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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fred Show. This is what's Monday?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Monday, so it I mean, it could be
Wednesday in my brain. Who knows it's Monday. It's that
kind of thing anyway, Sorry if I confused anyone. No
one else said anything, So either no one else is listening,
including everybody in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm not sure, but Paulina, Yeah, it's your favorite week
of the year, your favorite what does that version of it?
I didn't want that. I didn't want this this. I
want your favorite week of the year.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
The DNA, The d n C is coming to Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're right, it certainly is already.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I know they are.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, what are you most looking forward to about the
d n C this week?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I like to hear Joe Jonas's political stance, to see
where he stands, who he's endorsing.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, yeah, well, I'm assuming you'd be speaking at the
d n C.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Already.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think we're straight on that pretty sure, Jadie Vance.
But I mean, I don't know, it could be that
would be really shocking. Joe Biden, our president from our
first lady, Joe Biden and then former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson all speaking tonight
at the d n C.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Not Dog because he's at the d n C.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
N C.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah, Jason's morning was like, no, baby, it's.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
D n C.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So just just the d n C for a whole
week would be probably more entertaining. But but I'm not
sure the d n C. Is it all week or
is it just the first part of Thursday? Okay, and
if you live in Chicago, we were just talking off
theory about this, but like, I mean, they've basically put
a big cage over part most of the two parts
(01:47):
of the city, just a gigantic like bird cage over
the top of several buildings and don't even try and
get close, and like big concrete barricades and this serious business.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We got really important people in town this week, so
let's make it as inconvenient as possible for the people
who live down there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That was not the week to do something crazy like
oh well, how about ever doing anything?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, how about no crime at all?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I like that idea.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We have a company, yeah, right right now, it's not
the time, Okay, it's the d n C.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
This is just I just got weird stories this morning.
But in what's trending? Drinking and this is terrible news.
But for those of us, I have a gigantic cup
of coffee right here next to me, Duncan coffee. Drinking
four more cups of coffee a day can raise the
risk of a heart attack or stroke. So research has
found that consuming over four hundred milligrams of caffeine. Can
someone look up how many cups or like, I'm trying
(02:44):
to figure out four hundred milligrams? Like, how many is this?
Four hundred milligrams? This has gotta be. This has got
to be at least two cups of coffee.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
What coups is four hundred millilter?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh MiGs, my bad milligrams as we were looking for
basically rude coffee. Oh okay, but I don't know, so
I'm probably drinking that. But four hundred milligrams of caffeine
on most days of the week could increase the susceptibility
of otherwise healthy people to cardiovascular disease. Chronic caffeine consumption, Hello,
most all of us up this early was shown to
(03:16):
significantly impact them nervous system, raising heart rate and blood
pressure over time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yes, yeah, you have an extra large coffee. I do.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's thirty and thirty milligrams. Goodbye caffeine. Yeah, that's nice tom.
Oh and this is just an appetizer. I'm just warming
up right here. Oh yeah, is warming up all day?
You don't drink coffee?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yes? I always have my little ice coffee right here.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How many of those do you drink a day, Kiki?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
One?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's probably not four hundred millions, not for all lice.
Coffee is one hundred and ninety eight milligle chest.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's close for me.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, Shelley's the one that eats like wheat, grass and uh,
you know, sticks and stuff. Any caffeine for you.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I'll sometimes have a cup of coffee on the weekend.
But I you know, I did morning radio for all
those years. I never drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
See that's what I was about to say, like heart attack,
stroke or walking around like a zombie your whole life?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Like, what would you prefer for me?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I picked the latter.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, really not, rather not. I don't. I can't.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I can't watch around like a zombie for years.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think a slam Well saying, but I don't know
what kind of zombie i'd be without the coffee, though,
I mean, it's gotta be something. So what do you
do for a pick me up?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Anything?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Not really, no, I mean I'm trying to think, like
my thing is, you know, like if I like splurge,
it's like on a gluten free jonnut.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Or something like that. Like that would be my little.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Spirit because I was always told that it was what
you put in the coffee that was going to hurt you,
not necessarily the coffee itself. And now you're saying that
the caffeine is you know, it could cause high blood pressure,
hypertension associated with the increased risk of coronary artery disease,
heart fail. Okay, it's all bad stuff. As I take
a sip in my coffee. Georgia Man is suing an
(04:57):
Atlanta hospital. This was everywhere last night, by the way,
after staff allegedly lost a nearly twenty eight square inch
piece of his skull and then build him for the
replacement when they couldn't find it. So I guess they
were doing a procedure. They took part of his skull
out to do it, lost it. They lost his head,
(05:17):
and they're like, I don't know, so they put something
else in there. Like patched it up and then they
sent him a bill for them. So, this dude's name
is Fernando. He checked into Emory Hospital in September for
a hemorrhage in his brain a brain bleed. Doctors determined
a four point seven by six inch piece of his
skull had to be removed to reduce pressure, but after
returning to the hospital two months later to have the
(05:38):
piece of skull replaced, the hospital couldn't find it. Ooh
so sorry about that. So's a hole in his head
and nothing to fill with it. He had a large
depression of the right side of his school and the
surgery was canceled. The hospital had to find a synthetic
piece of skull and then they build him nineteen thousand
dollars for that what so Yeah, anyway, he's not happy
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and he's suing one hundred and forty six thousand dollars.
They lost part of his head and I went the
hospital to pay him back for that. I think so too.
Another health story. I don't know what's up with the
health stories today, but a Florida doctor is facing disciplinary
action after he performed a colonoscopy on a patient without
his hearing aid so I guess. During the procedure, the
doctor started inserting the scope before the patient was fully sedated.
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The patient started screaming in pain, but the doctor couldn't
hear him because he didn't have his hearing aid in.
He kept doing this despite the screams until somebody else
walked in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Now he's being fine. Oh my god, I mean, don't
you still see that?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You still see that?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I don't know. And I thought it was kind
of a narrow thing that they stuck up there. I
didn't think it was a big thing that they used
for that.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I'm not sure. I never had one to make an
appointment today.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
In fact, I even think you had to be sedated
for it. I thought you, I mean, most people are,
but I thought you could be awake for that, right.
I don't know what I'm talking about, but that sounds terrible.
And I do have that nightmare that I would have
surgery someday I would be like that one percent of
people that were conscious but couldn't communicate, which is I mean,
how many different things can I put in your head
this early on a Wednesday. It's Monday, Monday. I'm just
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this wishful thing. I wish it were Wednesday. A former
NFL player I'm sure I'm not saying this guy's name right,
Gosder Cheriless, Cheeriless. He was arrested for allegedly causing a
disturbance and disorderly conduct on a flight. So a Delta
flight was destined for Dublin and had to be rerouted
to Boston. The former first round pick urinated on another passenger,
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causing the air crew to request state police assistance, and
then they went back to another airport. I don't even
know where this is. He was a Tampa Bay buccaneer
and detroit lyon. Okay, yeah, so they went back. They
arrested this guy. He was uncooperative and initially refused to
I guess to work with them, forcing troopers to escort
him off the plane and arrest him. He's scheduled to
(08:06):
be arraigned today in Boston. The other passengers to board
the cancel flight were rebooked onto a new flight on Saturday.
I don't know how messed up you got to be
to start peeing on people right right, like just right
out there and open. I don't know, And do you
want to know where the cities are with the rudest residence.
What would you think is number one? Yep, number one,
(08:26):
New York number one. I touch one thousand people about
the rudest people. Each person survey and answered twenty five
questions related to where they live, which areas of the
US they preferred, and what they believe made a city
or state desirable.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
New York is the rudest.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Washington and Chicago at three, which surprises me because there
are ruder places I think than Chicago, Los Angeles, Buffalo,
San Francisco, Boston, Baltimore, Detroit, and Philadelphia running out the
top ten rudest places.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wow, yeah, you're right with that. That really that hits you.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yes, I've lived in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
If are ruder, I would think of the three major
big cities, I would say, in order of rudeness, it
would go New York, La, Chicago, And I would think
there are places that come before Chicago and rudeness.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Can we get that Midwest hospitality.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Right with the nicest people on the planet.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We know about that, but I think so yeah, yeah,
I mean I don't think. I don't think we're even
close to New York though, so oh god, no, in Philadelphia,
I mean not the nicest folks. I mean no, just
so it's sports alone, right and they're not even the
number ten.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No, I don't. This is a messed up list.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's National Soft ice Cream Day, not soft serve soft
ice cream Day, okay, and National Aviation Day today as
well Showbiz in for Kail and the entertainment reports. Next,
what are you working on?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Uh so there's actually you know, the news cycle moves
very quickly. I have an update from a story to
the last hour, so I'll tell you about that. In
terms of Dakota Johnson, we have an updates.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Room in the newsroom on the Plus. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, nice job, Shelly. This is great. We're gonna be
okay all week. Two minutes away. I've ever been left
waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Sadie,
good morning, welcome to the program. How are you hey?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm good, all right, So a little perplexed, right right exactly.
We're trying to figure out that's honest. By the way,
over and over I keep saying it. People are like,
I'm so good. I'm like, how are you so good?
You got ghosted by somebody. Somebody on the earth is
trying to avoid you. With all their might, or at
least that's what we think. But Sadie, you're perplexed about
this guy Eric. We got to know everything. How did
(10:40):
you meet Eric? Tell us about any dates that you've
been on, and then what's happening now?
Speaker 8 (10:44):
I met Eric on Hinge and we.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Hit it off.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
We were chatting for a good while before we finally
met up for drinks. I had a great first date.
I felt like it was real, sparky and fun, and
I was really excited to see him again. Made plans
that same night to meet up again. I had a
second date. I had a second date, got dinner. It
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was a great time, and I was really excited to
keep this going. And I never heard from him again.
And I don't quite understand what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, so this isn't even a this isn't a one
date ghost. This is a two date ghost situation, which
is kind of you know, that's a little worse, right,
because the person obviously liked you enough to go on
a second day with you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So what happened? What happened to stop that momentum? Right?
Speaker 8 (11:32):
And we were even talking about what we were going
to do next, Like it was kind of assumed we
were going to see each other again. So yeah, I
don't know. I don't know what happened. I'd like to
find out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, so let's play a song. We'll come back in
like two minutes, and we're gonna call this guy Eric.
He'll be on the phone as always. We'll ask some
questions on your behalf. At some point you're welcome to
jumping on the call, and you know, the hope is
that we can straighten this out, set you guys up
on a third date in this case that we paid for.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So good eight, let's see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Parts to you of waiting at the phone after David
got in two minutes, do move. It's the Fred Show,
winter Bucks with show vis Shelley in the showdown new player.
If you can beat her in five questions, you start
Monday with a big grip of cash. Hey, Sadie, Yes,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Eric. This is the
guy you went out with a couple of times. You
thought the dates went great. You're trying to figure out
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why this guy's not calling you after two days that
you thought were successful.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Yeah, I want to see him again. You feel weird?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, let's see what's going on. Good luck, Sadie, Thank you? Hellhisus?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Eric?
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Oh yeah, this is Eric.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Hey Eric, good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm calling for the Fred Show, a morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Can which after just
a second on the air. Do you mind you can
hang up anytime?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (12:55):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, thank you so much. I look at this guy.
He seems almost excited. Right, we'll see if you're excited
in about thirty seconds. But we're calling on behalf of
a woman who reached out. It was her name is Sadie.
You went out with her twice on dates. You remember Sadie?
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah, I remember Sadie.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, So what happened because she called us and told
us that, you know, she'd met you and liked you,
and he went out a couple of times, two dates
it was, and you were planning a third date and
then you go missing, and she feels like she's being
ghosted by you, and she wants to know why.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
I mean, I guess it's fair that I wonder why
she why ghosted? I mean, so I mean I thought
it was going great. After the second date, right as
I was leaving, she gave me a present which I
didn't open until I got home. So I opened this
present and it's like a collection of harrow loss products.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Wait, this is on the second days they did this.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, it's like a goodie bag of like rogaine and
whatever else you used to do.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
Your own hair, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now is it like she works for these people or
something and she had the stuff us? Either way, what
she's saying to you is you need to grow some
hair somewhere.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
I mean, yeah, I don't. I mean, she doesn't work
for hair loss company. I mean it came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
She just felt like an insult.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That didn't a deal.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, who worked for Sharpie and she brought me
one color of every Sharpie that was ever? Yeah, she did.
This is a long time ago, and I was very
excited about it. Was a very nice saying that she
did for me. So maybe if I'm saying, you know,
if she worked for a dermatologist and she brought you skincare,
she worked for a dentist and she brought you a toothbrush,
like that's a very nice thing. But this is very personal.
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This is this is regardless of her, regardless of the background.
What she's saying to you, Eric is you're a bald
and I want you to have hair. That's what she's
saying to you.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
I mean, I mean, what if I just like gave
her like some teeth whitener or something or like, you know,
I don't know. I mean, that's just yeah, it was a.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Gift car for invisil line or something like.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Oh was a bad vibe.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Man, definitely in the date killer that would offend me
to let me bring Sadie in. Eric, I forgot to
mention that Sadie's here. I'm very very full. Yeah, my
bad Sadie Rogaine.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Why.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, obviously you're trying to send a message. I
know you are trying to be kind, but I mean
that's a very personal thing for a lot of people,
and insecurity.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Is that all?
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I am surprised. I thought that I broably started using
this stuff and he liked it, and I thought Eric
would like it as well.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Maybe Eric's okay with the weird Maybe Eric doesn't think
he needs more here. Maybe Eric is maybe he's already
doing this to be self conscious about it. I mean,
if I were going out with a girl and she
brought me some blue shoe, you know, that stuff that's
supposed to make you like, you know, oh you got
to have blue chor she brought me some of that
Spanish what do I call that? Yeah, you bring me
some Spanish fly over to the house. After a couple
of dates. I'm like, Okay, so what you're saying is
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my machinery's not you know, properly calibrated, and that would
I would probably make me insecure, Sadie.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You got to think I wasn't trying to insult him.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
He's really self deprecating about that. Like after our first date,
and so I just learned about the stuff that my
brother's been using, and he loved it. And I was like, oh,
well this is the thing that like he has an
issue with that he's bringing up. Then sure, here you go.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wasn't even got on you got it.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You have to turn the tables here when it comes
to when it comes to bodily stuff and aesthetics and
all of that. I mean said he what if he
brought you some sort of like a deodorant spray, you know.
I mean you you'd be modified.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Exactly, exactly exactly, like know, just as somebody admit after
kiss him. I mean, like what, okay, you know.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
Wants to look their best and men are like really
insecure about that, right, Yeah, a lot of guys super
insecure about losing their hair and you know how it looks.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
I mean, I'm not saying I'm all about insecure. I
just thought it was a bad move.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Excuse what I'm looking forward.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
He was just offended, he was offended or he thought
it was a weird gift or whatever your king, Sadie.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt,
I really do. I want to say that you were
being thoughtful, but you also have to know, like you've
got to turn the tables and know that when it
comes to people's appearance and and sort of related topics
like that, that requires a level of comfort and experience
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with that person to know that you're not going to
hurt their feelings. And it sounds to me like, whether
he's willing to amit it or not, you hurt his feelings.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I mean I can see that now. And maybe that
was a third date move, not a second right, But that's.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
A third day Kiki, that's a third day move.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You're never going to get a man like this.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You bring the toothless girl toothbrush on the third date.
You know you certainly don't do that on the never
on the first ever ever third date.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I mean, I mean to me, to me, that's like,
that's like conversation down the line. I mean, slide in
the conversation that your brother's taking it and then let
me suggest I'm interested. I mean, you know, just a
block footed move, man, I mean, not dating material. Like
what am I going to say?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean I hate, I hate to argue, to make
an argument by turning the tables like I tend to.
I don't know, but in this case, I think that's
what you got to do. He's turn the tables and say, Sadie,
how would you feel if he did that to you?
What if he brought you the exact same product? What
is he saying to you? He's saying you need more hair?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, you know, I mean.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
Maybe it's so far.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
I'm sorry, I hope it doesn't ruin any chance.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What if he brought you and so you think he
needs hair? What if he brought you razors in their
because he thinks you need less hair. That probably wouldn't
go over well, would it.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
I could see that, I could see that I could be
an issue.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Okay, Eric, So she meant well, but in this case,
she didn't read the room. I mean, can we give
her another chance? Or are we just moving on?
Speaker 9 (19:03):
You know what, there's a lot of fish in the sea,
and that's just a I don't know, it's not a
little trust that judgment, you know what I mean. I'm
looking for something serious and I don't know that that's
a disqualifier. Sorry about that, but that's just how.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is, all right, Sadie.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Look, I honestly believe that you probably had good intentions,
but let's just not let's not we're not with the
uh sort of bodily related products early on in a relationship.
I just think there's more room for that to go
poorly than there is for it to you know what
I mean, Yes, Rufio, are.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You going to use the product?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You don't need it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm gonna say, what do you need?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Hair?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What hair growth product? He's going to use it?
Speaker 9 (19:43):
I'm not going I mean, I'm just gonna go shave
heads at some point soon, but I mean whatever, Yeah,
I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm not trying to put he's not going to combat it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You know, he's our it's it's strange for Okay, it's
not going to work out, Sadie. I'm sorry, Eric, thank
you for answering and all the best both of you.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
You I do say the best. I mean, ultimately we're
on the same the same pool here, and you know,
sure she'll find somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, the positivity there, you know you're There's Eric saying, Sadie,
I hope you find a hairy guy soon.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
It's a nice ball hitting man, almost boll hitting many.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh lord, good luck, guys, thank you, thank you the
entertainment of for And she'll be Shelly with seven hundred's
actually Shelley with both.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Next Fred Show.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
A fresh show. It's Kiky's Court night, Key Key taking
away the honorable kik Aleik. Everyone all right, okay, suit
you ask this down, go ahead.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Sit down, let's get in this court room at that
gabble now it says, hey, ke Key, my name is Eric.
I'm a longtime Fred Show listener, and I know how
much you guys love to discuss tipping all.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Right, guilty, Eric, No, he loves the Fred will. Eric's right,
and so Eric's perfect. And let's see what's next. Well,
let's play well, Eric says.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
On Friday, I took my wife, kids, and my in
laws out to dinner downtown. We were seated after about
a twenty minute way, and from the moment that our
waitress approached the table, I knew we were in for
a ride. Her attitude was not friendly at all, and
she kept disappearing for long periods of time, and when
I asked for refiels for my kids, she seemed annoyed
(21:28):
and brought out a picture of lemonade for us to
pour ourselves. Then the worst part was that she forgot
to bring out my wife's food all together. When I
finally got up to look for her, she was sitting
at the bar laughing with her coworkers. So you can
imagine my frustration. When we finished our dinner and when
the bill came, I announced, out of frustration to my
family that she would not receive a tip. They already
(21:51):
include the service charge, and after the way we were treated,
I feel like that was more than enough. Well, when
we got up to leave, my father in law took
out cash from his wallet and left it on the table.
I was already annoyed, so I just walked out to
get in the car. But what really pissed me off
is that my father in law sent my wife a
nasty text message saying how disappointed he was that I
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did not tip.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I really want to confront him. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Hold on, I have a question before you give your verdict.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, how many people at the table?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So it was him, his two kids, and it's in laws,
so six.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So then the service charge would have been the tip.
Because what happens is with a lot of places, if
it's a party of six or more, then the gratuity
is just put onto the bill. They just put a
twenty percent gratuity on the bill.
Speaker 12 (22:39):
But see, some people say there's a difference between gratuity
and a service charge.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
The service charge goes to the restaurant, and right.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
The service charges because the restaurant doesn't want to pay
their employement dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, I thought, maybe maybe I'm using the wrong terms,
because I thought that it's a lot of menus will
say and maybe they use the word gratuity and that
service shape a lot of menus will say a twenty
percent cre tuity will be included on all parties of
six or more. I guess just to solve any sort
of you know whatever, like this is going to be
a lot of work, so the tip's paid for. So
I guess the way that I'm interpreting this is that
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the tip was already paid. It's just put on the bill.
And so if there's already twenty percent on the bill,
then you, in my opinion, you're going to have to
do something really wild for me to go over the
top of that. That's already a good tip. Now, if
you were really great, then I might tip more. But
if a twenty percent tip is included, and I was
going to tip twenty percent anyway, why am I tipping more? Well,
she's saying it was bad service, so on top of that,
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she got a twenty percent tip for not great service anyway, supposedly, I.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Don't think that was a tip. We just I got
a text from our residence server, Bella, and she said
the service charge is for the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But I might be okay, wow, wait a minute, so
then why okay? Well that I'm wondering if maybe they
got I don't know because.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Because every patron gets the service charge.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
You know, like, no matter what it is, it's a
service charge that goes to the restaurant because whatever to
pay this and that it's not the gratuity part that
goes to the employee pay for everything else.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Right, they say that the service charge goes to you know,
the waiter gets a portion, the dishwasher gets a portion.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, So.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
He Eric did not tip at all on top of
that because he felt like he did not get good service,
and his father in law decided to leave a tip anyway,
And then not only that, he sent a text to
his wife and was like, upset that your husband didn't
leave a tip. Okay, And I know you know we
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all tip, we all try to go above and beyond,
but in this case, I'm not giving her a tip either.
We cannot keep a rewarding bad behavior. I'm sorry you
were a horrible waitious today.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You did not do your best job.
Speaker 12 (24:48):
So why would I on top of a service charge
which maybe a little portion may go to you, But
why would I tip above that when you have given
me horrible service? I understand the father in law may
have felt differently, and he's entitled to do whatever he wants.
So I would not have been upset if my father
in law took out money out here.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's on you.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
If that's what you want to do, do your thing.
I'm not leaving a penny. But then to text my wife,
you know, to text my wife that you're so disappointed. Boy,
I mean, God, have some have some cahunas.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Like that to me?
Speaker 12 (25:18):
We were just together at the dinner table. If you
felt disappointed to tell me, don't text my wife sorry
because he brought the wife into it. Yeah, I'm with you, Eric,
I don't think he's wrong.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
I would be upset from the start after I announced
the table, like I ain't tipping nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
This was horrible. We didn't have a good time. It
was bad. I would be upset when the father.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
In law was like, I'm gonna leave something behind Anyone'm
like I told you we ain't tipping, Like we gotta
be on the same pain.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Forget the text message from the start. If you take
out money when I already said we ain't tipping, we
got a problem.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
What issould we have here is that the Texas seems
to be like some people believe that in a party
in a certain sized party that a service charge represents
that policy, the policy that if it's sicks more than
the tip is included. Other people say that it's not.
So my first thing would have been, Okay, hey, what
is this for? You know, I would have asked the question,
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like is this a tip? Because if there's a twenty
percent tip built in and the service sucked, then you're
lucky you got your twenty percent. I'm not giving you
anything more, right, But what I would say about bad
service is I would probably steal tip, but then I
just wouldn't go back. Oh you know what I mean,
Because it's like, by not tipping, you're also screwing the
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bar backs and the bartenders and the cook I don't
know if the cooks get tipped out, but you know,
the bus boys and girls or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So like you're not only.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Screwing the principle that you know, just the person who
waited on you, but everybody else too, who maybe didn't
have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So I guess, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm not of the mindset that we you know, like
we've talked about on tipping before, like oh, everyone should
tip thirty percent because people don't make enough. It's like, well,
that's I'm not disagreeing that people don't make enough. They
make way more than they did back when we were
waiting tables though, or you know, or era. But if
you do a bad job, why do I still have
to tip you like you did a good job. That's
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the part I don't understand because a tip. I understand
some people believe that a tip is to compensate for
a poor wage. But my understanding about a tip is
that it was always the extra. It was were you
exceptional at your job? And if you were, you're going
to make a lot more money than if you weren't.
That I thought that was the point, because if every
server knows they're going to get twenty percent, even if
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they're not not in a mood, well, then why would
you bother to apply yourself right exactly?
Speaker 12 (27:35):
And that's how I feel tipping works. And you know,
sometimes I've gotten less than great service, and I'll still
do maybe a twenty percent tip, whether than the twenty
five percent or whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You would give.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
But in this case, you didn't even bring my wife's
food to the table. I had to get up and
come find you. You weren't pleasant from the start, there's
no reason that I would tip above and so as
the father in law, like as Rufio said one in
one sound, I said, we're not sicking. I'm paying for
this meal. Don't leave, except even if you decide. So
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you took it a step further and text my wife
about me when we were just together.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You could have text me.
Speaker 12 (28:13):
I just think Eric is right, and I just I
feel like the father in law is so wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
My brother in law was in the service industry. He overtips.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
He's a big he's like a fifty percent tit like
he thinks it's because he was in the industry, that
it's karma or whatever, but like it's it's a it's
a significant like thirty five forty percent.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Minimum, like he tips a lot and whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And I've he's already gotten the wrath of this story,
like ten years ago or however long ago it was,
so it's not a big deal now. But I can
tell the story. But I think I paid for something.
I paid for a lunch and I tipped twenty four
percent and he looked at it on the way out.
I barely knew the guy at this point. And then
put forty dollars on top of that yo, and we
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left it has rue and my mom was like looked
at me and looked at him, and then later was like,
that was super rude, dude, Like you gave an appropriate tip,
Like it made it look like you weren't generous enough
because he wants to tip right fifty sixty percent, which
is his business, right, Like that's for him to do.
But at the time, I was like kind of bent
about it because I'm like, hey, what are you saying
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about me? Like I I tipped, well, it was a
good tip, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't
but I didn't tip double the price, you know what
I mean? So I think, you know, I think when
it comes to like, you make it. If you're paying
the bill and you make the decision, then everybody at
the table kind of has to go with it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Right.
Speaker 12 (29:31):
Well, in one sense you want to say that, but
as the waitress, if I did a great job and
you feel compelled to bless me with a little extra,
I think it's okay.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But in Colin's standpoint, he should have said that.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
To you, like, hey, bro, I see you got left
a great tip, but I just want to help them
a little bit more because I used to be a
server and then you explained it. But to not say
anything to you and just put extra money down as
if you're a broke boy.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's very rude.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, because it does.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
To my point, it does kind of make it seem
like you are like you've made a decision, this was
a bad experience, and here's and I'm paying the bills,
so I get to make the choice about the tip.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
If you want to make the choice about the tip,
then you pick up the whole tap yes, and then
you can tip whatever you want and we don't have
a problem. Hey Kim, good morning, Hi, good morning, Hey Kim,
Welcome to Kiki's court. So bad service and Dode didn't tip,
and then father in law decides, no, I'm going to
go over the top and tip more, and now there's
an inter family fight.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
What do you do?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
No, no, no, no, I would I would not tip.
That's the whole purpose of and I've been in the
industry many, many years. The whole purpose we are working
for is for the tips. If we're not doing our job,
I mean, what are we being paid for. I mean,
I don't understand why the father in law felt that
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he had to tip for a really bad service, especially
when his own daughter didn't even get her food.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, I mean, Kim, people get so mad at us
when we talk about tipping on here because and I realize,
we're talking about what people deserve and don't deserve, and
that's a strange conversation to have. But what I it
blows me away is that when people get upset about
us saying that tips are merit based, I think we
all agree on that in this room. I think what
is confusing to me is that if you're a great server,
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then you're going to be incentivized by that philosophy. Just
do a great job, right And by the way, there
are always going to be people who are a holes
and you're going to do a great job and they're
not going to acknowledge it. That happens in every industry
all the time. That's nothing new. But in general, I
would think if you're somebody who takes pride in what
you're doing, that you would agree with the fact that
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tips should be merit based, because if you do a
really great job, then I'm going to pay you more.
If you don't do a very good job, I'm going
to give you less but not below the standard. I
just think it's like, how could anybody argue against that, really,
because I guess there's enough people out there who have
been burnt by the person who didn't tip for good service, right,
I guess.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
But anyway, Kim, then, also on those checks, you know,
when there's a service charge for a large party, the
service charge is most likely for the backstaff because a
lot of times there will be a tip share for
the backstaff. And that's because of the big parties. There's
a lot to do and to coordinate it all, so
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everything comes out at once. The gratuity is when it's
added on automatically. That is the server's tip, and you
can always add more if they went above and beyond
the twenty percent or eighteen percent that the restaurant automatically added.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
There you go. Thank you, Kim, thanks for listening. Have
a great day.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
I have a great day.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Love the show.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, thank you so much. I love your show too.
I think I would. I would probably I would ask.
First of all, I would be asking questions, right, I
would say, look at the bill and say, okay, what
I've done this before, Like you know, a room service,
some hotels, you get room service and clude the gratuity.
Some don't, but there'll still be a tip line there.
So I'll be like, hey, dude, are you getting this number?
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You know what I mean? Like it says service charge?
Is that for you? And if he's like, I get
all that okay, well then that's I'm basically what I'm
doing off of that. If he says no, the hotel
gets that, then I then I'm gonna tip him. But
I'm gonna ask these questions ahead of time. But the real,
the real conversation here is not really about that. It's
about whether the father in law should be usurping his
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son in law's decision based on bad service. And I
come back to the payer of the bill gets to
decide on the tip. That's right, right otherwise like you're
you're free loading, like you're not even paying, So what
do you care?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right? You did?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You thought you did your big one? Would you twenty
dollar tip?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But I paid?
Speaker 9 (33:41):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But I paid one hundred summi dollars for the.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Thing, right, and I didn't even get my lemonade? Rightmonade,
no food.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'll just go home make my own limited When a picture.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
Would it's you got a table full of kid it's
like self check out. You want me to go and
ring up the toilet paper. You want me to put
it in the bag, take a receipt. I work for
you at this point, right.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
I've also seen that two when I'm not calling out,
like there are some servers when they know there's a
party of six or more, they know they're getting something
guaranteed already, so they they become less whatever lazier because
they know they're getting a tip no matter what they do.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
See that's what I don't love that because again, but
the problem is there's two problems. One you've got the
people who take advantage, like Rufio's talking about, like, well
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a tip no matter
what I do, so I don't have to try that hard.
And then you've got the people that don't reward the
service that's exceptional. So the problem is you meet in
the middle with everyone's kind of disgruntle. Yes, you know
what I mean, Because it's like, again, if if I
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come in here and I do a better job, if
I tried my hardest every single day, and the company
is like great, here's a little extra because you did
such a good job today. Well, then I'm then that
incentivizes me, you know, I mean, like it's hard to
it's hard to sort of compare the two things. But
I don't know why anybody would would disagree with that,
you know what I mean, Like, I work harder, I
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make more money. That's great, but everyone has to agree
to follow that, And I think, you know, a lot
of people are cheap and rude. Hey Natalie, Hey, Hi,
what did you want to say on Kikey's cord?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, I agree with Eric.
Speaker 13 (35:21):
I agree with Kei Ki. Everything opposite of what the
father in law did. And there's a lot to unpack here.
So I'm gona try to just wrap it up real quick, Ruefield,
you said everything I was just getting.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Ready to say.
Speaker 13 (35:31):
So, like when the bertility is added onto the bill,
then it doesn't and it doesn't inspire the waitress the
waiter to do their job that much more because they're
guaranteed that money.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So why should I work hard for it?
Speaker 13 (35:43):
I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
That's one number two.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
As far as the father in law me personally, I'm petty.
I would have went back to the table snatched kip
off the table because there's no reason until you will
leave that money on that table. That's not your responsibility.
And I get the old school our you know, the
culture back then is different. You know they want to
do those things.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That's what they were trying to do.
Speaker 13 (36:04):
But I got to look at the service. If I
didn't get a meal, or if I have to do
my own whatever at the table and I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Your job, you don't get that money.
Speaker 13 (36:13):
As a matter of fact, I should bill you and
take some money off of my my food bill because
I feel like I'm doing all of the work. It's
not even just doing the work, but the attitude makes
a difference to now you could be.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Doing all of the work. You could have brought all.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The meals down and everything.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
But if your attitude makes me uncomfortable in a place
where I should be comfortable, that automatically cancels everything.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
And I'm complaining it is take that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Thank you have a good because I'm asking for more biscuits.
You know what I'm saying. Well at limited, if I
asked for more, please bring me some more. Julisa is it?
Lisa High?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Hey, good morning, Kiki's court. What say you?
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I say, was the father in law even sitting at
the table with them, because if my daughter didn't get
a meal, we would have some problems.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Like she should reply back to.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
Herself saying, excuse me, were you not there when I
didn't get my food while you were eating your salad
and your steak and I'm taking the baby's fries because
I'm still.
Speaker 13 (37:25):
Not would have got a tip?
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And I just heard Natalie talk about how she should
have tooken something I got.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
How I feel about those self checkouts?
Speaker 13 (37:31):
You guys got all these self checkouts.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
I'm gonna get me a discount.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm a discount of something.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
I'm bagging my own bag.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, yeah, I got to check my own self out.
I should get an employee discount. That is brilliant. I've
never heard that said that way.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
I mean, that's my biggest concern here.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Rather dad gave a tip.
Speaker 9 (37:54):
But whose side are you on?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
The waitresses?
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Are your daughters?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
It doesn't sound like she was even with the rest
of the table.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I kind of wonder how much this father in law
respects the son in law at all, because that's kind
of an emasculating move too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
It's kind of like, oh, really, take his money and
let him pay for dinner.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, but oh I don't like your tip. It's like, okay,
well here's the bill, then you handle it. Oh no, no, no,
you didn't offer to do that. You didn't offer to
do that. Thank you, Alisa, have a good day too.
She wants an employee discount.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I like the way she thinks.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I here for that discount. It is Shelley the Entertainment
Report in two minutes,
Fred Show. This is what's Monday?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Monday, so it I mean, it could be
Wednesday in my brain. Who knows it's Monday. It's that
kind of thing anyway, Sorry if I confused anyone. No
one else said anything, So either no one else is listening,
including everybody in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm not sure, but Paulina, Yeah, it's your favorite week
of the year, your favorite what does that version of it?
I didn't want that. I didn't want this this. I
want your favorite week of the year.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
The DNA, The d n C is coming to Chicago.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're right, it certainly is already.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I know they are.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, what are you most looking forward to about the
d n C this week?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I like to hear Joe Jonas's political stance, to see
where he stands, who he's endorsing.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, yeah, well, I'm assuming you'd be speaking at the
d n C.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Already.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think we're straight on that pretty sure, Jadie Vance.
But I mean, I don't know, it could be that
would be really shocking. Joe Biden, our president from our
first lady, Joe Biden and then former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson all speaking tonight
at the d n C.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Not Dog because he's at the d n C.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
N C.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah, Jason's morning was like, no, baby, it's.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
D n C.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So just just the d n C for a whole
week would be probably more entertaining. But but I'm not
sure the d n C. Is it all week or
is it just the first part of Thursday? Okay, and
if you live in Chicago, we were just talking off
theory about this, but like, I mean, they've basically put
a big cage over part most of the two parts
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of the city, just a gigantic like bird cage over
the top of several buildings and don't even try and
get close, and like big concrete barricades and this serious business.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We got really important people in town this week, so
let's make it as inconvenient as possible for the people
who live down there.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That was not the week to do something crazy like
oh well, how about ever doing anything?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, how about no crime at all?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I like that idea.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We have a company, yeah, right right now, it's not
the time, Okay, it's the d n C.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
This is just I just got weird stories this morning.
But in what's trending? Drinking and this is terrible news.
But for those of us, I have a gigantic cup
of coffee right here next to me, Duncan coffee. Drinking
four more cups of coffee a day can raise the
risk of a heart attack or stroke. So research has
found that consuming over four hundred milligrams of caffeine. Can
someone look up how many cups or like, I'm trying
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to figure out four hundred milligrams? Like, how many is this?
Four hundred milligrams? This has gotta be. This has got
to be at least two cups of coffee.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
What coups is four hundred millilter?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh MiGs, my bad milligrams as we were looking for
basically rude coffee. Oh okay, but I don't know, so
I'm probably drinking that. But four hundred milligrams of caffeine
on most days of the week could increase the susceptibility
of otherwise healthy people to cardiovascular disease. Chronic caffeine consumption, Hello,
most all of us up this early was shown to
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significantly impact them nervous system, raising heart rate and blood
pressure over time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yes, yeah, you have an extra large coffee. I do.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's thirty and thirty milligrams. Goodbye caffeine. Yeah, that's nice tom.
Oh and this is just an appetizer. I'm just warming
up right here. Oh yeah, is warming up all day?
You don't drink coffee?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yes? I always have my little ice coffee right here.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How many of those do you drink a day, Kiki?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
One?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's probably not four hundred millions, not for all lice.
Coffee is one hundred and ninety eight milligle chest.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's close for me.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, Shelley's the one that eats like wheat, grass and uh,
you know, sticks and stuff. Any caffeine for you.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I'll sometimes have a cup of coffee on the weekend.
But I you know, I did morning radio for all
those years. I never drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
See that's what I was about to say, like heart attack,
stroke or walking around like a zombie your whole life?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Like, what would you prefer for me?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I picked the latter.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, really not, rather not. I don't. I can't.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I can't watch around like a zombie for years.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think a slam Well saying, but I don't know
what kind of zombie i'd be without the coffee, though,
I mean, it's gotta be something. So what do you
do for a pick me up?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Anything?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Not really, no, I mean I'm trying to think, like
my thing is, you know, like if I like splurge,
it's like on a gluten free jonnut.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Or something like that. Like that would be my little.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Spirit because I was always told that it was what
you put in the coffee that was going to hurt you,
not necessarily the coffee itself. And now you're saying that
the caffeine is you know, it could cause high blood pressure,
hypertension associated with the increased risk of coronary artery disease,
heart fail. Okay, it's all bad stuff. As I take
a sip in my coffee. Georgia Man is suing an
(04:57):
Atlanta hospital. This was everywhere last night, by the way,
after staff allegedly lost a nearly twenty eight square inch
piece of his skull and then build him for the
replacement when they couldn't find it. So I guess they
were doing a procedure. They took part of his skull
out to do it, lost it. They lost his head,
(05:17):
and they're like, I don't know, so they put something
else in there. Like patched it up and then they
sent him a bill for them. So, this dude's name
is Fernando. He checked into Emory Hospital in September for
a hemorrhage in his brain a brain bleed. Doctors determined
a four point seven by six inch piece of his
skull had to be removed to reduce pressure, but after
returning to the hospital two months later to have the
(05:38):
piece of skull replaced, the hospital couldn't find it. Ooh
so sorry about that. So's a hole in his head
and nothing to fill with it. He had a large
depression of the right side of his school and the
surgery was canceled. The hospital had to find a synthetic
piece of skull and then they build him nineteen thousand
dollars for that what so Yeah, anyway, he's not happy
(06:00):
and he's suing one hundred and forty six thousand dollars.
They lost part of his head and I went the
hospital to pay him back for that. I think so too.
Another health story. I don't know what's up with the
health stories today, but a Florida doctor is facing disciplinary
action after he performed a colonoscopy on a patient without
his hearing aid so I guess. During the procedure, the
doctor started inserting the scope before the patient was fully sedated.
(06:22):
The patient started screaming in pain, but the doctor couldn't
hear him because he didn't have his hearing aid in.
He kept doing this despite the screams until somebody else
walked in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Now he's being fine. Oh my god, I mean, don't
you still see that?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You still see that?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I don't know. And I thought it was kind
of a narrow thing that they stuck up there. I
didn't think it was a big thing that they used
for that.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I'm not sure. I never had one to make an
appointment today.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
In fact, I even think you had to be sedated
for it. I thought you, I mean, most people are,
but I thought you could be awake for that, right.
I don't know what I'm talking about, but that sounds terrible.
And I do have that nightmare that I would have
surgery someday I would be like that one percent of
people that were conscious but couldn't communicate, which is I mean,
how many different things can I put in your head
this early on a Wednesday. It's Monday, Monday. I'm just
(07:21):
this wishful thing. I wish it were Wednesday. A former
NFL player I'm sure I'm not saying this guy's name right,
Gosder Cheriless, Cheeriless. He was arrested for allegedly causing a
disturbance and disorderly conduct on a flight. So a Delta
flight was destined for Dublin and had to be rerouted
to Boston. The former first round pick urinated on another passenger,
(07:46):
causing the air crew to request state police assistance, and
then they went back to another airport. I don't even
know where this is. He was a Tampa Bay buccaneer
and detroit lyon. Okay, yeah, so they went back. They
arrested this guy. He was uncooperative and initially refused to
I guess to work with them, forcing troopers to escort
him off the plane and arrest him. He's scheduled to
(08:06):
be arraigned today in Boston. The other passengers to board
the cancel flight were rebooked onto a new flight on Saturday.
I don't know how messed up you got to be
to start peeing on people right right, like just right
out there and open. I don't know, And do you
want to know where the cities are with the rudest residence.
What would you think is number one? Yep, number one,
(08:26):
New York number one. I touch one thousand people about
the rudest people. Each person survey and answered twenty five
questions related to where they live, which areas of the
US they preferred, and what they believe made a city
or state desirable.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
New York is the rudest.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Washington and Chicago at three, which surprises me because there
are ruder places I think than Chicago, Los Angeles, Buffalo,
San Francisco, Boston, Baltimore, Detroit, and Philadelphia running out the
top ten rudest places.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wow, yeah, you're right with that. That really that hits you.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yes, I've lived in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
If are ruder, I would think of the three major
big cities, I would say, in order of rudeness, it
would go New York, La, Chicago, And I would think
there are places that come before Chicago and rudeness.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Can we get that Midwest hospitality.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Right with the nicest people on the planet.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We know about that, but I think so yeah, yeah,
I mean I don't think. I don't think we're even
close to New York though, so oh god, no, in Philadelphia,
I mean not the nicest folks. I mean no, just
so it's sports alone, right and they're not even the
number ten.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No, I don't. This is a messed up list.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's National Soft ice Cream Day, not soft serve soft
ice cream Day, okay, and National Aviation Day today as
well Showbiz in for Kail and the entertainment reports. Next,
what are you working on?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Uh so there's actually you know, the news cycle moves
very quickly. I have an update from a story to
the last hour, so I'll tell you about that. In
terms of Dakota Johnson, we have an updates.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Room in the newsroom on the Plus. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, nice job, Shelly. This is great. We're gonna be
okay all week. Two minutes away. I've ever been left
waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Sadie,
good morning, welcome to the program. How are you hey?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm good, all right, So a little perplexed, right right exactly.
We're trying to figure out that's honest. By the way,
over and over I keep saying it. People are like,
I'm so good. I'm like, how are you so good?
You got ghosted by somebody. Somebody on the earth is
trying to avoid you. With all their might, or at
least that's what we think. But Sadie, you're perplexed about
this guy Eric. We got to know everything. How did
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you meet Eric? Tell us about any dates that you've
been on, and then what's happening now?
Speaker 8 (10:44):
I met Eric on Hinge and we.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Hit it off.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
We were chatting for a good while before we finally
met up for drinks. I had a great first date.
I felt like it was real, sparky and fun, and
I was really excited to see him again. Made plans
that same night to meet up again. I had a
second date. I had a second date, got dinner. It
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was a great time, and I was really excited to
keep this going. And I never heard from him again.
And I don't quite understand what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, so this isn't even a this isn't a one
date ghost. This is a two date ghost situation, which
is kind of you know, that's a little worse, right,
because the person obviously liked you enough to go on
a second day with you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So what happened? What happened to stop that momentum? Right?
Speaker 8 (11:32):
And we were even talking about what we were going
to do next, Like it was kind of assumed we
were going to see each other again. So yeah, I
don't know. I don't know what happened. I'd like to
find out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, so let's play a song. We'll come back in
like two minutes, and we're gonna call this guy Eric.
He'll be on the phone as always. We'll ask some
questions on your behalf. At some point you're welcome to
jumping on the call, and you know, the hope is
that we can straighten this out, set you guys up
on a third date in this case that we paid for.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So good eight, let's see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Parts to you of waiting at the phone after David
got in two minutes, do move. It's the Fred Show,
winter Bucks with show vis Shelley in the showdown new player.
If you can beat her in five questions, you start
Monday with a big grip of cash. Hey, Sadie, Yes,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Eric. This is the
guy you went out with a couple of times. You
thought the dates went great. You're trying to figure out
(12:22):
why this guy's not calling you after two days that
you thought were successful.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Yeah, I want to see him again. You feel weird?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, let's see what's going on. Good luck, Sadie, Thank you? Hellhisus?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Eric?
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Oh yeah, this is Eric.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Hey Eric, good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm calling for the Fred Show, a morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Can which after just
a second on the air. Do you mind you can
hang up anytime?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (12:55):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, thank you so much. I look at this guy.
He seems almost excited. Right, we'll see if you're excited
in about thirty seconds. But we're calling on behalf of
a woman who reached out. It was her name is Sadie.
You went out with her twice on dates. You remember Sadie?
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah, I remember Sadie.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, So what happened because she called us and told
us that, you know, she'd met you and liked you,
and he went out a couple of times, two dates
it was, and you were planning a third date and
then you go missing, and she feels like she's being
ghosted by you, and she wants to know why.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
I mean, I guess it's fair that I wonder why
she why ghosted? I mean, so I mean I thought
it was going great. After the second date, right as
I was leaving, she gave me a present which I
didn't open until I got home. So I opened this
present and it's like a collection of harrow loss products.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Wait, this is on the second days they did this.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, it's like a goodie bag of like rogaine and
whatever else you used to do.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
Your own hair, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now is it like she works for these people or
something and she had the stuff us? Either way, what
she's saying to you is you need to grow some
hair somewhere.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
I mean, yeah, I don't. I mean, she doesn't work
for hair loss company. I mean it came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
She just felt like an insult.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That didn't a deal.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I mean, who worked for Sharpie and she brought me
one color of every Sharpie that was ever? Yeah, she did.
This is a long time ago, and I was very
excited about it. Was a very nice saying that she
did for me. So maybe if I'm saying, you know,
if she worked for a dermatologist and she brought you skincare,
she worked for a dentist and she brought you a toothbrush,
like that's a very nice thing. But this is very personal.
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This is this is regardless of her, regardless of the background.
What she's saying to you, Eric is you're a bald
and I want you to have hair. That's what she's
saying to you.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
I mean, I mean, what if I just like gave
her like some teeth whitener or something or like, you know,
I don't know. I mean, that's just yeah, it was a.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Gift car for invisil line or something like.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Oh was a bad vibe.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Man, definitely in the date killer that would offend me
to let me bring Sadie in. Eric, I forgot to
mention that Sadie's here. I'm very very full. Yeah, my
bad Sadie Rogaine.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Why.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, obviously you're trying to send a message. I
know you are trying to be kind, but I mean
that's a very personal thing for a lot of people,
and insecurity.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Is that all?
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I am surprised. I thought that I broably started using
this stuff and he liked it, and I thought Eric
would like it as well.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Maybe Eric's okay with the weird Maybe Eric doesn't think
he needs more here. Maybe Eric is maybe he's already
doing this to be self conscious about it. I mean,
if I were going out with a girl and she
brought me some blue shoe, you know, that stuff that's
supposed to make you like, you know, oh you got
to have blue chor she brought me some of that
Spanish what do I call that? Yeah, you bring me
some Spanish fly over to the house. After a couple
of dates. I'm like, Okay, so what you're saying is
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my machinery's not you know, properly calibrated, and that would
I would probably make me insecure, Sadie.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You got to think I wasn't trying to insult him.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
He's really self deprecating about that. Like after our first date,
and so I just learned about the stuff that my
brother's been using, and he loved it. And I was like, oh,
well this is the thing that like he has an
issue with that he's bringing up. Then sure, here you go.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wasn't even got on you got it.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You have to turn the tables here when it comes
to when it comes to bodily stuff and aesthetics and
all of that. I mean said he what if he
brought you some sort of like a deodorant spray, you know.
I mean you you'd be modified.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Exactly, exactly exactly, like know, just as somebody admit after
kiss him. I mean, like what, okay, you know.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
Wants to look their best and men are like really
insecure about that, right, Yeah, a lot of guys super
insecure about losing their hair and you know how it looks.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
I mean, I'm not saying I'm all about insecure. I
just thought it was a bad move.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Excuse what I'm looking forward.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
He was just offended, he was offended or he thought
it was a weird gift or whatever your king, Sadie.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt,
I really do. I want to say that you were
being thoughtful, but you also have to know, like you've
got to turn the tables and know that when it
comes to people's appearance and and sort of related topics
like that, that requires a level of comfort and experience
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with that person to know that you're not going to
hurt their feelings. And it sounds to me like, whether
he's willing to amit it or not, you hurt his feelings.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I mean I can see that now. And maybe that
was a third date move, not a second right, But that's.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
A third day Kiki, that's a third day move.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You're never going to get a man like this.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You bring the toothless girl toothbrush on the third date.
You know you certainly don't do that on the never
on the first ever ever third date.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I mean, I mean to me, to me, that's like,
that's like conversation down the line. I mean, slide in
the conversation that your brother's taking it and then let
me suggest I'm interested. I mean, you know, just a
block footed move, man, I mean, not dating material. Like
what am I going to say?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean I hate, I hate to argue, to make
an argument by turning the tables like I tend to.
I don't know, but in this case, I think that's
what you got to do. He's turn the tables and say, Sadie,
how would you feel if he did that to you?
What if he brought you the exact same product? What
is he saying to you? He's saying you need more hair?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, you know, I mean.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
Maybe it's so far.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
I'm sorry, I hope it doesn't ruin any chance.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What if he brought you and so you think he
needs hair? What if he brought you razors in their
because he thinks you need less hair. That probably wouldn't
go over well, would it.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
I could see that, I could see that I could be
an issue.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Okay, Eric, So she meant well, but in this case,
she didn't read the room. I mean, can we give
her another chance? Or are we just moving on?
Speaker 9 (19:03):
You know what, there's a lot of fish in the sea,
and that's just a I don't know, it's not a
little trust that judgment, you know what I mean. I'm
looking for something serious and I don't know that that's
a disqualifier. Sorry about that, but that's just how.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is, all right, Sadie.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Look, I honestly believe that you probably had good intentions,
but let's just not let's not we're not with the
uh sort of bodily related products early on in a relationship.
I just think there's more room for that to go
poorly than there is for it to you know what
I mean, Yes, Rufio, are.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You going to use the product?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You don't need it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm gonna say, what do you need?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Hair?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What hair growth product? He's going to use it?
Speaker 9 (19:43):
I'm not going I mean, I'm just gonna go shave
heads at some point soon, but I mean whatever, Yeah,
I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm not trying to put he's not going to combat it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You know, he's our it's it's strange for Okay, it's
not going to work out, Sadie. I'm sorry, Eric, thank
you for answering and all the best both of you.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
You I do say the best. I mean, ultimately we're
on the same the same pool here, and you know,
sure she'll find somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, the positivity there, you know you're There's Eric saying, Sadie,
I hope you find a hairy guy soon.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
It's a nice ball hitting man, almost boll hitting many.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh lord, good luck, guys, thank you, thank you the
entertainment of for And she'll be Shelly with seven hundred's
actually Shelley with both.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Next Fred Show.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
A fresh show. It's Kiky's Court night, Key Key taking
away the honorable kik Aleik. Everyone all right, okay, suit
you ask this down, go ahead.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Sit down, let's get in this court room at that
gabble now it says, hey, ke Key, my name is Eric.
I'm a longtime Fred Show listener, and I know how
much you guys love to discuss tipping all.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Right, guilty, Eric, No, he loves the Fred will. Eric's right,
and so Eric's perfect. And let's see what's next. Well,
let's play well, Eric says.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
On Friday, I took my wife, kids, and my in
laws out to dinner downtown. We were seated after about
a twenty minute way, and from the moment that our
waitress approached the table, I knew we were in for
a ride. Her attitude was not friendly at all, and
she kept disappearing for long periods of time, and when
I asked for refiels for my kids, she seemed annoyed
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and brought out a picture of lemonade for us to
pour ourselves. Then the worst part was that she forgot
to bring out my wife's food all together. When I
finally got up to look for her, she was sitting
at the bar laughing with her coworkers. So you can
imagine my frustration. When we finished our dinner and when
the bill came, I announced, out of frustration to my
family that she would not receive a tip. They already
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include the service charge, and after the way we were treated,
I feel like that was more than enough. Well, when
we got up to leave, my father in law took
out cash from his wallet and left it on the table.
I was already annoyed, so I just walked out to
get in the car. But what really pissed me off
is that my father in law sent my wife a
nasty text message saying how disappointed he was that I
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did not tip.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I really want to confront him. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Hold on, I have a question before you give your verdict.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, how many people at the table?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So it was him, his two kids, and it's in laws,
so six.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So then the service charge would have been the tip.
Because what happens is with a lot of places, if
it's a party of six or more, then the gratuity
is just put onto the bill. They just put a
twenty percent gratuity on the bill.
Speaker 12 (22:39):
But see, some people say there's a difference between gratuity
and a service charge.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
The service charge goes to the restaurant, and right.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
The service charges because the restaurant doesn't want to pay
their employement dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, I thought, maybe maybe I'm using the wrong terms,
because I thought that it's a lot of menus will
say and maybe they use the word gratuity and that
service shape a lot of menus will say a twenty
percent cre tuity will be included on all parties of
six or more. I guess just to solve any sort
of you know whatever, like this is going to be
a lot of work, so the tip's paid for. So
I guess the way that I'm interpreting this is that
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the tip was already paid. It's just put on the bill.
And so if there's already twenty percent on the bill,
then you, in my opinion, you're going to have to
do something really wild for me to go over the
top of that. That's already a good tip. Now, if
you were really great, then I might tip more. But
if a twenty percent tip is included, and I was
going to tip twenty percent anyway, why am I tipping more? Well,
she's saying it was bad service, so on top of that,
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she got a twenty percent tip for not great service anyway, supposedly, I.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Don't think that was a tip. We just I got
a text from our residence server, Bella, and she said
the service charge is for the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But I might be okay, wow, wait a minute, so
then why okay? Well that I'm wondering if maybe they
got I don't know because.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Because every patron gets the service charge.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
You know, like, no matter what it is, it's a
service charge that goes to the restaurant because whatever to
pay this and that it's not the gratuity part that
goes to the employee pay for everything else.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Right, they say that the service charge goes to you know,
the waiter gets a portion, the dishwasher gets a portion.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, So.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
He Eric did not tip at all on top of
that because he felt like he did not get good service,
and his father in law decided to leave a tip anyway,
And then not only that, he sent a text to
his wife and was like, upset that your husband didn't
leave a tip. Okay, And I know you know we
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all tip, we all try to go above and beyond,
but in this case, I'm not giving her a tip either.
We cannot keep a rewarding bad behavior. I'm sorry you
were a horrible waitious today.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You did not do your best job.
Speaker 12 (24:48):
So why would I on top of a service charge
which maybe a little portion may go to you, But
why would I tip above that when you have given
me horrible service? I understand the father in law may
have felt differently, and he's entitled to do whatever he wants.
So I would not have been upset if my father
in law took out money out here.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's on you.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
If that's what you want to do, do your thing.
I'm not leaving a penny. But then to text my wife,
you know, to text my wife that you're so disappointed. Boy,
I mean, God, have some have some cahunas.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Like that to me?
Speaker 12 (25:18):
We were just together at the dinner table. If you
felt disappointed to tell me, don't text my wife sorry
because he brought the wife into it. Yeah, I'm with you, Eric,
I don't think he's wrong.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
I would be upset from the start after I announced
the table, like I ain't tipping nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
This was horrible. We didn't have a good time. It
was bad. I would be upset when the father.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
In law was like, I'm gonna leave something behind Anyone'm
like I told you we ain't tipping, Like we gotta
be on the same pain.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Forget the text message from the start. If you take
out money when I already said we ain't tipping, we
got a problem.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
What issould we have here is that the Texas seems
to be like some people believe that in a party
in a certain sized party that a service charge represents
that policy, the policy that if it's sicks more than
the tip is included. Other people say that it's not.
So my first thing would have been, Okay, hey, what
is this for? You know, I would have asked the question,
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like is this a tip? Because if there's a twenty
percent tip built in and the service sucked, then you're
lucky you got your twenty percent. I'm not giving you
anything more, right, But what I would say about bad
service is I would probably steal tip, but then I
just wouldn't go back. Oh you know what I mean,
Because it's like, by not tipping, you're also screwing the
(26:28):
bar backs and the bartenders and the cook I don't
know if the cooks get tipped out, but you know,
the bus boys and girls or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So like you're not only.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Screwing the principle that you know, just the person who
waited on you, but everybody else too, who maybe didn't
have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So I guess, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm not of the mindset that we you know, like
we've talked about on tipping before, like oh, everyone should
tip thirty percent because people don't make enough. It's like, well,
that's I'm not disagreeing that people don't make enough. They
make way more than they did back when we were
waiting tables though, or you know, or era. But if
you do a bad job, why do I still have
to tip you like you did a good job. That's
(27:06):
the part I don't understand because a tip. I understand
some people believe that a tip is to compensate for
a poor wage. But my understanding about a tip is
that it was always the extra. It was were you
exceptional at your job? And if you were, you're going
to make a lot more money than if you weren't.
That I thought that was the point, because if every
server knows they're going to get twenty percent, even if
(27:29):
they're not not in a mood, well, then why would
you bother to apply yourself right exactly?
Speaker 12 (27:35):
And that's how I feel tipping works. And you know,
sometimes I've gotten less than great service, and I'll still
do maybe a twenty percent tip, whether than the twenty
five percent or whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You would give.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
But in this case, you didn't even bring my wife's
food to the table. I had to get up and
come find you. You weren't pleasant from the start, there's
no reason that I would tip above and so as
the father in law, like as Rufio said one in
one sound, I said, we're not sicking. I'm paying for
this meal. Don't leave, except even if you decide. So
(28:06):
you took it a step further and text my wife
about me when we were just together.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You could have text me.
Speaker 12 (28:13):
I just think Eric is right, and I just I
feel like the father in law is so wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
My brother in law was in the service industry. He overtips.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
He's a big he's like a fifty percent tit like
he thinks it's because he was in the industry, that
it's karma or whatever, but like it's it's a it's
a significant like thirty five forty percent.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Minimum, like he tips a lot and whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And I've he's already gotten the wrath of this story,
like ten years ago or however long ago it was,
so it's not a big deal now. But I can
tell the story. But I think I paid for something.
I paid for a lunch and I tipped twenty four
percent and he looked at it on the way out.
I barely knew the guy at this point. And then
put forty dollars on top of that yo, and we
(28:54):
left it has rue and my mom was like looked
at me and looked at him, and then later was like,
that was super rude, dude, Like you gave an appropriate tip,
Like it made it look like you weren't generous enough
because he wants to tip right fifty sixty percent, which
is his business, right, Like that's for him to do.
But at the time, I was like kind of bent
about it because I'm like, hey, what are you saying
(29:15):
about me? Like I I tipped, well, it was a
good tip, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't
but I didn't tip double the price, you know what
I mean? So I think, you know, I think when
it comes to like, you make it. If you're paying
the bill and you make the decision, then everybody at
the table kind of has to go with it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Right.
Speaker 12 (29:31):
Well, in one sense you want to say that, but
as the waitress, if I did a great job and
you feel compelled to bless me with a little extra,
I think it's okay.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But in Colin's standpoint, he should have said that.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
To you, like, hey, bro, I see you got left
a great tip, but I just want to help them
a little bit more because I used to be a
server and then you explained it. But to not say
anything to you and just put extra money down as
if you're a broke boy.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's very rude.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, because it does.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
To my point, it does kind of make it seem
like you are like you've made a decision, this was
a bad experience, and here's and I'm paying the bills,
so I get to make the choice about the tip.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
If you want to make the choice about the tip,
then you pick up the whole tap yes, and then
you can tip whatever you want and we don't have
a problem. Hey Kim, good morning, Hi, good morning, Hey Kim,
Welcome to Kiki's court. So bad service and Dode didn't tip,
and then father in law decides, no, I'm going to
go over the top and tip more, and now there's
an inter family fight.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
What do you do?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
No, no, no, no, I would I would not tip.
That's the whole purpose of and I've been in the
industry many, many years. The whole purpose we are working
for is for the tips. If we're not doing our job,
I mean, what are we being paid for. I mean,
I don't understand why the father in law felt that
(30:49):
he had to tip for a really bad service, especially
when his own daughter didn't even get her food.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, I mean, Kim, people get so mad at us
when we talk about tipping on here because and I realize,
we're talking about what people deserve and don't deserve, and
that's a strange conversation to have. But what I it
blows me away is that when people get upset about
us saying that tips are merit based, I think we
all agree on that in this room. I think what
is confusing to me is that if you're a great server,
(31:18):
then you're going to be incentivized by that philosophy. Just
do a great job, right And by the way, there
are always going to be people who are a holes
and you're going to do a great job and they're
not going to acknowledge it. That happens in every industry
all the time. That's nothing new. But in general, I
would think if you're somebody who takes pride in what
you're doing, that you would agree with the fact that
(31:38):
tips should be merit based, because if you do a
really great job, then I'm going to pay you more.
If you don't do a very good job, I'm going
to give you less but not below the standard. I
just think it's like, how could anybody argue against that, really,
because I guess there's enough people out there who have
been burnt by the person who didn't tip for good service, right,
I guess.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
But anyway, Kim, then, also on those checks, you know,
when there's a service charge for a large party, the
service charge is most likely for the backstaff because a
lot of times there will be a tip share for
the backstaff. And that's because of the big parties. There's
a lot to do and to coordinate it all, so
(32:18):
everything comes out at once. The gratuity is when it's
added on automatically. That is the server's tip, and you
can always add more if they went above and beyond
the twenty percent or eighteen percent that the restaurant automatically added.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
There you go. Thank you, Kim, thanks for listening. Have
a great day.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
I have a great day.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Love the show.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, thank you so much. I love your show too.
I think I would. I would probably I would ask.
First of all, I would be asking questions, right, I
would say, look at the bill and say, okay, what
I've done this before, Like you know, a room service,
some hotels, you get room service and clude the gratuity.
Some don't, but there'll still be a tip line there.
So I'll be like, hey, dude, are you getting this number?
(33:02):
You know what I mean? Like it says service charge?
Is that for you? And if he's like, I get
all that okay, well then that's I'm basically what I'm
doing off of that. If he says no, the hotel
gets that, then I then I'm gonna tip him. But
I'm gonna ask these questions ahead of time. But the real,
the real conversation here is not really about that. It's
about whether the father in law should be usurping his
(33:24):
son in law's decision based on bad service. And I
come back to the payer of the bill gets to
decide on the tip. That's right, right otherwise like you're
you're free loading, like you're not even paying, So what
do you care?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right? You did?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You thought you did your big one? Would you twenty
dollar tip?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But I paid?
Speaker 9 (33:41):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But I paid one hundred summi dollars for the.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Thing, right, and I didn't even get my lemonade? Rightmonade,
no food.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'll just go home make my own limited When a picture.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
Would it's you got a table full of kid it's
like self check out. You want me to go and
ring up the toilet paper. You want me to put
it in the bag, take a receipt. I work for
you at this point, right.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
I've also seen that two when I'm not calling out,
like there are some servers when they know there's a
party of six or more, they know they're getting something
guaranteed already, so they they become less whatever lazier because
they know they're getting a tip no matter what they do.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
See that's what I don't love that because again, but
the problem is there's two problems. One you've got the
people who take advantage, like Rufio's talking about, like, well
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a tip no matter
what I do, so I don't have to try that hard.
And then you've got the people that don't reward the
service that's exceptional. So the problem is you meet in
the middle with everyone's kind of disgruntle. Yes, you know
what I mean, Because it's like, again, if if I
(34:47):
come in here and I do a better job, if
I tried my hardest every single day, and the company
is like great, here's a little extra because you did
such a good job today. Well, then I'm then that
incentivizes me, you know, I mean, like it's hard to
it's hard to sort of compare the two things. But
I don't know why anybody would would disagree with that,
you know what I mean, Like, I work harder, I
(35:07):
make more money. That's great, but everyone has to agree
to follow that, And I think, you know, a lot
of people are cheap and rude. Hey Natalie, Hey, Hi,
what did you want to say on Kikey's cord?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, I agree with Eric.
Speaker 13 (35:21):
I agree with Kei Ki. Everything opposite of what the
father in law did. And there's a lot to unpack here.
So I'm gona try to just wrap it up real quick, Ruefield,
you said everything I was just getting.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Ready to say.
Speaker 13 (35:31):
So, like when the bertility is added onto the bill,
then it doesn't and it doesn't inspire the waitress the
waiter to do their job that much more because they're
guaranteed that money.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So why should I work hard for it?
Speaker 13 (35:43):
I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
That's one number two.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
As far as the father in law me personally, I'm petty.
I would have went back to the table snatched kip
off the table because there's no reason until you will
leave that money on that table. That's not your responsibility.
And I get the old school our you know, the
culture back then is different. You know they want to
do those things.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That's what they were trying to do.
Speaker 13 (36:04):
But I got to look at the service. If I
didn't get a meal, or if I have to do
my own whatever at the table and I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Your job, you don't get that money.
Speaker 13 (36:13):
As a matter of fact, I should bill you and
take some money off of my my food bill because
I feel like I'm doing all of the work. It's
not even just doing the work, but the attitude makes
a difference to now you could be.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Doing all of the work. You could have brought all.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The meals down and everything.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
But if your attitude makes me uncomfortable in a place
where I should be comfortable, that automatically cancels everything.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
And I'm complaining it is take that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Thank you have a good because I'm asking for more biscuits.
You know what I'm saying. Well at limited, if I
asked for more, please bring me some more. Julisa is it?
Lisa High?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Hey, good morning, Kiki's court. What say you?
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I say, was the father in law even sitting at
the table with them, because if my daughter didn't get
a meal, we would have some problems.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Like she should reply back to.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
Herself saying, excuse me, were you not there when I
didn't get my food while you were eating your salad
and your steak and I'm taking the baby's fries because
I'm still.
Speaker 13 (37:25):
Not would have got a tip?
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And I just heard Natalie talk about how she should
have tooken something I got.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
How I feel about those self checkouts?
Speaker 13 (37:31):
You guys got all these self checkouts.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
I'm gonna get me a discount.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm a discount of something.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
I'm bagging my own bag.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, yeah, I got to check my own self out.
I should get an employee discount. That is brilliant. I've
never heard that said that way.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
I mean, that's my biggest concern here.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Rather dad gave a tip.
Speaker 9 (37:54):
But whose side are you on?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
The waitresses?
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Are your daughters?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
It doesn't sound like she was even with the rest
of the table.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I kind of wonder how much this father in law
respects the son in law at all, because that's kind
of an emasculating move too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
It's kind of like, oh, really, take his money and
let him pay for dinner.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, but oh I don't like your tip. It's like, okay,
well here's the bill, then you handle it. Oh no, no, no,
you didn't offer to do that. You didn't offer to
do that. Thank you, Alisa, have a good day too.
She wants an employee discount.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I like the way she thinks.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I here for that discount. It is Shelley the Entertainment
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