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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the press show.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
What you don't kick?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
You brought up something interesting that you would like to
take a stand on this morning. Yes, so maybe you
know I took my stand on driving in the left lane.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
What'd I look for?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, just just wondering what I'm standing on today. You
know i'd be I'd just be saying I don't know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I mean, you wrote it about ten minutes ago. Okay,
drive through etiquin.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Oh yes, I got a lot to say, like we got.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
The thing here.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Everybody shares their ideas and then it doesn't like inevitably
when I bring up the idea and I say, hey,
so tell me about your idea on the airwhere it
looks at me like I tell you so much, I
will you do? There lots of ideas on here, but
so I stood on business and I said to the
left lane, you can't be just hanging out left lane
going slowly. You can't do them. You have something you'd
like to say about driving through? So I just think

(01:10):
let's just take the opportunity now on the fly. Eight
five five five nine one one oh three five. If
there's anything that you'd like to say, if there's any
sort of position you have about the world right now, yes,
non political, please, non religious, but like if there's.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, my platform right now is the left lane.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Today.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm very focused because last night I'm just like, repeatedly
I'm trying to get home and I'm like, why are
you going so slow in the left lane? Did no
one teach you anything about living in a society? And
so is there something that you just want to get
off your chest that you's bothering you, that people aren't
doing correctly? You'd like to make a statement, then you know,
let's use our platform with thirteen people listen to us.

(01:48):
Let's get out there. Eight five five five nine one
one oh three five. We got time, Kiki, Yes, what's yours?

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Drive through etiquette. Let's all get this in order to
get this together. This morning, I'm running okay, I'm in
the dunkin drive through.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
The lady in.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Front of me, she is too much dialogue going on,
you know, like this is Duncan you know what you
want in the morning?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
You know what you need?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hull up?

Speaker 6 (02:11):
You should have already ordered on the app. Hello, you
got that?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thank you, thank you, And if you don't like me,
you should at least have your little barco ready to
get your points. Why are we sitting here lady? To
the point, it was like seven minutes. So then the
person behind me started hunking their horn and I'm like,
right on, sister.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
My dream.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, but they're not scared because I'm like, Gary's just
gonna think it's me, Like maybe she's gonna think that
I'm the one hunting the horn. But still, let's all
stand together, because why are you in the in the
drive through line at four in the morning.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Anybody that is up at four in the morning getting
ready for work, they're.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
On business like they're handling some s.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So it could be a doctor behind you on his
way to save a child's life and perform life altering
life saving heart surgery. But he's a little caffeine on
the way in, and here you are trying to decide
between the wake up rap come on, and some munchkins. Okay,
but you knew what you wanted when you pull into drive,
so you knew this wasn't like an exploratory process.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
And if it is, then go inside.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Go inside. Like you had this whole line wrapped around
the building. These poor people are in there trying to
make their coffee for their regulars that they know are coming.
So my stuff is just sitting there getting cald. My
little baking wrap is getting cold.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Because you want to have all.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
This conversation at four in the morning, Like I think,
if you are going to get coffee in the morning,
we must have our orders together and our ducks in
a row.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Use an app.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I got another food one for you. Yes, And this
has happened many times recently. But I'm typically when I
go someplace to get somebody to eat, like and you're
waiting in a line or something, you know, like it's
like a takeout kind of place, or maybe a place
where you can dine in, but you order yourself. I'm
usually by myself and if I go for lunch, sometimes
there'll be someone from the office who was delegated to
go get food for eight people. If you're the person

(03:53):
who's in line to get food for if you have
eight orders and you see someone behind you by themselves,
you let at least one of those people go ahead
of you, if not three or four. If you got
eight orders, you should let eight people go in front
of you, because you're gonna take up the next forty
five minutes. But if someone behind you could be in
and out and already have eaten, and they're already back
to work at the plant, but you're still standing there,

(04:15):
going this person wanted guacamoli.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh no, they didn't know. They didn't.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Like, why didn't you pre order this anyway?

Speaker 8 (04:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like in the average exactly, yes, But like if you're
only doing one thing and everyone else is doing a lot.
If you're only doing if you're doing a lot of
things and someone behind you and want to let them
do the one thing, thank you anything else.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I to be thank you to me? Yes, yeah, I
got one. So okay.

Speaker 9 (04:40):
We have a dog run at our building because I
live in an apartment, and you know, sometimes it's called
the dog has got to go, and there there's dog
run etiquette. Okay, First of all, there are people that
just let their dogs take a dump and then I
just watch them, they see me watching them, and they
just walk right out.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
They don't pick up the poop at all.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
Second of all, so the dude that goes in there,
it's like an enclosed area, So like it's one by
one to the dude that goes in there. Your dog
takes a dump, You're on your phone for twenty minutes
standing there, just scrolling when I'm waiting with my dog
to let her go in and go, and she knows
she's about to go. So it's prairie dog in you know,
in there, you can't have that. It's not Why would

(05:17):
you want to hang around in there? It smells like crap?
And then I watch him leave his poop, his dog's
poop on the ground.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That's wrong. I got it. We got to pick up that.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
We got to We live in a society, right, Hey, Christina, Hello,
how are you hey?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Great? Go right ahead?

Speaker 10 (05:32):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Did you get it off your chest?

Speaker 11 (05:36):
One of the biggest pet peeves of Chicago driving is
you know where he uses there? Turning a signal.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yes, oh, yes, no, you don't know. We're so much going. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Where it's really annoying is if they're making like a
right turn and you're making a right turn. I get
a light in front of them, so they're coming the
same direction that you're about to go, and then you're
sitting there waiting and then they wind up making the turn.
So you could have gone but quickly because you didn't
know what they were going to do. You didn't want
to cut them off. But then they're like, oh, I
think i'll make a right turn here. Well, there's a

(06:06):
there's a thing on your car that would tell the
whole world that's what.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
You're going to do, and you're choosing to use the car.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, brand new car you're driving. Yeah, Christina, this is
a good one. Thank you, have a good day. You too,
Very grateful that you shared that with us. Hey, Cindy, Yes, Cindy,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
What is it? Whatever it is, get it off your chest.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Oh for me, it is the toss or the flick
of the cigarette. But going down the road out of
the car window, like I really it drives me nuts
that cars start stopped putting ashtrays in vehicles, so I
slightly blame it on the car manufacturers, but I just
want to scoop them all up and find out where
that person lizards just go dump a pile of them

(06:47):
on their front porch. That's so rude.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, Cindy doesn't like it, Thank you, Cindy. Hey, do
you feel better?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh? She hung up. I'm assuming yes. Hey, Andra.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
And everybody, Hey, good morning. You got a problem with
the left lane as well?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yes, sir, I call them left lane commandos. They love
that left lane. I'm sure all of you have heard,
or maybe you haven't. The sitting goes.

Speaker 10 (07:13):
Drive right past left right, yeah, which means the left
lane is for passing.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, you better be going.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
If you're hanging out in the left lane, you better
be going the fastest of anybody.

Speaker 10 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (07:26):
But the issue is you shouldn't be in the left
lane all yeah, Well that's unless you are actively passing
another car.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
You know, a lot of people feel A lot of
people feel that way. Now Kaitlyn does it, but a
lot of people and in some states apparently that's the law.
But but yeah, that would be a nice thing. If
there are three lanes, then the left lanes only for
passing and then the middle of their for especially then
leave the leave that one from passing.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I agree, Andre, Thank you, have a good day. Hey,
you guys, take care of Caitly. You're wrong Caitlin that she's.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Wrong, because Kaitlyn shouldn't be coming in here talking like that.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Hey, Ryan, Hey Ryan, good morning man. Welcome.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I guess we're just getting grievances off of our
chest this morning.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Off our chest, squirrel, go ahead please. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (08:12):
So, my my biggest grievance is I'm a creature of habit.
I know what I need at a grocery store. I
have it all planned out. When I go there and
people are just standing in the aisle looking at all
different products. You're an adult. You know what you want.
You know what you need to buy. Get your thing
and move out of the way.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Stop hoogging up the space.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, Ryan, I don't go to the grocery store very
often because I'm lazy, and I order it because I'm lazy.
But I can't remember the last time I went to
the grocery store. I was like, you know, I'm just
gonna browse today, Like I'm just gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I think that's for me.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Is a utility oriented experience. I'm in there to get
what I need to get, and I get it and
I go. And sure you might look through the produce
for the best bananas or whatever, but like I'm not going,
you know what, I the world's my oyster man. Maybe
I'm gonna maybe I'm gonna buy some scallops today.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I don't know, missing out, Yes, traders, there's so much
the look at.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's all different, all seasons, every time.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
What kind of chips do I wait, they want a.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Different But you're enjoying that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
At least step back from the shelf because I hate
when I got to do that little dance with you
to give my season.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
You guys are rushing your life out of the way.
I won't do anything to be out of like.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That is true. I am rushing through life. That's a fact.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Thank you for a moment.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Have a good day, Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling. Hey, Janine, Yes, Jeanine,
take it away, get it off your chest.

Speaker 13 (09:38):
It drives me crazy when people let their dog hang
out the window.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
It's so unsafe.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I've seen two.

Speaker 13 (09:43):
Dogs already fall out of the window, and I've heard
of two others, two others that had to have surgery
because they fell out of the window.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I don't know why you're trusting your I mean maybe
you know your dog well, but like, why are you
trusting your dog and you out the window?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Like, how do you know it's on a turn?

Speaker 13 (10:00):
If they go turn, there's just such a way that
they they go top heavy, and especially if their elbows
are out.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Of the vehicle.

Speaker 11 (10:07):
Oh yeah're definitely at risk to fall off.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah. I don't like it.

Speaker 13 (10:11):
People let them just kind of run back and forth,
back and forth, and then I see it and I'm like, oh,
but gives me an anxiety attack.

Speaker 11 (10:18):
I just have to get away, get away.

Speaker 13 (10:20):
I was like, I cannot be behind you.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I really thank you. Have a good day you too.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm going through these texts here quickly before we got
to go blocking the escalator, stand on the right, climb
on the left.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
When delivery drivers pay no attention to your delivery instructions,
oh yes, and I there are people that would argue,
and sometimes I would too that like if I'm so
lazy that I can't go get it myself, that I
need to accept that sometimes it won't be right. However,
like the other day I ordered two things and one
thing shows up. So when you're and God bless you
delivery drivers, because it's not for the faint of heart.

(10:52):
But when you went to pick it up, like, did
you see may I guess it even looked it? The
didn't even look But it's like the bag had one
thing in it and I ordered two things. It should
be more things in the bag, Like it should be
heavier than it would The bag should be heavier.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Ooh, another thing? Can I say something? Sure?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I really, it just came to my mind. Okay, why
is the tip?

Speaker 9 (11:13):
And I always tip more than twenty percent.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I want to get that out right away.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
But why is the tip more depending on the price
of the food you're ordering?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
If I'm ordering the exact same amount of food.

Speaker 9 (11:23):
Same weight, same process to get it, why is my driver's.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Tip based on the total? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
But why if.

Speaker 9 (11:30):
I'm ordering from like a steakhouse and it's more expensive
than I'm ordering from McDonald's, the process of picking it
up is the same. I will tip you a good tip,
but why is it based on the food?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, because no, I think they're trying to I think
that they're using the same model as like if you
if you ate at the restaurant, which is not fair
because if I go to a restaurant in fairness, and
I would hope that most delivery drivers would appreciate this,
but you gotta tip well if you expect the full service,
in my opinion, But if I order, let's say, splurge
on something, You're right, I'm probably not gonna tip you
twenty dollars if I order one hundred dollars or the

(12:03):
food for three people to whatever it is the way
that because you're right like it, unless I'm making you
carry eight bag, yes, then it's definitely I agree with
that if it's one bag in the same process. But
I think what the app automatically does is they just
take whatever ten percent or fifteen or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But I do think that you should give me quantity.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
You pay more if you sit down than you do
if and I'm also paying a fee to have it delivered,
so then I get that the delivery driver doesn't get
all of that. But like, as a consumer, I've now
paid more for the food, more for the service of
the driver, and the tip, which you should tip. But
I guess you're right, Like, should I really have to
tip twenty percent or fifteen percent delivery orders, if it's

(12:44):
the same amount, if it's the same quantity.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
That I never thought of that with that and.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You're doing God's work out there bringing me all my meals,
and I really appreciate it. The other thing is you
tip on most of the apps. You tip before, and
what I've noticed is that sometimes they don't complete the
service fully or they or I've already tipped you and
I didn't get all my food.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
He didn't double check.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's like, look, you consist I would think consistently as
as a community of drivers, the ones who are really
taking this seriously and double checking their work and completing
the service and bringing it to the door knocking whatever.
If that's what you're supposed to do, you're doing. The
people who don't are doing a disservice because it's like, now,
I don't want to tip ahead of time, but if
you don't tip ahead of time, then you won't get
the full service anyway, because then people think they're not

(13:26):
getting tipped, right Jason, because you used to do it.

Speaker 14 (13:28):
Yeah, you'll see it and be like, oh, yeah, I'm
gonna take my time. If you put in there like
you know, cash or whatever. You know, when you get here.
People also be lying, so because.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I am going to tip, but I've been burned a
number of times where I give a good tip and
then you don't, you don't do the whole thing or
it's not right, and then I'm like, wait a minute,
I already tipped you. I'm not gonna take it back,
which you can do. You can reverse the tip, but
I'm not gonna do that. I think you can go
and change and change it. Oh, I didn't know that,
which I think some people do. That's messed up too.
I've heard people will put a good tip and then
change the tip to like a crabby tip for no reason.

(14:05):
I don't like that either. Yeah, he's your excellent points.
I'm glad that you all brought them up.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We may have to do this more consistently because I want.
I'm glad we're able to use our platform for good.
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Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yes, okay, go sit them. If you said no, we
would just want to have moved on. Hi, Kelly. Oh
you gotta push that on button. Hi Kelly, Sorry on.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's important to push when you're want people to talk
in the radio.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
How you doing.

Speaker 15 (15:08):
Hey, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I wanted some advice.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh, she's right into it, man, like she did. This
is serious, No, not at all. All right, let's talk
about this. I have I'm gonna pretend like I don't
know what you're about to say, but I've read your note. Okay,
this is about your boyfriend.

Speaker 15 (15:27):
It is Yeah, we've been together for gosh six six
and a half years.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, and so yeah, and you you witnessed something rather
unfortunate for you and for him, quite frankly, because nobody
really wants to get caught uh like this, But explain
what what did you see?

Speaker 13 (15:51):
So?

Speaker 15 (15:51):
I had gotten home from work and I walked in
on him watching. Let's call it adult content if.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
You will, I see familiar, I see yeah, yeah, the
was it on the fun iPad?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Was did he have his did he have his full laptop?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
It makes a difference.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Was he in front of his desktop computer? Was it
a video? Is it a projector? Why does it make
a difference.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Because I need to know, like if you have a
projector out like.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
He wheeled out the screen, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
when you're on my couch watching on my eighty inch
it's not even sanitary. Okay, now, sorry, but what is
the answer though?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Was it phone? The phone?

Speaker 15 (16:34):
Luckily it wasn't a projector, but it was his iPad,
so it was a little bit bigger iPad.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's serious.

Speaker 15 (16:44):
Well, and that's why I was able to see it
very clearly. Uh that you know, it was not the
kind of adult content that I was expecting. Again, I watch,
I watched. There's nothing wrong with it. It was just
that he was watching. Uh gay ah, man.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Up and walked out. She just walked out.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
You can't compete with that, Okay, did you finish?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
All right? So you wow? All right?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So so you walk in on this first of the
logistams of the iPad to it, I know, I'm caught,
I'm caught on the details here. But so so you
walk in he's watching content that is not congruent with
what you thought he was into, based on the fact
that you've been with him for six and a half years,
And did you did you say something of him, because look,

(17:47):
I mean, you're right, there's nothing wrong with consuming that
kind of content. I realized that it's slippery slope. There
can be other issues and connection issues, and there's a
lot of there's a lot of reasons why this could
be problematic. But in itself, watching that kind of content
is all right. And but but yet this was this
was not this was not what you thought he was into.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So you asked him about it. What does he say?

Speaker 15 (18:09):
Well, I had said, like, what what is happening? And
he said he wanted to try something new, like and
you know, listen again, there's nothing wrong with it, and
he said it's fantasy, like I'm not going to act
on it. People do that, like I I don't want.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
To do it in real life. Jason heard this one before.

Speaker 14 (18:30):
Yeah, but I do think that it's okay to I
don't know you. I don't watch everything I would actually do, right, Like,
do you use everything that you watch?

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Are you actually going to try to do in real life?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
No? No, ye gay?

Speaker 8 (18:51):
You know.

Speaker 15 (18:53):
Will And that's what he has said, like he flipped the.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Script something like.

Speaker 15 (19:00):
Watch two women, So why like, what's wrong with me?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's kind of a double standard, I will, I will say,
there is a double is it?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Everybody can be watching two girls and that's.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Not a lot of three women do say that they
watch that.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, and that's no one's saying anything about that.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
But then you know a couple of dudes and now
all of a sudden, we you know, now we're questioning
someone's like true identity.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
That is that is a good point that it is.
There's a double standard there.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah it was her. We wouldn't be better. This man
would not be bating an eye at her, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 16 (19:30):
They was like, it's another Tuesday at the house, but
because it's too men exactly bred.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah right, But but I will say I don't like, yeah,
well we'll get to that, but like I don't I
don't mean, yeah, I'm trying to interrupt you, but I
I wouldn't say.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I have vast.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Conversations with my friends about what sort of content they like,
but none of them have shared with me that they
like watching two Men.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
So I don't know if that's just like enough level.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Or if it's simply a double standard and I should
be able to watch that and no one should say
two things about it, like I don't know, I don't
know why that is so so he's just fantasizing you
have other concerns. Have you ever had any other reason
to question and try if you can to remove the
fact that you're now sort of influenced by what you
saw him watching. Have you ever had any concern otherwise?

(20:22):
Like without this never, I feel like sometimes something happens
and you're like, oh, I've been seeing the signs, but
maybe you're putting two things together that weren't already there.
So never, you've never and everything in your life intimately
has been sound and and.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
All of that.

Speaker 15 (20:38):
Yeah, and we're I mean, you know, again, we've been
together forever, but it's not like you know that is
an issue for us.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
We are physical together.

Speaker 15 (20:48):
You know, of course, now I'm over analyzing everything, like, oh, yeah,
a couple of months ago, when he said, oh my gosh,
that man is you know that he's like an Adonis,
and I thought, oh, about.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
To jump him. I'd love to jump him. Intimately, I
love them up and that you know, now you're concerned about.

Speaker 15 (21:07):
This, thinking yeah, of course, and then like, oh my gosh,
you know last week when we were intimate, was he
thinking about that Adonnas of the supermarket?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Like you know, if he's referring to other men as adonis,
maybe we yeah, yeah, maybe maybe we have more to
talk about here. Okay, I want to take some phone
calls to this. I want to see if other people
have to say eight five five three five. We'll surveyed
the room here as well. I appreciate you sharing this.
Have the radio on and let's see what people say.
Maybe other people can relate and have been through this.

Speaker 15 (21:37):
Good luck, Kelly, thank you, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Got it so in short, this man that she's been
with for six and a half years, she walked in
on him consuming content uh of two gay of two men,
of two men enjoying one another's company a lot, and
and it's it's uncharacteristic. It's that what she thought he

(22:01):
was into. He's never expressed that before, And what I
was saying to her was I didn't want her to
jump to conclusions like I didn't want her to say, Well,
now that he did that, now I can connect the
dods to a bunch of other stuff. If he's really
calling other men adonis, then it's interesting. But here's the
other thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't value her.
It doesn't mean that he doesn't value what they do together.

(22:23):
It's possible that the guy is by curious maybe, but
that doesn't that doesn't if the concern here is that
it's that his affection for her, or his life for her,
or their life together is fraudulent, I don't think it
necessarily says that. It doesn't have to mean that. It
could mean that he has some kind of fantasy that
he's not comfortable sharing because of this kind of speculation

(22:46):
or the double standard that we referred to earlier, or whatever,
But like I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I you're right if I walked in on it.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
If I'm dating a woman and I walked in she
was watching two women, I wouldn't necessarily assume that I'm
no longer you know, she's not into me, So I
don't know why it would be fair to do it
the other way around. We all agree or or or
or no.

Speaker 16 (23:10):
Well, I just think sometimes like what we watch doesn't
really always equal like real life, especially like the Damsel
in Distress, Like, no, I will never like, you know,
be like doing things with like the burglar that comes
in the house, right, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Good, sounds like something done many times, tim breaking in
the house again, climbing through the window again, I'm here to.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Know, but like in the bedroom, yes, So like I
don't know.

Speaker 16 (23:48):
I just feel like what I have questions absolutely like yeah,
why not? But at the same time, it's like I
got to think back to like when you first discover
this stuff and you're like exploring. It's like, did you
not like look into that, you know, when you first
discovered it? Do you know what I'm saying, Like maybe
it's new to him or in the situation, new to her.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Boys, I'm just not certain that m hmm if her
concern is that because why would you, Okay, why would
somebody worry about this? You'd worry because it's like, oh,
he likes men, he doesn't like women. Well, I don't
think it necessarily means that it could mean he also
likes men, because apparently he likes her and she was
none the wiser, and their intimate life has been sound

(24:26):
until she saw this, and now she's second guessing it.
So if that's her worry, then I don't necessarily think
that she that that one leads to the other. Now, Jason,
you in a previous time in your life, Yeah, you
were with women and you did not necessarily like or
care for them, but you also did know, right, And
I don't mean to speak for you, but we've talked
about this at length for a decade or longer. You

(24:49):
did know that that wasn't necessarily what you wanted to
gravitate towards. You were kind of doing it to conform, right.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 12 (24:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:56):
I think like you sort of set out and think
what you should do and what you should be in
the world. But I mean, I definitely did care for
the women that I was with, and so there's a
world where.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
He could maybe be with her because he's repressing what
he really wants to do.

Speaker 14 (25:13):
People do that every single day. But I think to
jump to that conclusion just from this specific example is
a little much.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Six and a half years would be with someone while
you really want to do something else is a very
long time. And then for her to not see any
sign or feel any sort of gap in the connection,
you know what I mean, like if.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
You'll do it all the time though people live secret
lives relationship.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I guess life, Yeah, I guess Hey, Sarah, Yeah, Hey,
what do you think if you're just tuning in a
woman with a boyfriend of six and a half years,
she walks in on him watching content that is not
necessarily what she brings to the table, and now she's
questioning everything.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
I think she should still say. I think, you know,
it's somewhat normal for you know, people to watch that again,
like you said, the double standard, and if you bisexual,
that still doesn't change you know how he feels about her.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean I can just now I'll aver jokes like
the George Michael posters all over the room is I mean,
you know you might have I don't know. He loves
to go to he loves to go to a village
of people or whatever. The village people cover band shows.
But you know what I mean, that's that's normal, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know you have a steamworks all right?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
All right, Sarah, So it's normal and and and so
she should stick with it.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I think so, yeah, okay, fair enough, Thank you, Sarah.

Speaker 10 (26:46):
I have a good day, of course, Thanks you too.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Glad you called. Hey, Josie. How you doing, Josie? So
you call the.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Station? Look alive Josie radio? Stay all right now? Thank
you for calling him for listening? What say you?

Speaker 11 (27:08):
I think she should stay okay? And I say that
because I feel like maybe there needs to be a
little bit more communication between them. I know it's been
they've been together quite a long time, and like he
said it, you know, it is a fantasy that maybe
he was just a little bit embarrassed to like tell

(27:30):
her about I kind of went through a similar situation
with my now fiance, except that my fiance in the
past acted upon it. And we're still kind of working
through that whole what what what the heck did you do?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
How did he acted upon it?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Now? How did he did he act upon it before
he met you? Did he cheat on you with a man?
Like when you say acted upon it and you work
through it, like, what does that mean?

Speaker 11 (27:57):
So he before he met me and it was with
a transgender man who wanted to be a woman, and
he knew this person before he met me, and then
while we were dating, he acted upon it recently. So

(28:19):
we're still trying to work through that. And with our
communication that we've been going through is that he told
me it was fantasy. Obviously, the typical lack of judgment.
I was being selfish, blah blah blah. So we're still
trying to work through that. But I will never forget
because I live and die by the Golden Girls. And

(28:40):
one of the quotes in the show that Sophia says
is that if you could erase this one moment in
your entire relationship, is this the person that you still
want to be with? And my answer was, yet, we
are working. We are working through that, rebuilding that trust.

Speaker 16 (29:00):
You know.

Speaker 11 (29:00):
Obviously everyone has their fantasies, everyone has their their likes.
But he does not really want to communicate his feelings
because he feels embarrassed about the things that he likes
in that aspect. But he has been more open about it,
which I'm glad that he is more comfortable to talk
to me about that.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, I think that's a good sign, right, That's good.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Now you've opened the lines of communication You've made him
feel accepted, and so I think you're going to get
the truth, as opposed to if you shunned him or
you pretended like it never happened, then in the back
of your mind you'd always wonder, like, what's really going
on here? But I think you've done the right thing.
You've said, this is a person I want to be with,
and I accept you for who you are. So let's
work through this and let's let's have an open dialogue.

(29:45):
I think I think that's the only.

Speaker 11 (29:47):
Way exactly, and communication is key.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
And you're right.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
I didn't shun him because I feel like if I did,
then he would be a lot less, a more reluctant
to community date with me about sum Say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I think you're right, Josie. I'm glad you called. I'm
glad that I yelled at you to talk to me
because this is a great You woke me up.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I love you. Have a good day.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah. All these years later, man, Hey Amber, Hi, Amber,
good morning, there go go. Why oh, well, with my.

Speaker 17 (30:23):
Opinion, if that was me and I was with a
man for over six years and you know, I randomly
saw him doing what he was doing the middle of
the night, morning, whatever time of day it was. I
would almost kind of be like offended, almost in shock,
especially if I didn't know that that was something that
he was into or exploring. I don't think I can

(30:44):
be with somebody that's even bisexual or has ever been
with a man ever. That's just, you know, not something
that I'm into. I'm completely heterosexual, and that's you know,
how I would want my boyfriend or husband or you know,
fiancee to be or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know, six years is more than.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Half a decade.

Speaker 17 (31:02):
That's you know, a pretty good chunk of time for
somebody that you've been with and they've never done this before.
You know, you never knew about this, So for it
to be like new information, you know, I don't think
it's worth.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Saying okay, fair enough, Hamberg, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I think the bottom line is that if she really
cares about this man and really wants to be with him,
and she can live with it, live with what she saw,
then the only way is to have a dialogue and
to make the guy feel like she's comfortable with him,
and maybe the end result is that we find out
that they're not supposed to be together. Or that, or
that he has been repressing something. But like again, you
can shun it and then he's never going to tell

(31:38):
you anything about anything and you're always going to wonder,
or you can have the conversation is I don't know
that there's another choice.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
Yeah, seeing a man do that at all is a
little terrifying. So no matter what he's watching, you know,
how do you get that on your brain?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, that's that's something that we you never you never want.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
You kind of you know, I would look with so
much shame, like if someone want to.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Know you never never want to get cut with myself.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh yeah, I like it. I'd like to see it.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
The act. You know what I'm playing you off now?
It's any neurotic I you

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