December 15, 2025 • 22 mins
Paulina is mad that schools don't teach kids how to read or write in cursive anymore! Plus, Judge Keke weighs in on Christmas drama on an all new Keke's Court!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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writing in our diaries, except we say them allowed. We
call them blogs. Paulina, Yes, go right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Ahead, Thank you so much, dear blog.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Something that's been weighing heavy on my heart and like
my mind lately is that children these days, they don't
experience a lot of things that we did growing up.
We know that already and that's not new, it's not
lost on me. But one thing that I don't like,
I have an issue with is not knowing how to
write cursive.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's on your heart this morning, it's really heavy, Like
give your kid the gift of cursive?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, I like, please like do like because here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My mom actually made a comment or maybe somebody else
did you recently that because she works in a school
and a lot of times the kids would have to
come in and sign paperwork and this is sad, but
they don't know how to sign their name.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And that got me thinking, well, you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Know how to write, but then you don't know how
to write cursive, because when you sign a signature, isn't
it typically cursive?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Is that how you guys were taught.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
If you have a print signature, then you are a
serial killer, or you're a child I don't know mature
is print? Or you're my niece Polly who's four exactly, Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Why are like twelve, thirteen, sixteen year olds not signing
their name? Like to me, I thought that was just
something that you grow up kind of learning, and that
really shook.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Me to my They don't teach cursive it, I don't
think they. Okay, they for a while.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, I'm looking it up. It says twenty ten.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know if it's banned, but like it got
it stopped because of common Core, which I don't know
what that is.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So don't even like math, I think, right, So what
is math? I think, but it might be it might
be for the reaching and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, it's common core something and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Me too, and they're not teaching kids cursive, which bothers
me because like I have a child who's almost two,
and I'm like starting to like look at schools.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I know, I'm a little I'm crazy whatever, but I
want her.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To go to a school where, honestly a caveman's school
this point, like I want her to use her hands
and figure things out. I don't want iPads, and I
truly like parents don't have me, don't don't don't fight me.
I don't want to give my kid an iPad unless
like we absolutely have to. You know, I'm talking about
like the long plane rides, all of that car rides,
like long car rides. I'll do that, but I'm not
just gonna give it to her like on a Tuesday
afternoon when she's two years old, just because like.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't get school looking at Harvard online, Well we've.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Gone to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You guys want my kids a genius because yeah, my
kid is like really smart for almost two. Like I'm sorry,
I'm a big flex on you. It's like if my
kids smart, well.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Remember during the draft recently, I think that there was
a young kid who didn't know how to sign his
like NFL contract, like you know where literally just says,
I sign your name here. And I think he was
had to ask for help because he's a never signed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
A contract before. But b they don't like know what
to do, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I feel like basic life skills, like I don't know
how to boil an eggtels like twenty five years old.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I admit that right then, a basic lis.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think I should be the boiling.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Egg, like I really learned that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He yes that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, now, I'm sure all the technology we cauld boil eggs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Laid it probably does.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But like my whole point is like I just want
my kid to like use I don't know, like her
brain and critical thinking skills and like learn how to
write her name or at least sign her name when
she's twenty years old going to.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Harvard, Like I want her to be able to sign
her name. Well, people over here, you know, we learned.
I think I brought this up before and you guys
didn't know what I was talking about. But I'm not
that much older than you guys. But we had print.
Of course, we learned how to write in print, and
then we had Danelion, which was which was one step between.
I looked up with there one night and in New Orleans.
(04:01):
She was incredible. No, I worked with her at at Lebert. No. No,
it was a mixed but it was like the step
between print and cursive. It was like print, but it
had like the little endings on it. And then you
went from Danelion to cursive because you like, basically you
learn how to write each cursive word in cursive without
(04:21):
connecting them. That was Danelion, and then and then you
had But here's the thing. The very second that somebody
stopped poleasing cursive, I started writing in print, and I
write like an architect. But the problem is it takes
me a very long time to write something. I bet.
I wish that I had sort of paid more to
I don't know, kept up captured my cursive because like,
(04:44):
it's so much faster to write in cursive than this
then print, and I write in print, and so I
wish I didn't. But common Core are the learning standards,
not just now I remember them. However, whatever that is
no cursive Montssori school, someone said could send them there.
Some Catholic schools still teach it, I guess. I'm sure
they teach a lot of things. Yeah, I don't know.
(05:09):
I don't know. You're right though they don't. I don't
think it's a common thing anymore. And I think it's
because where they assume that people just don't have to
write anything anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I know we live in a very digital world, but
I think again, like, boil an egg, write in cursive
two things that we just got to teach our kids.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I'm gonna start now.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gigi's gonna learn how to write her autographs.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And make my eggs, make mommy her eggs age too.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, no, I get it. I get Mommy a beer.
And that you're more upset about the egg thing.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I am, because I'm like worry, like why I don't
know how to boil the egg specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But like how long are you supposed to boil it?
Like I didn't know, I had to look at but
like you could probably boil it too much. Oh yeah,
I'm sure you can't. Honestly, if you gave me a
pot of water and a bunch of eggs, I don't
I could probably figure it out, but it would take
it like a little trial and error, and who.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Knew about the ice path after?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And then to get the shells off easier? This is
not people are just bring with this, Kiki, come with
it with the original program, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Jame, it's brown on the phone right now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I got a little like a little machine for it now.
And what do I need that for?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You need to know, bro, what if the machine is broken?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Then I guess it's I don't. I didn't realize deviled
eggs were such a staple of survival. Well, I don't
have to mail. I gotta make that too. Yeah, this
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Court Rise the Honorable Ow Kiklik is here, you're or
(07:00):
take it away? Please?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
All right, let's get into the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says Kiki. Am I wrong for ruining
Christmas because I won't travel with a newborn. I gave
birth six weeks ago after a rough delivery. I'm still
healing and have two other kids, five and three. My
mother in law insists that everyone travels six hours to
(07:21):
her house for Christmas every year, and we've taken the
drive year after year.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
However, this year I.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Said no because I'm dragging a new I don't want
to drag a newborn and two small kids across state
lines during the flow season. My husband backed me up
and offered that we do a family FaceTime call on
Christmas morning instead.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, my mother in law lost it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
She said I'm being lazy and dramatic and accused me
of using the baby to control her son. Then she
sent a family group text saying Christmas was basically canceled
because some people refuse to make sacrifices. Now half of
the family is mad at me and telling me just
to deal with it for one day, and my mother
in law says I stole her Christmas and her grandkids.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Am I wrong? I mean I have a lot of
thoughts with Kiki, true.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And you know, as the childless aunt, I want to
give grace to the mother in law who probably looks
forward to making memories with her grandkids every year, Like
every holiday, I look forward to being around my nephews.
I look forward to it. I'm so excited I want
to give I want to give grace to the mother
in law, right. But after that, what you have to
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learn as an adult is that people are allowed to
set boundaries and make decisions for their families, and postpartum
is real. And if she doesn't feel like attending this year,
give her this year. Hopefully she doesn't make this a
new tradition where you never see your grandkids because you
threw a fit. So it's just like, I understand the
frustration of the grandparents, and you know, traditions are being
(08:54):
you know broken in their opinion, But this lady is
going through postpartum. So if she doesn't want to attend
this year, give her that. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I mean, in the mom in the room, I assume
you have no dispute there.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I can't think of one. And if she if she
never wants to go back to see her mother in law.
I also wouldn't be mad at that either, like truly, no,
not in a bad way, but like she's got three kids,
she got to drag around Like I'm barely getting around
with one kid right in my little Nissan.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like it's a lot of work to get around town
with the kid. So now pack up three kids, go
across state lines. No, and like, yes, she's six weeks postpartum,
she's in a diaper. Like it's a lot. I'm serious,
it's a lot going on in her world.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And she does not have to please anybody truly ever ever,
but like especially for the holiday season and Christmas, and
if mother in law feels like she wants to see
grandkids and do these memories, like maybe they could work
something out or mother in law comes over or something.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Maybe that's a big maybe. I don't, I don't know
the situation.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Right, they want to talk about how your house not clean?
That's a big minute. She sounds the kind of woman
who would do that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, shoudn't sound great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, eight, one, three, five, You guys at the Jerry,
I'm sure people have something to say about this. I mean,
my mom, if she were listening, she would say, my
nieces are three and five, and it's like she wants
my sister to load them up and bring them to
and my sister does it a couple of times a year.
I know it's a lot of work. Granted, my mom
did it with us, so it's one of those things
where it's like, you know, grandmas want to see their grandkids,
(10:19):
and my mom does travel to Dallas and awful lot
to see them, so it's not like she doesn't pull
her weight. My sister would tell you, well, it's a
lot of work to bring these kids around. Well, yeah,
I mean, but it's also part of being a family.
The thing for me is, first of all, this is
the third kid under five, was it. Yes. The second
thing is really the proximity to birth. Like, look, we're
(10:40):
talking about six weeks an infant were newborn. I mean,
that's totally unreasonable to ask. Maybe in a year or two,
but I don't know why isn't mother in law jumping
to gold to where they are.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well, she might have offered that, but I don't think
that this daughter in law once are there either, because
think about it, if I'm in a diaper. It's probably
miss saying I'm going through postpartum, my head, little kids.
I don't necessarily want to host my in laws either, right,
I just want a year off to get my mind right,
get my body right, and raise these kids, and then
maybe we can pick up the tradition next year.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
If mother in law's thrown out a bunch of scenarios
that require very little from new mom, then I might say, Okay,
is there no compromise here, you know, if she's if
she's saying, I'll fly to you, I'll stay in a hotel,
I'll stay out of your way. I just want to
see my grandkids on Christmas or near Christmas or whatever,
and she's saying, no, no, no. The problem is, I
think sometimes the personalities of these very eager mom grandmothers
(11:37):
can be off putting in itself. You know, it can
come off very aggressive when they have the best in
Like my mom. I love her to death, she has
the absolute best intention, but she pushes, and you know,
she and my sister are the same woman in many ways.
So it's like you're pushing you and you wouldn't like
to be you know what I mean. So it's like
you're getting a nobe to set boundaries. But I know
(11:59):
you and you see that as rejection, but yet you
have the best intention. You just want to be a
part of their lives. I get all of that for me,
though it's six weeks ago you had a baby. No,
they're not going to travel to you. No. No.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I would love to hear from the thirteen because I
struggled with this being the only girl in my family.
I don't have kids.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
My brothers have the kids.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But I feel like you're so used to your family tradition,
like we always get together on this day. How dare
you have to go to your other in law? You know,
like I don't want to share you. I don't want
to share the family. So it's hard, but you have
to just be okay with it because people are allowed
to set boundaries.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah. Well, and you know that there was if you've
been listening for a little while years ago, there was
a it was a rough transition in our house and
my sister said, we're not coming for Christmas anymore or
Thanksgiving because we want to have our own traditions in
our own home. And that was hard, and it wasn't
because she was wrong. It was hard because our family
is very close, that we're used to doing things a
(12:55):
certain way for a long time, and that included when
we were young and our grandparents and the whole thing.
So we're breaking a multi generational tradition of being together
on Christmas and as and people have said, why don't
you go to Dallas? I wouldn't say we were invited, Like, honestly,
I don't. I don't think that's I don't think that's
even an option because and I think I don't think
(13:16):
it's a lack of love. I think I think she's
drawing a firm boundary. Now, is that a boundary that
I would draw that firmly? No, I would give a
little more than my sister is, because she is getting
a lot too, you know what I mean. But like
because I just get on a plane and go there
and stay in a hotel, It's like, I'm not entirely
sure we were included. So so you know, I think
(13:40):
I do think there's give and take. I think I
think sometimes, you know, the burden is on the parents
to provide opportunities for the grandparents, and then the grandparents.
I think sometimes I have to show grace to the
kids when you know it, but yeah, it's it's a
very hard thing. Family. Family can become very complicated, even
when there's a lot of love. Hey, Dominique, Hi, Hi,
(14:02):
so you have a new born. Congratulations by the.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Way, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And so you hear this scenario where you've got a
and I wonder if the mother in law because you
hear mother in law and then you automatically like feel
this disconnect, right, but not necessarily that. But here's this woman,
she really wants everyone together on Christmas, and her daughter
in law who just had a baby six weeks ago, saying,
nah is it We're not doing this, and she has
two other kids under five, like, I can't do it
(14:27):
right now, and there's some tension there.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
What do you think, Yeah, I have a three month old,
I have a three year old. And if the first
six months are so hard, especially around like flue season,
RSV season, and the holiday season on top of that,
the mom and her family should be at home with
her kids, her young ones. This is like primetime Stanta
time for them. They should be waking up on Christmas
(14:53):
morning in their home in their pajamas with their family
and Grandma is now in law or on the mom's
side are now extended family, So it's about the family
that you made, not the family you came from. Now
they need to be prioritized. So Grandma needs to go
to them and at least like be the community that
she probably claims that she is, because it takes a
(15:15):
lot of take a tribe to raise kids, especially during
the fluid holiday season.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I agree with at minimum. At minimum, what she's
pitching should be things that are easy on the MoMA.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And that's so real to say when you say you
know you are the family.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
What did you say, the extended family? Send family? Yeah, hard,
but it's true.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
You know true, and my parents too. My my family
comes over to my house because it's about the grandkids now,
it's not about anybody else. Yeah, Eason with Christmas and
Santa and then a new baby come out? Yeah what
about mom and baby and the family?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Traditions need to change. I think the harder you push,
the less likely you are to be included in those traditions,
and that can be hard to Dominique, Thank you so
much and congratulations again, have a good day.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You guys too, Glad you called. Hey Kimmy, good morning.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Do it next year.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Kimmy. Hey, Kimmy, Kimmy, I tell Kimmy, Kimmy, I just
I just picked up the phone. I don't know what
you were saying. You gotta you gotta start over.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Oh I'm sorry. Okay, Well, what I'm saying is that
this lady's in the right. I just popped out a kid.
I got two other toddlers. There ain't no way I
am going six hours with a newborn to Christmas. I
am going to tell my mother in law. I'm sorry,
(16:37):
but we're doing this next year. You all go ahead,
everybody else, go ahead, do it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm not offended.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Please by all means, go ahead. I'll wait till next year,
and I'll see you all next year.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Let's face time. Yeah, yes, Kimmy, thank you so much.
I'm really glad you called. No, that's what it is.
It's again six weeks ago. That's uh. So we have Kimmy.
Now we have kim Hi, kim How you doing? I'm well,
how are you doing? Great? Kiki's court? What say you?
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I when I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
When I heard this, this immediately really frustrated me because
I have a not technically newborn vibe of micro premi.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
He was born at twenty five weeks.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
He was born, you know, back in May, and even
though you know he's still he's like almost seven months,
like it's still newborn kind of status, and any little.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Cold could send him to the hospital.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
So the fact that there's this judgment for you know,
wanting to keep her, the mom safe.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
The baby safe, is just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
How's your son doing, by the way.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
He's really good. He's done a little bit of oxygen,
but you know, he's doing really good.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
But we have to be so careful, like they can't
bring him around to anybody sick.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
So yeah, I just I fight for the mom in
this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, always, Yeah, Well, Kim, thank you, have a good day,
good holiday as well, you too.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Love you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I love you too. Thanks for listening. Appreciate it. Jackie, Hello,
Hi Jaggie. What's your take? You're the jury, So no,
I don't think that.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
She's wrong at all. I had a similar situation. I
had my daughter's July second and then my system off
wedding was the fifteenth of July, and she wanted me
to go with my daughter and I told her no
because I just had her, you know, and same thing.
You know, I would be in a dress, the wearing diaper,
(18:28):
so healing, and she was bad and she thought that
I was using that as an excuse not to go
through her wedding. So I sided with the mom here.
She's not wrong at all whatsoever. Especially the nurse even
told us, like before we left the hospital, she's like,
make sure that the baby doesn't go out because she's say,
feed it. A lot of times where you know, parents
(18:50):
want to take the baby everywhere, ends up sick, that
ends up back in the hospital, and especially with ours
b being so like serious, you know, her babies do
end up oxygen you know, that can pass away from that.
I agree with her on her at whole, you know,
because that's very important as well as a mom to
heal and not you know, like start doing stuff too
(19:14):
early because then you know you're going to have all
these those here.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, thank you guys im here yeah,
g'd you called. Have a good day. This is a
good point on the text, by the way, And I
was thinking about this the other day too. I think
we give too much weight to the actual date of
the holiday. Why does it have to be twelve twenty five,
get together in January. The kids don't care. My family
(19:37):
celebrated Christmas as early as the first week of December.
If that's when extended family could get together, I guess,
I guess there's it's kind of a mental thing. Everyone
else is together on this day, doing this thing, right,
posting their pictures on Instagra exactly. So, but I mean,
you know, I like, yesterday I was at the airport.
I see the airline pilots get on this thing. I'm like,
you know a lot of these guys are gonna have
(19:57):
to work on Christmas, Christmas Eve. I'm sure that they
have kids. And it's like, well, we'll just do it
when I get back, or we'll do it the day
before or for your friends, right right, Because you're as
responder exactly, He's not a hobby's a firefighter. I'm on
the radio. You're my first so clear, this isn't off
on Christmas.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
The Paulina so the first person I call when I
need something.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
So, you know, fire in the house, Paulina. You know
I'm choking on something. Paulina. Hey Teresa, Hey, Hi Teresa,
So Kicki's court. Basically, we have a situation where a
mother in law wants her daughter in law and her
grandkids at Christmas, but she just gave birth six weeks
ago and she's saying no, and she's getting guilted for that.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
I think she has ever right to say no. I
gave birth my daughter, who's going to be eighteen December
twenty first had to get released from the hospital early
because both sides of my family still expected me to host,
and I did. Wow, this mom should be empowered and
stay home.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah. Wow, I think my mom would tell you the
same thing. She hosted. Thanks. I mean, I think she
had me the next day, but she didn't know I was.
I was early. But yeah, I think that the expectation
was or maybe it was maybe it was it. I
don't remember one of the case. Maybe people have expectations
and oh wow crazy, that is nuts. And now it's
weird that you still won't let them come eighteen years later,
but that's that's a whole different thing. You definitely won't
(21:21):
let them come. So there it is.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
My mother love hosts now and she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
There you go, Theresa, Thank you, have a good day,
Mary Christmas. I don't think there's I'm looking at all
these texts. There's not one counter take here. There's not
one person going.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Well, I was looking for a boomer that would like
stand on business again.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Where's my mom? She's in a sleep still. She'll text
in and she'll think it's me, but it's to everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah I did it, but maybe I'm a met.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I promise you, whenever the moment this is heard in Arizona,
which is gonna be somewhere three or four hours from now,
I'm going to get a call. But you know I'm awesome.
I'm gonna everybody, thanks kidding you streaming and your sister.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I hear a come fress mom again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She may have even hurt in her sleep. She gonna
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call them blogs. Paulina, Yes, go right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Ahead, Thank you so much, dear blog.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Something that's been weighing heavy on my heart and like
my mind lately is that children these days, they don't
experience a lot of things that we did growing up.
We know that already and that's not new, it's not
lost on me. But one thing that I don't like,
I have an issue with is not knowing how to
write cursive.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's on your heart this morning, it's really heavy, Like
give your kid the gift of cursive?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, I like, please like do like because here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My mom actually made a comment or maybe somebody else
did you recently that because she works in a school
and a lot of times the kids would have to
come in and sign paperwork and this is sad, but
they don't know how to sign their name.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And that got me thinking, well, you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Know how to write, but then you don't know how
to write cursive, because when you sign a signature, isn't
it typically cursive?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Is that how you guys were taught.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
If you have a print signature, then you are a
serial killer, or you're a child I don't know mature
is print? Or you're my niece Polly who's four exactly, Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Why are like twelve, thirteen, sixteen year olds not signing
their name? Like to me, I thought that was just
something that you grow up kind of learning, and that
really shook.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Me to my They don't teach cursive it, I don't
think they. Okay, they for a while.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, I'm looking it up. It says twenty ten.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know if it's banned, but like it got
it stopped because of common Core, which I don't know
what that is.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So don't even like math, I think, right, So what
is math? I think, but it might be it might
be for the reaching and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, it's common core something and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Me too, and they're not teaching kids cursive, which bothers
me because like I have a child who's almost two,
and I'm like starting to like look at schools.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I know, I'm a little I'm crazy whatever, but I
want her.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To go to a school where, honestly a caveman's school
this point, like I want her to use her hands
and figure things out. I don't want iPads, and I
truly like parents don't have me, don't don't don't fight me.
I don't want to give my kid an iPad unless
like we absolutely have to. You know, I'm talking about
like the long plane rides, all of that car rides,
like long car rides. I'll do that, but I'm not
just gonna give it to her like on a Tuesday
afternoon when she's two years old, just because like.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't get school looking at Harvard online, Well we've.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Gone to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You guys want my kids a genius because yeah, my
kid is like really smart for almost two. Like I'm sorry,
I'm a big flex on you. It's like if my
kids smart, well.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Remember during the draft recently, I think that there was
a young kid who didn't know how to sign his
like NFL contract, like you know where literally just says,
I sign your name here. And I think he was
had to ask for help because he's a never signed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
A contract before. But b they don't like know what
to do, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I feel like basic life skills, like I don't know
how to boil an eggtels like twenty five years old.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I admit that right then, a basic lis.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think I should be the boiling.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Egg, like I really learned that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He yes that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, now, I'm sure all the technology we cauld boil eggs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Laid it probably does.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But like my whole point is like I just want
my kid to like use I don't know, like her
brain and critical thinking skills and like learn how to
write her name or at least sign her name when
she's twenty years old going to.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Harvard, Like I want her to be able to sign
her name. Well, people over here, you know, we learned.
I think I brought this up before and you guys
didn't know what I was talking about. But I'm not
that much older than you guys. But we had print.
Of course, we learned how to write in print, and
then we had Danelion, which was which was one step between.
I looked up with there one night and in New Orleans.
(04:01):
She was incredible. No, I worked with her at at Lebert. No. No,
it was a mixed but it was like the step
between print and cursive. It was like print, but it
had like the little endings on it. And then you
went from Danelion to cursive because you like, basically you
learn how to write each cursive word in cursive without
(04:21):
connecting them. That was Danelion, and then and then you
had But here's the thing. The very second that somebody
stopped poleasing cursive, I started writing in print, and I
write like an architect. But the problem is it takes
me a very long time to write something. I bet.
I wish that I had sort of paid more to
I don't know, kept up captured my cursive because like,
(04:44):
it's so much faster to write in cursive than this
then print, and I write in print, and so I
wish I didn't. But common Core are the learning standards,
not just now I remember them. However, whatever that is
no cursive Montssori school, someone said could send them there.
Some Catholic schools still teach it, I guess. I'm sure
they teach a lot of things. Yeah, I don't know.
(05:09):
I don't know. You're right though they don't. I don't
think it's a common thing anymore. And I think it's
because where they assume that people just don't have to
write anything anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I know we live in a very digital world, but
I think again, like, boil an egg, write in cursive
two things that we just got to teach our kids.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I'm gonna start now.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gigi's gonna learn how to write her autographs.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And make my eggs, make mommy her eggs age too.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, no, I get it. I get Mommy a beer.
And that you're more upset about the egg thing.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I am, because I'm like worry, like why I don't
know how to boil the egg specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But like how long are you supposed to boil it?
Like I didn't know, I had to look at but
like you could probably boil it too much. Oh yeah,
I'm sure you can't. Honestly, if you gave me a
pot of water and a bunch of eggs, I don't
I could probably figure it out, but it would take
it like a little trial and error, and who.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Knew about the ice path after?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And then to get the shells off easier? This is
not people are just bring with this, Kiki, come with
it with the original program, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Jame, it's brown on the phone right now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I got a little like a little machine for it now.
And what do I need that for?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You need to know, bro, what if the machine is broken?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Then I guess it's I don't. I didn't realize deviled
eggs were such a staple of survival. Well, I don't
have to mail. I gotta make that too. Yeah, this
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Court Rise the Honorable Ow Kiklik is here, you're or
(07:00):
take it away? Please?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
All right, let's get into the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says Kiki. Am I wrong for ruining
Christmas because I won't travel with a newborn. I gave
birth six weeks ago after a rough delivery. I'm still
healing and have two other kids, five and three. My
mother in law insists that everyone travels six hours to
(07:21):
her house for Christmas every year, and we've taken the
drive year after year.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
However, this year I.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Said no because I'm dragging a new I don't want
to drag a newborn and two small kids across state
lines during the flow season. My husband backed me up
and offered that we do a family FaceTime call on
Christmas morning instead.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, my mother in law lost it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
She said I'm being lazy and dramatic and accused me
of using the baby to control her son. Then she
sent a family group text saying Christmas was basically canceled
because some people refuse to make sacrifices. Now half of
the family is mad at me and telling me just
to deal with it for one day, and my mother
in law says I stole her Christmas and her grandkids.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Am I wrong? I mean I have a lot of
thoughts with Kiki, true.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And you know, as the childless aunt, I want to
give grace to the mother in law who probably looks
forward to making memories with her grandkids every year, Like
every holiday, I look forward to being around my nephews.
I look forward to it. I'm so excited I want
to give I want to give grace to the mother
in law, right. But after that, what you have to
(08:32):
learn as an adult is that people are allowed to
set boundaries and make decisions for their families, and postpartum
is real. And if she doesn't feel like attending this year,
give her this year. Hopefully she doesn't make this a
new tradition where you never see your grandkids because you
threw a fit. So it's just like, I understand the
frustration of the grandparents, and you know, traditions are being
(08:54):
you know broken in their opinion, But this lady is
going through postpartum. So if she doesn't want to attend
this year, give her that. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I mean, in the mom in the room, I assume
you have no dispute there.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I can't think of one. And if she if she
never wants to go back to see her mother in law.
I also wouldn't be mad at that either, like truly, no,
not in a bad way, but like she's got three kids,
she got to drag around Like I'm barely getting around
with one kid right in my little Nissan.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like it's a lot of work to get around town
with the kid. So now pack up three kids, go
across state lines. No, and like, yes, she's six weeks postpartum,
she's in a diaper. Like it's a lot. I'm serious,
it's a lot going on in her world.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And she does not have to please anybody truly ever ever,
but like especially for the holiday season and Christmas, and
if mother in law feels like she wants to see
grandkids and do these memories, like maybe they could work
something out or mother in law comes over or something.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Maybe that's a big maybe. I don't, I don't know
the situation.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Right, they want to talk about how your house not clean?
That's a big minute. She sounds the kind of woman
who would do that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, shoudn't sound great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, eight, one, three, five, You guys at the Jerry,
I'm sure people have something to say about this. I mean,
my mom, if she were listening, she would say, my
nieces are three and five, and it's like she wants
my sister to load them up and bring them to
and my sister does it a couple of times a year.
I know it's a lot of work. Granted, my mom
did it with us, so it's one of those things
where it's like, you know, grandmas want to see their grandkids,
(10:19):
and my mom does travel to Dallas and awful lot
to see them, so it's not like she doesn't pull
her weight. My sister would tell you, well, it's a
lot of work to bring these kids around. Well, yeah,
I mean, but it's also part of being a family.
The thing for me is, first of all, this is
the third kid under five, was it. Yes. The second
thing is really the proximity to birth. Like, look, we're
(10:40):
talking about six weeks an infant were newborn. I mean,
that's totally unreasonable to ask. Maybe in a year or two,
but I don't know why isn't mother in law jumping
to gold to where they are.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well, she might have offered that, but I don't think
that this daughter in law once are there either, because
think about it, if I'm in a diaper. It's probably
miss saying I'm going through postpartum, my head, little kids.
I don't necessarily want to host my in laws either, right,
I just want a year off to get my mind right,
get my body right, and raise these kids, and then
maybe we can pick up the tradition next year.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
If mother in law's thrown out a bunch of scenarios
that require very little from new mom, then I might say, Okay,
is there no compromise here, you know, if she's if
she's saying, I'll fly to you, I'll stay in a hotel,
I'll stay out of your way. I just want to
see my grandkids on Christmas or near Christmas or whatever,
and she's saying, no, no, no. The problem is, I
think sometimes the personalities of these very eager mom grandmothers
(11:37):
can be off putting in itself. You know, it can
come off very aggressive when they have the best in
Like my mom. I love her to death, she has
the absolute best intention, but she pushes, and you know,
she and my sister are the same woman in many ways.
So it's like you're pushing you and you wouldn't like
to be you know what I mean. So it's like
you're getting a nobe to set boundaries. But I know
(11:59):
you and you see that as rejection, but yet you
have the best intention. You just want to be a
part of their lives. I get all of that for me,
though it's six weeks ago you had a baby. No,
they're not going to travel to you. No. No.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I would love to hear from the thirteen because I
struggled with this being the only girl in my family.
I don't have kids.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
My brothers have the kids.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But I feel like you're so used to your family tradition,
like we always get together on this day. How dare
you have to go to your other in law? You know,
like I don't want to share you. I don't want
to share the family. So it's hard, but you have
to just be okay with it because people are allowed
to set boundaries.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah. Well, and you know that there was if you've
been listening for a little while years ago, there was
a it was a rough transition in our house and
my sister said, we're not coming for Christmas anymore or
Thanksgiving because we want to have our own traditions in
our own home. And that was hard, and it wasn't
because she was wrong. It was hard because our family
is very close, that we're used to doing things a
(12:55):
certain way for a long time, and that included when
we were young and our grandparents and the whole thing.
So we're breaking a multi generational tradition of being together
on Christmas and as and people have said, why don't
you go to Dallas? I wouldn't say we were invited, Like, honestly,
I don't. I don't think that's I don't think that's
even an option because and I think I don't think
(13:16):
it's a lack of love. I think I think she's
drawing a firm boundary. Now, is that a boundary that
I would draw that firmly? No, I would give a
little more than my sister is, because she is getting
a lot too, you know what I mean. But like
because I just get on a plane and go there
and stay in a hotel, It's like, I'm not entirely
sure we were included. So so you know, I think
(13:40):
I do think there's give and take. I think I
think sometimes, you know, the burden is on the parents
to provide opportunities for the grandparents, and then the grandparents.
I think sometimes I have to show grace to the
kids when you know it, but yeah, it's it's a
very hard thing. Family. Family can become very complicated, even
when there's a lot of love. Hey, Dominique, Hi, Hi,
(14:02):
so you have a new born. Congratulations by the.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Way, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And so you hear this scenario where you've got a
and I wonder if the mother in law because you
hear mother in law and then you automatically like feel
this disconnect, right, but not necessarily that. But here's this woman,
she really wants everyone together on Christmas, and her daughter
in law who just had a baby six weeks ago, saying,
nah is it We're not doing this, and she has
two other kids under five, like, I can't do it
(14:27):
right now, and there's some tension there.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
What do you think, Yeah, I have a three month old,
I have a three year old. And if the first
six months are so hard, especially around like flue season,
RSV season, and the holiday season on top of that,
the mom and her family should be at home with
her kids, her young ones. This is like primetime Stanta
time for them. They should be waking up on Christmas
(14:53):
morning in their home in their pajamas with their family
and Grandma is now in law or on the mom's
side are now extended family, So it's about the family
that you made, not the family you came from. Now
they need to be prioritized. So Grandma needs to go
to them and at least like be the community that
she probably claims that she is, because it takes a
(15:15):
lot of take a tribe to raise kids, especially during
the fluid holiday season.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I agree with at minimum. At minimum, what she's
pitching should be things that are easy on the MoMA.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And that's so real to say when you say you
know you are the family.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
What did you say, the extended family? Send family? Yeah, hard,
but it's true.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
You know true, and my parents too. My my family
comes over to my house because it's about the grandkids now,
it's not about anybody else. Yeah, Eason with Christmas and
Santa and then a new baby come out? Yeah what
about mom and baby and the family?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Traditions need to change. I think the harder you push,
the less likely you are to be included in those traditions,
and that can be hard to Dominique, Thank you so
much and congratulations again, have a good day.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You guys too, Glad you called. Hey Kimmy, good morning.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Do it next year.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Kimmy. Hey, Kimmy, Kimmy, I tell Kimmy, Kimmy, I just
I just picked up the phone. I don't know what
you were saying. You gotta you gotta start over.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Oh I'm sorry. Okay, Well, what I'm saying is that
this lady's in the right. I just popped out a kid.
I got two other toddlers. There ain't no way I
am going six hours with a newborn to Christmas. I
am going to tell my mother in law. I'm sorry,
(16:37):
but we're doing this next year. You all go ahead,
everybody else, go ahead, do it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm not offended.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Please by all means, go ahead. I'll wait till next year,
and I'll see you all next year.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Let's face time. Yeah, yes, Kimmy, thank you so much.
I'm really glad you called. No, that's what it is.
It's again six weeks ago. That's uh. So we have Kimmy.
Now we have kim Hi, kim How you doing? I'm well,
how are you doing? Great? Kiki's court? What say you?
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I when I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
When I heard this, this immediately really frustrated me because
I have a not technically newborn vibe of micro premi.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
He was born at twenty five weeks.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
He was born, you know, back in May, and even
though you know he's still he's like almost seven months,
like it's still newborn kind of status, and any little.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Cold could send him to the hospital.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
So the fact that there's this judgment for you know,
wanting to keep her, the mom safe.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
The baby safe, is just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
How's your son doing, by the way.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
He's really good. He's done a little bit of oxygen,
but you know, he's doing really good.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
But we have to be so careful, like they can't
bring him around to anybody sick.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
So yeah, I just I fight for the mom in
this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, always, Yeah, Well, Kim, thank you, have a good day,
good holiday as well, you too.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Love you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I love you too. Thanks for listening. Appreciate it. Jackie, Hello,
Hi Jaggie. What's your take? You're the jury, So no,
I don't think that.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
She's wrong at all. I had a similar situation. I
had my daughter's July second and then my system off
wedding was the fifteenth of July, and she wanted me
to go with my daughter and I told her no
because I just had her, you know, and same thing.
You know, I would be in a dress, the wearing diaper,
(18:28):
so healing, and she was bad and she thought that
I was using that as an excuse not to go
through her wedding. So I sided with the mom here.
She's not wrong at all whatsoever. Especially the nurse even
told us, like before we left the hospital, she's like,
make sure that the baby doesn't go out because she's say,
feed it. A lot of times where you know, parents
(18:50):
want to take the baby everywhere, ends up sick, that
ends up back in the hospital, and especially with ours
b being so like serious, you know, her babies do
end up oxygen you know, that can pass away from that.
I agree with her on her at whole, you know,
because that's very important as well as a mom to
heal and not you know, like start doing stuff too
(19:14):
early because then you know you're going to have all
these those here.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, thank you guys im here yeah,
g'd you called. Have a good day. This is a
good point on the text, by the way, And I
was thinking about this the other day too. I think
we give too much weight to the actual date of
the holiday. Why does it have to be twelve twenty five,
get together in January. The kids don't care. My family
(19:37):
celebrated Christmas as early as the first week of December.
If that's when extended family could get together, I guess,
I guess there's it's kind of a mental thing. Everyone
else is together on this day, doing this thing, right,
posting their pictures on Instagra exactly. So, but I mean,
you know, I like, yesterday I was at the airport.
I see the airline pilots get on this thing. I'm like,
you know a lot of these guys are gonna have
(19:57):
to work on Christmas, Christmas Eve. I'm sure that they
have kids. And it's like, well, we'll just do it
when I get back, or we'll do it the day
before or for your friends, right right, Because you're as
responder exactly, He's not a hobby's a firefighter. I'm on
the radio. You're my first so clear, this isn't off
on Christmas.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
The Paulina so the first person I call when I
need something.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
So, you know, fire in the house, Paulina. You know
I'm choking on something. Paulina. Hey Teresa, Hey, Hi Teresa,
So Kicki's court. Basically, we have a situation where a
mother in law wants her daughter in law and her
grandkids at Christmas, but she just gave birth six weeks
ago and she's saying no, and she's getting guilted for that.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
I think she has ever right to say no. I
gave birth my daughter, who's going to be eighteen December
twenty first had to get released from the hospital early
because both sides of my family still expected me to host,
and I did. Wow, this mom should be empowered and
stay home.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah. Wow, I think my mom would tell you the
same thing. She hosted. Thanks. I mean, I think she
had me the next day, but she didn't know I was.
I was early. But yeah, I think that the expectation
was or maybe it was maybe it was it. I
don't remember one of the case. Maybe people have expectations
and oh wow crazy, that is nuts. And now it's
weird that you still won't let them come eighteen years later,
but that's that's a whole different thing. You definitely won't
(21:21):
let them come. So there it is.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
My mother love hosts now and she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
There you go, Theresa, Thank you, have a good day,
Mary Christmas. I don't think there's I'm looking at all
these texts. There's not one counter take here. There's not
one person going.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Well, I was looking for a boomer that would like
stand on business again.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Where's my mom? She's in a sleep still. She'll text
in and she'll think it's me, but it's to everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah I did it, but maybe I'm a met.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I promise you, whenever the moment this is heard in Arizona,
which is gonna be somewhere three or four hours from now,
I'm going to get a call. But you know I'm awesome.
I'm gonna everybody, thanks kidding you streaming and your sister.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I hear a come fress mom again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She may have even hurt in her sleep. She gonna
wake up now, so
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.