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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello is Jason from The Fred Show and I'm here.
I can't believe about to say this. I'm talking to
Ellien AJ.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Oh my gosh, I am so excited to talk to
you guys. So I met you for the first time
at Lollapalooza when you guys played. Yes, you guys, you
stopped at our time. You were so nice, you took
pictures with all this staff. I was like, oh my god,
they're the best. And I was like freaking out out
of all like the people that came by then. I
was like, no, Ellien and a j are performing like
I need. And I saw a little bit of your set.
It was amazing. How was that experience? Because no, no, no,

(00:30):
how was laala No?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was like so special.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It was one of our top favorite moments we've experienced
as a band because.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
It was also the first festival back, you know, coming
out of like the height of COVID and we opened
the main stage. It was like the energy that turnout
like it was. It felt so good and we were
just kind of getting into our touch of the beat face.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
So yeah, that music was fresh. We never played a festival.
That was first festival.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh my gosh, we know that.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, and we love Chicago. We want to play Laala again.
You want hopefully we come back and you need.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
To Yes, I'm going to tell my little insiders. I'm like,
oh my god, that's what everyone says, like all the
artists we talked to her, Like, the energy at LOLLA is.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Just very it's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, the kids go crazy and you have a lot
of Chicago ties. So I want to talk about that
because you have like little sprinkles every now that you
just celebrated twenty years of Into the Rush, right, insane.
How does that feel that it's been twenty years ago?
Like were you guys? Does it feel like twenty years
those twenty years for.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Me feel like it for us either?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Like wild we ended up deciding that we were going
to record, you know, a live version from the back
of the record here in Chicago. Yeah, in Chicago, and
we were like, Okay, this is what we're doing it
and it was just such a fun experience to play
those songs this many years later with the band. You know,
some of those songs hadn't been touched in nineteen years,
eighteen years, yeah, twenty years, you.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Know, depending on songs where we hadn't even really played
live before, or if we had played them, it was
like a couple of times. Yeah, so so it was.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
We were actually nervous for that show in a way
that were not normally nervous for most concerts.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
To answer your question about like twenty years, it makes
no sense to us.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, it makes no sense to me either.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Insomniatic wal turn twenty in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh okay, So I'm thinking there my views something specially.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Have we got to play another Chicago live show?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, that should just be the thing, and then you
should just invite me to all of them, and yes,
I need to be there to witness them all. Take
me back to when that first album the first time
around was sort of like exploding, Like what was that
time like for you guys? Do you remember just I
remember hearing it all over the radio, like I was obsessed?
What was that like this time around versus now where
you guys get to play it again and kind of

(02:44):
do what you want with the songs and change up
things and and all that stuff. Take me back to
like back then when it was first popping off, Like
how what was that feeling?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Like? I think we were. We were just really living
in the moment because we were kids writing these songs
in our best rooms to then all of a sudden
getting signed and having a band put together and playing
these songs live for an audience, and you know, doing
these like mall tours and signing autographs for people that

(03:12):
were waiting in line for hours.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean, it was just it was really records, like
all these spots that don't really.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Exist, the lost arts, like tours.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Like the CDs were still just on the end, but
like still a thing. Yeah, and a lot of those
same fans that came to those early early shows are
still listening to the music now, which is a cool
like three sixties.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, Like you literally like spent that I know, like
I followed you guys since that first album, and every
time you let out something new, I'm like, oh my god,
there's a new album, like let me and I love
your vibe now and I want to get into that.
But it's so cool how like we've you've kind of
like had these milestones of people's lives, right like your album,
but also like being able to go back and relive
you know, that first album in the second album and

(03:55):
all those amazing songs is so special. How was it
sort of crafting the live show and the live version
of all these songs and deciding what you want to
you know, tweak or change or the vibe you wanted
to take, Like what what was the thought process going
to that?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
We decided to stay pretty true to the record. It
is a bit more of a broken down feel live.
For some reason, the record just turned out to be
a little more pretty simplistic. Yeah, the original record is
much more produced than obviously the live version. But in
terms of like format and figuring out the set list,
like it's the order of the record, Yeah, we didn't
really change anything when it came to like format.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You know, we cut a couple of inches, maybe like
it's a little redundant or like the ending there's maybe
too many repeat courses that stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, but for the most part, we were like, let's
just be really true to what we put out twenty
years ago and do it in a live space and
anything it turned out great.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Instead of doing like a studio version. What made you
guys decided like let's do it live? Well.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think part of it was that we we feel
that such a big part of the band now is
our live show. Yeah, and we just love being out
on the road. We love the camaraderie with our band
and crew. We love the stories that we hear from
the bands that we meet, and the cities that we're
always looking forward to coming back to, the restaurant that
we stay at, the hotel, the bar that we go to.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
So I think for.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Us, it was kind of a tie in to just
come back to the importance of live music and supporting
live music and really championing.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
That and keeping these kind of also maybe smaller venues
or theaters like still going hopefully being a part of home.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Sure, yeah, no, I mean, and that's that's really awesome too.
And I love when we used to do a concert
series where we brought like, you know, larger artists into
smaller venues again and let them play and they would
like love it because it's like taking you back. But
it's also so intimate and cool, and I don't know,
there's just a different vibe than like, yeah, arena shows
are cool and production is cool. But yeah, for sure,

(05:43):
I want to talk about Silver Deliverer for a second, right,
which I love it. I love the album and it's
but it's a hard title for me to say, so, well,
they're gonna say that one. It's okay, But I love
the vibe and I put your music your like, you know,
probably last couple albums on, but that album specifically when

(06:04):
I'm driving, because I just feel like it's such a
good vibe driving record. But it's there's little like tinges
of country. There's like sort of like really cool like
vibe rock stuff on it too, Like when you guys
are crafting your sound now that has been such an
evolution from you know, into the rush of the first
time around, Like what made you guys sort of take

(06:25):
that lane of that sort of I don't know, vibe
of just you don't know, like it's kind of hippie
but not like you know, like not bad way, but
just kind of like viby hip, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, No, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I think Ali and I have always, especially when we're
touring back to like our live shows, the show tends
to just have a bit more of like a rock
edge than usually the production, and so we were like,
let's bring that into this new record. Like even the
songs we were writing, the musicians we were working with
just just wanting to kind of step out a little
further in that space, being that Ali and I kind

(06:56):
of started in a rock space, but it was more
acoustic singer songwriter and very like sweet and and fun
to play, but also like now I want like a
little bit of edge and grit to the live show,
and that that already kind of comes into play with
our live music.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
So we're like, why not make a record that really
fulfills that?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, and it does. It's and I take my driving
time like very seriously, because like my driving time is
like when I'm alone in the car and like, no,
I can't. I try not to answer my phone or
in the morning, actually leave it on, do not disturb
all the way down to the city. Like but like
I there, I like pick out what when I wake up,
I like, Okay, what vibe mine? What album I gonna
listen to?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And I usually listen to music in the car. Yeah, say,
and maybe the only other instance would be like I'm
listening to it a vinyl at home, Yes, my husband
puts on or we're cooking or something, but like, really,
most of the music that I listened to is in
my car, So I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, it's just I don't know. It's like an experience
where like I just feel unplugged for a minute. And
like so when I tell you that, like you're one
of my driving albums, like that is a big deal
because oh my god, So I have silver delivered as
I have that song on repeat. Okay, that one is
like and that one got it's like all of my
favorite places. It's like as soon as like whatever, but

(08:04):
I have to I have pulled it up here because
iknew you're going to ask me that question, and I
was like, which one do I pick? Uh, take your time,
but also Michael Michael too. But it's just like I
don't know, like you just gave me like the best idea.
I got chills when you said it because I'm a
huge vinyl person. But I need it on vinyl. I
need to buy it. I don't have it on vinyl.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
The shop, yes, and we have a special release that
is through Urban Outfitters too, if you want.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
There's something I'm so old, like I love going to
store and just buying.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
If we're going to visit a vinyl shop today before.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, which one are you guys going to sugar?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, so that a reckless. But yeah, that's a great yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, but you guys are coming back soon because you're
about to tour Silver Deliverer Tour October tenth. Yes, okay,
so what is the vibe going to be for this tour?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Let us know, we've got a killer band. It's going
to be a really packed set list. I mean we're
a plan of course, everything from the new album and
then quite a few songs from Into the Rush.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And you know, usually when.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
We bring out you know, the songs on and get
them on their feet on the road, we don't play
that many.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
From the past.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
We play like a couple because of course, I know
people are there to you know, hear some of the
new music, but they want to hear a couple of
the their favorites from the past. Yeah, but we figured
that this time around, given that it's twenty years, we
got to honor some of those songs, playing more.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Than we usually do in our set. Cool, which will
be really special.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
And it's just such a beauty like visually, I mean sonically, Yeah,
that's like first and foremost, and that it always with
the design we make is really special.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
That the design is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
And you're playing this saltshed here, which is like such
a cool venue. So I can't wait to come see
you guys. I'm so excited. And of course you have
to do a potential breakup song, right it is onset.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think we'll ever be able to not play a
show without playing it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I still like scream singing that song.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's kind of a new version of it.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
We still go off and scream by wall, but it
starts a little slow.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
And oh okay, we love a build. I love it.
We love a crescendo exact right. Oh my god, look
at me. Okay, So you can get tickets now for
their show October tenth at the Salt Shot Vipe.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
We got a really cool VIP activation going on the
show that's also a throwbacked into the Rush. Take a
picture with us. We'll have the music playing. It's very white,
all the original.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Costumes from the Rush music video. Yeah, it's really well
thought out. We tried. We were like, how can we
make this special?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We don't want this to be the same thing every time,
so we really we really got in there and like, yeah,
we got into the alleen Aage vault.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh my god, we literally did.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I just feel so healed because I feel like I've
come full circle from like when you guys first let
out the album and now twenty years later, you're like
recording it and you let out the live version and
now you're like embracing it, but you have all this
other cool music that you're letting out now too.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
That's your own, Like, oh my heals too, Like this
is our childhood as well. And Get Back Up is
like really beautiful because it was a very pure way
to start in this industry, Like Ali and I wrote
these songs in our rooms and then got signed and
these ended up on a record that is living on
twenty years later.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And I think the really special part about this all
is that we've maintained that sisterhood and that friendship throughout
all of these years, and that has never changed. And
even when we kind of walked away from music for
a while and we're focusing on our acting careers, you know,
we were obviously still incredibly close, and the music pulled

(11:23):
us back to where we've always meant to be, like
on a stage, playing for our fans, sharing these stories
with them, and I just feel like we are so
lucky that we got this kind of second chance to
come back and make music as adult women.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, and people are loving it and your fans are
eating it up. And I could tell just someone being
you know, the third or fourth person in the room.
Guys just genuinely like each other, which is great work together.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, if you could go back and sort of tell
the little young Allie and aj anything like when you
guys were writing those songs and you on your guitars
in your room and now knowing your life now, what
would you want your younger selves to know? And I
know that's deep, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, I would encourage us to not stop touring
because we stopped touring for a minute and a large chunk,
a large chunk like actually a large part of our twenties.
Really we were boring, which is wild because I feel
like that is something that brings us so much joy
and it feels like a home away from home for us,

(12:31):
I think because we started doing it at such a
young age. So I would I would just be like,
I stop touring, don't stop, don't take a break, keep
going out there, and even if you don't have new material,
you can still like do some covers or rework some
of the old material. I think we always felt like
we needed to have new music to then justify touring,
and that's not necessarily true.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
No, especially now everyone's doing like thro.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Year anniversaries right now. It's just hilarious.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So yeah, I think I think, I think I would
say that, and just to not be discouraged by by
people questioning our ability as women in this space, you know,
and the fact that we were writing this music as
young as young girls and it was connecting with people,

(13:19):
and you know, whether people understood that connection or understood
you know, the lyrics or the meaning behind that that
was really for the fans to know and not for
necessarily like the industry.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Right peeps.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, And one thing I will say, because as a fan,
but what I love about artists and I think isn't
a testament to like how you were able to, you know,
take a little time off, do what you wanted to do,
do other ventures, do whatever, and then come back and
still kill it. Like that just means that like what
you're doing is authentic, right, because if it wasn't, it
wouldn't withstand the test of time and people wouldn't be
as like craving for your new stuff and love your

(13:58):
new stuff. So like just know that like that from
one fan, that that's you know why it makes Yeah,
it also makes us want to just like raise you
up right and make sure that you know what you
guys do is success and come to the shows and
buy all the things and do all that stuff because
like you can tell you love what you're doing and
that it's authentic and you guys are like being you
and I think that's what's so amazing. So we have

(14:20):
the tour kicking off. We have the album Silver Deliverer,
we have the twenty Years into the Rush October tenth
Assault shed get your tickets now. Also, I need to
check out that VIP ticket as we My mama might
be squaring and doing an upgrade. We'll see what happens.
Let's get anything else went on the rest of the
year early twenty twenty six. What do we have in store?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
No, we're just all about this tour.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I mean it's just like, let's just see how twenty
twenty five plays out.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I'm so excited to play these shows.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's seven weeks on the road, first time where we
have Ali's son out with us.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, I was just.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Going through like the list of what should I be
bringing out for him, Like, yeah, we play mat we
need like this toy, you know, should.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
You guys buss it or oh wow, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'll sleep in the bunk with me, okay, and then
you know, we'll have like a whole little set up
in the dressing room and yeah, I'll have the whole
bus to be able to hang out and chill in.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And this is the way start him now, right, Yeah
he started out.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, this is how you started to get By the
end of it, yeah, he's already like tweaking like guitar knobs.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Oh my, yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's going to be so cool to grow up. My
parents didn't know how to do anything musical.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
So cool, it'd be a cool way to grow up. Think, yeah,
like you.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Had no musical like influence it really well.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Our mom our mom is a singer, but not a
great session okay.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah yeah, and one day you're just like, wait, you
can sing, and they're like, wait, you can say, let's
do this together.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
She doesn't play an instrument, which you know, you don't
have to to be a singer or a songwriter.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
And our dad isn't musical and.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Wow, I'm an only child, so you think maybe I
would have got some of the any talent. But you know,
here we are. But it's you know, talent.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're on the radio.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm just fangirling over you for twenty minutes. That's what
that's takes skill, right.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, not to fangirl, but to actually do what you do.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You Oh stop, Allien aj Oh my gosh. Okay, thank
you guys so much for coming by. You guys are
so amazing and I am a huge fan. I'm going
to see you at the Salt Chad and I'm starting
a petition to have you bechel. Okay, all right, we're
manifest that awesome. Thank you, Ellien H.

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