how long
that stuff lasts or how quickly you can turn it around.
But you know this, you might have to buy all
the cars, you might have to buy the house, you
might have to do all the renting of everything. You
might have to have the credit cards in your name.
And that's now we're talking about something. If I'm right
about that, because again I've never I've never call mingled funds.
Now we're talking about where everything is on you and
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he can just walk because it's all in your name.
And I wouldn't like that feeling either of somebody out there,
you know, sort of spending and living and existing under
my credit because you hear about this happening. And I
don't know this guy, but you sometimes hear about people
screwing up other people's credit this way and now and
then you got to fix it again.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Yeah, And I don't I don't know. I don't think
I don't know if it's worth it, honestly, No.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
Matter what you do, make sure, sorry, make sure you
move into a place that you can afford if you
do end up moving in with him, that you can
afford on your own in case something.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Happens, just so you're protected.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
But if his credit is bad, they will not allow
him on the lease, so it would be just you
getting approved. If they'll still let you have to are
running his but you need to make sure that you
can handle it on your own, just to protect yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I don't want you wind it up on keeky scored,
because that's a whole different thing. If you wind up
bumbo stair going, we got a real problem.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Let me take some phone calls and see maybe people
have lived I'm sure people have lived this before and
figured it out. But yeah, my husband Kelsey, have a
good day, and thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And have the radio one.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
See up should we call it? Thank you turned that
radio off, Bobby right now.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like the thing is I was different, like I was
very transparent of like this is like the debt that
I have occurred, a cured whatever the word is. I've
done this. This is my debt.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It occurred, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I told him the marriage and I cured it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
I told marriage, I told him after marriage and he's like, oh,
I didn't know it was this.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Uh you incurred it, by the way, but go ahead, sorry,
that was that was stuck on my way.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Well like, uh yeah, so you know, living off my
husband is it's very valid at this moment of life.
But I do contribute. Obviously, I work, and I and
I pay bills and I actually have my own home
that I purchased on my own.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Hell yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
But I do feel like a I know every dollar,
I owe where it needs to go and where it's
gonna come from. I know that part and do something
about it. And I was very transparent. And this man,
this embarrassing man, British Fogue, if you know, you know,
is not being honest and he's gonna take her down
if he doesn't change his act and clean it up.
Speaker 14 (23:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So Kaylee says, go, because you've lived through this.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Hi, Kaylee, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So how did that? Good morning? How did that go? Like?
Like why are you so?
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Everything was fine for like five years but then there
was like a back injury and then he lost that
job and then he couldn't go back, and the mental
wear of it all.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
But I'm so I finally.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Left such or seven and a half years, and I
am grateful enough to be able to have moved back
in with our dog to.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
My mom's house.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
But I'm still carrying the debt because nothing was under
his name. It was all my credit card. So I'm
I left with like thirty five thousand dollars in credit card.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I am so sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So you're in love with this guy and you're feeling
a certain kind of way, and you're like, we're gonna
be together, We're gonna work this out. So you just
put everything in your name and then this is where
this is where you wind up.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Ye okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So your advice to her is don't if he can't
be an equal partner in all of this, then then
don't do it.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Correct, don't.
Speaker 12 (24:13):
And she's early in too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right, KAYLEI, thank you, have a good day,
you too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And someone is saying it could take as much as
as many as seven years to straighten the whole thing out.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That someone's full calm. How you doing, Hey?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Great?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
How are you Hey, good morning, welcome, thanks for listening,
stare Go.
Speaker 14 (24:34):
Gocause he is not ready and she apparently is getting
herself together and it's okay. I mean, he's just not
where she is, so just keep moving and if it's
meant to be, you can circle back to each other.
But you're going to be paying for everything. The house
will be in your name, the cars will be in
your name. Creditors will be looking for you and not him.
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He has no built credit, He'll have nothing built up,
So by the time you all are older, everything will
be on you.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
So what's the point.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
You can do everything by yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough because she could, I mean,
like the last color, she could take it on, and
because she says that he is being diligent. I mean,
this would be a very different story to me if
he weren't doing anything about it. And I'm very financially conservative,
so I don't think this would work for me. But
I mean again, if you're really in love with someone,
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then I can see why it would be hard to
say I'm walking away from this thing that I think
is forever over someone who's trying to get their life
together for past mistakes. Especially if he's telling the truth
and it was somebody else's fault and this isn't a
reflection on his spending or financial future or financial goals
or ambitions or outlook. But I yeah, I mean, do
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you actually end a romantic relationship over and not be
forward with this? And you're saying yes, okay, yeah, there
you go, thank you, Carl, Okay, have a good day.
Yeah it sounds sounds harsh.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, I mean, I don't you're in love with someone
and you're not going to pursue And again I'm not
the romantic in the room. But like, I don't know,
I guess, at what point do you say I love
you so much? I'm to Caylan's point, We're going to
live within my means. You're gonna support me because you
have the money to do it and you're working towards it.
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We're not going to extend beyond that. And I'm going
to give you some time to fix this, and if
you don't, then I'm okay, because I'm not going to
be put in a bad financial situation because we're spending
for both of us and it's all going to fall
on me.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
What about that alternative?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
I mean honestly, yes, I mean, you don't take any risks,
you stack your money while you pay or link, you
be interesting, you build your credit why you pay.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, that's another thing he is you might actually want
to be a hell. The penalty for him having bad
credit might be that it's all in your name. You're
living within your means, and he's paying for you to
live within your means, And if he decides to be
a jerky and bail, then you're not in a bad
spot now. I think if you're living for two people
and you're living to the life that you want to
live someday, not the life that you necessarily have on paper,
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that's I feel like, maybe you get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Jackie.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You say go too though, Yes, okay, he definitely should.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Go because I relived something very very similar where it was, oh,
my boyfriend doesn't have good credit. So I was trying
to be nice. He's like, all right, i'll help you
book the credit. Things like that. Eventually things weren't getting paid.
Long story short, we've been you know, we were together
for six years and I had to group bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Okay, Oh god, now I have to ask you, Jackie,
in all honesty, when you when I'm sorry that happened
to you, but when you look back, was he showing
you signs that he wanted to make it better? Or
was he showing you signs that he was complacent about it?
Because look, I mean, one thing I've learned in in
you know, dating and in meeting lots of different peace people,
is people grow up in different financial situations that grew
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up in different situations, and they're sort of and I
think some of that's instilled in you, like this, Hey,
spend now, worry about it later, put it on credit,
worry about.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It later, or or hey, I don't know, I don't
really care about it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So I'm not saying that, I'm not saying the signs
were there, But would you have felt differently if you're
someone who was saying it was confronting this and saying, hey,
I know this is a problem and here the steps
I'm taking to resolve it.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Would that had been different for you?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I don't think so, because I think the underlying thing
here that I learned it looking back an as I layered,
you know, the onion back over the years is that
there was a line. So when she mentioned that he
lied about it, he couldn't say accountability and say yeah,
I messed up and that this is how I was
trying to fix it. He claimed it on the roommate.
(28:52):
That's a big red flag. Okay, So there was a
lot of lyne going on also with my with my partner,
you know, was a the accountability for things was like,
oh he got an accident, Oh that wasn't my fault,
the bus hit me, things like that. So to me,
it tells me there's no growth there and he's not
going to grow, So she should just live on her own.
(29:13):
He could be around her life if he wants to,
but he needs to deal with this himself, because when
he learns how to deal with it, he's going to
be a man and then he'll be able to beat.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
It for her.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, thank you, Jackie, have a good day. Sorry. Yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I guess they could live separately, still be together. She
could give it a year or two and see, you
know what direction it's headed, even if it's going to
take seven years to straighten it out. I mean, I
think she could definitely say I need full transparency about
your financial situation. I need to see how you're working
away at this. You're going to have to show me
I'm sorry, but like I'm not. And if he really
loves her, then he's going to understand that that's not
(29:46):
a burden that he should put onto her or someone else.
And it's going to delay their plans, but it won't
put her in a bad situation if it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Doesn't work out. WHOA how you doing?
Speaker 13 (29:57):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
What's going on? Hey man, you're the loan stay here?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Come on now?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh I'm coming on now? Why am I coming on? Now? Though?
I need you to tell me why I should say?
Why should I stay in this thing?
Speaker 13 (30:10):
I think? I think in that situation when I first
got with my wife, like my credit was bad, I
didn't even have a license. We couldn't even get a
car unless I put it in her name. And now
ten years lady later, the whole thing is three sixty.
Now everything is in my name. I take care of everything.
I got the good credit, school, and now I'm trying
to help her get back up.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Interesting, but you were clear with her about that, like Nigel,
you told her all of this up front, Like Yo,
I got I'm in a bad situation.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Shot together vaguely, and over the years, I built my
credit school up and I turned everything around, and now
it's nothing that we.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Can't get you know, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
See, But you seem to have shown the signs I'm
talking about, like you took accountability, you were transparent, you
were clear about it. You you were able to from
what you're saying, to demonstrate to her how you were
going to turn it around. You did, and now you're
doing what you should be doing. And so but it
doesn't seem like that's what one hundred percent true in her.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Case, Like keep in mind, free I went from making
twenty seven thousand and eighty thousand a year. So that's
a big difference too.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
My man. So when you're rolling like that, I mean, okay, yeah,
look here, yeah, I mean it's been money.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Money changes everything.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
I don't know how, I don't know why, but it is.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I mean, no money, more problems, but it certainly makes
the problems. I don't know. At least you're not hungry
with the problems.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I actually have less problems because I actually matured. I
don't even flirt anymore or anything like that. Any stuff that's.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Look at have to worry about. I just got money down,
so he ain't even stepping out. It's wrong.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
I do have a dime though, you know it is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It usually goes the other way.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Usually people clean up their life and all of a
sudden they thing, I'm not I can do anything.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So look at this man.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
This man cleans up his life and he stopped with
the shenanigans to Nigel. This right here, Nigel's a success story.
Right here is Nigel good for you? He's got credit
straight and he's not shating anymore. Nigel, good for you.
I know, honestly, all jokes aside, good for you. Stop
(32:23):
you stop stepping out? All right, man, have a good day.
He's a good man.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Nigel.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Nigel is the other way around, right Like people attach themselves.
I hate to say this, but people, and I'm not
talking about Nigel. We'll take him out of this, but
people in bad situations attach themselves to people who can
fix it for them. And then once their problems are fixed,
and they they then forget about that love the building,
They forgot about who helped him do it, and they're like, boy,
(32:48):
I am in a good spot now you.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Made me punch my Mic, that's true. You're making good
points today. You are on fire today, right.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's the funny thing is I'm on fire most days.
It's just you're just now realizing it to today's port Taylor.
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Mean i have a pretty good batting average, but today
I'm a hundred.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Take my compliments.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm a hundred.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Like I'm going to go home and we listen to
this like I am too. Actually, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
To go home and I'm going to go home and
play my own brilliance and just be proud of myself
for once.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm going to go home and yeah, I'm not going
to step out anymore either. I've been stepping out of
myself on my non relationship forever
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